/fa/ - Fashion

>>17673133
Buy it, by the time the watch disintegrates you'll be sick of that color and want to buy something else that's in style

Are you obsessed with micro-scratches on your watch?

>mfw I only buy SWISS HIGH-END WATCHES

>>17673129
Those are considered the low culture part of JP, friend. They're loud and overt, just like anything in any culture that's designed to pander to the lowest common denominator.

The counterpoint to your comment is that the GS shown in that pic isn't even the most well known GS, there's a reason why when GS gets brought up, the two models that tend to pop up in the conversation is the Snowflake or the Omiwatari and neither aren't exactly maximalist.

>>17673148
No.

If I did, I'd be horrified to wear one.

is this the best / cheapest chrono I can get

>>17673156
Yes, best buy two since they're disposable, even moreso when it's using a Miyota 8000 series.

>>17673156
Cheapest? Probably
Best? Not by a long range

Funko Pop collector and G shock collector is the same person

>>17673149
>posting on 4chud

oop

>>17673156
>Sea-Gull watch
>Miyota movement
Unironically what is this.

>>17673143
We are on anonymous board so I will share a honest opinion with you my wt friends. I like watches, but not as much as I like the status. With that in mind, I need a watch suggestion. It has to be higher status in eyes of the normies vs omega, breitling and hublot all of which are sub 5000 shitters so it shouldnt be too hard to agree on which watch manufacturer trumps those.
Obvious choice would be a gold rolex, but the tricky part of my request for suggestions is, Id like to spend as little as possible

>>17673159
This. Before the watch breaks, you'll already be tired of it, looking for another watch.

>>17673165
Dick enlarger, nothing to show you have a bigger status than the outline of your dick

>>17673161
No, that'd be Invicta fanboys.

Daytona bros? I don't feel so good...

>>17673175
trying too hard
rolex daytona is pure sex. effortless and timeless

what kind of lineage is this?

>>17673175
>endlinks actually are three different pieces
BASED
A
S
E
D

>>17673165
It's complicated. Not everyone can appreciate an object that represents high status. Something recognizable by all. I guess the correct answer is a solid gold Rolex Submariner/GMT. Also something a rapper would wear, like those watches designed by Genta.

>>17673177
>Endlinks not made of different pieces
>Endlinks also not solid
Disgusting garbage

>>17673165
You can get a two-tone Oysterquartz for around 5000.

Examples:
>https://www.chrono24.at/rolex/rolex-datejust-oysterquartz-36mm-champagne-dial--id27276118.htm
>https://www.chrono24.at/rolex/oysterquartz-datejust-two-tone-18k-yellow-gold-stainless-steel-watch-17013--id26619724.htm

>>17673182
>>Endlinks not made of different pieces
>>Endlinks also not solid
>Disgusting garbage

>>17673165
So you turn your nose up at perfectly good watches under $5k, but the higher status watches are too expensive and you need to save money.

What a retard.

>>17673177
who is that aids victim?

>>17673175
This trend of integrated bracelets must end, it makes all watches look feminine. This is a men's watch >>17673177

>>17673186
>who is that aids victim?
be nice to your mom

>>17673165
>I like watches, but not as much as I like the status.

then it's not really about the watches. I have far more respect for zoomers than boomers when it comes to horology since they're shunning Rolexes in favor of Orients and Hamiltons since that's just a natural progression the deeper you get into horology as you get to know more about how watches work.

Mechanicals thrive because its consumer base willfully ignore the existence of smartwatches and quartz, Rolex trying to do the same thing within that space is hilarious to me.

>>17673186
Shut your whore mouth, faggot.

>>17673175
Why does it tape so much? It looks girly and weak.

>>17673188
LMAO so this is actually an ugly woman?

>>17673190
>MUH HOROLOGY
Just liking watches doesn't make you LE EBIN HOROLOGER!

>>17673178
LCW-M300

>>17673193
nah, but you mom is. aids ridden as well after paul visited her

>>17673156
that's litterally the most dodgy ali-express listing ive seen.

>>17673173
No. Casioak mod is the most funko pop thing that exists in the world

>>17673184
Plastic Man

>>17673201
It still requires work modding a Casioak Funkopop bros get funkopop because they can't be assed to do it right and get a Nendoroid.

>>17673180
No they aren't.

>>17673190
>they're shunning Rolexes in favor of Orients and Hamiltons
kek. What does the influencer zoomer prefer, a Rolex or a Hamilton?

>>17673165
you can buy AP ultra-thin dress watches for 4.5K AUD on chrono24: https://www.chrono24.com.au/audemarspiguet/--k18yg-cal2003---743261--id28438865.htm

>>17673175
This is fucking gorgeous. I wish I could drop that kinda money on jewellery

>>17673161
>>17673201
Just like Funkopop there's a pop culture collectible Seiko 5 for literally everything.

Thoughts on the Speedmaster?

>>17673194
It does though, you've crossed that threshold the moment you willfully choose a mechanical that's never going to be as accurate as the cheapest Casio digital.

>>17673190
The oysterquartz came out of the quartz crisis when Swiss watchmakers had no idea what the fuck to do to survive and they were willing to try anything. The entire country of Switzerland was feeling the economic impact of the Swiss watch industry going under.

>>17673190
knowing about watches naturally leads to preferring orient and hamilton? is that falseflagging?

>>17673210
And here I thought I just didn't want to worry about batteries.

>>17673170
No need to fuck with that, I already have shower type dick with visible bulge especially with complimenting clothing like grey sweatpants and shorts. I dont feel it's enough, I need a watch as well
>>17673181
Maybe a higher end omega would work?
>>17673183
Never saw one in person. They look pretty fragile desu. Id probably rather spend couple extra thousands and get a more modern looking ss model
>>17673185
Where do you think you are? We hate those chinese brands especially hublot
>>17673190
Ive said it. I like watches. I appreciate the concept, execution and all the work that goes into making them. I just like status more. There is nothing for deep analysis here

>>17673209
>IS THIS A HECKIN' MAN ON THE MOONERINO WATCH

>>17673208
So does Citizen. that said, there IS one banger Seiko 5 collab I'd really want to have.

