/fa/ - Fashion

Reposting from late last thread.

I don’t have a G Shock but I kinda want one for a thrasher watch. Should I get the cheap ass Chinese/Thailand DW5600E or the much nicer made in Japan GW5000U?

FUCK JANNIES
FUCK QUARTZ OWNERS
FUCK POORFAGS

>>17703416
Sorry, but quartz is objectively superior.

i've got a 1 year old orient diver and when i shake the watch the oscillating weight seems to make a creaking sound. how to fix?

>>17703386
>>17703458
The main difference in the day to day is how it feels on the wrist. The DW-5600 is all plastic and light, the GW-5000 has a steel case and screwdown back which feels weighty and solid. Ideally you would try them both and choose but if that's not an option get the 5600, it will get the job done. The 5000 should be an informed decision, you want the metal case with DLC coated back and a softer band. Personally I like the anniversary squares because I like the construction of the 5000 with the basic module from the 5600.

>>17703427
bin it and get a quartz

>>17703426
Depends on what you're talking about.

F91w Chad reporting in. Picked up an f84w for dressier occasions.
Let me guess... You 'need' more.

BTW no matter how much money you have paying tens of thousands of dollars for a polished peice of metal that tells the time is cucked beyond belief. BRO BUT YOU DON'T GET IT THE FINISHING BRO PATEK PHILLIP ACTUALLY POLISH EVERY PEICE TO A MIRROR FINISH EVEN THE STUFF YOU CAN'T SEE BRO. I'll only relent if you have a few acres of land, a chest drawer full of meat, a generator and some type of gun. Otherwise enjoy being the dumbest of all consooomers on earth

Sers, i got my bluesy yesterday. 16613
Bless Vishnu on this day. i love it.

>>17703767
Post it

>>17703747
I need a dive bezel for timing. You're right about paying stupid money for a watch, though.

>>17703772
why no stopwatch

9 hours since regulation, and my watch is +/-0. Might've done it this time, lads.

>>17703774
I really despise digital watch buttons. I've used one digital watch ever that wasn't absolutely intolerable for changing functions, and it was a Timex Datalink USB that had a digital crown. But the watch itself was just too big for my tiny wrists, so despite having the best module ever put into a watch, I had to give up on it.

A dive bezel lets me set a timer in 2 seconds.

>>17703780
so divers still use wrist watches

>>17703747
F-91W is a nostalgiabait for dumb boomers and 20yo boomers
A168 or any model with tough solar is the shit

>>17703767
Congrats, post her

Here’s my second favourite watch after my Oris

>>17703807
Well fuck

>>17703798
Problem with the tough solar Casios is that they're for Gorilla arms.

The appeal with the F91W and its variants is that they're <40mm.

>Hey anon, what is the exact time please?
>it's uhhh.... uuuh wait a minute.... ah shit, I'll just check my phone

>>17703816
>anon, the train is leaving at 10:12 precisely and we're 5 minutes away from the train station, do you think we'll be able to make it?
>uuuuhhhh.... I uuh, let me think for a moment

>>17703816
Mr Jones watches are more readable than this.

>>17703816
>Hey anon, what is the exact time
7:34:40
>>17703821
>the train is leaving at 10:12 precisely and we're 5 minutes away from the train station, do you think we'll be able to make it?
no

>>17703807
Is the dial crooked?

>>17703816
I can still read this pretty easily but >>17703821 takes me a while.

fucking only us ad is out of these fucking things

>>17703821
>>17703816
pathetic

Based Vostok enjoyer.

>>17703871
What's your wrist size?

>>17703816
>>17703821
These are based because they're embracing the fact that watches are just jewelry.

>>17703888
Oh you need the time? I'm not sure, let me use my minute repeater to figure it out :)

>>17703888
>These are based because they're embracing the fact that watches are just jewelry.
Yeah you know what you be SUPER BASED?
H. Moser selling you a watch without any movement.
Can you imagine? It's a watch but it doesn't give you the time.
Now that would be based.

>>17703892
That's called a bracelet and they already exist.

>>17703895
haha epic bro
I bet watchfags are on suicidal watch right now
lmao H. Moser is so based
THEY MADE A CHEESE WATCH LMAO

>>17703900
Seething poorfag.

>>17703901
No no you don't get it, I'm with you bro
H. Moser is trolling the whole watch industry that's so fucking funny bro
Like did you know they made a 30k€ Apple Watch?
haha can you imagine the seething at Rolex and Patek?
That's genius bro

>>17703904
Are you this mad because Moser is both more clever and more competent than whatever your favorite brand is?

Is this the watch thread?

>>17703906
Nooooo bro I love Moser I swear
picrel is my favorite watch.
That's so fucking clever and creative. Great watch.

>>17703392
Does anyone knownwhat watch he's wearing?

>>17703713
watches

>>17703816
>>17703821
>He can't read analog time
Lmao, kys

>>17703871
Love it, but blue watches aren't my thing, and that dial needs more cyrillic

>>17703914
What the hell is that thing in the middle? A pill? An eraser? A candy?

