/fa/ - Fashion

Torn between Mondaine Original Automatic and the Tissot PRX. Thoughts?

>>17676474
prx looks way better

>>17676474
Probably the PRX m8

>>17676471
Reposting my question from the previous threads:
>What are some fun watches to buy under $200?
Could be from microbrands, regular brands, or even chinese bootlegs, as long as they look fun.
I really don't want to buy swatch, they feel too boring for me, nothing really going on for them aside from some hideous paintjob.

Which one would you buy?

On a scale of 1-10, how lucky am I if my 66€ Chinese Cadisen with a Miyota 8215 movement has an accuracy of about +2s a day ? And for how long can I expect the same accuracy ? I read somewhere that since this movement is pretty cheap, it's not worth servicing it.

>>17676478
The Patek.
How is that even a question? lmao

im about to buy 3 Bulovas for 3 people

Im thinking 2 Marine Stars and what other watch would you choose?
Prefer something from JC Pennys website seeing as how these are gifts.
Early High School Grad gifts for a 15 and 17 year old.
I think giving one a blue and one a black Marine Star is ideal since we live near the ocean
But I want a nice third option that Ill keep for myself if they dont want to trade

>>17676478
Like I said before, the Moser but not blue.

For me it's the GD350.

>>17676490
Yeah, the Marine Stars (2 and 4, the first one has a bit of gold, too tacky for young lads)are best for the young lads imo, but again they're young lads they might not even wear it and just opt to use the phones

But those two are the best options imo

>>17676488
Well, the Patek is fucking ugly to be fair. They never have symmetry or balance and generally look overdone, cluttered and sometimes even cheap. I've tried my hand at fixing it but you can only polish a turd so much.

>>17676494
>he posted it again
t. bought a 40mm but tried a 36mm later and realized how better it feels and looks and is now stuck with an oversized shitter that lost 50% of its value

>>17676493
Which one do you like better for a no watch?
Watch Number 1 or 2?
3 and 4 im gonna buy

>>17676505
I want both 1 and 2 but will only be getting one
Im thinking Futuro but could easily go other way

>>17676494
Soulful

what's a nice versatile, ideally light, dial colour for a silver dress watch? no white, black or silver dials.
>>17676474
if you get a mondaine just get a quartz version, they should be an $80 watch. i quite enjoyed mine and people like to talk about it. the prx will go out of fashion in a year
>>17676478
moser

>>17676510
Blue of course.

>>17676504
>realized how 36mm feels and looks better
Imagine the amount of cope one has to gather to think being a wristlet is normal. LMAO

>>17676511
blue is my main colour so i'd look a bit too matching. might have to go for white

>>17676509
Beautiful women's watch

>>17676513
Fuzzy butthole

>>17676510
why would I get a quartz watch that wasnt an autist casio I use for shooting and hunting? I have standards buddy.

>>17676510
that's sort of why I want the PRX because it will go out of style, then I can get the new hype watch

>>17676490
>>17676490
No. Take them to a watch store, give them a budget and let them choose their own watch. If you try to pick watches for them you will most certainly miss, you haven't got a clue what they like and they'll probably just put the watches in a drawer. It has happened time and time again.

>>17676490
please listen to this >>17676526, you sound stupid enough to be hurt when they don't wear them. zoomers don't even like watches

>>17676482
3, because at the end of the day, you're still with a cadisen that has an 8 series miyota
it's not even +2s a day, you just don't know how to properly measure it
stop caring about accuracy on chinkshits in general

>>17676490
>45mm watch for 15 and 17 yo
I hope they're gigachads, and if not, then you're gigatarded

>>17676537
They are
the 17 year old is 6'1 the 15 year old is 6'2

>>17676526
To add: Find a mall or a few watch stores that have watches within your budget in your area, go there yourself to make sure, look around, find something for yourself as well, but don't buy it yet. Then one day pack them in a car and tell them you're going watch shopping. Make an event out of it, treat them like kings, make them feel special, so that every time they look at the watch they will be subconsciously reminded of the good times they had and will appreciate you and the watch more.

>>17676539
if they black, get the two tone, nigga

>>17676539
do anons here wear watches that are advertised as womens?

>>17676542
The anon with the 36mm watch do.

>>17676535
I don't really care, I was just pleasantly surprised by how accurate it was in real life conditions. I just got lucky I guess.

https://www.menshealth.com/style/g33807469/best-watch-brands-for-men/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=arb_ga_mnh_md_pmx_us_urlx_18464082955&gclid=Cj0KCQjwnMWkBhDLARIsAHBOftr3Gj_lCTRM0nS8q0RHL6TeZJ5H4oYgVqB1f7IXRSn8kJExyP0ecz4aAvZZEALw_wcB

what brands are missing from the list?

>>17676477
Gshocks
Cheap casios
Chink watches
Chere is a $200 chinkwatch using that micro roto movement that baltic used recently
https://aliexpress.com/item/3256801645392005.html
Some great cheap shittler from escapement time like this pilot watch with real heat blued hands
https://aliexpress.com/item/3256802715928246.html

>>17676477
Probably a cute gshock

>>17676477
Baltany makes a bunch of cool cheap field watches
https://aliexpress.us/item/3256805216698815.html

Can anyone identify this watch?

>>17676492
These are better than garmins

>>17676579

That's a compass, my melanin overdosed human.

>>17676558
This is the only list you'll ever need.

>>17676590
>>17676579
That's a Tissot T Touch, you nogger

Reminder
Moonies gets the girlies

>>17676603
Kaguya is mid.

>>17676592
I know it's bait but putting longines next to sinn and christopher ward is making me seethe mildly

For me, it's the Seiko SKX007. I have it on a nice nato strap. I don't know why you'd want anything more in a mechanical watch.

>>17676610
Because the SKX keeps time like shit. Full junkyard dog shit bad accuracy, as most mechanical shitters. Just buy a quartz ffs.

>>17676607
They do belong in the same tier, tho.

>>17676607
LongdickCHADS should be moving up a tier

>>17676618
CW is literal skymall garbage
sinn is cowadoody cosplay larp with drop-in bulk generic movements
longines stands above

>>17676621
why doesnt someone make a new list

>>17676621
>longines stands above
But not enough to brake into entry-level luxury, so bad luck.
Plus, CW's Belcanto is better than anything Losernes has to offer.

