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The Fragrance Group chart for beginners

>You ask what fragrance I am wearing? You say you never felt this horny ?

>Of course i'll tell you, it's, Tempo

The Fragrance Flow chart for beginners

what is the best fragrance of all time and why is it creed aventus?

>>17742905
The new formulations are shit unfortunately

>>17742905
Based.

>>17742907
Nope. Read the forums, 2023 batch is really good.
Same discussion with Fahrenheit, recent batches are similar good compared to vintage.

>>17742905
t. anon who never smelled any perfume before the year 2000

>>17742925
If it's true, I'm ordering one this year

i know that >>17740637 misses the frag general in the subject line, but making a new thread at 200 replies is now really a bit too early

>>17742896
you downloaded a minature retard

>>17742934
OP was seething about my Mike Mentzer post. OP probably train with high volume, doesn't habe any results in gym for years:
https://youtube.com/shorts/T08VvovcIts?si=QebaS6XjO1vrHM2U
>inb4 OPs signature isn't GIT

>>17742934
OP was seething about my Mike Mentzer post. OP probably train with high volume, doesn't have any results in gym for years:
https://youtube.com/shorts/T08VvovcIts?si=QebaS6XjO1vrHM2U
>inb4 OPs signature isn't GIT

>>17742894
What are your favorite fragrances from non-masstige perfumers? I want to start branching out

>>17742965
shame most of these dont offer sample sets

sotd Tobacco Maniac

Recently I've been trying the tip from Roja Dove about moisturizing over the fragrance, as opposed to spraying on top of lotion and I'm fully convinced he's a genius
Even the most dogshit frags last in for 8+ hours with constant projection
All hail Roja

>>17742934
Op here, genuinely didn’t see that thread otherwise I wouldn’t have made this. Easier to find the frag threads when they’re actual photos of frags in the OP.

>>17742934
>doesn’t name the thread at all
>gets mad when someone else makes fragrance gen out of good faith
Hard to be mad at OP here when whoever made this last thread quite literally forgot to title it and used an ambiguous pic of water with barely visible fragrance lmfao

I got a lava bead bracelet recently and have been putting lemon essential oil on it

I fucking love the smell of lemons!!!!!

>>17743039
you also love taking dicks up your ass.

>>17743111
trips of truth

for me, it's this gay ass fragrance. never misses getting me compliments

>>17743238
this really is the gayest men’s frag ever made. I don’t get the appeal, it just smells like flowers.

>>17743240
did you actually try it? I really like it desu. but yeah, I think the bottle design and name doesn't help

>>17743238
theres some decent spice in there, not the worst frag

>>17743245
yeah I tested a decant of it. Just smells like fresh roses and flowers, I can see how women would like it but it’s just not for me.

Best Tom Ford fragrance?

Is it worth paying top dollar for private blend or do I just stick with Ombré Leather?

>>17743271
just stick with ombre leather EDP. Best frag for the price when it comes to TF. Costa Azzura is a close 2nd for me though, fantastic and you can get it at discounters for around 120$ for a 100ml

Lately I've been mixing Prada L'homme with any random frags for a fabric softener smell

>>17743271
tuscan leather is way better than edp but its also like 3 times as expensive i think

other good choices are noir de noir, noir anthracite, and if youre not a bitch - black violet

What's the niche/effay version of Tom Ford Ombre Leather Parfum? Looking particularly for something longer lasting and with more projection

>>17743371
Nothing, that’s what makes it a TF. Also the EDP is far superior, and projects way better than the parfum and the sillage is fantastic. Parfums are typically skin scents that don’t have great sillage because of the oil concentration, the trade off is they last much longer, typically.

>>17743375
eh, TT siene is better imho, and it's not even the highest quality you can go for

>>17743378
Siene smelled like TL, not ombre leather though. Two completely different DNA’s

>>17743403
fair enough, my bad
i haven't smelled ombre leather for a while but i remember it being pretty bare bones so i switched to tuscan

>>17743416
to each their own. I find ombre leather EDP to be the best leather frag on the market and it’s not even close.

new to frags
just finished a bottle of picture related
what's the higher-end version of this?

Thoughts on https://www.theperfumeshoppecanada.com/?

I'm passing by here in a few weeks and I want to get my nose on some breddy gud stuff I can't smell where I'm from. Any must-smells I can add to my list?

Ganymede - Marc Antoine Barrios
Red Tobacco - Mancera
Bengal Rouge and Anubis - Papillon Artisan
Tabac Tabou - Parfum d'Empire
L'homme aux Gants, Cuir Cavalier and Chypre Palatin - MDCI
Tony Iommi and Starlight - Xerjoff
Under my Skin and the Dark Side - Francesca Bianchi

Thanks

>>17743608
just buy stuff from fragrancebuy.ca

>>17743611
MDCI and Bianchi is actually in stock at the b&m store. Some of them are within $20-30 maplebux of fragrancebuy's prices.

>>17743590
Paco Rabanne Pour Homme is similar.
Maybe try Eucris Edp, Dior Jules or Esencia edt(the edp smells like Aventus).

Favorite Comme des Garcons fragrances?

>>17743633
CDG 2

>>17743628
i do really love PRPH, but i don't find them similar (maybe they are cousins, but certainly not brothers)

thanks for the recommendations

>>17743271
Noir Extreme

whats the edp equivalent for this.

>>17743608
>inb4 jerkoff
some frags from that store that i know and like:
Nasomatto Baraonda, Pardon, Duro
Etro Etra (pretty good clone of Le Feu d'Issey)
Lorenzo Villoresi Yerbamate
MDCI Invasion Barbare
Rosendo Mateu 5
Xerjoff Torino21

>>17743779
Cool Water ofc

>>17743038
i fucked up the thread, i will do better next time, sorry (´。＿。｀)
also, unfortunately the new OP is also visually and probably mentally impaired as well - 69 posters managed to find the previous thread just fine

>SOTD: Nasomatto Pardon
oud and chocolate with sandalwood (javanol, i guess), classy fall-winter frag but can be a good fit even for a moderately warm summer night-out, performance is very good (still very much there after 16 hours)
9/10

>>17743819
he is retarded indeed, all it takes is to ctrl+f 'frag', also>>17742896
> javanol, i guess
Yes, this is the only trick that Gaultieri knows and been playing it since Black Afghano.