>>17673214
>Never saw one in person. They look pretty fragile desu. Id probably rather spend couple extra thousands and get a more modern looking ss model
It's literally the watch that you posted yourself.
>look pretty fragile
The others were right, you're fucking retard.

>>17673209
Based and makes s o y sisters like >>17673215 seethe.

>>17673211
>Swiss watchmakers had no idea what the fuck to do to survive and they were willing to try anything.

Which was their own doing. Their monopoly was a bubble they knew was eventually going to pop, the fact that they brought out a Quartz watch against Seiko as a last ditch attempt during Observatory Trials say a lot.

>>17673208
>Maybe a higher end omega would work?
It's true, Seiko has gone from making the skx007 to this shit
>>17673214
>Maybe a higher end omega would work?
Of course a solid gold speedmaster, everyone knows the Moonwatch and gold brings the status you need.

>>17673220
And yet they remain the biggest luxury watch market in the world.

>>17673218
I posted a solid gold rolex for the demonstrative purpose only. If i posted pic related instead would you recommend me to wear a question mark over my head?
>>17673206
What do you think about this?
https://www.chrono24.com.au/audemarspiguet/millenary--id29168243.htm
I would pay up to 10k for AP, but not small dress ones tho

>>17673212
There are a number of brands that you would just never even hear of if you weren't personally interested in doing research on watches on some level. Maybe this isn't the case un Europe or Asia, but in America you're not going to run into someone wearing an Orient or Hamilton or Laco or Squale who doesn't know anything about watches. It just doesn't happen. But you'll run into plenty of people wearing Rolexes that just wanted a Rolex because they know the name, or a Casio or Timex for the same reason.

>>17673221
>It's true, Seiko has gone from making the skx007 to this shit

They're bottom of the barrel and they're super easy to mass produce for easy money. The fact that they all run on 4R35 is a testament to that.

>>17673224
>America you're not going to run into someone wearing an Orient or Hamilton or Laco or Squale who doesn't know anything about watches.

Yea this is what I've observed, before I noticed it's frequency, the first thing that came to my mind was, "oh wow, this guy did their homework".

>>17673223
>>17673223
>What do you think about this?
>https://www.chrono24.com.au/audemarspiguet/millenary--id29168243.htm
Terrible LMAO
The only good Millenary is the 4101

>>17673224
I think that you will find that more hamilton owners know nothing about it than vice versa. Also, what is special about orient that would make someone go out of their way to buy it over any other random brand? I get what you are trying to say and I think it applies to vintage grand seiko/king seiko era for example, but orient?

>>17673217
Hi Paul!

>>17673222
Because marketing doesn't need to rely on facts, it runs heavily on deception and ignorance.

I have much more respect for the Speedmaster than the Daytona because the former actually did its intended purpose, whereas Rolex didn't even make NASA's cut.

>>17673228
The fact that you can't just go to a store and buy an Orient. It's a cheap, good value watch, but you have to first of all hear of it, second seek it out, and third order one online without ever seeing one in person because you almost certainly don't know anybody that has one that you can take a look at and try on first. Unless, again, you know watch nerds.

>>17673228
In SEA, they're seen as a luxury brand, especially in countries like Malaysia and Indonesia, the perception of the former is a big deal on itself since they're the other country outside of JP that actually makes Seiko movements.

Orient designs just look far more expensive than they actually cost, you can see it in display from that one Teddy Bulbasaur video where millennials react to luxury watches and Orient just keeps fooling the participants.

>>17673165
Cartier Tank Must

>>17673235
But I meant for men, anon.

>>17673230
Daytona succeeded in becoming a highly coveted cultural icon that holds and appreciated value better than a CD. It took a few years but Rolex won in the end.

>>17673235
Would you chose steel or gold for tank?

>>17673208
LMAO
Seiko is now a joke that isn't funny.

>>17673235
How'd you get to my gran's jewelry box?

>>17673235
Soulful

>>17673239
>Rolex won in the end

>>17673235
That woman has a weirdly gnarled hand.

>>17673240
That anon is looking for status so gold would be the obvious choice.

>>17673143
>yfw your normie "luxury" watches take less time to make than a Casio

ROLEX fags on suicide watch.

5 or 6 years ago, when this threads used to be on /g/, some anon posted picture of his 2 watches in a watch box. One of them was a older blue dial omega with black strap. Probably leather, but couldve been rubber, im not sure. His other watch was black or dark gray dial vintage rolex datejuat iirc. Does anyone know the picture im talking about? I wanted to know what was omega reference number if by any chance that guy is still around

>>17673256
>300+ hours
>bunch of companies
>except for one guy

Based Sekiguchi

>>17673256
>gs is made in 2 hours
>the finishing still BTFOs patek, ap, rm, a lame&sohne, fp joke, philippe stealfour...
truly /our watch/

grand reddit

>>17673256
Vostok reigns supreme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhW9ZER5eQs

>>17673256
>when your watch enslaves (white) people for +100 hours.

>>17673227
>The only good Millenary is the 4101

Haha, you cheeky bugger...a "good" Millenary. For real, though, whole series sucked. That's why they discontinued it.

>>17673269
My gripe with Vostok is that they never bothered to improve since the 1960s.

if anything, their watch prices were already going up before the war for no reason besides the fact that they were getting alot of attention from watch reviewers.

>>17673260
>Who is Philippe Dufour?

>>17673270
That's what keeps coming to mind whenever I see this watch get posted

>>17673273
I'll have to look the guy up, I didn't know that.

>>17673266
>gs is made in 2 hours
Yeah, no wonder.
LMAO

>truly /our watch/
Only if we were all blind, retarded and dirt poor.