>>17676624
The list is perfect as it, fair and informative.
Also, it enrages almost enyone and that's a good thing.

>>17676477
At this point you can just build your own for under $120

>>17676607
longines is low end swatch trash their specifically catered towards the pajeet market

>>17676621
>>17676620
>>17676607
Is Longines actually decent? Their designs seem uninspired to me. I’ve been wanting a tank type watch but Cartier is too feminine for my taste, but Oris and Longines offer the Rectangular and Dolcevita…

>>17676642
They've been absolute shit for so long because of >>17676641 but in recent years swatch has allowed them to crawl out of the muck.

>>17676642
the legend diver is pretty cool

>>17676641
actually the fastest growing watch brands in india are tag, omega, and breitling. longines is seen as an old man's watch

>>17676642
they've got some ugly shit but they're definitely not in the same class as CW or sinn

I got my first big girl watch!

>>17676650
Any references in particular?
>>17676652
Agreed.

>>17676656
>women photographing a thing
>roastie face in front of thing
>men photographing a thing
>gun in front of thing
how does it feel to be a caricature of a human

>>17676658
Yes.

>>17676612
Literally just go on time.gov at the end of the week and offeset the time. Fucking lmao. Imagine wearing a watch for time accurate to the second when you have a cell phone in your pocket.

>>17676659
Wow you must be a real tough guy.

>>17676655
how long have you been a women for?

>>17676659
I like guns and I like Seikos, but why did you think it was a good idea to post this picture? And apparently you're married? What were you thinking? Stinky stinky.

inb4 the gun guy starts seething about "gun grabbing libtards afraid of inanimate objects", they're incredibly predictable
>set up a situation where people will think you're weird for waving a gun around
>people think you're weird for waving a gun around
>reeeeee! I'm being oppressed save me ron paul!

omega speedmaster looks cool but still out of happy meal

>>17676699
what the fuck are you even talking about posting that nonsense, Anon? am I your "gun guy"?

>>17676478
JLC out of that selection. The other ones are flawed to a greater extent

>>17676707
Thanks brah. What would you pay for that JLC? It's a Master Geographic in 18k rose gold with a hinged gold case-back. The seller is asking $10k but I want to try to get it for $6k.

KNEEL

>>17676699
>seething

>>17676712
you're not getting it for anything close to $6k lol

Which is better?

>>17676718
People actually pay the asking price? I assumed all those prices were inflated by 2x. The watch I'm looking at has been listed for sale for at least 9 months, so I know that nobody else is willing to pay $10k.

>>17676722
as shitty as the semenmaster looks, the tudor is a clusterfuck of design clashes

>>17676722
seamen ofc

>>17676726
Only flaw is the gilding

>>17676725
You can try and negotiate but the guy already priced it way lower than normal. If I was him I'd tell you to kick rocks. It's a $30k watch new.

>>17676655
Did they make you pay for an extra bracelet to get it to that size?

>>17676722
Issue with the semen is the retardo shitty gimmick movement.

>>17676725
Maybe people can see something wrong with it that you don't. Can you trust this seller?

>>17676605
Deadass no cap fr fr ong?

>>17676729
Wtf is wrong with gilding?

>>17676736
Is it a gimmick when the movement is more durable than Rolex?

>>17676738
I'm guessing it needs a service
>>17676740
I just think it would get old after a while. I'd go with the little black pelegos if I were to buy a black diver. I have the blu bb58, haven't got tired of it yet.

>>17676738
It's being sold by a jewelry/watch store.

>>17676656
Longines' best looking models are all vintage throwbacks to their long gone glorious past 60+ years ago.
Consider the Heritage Classic line, either this tuxedo model or the other one with the speckled creme dial and blue hands that's some WW2 pilot's watch.
No where near worth the retail prices though.
Any modern designs they spit out are insipid trash like that hydroconquest diver.
The Zulu GMT looks okay actually, but despite being so derivative of the gmt master. Also not worth the asking price.

>>17676738
Chrono24 is pretty good if you go through their system

>>17676722
semen has soul, tooter is too reddit

>>17676742
First gen sure as fuck weren't. They're probably roughly equal these days.
>>17676757
Everything is reddit in the watch world

>>17676742
>muh cocuxial
>swatchmega to debase the fuck out of Daniels' design to mass produce it
>lubricantless movement now needs lube otherwise it literally tears itself apart
>can only be serviced with an electron microscope
>"more durable than rolex"
cope you retard gorillanigger

>>17676749
that tuxedo looks clean but I’m not going to bother looking up the price for something so basic. what’s your opinion on Oris?

>>17676759
Don't forget they had to lower the beat rate so that the movement lasted longer otherwise it'd break.
>>17676758
The first gen, 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc., were all problematic and well and truly a gimmik Omega relied on to try and differentiate themselves from Rolex. I don't how the very latest caliber holds up but I don't trust their track record, or rather lack of one with this compromised escapement.

>>17676749
I read people saying gmts under 2k aren't worth it, so if Zulu is right above 2k and still not worth it what is worth it? The gmt master or explorer ii lmao?

>>17676768
GMTs over 300 aren't worth it
buy a san shartin or some other chinkshit with NH34 and use that if you need a GMT functionality. But you don't, because you've left your timezone maybe 10 times in your whole life
>GMT master is that popular
dumbest shit ever desu famalam

>>17676786
But I call europoor daily and it's nice to know the time there for scheduling

>>17676763
The Oris rectangular is so... busy, for what it's trying to be. You can tell that the brand just cares about the sports watches crowd.

>>17676624
I like this one

>>17676792
>high horology
>fake brand a Lange and sohne
Grim

>>17676791
Yeah I can see that. This ref is more my speed but need to research. I should probably just save for a Reverso fug.

>>17676794
Explain. I have no idea what you’re talking about.

>>17676794
High horology is less about history and more about engineering and complexity and novelty. Even if Lange isn't a real historical company they're still doing insane shit with their movements that 90% of other companies will never have.