>>17703930
LMAO YOU JUST GOT PWNED BY H. MOSER BROOOO

>>17703932
damn you really got mindbroken by moser huh

>>17703932
That'll be $20k.

Why are we talking about Moser, they’re a tiny nothing brand

There’s plenty of independents making actual watches you meme loving fucks

>>17703936
>Why are we talking about Moser, they’re a tiny nothing brand
>There’s plenty of independents making actual watches you meme loving fuck

Last thread one anon was considering buying a Moser
Another anon insisted that we're all poor and no one owns a Moser
Almost immediately someone else popped up wearing one
It's been non-stop seething since.

>>17703936
I think because the meme that ranks all the brands puts them in the top tier. We need to remove them from the top tier and also some other brands that make unoriginal or useless overpriced watches.

>>17703812
Your wrist is too small for a baby-g?

>>17703930
It's an eraser.
It was a collaboration with some shitty "street art" meme artist known for massacring nice watches with stupid pixel art hands.

>>17703944
Damn, that's dumb.

Soviet quality

>>17703892
>>17703904
>>17703914
>>17703932
Based. Meme/joke moser is bad. It's just another old brand name like lange or czapek bought by some investors to use their "history". The real joke is the people that like these puppet brands.

>>17703952
Moser makes people seethe because they don't take themselves too seriously.
Their buyers make poorfags upset because poorfags never lack for things to be mad about.

>>17703952
Big big facts

Zombie brand below 2k? Shitter

Zombie brand asking 30k for a Daniel wellington? These are my brothers

>>17703807
>>17703771
Sers, pls disregard my little girl wrists. But I got this with box and papers, it is 26 years old. Bezel and Dial is ghosting to a nice tropical look.

>>17703957
>smol dial
>smol hands
>bad legibility
one of the worst designs . mad how popular it is . if i was a diver i'd never wear it,

>>17703957
Gorgeous. Well wear friend

>>17703960
>nearly three minutes before a poorfag started seething
/wt/, you disappoint me.

>>17703960
Ugh! I know.. I know. I'm just gonna wear it... HAHAHAHA

>>17703966
>NO YOU NEED TO JUSTIFY MY SHITTY PURCHASE
>MY AD GAVE ME THIS AFTER I GAVE HIM A BLOWJOB IM SO SPECIAL
I think r/Rolex is more your speed bro ngl

>>17703952
>czapek
This one is probably the most disgusting.
>let's revive some unknown brand vaguely related to Patek that's been dead for almost 200 years
>let's make the most uninspired and awkward looking integrated sports watch
>that would be 25k!
I have no idea who's the demographic for this.

>>17703983
>I have no idea who's the demographic for this.
people with more money than you, for starters...

>Sapphire crystal
>Ceramic bezel
>Milled clasp
>Solid bracelet links
>Automatic
>+/-1.8 sec per day

How much did it cost me? $56

>>17703957
oof, not a good look

>>17703994
None of that shit matters except to autists

Watches are emotional, not logical

They’re inherently obsolete, only beauty and joy of use matters

>>17704001
This anon gets it.

>>17703994
and yet you'd still rather have a Rolex.

>>17704001
Everything he mentioned is emotional not logical. Clearly he find joy in his watch being superior in his eyes.

>>17703944
An anon owns an Omega with an hourglass small seconds hand made by the same guy and it looks ok.

>>17703983
Guy who designed this zapeck jumped ship for chrward and designed their integ steel sports cope. It's basically your pic related but for $1200.

>>17703983
All these revival brands exist for the same reason, for people to go "well ackshyually..." while they tell you about the "history" of the brand and how it's better than the watch they actually want but can't get because they are still on the waiting list.

>>17704016
I would take an Antarctique over an entry-level Nautilus or Royal Oak or Overseas 99 times out of 100.

>>17704019
no, I don't believe you would unless you already owned them
don't lie to yourself

>>17704019
Over a Royal Oak, yes. Nautilus? No.

>>17704020
Are you really so retarded and deluded you think you can mind read anonymous people on the internet?

>>17704025
This thread is mostly 85 IQ poorfags getting riled up over watches they will never be able to buy.

>>17704001
>only beauty and joy of use matters
I get a lot of joy from using it, it "needs" me to keep working properly. All the other stuff is a plus and it's great to have it for such a low price.

>>17704025
>defensive
>seethe
you don't have to pretend here
no one to impress
just tell the truth

>>17704025
People are simple and easy to predict. You are simple. Doesn't take a mind reader to state definitively that any moron who says
>no I don't want the original all the cool kids have I want this ill-conceived cope nobody's heard of or gives two shits about because I'm a special free thinking snowflake
is lying through their seething teeth. This isn't reddit; you have no username nor history. It's okay to want things that are popular.

Hi watch bros. Help me out, my birthday is coming soon and my gf female wants to give me a watch. I'm not sure what to choose so here goes.
> Your budget
250 eurodollars
> Watch type
Field watch
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
Don't care
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
Don't care
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
Nato or just a regular strap, no leather or metal
> Wrist size or desired watch size
Girly barbie wrists, so 36 to 38mm

I was looking at the Boldr venture with a cream face but any suggestions are highly welcome.