>>17673225
4R35 is so shit it makes a 2824 look like a Lange chronograph. They added the hacking seconds and manual wind, but you almost cant even tell what time is it with them shitters. +/- almost a minute a day in 2023 is a fucking joke.

>>17673276
Damn. The aristocracy and the bourgeois are very based.

>>17673276
I need that

>>17673266
>>17673280
I thought Grand Seiko snowflakes were made by virgin geishas on top of mount Ishizuchi when the first snow of winter arrives!? Was i lied to??

Grand Seikos are so incredibly ugly
Fuck I hate weebs

Hello bros, found this thing in a cabinet and liked how gold compliments the dark chocolate colour
of the dial and decided to revive it, cleaned, changed the battery and voila, it works again!

>>17673196
thanks

>>17673285
The dial represents the waves on lake Kawagushiko on a warm summer day, baka gaijin.

>>17673284
>Was i lied to??
Absolutely.
Never believe the yellow lies.

>>17673281
Best part is seeing it in action.

Some poor watchmaker was commissioned months to making this whole shitter a reality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b9M6CrL9x8

>>17673281
Yea, that's pretty much why I can tell that these collab watches are Seiko taking weebs for a ride.

Microbrands at least take this shit seriously, the Boldr x Pokemon collab uses a regulated NH38 which can achieve -/+ 8s per day.

>>17673287
cool colors yeah

>>17673287
Ugly as fuck.

>>17673291
And this dial? What represents?

>>17673297
Lickable wallpaper

>>17673295
*colours
>>17673296
shut up, at least it works now

>>17673298
For the weebs, probably.

>>17673293
The see thru casebacks are like Seiko making fun of the clueless retards they marketed this shitters for.

>>17673234
>Orient designs just look far more expensive than they actually cost, you can see it in display from that one Teddy Bulbasaur video where millennials react to luxury watches and Orient just keeps fooling the participants.
just watched this. one girl out of dozen people was fooled and that was it
youtube.com/watch?v=4gaiFsgeO1k

>>17673304
so this is the power of the real horology enthusiast brand orient...

>>17673297
That pic is so mean.

>>17673305
Orient just are fair price. And show how all other mechanical shitters are overpriced af.

>>17673303
It worked for the Invicta Pro Diver. The caseback fools people into thinking it's an expensive watch when it tends to be <$100.

Also

>NH36

>>17673304
HAHAHA FUCKING LOL
Youtube captions doxxing Teddy

>Grand Seiko is soulless

soiko sisters how can we EVER recover from this??

>>17673308
I would say they're more of a bargain than fair, IMO.

This particular Orient usually being just $200 is insanely absurd, the only issue is literally just the hilariously unfortunate model number.

>FAG03001D0

>>17673312
>soiko sisters how can we EVER recover from this??
We do what we've always done. We do what we do best!

WE CONSOOOOOMM!!!

>>17673312
>Uses the one guy who keeps claiming GS stans are too proud

Pic should be Andrew Morgan

>>17673310
>Teddy Bulldozer

Wake up, babe, new Teddy meme just got made.

>>17673304
Goes to show how much normies know about our hobby bros... how do i flex my 10k watch if they just think it's like 200 bux...

>>17673190
>zoomers
Yeah no shit, nerds in college that spent their pocket money on ps4 cant afford to buy anything beyond Orient

But show a zoomette a real rolex and she will pee her panties

>>17673317
The video does show how.

Watch on leather strap = has to be a luxury watch

Rolex on NATO strap = mall shitter

>>17673313
Your sense of scale has been warped. That's about 200 bucks.
A shitty automatic movement like the NH35 costs about €30-40 to a customer, so they cost the company a fraction of that. Stamping out a simple steel case, cheap bracelet, etc, doesn't cost anything when you do it at Orient's production volume.
That watch probably didn't cost more than €10 to produce.

>>17673320
>big + heavy = expensive
>steel bracelet = expensive
kek


NORMIES

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>17673317
>Goes to show how much normies know about our hobby bros... how do i flex my 10k watch if they just think it's like 200 bux...

You don't flex your watch on normies. They won't fucking know what it is and if you tell them how much it costs, they aren't impressed, they think you're nuts.

To flex with a 10k, you have to find that small group of people that:
a.) knows what it is
b.) are willing to pay max. 8k for a watch (so they don't think 10k is absurd)

>>17673317
Normies really think a Rolex is like 1000-2000€ mate.

And in a esy they are right, because thats how much they should cost. And what they used to cost compared to an average salary back in the 60s-70s-80s.

>>17673293
>Seiko taking weebs for a ride
god, i love seiko so fucking much

>>17673322
The thing IMO that fools people is the open heart as well.

It helps that alot of millennials and zoomers' first watch tend to be a smartwatch or a quartz watch, so seeing a mechanical movement with the illusion of high beat second hand must look like magic in the process.

>>17673209
unsurpassed
purely design wise it's perfect
i just wish they made a smaller version for wristlets without any design changes

Watches are starting to bore me. I already have my Rolex and I prefer to wear my prx just so I’m not stressed about where I am with it or if I bang it against something

Back in 2010 i bougt a used Omega SMP300m 42mm quartz for 400€ and spent 90€ for a regular Omega AD maintenance, so it was like new.

People at work thought i was crazy for spending so much money in a stupid watch.

They were right. Nowadays is pure insane.

Finally, the Grand Seiko watch that accurately demonstrates the sea of diarrhea that lies behind those sodding unfinished movements. BRAVO!!!

>>17673337
LOLL

>>17673328
>Normies really think a Rolex is like 1000-2000€ mate.

It's not a wrong assumption to make though, Alot of Rolexes fall on that price point, specifically second hand Air Kings.

>>17673339
Lol what? Do you live in 2013 anon?

>>17673331
Just buy the reduced already.

>>17673335
Remember, /wt/

"investment" is the lie we tell ourselves, it's the strongest tool our own intrusive thought uses against us.