I wear Jovan Musk to work and nobody can stop me.

captcha: VGVPPP

Any help finding a frag that smells like a masculine sierra mist or maybe sprite?

Just copped a bunch of samples, thoughts on below:

Tuscan Leather
Tobacco Vanille
CDG2 Man
Serge Lutens Ambre Sultan
Penhaligon's Juniper Sling
Penhaligon's The Inimitable
Margiela Jazz Club
Margiela By The Fireplace
Aventus
Green Irish Tweed
Silver Mountain Water

I'm ordering some decants from Ecuacion natural, any suggestions?
So far I have in mind:

-baraonda
-haxan by prissana

>>17744067
>Tuscan Leather
Like ombre leather but with a fruit note
>Tobacco Vanille
Boring, but good quality, smells just like tobacco and vanilla and nothing else
>Margiela Jazz Club
Pleasant boring smell that fades in a couple of hours
>Aventus
Great for the half an hour it lasts
>Silver Mountain Water
Boring and overtly sweet for the half an hour it lasts

>>17744069
Bogue MEM, Bogue MAI, Bortnikoff Musk Cologne, Beaufort London Fathom V, Prissana Ma Nishtana, Ormonde Jayne Evernia, Bianchi The Lover's Tale or The Black Knight

>>17744067
>Margiela Jazz Club
>Margiela By The Fireplace
please stop wasting your time on replica frags
the others are good choices if you are starting to get into niche frags

>>17744076
Is Creed longevity really that bad?

>>17744113
I smelt a couple of Margiela fragrances at the airport a few months ago and they were pretty nice.

>>17744124
Yes it is. Atrocious. I gave creed a lot of chances because some of their creations are really influential masterpieces, but Im always dissapointed by the performance.

The replica line has performance issues but it's nice and not that expensive. People like to bash on it for some reason, but some of their perfumes are pretty good. Whispers in the library is one of my go to safe scents.

>>17744110
Thanks anon, I'll check them out and see what gives me an itch.

Any opinions on them? Or why did you choose them?

>>17744124
>>17744172
imo Creed longevity is only bad considering their exorbitant prices
Maison Martin Margiela is a fake niche house selling mid but relatively expensive designer juice, maybe a good place for teenagers to start with "niche" frags

>>17744180
What makes it a "fake niche", what's a "true niche" in your opinion.

MMM fragrances are affordable fragrances that try something new while also being universally loved fragrances. You won't see civet or any other daring notes in their composition but they just work.

You can find 100 ml with relative ease for around 70-80 bucks. I don't know how you can bash the replica line and not shit on something like amouage

>>17744175
Because you should buy them.

>>17744231
Thanks , you made me disregard all your suggestions instantly

Is it just hype or is this a good fragrance? I heard a rumor that Jeremy Fragrance was paid by Salvatore to promote it on his channel

>>17744236
Ok your loss

>>17744281
For the record, even tho you sound like an idiot I ordered a decant of Prissana Ma Nishtana, because it looked interesting.

I'll report back

>>17744210
please refer to >>17742965, that's pretty close to my understanding of niche vs masstige/fake niche/designer
my main gripe with replica frags is that they are also incredibly generic and take no risks whatsoever (no, that is not a good thing)

>>17744468
>take no risks whatsoever (no, that is not a good thing)
Neither good or bad, not every fragrance from every house needs to be an statement.

>>17744475
that's true but making no statement at all just makes the house boring

>>17743271
Noir (the original one, not the mediocre Extreme flanker)
Tom Ford For Men
Black Orchid
Maybe Grey Vetiver

Ombre Leather is nice, but the Rasasi clone of Tuscan Leather is unironically better than it to my nose.

>>17743371
Guerlain Cuir Intense. I'm not a Guerlain fanboy, but that really is the best alternative in that style that I've tried which isn't just a clone of Tuscan.

>>17743371
Also, you might like Fahrenheit Parfum now that I think about it. It also has violet leaf, leather and a sweet base, it's less heavy on the leather though and has some nice boozy vanilla.

>>17744280
It's okay at best. I've skipped over it at the store and I only remember not being phased by it. Truly one of the fragrances of all time.

>>17743633
2 Man, Avignon

>>17743271
Beau de Jour is nice

>>17744037
Only thing I've smelled that has a sprite note is pdm sedley

>>17744037
Remarkable People by ELDO smells like Fanta if that's any help

>Tuscan Leather
>Like ombre leather but with a fruit note
this is exactly why I don’t trust a single person here who posts “reviews”. TL and ombre leather couldn’t smell any different from eachother, no where near the same DNA. You clearly haven’t tried it, there are plenty of things I haven’t tried as well - stop lying and steering anons in the wrong direction. Imagine if someone here tested ombre leather and liked it and then blind bought TL for 300$ because of your retarded lie? you’re defeating the purpose of this entire thread gen, stop being a fag and just try the frags before you give opinions.

>>17744613
I've tried both and they don't smell the same, but they do smell similar, especially in the opening. Tuscan Leather is more smoky and ashy, more "rough" and does have a sour raspberry note. Ombre Leather is more smooth and sweeter, has some cardamom and the leather drops off more quickly into an amber-heavy drydown.
Ombre Leather isn't a clone or anything, but it's clearly inspired by Tuscan, which popularised this style of linear, minimalistic leather-focused fragrance.