>>17676799
The Lange of today was started in the 90s and resurrected the name from the original Lange.

>>17676800
I suppose you're right there, but it does feel bad

My microrotor microshitter just got here and I guess they're going for the full vintage experience because it's flimsy as hell. And am I wrong to assume a microrotor doesn't spin as well when it's not something as heavy as gold? Because it seems like it's just sitting there, and hand winding makes me feel like I'm starting a lawnmower. Point is I should have just gotten a hand wound 36mm Stowa or something.

>>17676802
The watch industry is full of that shit though. Half of the swiss brands are dead companies someone zombified.

>>17676802
>The original A. Lange & Söhne was nationalized and ceased to exist in 1948, following the occupation by the Soviet Union after World War II. The current A. Lange & Söhne trademark was re-registered when Lange Uhren GmbH was founded in 1990 by Walter Lange, the great-grandson of Ferdinand Adolph Lange.
Sounds pretty based to me. How does that disqualify them from HH? They make exceptionally complicated watches using in-house movements.

>>17676808
In house movements and nothing else. If the sole definition is the movement then they definitely are high horology

>>17676804
>I should have just gotten a hand wound 36mm Stowa or something.
Yes, you should’ve.

>>17676808
>following the occupation by the Soviet Union after World War II
Huh, I never knew Glashutte was in East Germany. I always assumed it was next to Switzerland. Guess it explains why Nomos are commies.

>>17676812
Glashutte original is technically more lange than lange

>>17676812
I honestly don’t see the appeal of Nomos. They just look like wall clocks from high school and they all look the same.

>>17676471
>want to treat myself with a good quality sports watch
>dont want to draw attention and have it recognized
>look around and find about jlc polaris
>everything looks good
>check the price
>10 grand
god damn, watches got very expensive

>>17676820
What did you expect from JLC you fucking retard

>>17676804
Do these have a clear case back to let you see how well the rotor moves? If the microrotor isn't made of tungsten or something notably heavy and the rotor is swinging around loose in there I'd have to think the gear ratio isn't very high. You might need 10 or 20 full rotor turns to match one crown turn.

>>17676820
>>17676823
In his defence I'm pretty sure JLC just cranked up its pricing. Like the Reverso went from 6k to 10k or something.

>>17676823
calm down boy, you are clearly too young to remember how cheaper they were just 10 years ago

>>17676820
I think they used to be 8.5 or something. Everything went up about 20%ish it seems. You can get a discount in store however. They have a great clasp if you go for the bracelet.

>>17676827
Everything was much cheaper 10 years ago dumbfuck. This is the result of Jewish economic planning.

>>17676824
I don't know watchmaking so I don't know how to check the gear ratio. If anything it's not a spinny rotor, it just moves kinda choppily. That would imply a higher gear ratio yeah, if it only moves in say quarter-rotations with a large wrist movement?

>>17676834
Did you buy a microrotor for the sake of having a microrotor?

>>17676834
Does yours do this? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BAb0cAn-Yps&t=319s&pp=ygULbXIwMSBiYWx0aWM%3D

>>17676808
>by Walter Lange, the great-grandson of Ferdinand Adolph Lange.
lol
>he takes the goyslop pr shit at face value
Anon, walter lange was dragged on board out his nursing home to provide a crumb of a shred of a hint of legitimacy to those that created a watch company and named it after a long dead german brand.
He had nothing to do with it and the brand is firmly within richemont's grasp, as designed.

>>17676827
my home is nominally 56% more valuable today than it was 10 years ago though it's only 20% more if you account for inflation

>>17676830
are they worth price difference compared to aqua terra?
>>17676831
what is your problem?

>>17676844
God damn if I were 10 or 15 years older I'd have so much more money right now than I probably will in 10 to 15 years actually due to fucking housing

>>17676768
If you can find a watch with citizen/miyota's true gmt movement that doesn't look like dogshit then that would be "worth it" imo.
The longines just isn't anything special for its price; nothing unique, just a different "skin" for a watch like so much junk in that notworthit price zone.
In that zone it'd be better to save up for the next tier up or just wear sub $700 stuff instead.

>>17676847
Whats the next tier up? Tudor is just a worse long jeans and cope watch. That leaves omega gmt or Rolex gmt I guess

Opinion on Ball? I like the design of some of their models, is there a reason to avoid them?

Friendly reminder to get a vostok before the brand disappears forever

I cut my G-Shock out of its box. The time was off after I moved, so I just set everything and it's within 2 seconds now.

My sterling silver Zippo looks like shit though after all this time. I'm astonished. I don't know what to do with silver, so I guess I'm going to leave it alone for now.

>>17676691
>Imagine wearing a watch for time accurate to the second when you have a cell phone in your pocket
By the same reasoning, why wear a watch at all when you have a cell phone in your pocket? Are you in the right thread?

>>17676804
>500euro chinky microshitter
vs
>1200 euro chinky microshitter
Both are bad anon. Unless you don't mind paying over 1keuro for chinkshit.
People forget that stowa was caught using cheapo chinese cases when someone bought a chinese shitter that had stowa marking on the case back, obviously seconds from wherever in guanzhou stowas has its watches made.,
When confronted with this "joerg", the current owner of stowa, refused to acknowledge it and downright refused to state where his watches are actually made. He then fled the WUS discussion where this was discovered and was never seen again. I guess leddit keeps the brand afloat by fags wanting "German Made" fliegers lmao
Reminder that "Made in Germany" etc,. has absolutely no legal meaning. At least the swiss had to fabricate an entire framework of laws and loopholes to at least try and retain some semblance of legitimacy.
Germans don't bother, and so can get away with ChonqChing specials re-badged as if they were made in downtown saxony.

>>17676855
Ball is really cool but a lot of their watches are thick for what you get because the dial needs extra depth so the tritium tubes can clear each other, and a lot of people don't like the way the bracelets look. There are a couple simpler models that are around 12mm and a little under if you look around. But they have some interesting movements, they made a watch that has a working mechanical thermometer in it. If that kind of weird novelty is your thing that might be worth checking out. Tritium noticably dims over the course of 20-30 years, but if you're at an age where you're not even sure you're going to live much longer than that maybe that doesn't even matter to you.