>>17673304
Fuck. The two fuckable bitches say that they hate NATO straps.
I only have NATO straps :-(

https://youtu.be/4gaiFsgeO1k?t=224

I fucking dropped my watch on the floor, the watch analyzer app does show some beat error that I don't remember before, but it still works, date and all, and keeps around 2 to 3 spd as it did before. Is it OK?

I'm fucking autistic when it comes to putting on watches with leather straps, getting it through the buckle sometimes leads to me dropping it like a sperglord, I should just sit down when I put it on or get a deployant strap

>>17673340
No, it just keeps popping up on my eBay recommended whenever I'm browsing for an affordable Aqua Terra GMT.

>>17673331
>i just wish they made a smaller version for wristlets without any design changes
how small are your wrists that you cant wear speedmaster pro? ive seen women wearing them

>>17673340
Don't tell him about rrona

>>17673341
you must be trolling
the proportions of the reduced are fucked up and it has less detail. the moon swatch is unironically better

>>17673343
Those 2 bitches were easily the worst. The one girl who does know luxury brands fucks with my head the most though, you know she's been in a few yacht rides...

>>17673165
>Omega, Breitling, and hublot are sub 5k shitters
Better check the prices on those again brother

>>17673331
The new one wears like a 40mm

U bloody wristlet bitch

>>17673315
Yeah but Leonard literally said it just now, I have no idea who Andrew is

>>17673343
>I only have NATO straps
Play stupid games...

>>17673352
Watchfinder & Co., aka the guy who's trying to make GS more expensive than Rolex.

>>17673297
>what represents?
Learn english

>>17672956
Post pics when you get it, it's also my favorite color for this model. Was thinking to get it on a milanese mesh strap.

>>17673353
Besides lume straps I buy for raves where it has to be NATO straps, I don't get the charm of NATO straps.

>>17673344
>ebay

Good luck.

>>17673360
They are cheap and work better than most stuff in most situations. I wear zulus tho.

>>17673361
Tell me about it, the GS I bought from Japan is coming on the 21st and I'm horrified of the possibility that it could be fake.

That said a friend did mention Spring Drive is harder to fake due to that unworldly looking sweep but I'll prob go down to LA to authenticate it just to be sure.

>>17673190
>since that's just a natural progression
a rolex is quite a bit more interesting than your bambino from a """horological""" perspective both mechanically and historically

How are mechanical watches thriving to the point where ADs can make you play games to buy an already overpriced piece of jewelry?

With quartz you only sacrificed some precision that the average person doesn't need anyways but smart watches have actually useful features.

>>17673362
>They are cheap and work better than most stuff in most situations.

An Anon from a few threads back recommended FKM rubber and that's what's been doing it for me. Best Aliexpress recommendation I ever got.

>>17673363
>Spring Drive is harder to fake
Yeah, nobody wants them except weebs and incels

>>17673365
>How are mechanical watches thriving to the point where ADs can make you play games to buy an already overpriced piece of jewelry?

By pretending Quartz and Smartwatches don't exist. One can argue Smartwatches are doing way more damage to mechanicals way more than Quartz ever did, but considering it's only really hurting fashion brands like Fossil, one can use the piracy argument in this situation wherein the people who go for Smartwatches never really had an interest with watches to begin with so it's arguable they're hurting sales.

>>17673365
>smart watches have actually useful features.
Like showing your transition chart?
Smartwatches are for faggots.

>>17673369
I wish this was true so they'd be much more affordable.

my autism flares whenever my beater starts deviating to 1m30s after 3 weeks.

>>17673370
see >>17673356

>>17673373
I'm not that dude.

>>17673365
>smart watches have actually useful features.
features i wouldn't want to have on my wrist 24/7. I don't need MORE screens in my life, i only need to see what time it is in less than a second.

>>17673374
No, your english is worse.

>>17673365
Looks tacky

>Le useful features
95% of ppl don't use them

>>17673375
The only feature I really want is the worldtimer, which is addressed by the Casio Royale and my roster of GMTs.

I got a Galaxy Watch 4 I won off my work raffle and I mainly only wear when I'm asleep since it makes me laugh hearing recordings of my own snores.

>>17673378
Unfortunate, but it is what it is.

Have a nice Sunday /wt/!

>>17673384
Let us see your ass now.

found some cheap orients i like
RA-AA0810N
RA-AA0811E
RA-AA0004E
RA-AA0002L
RA-AA0818L
anyone had one of these? how is the quality? do they feel cheap and rattily? which one do you think looks the best, they are basically the same only difference is indices and dial colors

>>17673388
This is a watch thread.

>>17673384
nice watch

>>17673384
nice ass

>>17673391
I suggest you wait, since prices for these are about to be announced, but from experience, Orient tends to be very good in terms of quality. Hell they didn't have the issue with misalignment issues that was rampant with Seiko watches a few years back which is hilarious since Orient is supposed to be the subsidiary, not Seiko.

>>17673394
the gym is 2 blocks down.

Are there any more watches like this? I like the white/orange color contrast and modern minimalist design but I hate the thick case and the lack of visible lugs. Nomos and Junghans Max Bill are too old fashioned looking for me. I like Braun but I heard they have quality issues?

I don't understand why anyone would make a bronze watch, I don't understand why anyone would buy a bronze watch.

>>17673397
>since Orient is supposed to be the subsidiary, not Seiko
Orient isn't really a subsidiary of the Seiko we know (pictured here as SWC) so they're free to run wild.

>>17673148
I double check my zaratsu finish every time I accidentally hit my watch against something, but thus far nothing obvious, so it must be hitting the sapphire crystal

>>17673407
Search Moser & Cie

>>17673412
>seiko NPC corporation

>>17673409
It’s cool.

>>17673409
>I don't understand why anyone would make a bronze watch
If people will buy it, you can make it and sell it to make money.
>I don't understand why anyone would buy a bronze watch
muh patina!