>>17744613
I have both you fucking retard. They are so fucking similar that they should be ashamed for asking the 3x price for Tuscan leather. Where ombre leather is flowery , Tuscan leather is denser and fruiter. I like both and they are different scents, but saying that "no where near the same DNA" is just acting like an idiot

>>17742894
What should I take on my beach trip
>Bois Imperial
>Ormonde Man
>Ganymede
>Sel Marin
>Molecule 01
And is it wrong to layer any of the others with M01?

>>17744651
Sel Marin would be the obvious choice with Ormonde Man as backup

>>17744635
You clearly don’t if you think TL smells just like ombre leather with raspberry. You’re lying, go ahead - tell me what TL is infamously known for smelling like? Everyone should know this, especially if you’ve smelled it

>>17744666
Hey Satan what is dogshit

>>17744651
What is ormonde man like? always wanted to try it

>>17744667
Kek, you can’t even answer the most simple question. It smells like a particular thing, that everyone agrees it smells like - and once you smell it you think “damn this really does smell exactly like ____”. Also TL has fruit notes, but it’s well blended and it doesn’t really even smell fruity at all. You haven’t tried it kek.

>>17744668
Wearing it now but I’m a pleb and a n00b…it’s soft and cozy while being a little bit sophisticated I guess. Wears close to the skin imo.

>>17744672
How does it smell in comparison to bois imperial since you own both? I have BI but clearly, not Ormonde man

>>17744635
He’s right, you must’ve not tried it if you think they’re really that similar. they’re quite diff.

>>17744674
It’s easier to wear, not as sharp, not a loud…women like it better in my experience, if that matters.

>>17744475
I get the complaints desu. when you market yourself as niche and high-brow and give your fragrances names that sound all conceptual and avant-garde, it's misleading that they're just average designer slop made by L'Oreal
>niche smelling fragrance with niche marketing / themes / aesthetics
cool. example: L'Air du Desert Marocain
>niche smelling fragrance with designer marketing / themes / aesthetics
extremely based. example: Gucci Guilty Absolute, Narciso Rodriguez For Him
>designer smelling fragrance with designer marketing / themes / aesthetics
fair enough. examples: Azzaro Wanted, D&G The One
>designer smelling fragrance pretending to be niche
very cringe. examples: anything by Margiela or Xerjoff

>>17744682
Hmm, sounds good. I may get a 75ml on jomashop for 75$. I like BI but I agree, the sharpness gets old after awhile. It almost reminds me of an old woman perfume towards the end, the opening is class though.

>>17744685
Yeah they are both versatile and casual, but OM is more inviting.

>>17744690
nice, thanks man I will definitely pull the trigger on the 75ml. I’ve heard that Ormonde Jayne Montabaco is also very good as well, notes look interesting.

>>17744684
does Margiela pretend to be niche? id put pdm there

>>17744666
Cocaine you fucking retard. As I said , they are different , but not completely different. I used ombre leather as a reference because that's arguably tom fords most popular fragrance that that anon probably have smelled. Ombre leather is the better of the two anyways, and on a non exhaustive sniff all he would get is , the leather from ombre leather + a raspberry note. On the deep drydown the fragrances diverge, but not that much

>>17744702
Took you long enough to google it kek. They’re more different than they are alike, you said that “they’re so fucking similar” when they aren’t. You just sound retarded, TL smells more like PDM godolphin than it does to ombre leather EDP. You either have a really, really shit nose or you’re simply larping. Either way, you’re retarded.

>>17744699
they're clearly branding themselves as a Le Labo or "private" line type of deal with the identical, minimalist bottles and quirky naming convention

Bros, i'm literally soon to be divorced and get wait to taste the sweet flavor of freedom. The first thing i do is a sex vacation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0hrhLt4-YU

What fragrance could you recommend? My holy grail is Aventus.

>>17744715
Ultra Male would suit your needs just fine if you know what I mean

>>17744710
Yeah you are a special snowflake with a god tier nose. That's what you wanted me to say? There you have it.

But the reality is that most people when they try both, they think they are really similar. Think whatever makes you happy

Is this a good price for OM?

What are some effay alternatives to these pleb fragrances I wore 10 years ago:

Diesel Fuel for Life
A*Men Mugler
Bleu de Chanel

>>17744727
No I said you have a shit nose, any average person can smell both of them and say “yeah those are completely different” because they are. The leathers are presented in 2 completely different ways, and they really don’t smell that similar at all. The only thing they share is a leather note, which again are 2 very different leathers. I’d suggest going to a store and testing both again, I mean this in good faith because maybe your memory isn’t serving you well. Or if you truly own both of them as you said, go smell them right now kek.

>>17744735
I don't really want to join in on the retarded discussion, but the leather accord in OL and TL is not completely different. They both clearly use a similar mix of aromachemicals, probably based around suedarol or whatever that shit is called. True examples of a completely different presentation of leather would be something like Ombre Leather and Fahrenheit.
Can you guys just agree that they don't smell the same, but neither are they completely dissimilar?

>>17744317
I don't really care what you've ordered. I just mentioned a few excellent choices that would take you years to get to yourself.
>>17744651
Why would you take a sea fragrance with you on a trip to beach. Go for Ormonde
>>17744668
Pic rel.
>>17744674
Nothing alike. OJOM and BI are completely different frags.
>>17744684
>>designer smelling fragrance pretending to be niche
>very cringe. examples: anything by Margiela or Xerjoff
Based opinion.
>>17744731
Yes, that's a good price. Are you buying?

Damn , Ive been completely blown away by pic related right now . Splashed a sample from Ecuacion on my hand right now and I'm fucking in love.

For reference I'm your average Beaufort, Nasomatto, tauer enjoyer. Like, my SOTD was obsessive devotion by Hedonik, but damn, now I feel like this classic fougere is all I want to smell until I die.