>>17676859
You now understand why watches have pivoted into luxury jewelry rather than practical tools in the modern day.

>>17676859
I love wearing my mechanical watches and keeping track of how accurately they tell time!

>>17676691
I've never had to do this weekly, or daily, reset dance with my citizen ny0400 diver.
Seiko however has shit accuracy. Orient is better too. Seiko's value proposition rep is null and is only furthered by the fact that every watch blog/reddit/instagram etc., parrot each other in an endless and brainless circle jerk.
Citizen is overlooked and is the better choice. The NY0400 was always the better choice over the skx007; the latter is a complete and utter meme.

>>17676866
I've had my SKX007 for many years now, and I get a dopamine hit every time I sync up the time even when it's pretty accurate. Not to mention my stylish nato strap.

>>17676864
This but unironically.
My Squale GMT only lost 2 seconds over the last day and a half, by the way.

>>17676855
Ball are cool

In 1881, two trains collided head on in Kipton, Ohio, killing eight people. The cause of the crash was attributed to the watch of an engineer, which had, unbeknownst to him, stopped for a period of several minutes. The resulting miscalculation resulted in the deadly accident – and prompted significant changes in the field. Webb C. Ball was appointed chief time inspector, and proceeded to implement strict guidelines for the manufacturing and reliability of the timepieces used by engineers and conductors. Testing now called for reliability of timekeeping in five positions including isochronism, power reserve and dial arrangement.

His guidelines resulted in the broad acceptance of standards establishing accuracy and uniformity, and birthed the “Official Railroad Standard” and was even used by COSC as the basis for their certification system.

Ball watches from the early 20th century used movements from top American manufacturers, such as Elgin, Hamilton, and Waltham, before switching to Swiss Avia movements in the early '40s. Many watch companies producing movements at this time, both American and Swiss, adopted Ball's strict set of standards in their own watches.

>>17676796
Yeah, I like this one. Still sporty with those hands, but I like the guilloche work. Just the right blend for an everyday in my opinion.
The latest models are not good, however.

>>17676873
I was being serious, too. If Anon prefers a digital watch, he can wear one, I don't care. He can just wear a Casio F91W and be done with the hobby.

New strap

>>17676861
>Tritium noticably dims over the course of 20-30 years
The degradation is notable within the first decade *of manufacture*, remember those tubes don't just magically activate when you take the watch out of the store/box. Buy something that's been sitting in a shop window for 3 odd years? That's 3 fewer years you have with a certain level of brightness.
>>17676855
I like the idea behind some of their watches, and the idea of a moonphase with an actually glowing moon is goofy and I like it. However the above thing about tritium in general kind of puts me off.
They also refresh their lineup too often. There was some instance I read one where a ball owner wanted to get the tubes replaced so that their dim shit was good again, an endeavor that's already expensive in and of itself since they charge like 60 bucks per microtube or something.
They didn't have any parts
>sorry we stopped making that model too bad so sad fuck off
I wouldn't want to spend any real money on their stuff.

They have 2 apparent innovations that piqued my interest but nobody ever talks about them and nobody else in the industry does it so it makes me wonder if it's actually effective or just another gimmick. Something to do with aiding in shock-resistance in automatic movements. I have a feeling it's a big nothingburger otherwise this would've been utilized by someone else already.

>>17676882
You paid money for that?

It's dumb looking and probably shit, but I love the audacity of it.

>>17676888
About 12 minutes worth of work yea.

>>17676891
Looks like a bad gshock strap.

>>17676861
>>17676874
>>17676883
Cool backstory. Lume degradation is not really a problem for me. If all the lume on every watch in the world disappeared right now I wouldnt think twice about it honestly. Well, as long as it doesnt change the look of a watch in negative way. Bigger problem seems to be quite thick cases in the interesting models and not to low price considering support is fairly limited as far as i understand

>>17676891
That's still too much.

>>17676891
Sure. You don't even have it on your left wrist. So did your dad let you wear it for the day at a special occasion then?

I dont want to like this shitter...

>>17676896
>Cool backstory.
It's fake and more watch bs. Ball of today is a resurrected brand that has zilch to with the railroad watch of yesteryear bearing a similar name. Owned venture capital, "american" brand made in china- I mean, "Switzerland" sorry.
Memelume that degrades in no time and all and is expensive to replace if you can even get it replaced.
Ball shouldn't even be a consideration.

>>17676845
The bracelet is worth the price of admission. I like the JLC more, but aesthetics is a personal decision.

>>17676892
I know. I love it.

>>17676901
Pardon?

>>17676856
Vostok will be around forever, just like Russia. It's unironically the cockroach of cultures and nations.

1000 years from now when we are off-world, there will be people walking around with the Vostok that was shipped from Moscow a thousand years before.

Brand new Gab2100. Love the yellow and how legible the hands are but I'm not going to lie that the regular 5610 is so much more functional on a daily basis. The screen on the yellow is way too Small

>>17676883
Yeah, you can notice it's dimmer in 7 to 10 years or so, but I was saying the whole lifetime of the tritium is about 20-30 years before it becomes unusable. Even after 15 or so years it should still be brighter and more reliable than normal lume.

>>17676915
Did I stutter?

>Mechanical Chrono
>Cool chinese text on the dial
>Gold, Blue and Red
>Not even $150

What's up with this?

>>17676923
My Dad wears a Fossil lol

>>17676919
looks like a Lego man was melted down to make this

>>17676921
>it should still be brighter and more reliable than normal lume.
Depends on your use case.
The only people who could truly unhappy with a proper application of C3 or BCW9 superluminova or it's variants (lumibrite/chromalite etc.,) are probably cave divers or maybe someone that works underground. In ever other instance tritium tubes are a meme. How many hours do you think you'll be subjected to absolute darkness? Normal lume, good normal lume like c3 etc., should be visible for at least 8hours. It doesn't need to be a torch to be perfectly visible in darkness or low light.
All that remains is preference for a rainbow of colors that trit can provide whereas luminova's limited to a green or blue glow as being the only usable colors. Every other color of stronium aluminate mix is absolute trash except for the classic green or pale blue.