>>17673407
Sugess ST19
but it is a cheap Chinese watch

>>17673313
Their pricing makes sense once you realise Orient is recycling A LOT of their designs, hence they also have a gazillion watches in their catalogue that are built from a relatively small set of parts.

If you look at these:
>>17673397
Mako bracelet, Ray seconds hand, Neo 70's minute and hour hands. Standard movement.
They use the same parts for years maybe even decades when I look at their Tristar collection.

Seiko is doing the same thing with their 5 collection, hence their previously also cheap prices. Only difference why Orient is right now much better value-for-money is because they haven't fully adjusted their prices yet and are still in the middle of the process, whereas the Seiko 5 range was already fully reevaluated.

You can expect Orient to stay cheaper than Seiko on average but the new Orient releases are already much more expensive than the one's from just 2-3 years ago.
Compare pic related the new Panda solar chronograph with the Neo 70's one that came out 2 years; same movement, same quality, but roughly 50% markup.

>>17673449
Captcha stole my pic.

Happy Father's Day!!!
What watch does your dad wears?

id*

>>17673479
Apple Watch Ultra because he's blind now and needs a watch that can talk and I couldn't meme him into getting a braille watch

He used to wear a GP though

>>17673479
>>17673356

>>17673409
Same reason why Meteorite, Crystal and MOP dials are popular. Just like how those dials have varying patterns which can be advertised to make your watch unique, Bronze watches accrue patina that's unique to you.

whats with the englisch tichers ova hear bros?

>>17673156
What is the official chinese fighter pilot watch anyway?

>>17673479
Hopefully the Rolex I gifted him.
But most probably the Citizen.

why are small wrists discriminated against?

i hate finding a design I like only to realize its too big for my wrist

>>17673510
They aren't, you're just too poor to afford watches that fit you

The market for a tasteful watch for a small wrist is niche and cost insensitive, most poors will just settle for whatever and move on

>>17673384
those shorts have been old-fashioned for like 15 years bro come on

>>17673510
Because America is the largest market and America also has the largest people.

>>17673479
Hulk Submariner
Batman GMT
Speedmaster
2 tone Daytona
Milgauss
BB58
90s Sea Dweller

>>17673479
>grandfather always talks about his watches
>thought he had some amazing collection due to how much he talked about them
>find out he only has a handful of fucking dollar store KO timex and unbranded quartz
I don't think I'll ever have respect for him now.

>>17673545
Based gramps with the watch bait and switch. I'll do the same with my ungrateful offspring

>>17673510
Because they are for women.

>>17673108
>So what is the cheapest way for me to get into a high end luxury category? Preferably something sporty that can be daily
A used split second chronograph or Foudroyante chronograph from Girard Perregaux. Somewhere around 3-6k for stainless and you can get some gold ones for less than 10k.
Stay away from the laurado, its movement is nothing special.
https://www.chrono24.com/girardperregaux/girard-perregaux-sport-classique-foudroyante-chronograph-ss-le-ref-90240--id27203528.htm
https://www.chrono24.com/girardperregaux/ferrari-foudroyante-split-second-chronograph-yellow-gold-on-strap-with-white-dial--id22827732.htm
https://www.chrono24.com/girardperregaux/girard-perregaux-sport-classique-foudroyante-automatic--id11101000.htm
https://www.chrono24.com/girardperregaux/-ferrari-275-lemans-chronograph--809000111146--steel--id24744978.htm
https://www.chrono24.com/girardperregaux/ferrari-foudroyante-split-second-chronograph-yellow-gold-on-strap-with-white-dial--id22827732.htm

>>17673526
And what do YOU wear?

>>17673550
Fags can't have legitimate children, anon.

>>17673510
>Laco-Frankfurt-GMT-21
>43mm diameter
>50mm lug to lug
i would rock this size on 15cm wrist and above and not think twice about it. if you are under 15 then it must really suck for you with all new watches being 42+

>>17673557
Stay mad and poor loser.

>>17673555
Actually kino

>>17673556
2 vintage 70s Heuers
Speedmaster triple date that he gave me
Vintage Chronosport Sea Quartz
Vintage Seiko chronograph
Vintage Seiko diver

>>17673561
Seethe, cope, dilate, etc lol

>>17673555
That Ferrari seems like a steal for 3 grand

>>17673284
If you look at this post >>17673256 you can see that GS at the bottom is only "mechanical only". "Micro Artist Studio" at 300+ hours is GS. Why they were split in the chart we can only assume.

>>17673545
My grandfather was the opposite. I never knew he was wealthy because he lived frugally like most of the WW2/Great Depression generation. He worked as an engineer with some defense contractor. I never looked at his watch because it just looked like the same cheesy gold watch that every person of that age wears. (Plus, a child that cares that much about watches is probably not normal in the head.)

A few years after he died I asked my father if he still had his dad's watch. He still did, in a box with all of Grampa's other stuff.
Turns out it was a gold Patek, an automatic Calatrava on a bracelet. Large for the time at 35mm.

I thought it would have been nice to be able to talk about watches with him but then I realized he probably didn't actually care about watches. Very few people actually do.

>>17673558
>suck for you with all new watches being 42+
if you are rich you will not have that problem.

>>17673555
>>17673571
sorry but wearing a ferrari watch is cringe unless you drive an actual ferrari, that's why these things are so cheap

>>17673333
Is PRX the must have watch for 2023?

>>17673545
LOL my grandfather promised me a 'gold watch' and a 'silver watch' when he died then it turned out they were some noname Swiss shitters you can probably guess the gold was fake gold paint and silver was just steel what a fucking piece of shit.

>>17673582
Ferrari drivers wear Richard Mille watches

>>17673256
>Minerva
Holy sovl.
>$30k
Ouch.