First time posting to this board full of /fa/ggots, how did i do on my first watch purchase since i was 18

t. 27 yo /pol/fag

Hope to get the new Omega Ultra Deep that will be in boutique in the coming month

>>17704050
The watch won't stop white women from wanting BBC, so.

>>17704050
Nice handwatch, fatty. A bit homophobe, you might be gay, bro.

>>17704046
blue Presage

>>17704051
Deshawn will be rockin' my watch in a few weeks when he rolls me out of town for it, no problem

>>17704055
>blue Presage
Thanks anon but it's a bit "classy" looking for my day to day wear, I wanted something a bit more like a Seiko 5 sport or the pic I uploaded

@17704054

>>17704050
fat wrist

>>17704057
just get a casio , it will keep better time and always work and if you hit you would not care
if you dump more money you must see a watch in person

>>17704063
I have a gshock 5600db and an f91w, wanted an analog one for a change.

>>17704050
>literal jewish watch brand
>/pol/ fag

every single day i realize you retards are just like tankie/champaign internet socialists. just two sides of the same coin.

>>17704050
>fat wrist
>Omega
>passive aggressive behavior
Let me guess, American?

/wt/ did you take your watch outside this weekend?
>>17704059
This chubbo sure didn't, look at the size of this one

>>17704050
>omega
>fat
>led
>pol
>27
>toys
everything amazingly checks out

>>17704059
turn lights off

>>17704064
you can't get a nice seiko for that money
your options: skx007 or escapement time from china

>>17704059
No watch will ever make you un-fat.

>>17704059
This is the hand of a morbidly obese person.
Can you even see your dick?

>>17704068
Americans are a very tiny minority on /pol/. Europeans probably outnumber them greatly there, and both are absolutely dwarfed by people who look like this

>All these (You)s
Why did i ever post BBC and BLACKED threads to /pol/ when i can just farm you lot

It's really shocking how bad these threads have gotten. The obnoxious ignorant poorfags were always present but I'd say they now make up 95% of posts.

>>17704046
Hello, fren, i am the fatty with the Omega, buy a nice Casio or Seiko with the money, a nice Gshock would do for that amount too

>>17704085
The smart people went to WUS. It's full of retarded boomers but at least they know a bit about watchmaking. This thread has just been sour grapes posting for years now.

>>17704085
aah yes, the classic "this place used to be better back in the day" shit I see everywhere on 4chan

>>17703957
I love the sunburst Rolex models, a shame the green sunburst is $3k more than the bluesy for some reason

Dudes. Rate the recent Seiko 5 1968 reissue.

>>17704096
On a scale of would to would not, I rate it would not

>>17704088
Yes, newfag, this thread used to be good when it was on /g/, then it was moderately decent for a couple years on /fa/, then the good posters left and you have what we have now. And yes, 4chan was much better back in the day.

>>17704086
Cheers anon, I lve already had a Seiko before but Ill look at more models. Also, you're not fat.

>>17704087
This is correct

>>17704096

>>17704103
>mogged by citizen AGAIN
JUST fuck Seiko's shit up

>>17703747
>chest drawer full of meat
Why the fuck would I put meat in a chest drawer? Meat needs to be refrigerated dumb fuck. You’re gonna get sick dude I’m serious.

>>17704098
>this thread used to be good when it was on /g/
Please go back there, you whiny faggot

>>17703816
VERY RARE

>>17704108
You gonna cry about it bitch boy?

Anybody has a wrist shot of their ~31mm watch?

>>17704115
smallest i can do is 34m

>>17704086
>250
>nice soiko
lol

>>17704098
>4chan was much better back in the day
It wasn't. I have been here since 1998 and it has always sucked.

>>17703807
>>17703816
>>17703821
>>17703891
>>17703904
>>17703914
>>17703957
>>17703983
>>17704050
Only good watches in the thread. Everything else is steaming, sickening, despicable dogshit. The only redeeming qualities they have are that they are disposable.

>>17704114
About what? You're the one complaining.
I think these threads are great. 50% of the posts are mine by the way.

>>17704103
cool but hard to tell the time

>>17704120
You can get like 3 noice seiko 5’s for that money. Not that you should, one will last for decades

>>17704123
Literally every single board on this site has gotten worse over the last decade and most of it can be chalked up to bad moderation philosophies.

>>17704067
Omega is not Jewish lol what nigga

>>17704046
Save the money and get this.
>36mm
>cream full lume dial
>quartz so you don't have to deal with cheapomech cope
>comes on a onepiece nato, change to whatever you want
>offshoot of lorus' attempt to sell watches to the british mod
>50bucks: save the rest of the money for something worthwhile for the two of you fags
Done. Buy it. Next question please.

>>17704050
>>17704059
Nice watch king. Check out the rubber strap, it’s seriously comfy and doesn’t downplay the gorgeous lugs.

>>17704131
I agree with you on the moderation, this site was much better when it was full of cp.

