/fa/ - Fashion

>>17692251
First for stuffie.

First for Sneedmaster supremacy

>>17692255
Did you buy one of these Omega© rainbow strap during pride month?

>>17692259
No. I don’t like being associated with your kind.

Post watches made out of pure 24k 999 gold.

>>17692260
Then why did you buy a watch from an LGBT friendly company?

>>17692261
I don't think that's even possible.

>>17692259
>Omega's website has NATO straps inspired by countries flags
>all the big countries available
>Russia not even listed for some reasons

>>17692267
>for some reason

>>17692262
Can you name a single non-fag enabling company in current globohomo year?

>>17692267
>>17692270
Isn't this one russian?

>>17692272
>single non-fag enabling company in current
Unironically, Greubel Forsey

>>17692272
Most watch companies are neutral when it comes to faggot/nigger bullshit. Omega is not.
>>17692274
South Korea

>>17692275
Too bad they don’t make anything tasteful.
>>17692277
I blame Swatch. But most companies do. Rolex makes a rainbow fag watch.

>>17692283
>Rolex makes a rainbow fag watch.
It makes watches festooned with colorful stones but I wasn't aware that they were specifically "for" the advancement of faggotry.
>>17692277
>Most watch companies are neutral when it comes to faggot/nigger bullshit. Omega is not.
As bad as omega may be I don't believe that they're as absolutely turbo homo as homos, who held mandatory cuckery workshops for their workers so that they'd stop complaining about population replacement in east germany by barbarous middle-easterners imported in for that purpose.
Omega and many large companies are "gay", but homos, this tiny whogivesafuck company sure as shit isn't getting ESG bux from Fink; they do it for free.

How much do I need to cough up for a good calendar watch? Citizen has some models but they are awful looking.

>>17692267
Russians never really went hard for omega.
They went hard for shit like zenith and ulysse nardin among others however, and these two firms in particular went in hard for them to the exclusion of all other markets. This lead to the hilarious situation when the russian economy fell into recession in 2008 where all of a sudden these makers' only market wasn't buying their watches and so zenith and UN floundered around for a decade trying to peddle the most fugly shit imaginable to everyone else on earth who just weren't biting.
I don't know what UN's deal is now but at least zenith barely managed to crawl back from catering solely to the tasteless russian market of the early 2000's.

>>17692291
There are some (previous gen) JLC Master Control Calendar in steel around 5/6k on Chrono24.

>>17692297
These.
I think they're alright. 37 or 39mm (depending on the year).
I almost bought one a while ago.

>>17692301
>seiko hands
gross

>>17692251
I would live in fear of knocking it into something and having to spend $10k and 6 months to have it serviced.

>>17692309
It's not supposed to be worn.
You pay 200k and put it in a safe.

>>17692322
someone said oil goes bad if it sits too long

>>17692322
I would worn the fuck out of it. 24/7

>>17692309
>6 months to have it serviced.
lol with jlc and grand complications you'd be waiting closer to a year, or more, unless you've bought like 5 gyrotourbillons and repeaters from them before and are on a first name with the directors and get invited to all the functions.

>>17692322
I want a Patek minute repeater, it's a goal of mine - $300k minimum. I'm going to die wearing that, dented and scratched to fuck but still singing.

>>17692333
which one?
there's only 3 that actually look good imo and they're discontinued and hard to find

>>17692333
Patek minute repeater are expensive but still wearable.
That triple face Reverso is 18mm thick.

>>17692263
Why not? Are watchmakers weak?

>>17692349
No, but gold is.

>>17692325
Probably less of a problem with modern oils.

>>17692382
maybe I'm misremembering but I think I saw people talking about the balance and trade offs between old lubricants and new lubricants, I think they said old lubricants get gummy gradually over time while newer lubricants stay good for a longer amount of time but if they fail they fail all at once.

>>17692267
r u fr rn?
it's a NATO strap
russia isn't in nato

What is life without a quartz shitter to enjoy?

Show me a better solar sapphire watch for under €170. You can't.

>>17692423
I have automatic shitters.

>>17692424
>€
What is this symbol and why does everyone who uses it talk like a fag?

>>17692426
Imagine have to wind your watch, hahahahahaha.

>>17692424
Casio Lineage is 180 and even slightly less ugly

>>17692431
They're automatic, so not really.

>>17692439
But isn't sapphire.

>>17692444
Mineral crystal should literally be illegal.

>>17692450
just stop being poor lol

>>17692255
currently saving up for one of these

do I go to a luxury watch store buy it in person or should i just order a used one on ebay?

>>17692444
Yes it is

>>17692453
Nothing to do with being poor, some companies are just really stingy with it wnd it's irritating. I think Seiko and Casio still make some watches in the $500 range with mineral crystal. There's no excuse for it. If it was just a matter of paying a little more to get sapphire I would but they don't offer so I just buy from other companies that have the decency to not be so ridiculously cheap.

>>17692424
I'd rather have a cool watch

>>17692521
mineral is supposedly more shatter resistant than sapphire. sapphire is really about the scratch resistance. watches as jewelry you want sapphire. watches as a tool, you want mineral.

it's why the nu-alpinist is such an abomination. sapphire says it's an office watch for onions men. but the prospex logo implies it's supposed to be outdoorsy. yeah right.

>>17692533
I've never in my life seen a crystal shatter except in the fuckin movies.

>>17692533
If you were that worried about muh tool watches and crystal shattering you'd use acrylic.
>but you have to buff out scratches!
Yeah, just like you have to maintain any tool. At least it's possible to buff them out.