>>17673578
I do so really to him about watches, and recently bought him a Hamilton(a brand he talked about a lot despite not owning one himself) a few years back and he still wears today as a daily, despite him being getting into his 90s. I just felt that since he always talked about watches he'd have a more interesting collection to show off. I don't even care about inheritance or anything, I just thought he'd be better than the average /wt/ shitposter.

i'm cooming

>>17673571
>That Ferrari seems like a steal for 3 grand
I shouldn't have linked that one, it's just a modular chrono on an eta movement

>>17673589
>leaving your watch components floating haplessly outside of their casing

thoughts?
too gimmicky?

>>17673365
Correlation does not equal causation but damn.

R8

these sell for over 1k now? wtf
time for a reissue

>>17673616
Legitimately looks like a $20 watch.

>>17673593
>47mm

>>17673567
>your dad

>>17673620
It's only 43mm. Seethe wristlet.

>>17673622
He was a poorfag until he married a rich woman in his late 40s. I haven't done that yet

>>17673578
Have any pics?

>>17673597
They are so fancy they install themselves.

>>17673256
Seeing Montblanc up there was surprising, until I realised that it was MAXIMUM hours.

>>17673601
Who cares? If you like it, buy it.

>>17673618
It IS a $20 watch

>>17673616
>big round face
>tiny little rectangle display
Thats a yikerinos, just get a casio lmao.

>>17673634
wait until you realize there's something written under montblanc you phonepostinglord

>>17673143
Anyone here who fell for the cheap mechanical shitter meme buy a timegrapher?
Where did you get it? Did it work?
Is there a trusted place to get this or do I just go to taobao or alieexpress or whatever the fuck place people go to to get cheapo chinkshit?

>>17673618
>>17673639
casio has all that cringe text

>>17673479
The GBX-100 I bought him. He needed something that would wake him up from naps and it has vibration alarm. I thought it would be too complicated for him to use and he would stop using it. I don't think he uses the alarm anymore but he wears it for work. It feels pretty good to see him wear it.

>>17673384
Love those vintage Seikos. I’ve got a 1970 Seiko Skyliner. Love that thing to death.

>>17673365
>With quartz you only sacrificed some precision that the average person doesn't need anyways but smart watches have actually useful features.

Name one.

Smart watch is just a tiny little smartphone taped to your wrist with all the cons of a smartphone and none of the benefits of a watch.

Why would i want another phone? I already have the phone. An inaccurate pulse meter has no value to me and having to tap or click or flick to activate the display is a pain in the ass.

The whole point of wristwatches and the reason they killed the pocket watches is that you can simply look at your wrist and know the time and the day of the week no fuss, no fiddling and you never have to charge them.

A mechanical watch runs off the auto-rotor as long as you're wearing them. A casio runs for 10 years on one battery, a solar watch runs as long as it's exposed to any light. I don't need an another gimmicky gadget that requires paying attention to

>Hurrr but you can pay with NFC
You know what also has an NFC? My card, and i don't even need to click or unlock it to pay.

>>17673256
>schLANGE
>100-299
surely only for their datograph and up?
their entry level saxonia thin, 1815 etc., needs substantially less time

>>17673639
>>17673646
if only casio would clean up their watches

>>17673649
>GBX-100
Wait so you can wipe all the clutter tide shit off the display like in your pic and just have the time in massive size?

>>17673479
>What watch does your dad wears?

A beat up titanium tissot I gifted him a few years back. It's actually really fucking neat, being quartz, thin, and having a titanium bracelet it's incredibly comfortable to wear, it's only a touch heavier than a plastic casio royale, probably lighter than g-shock square.

>>17673485
Citizen At0200-21l

>>17673371
>Like showing your transition chart? Smartwatches are for faggots.
pretty much
fitness bands were one thing, but the only people I know or have seen wearing full on "smartwatches" are techtroons and whatever it is fedoralords evolved into. apple watch, its own category, is also trash but that's just normalfag bandwagoneers who buy everything apple
until the device can entirely replace a phone without having to be forever tethered to one to have any shred of use, it's shit and cringe

>>17673653
Probably but even their "entry-level" models still have a shitload more hand finishing than comparables from most anything else in the prior tier. Compare the movement on a basic Saxonia Thin to a Calatrava if you want to have a laugh.

I honestly think that infographic is probably bullshit though, I have no idea how they arrived at their figures and it's really misleading to just say the holy trinity takes 30-99 hours when they make everything from basic 2 hander dress watches up to métiers d’art pieces.

>>17673657
>if only casio would clean up their watches
The casio watch faces are the real living piece of the 80s back when the watch was revolutionary and proudly stated it's cutting edge features and it's fucking AESHTETIC.

Just look at it, it's so colorful because it was designed in the 80s, back when the people still believed in a bright future and didn't know they were going to live in the pod and eat the bugs. It's cool and it's proud of how cool it is, you see this it's ELECTRO LUMINESCENT BITCH, EVER HEAR OF THAT? I BET YOUR WATCH ISN"T ELECTRO LUMENESCENT

>>17673577
Micro Artist Studio is mostly Credor and a few more expensive Grand Seiko models. It staffs 10 people and i think they make something like 50 watches a year.

>>17673676
>Compare the movement on a basic Saxonia Thin to a Calatrava if you want to have a laugh.
Patek is a joke resting on its laurels. Getting rid of the geneva seal entirely and substituting it with their own crap should've signified to collectors what was up. Unfortunately every cashed up whore from sanfran to shanghai wanted that rushed off the assembly line meme steel "sports" watch.

>>17673670
thanks

>>17673682
I sort of disagree but I do think the whole integrated steel sports meme has been a disaster for all three trinity brands. Garbage entry level models aside I still think the 5236P is probably the most desirable perpetual calendar I've ever seen, even if it is horrifically overpriced. I also like the 5172 even though you'd have to be a complete fucking retard to buy one over an 1815 Flyback or Datograph.

>>17673622
Could be worse.