>>17704131
>be (You) back then
>discover 4chan at a young age
>enjoy the fresh shitposting and memes
>decide to stick around
>be (You) today
>30 something years old
>has been arguing and shitposting for years
>feeling of freshness has long disappeared
>"DURRRR 4CHAN WAS BETTER BACK THEN"
You just grew tired of 4chan retard.
Leave your basement and find a girlfriend (you won't).

>>17704133
>Omega is not Jewish lol what nigga
I have bad news for you anon

>>17704085
>NOOOOO ANON SHAT ON MY SHIT TASTE AND BAD OPINIONS SAVE ME REDDIT!!1 REEEEEEEEEEE
go back

>>17704098
nah when it was on /g/ it turned from rare casio and movement discussion (actual technology) to poser shit and within weeks
at least here it fits the general discourse of the board (faggot poser shit)

>>17704128
except he's not in usa where watches are cheap

>>17704145
What’s the bad news anon? Just because someone is ugly doesn’t mean they’re automatically Jewish.

>>17704050
>poltards too poor and ugly for a rolex
not surprising

>>17704155
How does it feel being the biggest gay crab in the bucket of homosexual crabs?

It's over, guys. After a mere 14 hours, my watch has lost a whole second. You'd think that in 2023, mechanical movements could at least do as well as a 5 dollar watch, an F91w is rated for 1 second every 48 hours. This hunk of shit is over 3 times worse, COSC my ass.

>>17704154
You’re arguing with the resident schizo, it’s really not worth it.

>>17704154
The Hayek are semites. Genetically jewish.
They're greasy, loud, untrustworthy and have horrible ethics. Which god they is an insignificant detail.

>>17704159
Majority of these replies are just me replying to myself. You’re not even real.

>>17704149
This is why I agree with watch threads being moved here. What you laid out inevitably happened every time in short order, so there's no point. Enjoy the rare gems between shitposts. I miss the vintage accutron talk though.
Not that /g/ is any better in general. Worse than this board most of the time.

>>17704161
Lebanese are Arabs
Jews are Semites
lrn2phrenology, fag

>>17704142
it really was ruined by the 2016 elections
I was already jaded at that point and could still see the shift happen
we don't even produce memes anymore, at this point all the internet memes entering the mainstream come from twitch, twitter and the likes

>>17703951
Why are your nails painted, are you a girl?

>>17704149
>on /g/ it was full of neckbeard stemlord tards
good riddance

>>17704170
I think the end came in 2014 with gamergate and the reddit invasion from that time.
I don't remember when that fucking frog or wojack shit first took hold but they eventually killed all other memes. However, does that not make it the superior maymay? Infinitely repurpose-able? Double edged sword. Killed the need for creativity.
By 2013 this board was still fun, that's all I remember. I'm only here out of habit since my homeboard was destroyed by /b/ in 2010.

>>17704098
what about leaving home you fucking fat retard, crying over "muh good times" of a fucking web site.

trump lost
omega won with the moonswatch
deal with it!

>>17704190
YWNBAW

poltards are so fucking cringe holy fuck

>>17704194

>>17704059
>I am an epic Gigachad member of the MASTER RACE
>Please ignore I haven't been able to see my dick in 5 years and I'm addicted to Mcdonald's

>>17704212
me on the right

>>17704212

>>17704214
he's checkin that thick ass OUT

How are people poor AND fat? just stop spending so much money on doordash lol

Is this an Invicta? Or a shiteling

>>17704046
Baltany has some really sweet looking 36mm field watches

>>17704055
Why do you retards keep recommending dress watches to people asking for field watches? Do you even read the posts you reply to?

>>17704230
dress watches with shit crystals too, my presage was worn like 20 times and has a scratch

>>17703892
Sorry this is as close as we can get.

wtf I hate casio nao

>>17704242
Mine has one as well, but the upside is that the crystal is soft enough that the scratch will buff out slightly over time and won't be so obvious anymore. Still, in current year every watch should have sapphire.

>>17704246
boohoo cracker

>>17704228

>>17704257
leaning toward breitling

>>17704249
DASRACIS

>>17704246
I love casio salamu aleikum

>>17704246
>now
this was part of their ad campaign over a decade ago.

>>17704050
/pol/iosister... i'm sorry to have to break it to you, but the only brand that's more homo is literally called "Homos" and it's run by bauhaus worshiping degenerates and members of the wef but at least those are actually made in germany while omega is mostly made in chyna..
you bought a gay chinese watch lmao

>>17703957
very nice.
congrats, and wear it in health.

>>17704280
lmao

>>17704280
>An happy event
>not even Omega in the pic
Nice ESL meme

>>17704055
lol this is a stupid suggestion

>>17704288
cope speedyfag
cope and get your rainbow gear on and dildo charged lol

>>17704292
Post your poorfag “collection”

>>17704096
Looks sorta cool, they've done a pretty good job with the design. Not my style though so would not eear.

>>17704295

>>17704257
It’s a glycine combat sub

Absolute shitter

>>17704125
Thanks kid

>>17704009
Ackhually

>>17704005
Love you brother

>>17703843
After some deliberation, no it is not

>>17704295
>he thinks being able to buy a penismoonmaster is a sign of wealth
lol
lmao
so cute you're almost rapeable

>>17704290
That's it?