One thing ball has that others don't are very classic dressier models that actually have lume on them; not many brands I can think of that do that. Do you want or need lume on such a style though?

>>17676901
What does the wrist matter?

>>17676836
Well I wanted a slim dress watch without fumbling around with vintage watches on ebay, but the novelty of the movement basically sealed the deal, same reason why I have a Seagull chronograph and not a likely more reliable mechaquartz. I won't deny I fell for the hype and FOMO from the first few batches.
>>17676841
No issues with it running as far as I can tell, but I'm going to give it a day to see how it runs timekeeping wise. I just wasn't sure if the rotor was doing much winding, we'll see if it stops running well before the billed power reserve.
>>17676860
Stowa was more of a placeholder, is there anything either more affordable, or more genuine, that uses a good quality hand wound movement in that kind of case size?

>>17676935
If I haven't been outside much during the day the lume on even my best lume watches is really difficult to read through the night. I struggle a lot more to see it in the middle of the night when I've mostly been milling about the house all day compared to when I've been doing outside chores or walking around town.

>>17676492
I have the same watch. So underrated. Vibe alarm is great

>>17676792
Moser don’t belong to exceptional horological. Their watch finishing are worst than most of the high horology brands

>>17676964
Cope

This is the watch the guy in the Magic Arena thread on /vg/ wears, what do you think?

>>17676932
They're disposable. After 10 years or if breaks sooner, buying a new one would be better since getting it serviced or putting a new Seagull movement in.

>>17676659
faggot

>>17676978
I never thought about it before but the jewel count does kind of imply they're cutting a lot of corners with the movement, doesn't it? Even regular 3 hand watches often use 22-26 jewels in their movements, how did they make a chronograph with only 19 jewels?

>>17676891
Based

>>17676477
Timex is my go-to for cool/weird designs at a throwaway price point
Swatch is the other obvious choice
I don't think you'll find many microbrands under $200

>>17676937
>is there anything either more affordable, or more genuine, that uses a good quality hand wound movement in that kind of case size?
what style?

>>17676978
Since getting a service what

>>17676980
It's a copy of a chinese movement that's a copy of an old swiss movement invented during ww2; fewer jewels in use back then. Makes you wonder how much of the 20+ in a 3hander movement are completely unnecessary and it's only there for marketing crap. I think the original caliber had 17jewels only.

>>17676607
It's not bait it's based on budget
Most longines watches retail around $1-2k so they're in the same tier as those other brands, whether you call it quasi-luxury or just low 4 figures doesn't matter
Also respecting brands because they're been around for a long time, "heritage", is sheep behavior

>>17676655
was that picture taken sitting on the toilet?

>>17676978
Mechanical chronographs are always a money dump. At least for a Sea-Gull you're not going to dump as much.

Also the rate of failure for (authentic) Sea-Gull movements is only high before the first service, that's why the usual recommendation when using their movements for a watch is to first disassemble, clean, reassemble and oil it and then it'll last a lifetime.

>>17676964
Wrong.

>>17676983
All the microbrands had to raise their prices over the last year or so because of inflation and shipping and manufacturing bullshit. You used to be able to see NH35 movement watches for $189 or $199, but all of those examples are pushing $220 or so now.

>>17676855
Ball watch i picked up recently. Beautiful and solid watch, a lil on the thick side as another anon said. But I dont think you'll regret getting one if you do

>>17676995

>>17676834
is that your first automatic watch or not? I can't tell if you're complaining about automatic watches not being the way you imagined them or if there's an actual issue with this chinesium movement
how often does it run out of power?

>>17676874
Now tell them that the brand was resurrected from scratch in Switzerland (so they can charge more) by a HK company who bought the historical brand (so they can charge more)

>>17677005
Yeah, all of that is true...... But you gotta admit they have made some cool watches.

>>17676957
Yeah, I really like how easy to read the digits, they nice and large.

recommendations for womens digital watches? I wanted to gift my sister one

>>17677005
Do you guys actually care about this? I have a pretty expensive watch collection and the heritage of a brand has never, ever been a factor when making a purchase decision (including on some pretty high dollar watches).

>>17677000
this is incredible

>>17677007
>>17677005
>Now tell them that the brand was resurrected from scratch in Switzerland (so they can charge more) by a HK company who bought the historical brand (so they can charge more)
Not to mentioned being almost entirely made in China lol
Everyone I've met who owns a ball bought it because
>muh AMERICAN HERITAGE watch
a few, despite even the customary "swiss made" at the bottom of the dial thought it was an american made watch. People are fucking retarded, but ball was clever targeting and feeding off the americana heritage grift as it seems to have worked. I suppose the difference between these happygolucky fucks is that they're happy in their ignorance, whereas I'm unhappy posting on this shitty faggot board on a stupid clown website because there's nowhere else to go.

Ball has in some of their diver models the following features of dubious efficacy:
>"Amortiser" shockproof system
>"SpringLOCK" and "SpringSEAL" systems ensure continued accuracy in the event of shocks
I think the springlockseals are external toggles that allow you to lock the rotor in place so that it doesn't swing around wildly when you're doing presumably some james bond larp-tier shit. No idea what the amortizer does. If these actually do something then that's actually neat. The only other brand that specifically makes a point of shock protection for a mech is RM.

>>17677014
I don't but a lot of people do including many people in this very thread
like that anon earlier today who thought Longines was "above" other brands at that price point or those guys a few days ago who got mad when we criticized Lange and Minerva (under Montblanc no less) believing they had some kind of iconic status

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
$500
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
diver
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz=shitter
auto or hand wind
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
at least 100m water res. Prefer Date. Hard mode: titanium case
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
don't care
> Wrist size or desired watch size
36 - 39mm. Lug to lug 45mm or less

>>17677014
see
>>17677019
>Everyone I've met who owns a ball bought it because muh AMERICAN HERITAGE watch
if you're truly curious, go onto reddit or wus and search Ball and comb through the tripe and you'll find people waxing lyrical about how they bought it because of the American historical connection.
Salesmen in malls will have it as part of their routine pitch.
It helps sell watches that might otherwise not sell.

>>17677022
Lange and to a lesser extent Minerva are iconic though, not based on their history but purely on movement quality.

