/fa/ - Fashion

First for quartzchads, mechanicucks on suicide watch

That'll be $6000+tip

threadly reminder that if your watch doesnt say rolex, literally no one gives a fuck

Why is the Air Kang so unloved?

>>17717903
Bulova style of high freq quartz should be the standard.

>>17717919
The numbers are weird.

>>17717919
too many fucking fives on the damn dial

>>17717919
>Triangle at 12
>Metallic 3, 6, and 9
>Luminous minutes.

YIKES
It's a very confused design.

>>17717919
>5
>10
>3
>20
>25
>6
>35
>40
>9
>50
>55
>▽
absolutely unlovable

>>17717919
5500 is great.

>>17717934

Just got back from getting my new beautiful pre-owned Rolex after trading in my Tudor and Grand Seiko, suck it retards!

>>17717939
oh no no no no

>>17717939
>paying thousands of dollars for something somebody else wore to take shits and go to the bathroom
lol, couldnt afford a new one

F91 | F105 is the best watch
>small
>light
>thin
>digital
>costs nothing
and you don't think about it

>>17717939
What’s wrong with that crown?

You have INFINITE BUDGET to spend in each of these categories. What do you chose?
>3 hands sports watch (field/pilot/integrated bracelet/whatever)
>diver
>chronograph
>business watch (ie basic dress watch : small, low-key, no crazy complication)
>CEO dress watch (typically annual/perpetual calendar or world timer)
>wild card

>>17717939
fakey mc fake fake

>>17717952
>>3 hands sports watch (field/pilot/integrated bracelet/whatever)
Vacheron 222
>>diver
Rolex Submariner (5 digits)
>>chronograph
ALS Datograph
>>business watch (ie basic dress watch : small, low-key, no crazy complication)
JLC Reverso Tribute rose gold white dial
>>CEO dress watch (typically annual/perpetual calendar or world timer)
Patek World Time
>>wild card
Don't need one, I'll keep my Rolex Explorer instead :)

>>17717952
idk
but snoopyspeed

>>17717939
It's ugly.

>>17717952
>3 hands watch

>>17717939
what gs?

>>17717978
Gay Sexko

>>17717919
It's like a fantasy shitter rolex explorer fake from china.

>>17717976
why do people like this thing so much? is it a case of it looking much better IRL or something?

>>17718001
dunno but I think it's hilarious Journe's most popular watch is the most basic one.
He makes these extremely autistic complicated watches and yet everyone wants the 3 hands one lmao

>>17717963
Dumb meme brand

>>17718001
You’re confusing your subjective opinion with objective truth

Common sub 100 IQ move, don’t worry too much about it

You’ll never figure out how to be better

>>17718015
so you can't explain why you like it, and thus probably only like it because of the hype? got it

>>17718001
>why do people like this thing so much?
because other people like it

Look how Chinese fakers mimic a big date complication lmao

>>17718016
https://youtu.be/QFFdSR6U_kc

Heads up bros, this shitter just got restocked so if you want to get this without having to pay scalpers, now would be the best time to go for it. The mechanical version is also available but why the fuck would you want a mechanical on a dial that doesn't display the most aesthetic aspect of automatics in the process?

Other notable one that also got restocked is Beam Me Up!

fingers crossed for Mispoes, I'm selling my Zelos Mako if that ever pops up again.

Am I too late for the meme?

>>17718022
Yes. The fact that scalpers are now selling that shit for $5 less off RRP in StockX is a testament to that.

it doesn't help when Farer also makes a Moonwatch "homage" off the best Moonswatch out of the bunch. Omega really needs to come up with an official version of Mission to Mars.

>>17718022
scalpers got fucked so hard hahahaha

Has anyone actually figured out what chronograph ian malcolm is wearing? It's not a heuer, or a hanhart. Only thing I can really make out is it has long bar indices at 12 and 6, and one or two lines of text at 12 & 6 as well.

>>17718023
>best Moonswatch out of the bunch

for me it's this
they should make a special edition speedmaster with a real ceramic case like this

also i cant believe SWATCH cheapened out so hard on these. do they take no pride in the SWISS made name?

>>17718028
couple more shots of the case sides

>>17718028
Definitely a Hanhart, if it was a Hauer, Tag would've marketed it hard like Omega did with Bond watches.

Not a bad call either, Hanhart has the rep of being worn by actors in film without being paid to wear them, McQueen also does this with his 1713ES.

>>17718022
The day Swatch announced that piece of plastic crap was the day I decided to sell my Aqua Terra. Absolutely pathetic and disgusting.

>>17718029
Yea, that's my second pick as well.

I guess I just really like the white variants of the Moonwatch.

>>17718031
There are tons of details wrong with the hanhart. Unless it's some other model than this one.

Partially out of frame, but you can see there's a tachymeter (or some other scale like it) on the dial.

>>17718038
Actually now that I look closer you can also see that every index is a bar like the ones at 12 and 6.