>>17704317
What is going on here

I’ve recently come back to 4chan and you’re all acting like you’re from historical families

A couple years ago you were all white supremacists

What do you get out of this? I don’t understand the motivation

>>17704325
Don't worry anon, I'm still a white supremacist.

One watch was owned by the last emperor of china, the other the last emperor of vietnam.
Which is better?

>>17704330
rolex because it says rolex on it

>>17704330
The Patek because it doesn't have diamonds on it.

>>17704330
The patek has the more interesting dial. The large crown is nice too. I'm more curious as to what the patek looked like new though.

Would you rather get a cartier santos or a ronde AND a tank? (Both quartz). Because they’re the same price basically

>>17704312
Based
>>17704317
Still haven’t posted anything. Let’s see those Seikos anon

>>17704358
Neither. I'd get a Santos-Dumont.

>>17704358
If I had six grand and wanted a Cartier I’d get a 2000’s Galbee XL

The modern Santos is fucked and the 29mm Galbee/Carree are beautiful but wear too small for most

Or as the other anon said you could get a yellow or red gold hand wound santos durmont for around that price

>>17704325
This place got filled with poortards larping and unable to cope.

Slava Ukraini Vostokbros

>>17704325
It’s a bucket of homosexual crabs

>>17703747
I need the piece of shit to not fog up and die when used in wet environments like to time a sailing race start.
I need the piece of shit stopwatch to count more than an hour. (Hell, in fact I need multiple stopwatches but at least I got a timer and 5 alarms)
I need the piece of shit to not beep to everyone around me every time I press a button.
Since it's going to be my only watch, I want the piece of shit to not look completely childish no no in a business suit type of a more formal environment.
For me it's Casio Royale. (Ideally with SKXMOD to real steel & sapphire)
Only improvement I can think of is if all this somehow came in an A700 package. Also some small improvements to make the radar more visible: Make the inner ring hours only, the outer ring minutes only, and forgo the seconds.
Oh, Royale also has GMT. It's better tha on a Rolex, and I believe Patek too. Actually useful to deal with international customers that pop up once in a while.

Would you sex an orca?
I like this stupid thing. It's chunky and I haven't dived in years but it looks silly and I'm fond of dumb things.

>>17704414
If I had to do any animal, it’d be a dolphin

For me, it's the gold Speedmaster.

>>17703807
I really like this. It looks like someone put a new oyster braclet on an old datejust

>>17704453
Love it. Wish I wasn't a poorfag

>>17704453
Nice red bezel, very pretty watch

>>17704453
REEEEEEEE YOU CANT JUST OWN A SPEEDMASTER AND BE CONTENT ITS TOO BORING YOU NEED 13 IDENTICAL FUN SEIKOS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>17704473
Thanks for that. Really added value to the thread.

>>17704453
The green dial gold speedy is insanely beautiful

>>17704414
I have a pic on my pc back home it's called 'the blob' andit's thia watch but the indices are picrel.

>>17704406
Extremely based anon, you should be the CEO of casio. I especially agree on having everything in the A700 package. Normal watches thicker than 8mm are absurd in the current year

>>17704473
You're content with paying what you paid for a chinese watch? And if you bought the new reference, a chinese watch with an inferior movement?

>>17704501
Omegas are made in China now?

>>17704502
according to /wt/, which is never wrong, yes.

>>17704453
gold speedy is kino

Just wanted to stop by and say I love chronographs

massive newfag here, but is it true that mechanical watches with dates don't know if a month is 30 or 31 days? it's giving me an autism flare up because i already hate how 90% have a date complication ruining the 3 o'clock numeral or index. why do people settle for these subpar watches?

>>17704516
A regular date mechanism on any watch doesn't. If you want it to account for that you want an annual calendar. If you want it to also account for leap years then you want a perpetual calendar.

>>17704516
>with dates don't know if a month is 30 or 31 days?
Yes that's true

>>17704515
whats the best chrono in your opinion ?

>>17704517
>>17704518
criminal. if you can't do it properly, don't offer it. rolex seems to offer a lot of no date watches but then they come up with this
>5
>10
>3
>20
>25
>6
>35
>40
>9
>50
>55
>▲

>>17704526
picrel

>>17704526
Just get yourself an annual calendar if you can't be assed to adjust the date every other month.

Just went swimming in my dive watch
you nerds would never

>>17704414
We are currently at war with Orcas

>>17704501
>Swatch builds a gigantic new building for Omega in Biel, Switzerland to keep up with Chinese demand
>illiterate faggots on an anime fashion board thinks this means Omega is a Chinese watch

>>17704531
My Seamaster gets wet every day. Shower and sleep with it. Haven’t taken it in the ocean yet but it’s been in a few pools.