I'm not even trolling, never paid attention to this family of fragrances and this made me cum

>>17744830
The sweetish, fruity,grape drydown sucks

>>17744726
Nice, gonna check it out, although sweet scents are not mine favorites. But i adore fougeres.
Thinking to check out some eastern european countries, any scents to rock it there?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1k25jf8g24

>>17744856
>eastern european countries
Plenty. In Poland: Lulua, Galilu, MoodScentBar, House of Merlo or Impressium cover 99% of niche discussed here and much more. In Hungary you have 7Scents and so on and so on

>>17744856
drakkar noir

>>17744836
Others that you would recommend with a similar profile?

>>17744868
based. I've been to Impressium and MoodScentBar in Warsaw. Impressium had Nicolai and Essential Parfums frags last time I was there. tiny store, but some intersting stuff. the staff in MoodScentBar is a bit too hands-on for my liking, but some people like conversing with them. last time I was there some middle aged woman kept going on about her favorite fragrance being discontinued and that she loves Kaszebsczi Mech (yes, really!)

I've got this thing coming in the mail, what am I in for?

>>17744715

My ELDO 4 frag sampler is hopefully coming tomorrow with:
Attquer le soleil,
Jasmine et cigarettes,
Fat electrician, and
The spice must flow.
What will I think of them?

>>17744921
Kek, the pajeet teen has just been btfod on the topic he was so hard trying to pretend that he knows something about

>>17744699
No, they don't. They are a designer house (they also make clothes), designer priced, with designer scents. I don't get the hate from some people ITT, they are really just another designer house.

>>17744037
Acqua di gio, of course

>>17744598 #
What kind of frag will get me qt azn girls as a white male?
I really don’t think they’ll like Sauvage

>>17745078
BDC EDP

sotd

What's a more effay/niche version of blue de chanel parfum? something you can wear everyday

Hey fragrance thread maker
You’re an MVP

Man I love the orris root accord found in my Guerlain fragrances. It really helps to dry them out. I can’t stand sweet gay fragrances. They’re just not masculine enough for me.

best leather + tobacco frag? good projection if possible

Got 3 decants. Bdk gris charnel extrait. Smells amazing, sweet and spicy and woody. Pdm greenley, smells musky and green with apple. Also amazing. Dior ambre nuit. This one is alright, smells very peaceful if that makes sense. Probably gonna purchase a full bottle of greenley that shit slaps hard.

>>17745242
Are you retarded? How can you say this charnel smells sweet and spicy. Get your nose checked pajeet. I don’t even believe you have decants. Post picture and time stamp

>>17745167
bdc parfum

>>17745242
>greenly

>>17745249
It literally has vanilla and fig you retard. It smells sweet you're the noselet or you never smelled it.

>>17745266
Never smelled or used pine sol so can't speak on it, all I know is greenley smells fucking good.

>>17745231
I think the only leather and tobacco frags I have are Iron Duke and a sample of Rook's Suede. Iron duke is great, Suede smells like hacking a dart in a brand new leather jacket and I can see why people don't like it. My favorite tobacco frags right now are Amouage's Royal Tobacco, Tobacco Maniac by Theodoros Kalotinis, Tabac Dore by Bortnikoff, Chergui, Masque Milano's Montecristo, Sir Winston by Bortnikoff technically has tobacco absolute in it but it's definitely more a boozy floral tuberose scent. Orto Parisi's Cuoium is a wild leather frag. Oh, Sex & Cigarettes and Havana Conference by Persons of Interest are both really good tobaccos, and his Tabac Noir, I think they have a few others with tobacco notes.

>>17745274
Kek whatever you Indian freak

>>17745285
I'm not even Indian bitch. But if I was I'd poop at your front door

>>17745292

>>17745292
We already saw youre an 80lb Indian when you posted your collection

>>17745277

>Iron Duke
thanks for the writeup, im definitely sampling some of your suggestions, especially iron duke

Best lavender scent for an aged woman? Need it for a gift. Prefferably a french one.

>>17745323
why lavender? lavender has traditionally been used for masculines in perfumery.

>>17745324
She loves and specificaly asked for a lavender one.

>>17745329
get her caron’s pour un homme and tell her homme means woman

>>17744556
DFP isn't really much like Ombre Leather, but there's no bad reason to recommend DFP. it's great and possibly a safe blind buy

>>17744280
I blind bought it, its kind of powdery synthetic 80's smell. My 60 y/o dad loves it though, so I gave it away to him

>>17745266
There was some anon some discontinued threads ago who recommended Greenley as a piney, mossy scent. Gonna order a 10ml sample on Parfumo, hyped up for it, let's see.
My only fear is the apple note, which mostly smell like generic modern blue fragrances reminiscent of Bleu de Chanel or Invictus Aqua.

>>17745450
Check out Arso if you want a good pine scent

>>17745323
L'occitan is bretty gud. simple, naturally smelling lavender with some pepper and very french branding

sotd dakar because i couldn't find my bogart signature bottle
>>17743238
i went into an ex-brothel once and it smelled exactly like toy boy. incredible.
>>17743590
none, they don't make em like they used to. not sure what you mean by higher-end though. just more expensive?
paco rabanne pour homme is lighter and brighter, rammstein waidmanns heil intense is very similar with more incense, quorum/eucris (same shit) is in the same category.
>>17743779
cool water
>>17744069
rahassanai and mriga
>>17744180
it's masstige but it's cheap if you're not an impulsive retard.
t. bought 130ml jazz club for 50€
>>17744579
can't believe people are paying TF prices for zino
>>17744711
you really can't compare them when the prices are so different

Are there any perfumes that smell really strongly of strawberries? I mean like thats all i want to smell like

>>17745525
Sweet Candy Strawberry Kiss Christine Lavoisier Parfums

>>17745481
yeah, Replica frags are masstige (or more like fake niche as MMM is an actual designer house), can be had for relatively cheap but still incredibly bland and generic

>>17745525
Cape Heartache?

>>17745323
Invasion Barbare without the bust. Airy lavender that smells just like lavender fields in the summer.