>>17692521
It actually has everything to do with being poor because if you were rich you wouldn’t even be considering these dog watches.

dear /wt/, what is in your ideal three-watch collection?

Ideas for a sub $2K, two time zone, conservative looking watch?

>>17692549
Fellas, is it poor to want affordable practical beater watches? My beaters are over $500 which puts them still far above most normies best dress watches.

>>17692561
A few weeks back I showed my cousin the video where teddy baldasarre was showing that shark tank guy cheap microbrand watches and and the guy was absolutely over the moon over the $300 Brew mechaquartz chronograph and made a comment "and it's so cheap if it breaks you can just throw it away and get a new one." My cousin was like "if I bought that watch it would be in the top 10 most expensive idems I've ever bought in my life and these dudes are talking about it like it's disposable."

>>17692531
I wish I was cool.

>>17692454
I went tried it on in person and then ordered it online. Sucks there was a price hike today. Speedy is now $7k

>>17692431
Handwind is based as fuck. I love keeping my watch at full power. I wish I could only buy handwound watches but the models I want unfortunately are auto only.

>>17692554
Sneedmaster
300 m diver (sub or smp)
Some kind of dress watch maybe idk yet

>>17692567
its almost as if kevin oleary is a millionaire

>>17692554
speedy
explorer
reverso

I finally got a Raketa Zero! I've wanted one for like 10 years, and finally managed to find one of the less common 35mm ones. Just the right size for me, and it makes a big impact despite the diminutive size.

>>17692588
It's really just different perspectives on what you mean by "cheap." even to a rich person, if you're not that into watches $300 is a lot for a watch. But compared to how expensive a watch can be it's not that much. As watch enthusiasts on some level we accept the insanity of paying $10k for one watch. To anyone not in the club that would be unthinkable.

>>17692577
I have this, but I'm still craving for a Rolex gmt of some sort

Sneedmaster
Semenmaster
Nomos tangente as dress watch (I never dress up no reason to spend 5k+ on a dress watch)

>>17692541
I have watches with all three. The mineral glass on my beater has one little scratch from like 5 years of beating. I'll take that any day over acrylic.

>>17692475
Intredasting. I'm doubting between the two versions in this picture. Left is slightly boring and the digital display is hard to read apparantly. Right is a bit busy and has the shortened indices on the bottom, but I like the blue accents. Guess I'll have something to overthink now.

>>17692572
>there was a price hike today
like, permanently? I was planning on visiting watch stores until I found a secondhand one

>>17692633
Yup perm, Omegas whole range went up 5%(in USD)

>>17692454
>should i just order a used one on ebay?
If you look on chrono24, new/unworn/very good condition ones with box + papers from Japan are about 20-30% off of retail prices, give a check there if you really want one

price is kind of decieving because it doesn't take into account your countries import + duty fees, which can be a lot

but it still comes down to a few grand cheaper than local retail

>>17692631
Whatever you do, consider titanium. I own the left white dial in titanium and it's so light that I wouldn't consider quartz in steel again

>>17692633
a whole bunch of brands are doing this, citing "inflation" ie. protecting profit margins

>>17692301
Looks like unfinished shit made in China on a machine that makes kitchen scales in the spare time.

>>17692661
It’s just vintage inspired. The problem is almost all vintage calendar watches look like complete dogshit.

>jlc watches went up 14% twice this past year
>omega went up 15% over the last 2 years
slowly getting priced out of our hobby lads

>>17692668
Watches are not a hobby. Watches are an investment. Keep them in your safe and never wear them dumbass

>still waiting for my watch to arrive
>got some money on my hands
>want to get another one

what do I do, should I get it or should I wear the one I already bought and buy in other time

>>17692674
wait till it comes

what watches are they

>>17692633
I went to a local dealer and they offered reg prices on everything, sneedy included. Reasoning was that they bought the watches in stock at the old prices.

do you spray fragrance on your nato straps?

>>17692675
I bought a sd1970 days ago, the one I want to buy now is a vostok amphibia. don't judge me, I'm poor.

How many of you want a classic, precious metal 3-hander dress watch on a leather band?
Do you find such a style not versatile enough for you and your fashions and lifestyle?

>>17692688
The hobnail Calatrava is a bit much for daily wear but I think something like a 5227 in white gold would be perfect.

>>17692688
For my lifestyle I'd wear it to my sister's wedding, the birth of my children, and my parent's funerals and that's it. Already had my own wedding so too late for that. I'd rather get a day-date with that money

>>17692688
im not a suit on wall st

>>17692688
>>17692699
My personal choice would be picrel.
I'd kill for it.

>>17692688
>>17692699
>>17692703
I have a hard enough time having a 10k watch on my wrist, I'd go insane if I had these bad boys on my wrist

>>17692688
No I'm not gay.

>>17692595
cool watch. i want a big zero and black dial copernicus

>>17692595
Good on you m8

>>17692595
The ISS can see the numerals on the dial from space

>>17692688
Yes, but it has to be quartz, no numerals, between 33 and 36 mm, thinner than 7mm, or else I don't call it dress watch and I wont wear it with button ups. Point me to something please

>>17692741
The quartz is the friends we made along the way <3

>>17692254
Cuteeee

>>17692725
Yeah, Raketa made some interesting ones like the Copernicus. The Polar/24 hour one is neat too.

>>17692726
Thanks!

>>17692728
lol. It does legitimately take me a second or so longer to actually tell the time on this one, the short, stubby hands throw me off a bit.

>>17692820
dumb name for a watch

Anyone ordered one of the many Japan watches from Chono24 shipped to US? Anything to know? Looks like some nice deals due to the exchange rate.

>>17692828
In what way?