>Track Dad
>Fully aware the guy wanted me aborted
>Still give the guy a chance anyway since best friends tell me to at least try to know what type of dude he is.
>send a message asking for a Zoom call
>Gets left on Seen
>this was half a year ago

Not even worth a MVMT watch

>>17673650
I've got seiko 6119T
might post it someday

Are these vintage Seamasters waterproof or not? Preliminary search on boomer forums provide answers from "they aren't water resistant at all and you can't wear then within 50ft of a sink" to "same as 70m waterproof on modern watches". This is important as I want to buy one to match my vintage boat.

>>17673479
My father left us soon after i was born :/

>>17673588
For the longest time I've been wondering who the target is for RM's overpriced watches. If you're right about that, that makes perfect sense.

Prior to that, I just assumed RM is for people who like watches like what Invicta makes, but richer.

>>17673593
Has the same vibe as this Oris.

>>17673677
They can afford to be classy when they want. There are A168 models with a MOP watchface.

>>17673601
My brain hurts when i'm looking at this.

>>17673701
The difference is the Minerva is an elder god tier monopusher chronograph movement and the Oris movement should be in a dumpster.

>>17673696
>named Seamaster 600
>Not even 5 BAR

This might not be worth it, chief.

>>17673645
Yes

>>17673697
Probably your fault.

>>17673650
Does it have the same case? I love how sleek it is.

>>17673702
>They can afford to be classy when they want

Nobody complain when a Rolex has a literal wall of text written on it's face.

>Perpetual date
OH WOW THAT'S SO EXPENSIVE
>SUPERDUPER CHRONOGRAPH
WOWZIEEES
>OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOD

Well guess what? A rolex can have a perpetual oyster in it or whatever, but I'm feeling like it's not ELECTRO LUMENESCENT.

Casios are fucking cool.
Get one of those old and colorful ones and look at it in person, it feels like your grampas vynil player, if he had a cool one. And it's not like it's trying to be retro, it just IS retro, it's the classic design that endured to this day, it's the same unchanged watch that was getting your grandma's panties wet 50 years ago and at this point it's a living piece of history.

>>17673662
Yes. That's the only reason MIPs exist, to display big clear digits once a second. It can't refresh very fast and saving settings takes too long.

>>17673653
They have the same finishing standard for all of their watches, it's one of the things they weren't willing to compromise on. It still takes less hours for a simpler movement, but they should all be finished to the same level.

>>17673677
I love Casio but I hate you, you're cringy and embarrassing.

>>17673667
That is peak dadwatch. I should get my dad something like that.

>>17673723
I hate to tell you this dude, but as much as I love Casio, their WEAKEST point is lume(Neobrite is a massive joke) and light(Super Illuminator is anything but super).

It's why I don't blame watch reviewers that skip the lume section if what they're reviewing is a Casio.

...I initially made this paragraph in good faith but I now realize you might be taking us for a ride because I'm sure people who love Casio know about this shit specifically.

Hey faggots, as lots of you are normies who just want to flex (imo the most mentally sane reason to like watches) ive made this guide to get a watch to flex on other normies and spend the least while doing so:
>STATUS WATCH BUYING GUIDE
Any fag who wants a status watch should buy a steel 3 hander (cheapest to maintain and buy type of watch) from the most expensive brand he can afford from only these four brands and in this order Rolex>hublot>omega>tag
Any other brand has less brand recognition than tag while costing more or is more expensive than rolex, which is the king of status watches.
Anything other than Rolex should be bought used.
Search the cost of the watch in chrono24 in the watch collection section, never pay more than this.
BONUS: If you are young (<30) or you live in a country poorer than the USA, quartz tags are your best and only option (f1 and aquaracers)

>>17673733
I second this,

>>17673667
>>17673649

You fucks chose wisely.

>>17673705
>elder god tier monopusher chronograph movement
wow, sounds great! what's its power reserve? btw I also venerate movements I wasn't born to witness but marketing material from swiss fashion conglomerates tell me have great historical significance

>>17673740
>their WEAKEST point is lume(Neobrite is a massive joke) and light(Super Illuminator is anything but super).

A168 and some of the cheaper plastic ones have the g-shock full screen glow. It's their unique feature.

It seems like at this point Casio as sandbagging their fairly recent Royale and the newest FW20 with the LED lights reserving the electro luminescence for the more expensive g-shock brand.

>>17673746
Should Tag even count? I don't think anyone here should expose themselves to Tag's infamous QC issues. I haven't met anybody whose Tag watches broke down on them.

Hello my fellow poorfags. Here is a gift I just received from my wife. I have to say that the black finish and the faux carbon fiber dial look effay to me. The steel links were a bitch to adjust but other than that, the Miyota movement seems to be pretty accurate for now. The lume is a little weak but it was expected for the price point.

>>17673677
>back when the people still believed in a bright future and didn't know they were going to live in the pod and eat the bugs. It's cool and it's proud of how cool it is, you see this it's ELECTRO LUMINESCENT BITCH, EVER HEAR OF THAT? I BET YOUR WATCH ISN"T ELECTRO LUMENESCENT
instead we got bugs, pods and ELECTRO TUMESCENCE for ftm troonerinos

>>17673754
Enjoy it latinofag. Don't ever post it here again or even come into these threads though

>>17673754
>Cadisen

Not an Orient but it's clear she did her homework. They tend to be the cheapest brand I know that actually goes out of their way to use superior materials like sapphire glass and titanium for <$150 watches.

No doubt she'd bite the bullet with an AD if you'd ever want a Rolex. You're one lucky fucker.

>>17673750
The new casio led lights actually provide full quality illumination and they switched because EL has long term reliability issues. The new led backlights have come a long way since the F91w

>>17673751
Doesn't matter if it works lmfao it just matters if your third world shithole thinks it's a good brand (I never heard of any that do but I guess it works in like Colombia or some shit?)