>>17745525
Or maybe Strawberry The Body Shop

>>17745537
>The Body Shop
quiet a bit cheaper than most others. are they good?

>>17745525
it's for women, but I ike Cartier La Panthere. it's a modernised chypre with prominent strawberry and clean white musk. as far as popular modern women's fragrances go, it's nice

Luna Rossa Carbon. Worth the sample?

>>17745541
From the reviews it smells good but doesn't last

SOTD: Hora de la Verdad by Senyokô. Snice. What are you wearing today, lads?

Gotta say that the Nicolai sample set is pretty good. More diversity in it than other niche houses manage.

>>17745323
Caldey Island Lavender

>>17745573
Egoiste

>>17745453
Arso is predominantly a smoky-woody scent. Murkwood, Norne (heh), Incendo, Fume by Hendley are your friends.

>>17745453
as good as Arso is it's reductive to call it a "pine scent", it's the smokiest frag I've tried

>>17745574
nicolai has more perfumery talent on her pinky finger than all of the arabshit and masstige crap that gets discussed here combined.

>>17745573
Dior homme parfum arrived today and Im wearing it for the first time. Its strong,heavy and imo cozy and sophisticated. I also got a decant of Xerjoff oud alexandria 3 but I try that tomorrow

>>17745586
That I can confirm now. I've tried a few sample sets from other niche houses and they all have that "signature" feel to it, while Nicolai just has it all and each fragrance feels different. They might all be a little bit oldschool, but I actually like that, so I don't care. Gonna wear one of them later (after gym+shower), but haven't decided which one yet.
Also, the discovery set came with two additional samples, Bois Belize Intense and Odalisque. The former is one I wanted to try as well, which made me happy.

>>17745574
>>17745586
I personally like how understated Nicolai is both among other niche brands and here in this thread. Those who know, know. No paid youtube shills or paid reviews, next to no marketing, all bottles look exactly the same. At the same time, e.g. Turin explicitly called NYI the best masculine scent of all time. Nicolai is a good litmus test if someone can think for himself, or his entire taste is just a function of what is popular or talked.

>>17745595
>two additional samples, Bois Belize Intense and Odalisque
You're lucky. These are both amazing scents. Keep us updated, how do you find scents you're testing from her.

>>17745586
She's btw from the Guerlain family. If only Jean-Paul had some sense and would have appointed her as the head perfumer of the house and not Thierry Wasser. Imagine her incorporating some of her scents into the Guerlain line and bringing the house to its former glory. It'd be so funny to see the most important European fragrance house in history to again mogg everyone and just piss on all faux-niche.

>>17745595
do let me know how odalisque and bois belize are. odalisque sounds right up my alley and bois belize seems like an interesting counterpoint to new york intensez

>>17745545
I prefer the original Luna Rossa
and honestly, just get Sauvage. they smell so similar that you might as well get the one that's guaranteed to have good performance and be the original instead of playing the L'Oreal reformulation lottery

>>17745600
>how odalisque and bois belize are
Not that anon, but Odalisque is imho the best classical (fem/fem-leaning) chypre available on the market. Absolutely brilliant fragrance. I'm buying as a gift for my gf at the next opportunity, so I can enjoy it regularly.

>>17745599
i doubt jean paul had any say against LVMH regarding who succeeded him as house perfumer, and in any case it is a good thing that thierry wasser got turned into a reformulation whipping boy while PdN had full rein of her own brand to continue exploring uncharted territory.

>>17745603
>best classical (fem/fem-leaning) chypre
Green-floral, I should have specified. Mitsuoko (Extrait) is still a great fragrance.

>>17745600
I've tested Bois Belize Intense on a strip because I didn't have to open the discovery set for it, and it opened with a strong and spicy rose and has now progressed to cloves. Reminds me of a smoother Jacomo de Jacomo as of now, or Costume National Homme without the sandalwood. Might actually give that one a full wear later.

>>17745604
Maybe you're right. Given a much smaller scale and exclusivity of fragrance industry decades ago, buying from Nicolai these days probabaly feels the same of what it must felt to buy Guerlain 60+ years ago.

>>17745610
Kek here’s the jeet coming back for more. Nobody cares about your Guerlain frags

>>17745614
I’m not the Indian kid. In contrary I think that being very heavily into vintages in 2023 is ridiculous in most but a few very specific cases. However, for sure that’s not the way any teenager should walk in this hobby. We live in a golden age of perfumery and for every fragrance of the past you can find a modern, better rendition that’s functionally equivalent. In most of cases being heavily into vintages is just a result of following steeply certain groupthink in online fragrancesphere and not a determinant of taste. And I’m saying it as a person who had hunted a few vintage Eau Sauvage and Guerlain bottles myself in the past (sold them all eventually).

>>17745603
>>17745605
>>17745603
>>17745605
you had me questioning either your sanity or PdN’s perfuming skill if odalisque was somehow a greater chypre than mitsouko or diorella. regardless, definitely something i plan on smelling among others when i visit nicolai’s paris boutique in a week or two.
>>17745607
interesting, a lot of reviews described it as something of a country scent a la equipage or vetiver, but what you’re saying almost sounds dandified. will have to find out for myself.
>>17745610
i doubt anything can compare to walking into guerlain’s champs-elysee shop on the day of a new fragrance release (be it from jacques or jean paul), but PdN is close enough and in a suitably classical manner that all one has to do is close their eyes and imagine the difference.

>>17745622
>being very heavily into vintages in 2023 is ridiculous in most but a few very specific cases
What are those cases?

>>17745639
For example when a scent has been your signature for years or a very important fragrance for other reasons. If NYI was to be discontinued (or heavily reformulated), I would buy probably 10-20 back up bottles. For all other of my fragrances, I would just accept that it’s the way things are and that I should say a farewell to them. Eventually I would find a new or functionally equivalent fragrance in their places that I would like as much. But to get into vintages just because you read something online, especially while being less than 10 years into this hobby is ridiculous. Unless you hold a particular, borderline academic, historical interest in them. But I haven’t met a single person like that in those threads despite coming here for years.