>>17692831
Now add import duties, shipping, taxes, etc.

>>17692634
why do they need to be from japan

>>17692837
Favorable dollar to yen conversion. To add to the current conversation, how do you successfully buy something on chrono24 from Japan? Does everything happen naturally over the course of the transaction or do you need to set up some outside service to get the parts out of the country?

:p

So I just got pic related and ordered a seiko srpd51k2. how much did I fuck up?

>>17692843
you bought two watches?
I say sell the vostok and keep the seiko

>>17692834
>rocket

>>17692847
Do you only ever wear one? I think I have 9. 2 are shitty armitron's I have in my range bag and beach bag. A garmin I wear most of the time. A shitty chinese novelty watch someone bought for me and I've never worn. 3 kinda shitty kickstarter watches I used to wear a lot, but the 2 quartz ones the batteries are dead and I just wear the garmin smart watch, though I do wear the one automatic kickstarter if I am going out. And the 2 I just said I bought.

>>17692631
The display isn't that hard to read, maybe in direct sunlight otherwise it's decent. The titanium versions have a positive display.

left or right

>>17692837
Yen is weak and they get their stock really fast
Which is why there's a bunch of Omegas on c24

>>17692839
> how do you successfully buy something on chrono24 from Japan?
Just reviews from the pro buyers, once it comes just get it authenticated

>>17692859
neither but if i had to, left

>>17692888
>Just reviews from the pro buyers,
Pro dealers with higher reviews*

Payment is escrow so if you get something not to standard just send it back

>>17692741
Seiko Dolce

>>17692893
No forwarding service required? Any import fees are automatically applied to my order when it gets to customs?

>>17692897
No forwarding service required as it's all through c24

>import
nah you get fucked by those
so the price is misleading since it's so cheap on the site, your local customs will fuck you

still overall cheaper but yeah, not as cheap as made out to be

>>17692900
Meant to confirm that I'll be notified of import fees as they come up. Thanks

>>17692900
>so the price is misleading since it's so cheap on the site, your local customs will fuck you
Also depending on the shipping type you will get fucked on the shipping fees too since they will ask you to pay taxes on those too, and if it gets held you'll pay a shitload of money for that. Not to mention DHL. Don't use DHL for anything. Just look it up.

>>17692301
This is very nice.

>>17692521
Casio has made G-Shocks over $1000 without sapphire. They introduce a new frogman model for $600, no sapphire, new $800 steel squares, no sapphire. The best part is that some people would rather have mineral glass for G-Shocks because it's less likely to shatter. Even if that's true it's insignificant compared to the benefits and there is no track record of G-Shocks with sapphire crystals exploding. I would never pay over $300 for a watch without sapphire and anything over $200 should really have it.

>>17692962
Casio has sub 100€ watches with saphire, and Seiko sub 200€. They let you choose.

>>17692900
I have a friend living in Tokio, and im considering asking him a favour and buy a Grand Seiko and ship it to him.

>>17692688
Breguet Classique 5157, yellow gold for me.

>time to get another battery replaced
I am never buying quartz again.

>>17693008
>time to get my watch serviced
I am never buying mechanical watches again

>>17693018
Quartz watches need servicing too. The only reason you think they don't is because cheap ass quartz movements just get thrown out and replaced instead of serviced.

>>17692567
This just in watches are completely superfluous luxury items and if you're poor you're just setting you up for disappointment by consuming watch content

>>17693003
What kind of clothing would you wear this with?

>>17693025
On the same coin, people who don't know watches will absolutely have their mind blown with a cheap(ish few hundred, low thousands) watch on your wrist

>>17693029
jorts + t shirt + sunnys

You do not need anything more than this. Let me repeat, you DO NOT need anything more than this. $15 at walmart and so many of you retards are shelling out thousands of dollars amassing a collection of shiny hunks of metal that will more than likely just sit and collect dust in your sock drawers because you're either 'too afraid' to wear them or you're too busy rotating between a dozen of your other watches because you 'don't want to neglect them' or you 'need to flaunt my perceived wealth and sense of fashion' to your peers. Oh how pathetic a life you hollow, feckless consumers lead. It doesn't have to be this way, /fa/. Join us enlightened Casio chads. Eventually you'll realize that less is truly more and that the social or personal validation you so desperately seek is trivial and unfounded. I implore you all to sell your 'precious timepieces' and run to your local walmart to pick up one of these bad boys. Trust me, your life will change for the better. No more servicing; No more anxiety about damaging or scratching your watch; No more worrying about whether or not Becky noticed you were wearing a brand new, top of the line watch on your wrist yesterday; No more letting your watches sit in your drawers to collect dust; Most importantly, no more wasted time or money spent searching for another watch. So... what do you say, /fa/? Care to take me up on my offer? I promise you that this will be one of the best decisions you ever make. Once you go Casio, you never go backio.

>>17692631
Left is quite classy if you ask me, especially in titanium. There's a white dial version too.

>>17693034
>need
Only animals and base savages screech about "need".
For everyone else who actually matters, whose needs are already covered by default, what remains is desire.

>>17693034
>wall of text to cope with the fact you made all the wrong choice
Looks like some shitty leftist meme.

>>17693041
Ask yourself why people would be so inclined to desire an expensive watch in the first place. Then ask yourself why people desire other expensive things such as a big house or a luxury car. Then think about whether or not this desire -- often desire that goes unrealized -- gives people a greater sense of happiness or unhappiness at the end of the day.
>>17693042
Your zoomer tiktok brain just can't sit down and read something longer than a few sentences

>>17693034
>plastic

>>17693055
>shitty russian junk that keeps horrible time

>>17693034
except this is ruined by a red it strap

>>17693068
It extends the life of the watch since the rubber bracelets that come with them are known to kinda break down quick

>>17693080
lmao

>>17693034
why wear this when i already have a phone?
you already have a phone, you don't need that watch

>>17693080
How big is this?