>>17677022
>>17677027
Some brands have heritage but not quality, eg 90% of swatch group shitters.
Some have quality but no heritage or "fake" heritage like the aforementioned Lange or Moser or any of the smaller independents.
Some brands have neither and very few have both.
And in some cases like the montblanc the heritage is in the wrong field and that works against them
>Montblanc? The pen company? Why the fuck would I buy a watch from a pen company?
and the quality, despite being high, doesn't matter.

With watch brands, more than any other kind of jewelry imo, "heritage" actually matters quite a bit. I wonder why that is? I mean sure 99% would appreciate plain gold wedding band more if it had a cartier, or tiffany or whatever hallmark on it, but you'd not be unhappy with a generic gold band in general, provided it was the same gold content.
But with watches the whole package sold to consumers involves heritage I guess, which is why companies resort to fabricate it when it isn't there or stretching tenuous links that might as well not exist etc.

>>17677023
RZE Endeavour is a titanium diver that's billed as 40.5mm but that's only including a Nautilus-like case protrusion. Bezel is 39mm IIRC. Lug to lug is 46mm but it fits the rest of your requirements. Also it comes in every color under the sun.

>>17677053
Looks neat but what the heck is RZE... another chinese microbrand shitter?

>>17676861
having a thermometer complication is insanely fucking cool

>>17677056
Singapore so basically, but I have one and I like it. Unless you go full Alibaba chinese special, you probably won't find anything else like that in your price range from Seiko or a Swiss brand, or something in that size from Citizen. Only other I can think of is the Certina DS 38 in Titanium but that's like $1k.

I just noticed my grail watch was sold recently. There was only one, on watchfinder, with the case material + dial color + complications I wanted for a very reasonable price. In a way I feel relieved, at the same time I wonder if I'll ever get another shot at buying one in the next few years, probably never at that price that's for sure. It's nice to have some long term goal but it's annoying when you can't immediately get it when you're ready.

>>17677064
what color did you get? Pics?

>>17676845
Jews

>>17677023
Islander Northport or Scurfa Treasure Seeker maybe? There are probably more micro brands using the same movement and lumes as those two.

Fed looking dapper!

Why does redditors insist on building massive collections of entry level watches?
>This might be another seiko/tissot/orient/casio collection but it's MY seiko/tissot/orient/casio collection.

>>17677096
This general is just as guilty of that.

>>17676976
Looks great.

>>17677012
Is she hot? Post pic we’ll rec later.

>>17677096
gotta fill up that heckin watch box!!

>>17677098
A lot of seiko/casio owners here for sure but hopefully it's their only watch? They don't have fucking 10 of them?

>>17677014
If it didn't matter or factor into enough consumers' purchasing habits why do companies make such a deal of it? Why did the lot that rejiggered Lange not just call it a new name? Why'd they go to such lengths to peg themselves to a long forgotten German brand instead of just starting fresh? Same with Moser, or Czapek?
Because there's no way they could justify the prices they charged with a fresh name.
The lie was necessary to fool people into paying the high prices that were actually "earned" by actual heritage brands
>but muh finishing quality is tops
yes yes I know, but so should you know that the prices people pay is not anywhere near considerate or equivalent to the actual quality of an item. How well finished is a steel Rolex Daytona? Can get a slew of gold Geneva seal'd watches for the street price of one of them, or a Lange for that matter.

>>17677092
Humpty dumpty brown egg looking ass

How do you pronounce A Lounge and Shawn?

>>17677012
Casio A700, the one on the milanese strap, or any baby-G if you live in a warm climate

>>17677106
>Because there's no way they could justify the prices they charged with a fresh name.
Laurent Ferrier? Greubel Forsey? De Bethune? Richard Mille? Gronefeld? Do I really need to keep going?

>>17676471
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8UkGSAVhsg

new Greg Anderson holy poop boys it's on our boi greggo is on the gogo yo yo

My neighbour started a conversation about my watch. I was wearing my Promaster and he asked if it was a Seiko...
Turns out he has three (3) Tudors.... A two-tone Black Bay, a Pelagos and a BB36. The Pelagos is pretty damn nice but come on. Just buy one Rolex.

>>17677113
LAWN GAY AND SOWN

>>17677106
>Because there's no way they could justify the prices they charged with a fresh name.
kek
>hey bra come buy my new german luxury watch I just relased. it's called "Wöaché"
>okay how much?
>about the price of a patek philippe
>lol no
>b-but if you take this loupe a-and the anlage!
>wtf is an laggy? fuck off krautcunt
~fin~

>>17677106
Heritage quality blah blah If you like the shiny little metal buy it if you don’t like it, don’t buy it. It’s as simple as that.

>>17677121
Scam brands

>>17677121
incredibly niche names nobody's heard of except people deep into watches
doesn't answer the question of why lange and others decide to use a dead name instead of just making up a new one like the ones you listed

>>17677132
Copium

>>17677124
Based g shock shitter boomer

>>17677134
Rolex, Patek, AP (arguably this one is a scam brand because they basically make one watch) are all not scams

>>17677135
I think he's like a year away from selling out.

>>17677136
Imagine thinking Rolex and Patel are not a scam Kek

>>17677121
Aren't all these new brands named after the still living founder or watchmaker? Like Parmigiani. I can get behind that. A total lie like Lange, Moser or arguably even Breguet however.

When was the las time you actually used lume? The way it get gradually darker means it has no glow by the time it's actually dark. It's a LARP.

>>17677136
Patek is absolutely a scam brand and you could make a decent argument that Rolex is as well.

>>17677106
>>17677121
Absolutely BTFO lmao

>>17677144
As long as these brands continue to produce quality watches I don’t care. I like watches and not pretty history stories or name

>>17677142
A scam can have value if enough people believe it does, contrariwise a truth can be worthless even despite its intrinsic veracity.
The US dollar for instance, or fiat money in general.
At that point, when the lie is treated by enough mass as indistinguishable from truth does it matter if It's a lie if the effect is the same either way?
The scam becomes legit?

>>17677072
What was it?