>>17745623
Guess I'll have to wait for the drydown of BBI to see if it becomes more tea-like, but as of right now it's very clove-like, way spicier than I expected. Granted, I don't remember what mate tea smells like, since I've only tried it once and didn't like the taste, so never touched it again.
I was surprised to see that neither fragrantica nor parfumo have listed Jacomo de Jacomo or Costume National Homme as similar. Parfumo even considers this to be more feminine (although they are lacking data). I really gotta give this a full wear to see in which direction it develops.

Thoughts on this? Ok for the office? Do ladies like it?

>>17745587
I love Dior Homme Parfum, it's my go-to night out and date fragrance. smells really sexy and cozy, yet not boring or generic, has a bit of complexity and evolution to it plus great performance. this is what a modern designer gourmandish fragrance should smell like. unfortunately most of them are just straight up sugarbombs

>>17745664
Get Bois Imperial by Essential Parfums instead.

>>17745664
I like it. it's really safe for the office. I slightly prefer the more airy EDT, which is also cheaper. the EDP is sweeter and has more of an oakmoss note.
don't blind buy though. no idea if "ladies like it", it probably depends on the lady in question

I sprayed battito d'ali today and suddenly I hate it and gives me a fucking headache. It used to be one of my favourites one month ago, what happened? Is this normal to happen?

>>17745664
>In seduction as in intimidation, intent is everything. A hack from Men’s Health, a magazine notable for the pectorals on its cover, wrote to me asking, “How can a man maximize the influence of his cologne choices to attract the women he’s really interested in?” Efficient mating strategies are good in principle, but this one is doomed. Waste time wondering which “cologne” pulls better, and your genes will spread only by lucky accident. A perfume should be right for the man, not for the job.

>>17745669
why would anyone buy trademarked givaudan slop over christine nagel’s excellence?

>>17745686
Because BI is a better fragrance. There's a reason why Hermes gave up on pushing marketing for H24; they realized that it's a mediocre fragrance and a failure release that doesn't have chance to replace TdH as the Hermes' staple men's frag

sorry bois, this is a BBI not a BI thread from now on

>>17745692
if H24 were performing so badly they wouldn’t have released an EdP flanker that’s almost exactly the same. it’s also clearly not intended as a TdH replacement unless you’re somehow insane enough to see bel ami as an equipage replacement. sorry you’re too easily impressed by givaudanslop trademarked aromachemicals to see the inventiveness of H24’s accord.

>>17745695
You're wrong. Releasing flankers is the classic desperate move to bring some attention to the release and milk it. See the timeline of releases of flankers of actually successful fragrances like Sauvage

>>17745702
that only works if the flankers are actually different, moron

>>17745654
Guerlain shill here, also not Indian, I got into Guerlain vintage frags because they smell better and are cheaper than buying new or at discounters. They use to use better quality oils instead of synthetics. For example I’m wearing vintage bottle of Guerlain heritage. In the vintage formula they use Mysore sandalwood and this shows when comparing modern to vintage formulas.

>>17745693
retards here would rather buy some fucking screechy woody amber just because it was shilled to them by some mulatto mongrel who’s addicted to tranny porn.

>>17745711
You have no idea what you are talking about, and it shows in every single sentence of yours. Or you are again just baiting/trolling to cause some commotion and derail the thread (just like with the real orris root in Vetiver). In any case, do not reply to my posts any more. I am not interested in having any sort of conversation with you.

>>17745713
What part of that was wrong? I haven’t said anything about orris root but I Mysore sandalwood in Guerlain heritage is true.

>>17745664
>Thoughts on this?
i like it, very interesting green scent, kinda has an unripe banana note which may or may not be for you, test both EDP and EDT before you buy it, i think the EDP is a bit sweeter and less divisive
i find H24 way more interesting and complex than BI (>>17745669)
>Ok for the office?
yes
>Do ladies like it?
if you have to ask...

>the Bisch shill has not once mentioned Attaquer le Soleil by ELDO
huh

>>17745745
you expected the negro mutt to be able to be thorough and meticulous with following his own favorite pet perfumer?

>>17745745
Which is double funny because it is actually one of the best works of Bisch.

>>17743633
Concrete but I wouldn't recommend it because it's very divisive, feminine leaning and could perform better but I'm a weirdo and I like it.

>>17745599
ironically thierry wasser created his masterpiece before he joined guerlain. it all went downhill from there
>>17745745
attaquer le soleil is... something. it's so harsh that it smelled almost smoky to me.
>>17745533
i wouldn't call jazz club or by the fireplace generic at all. in fact i think these two are more original than the majority of masstige dogshit that is ambroxan bomb #8282992. liking them is a different thing

>>17745772
I smelled it yesterday at Notino and there's nothing divisive about it. It's very designer-ish and easy to pull off.

>>17745777
thierry wasser has never made anything of value of his own, his best work is as guerlain’s personal reformulation janitor.

Where can I get some nice candles for cheap? I love earl of east's stuff but it's very expensive.

Thoughts on this?

>>17745784
Holy fuck, they shat out another flanker to the most boring margin-oriented line L'Oreal has ever conceived?
The entire Born In Roma line made me shake my head whenever I smelled them at any store. Granted, it's only been Born In Roma, BIR Coral Fantasy and the Valentino Donna BIR yet. It's all just a copy-paste of various mixtures of currently mass-produced fragrant chemicals. It's all just "I've smelled this before".
My thoughts are the bottles need to be stolen from the store and quickly destroyed, to send a message.

>>17745792
holy based

>>17745780
wrong.
>>17745784
boring masstige trash, >>17745792 is right.

>>17745801
>shilling for fucking dali fragrances
roflmao

Any good perfumes for men/unisex that have strong wisteria notes?
I love the smell of the wisteria at my house and seems like to would be good in perfume.