>>17693080
holy fuck that looks bad under the light of day

>>17693084
>convient
>reliable
>always accessible
>doesn't need to be charged

>>17693091
Good thing omegafags seldom leave their basement.

>>17693091
That's what I was thinking. The dial looks especially cheap.
Observe the inner edges of say the cut out 9. They look like when plastic curls upward when you cut it with a knife or something. Been a while since I looked at a panerai sandwich but I don't recall them looking that bad. Maybe it's just because the blue dial makes it look cheaper and the black version seamaster hides these details better.
Black one > blue if you want this model then.

>>17693092
convenience isn't need
mere convenience bows to need
you have your phone on you all the time don't lie
that list of yours is irrelevant excess by your own metric of overwhelming NEED
you don't need that casio
you fail at your own standards
pathetic hypocrite

>>17693089
>How big is this?
41mm, Same size as a Rolex Sub.

>>17693080
Let this image and those like it be a warning to you fags that try watches on in a boutique. Such places use carefully placed lighting to make the stuff they sell look its absolute best. What might look fantastic under the lights in a jewelry store could very well look like ass under the uncompromising light of day. This goes for AR coatings and reflections too. Annoying.
I've noticed this most recently with some GS stuff which sparkles fantastically under those jewelry lights but ends up look pretty ordinary in normal light.

>>17693103
Rolex Submariner:
41mm diameter, 13mm thick, 48mm lug height, 21mm lug width
Omega Seamaster 300:
41mm diameter, 14mm thick, 48mm lug height, 21mm lug width

Take away the display back and the bubble sapphire and the Omega could be made as thin as the Sub.
Having tried the two back-to-back, the Rolex actually wears bigger. The Rolex Maxi-case is a huge, Tudor-esque, wall of polished steel.

>>17693110
>>17693098
>>17693091
>>17693082
Can you guys post a picture of a watch that you think is nice? Not looking to argue just trying to get a grasp of what your preferences would be

>>17693100
For my specific use case as a conservation officer, it is a need. If I were a NEET like you probably are, than of course a watch is both redundant and useless when you have a computer screen in front of you 24/7.

>>17693118
Omegas De ville are kinda underrated imo, my brother has this tresor, looks amazing in person

>>17693118
>Can you guys post a picture of a watch that you think is nice? Not looking to argue just trying to get a grasp of what your preferences would be
Serious answer: there isn't one.
Firstly because there's lots of us and we have a variety of tastes and secondly because any watch that gets posted will get shit on. No watch is perfect and any flaw will get blown out with the most hyperbolic language.

>And then I saw the Grand Seiko's non-microadjust clasp and I literally vomited half-digested chicken tikka all over the AD's counter

>>17693118
I don't have any issue really with the rest of that watch it's just the dial that looks bad in light.
Matte dials in general look like shit in sunlight imo unless they're like the 30grand parmahamdigliani tonda. This blue dial looks like the plastic of a child's toy.

>>17693118
I think it looks good, anon.

>sells watches that are worth dozens of thousands of dollars
>records his promotional vids with his iPhone
>doesn't even bother to use a toothpick to point out details in the movements or the dials
What's this guy's problems?

>>17693136
forgot pic

>>17693130
>Matte dials in general look like shit in sunlight imo unless they're like the 30grand parmahamdigliani tonda.

Even then. Don't get distracted by the prestige price tag. All matte dials look like shit in bright sunlight. There's simply nothing anyone can do to get around that fundamental weakness in the material.

>>17693136
>sells watches that are worth dozens of thousands of dollars
He's just an employee.

What I can't get past is how BADLY he dresses.

>>17693142
Someone tell this man to get a fucking TAILOR

>>17693118
>Can you guys post a picture of a watch that you think is nice? Not looking to argue just trying to get a grasp of what your preferences would be

I like all kinds of watches, but classic men's watches* like the JLC Master Control series, GP 1966 series, GO Senator series, etc. are my favorites.

*I don't actually know what these are called. They're too big and rugged to be dress watches but they're definitely not sports watches.

>>17693008
10 min at the shop and like 10€. "Service" a mechanical watch (if shitter, literally just replace the movement, because it is worth like 9,95€): send it, wait even weeks or months, pay a lot.

>>17693080
Nice watch. Bad pic.

>>17693159
Many quartz watches, even vintage Grand Seikos, you can replace the battery even without tools. Other are solar and need servicing like never, etc

>>17693020
By the time my grand seiko needs a service we'll all be speaking mandarin and an unimaginably powerful AI trained on elon musk's kid's brains will moderate the mind control headbands we'll all be required to wear, I don't think I need to worry

What does hack mean?

>>17692557
apple watch ultra

>>17693119
Oh you could’ve just said you are poor and tasteless without the original wall of text. Enjoy your Casio

>>17693177
Hacking is when you pull the crown out to set the time and the seconds hand stops.

why shouldn’t I have it

Can someone help me identify the model of this watch?

>>17693210
Because your legs aren't long.

>>17693210
save a bit more and get a tardor

beautiful

Tudors are so ugly but why do i want one...

>>17692638
Any problems with scratching?