>>17704585
IM HEEEEEELIUM VALVING OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

>>17704516
Wait until you find out that you can break the movement if you try to change the date at a certain time of the night

>>17704502
It was discovered years ago that Swatch was getting Omega's bracelets, and perhaps other parts, made in china. Swatch run factories in asia and since the laws on what can legally be labelled as "swiss made" have an intentional loophole that allows chinese work to count as swiss, it's all too easy to assume that lower end swatch brands like certina, tissot etc., are basically entirely made in china and thus to worry about how far up the swatch ladder this cost cutting practice goes. How much of a basic ETA movement is made in swatch's chinese factory. Perhaps everything but the hairspring. It's known that ETA's "swiss" quartz modules are made in the swatch owned thailand factory. It's more or less an open secret in the industry.
The warning signs were there all the way back in the early 00's when Franck Muller was caught using, legally, russian movements as "swiss". At that time swatch's china operation wasn't operational so collectors shrugged that off as just another sign of FM's fall, not realizing how pervasive it was to become.

It wasn't until people started documenting getting bracelets direct from omega boutiques with easily removeable tags saying "made in china", which they were obviously not meant to be shown (while the bracelet is stamped "swiss") that collectors started to get nervous. Long time omega independent repairmen in america were also documenting how they were getting parts from swatch with the invoice stating origin: China.

Essentially, if Omega's bracelets are chinese, what else? Cases? Dials?Hands? Whole thing? Lower end brands are most likely entirely chinese and maybe only assembled in switzerland, if that. Wages are just too high for anyone to believe a lowly certina or tissot is actually swiss.

Basically, there's many reasons why say rolex has eclipsed omega in the eyes of collectors and the nebulous nature of the latter's true origin is one of them. This is behind Moser's seething at the disingenuous nature of "Swiss Made".

>>17704608
haha that must only apply to crappy vintage movements... right?

>>17704610
>there's many reasons why say rolex has eclipsed omega
When did this eclipsing occur? The late 70s? Quartz crisis?
You make it sound like this is a recent thing.

Rolex has stood head and shoulders over Omega for decades at the very least.

>>17704516
Analog quartz watches are the same.
Always have been. That why the humble Casio btfo of everything when it came out. Only quite expensive analog quartz watches have a perpetual date, with only 3 or 4 brands even offering such watches at all.

>>17704607
Kek. I like the wart. I will never saturation dive but it’s a cool feature.

>>17704610
Source: “trust me bro”

>>17704616
a neverending eclipse
an eternal mogging
the cuckaxial cemented omega's spot forever

>>17704625
Look it up. It's all still there online.
Back on /g/ omegafags were bullied mercilessly when all this came to light. It's all been forgotten now I guess.

>>17704630
Burden of proof is on you. I’ve seen the posts on WUS from boomers who claim they received a replacement part from China but that’s about it. The 60% rule is well known and applies to virtually every “Swiss” brand, including Rolex (who is actually British).

>>17704630
Interesting. I just received a replacement part for my speedy bracelet because I bent it like a retard and I don’t see anything saying made in China. Maybe some anons smarter than me can look up the sku or whatever

>>17704246
at least it's a lesbian couple

>>17704525
Datograph no contest.

>>17704281
thank u ser. I will.

>>17704610
Thank you bro.

>>17704635
If you want to know more, you can dig. Omega's not the only brand. Doxa was caught red handed using a chinese OEM for their entire watch line. I've spoonfed you enough. Convincing (you) is not worth the effort nor my intention.

But if anyone lurking ITT wants to buy a modern omega watch and part of your desire for it, or rather what you're willing to pay for it, stems in any part from the supposed "swissness" of its manufacture, then I cannot recommend them to you.
If you don't give a shit where it's made and you just want your Moonwatch or Bond Seamaster regardless then enjoy your upcoming purchase!

But if the notion of potentially paying swiss labor prices for cheaper, chinese labor priced handiwork rankles you even slightly, then I recommend holding off as the Swatch Group does not inspire trust due to its factory presence in places where labor is far cheaper than in Switzerland.

>>17704652
>posting proof of wild claims is spoonfeeding
Go tell reddit, fag.

>>17704656
See
>>17704630
Or just continue in ignorance if it makes you happier.

>>17704664
"look it up on /g/" means "I don't have jack shit"

you're the one making the claim, you fucking look it up dumb faggot

>>17704656
>>17704669
seething chinky watch boy lmao
bought the leddit bugman favorites has lingering doubts and lashes out lololol
grow up kid

>>17704610
I choose to believe this is all true because it confirms my bias, suck it omegacucks

>>17704677
Not even the same person dumb fuck. If you make wild claims and have zero evidence besides "find it yourself" it means you're full of shit. This place has gone so far down hill with the influx of mulatto zoomers, its ridiculous.

>>17704681
Why don't you trust this face, anon?
>>17704145

Vostok chads, my dirskie died today. What do I replace it with?

>>17704683
>implying that screenshot means shit when there's extensions
you can't cover up your shameful, niggerish display that easily
just keep enjoying your best chinese made watch and gb2 leddit for affirmation from other the cocksuckers there kek

>>17704691
>chinese made watch
Post proof and I will sell my comfy speedmaster and fuck off and never return. Oh wait, you can’t. Sour grapes nigger. Let’s see your affordable watch “collection”

>>17704681
based

>>17704736
>speedmaster
>sour grapes
kek just look up the definition of swiss made, that's all you need to know, no reason for buyer's remorse

>>17704742
The chinks ruin everything including omega

>>17704742
I'm aware of the 60% rule, nigger. That applies to every single Swiss manufacturer. But there's still no evidence of Omega being chinked outside of useless conjecture. "Look it up on /g/ bro" doesn't hold water.
If you post something credible I will gladly eat crow.