>>17745804
you've never smelled it

>>17745807
lol what’s it like batting for the old man’s equivalent of a paris hilton fragrance

>>17745806
Summer Peaches by Prin Lomros, Diptyque Olene, Acca Kappa Wisteria. In this order. The latter two are not particularly masculine, but you won't find many floral-forward, let alone wisteria-forward, masc frags anyway.

S(ex)OTD

>>17745778
>I smelled it yesterday at Notino

>>17745573
>What are you wearing today, lads?
Versace Pour Homme

>>17745577
based

>>17745832
Don't you have brick and mortar Notino shops where you live? They're quite nice. Not only you pay as little as at online discounters, but you can also smell plenty of pseudo-niche frags that I couldn't be bothered to go to a shop specifically (nor spend money on samples). They had Initio, Parfums de Marly, CdG and Atelier Cologne.

>>17744830
Opinions on this anons?

>>17745846
I think these are only a thing in a few countries. but they're very useful for testing the cheapies or lesser known brands that Sephora doesn't carry

>>17744830
>>17745859
It's great. You probably just fully experienced oakmoss for the first time. Here, have a chart.

>>17745884
Thank you anon, I'll try some stuff from that list and report back

>>17745884
they all smell like cool water

>>17745923
eau sauvage smells like cool water? news to me.

>>17744067
>>17744076
These arrived yesterday, my initial impression:

Tobacco Vanille
CDG2 Man
Juniper Sling
—
My favourites. I’ll probably cop a bottle of Tobacco Vanille for fall/winter.

Creed fragrances were all great, but poor performance. Aventus probably the best smelling (and performing) out of the three.

By The Fireplace was interesting but I can’t see when I’d wear it.

Wasn’t really a fan of the rest. I can see the appeal for Amber Sultan but it’s not for me.

i'm beginning to think my samples aren't going to arrive

>>17745926
Ignore him. His tripled troll thread didn't turn out to be very successful, so he's just baiting people here to get some attention. That's a really deranged individual with too much time on his hands.

>>17745939
What did you order anon

>hairy chest aromatic fougere

>>17745946
not enough

>>17745953
Don't you have a drug store or a mall around or something?

>>17745955
no

>>17745955
you can't really test or sample a multiple scents all at once in a mall or drug store. Scents need time and skin contact

>>17745953
How much? And where did you buy that

>>17745962
the junk he ordered definitely does not need either of those.

>>17745986
i knew i'd elicit butthurt

>>17745930
>Tobacco Vanille for fall/winter.
Before you buy tobacco vanille, sample other tobacco+vanille fragrances. For example:

Tobacolor
Naxos
Eau des Bavx (one of my favourites from my entire collection)
Herod

I'm not really a huge fan of that profile, but these in my opinion are better than tobacco vanille, and cheaper

>>17745987
who’s butt is hurt? over what? ck one?

>>17745992
seems like it

>>17745994
i’m sure you wish that were true.

>>17745995
i'd like to know what those fragrances smell like, ok?

>>17745996
sucks to be you.

>>17745991
Thanks for the tip anon GDDX4

>>17745930
You have no idea what you are talking about, and it shows in every single sentence of yours. Or you are again just baiting/trolling to cause some commotion and derail the thread. In any case, do not reply to my posts any more. I am not interested in having any sort of conversation with you.

>>17745930
>>17745991
Oud Malaki and Burberry London are also really good sweetish tobacco fragrances, worth a shot

>>17746007
Kek, the pajeet teen has just been btfod on the topic he was so hard trying to pretend that he knows something about

>>17742965
which one of those is Japanese? im literally pic rel

>>17746027
the gooks aren’t into fragrances, thank god.

>>17746027
Try le issey missey lkay san

>>17746027
CDG and Issey Miyake are from Japan
CDG Incense: Kyoto would be my pick for a weeb fragrance

>>17746007
Was this meant for me anon?

>>17746040
Yes jeet then the other anon came to comment how you got btfo. In any case, do not reply to my posts any more. I am not interested in having any sort of conversation with you.

>>17746027
From the left? Di Ser. It’s a based brand, too
Captcha:JPN

give me a single reason why i shouldn't buy this masterpiece

>>17746052
It’s a Boss Bottled clone with 50% bumped up performance and the the price by 500%

>>17746034
>>17746038
>>17746047
are there any from these close to ysl's (la nuit de) l'homme? i have those two currently. thanks anons

>>17746052
Wow what a masculine vintage fragrance. Just leave my thread you stupid Indian teen.

does anyone actually like m7 oud absolu?

>>17746056
now you'll think that each masculine retro frag lover is that Indian kid

>>17746052
>masterpiece
>pdm
lmfao

Has anyone tried Guerlain vetiver before? I only tried Encre noir because I was gifted a bottle from my mom. I want to try something more green and fresh and I hear they share similar ingredients.

>>17746065
no, no one has ever heard of guerlain vetiver ever. it’s super obscure.

>>17746063
Kek here’s the noodle arms indian teenager who is relentlessly shilling vintages here.

>>17746052
Because it smells identical to Mont Blanc Legend which is 99% identical to A&F Fierce.

>>17746065
it definitely is green and fresh, but it smells much more old school than EN. has a prominent tobacco note and lacks the fluffy Iso E Super background of EN. do try it though, it's a classic. good pick if you want to smell like a rugged old gardener, covered in soil and smoking a pipe, but that's not for everyone
try Grey Vetiver as well, that one is easy to find for testing in many fragrance stores and probably more accessible. or the Terre d'Hermes line, or just Encre Noire Sport, the fresher flanker to Encre Noire

Just bought picrel at 100 ml for 35$ at TJ maxx. Forgot just how much of a masterpiece this bad boy is, best fresh cheapie of all time. Inb4 longevity, just spray more of it. Fantastic juice.