Hell this thing is closer than the hanhart.

>>17718028
I feel like its going to be a literal who brand from the 60s.

>>17718060
Yea after looking at more and more vintage chronos you're probably right. This comes close but the dial isn't all black and the lugs aren't as curved.

>>17718043
>>17718060
Hanhart still probably takes a bit of a credit from that since its literally whos that ripped off their Pioneer design.

>>17718025
I literally got mine in a trade for two shirts lmaooo

how come old chronographs were so thin and new (entry level) chronographs are so thick?

>>17718064
Good for you.

No Swatch is worth past $70. Hell, if you want the best Swatch inspired watches, Mr. Jones is the better avenue for that vs. their "80s" licensed cheap shit that they're selling for $150. The former might be selling for $245 but it's with sapphire glass and 316 L SS, while the Swatch ones are using cheap Seiko Mekaquartz movement with "Bioceramic" material for their cases and acrylic for crystal.

I don't know how Swatch gets away doing the same shit as Filippo Loretti, Valuchi, and all other scam brands out there.

>>17717906
learn in2 lighting, faggot

>>17718074
cope

>>17718065
>how come old chronographs were so thin and new (entry level) chronographs are so thick?
Old chronographs were usually manually wound. New chronos are most often automatic.

>>17718076
They're right though. Indices and appliques are also zaratsu polished. Unless you've got a lightbox, trying to take pictures of GS pieces are a struggle to pull off.

Speaking of zaratsu polish, it's worse with Mirrorless/DSLR since you have to set up extenders if you can't afford an $800 macro lens. I genuinely don't know how one can even video zaratsu polish's visual effect in action. You can see it go from silver to black in a few frames but you can't really see the visual transition on video, just in person, and I'm starting to think it's not even possible to do so since not even Seiko, Casio or Citizen have been able to pull this off in their marketing materials.

>>17718065
hamilton is just... yuck! i'm sorry, it just gives me the ick! don't be poor!!

>>17718069
>while the Swatch ones are using cheap Seiko Mekaquartz movement
Are you sure?

>>17718082
>They're right though. Indices and appliques are also zaratsu polished.
No they're not. Only the cases are. They're still polished to a very high standard, just not with 'zaratsu'.

>>17718089
Meant the Neon Chronograph ones, hence the emphasis on $150.

>>17718092
I see. But why would they use a Seiko movement? Don't they have any Swiss ones to choose from?

>>17718094
Seiko's movements are way cheaper, roughly around $18 per unit, and it gets way less when bought in bulk.

Still better than Supergroupies and their Tongji movements but they're equally criminal with the prices they charge for their watches.

I bought a Speedie ref 311 full set with everything. It's 6 years old but the owner barely wore it and had it mostly in a box. It's literally untouched, he didn't ever take the bracelet off, the straps are still sealed and the lugs are like a babys arse.

I'm afraid to even wear the bastard because of its condition. It's crisp enough that I could shave my beard with it. Terrifying to think that wearing it might put marks on it. I feel like I should store this in a box and keep it as museum piece for future generations.

Pic unrelated, it's someones beater.

>>17718001
It's a nice looking watch but nobody cared until the price exploded due to speculation, same with the Daytona.

>>17718065
Entry level chrono movements aren't.
They're your regular ass ETA/etaclone with a "module" grafted on that has a chrono function. Thickening things thickly.
This doesn't explain the purpose built through and through chrono calibers needing such thick cases though.
Just bad design.

>>17718102
If you're afraid to wear it because you'll degrade its value. You're renting it.

The fact that it's in near new condition makes it fully yours, your scratches, your watch. Wear it with pride.

>>17718089
>"Swiss"
>made in the ETA factory in Thailand
>cased in a watch made in the Swatch factory in China
AHHHHHH THE SWISSSSSS

>>17718102
Wear it my nigga, make it yours
Speedy ain't meant to be kept in the drawer, wear it, scratch it up, beat it up, wank with it on

>>17718117
>wank with it on

I do this with my GS, hell it stays on in sex.

If you're not doing this with your watch, it ain't yours.

This is an automatic chronograph with a GMT, there are no excuses.

>>17718119
Yes but the watches you're comparing that to doesn't come close to $15k.

>>17718102
>>17718117
another anon here confirmed 50m wr is adequate sealing against ejaculate. wank on it with pride

>>17718127
You making it sound like watches with 1 BAR die the moment they get cummed on.

Certified Cockwatch moment.

>>17718128
I have strong ejaculate so I need at least 20bar of cum resistance.

>>17718129
Where were you when they needed more men for that one bucket scene from Ichi the Killer?

>>17717952
>3 hands sports watch (field/pilot/integrated bracelet/whatever)

Grand Seiko Snowflake

>diver

Rolex Sea-Dweller Deep Sea

>chronograph

Cartier Pasha or Speedy in solid gold with the green dial

>business watch (ie basic dress watch : small, low-key, no crazy complication)

Eichi 2

>CEO dress watch (typically annual/perpetual calendar or world timer)

PP World Timer or a Christiaan van der Klaauw watch

>>17718117
>>17718112
>>17718127
Fair points.