IT'S OVER
>Rolex and Patek Prices Fall as Subdial Index Nears Two-Year Low
>The Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Jumbo Ultra Thin, with a current average price of $71,692, is the worst performing model over the past 12 months, down more than 35%, the data shows. The Patek Philippe Nautilus Travel Time is 28% lower in a year, while the platinum Rolex Daytona 116506 with a light blue dial and brown subdials has slumped about 25% on the used market.
>The performance of the overall index, which is down 19% in a year and about 1% during the previous 30 days, shows that prices for the most in-demand used luxury watches are still falling, albeit at a slower pace than in August and September last year.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-06-28/rolex-and-patek-prices-fall-as-subdial-index-nears-two-year-low?leadSource=reddit_wall

>>17693259
Meanwhile a bunch of watch groups increased their prices 2-3 times over the last 12 months

>>17693080
I like how the 9 is the 6

>>17692554
F91-W
DW5600E-1V
MRGB5000B-1

>>17693273
Terrorist watch, virgin watch, incel watch. The trifecta.

does /wt/ buy chink copies?

>>17693210
kinda wrist-fedoraish but if it's not your only watch then by all means

>>17693227
Sector dials are kino

>>17692309
It costs about $1000 to have a Vacheron serviced. I can't imagine other watch makers are charging significantly more than that.

It's really not that expensive to service these watches.

>>17692688
>>17692699
WHY THE FUCK IS PATEK PHILIPPE THE ONLY COMPANY MAKING EXQUISITE WATCHES?!?

I go into these threads and every watch is mid until I finally see a good one and great heavens IT'S FUCKING PATEK PHILIPPE AGAIN! I'm so fucking sick of seeing these watches because I want their entire collection but I'm not earning nearly enough money yet to afford a single one. I'm FUCKING TIRED of only wanting Patek Philippe watches and my standards refuse to let me settle for anything less!!

>>17693324
because you have >le stealth wealth brain, very common with watch noobs

>>17693324
>cries about shitters
>can only afford shitters
Make more money zoomer

>>17693324
Poopy Philippe gets mogged by based Lange.

>>17693273
For me the DW5600 makes the f91w redundant. I would only need a watch other than the MRGB5000 if for whatever reason I wouldn't want to put it at risk. If I had to downsize to 3 watches I would be content with a:
>DW5000
>GMWB5000
>GWFD1000 (for fun and variety)

Thoughts?

>>17693303
Hi nobullychan

>>17693339
not a fan of the faux vintage lume but otherwise cool

>>17692974
They do which makes it all the worse, same for titanium. These materials are a selling point for niche budget watches and mandatory for their top end but removed from their midrange. It's simple market segmentation and while common it's anti-consoomer.

>>17693332
>185 years continuously at the very top of the watch industry
vs
>33 years as a zombie brand

Not really, but we look forward to your meme responses.

>>17693339
>>17693339
Cool. Ugly strap though.

I have been browsing and contemplating getting a swatch. /wt/ is gonna freak!

>>17693119
>For my specific use case as a conservation officer,
fucking kek
forest janny getting defensive lmao
it's like the toilet cleaners that have job titles like "cleanliness engineer"

>>17693367
Imagine being this entitled as a gardener

>>17693234
Daytona cope

>>17693034
>all this text
I wear my expensive luxury watch every day and my casio sits unworn in a drawer. You just sound like another homosexual poorfag stuck in the bucket of gay crabs.

>>17693374
The Brietling Daytora is the ultimate Daytona cope watch

>>17693367
>>17693371
Nice samefaggotry. Why do poorfags get so bent out of shape at careers? Is it because you’re a loser neet or retail pleb at best? Get back to work, wagie.

just found this for 200 bucks. Real and worth it?

>>17693324
Because being a brand whore clouds your judgement and prevents you from seeing that the exquisite watch in the second picture is an orient bambino with PP written on the dial

"Suggest a watch for me."
>budget
Doesn't matter, I'll buy a rep of it if it's over a few thousands.
>type
Dress.
>movement
Ideally hand wound, but automatic's fine too.
>desired features
Seconds subdial, yellow or rose gold version available.
>strap
Leather, ideally in a color that goes well with black and white but anything goes.
>size
Ideally 38mm, I have a 167mm/6.5" wrist and the 39mm Calatrava 6119 is the biggest watch that still fits me, if barely.
>other
I like the Hamilton Thinline 4002, though I'm not going to buy such an old, likely scratched and unreliable watch even in the off chance I find one for sale; I like the Calatrava 5227 but I'd rather have something with a seconds subdial; I don't like the 6119 because of the fluted crown which looks a tad too busy and the hands' shape; and I kinda like the VC Traditionnelle 82172 and 87172 but I can't find a good replica of either.
The watch will be almost exclusively worn with a black tuxedo and black, rose gold or black and yellow gold cufflinks at the theater, concert hall, wealthy acquaintances birthday parties and similar events.
>inb4 if you can't afford a relatively expensive dress watch it'll be clear you're wearing a rep
Regardless of whether I can afford it or not I'm not going to spend €20k on a watch to wear it 30 times a year, but I'd still like to have one that's fit for such occasions.

>>17693385
Not samefagging but feel free to keep deluding yourself. And it's Sunday faggot, if you're working then you're the one who fucked up. I'll see you at the local community park mowing the lawns on Wednesday when I go out for my lunch hour.

>>17693419
Oh forgot, Chik Fil A gives you the day off today. I’m not even the same woodsanon. I’ve noticed a trend here of wagies seething at people with middle and upper class careers. You should try being happy for people man it will lower your cortisol levels

>>17693120
I sure hope so, in the pic it looks like a tissot

>>17693412
Zenith Elite generally comes with small seconds and gold case models, you should give us a real budget though because there's a lot of watches you won't be finding reps of

>>17693391
Only if you like that very dated design

>>17693429
Didn't realize gardeners need internet defenders. And if you're looking for class harmony then /wt/ is the wrong place for that, one day I'm wagie larping and the next I'm daddy megabucks, whatever will piss you off the most

>>17693391
Sure! If it's still 1994 where you are.