>>17677096
cringe post

>>17677121
>RM and a bunch of 3 watches a year who's
don't care
all that matters is ap, pp and ROOOLLLLLEXXXXX
everything else will will be swept away and forgotten
years from now someone will find a groanfield in a draw and be
>wtf is this shit?
and thow it out but they'll find the fake rollie and have it fixed by the last living watch repairman
high horologeer cunters are insufferable fags lmao

>>17677160
>smartest ESL

>>17677147
What brands aren't? Omega, JLC, Cartier would be the upper end for non scam watches below rolex

>>17677160
>OMG IS THAT A HECKIN ROLEXERINO???
>I HOPE THE AD WILL FUCK ME IN THE ASS, MAYBE EVEN PUT ME ON A WAITLIST FOR A SUPER-ULTRA RARE AIR KING!

>>17677151
If say a chink brand or some subsaharan nobody came out with watches with quality on par with say Lange and charged the same price you would 100% never buy them, don't even try to lie that you're "above" all this shit and that intrinsic material quality is your sole criteria.

>>17677185
>with quality on par with say Lange and charged the same price you would 100% never buy them
he wouldn't because Lange are already overpriced

>>17677184
this but unironically by sheer force of numbers
it'll never not be funny that the new rolex dress watch, 100% machine made, will sell for more than a holy trinity equivalent or a lange lmao
all those high and mighty fags with their gerbil forsays or parmahams or whatever the fuck that other nigger listed crying that nobody they show their shit off to cares except the 2 other old men like them in their fb group

>>17677184
heh. based.
rolexfags btfo

>>17676987
The comment I see from people who are considering this is in case of sentimentality.

>>17677198
>22k for this
Heh.

ID on this one? :)

>>17677056
RZE is a Singaporean microbrand, it's a breakaway group from Boldr Supply Co., another Singaporean microbrand, which is the reason why their watch designs are very similar to Boldr's.

They make quality watches, but rule of thumb with microbrands is that if it's based in Singapore, they're top tier. The other two I that I know of is Vario and Zelos, the former specializes in making watches that have the WWI era aesthetic while using modern movements and superior materials while the latter is probably considered the most popular to the point that it's either dealing with counterfeits now(surreal for a microbrand) to being scalped on eBay for $200 more than the RRP.

>>17677211
How many of these do I need to buy before I’m offered a Daytona? Memes aside I actually like the 1908 even though I think they’re fucking delusional charging more for one than a Breguet.

>>17677098
and so is he, these are watch meta picks as well. Most of these literally come up on budget watch recommendations, he even has the Interstellar Murph which is popular for newcomers who do their homework

hell, he even has a Sugess.

>>17677211
22k list.
Rolex doesn't sell for list.
Such is the utter state.

>>17677201
Ugliest Rolex of all time

>>17677146
Two nights ago.
When will this myth end? I have a 15 year old shitty casio that I can still read in the middle of the night. Of course, if I went from bright daylight into a pitch black cave I couldn't see shit, but give my eyes some time to adjust and I can read the time. The point of lume for me is to be able to tell time at night, when my eyes are well adjusted to the darkness.

By the way, this trend of accusing people of not needing useful features is retarded. Are you the same guy who thinks timing stuff is histrionic?

>>17676659
Don't listen to these losers anon. I believe in your ability to protect us from tyranny.

>>17677226
Typical for Air-Kings

Pretty much the reason why those shits barely even need waitlists

>>17677226
>>17677229
to me its just a less boring explorer. i also really like the 36 explorer 1 or that early 2000s black dial explorer 2, but i think the air king is one of the better looking watches in the current line up. looks a lot better in person than photos, too.

COMPLICATION TIER LIST

ELDER GOD TIER
>Perpetual calendar
>Minute repeater
>Deadbeat seconds
>Digital display
>Equation of time
GREAT TIER
>Flyback and Split Second Chronographs
>Functional tourbillon
>Foudroyante
>Annual calendar
>Weekly calendar
>World timer
>Big date
>Mechanical alarm
>Hourly chime
GOOD TIER
>Jump hour
>Moonphase
>Power reserve
>True GMT
>Pointer date
>Chronograph
>Retrograde calendars
SHIT TIER
>Date window
>Day window
>Open heart or skeletonized dial on any watch worth less than $40,000
>Caller GMT

>>17677201
I love the yellow and green logo in a 90s, overly flashy way. The rest of it is absolute dogshit. Did they have the intern design this?
Just as well you bought a replica.

>>17677227
No, different guy. Do you wear your watch at night? You not got an alarm clock?

>>17677247
>ELDER GOD TIER
>Digital display
based

>>17676509
All of those fake svpmk82crews LMAO

>>17677000
>curved spoke wheels
KINO

>>17677250
Yes, I never take off my watch. No I don't have an alarm clock, but even if I did I couldn't bring it with me when I'm sleeping out

>>17677249
that ones real. but yeah the green and yellow along with the font of the air king name are some of my favorite aspects. also think the milgauss case on it is really nice and curvy. i dont like the new one as much

>>17676655
Can't believe people are still falling for the same fake Cartiers.

>>17677146
What is the NY0400 bracelet like? I can either buy it with its fitted endlinks or a 3rd party whatever with straight ends, which would probably annoy me unless it were mesh.

>>17677296
Really good with good adjustment. Hollow end links keep the weight down a bit too.

>>17676478
I only find the JLC appealing

>>17676655
Bro, that is a very comical fake Crapier, but why does your hand have stubble?

>>17676812
>Huh, I never knew Glashutte was in East Germany. I always assumed it was next to Switzerland. Guess it explains why Nomos are commies.
Not quite. East Germans are notoriously rightwing because they lived under the yolk of commiefaggotry for long enough.
That's why Homos' management forced its workers, all natives of the region and thus all anti-commieglobohomo, to attend what can only be described as
>"Compulsory Workshop Seminars you native germans will have to attend so as to force you to accept these muslim invaders -i mean economic migrants - i mean refugees - the federal government is showing down your throat that rape your women and destroy your christmas markets and you will like it or else"
Their president was a woman last I heard.
For those, and so many other reasons, fuck nomos.