NEW SHITTER JUST CAME BROS

>>17718149
Duoface.
I also got the FAGliano fabric strap. Looks nice.

>>17718149
>>17718152
Ok and retard?

>>17718149
>>17718152
Have you tried eating and lifting some heavy circle plates m8

>>17718149
>>17718152
Not a fan of these types of watches but if it's your grail, congrats.

>>17718149
>>17718152
kino
>>17718154
no bully, he has marfans

>>17718159
Its the same reason why I didn't post the wrist shot of GS since its 44mm and I got small ass wrists.

No overhang, but you know damn well people will still call it oversized anyway.

>>17718154
>>17718159
Yeah I know I'm a wristlet. Can't do much about it, I run a lot and have to stay lean.

>>17718165
Nice collection, what are you thinking of next

>>17718165
perfect, i can imagine the moser sitting to the left

>>17718165
>Something a bit more casual and friendly, yet sporty while also getting all the girls wet

>>17718169
I wish you never showed me this

I didn't think there was an Omega I actually wanted until this came into my attention.

>>17718166
>>17718167
Thanks, I think I'm fine for now.
Maybe a gold dress watch in a few years.

>>17717939
Saw you in the other thread nerd, this is a terrible fake. Throw away your energy drink can gross faggot

>>17717919
>Five King

>>17718169
>that will be 20k plus tip
at this point I might as well buy a Rolex

>>17717984
Except it's the real thing.

The Air King is just a bigger sucker's game since people buy that in the hopes their AD would be true to their word and buying one would bump them up on the waitlist for a Submariner, Explorer or Yachtmaster, which they then proceed to flip anyway in the hopes some normie without and horological expertise would buy it before knowing the shit they get themselves into.

You're literally better off with a pre-owned Oysterquartz.

>>17718188
>You're literally better off with a pre-owned Oysterquartz.
have you seen the prices on those? you can get a brand new DJ or Explorer 1 for that money

>>17718165
>>17718149
>>17718152
Is it hard getting used to the square layout?
One thing that I'd be afraid of pissing me off is say when it's 4-5 o'clock and the by then very short hour hand means it takes a microsecond longer than normal to tell the time, figuring out where it's actually pointing. You know what I mean? Has that been an issue or am I over thinking it?

>>17718149
>>17718152
Nice, enjoy wearing it.

>>17718149
Post better pics of the strap please, impossible to find anything but marketing shots
I was obsessed with the idea of sticking a 300 bucks strap on some orient bambino shitter but it seems they're store exclusive and you can't get them online

Daily reminder that "this watch is too small" is cope.

>>17718199
>I was obsessed with the idea of sticking a 300 bucks strap on some orient bambino shitter

It's the best strat though, its the very thing that fooled millenials into thinking the Orient Bambino was worth thousands, just because it was on a leather strap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gaiFsgeO1k

>>17718199
Nothing groundbreaking. It's calf and cotton, with smooth calf leather underneath. Don't waste 300 on it, it's stupidly overpriced.

>>17717952
>3 hands sports watch (field/pilot/integrated bracelet/whatever)
H Moser Streamliner
>diver
Rolex Submariner
>chronograph
Jaeger le coultre reverso tribute chronograph
>business watch (ie basic dress watch : small, low-key, no crazy complication)
FP Journe chronometer bleu
>CEO dress watch (typically annual/perpetual calendar or world timer)
FP Journe quntieme perpetual black label
>wild card
Vacheron Constantin Historiques American 1921

>>17718209
Pic of the lining.
It's also very stiff right now.

>>17718209
>>17718211
Thanks!
Yeah it's overpriced but I love the color of that beige one and the look of the cotton with leather tips, and frankly I spent days looking for alternatives and couldn't find much.
Handmade won't be that much cheaper either. Oh well, if I'm ever in Geneva, maybe.

>>17718179
I didn’t even post it here, someone took the image which is hilarious

>>17717910
Reminded that watches will never be a substitute for your lack of masculinity.

>>17717952
>3 hands sports watch (field/pilot/integrated bracelet/whatever)
Vacheron 222 (the new one)
>diver
a Comex Submariner
>chronograph
Paul Newman Daytona
>business watch (ie basic dress watch : small, low-key, no crazy complication)
Patek 6129g (is this low key?)
>CEO dress watch (typically annual/perpetual calendar or world timer)
Rolex 6062
>wild card
Adolfs Jaeger

>>17718220
>Adolfs Jaeger
great choice

>>17718220
Does Rolex still make these? That's an excellent looking watch?

>>17718233
of course not, Rolex only makes oversized monstrosities for chinks and arabs

>>17718188
>You're literally better off with a pre-owned Oysterquartz
aren't you always, anon?