>>17704750
I don't know why you're mad then, you bought a watch with the knowledge that a Swiss charged 60% of the value to bless it with a dab. You don't lose any sleep over the fact that a $300 Victorinox follows the same stringent "Swiss Made" standard as your Speedmaster, you're either very brave or very foolish.

>>17704769
If I were mad, why would I say I'm willing to eat crow? I just want to see a source for myself instead of just taking some faggot zoomer's word for it.

>>17704771
It's right there in the definition. If you want to pretend "60% value" means 100% swiss made and that it doesn't have chinese parts, knock yourself out.

>>17704610
Are you talking about this, the one ripping apart the "swiss made" label?
It got posted here a couple of weeks ago and it seemed interesting so I saved it.
https://imgur.com/IHrYVfA

How hard is it to assemble your own watch? I assume companies sell individual movements/cases/dials/etc as replacement parts.

>>17704775
>It's right there in the definition. If you want to pretend "60% value" means 100% swiss made and that it doesn't have chinese parts, knock yourself out.
You're just repeating yourself at this point. We can speculate all day long but it means nothing without concrete evidence.

do anons get bullied for buying nomos?

>>17704779
you need tools
> companies sell individual movements/cases/dials/etc as replacement parts.
lol no only soiko and shitizen

>>17704775
60% Swiss doesn't mean 40% Chinese. What the fuck are you on about cunt?

>>17704776
So is the takeaway to only buy pre-2007 watches?

Just ordered this bad boi

>>17704784
Whatever did happen to the anon trying to make his own touhou watch?

>>17704787
could have save and buy yourself a nice bedbug rappeler

I just discovered this maximalist monstrosity of a Speedy and I'm in love thanks to the blue sunburst and steel bezel. They're all cheap as hell on Chrono though, is it just an undesirable model or is the movement going to cost me 2k to service or something?

Has Jacob & Co ever made a good looking watch?

>>17704852
If they did they'd lose their customer base of tasteless billionaires.

>>17704809
I'm jail rn there are no bedbugs chud

>>17704779
It's fairly easy. Hardest part is not getting any dust on the dial during final assembly, and fitting hands well, they usually need a little bit of bending and if you go too far it's a pain in the ass to straighten them out.

Total cost is somewhere between 100-250 bucks, depending on what you want. Plus, you can live safe in the knowledge that if your cheap +/-1SPD movement does die in a decade, you can swap it out in 10 minutes for 35 bucks.

>>17704218
The Dumont

>>17704844
>is it just an undesirable model or is the movement going to cost me 2k to service or something?
Obviously both.

>>17704844
Should be a flat cost for all watches, 900usd unless they up'd it recently

>>17704988
950€ for chronos, 750€ for regular watches

>meanwhile my casio is 30 bux
lmao

Pick one.
You can't sell it.

>>17705000
the Nautilus, then I trade it for a few Rolexes and a Patek Calatrava

>>17705001
No. You can't sell it nor trade it.
Either wear it or throw it in the bin.

>>17705004
okay then I take the Nautilus and use it as a security for a mortgage

>>17705000
middle, metal bracelets are king
if i could get the first one on a metal id choose it though

>>17703821
>trains? no thanks. my car leaves whenever i need it to

>>17704313
wow it really is a gylcine sub, what a weird choice

>>17705000
right but I dislike the smol pinus

>>17705000
In the Faustian deal in which I am cursed with a hideous watch and offered no sensible way to rid myself of it, I pick none. You could not pay me to wear any of this shit, foul demon.

>>17705000
Can I buy a new strap or wear as is? Can I clean it?

>>17705006
Nope. Doesn't work. Sorry you lost your chance to get a free Patek.
>>17705018
I don't believe you.
The Ellipse is so simple that it can't objectively be considered ugly.
>>17705019
Yes for both.

>>17705021
Can I see and buy an exact replica for 1/100th of the price? The devil i'm dealing with won't be able to tell

>>17705021
>The Ellipse is so simple that it can't objectively be considered ugly.
It's hideous due to the lack of lugs. I could maybe live with one on a bracelet, but not in gold, and the white gold doesn't look much better. Honestly, the main problem is that it's a girl's watch, because it has no second hand. It's totally useless as a watch, and then becomes purely jewellery.

>>17705000
Of the 3, nautilus. Maybe id go with aquanaut if it was some different version, that one is ugly. Watch on the far right i always forget its name is it eclipse? I fucking hate that watch. Cant stand the way it looks

>>17705027
Yeah, it's a girl's watch. Too dainty and boring for a man to wear.

>>17705031
It's a minimalist dress watch, like the Tank.
I think it looks pretty cool.

>>17704585
You really shouldnt let the tap water run on the face of the watch unless it has at least 600m of wr

Do people really "test" the WR of their watch? Why would I need to tell time underwater? If I slip into a river or something, the WR is there for me. Day to day? I just take it off if I'm going swimming, man.