>>17673645
I own one, it’s great and I’ve seen them in use at plenty of shops where watchmakers work

>>17673764
hmm, any recommendation for an affordable one? There's a bunch of brands on Amazon and I'm not really sure which one isn't a scam.

Marathoned jihn wack 4 the other day and as usual they were shilling this literal who brand.
Besides those films, I've not noticed these anywhere or on anything at all. Bond sells omega to copers and larping midlifecrisisers in droves that can't afford rolex, and yet this brand hasn't made an ounce of impact despite being in the hot meme action series of the decade.
Anyone ever actually seen anyone wear a carl f buchererer?

>>17673749
Next time just say you don’t understand watchmaking and save us all the time of reading your inane posts.

>>17673763
>Doesn't matter if it works

It somewhat does when Tags tend to be at least over $1500 minimum second hand. That's one pricy gamble.

>>17673763
Southern european.
Nice watch brand here and the default upper middle class watch for ppl that arent watch autists

>>17673769
I accept your concession

>>17673759
That's called tan.

>>17673761
Yup Sapphire glass and 200m WR.
>Rolex
I hope that she'd get a Speedmaster instead. But yeah I'm lucky.

>>17673768
No, and what the fuck

I always felt like John Wick was at least an Omega guy.

>>17673764
From where did you get it? Are there fakes of it that should be worried about? Chinks fake everything after all, including their own knockoff shit.

>>17673762
>The new casio led lights actually provide full quality illumination and they switched because EL has long term reliability issues. The new led backlights have come a long way since the F91w

I had a small g-shock as a kid with EL, an F91w and a royale to compare. The f91w is actually visible in the dark, albeit one sided lighting just looks ugly. The royale has a powerful lighting in a nice orange color, but i don't like that it's uneven bright at the bottom and dim at the top, the EM glow was cool because it's uniform across the entire screen and it also made a high pitch barely audible electric PIIIIIIIIIIP sound, i swear i could hear it as a child.

I feel like EM is cool and it's the casio's unique feature that nobody else has.

>>17673780
I went back to the first film and it's not as heavy shillage. The pause on the watch is enough that you can see the brand once near the start and that's it, but by the latest film every watch in the film including the blind guy's pocketwatch has ample seconds focused on the name.

>>17673692
Damn. Sorry.
That's probably whats leads people into shit like fakes and "homages".

>>17673705
>monopusher

>>17673768
not my thing at all, these are way too thick

>>17673791
T. Grand seiko anglage anon, beware of islander dogshit anon, literally whoa actress anon, probably bread clock anon too

>>17673771
You can get this for a little less than $900 if you have patience and search one for a pair of weeks
>Swiss
>200m wr w screw down crown
>4th most recognized luxury watch brand
> Maintenance is $10 every 4 years
Idk why retards shit on tag. They are the best watches on the market for their price if you buy them USED

>>17673774
Lucky guy, enjoy your wife, new watch, and your future sneedmaster

>>17673802
Not my cup of tea, unfortunately. I'm just trying to keep my watch collection at three and all GMT. It's just that I can't recommend them in good faith either because, again, I haven't met a person whose Tag watches haven't failed on them. I used to think that was something that was exaggerated online.

>>17673804
Best part is, since he'd rather a Moonwatch, there's no cucking required.

Rolex bros on the other hand...

>>17673783
Like i said the reason they are slowly replacing the EL backlit models is that they are known to fail overtime, it's even mentioned in the manuals.
https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/electro-luminescent-light-el-losing-its-illuminating-power-after-very-long-term-usage.217977/
The new led modules in the gshocks evenly illuminate the whole display and don't loose brightness overtime.

Thoughts on the new Seiko GMT/Diver watches? Thinking about picking up either Black or Green but not sure if its worth the price they are asking.

>>17673833
Are these as large as the marinemaster? Of is it that smaller babyMM size?

>>17673833
>$1700
this had better be bait

>>17673833
I can't keep up with all their latest releases. They look nice but a bit too chunky for me.

>>17673833
Unless they're $50... it's a fucking Seiko retard.

>>17673746
Retard opinion/10

>>17673833
I'm iffy about them mainly because it's in the price range of second hand Prospex GMT watches equipped with Spring Drives.

It gets worse if you're a GMT nutter like me since these releases are going to be using 6R54 which is pretty much in the same ballpark as the Miyota 9075 with the sole tradeoff being Seiko having 31 more hours in terms of power reserve. Microbrands offer better value overall due to more dial variety while offering the same accuracy and materials.

I'm talking a lot of shit but by god, that limited edition arctic blue dial is hard to resist.

>>17673834
Not that guy but here's the specs.

>>17673851
>6R movement
>Caller GMT
>$1500

FUCK OFF SEIKO

Big Seikofag here.
New Seikos aren't worth it.
That is all.

>>17673833
>not a true gmt
Cringe

>>17673858
Nvm it is a true gmt. Now they just need to make an explorer ii homage that isn't grand basedko and less than 2k with that movement and I would consider it

>>17673860
Reading comprehension fail it said gmt hand

>>17673857
>>17673847 here

I can say the same about myself but yea even I can't defend this. There's a ton of Microbrands that only cost 1/3rd of what this shitter offers but with so much more.

Like even as a Seikofag, I'd rather go for the Mido Ocean Star GMT for $500 less and with better accuracy(-2/+8 seconds).

>>17673833
Modern Seiko is a complete joke.

>>17673870
I dunno man, 72 hour power reserve? What's the beat rate?

>>17673874
21600 bph

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>>17673156
Pagani Design moonwatch

is this a good watch? how much does it cost

>>17673746

>>17673165
Omega Speedy and call it a day, it is not sub $5000. Probably the easiest watch for people to know you have a $7k watch on your wrist.

>>17673768
I actually copped it because of the movies just like I copped the Seamaster from the Pierce Brosnan days.
If the Hamilton used on Interstellar was actually available I would have pulled the trigger too.