>>17718241
Royal Oak cope

>>17718247
your mother is a horse cope.

>>17718250

>>17718233
>>17718236
>Rolex Moonphase
>That isn't on a gay Cellini

Why the fuck isn't this a thing anymore?

>>17718230
>Gayjer
Hitler was a homo, so no surprise you're a bumboy from /pol/.
Meanwhile, a more based watch owned by the based Allied Supreme Commander who owned that inferior subhuman Austrian, Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower, a Heuer Reference 2447:

lol

>>17718263
No wonder he won:
Seethe more, /pol/ppets.

>>17718247
RO
>stops working when in the general vicinity of water
>stops working when bumping into something
>anti magwhat?
>70h power reserve
>famously worn by rappers

OQ
>safe for swimming
>can beat the shit out of it without care
>inherently anti magnetic, throw it in the fucking mri if you want
>years of power reserve
>famously worn by rheinold messner and sir edmund hillary
you spent 25 grand on a pice of shit and i am the one coping? :)

>>17718001
Because now hardly anyone can afford one. It has become a symbol of wealth and watchmaking "culture". And the dial is cool af.

>>17718273
I never claimed the AP was a better watch, in fact its a POS
but its no coincidence that the price of the Oysterquartz (and IWC Ingenieur, VC Overseas, or even Tissot PRX) started to shoot up when the AP hype started because of nignog rappers
you buy a Oysterquartz because you cant afford the watch you actually want, its called coping

>>17718266

Watching that right now. I'm going to buy a GS some time soon, but not this model.

>>17718018

>>17718266
He's right.
I absolutely hate GS's designs but this one is kino.
Also no meme spring drive which is a plus.

Is there a <40 mm quartz chrono that has lume also on the chrono hands? I want to time things in the dark, but I don't like the look of digital watches

>>17718335
I normally hate Nico Leonard but he is right about this:
How is a watch a “great value” when it loses half its value by the time you leave the ad?

>>17718361
>How is a watch a “great value” when it loses half its value by the time you leave the ad?
Oh yeah this is 100% true.
I was just saying it's a nice looking watch.

>>17718187
That Rolex will probably come with a time bomb 32xx movement

>>17718361
If you care about investment, you probably shouldn't be looking at funny wrist jewelry that gets scratched up

>>17718210
>>17717899
Can people who like this VC tell me why they like it? What's the appeal?

>>17718386
contrarianism
its an objectively bad design

>>17718230
I really doubt this even belonged to him.
How many watches out there have an engraved eagle or swastika, decades after the fact, in order to raise their value? Scratch in an A.H and MEIN GOTT IT'S SCHLICKLEGRUEBER'S UHREN!!1

>>17718388
you cant be 100% sure, but its probably his since american soldiers looted it from his personal home in bavaria
its likely that he never actually wore it tho

>>17718386
You don't need to twist your hand at all to vie the time and I just really like the shape of the case and the movement is obviously gorgeous too.

>>17718393
>You don't need to twist your hand at all to vie the time
every car made in the last 70 years has a clock

>>17718392
Why do you think that? It looks well worn.

>>17718394
I was talking about it in a general way.

>>17718395
there are no pictures of him wearing this watch
but maybe he only wore it in private, who knows

>>17718386
>breguet numerals
>breguet hands
>railroad minute track
>small second
>case shape
It's a meme watch but it looks cool.
Neo-vintage done right.

>>17718386
It’s a 6 figure shitpost

>>17718410
>It’s a 6 figure shitpost
richard mille...

>>17718361
>How is a watch a “great value” when it loses half its value by the time you leave the ad?
You're incredibly retarded. A watch is a fashion and/or technological item. Its value derives by what it provides to the wearer, in terms of looks, function and comfort. Being "great value" means that it provides good looks/function/comfort for a relatively small price. It had nothing to do with what people are willing to pay for the used watch. Buy a fucking ETF or something >>>/biz/

>>17718413
You missed the point, numbnuts.

Spotted this banger at a job yesterday. Guess this corporation pays pretty well...

>>17718413
>relatively small price
Nigga, grand seiko costs as much as a used car

>>17718426
$45k-ish?

>>17718361
>great value”

Value is subjective.
GS go for 5000$ and offer the features nobody else does.
How much would a Rolex with a snowflake dial and hi-beat movement cost? If it even existed probably 50000$ at retail.

The Japanese watches seem to generally cost 1/10th of their swiss equivalents.

can anyone ID this watch?

>>17718431
>snowflake dial
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005005461461248.html

>hi-beat movement
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005001912523921.html

>>17718149
Nice, love the duoface

>>17718433
>Thin
>Huge
>Lugs are welded to the case
>Long white word logo

It's definitely a citizen.
Looks like this one in different color.