>>17693391
Probably real.
it doesn't look like it's in great shape and the effort to buff out all those scratches probably would be worth more than the value of the watch. If it works as is, then it'll serve you fine.

Like the others said, it's a very 90s design. Some people like that, some don't. Right now, early 70s designs are in.

In the real world, no one will be like "Pfft, what a dated design!" because no one cares about watches. It's not the same as wearing a 90s-style pair of JNCO jeans or something.

>>17693352
>muh history
There is no bigger cope than resting on the laurels of 100 year old achievements

>>17693506
Defending your choice by calling others' choices coping is a popular form of coping.

>>17693506
Why didn't Lange invent a new name then rather than rip off and attempt to rest off the laurels of a dead one?

>>17693391
>just found this for 200 bucks. Real and worth it?
I don't know if it is real. Might be a franken.

The case and bracelet are obviously from the TAG Heuer Kirium model range, but I don't remember any Kirium with a panda dial configuration like that.

>>17693516
>Why didn't Lange invent a new name then rather than rip off and attempt to rest off the laurels of a dead one?
Because no one would buy a watch called Günter Blümlein (the guy who actually founded the current ALS). Oh, you were asking rhetorically. Nevermind.

>>17693516
A. Kurze & Söhne

>>17693531
A. Kurze und die Söhne seiner Frau

>>17693535
>your wife's son
kek

>>17692428
>t. I am an ohionigger
lol

>>17693514
>>17693516
>historycucks still seething
Kek. Sorry kids, the Sterns are too busy lining their pockets by selling mediocre watches to compete with the likes of based Lange.

>>17693523
>Because no one would buy a watch called Günter Blümlein (the guy who actually founded the current ALS).
But surely the quality spoke for itself! Fine connoisseurs of horology would've lined up through the shitty east german streets just to get a hold of a Bluemline! After all, people who buy these things truly care for the microscopic finishing and take a loupe with them wherever they go. They don't just buy things because of marketing and historical association!
Say it isn't so!

>>17693544
Yeah, so much better to line the pockets of a luxury goods holding company.

Yawn.

PATEK BROS...OUR RESPONSE?

>>17693523
The langetroon ITT wouldn't have touched this brand much less have paid anything close to trinity swiss pricing for some whogivesafuck out of nowhere german brand called "Blümlein" lmao
They gobbled that marketing mystique like so many fat loads.

>>17693552
lmao. Don't care.

By the time you take your watch off to show other people (theoretically, of course. You'll never own a Lange) they will have become so bored and desperate to get away from you that you won't even get to explain to them the different levels of finishing at Patek.

>>17693560
>muh marketing mystique
Why are you pretending that Audemars Piguet, Patek Philippe, Vacheron Constantin, Czapek, Moser, Breguet, Omega, Rolex, and JLC don't do this? If you believe the marketing or "heritage" of any of these companies you are a complete fool.

>>17693561
>I'm happy to pay more money for an inferior product because I fell for the Patek meme
lol. LMAO

>>17693561
>You’ll never own a lange
You were saying?

>>17693570
OOOhhh, now it makes sense why you're so asspained.

>>17693572
Continue to seeth poor loser lmao

>>17693572
You just got utterly BTFO. Post your Patek with inferior finishing now. You do have a Patek...right?

>removes all internal angles so they can make 60000 watches a year instead of 55000 so the Sterns can buy more yachts
holy based. NOW THIS IS WATCHMAKING

>>17693570
Gotta say, you're really making the team look bad.
You should try to preserve your dignity.

You're acting like a hooting American.

>>17693582
Wealth <> class. It's a well-known fact.

thoughts on "Watch Gringa"?

>>17693592
sort of hot but pretty stupid

>>17693562
>Why are you pretending that Audemars Piguet, Patek Philippe, Vacheron Constantin, Czapek, Moser, Breguet, Omega, Rolex, and JLC don't do this? If you believe the marketing or "heritage" of any of these companies you are a complete fool.
Explain in detail how these brands were made up 30yrs ago and have ripped off the legacy of an entirely different watchmaker in order to sell watches.
>slips in moser and czapek
lmao you disingenuous fag. Those two specifically have done exactly what lange did.

>>17693606
You have gotten BTFO so hard already you should just hide the thread, it's embarrassing at this point.

>>17693612
>B-but I already spent money on this one! It HAS to be the best, I NEEEED it to be the best!!
So...no answer?

>>17693614
Patek hasn't been the best since Lange entered the scene and anally raped them in 1994.

>>17693617
>Patek hasn't been the best since Lange entered the scene and anally raped them in 1994.
By what metric?

>>17693617
And in which tier should we place Moser fe?

>>17693619
Finishing. Technical brilliance. Innovation. Perfection.

>>17693624
>H. Moser & Cie
That doesn't count. Heinrich Moser died in 1874 and his company was taken over by the Soviet government in the 1920s.

The current company has only been around since 2005 and just recycles the Moser name.

>>17693625
Those are not metrics. Those are subjective.

Who buys these?
>chopard beagle
>gp lauren
>iwc eugene
Etc.
They're all royaljoke cope buys sure, but who is actually buying them? They're not cheap shitters like the maurice lacock aikon or that new tissot meme. Anyone ever actually seen anyone wear these? I see plenty of nautiluses, aquanauts, the occasional overseas and of course the RO/ROO, but never a laureato or this chopard alpine eagle. Iwc is fliegers only.