> Your budget
<£100
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
Unsure
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz=shitter
Don't mind
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
Water Resistance
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
Not leather
> Wrist size or desired watch size
Roughly 8.3" wrist. I grabbed an a4 piece of paper and wrapped it width side around my wrist and it slightly overlapped, so not scientific.

I'm looking for something for everyday wear. I currently own a Timex Weekender with a couple different Nylon straps. The thing I like about the nylon straps is that I can change them easily. I used to own a Seiko many years ago with a bracelet strap and I liked that too, although I don't remember the model.

I'm attempting to 'class up' my fits in general with a complete overhaul of my wardrobe. I generally wear gymgear predominantly because I'm a gym rat, so I have a pretty muscular physique, but I want to go for a more 'Quiet Luxury' style in mens fashion that's making the rounds currently. It has a ton of overlap with the aesthetic I wish to base my fits around so that's the best I can say.

the only omeeeeeeger i need

>>17676471
Omega is such fucking cringe.
>>17677335
Except for these, pre-Sw*tch buyout Omega was pretty based, especially the Constellation from 1960~.

>>17677338
YWNBAMW (you will never be a moonwatch)

>>17677331
> <£100
that's going to be an issue unless you'd like to experiment with chinkshit.
IMO, if you want something relatively subdued and "classy" that you can wear with basically everything and don't have to worry about is to go with quartz. Citizen Eco-drive (solar powered). Bracelet options because you don't like leather.\
Look up for example ref.
>citizen BV1119-81E
doesn't have to be exactly that reference, just have a look at citizen eco-drives in your budget that are at least 40mm diameter case size.
Surely there's something there you'd like.

>>17677350
Cheapest Eco-Drives I could find were £130, with most closer to £150 and above. On Citizens website, the cheapest watch they sell is £129 and that's for just the strap.

I'll have to look into increasing my budget I think in that case. I'll probably just look for a ton more watches made by quality companies that I like the look of, within my budget range like you said.

>>17677226
>>17677246
>to me its just a less boring explorer
this. i like green and yellow details. not so sure about minute numbers

>>17677361
I think that's your best bet for wanting something classy that isn't just some no-name shitter from aliexpress of whatever. And those will more than likely only come on leather and look weird on nylon.
>I'll have to look into increasing my budget I think in that case. I'll probably just look for a ton more watches made by quality companies that I like the look of, within my budget range like you said.
Yeah look around at all watches and brands no matter the cost in order to settle on a general style you want and then ask again and someone might be able to provide a more exact alternative within your budget. With an 8.5" wrist though you'll probably want to avoid anything below 40mm desu. Maybe 39/38.5 if it's a dress watch.

>>17677387
Turns out I'm a retard and it's actually 7.25" wrist so no worries about that.

>>17677247

ABOVE ALL ELSE TIER
>"Rolex" on dial

SHIT TIER IN VARIOUS CATEGORIES AND ORDER
>whatever you wrote

>>17676983
Only thing from swatch that caught my eye is the Neon series, but I'd rather get a weird gshock than those.
What would you recommend from Timex? I'm mainly looking for a watch with a unique design and/or bright colors.

>>17677019
>I suppose the difference between these happygolucky fucks is that they're happy in their ignorance, whereas I'm unhappy posting on this shitty faggot board on a stupid clown website because there's nowhere else to go.
I hate this feel

This watch is really cool actually. Has the explorer ii look but a dive bezel as well. Too bad it isn't available in white or I'd probably have to get one

ROLEXES ARE BABE MAGNETS

Lads, I really like watches and tons of designs, but I don't see myself owning more than one, how and when am I supposed to wear them all without them losing power? (talking about automatics).

>>17677315
Thanks. I've had mine on a dubious rubber tropic strap that may or may not be leeching chinesiumkemia into my bloodstream.

>>17677217
Zelos has some cool models that fit with what I'm looking for but damn a lot of their stuff is out of stock? What does their restocking model look like? Do they randomly restock every few months and it's just a free for all for scalpers?

>>17677413
my hello kitty mousepad pulls in more babes unfortunately :(

>>17677430
They operate similarly to Supreme so each model has a set release date and a set amount. As for the cool aspect, they were pretty much the first microbrand that popularized exotic mix and match ideas for dials and metal used.

If you want a fair shot at getting oos models at a fair price, I suggest joining their Facebook group. They actually tend to resell the watches a very reasonable cost, got a few over there for like 40% less off the RRP and the group in general is rabid against scalpers.

>>17677452
Get up with the times, it's Kuromi or Cinnamoroll these days.

>>17677454
I actually own a bunch of Kuromi shit.

>>17677456
Same because I like bad bitches

Why are there so many gay furry diaper fetishist rolex owners?

>>17677459
>he's getting flexed on by gay diaper fetishists
FILTERED and BTFO'd

Any reason a Rolex Cellini would not be the move for a decent luxury dress watch?

Shill me two based watches to compliment my sneedmaster. Budget roughly $30k

>>17677470
Sub + Cartier santos
Or a 300m diver + Santos

That's what I'm pairing my Speedy with

Or or or snoopyspeed + 300m + santos to fill out that 30k

>>17677413
That is one hairy girlfriend. Lucky bastard.

>>17677452
damn I’ve been eyeing that reference. how do you like it? have you worn it to formal events?

>>17677480
That’s not a dress watch in any way.

>>17677467
fuck am i looking at here? is this AI generated?

new thread

>>17677494
>>17677494
>>17677494

>>17677488
duh loser I’m asking if he’s done it

>>17677467
This looks like Brazilian food but the hands are all white. What's going on here?

>>17677499
You really think a tranny with a hello kitty mousepad ever takes off his cum encrusted programmer socks long enough to go to formal events? Imagine the stares he would get.

>>17677510
fair point senpai

>>17677493
>>17677504
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/dadsgiving

>>17677516
Never seen that Omega reference before, would be nearly a perfect watch for me if it wasn't for that awful font on the date.

>>17677413
is it really old or a very bad fake? Never sa a "Company & Co" on the dial either and the indices looks like a 3rd grader drew them on, kek

>>17677783
lets see
>lolex from ad
>suck ad for possible privilege to pay out the ass eventually
vs
>get a lolex cheap fast
>get tits n bjs

>>17677201
>t. rolex dealer