>>17718434
Yikes man, I don't know what that movement is but the dial is certainly not Seiko. Not even Orient.

i see there was a discussion about sizes in the last thread... i have 16.6 cm wrist (6.5 inch) and IMO watch will look good as long as it is not more than 13mm thick and lug2lug is less than 48mm. that being said, there is a considerable difference in comfort when wearing 42mm diameter, 48mm lug2lug compared to 36mm diameter 44.5 lug2lug (datejust 36)
they both look fine on the wrist, but if anything brings back smaller size watches it will be comfort rather than looks

>>17718443
Can't be for the simple reason the side profile of it isn't that rounded. Notice how the lugs flow from the sides rather than the top like your pics do.

>>17718001
because fp journe is richard mille of normal looking watches and chronometre blue is least bad looking fp journe

>>17718386
I buy Vacheron only because I like the maltese cross logo.

Just got this from 1984

>>17718491
Cool.

>>17718468
Post your vc then

>>17718503
I have two.

(do not bully.)

>>17718510
Please tell me how much they cost individually.

>>17718510
You don't buy shit retarded tranny, your rich parents do.
>>17718511
You'd have to wait for him to ask his mom.

Post what you are wearing today.

Pic related, I like my Timex Peanuts watches.

>>17718511
$24,000 and $45,000.

>>17718510
replicas lol

every time

>>17718518
Thanks. Not bad.

>>17718519
isn't that the infamous "very big allowance" EDC poster?

>>17718522
Yeah it is that very same piece of shit, you can recognize him because he's the only one that has a 4chan pass lmfao.

>>17718510
I don't like the Fartimony but the Cornes de Vache is very nice.
Are these real or fake like this anon >>17718519 is saying?

>>17718468
Will you buy any more?

>>17718263
>>17718268
All he used it for was
>timin mah steaks boiling wog water noodles
like all boomers lol

Is 15mm too thick for a watch?

>>17718417
How?

>>17718429
I just gave the definition of "great value" for a watch, I haven't said anything about that Grand Seiko. My point was that a watch can be great value even if it goes for half MSRP in the used marker

Omega won

>>17718426
shitty fake
hence the potato pic

>>17718539
Depends.
If it's a chronograph perpetual calendar tourbillon it's pretty thin.
If it's a 3 hands then it's THICC as fuck yeah

>>17718542
That omega's not the same as the swatch slave of today. Shame what happened to them.

>>17718542
based

>>17718544
It's a chronograph. I'm primarily worried about it feeling thick and bumping into things.

>>17718547
15mm for a chronograph is quite thick.

>>17718542
The fuck is this old creep?

>>17718516
omega cucks pay 100% over retail for this lol

>>17718539
Yes. Watches that thick are honestly stupid. The most annoying and sloppy looking thing is how they interacr with cuffs, be it a shirt, a cardigan or a sweatshirt.

Cop the memewatch cope?
It's palladium coated

>>17718530
The GS looks like it was brushed and polished at one of Casio's China factories. Indeces on the left hand side VC are not spread evenly (you can see it especially with the hour indeces). The printing of numerals on the chrono VC is inconsistent and sloppy.

>>17718553
Rolexfags only know rappers and ball players?

>>17718558
Yeah now tell me, he has masonic rings lmfao so I assume it's some kid fucker?

>>17718532
Yes. I contacted them about the newer small overseas, but they told me they haven't started the production of those. But that will be my next one.

>>17718556
Are you sure? What's the reference number?

>>17718560
I know you know who this is

>>17718557
The pic is very blurry.
Do they even make fakes of Grand Seiko?

>>17718563
No clue. Guess you don't either.

>>17718562
Can you send me $20k please?

>>17718564
>The pic is very blurry
Doesn't matter in terms of the points made, all visible in the pic.

>Do they even make fakes of Grand Seiko?
Brother they make fakes of $100 Casio watches. Are you new here?

>>17718566

>>17718102
>bought my rolex a few months ago
>have been wearing the ever living shit on it
>i WILL get it repolished when i service it with a new bracelet
wear your damn jewelry, if you're to the point where you think you might need to sell it for money later on you're not ready for the watch

>>17718570
Tell me your favorite anime then I'll make a decision within seconds.

>>17718561
2628-5120

>>17718574
Based. People who don't get their watch refinished "i like the scratches" are mega cope

>>17718575
>if you're to the point where you think you might need to sell it for money later on you're not ready for the watch

This could happen to anybody at any time. This life is futile. You could be a billionaire and lose most of your money in a single day from a bad investment, deal, fraud, scam, natural disaster, recession, hack, robbery et cetra.

>>17718562
Any reason why the smaller one?
That patrimony isn't exactly a classically sized dress watch.

>>17718575
Yawara

>>17718582
May as well live in the moment and worry about that when the time comes rather than prepping over it with a watch. Have an emergency fund or anything feasible than caring if microscratches will cost you a meal lol

>>17718580
unfortunately this is one of those things where if enough people think it is, it is.

>>17718578
Interesting, never heard of it before.