>>17693624
They run the gamut from competently made mostly machine finished relatively cheap watches all the way up to haute horlogerie that can compete with the best (albeit in very low quantities)
>>17693632
>UHH THAT DOESN'T COUNT!
lmao. Finishing quality isn't subjective and the objective fact is Lange completely rapes Patek on that front on every watch below $90k (see: 99% of their output)

>>17693460
>Zenith Elite
Thanks, a 40mm case is certainly too much for my wrists though.
>a real budget
Say €5k tops, though I imagine there are more watches above this price that I could find reps of than watches that fit my search criteria under it.

>>17693633
1. You can't afford neither.
2. People who don't want a RO.
I have seen one Laureato and I'm almost sure one Alpine Eagle irl.

>>17693624
Moser quality varies quite a bit imo. Some of their higher end models have fantastic finishings but some of their other models doesn’t get the same treatment

>>17693612
>makes claim
>can't back it up
>"n-no you btfo!"
lmao retard

For your consideration

>>17693644

>>17693644
There’s a reason why Patek needs to hide their column wheel behind a cover. Hint: black polishing the column wheel is hard and time consuming

What is this obsession with finishing? What kind of an utter psycho is staring at their watch under a microscope?
It's like you forgot that the first rule is that the watch actually has to look good. Most of these "well-finished" watches actually look like shit on the wrist.

>>17693644
>>17693645
I actually feel sorry for Patek. Getting BTFO 30 years ago and you still can't compete with the Datograph. Maybe they should lay off the quartz and garbage sports watches and actually get back to making watches.
>>17693648
Utter cope because you can't deal with the fact that Pateks are badly finished for the price.

>>17693639
>1. You can't afford neither.
>2. People who don't want a RO.
so they are just rokecopes ok thanks for confirming

>>17693648
Don’t really need a microscope to differentiate between good and subpar finishing.

>>17693644
Oh god that looks so bad, like some machine-finished Seiko 5.
How can Poopie Philip justify charging anything more than 50 USD for that piece of crap?
People who buy those must be literally retarded.

>>17693654
uhh anon i'll have you know that's an $80k watch and it's worth every penny because the company was bought by the sterns after the great depression. do not trash talk patek again.

>>17693570
>>17693582
Kek nice blumlines
Fags

This thread has devolved into pure schizoposting.

I want to fuck Jenni Elle so badly

>>17693644
Is this really the best they can do?

>>17693644
>>17693645
Patek MOGGED INTO OBLIVION.
lmaoooo

>>17693660
The best they can do is probably the Henry Graves Supercomplication.

>>17693667
A 90 year old pocket watch? That doesn’t bode well for the brand.

>>17693633
>They're all royaljoke cope buys sure, but who is actually buying them?

People who want to have a Nautilus or APRO, but either can't source one (waiting lists and all that) or they deliberately want to be contrarian.
Like, they want to fit in without actually following the uniform guidelines to the letter.

How hard would it have to be to talk Jenni Elle out of her marriage?

>>17693666
>>17693660
>>17693658
>>17693657

This is the high-end version of an Omega owner trying to convince us all that Omega is better than Rolex. Just replace "coaxial" and "went to the moon" with "finishing".

>>17693675
>How hard would it have to be to talk Jenni Elle out of her marriage?
She's German. She's probably in an open marriage.

>>17693648
Attended a richcunt watchclub meeting once with a wealthy friend. Grand complications were the base level here. Every member had multiple tourbillons etc.
None of them gave a shit about finishing, not to the extent people here claim to care anway. I'm pretty sure you could slip in a fake and they'd all gush and fawn over it. So I have trouble believing the Lange fags who say they bought based purely on the intrinsic quality of the item and that the brand story played absolutely no part whatsoever.

>>17693648
That's what mainly differentiates high-end horology from cheap mechanical watches.

>>17693570
>>17693582
>>17693625
Lange has nice polishing but their designs are atrocious. That is why I think they are below shit like Panerai and fucking Piaget. It doesn't matter how much money Richemont pumps into it it's still a new brand without any mainstream appeal. Maybe in another 2 decades they will prove they have staying power and the name will have the appeal of an IWC or JLC.

>>17693673
>they deliberately want to be contrarian.
>Like, they want to fit in without actually following the uniform guidelines to the letter.
so like the langetroons or soicuks

>>17693685
The person who will appreciate the finishing is your watchmaker. Are you buying the watch for your watch maker's enjoyment? Sounds like cuck behavior

>>17693592
Fucked up teeth but I would still cum inside of her if you know what I mean

>>17693678
>>17693686
Patekcuck at the bridge of a meltdown. Kek

>>17693688
>this is the empty mind of the patekfag
lmao

Thinking about pulling the trigger. What's the consensus on this watch? Is it considered just a cope explorer 2?

>>17693592
Waxed forearm hair, not into that. Hot teeth though.

>>17693080
this design is an absolute shit show. what were they thinking?

>>17693691
>>17693693
Does the Patekfag tell you to do things? Is the Patekfag in the room with you now?

>>17693697
I hope not for his own sake after getting repeatedly publicly humiliated in this very thread.

>>17693688
Then buy a quartz and be done with it, you mongrel.

>Pathetik Philippe

>>17693694
I mean yeah it's a cope watch but it kinda has it's own style from the explorer ii as far as the bezel width and pattern on the dial. Only issue is having to have a man's full name on your wrist with that godawful toy logo. Can't get past that parg

>>17693686
>It doesn't matter how much money Richemont pumps into it it's still a new brand without any mainstream appeal. Maybe in another 2 decades they will prove they have staying power and the name will have the appeal of an IWC or JLC.