>>17705035
Ok, it doesn't look that bad. The bezel is thicker than I thought.

>>17704133
really?

>>17705038
Patek has made several versions of the Ellipse. Some are ugly, some are really cool. They even made a version with lugs.

>>17704783
Here yes.

>>17705043
and for some reasons they've made this one kek

Nomos? More like nohos LOL!

>>17705043
Not him but all of these ellipses posted here just look ugly to me. Not a thing about the external finishing (including the dial, hands, etc) are interesting. Looks like a dollar store quartz watch.

>>17705047
Reminds me of the infamous Cartier Divan

>>17704610
>Essentially, if Omega's bracelets are chinese, what else? Cases? Dials?Hands? Whole thing?
Ive been tild that the most parts arrive from china in its raw form and they get finished in switzerland and apparently that makes them legally swiss made. China sends a finishwd case and that is considered a raw material like a 1 kg piece of stainless steel. They touch it up on the polishing machine and boom - swiss made case - lagally speaking. Not all 100% of parts need to be swiss made for watch to be considered swiss made. For this reason omega claims the dial is only 1 part because it is glued together and movement for example is 100 different parts. This way they can legally bxpass the law and swiss gov isnt allowed to disclose any details. The dial is something that requires the most time and man hours so they are 100% made in china where labour is cheap af. I dont mean they piece it together in switzerland, they get the finished product, packaged and ready to put into the case (which they got in the same shippment, but need to polish up a bit. Its all pathetic really and really makes you appreciate ROLEX, patek, seiko and casio a lot more

>>17705051
I lile that
https://youtu.be/EEvopkbc4FE

>>17704844
Shit non-omega movement, expensive to service, looks dated with the high polish bezel, and too thick

So yeah, it's a low tier speedy

>>17705063
>non-omega movement
good
>expensive to service
servicing regularly is a scam, fix it when it stops working and the slightly higher price wont matter
>looks dated with the high polish bezel
subjective
>too thick
it's a men's sports watch

let me guess - you need more

>>17705099
walmart pepsi is gross

>>17705099
You've set the bar very low so it's not hard to want more. I'm a Seikofag but even i struggle to defend buying this watch. Just get a Weekdater.

>>17704785
Of course not, it means 100% Chinese parts with 60% Swiss assembly cost.

Moser should make a "100% Made in China" watch and have it look exactly like an Omega.

>>17705099
I already got a GS.

Unless Seiko releases these with a Miyota 90XX movement or one that doesn't involve Seiko lottery, <$2k Seiko watches are closer to being memes these days.

new thread
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>>17705057
There's more to it than the 60% that other guy keeps crying about. Going through >>17704776 there's a part which allows Swiss companies to bypass the 50% value of the parts bit by using a certified country such as Hong Kong. Nothing is made in HK these days as it's all done in Shenzhen and shipped back across. Swatch is so large and has factories in China, other companies do not. Rolex doesn't. JLC doesn't. Does that mean TAG is actually Swiss made? Doubt it lol. Considering the high probability that Swatch's basicbitch tiers are all 99% Chinese made, otherwise how else could they make them affordable to lower middle class wanting muh swuss maid, how can you even begin to trust their higher tiers? If Omega had chink components Longines surely has more, that's the problem with the level system they've enforced for their brands. It's too easy to consider that Swatch, whose already getting all sorts of parts made for their lower tiers, to also get them made for Omega at the same bargain basement prices. Why wouldn't they? They already have the operation set up and would be stupid to throw away money like that. Is nothing sacred then? I'd say that Breguet is 100% Swiss, or as PP, VC or AP and that's only because people have toured their manufacture and this guy >>17704161 considered Breguet as his baby. I'd like to think he didn't want to sully it but you never know. All comes down to trust. Can you trust Omega after finding that they are known to get bracelets made elsewhere yet stamp them "Swiss"?
Not me.

>>17705133
Anyone who thinks that all the kikes aren't farming out production to China is delusional. Maybe on a Dufour you get a partially finished in mountain jew land watch. Anything in the sub 100k market? Good luck, lmao.

>>17705137
That's why it comes down to trust. If you can find documented footage of a factory that is shown making every component, like what's been reported about Rolex, JLC and the higher tiers etc., then you can have a greater measure of trust than in say Certina or TAG or in this case Omega which has had known Chinese parts.
To date there's been no indication that say Rolex, JLC, the "trinity" or anyone above them use chink made stuff. You can only work with what you know, and what's known about Omega, and Swatch as a whole, kinda stinks.

>>17705143
Omega is trying really hard to establish themselves as rolex' counterparts. Instead of making better quality, higher specs, swiss made watches, they decided to go the other route and source out everyrhing from its wast swatch group manufacturers, bring the costs down by employing chinese sweatshops and spend all the money in buying influencers, e-shillers, movie producers and advertisement in general. I can not blame a normie for falling for it and wasting his money on it, but how can a watch enthusiast burn his money away instead of buying ROLEX is beyond me

>>17704176
I like the look and no