>>17718592
Old vintage models, sure. But the average Oyster Perpetual 2000s or 2000s Explorer is never going to reach vintage level pricing

>>17718592
Patina always looks like shit. Need a tetanus shot to wear the watch.

>>17718575
I don't watch anime, sorry.

Speaking of patina I just learned about the Citizen 1938. Sterling case quartz watch for under 100 bucks. Most of them are scratched to shit though

>>17718575
>your favorite anime

Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei

>>17718266
>best ""value""
>loses half of it the moment you walk out the store
keke

Grand S_O_Y_K_O is a joke.

>>17718616
even tag huehues and longines lose less values than grand seiko nowadays, it's truly a sight to behold

>>17718616
>>17718617
Just buy them used then

>>17718431
>Value is subjective.
No it isn't. Value is agreed upon in the free market.
Your watch isn't worth shit if nobody is willing to even buy it.

>b-b-but muh grandfathers [insert quartz shitter here] is invaluable
Good luck finding literally one (1) person on the market who agrees with you.

>>17718413
Delusional. If Grand Seiko provided
>looks, function and comfort
as you claim the deprecation of it's value wouldn't be so abysmal. The reason nobody is buying a second hand Grand Seiko anywhere near retail prices is because a Grand Seiko is a really bad fucking deal and you're getting shit value for the amount of money you're paying for it.

>>17718580
I like to keep my shit pristine, but once it gets scratched I want it to look like it went through a war
That's what makes it MY car/gun/watch

I don't understand valuing other people's patina tho

>>17718631
>No it isn't. Value is agreed upon in the free market.
>Your watch isn't worth shit if nobody is willing to even buy it.

My Miata is probably worth $6000, but you'd have to pay me at least $10,000 to sell it. So yeah, it is subjective.

>>17718636
>>My Miata is probably worth $6000
Post it? Which year?

>>17718638
1991

>>17718641
burgerpunk neighborhood

>>17718644
Yeah I moved out of there
Cheap, easy living places are where people go to die

>>17718592
Left's original dial is in 10/10 condition; obviously that's going to matter more than the case being polished.

>>17717899
Explain this

>>17718662
Two different designers working on the same watch without effective communication.

>>17718662
What are you trying to show here?
The red line isn't actually centered/corner to corner and the green line is at the 1/3 point

>>17718669
Why is the sub second dial not oriented at the same angle as the main dial?

>>17718582
I was served an eviction notice for a house I was renting (the owner wanted to sell) and wanted to buy a house rather than go into the now insane rental market but didn’t have enough cash to cover the whole deposit. Cars and watches were stupidly hot so I sold my car and watches, bought a hatchback and a house. I don’t think watches are a good long term investment but that flash in the pan worked out for me

>>17718672
I would assume one of two reasons:

1. Mechanical complication - not enough space to orient the gear train in such a way to have it rotated to the same degree, and they decided not to put in the extra effort to make it work.

2. The angle at which you view the watch when it's on your wrist isn't naturally 45 degrees like the main dial is offset, and they split the difference to give them both equally offset appearances and create more visual balance while reading it.

>>17718683
No, it’s just an oversight. The subsecond can be oriented anyway you want. It’s just a rotating pinion. It’s not like the hour and minute hands which need to move in concert

>>17718631
>If Grand Seiko provided
>looks, function and comfort
>as you claim the deprecation of it's value wouldn't be so abysmal
This is wrong. Repeating it won't make it true. The connection is just not there. Buy the best value refrigerator, computer keyboard, pair of headphones, ecc. and try to resell them. None holds their value. Just because some watches hold their value because of some social phenomenon tied to scarcity and prestige doesn't mean that's a benchmark all watches should be measured against. It makes no sense. Again, you are thinking about a financial instrument, not a watch

>>17718683
>1. Mechanical complication - not enough space to orient the gear train in such a way to have it rotated to the same degree, and they decided not to put in the extra effort to make it work.
All they had to do is print the numbers differently.

>>17718127
>another anon here confirmed 50m wr is adequate sealing against ejaculate. wank on it with pride
you really shouldnt cum on a watch unless it has at least 200m of wr. if you cum multiple times every day and it is your 3rd, 4th or later cum of the day maybe you can get away with 100m wr. at that point the size of the cum and the pressure at which it is shot out of the urinary meatus is greatly reduced hence the smaller wr level needed

>>17718701
so that's what all the dive watch wearers need their hundreds of meters of water resistance for

>>17718690
>The subsecond can be oriented anyway you want
>>17718696
>All they had to do is print the numbers differently.

But the dials have to be tied together at a specific ratio to get them to move at the correct speed, and to be able to set them together, and have the subseconds dial hit 1 at the minute marks, so if the main dial is driven by the main spring, the sub dial has to be driven by the main dial by some combination of gears that causes it to spin 43200 times during one revolution of of the hour hand, and only so many combinations of those gears of specific set sizes exist, and the center points of the dials are fixed, so you have to pick one of the sets of gears and stuff them in the movement in such a way that their outer radii touch the dial pinions.