Richemont has a lot of different brands that appear to compete with one another. E.g. Vacheron and ALS.
What they do though is reallocate resources to brands that are popular from brands that aren't.
For example, when Panerai was popular a decade ago they received tons of money in the form of marketing and movement R&D. Nowadays, Cartier is popular.

Vacheron will obviously always be Richemont's crown jewel, but we don't know what they'll let ALS do in the future. Maybe they'll move solely to complications and stop doing basic 3 handers. Who knows?

>>17693694
We are discussing Copetek Philippe, nobody cares about your stupid purina brand right now.
Come back later.

>>17693678
>This is the high-end version of an Omega owner trying to convince us all that Omega is better than Rolex. Just replace "coaxial" and "went to the moon" with "finishing".

This is exactly right.
Dude, thought everyone would be so impressed and he's spent the last three hours samefagging when he didn't get the Lawyersama treatment.

Can someone explain the benefits of owning a gold Rolex Yachtmaster? What do I get for the $25k spent on this watch? Will it unlock quests?

>>17693686
>Lange has nice polishing but their designs are atrocious.
They're kinda odd. Their designs lack the sophistication of the swiss but they're also not fully teutonic either. Compare them with the very stark german, very trad german, independents like L&H, Grossman and Dornblüth. These German independents have very traditional german movements. L&H and Dornblüth movements are finished in the typical German fashion of watchmaking pre-WW2. But you've lot Lange here with geneva, oh, sorry, "glashütte" stripes trying to emulate the swiss but not quite getting there. Lange's best model range IMO is the 1815, because it truly looks German and isn't trying to be this halfway to nowhere styling.
I'd rather spend money with a german indy than richemont though.
I'm going to a few places in Europe next month so I'd like to visit Dornbluth time willing and ask them if they'll humour some custom modifications I have in mind.

Can I wait one year+? Or do I settle for an 1815?

>>17693691
I would never defend PP, I can't afford either but I would take the PP with shit finishing over any Lange.

>>17693706
>Only issue is having to have a man's full name on your wrist with that godawful toy logo.
The logo yeah it's not great but they actually removed the name though.

>>17693712
You could master yachts. Or yachting. I dunno, im not a horologist anon.

>>17693712
>Can someone explain the benefits of owning a gold Rolex Yachtmaster?
It's all bad. You can't go outside wearing it without every woman within 100m soaking the ground with pussy juice. Then they all start fighting each other for your attention and all you really just wanted to do is go for a quiet walk.

>>17693712
>What do I get for the $25k spent on this watch?
Gold instead of steel. That's it.
Are you legally retarded?

>>17693706
>that godawful toy logo.
It's a catfood brand logo.

>>17693722
I was asking about the metaphysical benefits of spending $25k on a watch that provides $25 of utility. Will it unlock quests?

>>17693730
A questing for your sanity, maybe, if you're not too far gone.

I actually like Patek but there are always going to be compromises when you are producing that many watches. If you want a watch with no compromise you have to go up to Greubel Forsey or DeBethune tier where it's some autistic guy in a wood shed doing everything.

>>17693637
I was mostly referring to older models, those have smaller sizes and you should be able to score a gold one with that budget.
The current Elites kind of look like ass imo

Am I crazy, or are Seiko ad photos horrible? Look up customer review pictures and videos, and the watches look leagues different

Hey wt.
I LOVE old tech aesthetic and I found this in a fb group. They asking $60. It's working.
I want to pull the trigger, but I worry. How do you think people will react to a guy wearing picrel?

>>17693707
It's good in a way, you can see Richmont investing in Lange. I doubt they are getting much of a return now but it might pay off in the long term. The reason they are investing all this money I think is perfectly demonstrated in this thread, fuck over the perception of Patek and other companies by removing some of their luster. Their biggest hurdle is the name recognition but they can pivot with other brands like you mentioned to stay competitive.
>>17693714
I didn't know they did modifications for randos. Maybe part of the plan is to tackle Swiss brands with German watchmaking. I might be naive but I don't think anybody knew about other German watchmakers before Lange got recognition.

To answer your question, it might be worth the wait.

>>17693746
People will ask questions, and if it works, they will think it's really cool.

>>17693740
Lange actually delivers that kind of autistic level obsessed finishing, desu.

>>17693746
I don't know about others but I would think you were cooler than me and I would want to be like you.

>>17693752
That's true but Lange has compromises in other areas like their cases are all very similar and outsourced.

>>17693750
>>17693755
All I needed to know. Thanks!

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>>17693761
>>17693761
>>17693761
>>17693761
>>17693761

>>17693746
That's actually sick as fuck and I'd wear it. Does it have a headphone jack? What kind of battery cell does it take? Cop it.

>>17693675
Make her a watch.

>>17693745
They look better in person under natural light.

>>17693648
>What is this obsession with finishing?
To understand why the langelet was seething last thread you have to understand that to them finishing is the be all, end all and only important part of a watch. And that's because that's all Lange has to offer.
Lange do nothing else but create and beautify their movements. The entire rest of the watch, aka the business end you actually look at, is outsourced. Dials, hands, cases. It's a house of German engineering autists who're adept at making pretty little machines, not whole watches. This is why langelet screeches so about
>muh finishing
See pic related. The marks denote Lange's casemakers. SUG makes cases for Sinn and some lesser German makes as well.

>>17693793
>finishing isn't important because...patek isn't good at it!
whoa..

>>17693793
Luxury watches are jewelry for men. Finishing is the only thing that matters. If you want to know the time, date, moon phase, etc, use your phone or get a quartz watch.

>>17693211
citizen