>>17746070
That's the indian schizo teenager with his baseless vintage shilling. He has never had any idea what he was talking about. Just ignore him

>>17746072
the gay dragon from basenotes agrees with you, though the snobs may scoff
personally I think it smells really pleasant but a bit too non-descript for me, all the notes blend into an accord of squeaky cleanliness. I do think it's much better than Versace Pour Homme and Nautica Voyage though

what’s the deal with fragrancenet? why is aventus so much cheaper there?
am I getting scammed if I order from them?

>>17746070
putting tom bored and watery ellena iso e slop in the same sentence as guerlain’s vetiver is an insult.

>>17746076
Great assessment. There are a few better freshies, but they’re all quite literally 5-10x the price. Dollar for dollar, it’s very difficult to beat this one. Love it.

>>17746082
what are the better freshies you know, by the way?

>>17746078
you’re getting scammed if you buy aventus.

>>17746084
for me, I think AdG profundo is one of the few that is better but again, around 3x the price

>>17746092
JeP Acqua is nice if you like dirt cheap freshies. Very good clone of Kenzo Pour Homme.

>>17746096
Interesting, I’ll have to check it out. Love Kenzo

For me it's Bleu de Chanel, Parfum. Going to blind buy Terre d'Hermes. Convince me out of it.

>>17746112
why would i? you’re apparently a sucker for underachieving, sounds like it’s right up your alley.

>>17746116
What? Women prefer Dylan Blue to any of your niche fragrances. Never forget that.

>>17746112
Buy the Parfum version, best out of the bunch

But if you never smelled tdh you won't like it

>>17746079
you're still a twiggy 16 years old indian teenager

>>17746121
i buy fragrances for myself, not women. speaking of women, TdH is notorious for being simultaneously loved by men and hated by women. how do you like them apples?

>>17746112
I think you should go to the store and smell it first. TdH is really easy to find in stores
it seems to be more divisive than BdC Parfum, but has a similar appeal (mature, woody, somewhat serious and elegant but fresh and modern), so you should definitely try it

>>17746137
you must have seriously low standards for elegance if TdH or BdC somehow fit the bill.

>>17746140
My standards of elegance certainly don't include being a shitposting brown twink who tries to cosplay as white and manly with his fragance.
But yes, BdC and TdH are "elegant" for normie noses. Even Luca Turin said so in his BdC review.

>>17746133
my mother likes TdH

what's a good fragrance for my upcoming vacation in magaluf (I want to fuck some bitches)

>>17746150
he refers to it as refined. many, many fragrances are refined, but few are truly elegant. not something i would expect someone so easily entertained by yelling about indians like an old west cowboy all day to be able to discern though.
>>17746153
your mother is being very polite. thank her and treat her to a nice dinner sometime.

>>17746157
but i don't like or wear TdH

>>17746155
joop: deano retard edition

>>17746160
i wouldn’t if i were you either, unless you intend on banging your mom.

Sauvage by Dior

>>17746226
goyslop by demachy

I am so FUCKING tired of good fragrances costing so much, how hard can it be to put together a simple fragrance containing two accords that doesn't develop very much but has a realistic smell and good performance?
Shit like acqua di sale is completely linear and smells like myrtle and aquatic ozone, attaquer le soleil which was mentioned in this thread is supposed to only smell like labdanum, a 100ml bottle from the molecule line costs close to $100, how hard can it be to design frags?
Why should I not do it myself?
Does anyone here design their own frags, and if so what were your experiences with it?
Even simple doing enormously simple shit like putting together iso e-super, vetiveryl acetate, camphor and alcohol should yield decent results, should it not?

>>17746248
dunning kruger moment

>>17746155
Try Etat Libre D Orange Secretions Magnifiques
its a very fresh tropical scent that makes bitches go bannanas

>>17746263
lmfao based

going to a wedding next week, thinking of buying a 100ml bois imperial for it since i liked the 10ml so much. any other recommendations?

>>17746281
>>17746263
Not that anon, but I showed secretions to a female friend and she liked it and said it smelled like "fruits"

>>17746263
thx will try this :)

>>17746288
that’s fucking hilarious, you should buy her a bottle and see if she stands by her opinion after a month.

Why does Penhaligon's piece of shit website not work?

>>17746296
because they’re trying to tell you something. take the hint.

>>17746248
I put together rosemary and oregano, well, it smells like food and is a lot weaker than a real fragrance

What perfume smells like super mario 64?

>>17746313
>water of plumber
so sewer water?

>>17746052
Layton or Layton Exclusif? Layton is literally the fragrance my coworker thought was for women when he first smelled it. It's really good (for girls), although Grand Soir is probably the better masstige choice.

>>17746069
Wrong PdM. That would be Percival.

don't forget we already have a new thread
>>17744923
>>17744923
>>17744923
no reason to make another 3 new threads please

>>17746340
very based, i was just about to post the same
>pic unrelated

Finally tested picrel, I must say this is a masterpiece for me - by far the most balanced and well blended post 2020 dior Homme. Natural lemon, mixed with metallic effervescent modern woods. The dry down reminds me so much of AdG Profumo, it has that slightly Smokey, almost lotion like quality that blends perfectly into the top notes and then is pulled forward alongside the woods and citrus in the background. Very complex overall, 3 definitive stages to the frag, very very well made. One of the very few designers that will make you stand out whilst also being non offensive or replicable. Francois Demachy did it again, like sauvage I foresee this DNA being copied by other houses once people catch on to just how good it is. Truly nothing else like it on the designer market. By far the best of the post 2020 Dior Homme line, and in all honesty i personally would wear this over Dior Homme Intense because it is a year round scent, that is more mature and way less sweet. all in all 9.3/10 for me after testing once.

>>17746357
New!
>>17746357
New!

>>17746356
Yawn. Nice blog.

>>17746356
so many words to say so little

>>17746155

>>17746356
Mine coming in today

>>17745953
holy shit wtf