Obviously if it's not intended to be timed together you can just spin the face, but if it's intended to be timed together, you can't.

>>17718592
what a bunch of fucking retards. better for me i guess if i ever decide to get a vintage watch

>>17718708
You’re really overthinking it. They literally could just print ‘60’ where it says ‘10’. They can print anything they want or even leave it blank. It doesn’t affect the functionality one iota.

>>17718737
No, they can't, because then when the minute hand is pointing exactly to 12:00:10, the sub dial will indicate 12:00:60. Unless the hands are individually settable, which I doubt.

>>17718692
>computer keyboard, pair of headphones
>luxury goods
Pick one retard.

>>17718742
>he doesn't know you can buy handmade enthusiast tier headphones and keyboards that cost more than Rolexes

>>17718740
When you assemble the watch, you place the hands lined up, then that’s how they’re synchronized.
It’s not that complicated.

>>17718740
You should buy a cheap Seiko and disassemble it. Then you’ll learn more about how watches are put together.

>>17718751
Oh, I was thinking that the pinion and hand was one piece, you're right.

>>17718742
Sorry, you are the retard. The relevant categorization here is consumer products vs. investement grade products.

>>17718754
Lol.

Now, what IS actually neat about that watch is how they repositioned the subseconds. Usually, they will be either at 180 or 90 degrees from the crown.

>>17718760
You’re being sarcastic, I presume?

>>17718757
>Investment
>Product

Watches make for a really shitty investment. And if you are looking to maximize your return you wouldn't be wearing that watch, at that point you're just a scalper and not a good one.

You know what a smart scalper bought? The gas futures before the Ukrainian war, and quickly made some Bitcoin tier returns.

And there you are with a scratched up watch hoping to sell it some day.

>>17718757
I bought a limited run of keycaps off GeekHack for $400 and they're worth $500 now
Checkmate

Does anyone know if there's any conceivable difference between the 5600 movements and the full steel G-Shock movements. You can get 5600s with the tough solar multi and Bluetooth features and all that same stuff so I can't think of a good reason to get the same circuit board with a few extra millimeters of steel in the housing where resin worked just fine if it's all the same guts you can get mods for.

>>17718772
Dude it's all the same digital toy watch for small children you just pay thousands for the look. I hope you're not wearing this shit past high school.

Could anyone who owns a Cartier Tank Must Large share its lug-to-lug dimensions?

Despite an extensive online search, I've been unable to locate these particular measurements. Please note that I'm seeking information for the Large model, not the XL.

Moreover, I'm deliberating between the small or large model to suit my slightly curved wrist, which measures 16cm.

>>17718763
>Watches make for a really shitty investment.
I swear these threads are so fucking full of retards. That's exactly my point, and the point I have been trying to make in my past 3 posts.

>>17718764
Yeah, keep cherry-picking

>>17718775
Yeah that's my point I really like the titanium G-Shock from the steel series. That's 1500. That's bull shit. Then I see the entire 5600 series has that after market case you can buy for like 50 bucks so you can basically the same watch for barely 250-300, sometimes less. I just felt like double checking if there's anything crazy stronger or cooler feature about the expensive steel series. I highly doubt it but just checking

>>17718772
that display is going to give the owner some serious legibility issues
the only good inverted g screen is the gold/greeny one.
inverted silver/white is asking for frustration

>>17718782
Well my plan was to put the case on this.

Rollie

>>17718794
Or this

>>17718780
>I just felt like double checking if there's anything crazy stronger or cooler feature about the expensive steel series.
Well I can think of one thing that might or might not annoy you - look at the backlight here:

https://youtu.be/jFnRgJ2bDvQ?t=317

Some of the cheap models have a fucking TERRIBLE backlight that just illuminates one side and looks like utter shit, so if you want to pay thousands for a better backlight...

>>17718794
>What time is it?
>weddy wed o'clock!

>>17718800
https://youtu.be/5AM_az5i4sE?t=428

It's the same on this one too. However...

https://youtu.be/IMMwkEK8wjI?t=604

This one is a giant fucking turd for $300. Funnily enough the $70 one is still good. I think that one is discontinued though.

>>17718801
Lol.
Just saw this was a thing too and came in my pants since it looks like it would fit.

>>17718806

>>17718776
go to the store and try it on?

>>17718809
Nonaccessible at the moment whereas a simple response with dimensions would suffice.

>be Vacheron
>release the 222 in the late 70s as an obvious Nautilus/Royal Oak cope
>people hate it
>huge commercial flop
>watch is quickly discontinued
>45 years later
>Vacheron release the exact same watch
>people now call it a work of art and "legendary"
>7 years waiting list
What a scam

I like the tag huehue carrera and aquaracer but I already have a rolex so any more watches is a waste of money

>>17718822
i love the blue overseas more than the naut/royal oak, the naut is fugly

>>17718824
>Rolex owner
>Has to be told what to buy
>Is also a poorfag
Like pottery.

this is nice

>>17718832
>Has to be told what to buy
If that was the case I'd buy a boring ass omega Reddit master
>Poor
You're right I'm on the verge of homelessness because I lost all my money being a poltard and buying trump nfts :(

>>17718840
Because it's a 62MAS copy.

>>17718542
Unironically, one of the very few pictures I have ever seen that shows what the X-33 looks like on the wrist and next to normal watches.

Doesn't look bad at all, looks fairly wearable.

17718536
>being this retarded
>Ike still won WWII
/pol/ppet still seething

>>17718826
I've always thought that the nautilus is ugly, and that the aquanaut is fugly.
It's the ears of the former; I'd want to cut them off. I suppose then you'd have a piaget polo lol
It's always flabbergasted me that they've both become beyond hype. Insanity. And all the QC issues associated with the nautilus that nautilus buyers, not patek buyers, were saddled with because patek decided to increase output without an increase in the required number of trained watchmakers to sustain such growth. Rush that stainless steel shit right through. Complicated steel bracelet that needs extra attention? Nah they won't notice shit, besides we have our Patek Philippe Seal! That proves we're tops in QC!

The actual RO, the GP Laureato, the VC Overseethe. Yes. I'd even like the Chopard alpine eagle if only the date window weren't in that retarded 4:30 spot so many ruin their watches with. The other RO copes all > pp's one.

>>17718553
you might recognize him with his suit on

>>17718856
An actor? Aren't they striking?

Is there a more cope watch?

>>17718870
Grand Seiko entire line.

>>17718870
Moonswatch, the ultimate and final COPE

>>17718870
PRX?

>>17718575
Kaguya Love is War
do i get 20k?

>>17718922
Even Costco call the speedy the "sped master" LOL

>>17718662
>has two obvious defined points set up for him
>still draws the line in the wrong spot
ngmi

>>17718931
more like
>doesn't know how to turn off angle snapping

>>17718840
why doesnt citizen make a sports/divers watch like this with eco drive, 39mm diameter and reasonable thickness?

>>17718938
Because that would make too much sense.

>>17718938
citizen could make anything they want but as another anon pointed out, every design would have to be approved by some out of touch middle manager who would rather not rock the boat before his retirement in 3 years. it would probably lose them money just having the meetings to figure out which sub brand to put the model under

>>17718938
>>17718948
Actually I think they do make reasonably sized eco drive radio controlled JDM sports watches somewhere in the 500-1000$ price segment

>>17717910
it also comes with a free mercedes logo

>>17718219
being a fat neckbeard omegay wearer doesn't make you masculine anon

>>17718952
i did a search of sakura and anything <40mm (apart from the citizen one) are lower line like reguno, there are one or two 'the citizen's in 38mm but they're stodgy GS ripoffs with ugly design
>power reserve on a solar
the pmd56 or the more basic field watches are ok

>>17718961
>ugly
better than grand seiko

Poop in pants I wear omega that's funny

>>17718927
Why is it so cheap?

>>17718772
>>17718780
It totally depends on the level of quality you want. The titanium ones are, well, titanium with a sapphire crystal. If you don't want titanium or sapphire you can get the steel one. If you don't want a steel band and bezel you get the GW5000 or other metal cased model. If you want the case in resin too you can get a DW5600. It's not about the features, it's about the material and construction, just like any other brand.

>>17719028
that's normal price for that speedy

>>17719040
Cool. I thought it would be more expensive based on how much watch prices have gone up.

>>17719028
>>17719040
It's not the proper speedy, looks like an automatic / reduced with a dark blue dial + date on 6

Looks like an older model of the speedy 38, which is why it's cheap

>>17719047
says 40mm on the tag

>>17719047
it's an older 40 mm model, but it's still brand new

>>17719052
>>17719054
ye disregard me im blind af

>>17717952
>3 hands sports watch
Audemars Piguet Royal Oak
>Diver
Rolex Submariner
>Chronograph
A.lange & Sohne Datograph
>Business watch
Vacheron Constantin Patrimony
>Ceo watch
Patek philippe 6102(pic related)
>Wild card
Richard mille RM11

>>17719059
>What time is it?
Uh...the belt of Orion?

Hello

>>17719077
Goddamn that dial is gorgeous. Not to mention the whole thing looks almost dead mint.

>>17719077
Looks like a coaster at my grandma's house

>>17719077
based poo watch enjoyer

>>17719066
LMAO my fucking sides

>>17718001
I think it looks beautiful and clean but both vibrant and classy. Haven't seen it IRL but apparently the dial gives a subtle, ghostly reflection as well. It's my number 1, and I only have to look at it to know.

do you support swatch group, /wt/?

new thread

>>17719187
>>17719187
>>17719187

>>17719077
kino

>>17718616
Great! Show me where I can buy that model for about $2500?