/fa/ - Fashion

>>17655004
I installed instagram to look at watches and got this algorithm that was all literal jews buying and selling luxury watches to each other in their jewelry stores. It changed my perspective about aftermarket prices.

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
200-250€ max
> Watch type
i need a dress watch, a diver/dress hybrid would also be ok
> Movement
doesnt matter
> Desired features
10bar would be nice, 5bar minimum - daydate would be nice but not a must
> Preferred strap option
doesnt matter
> Wrist size or desired watch size
doesnt matter

The watch has to match green/grey clothes.

>>17655014
It's not as much of a scam as diamonds themselves, but watches are close second.
It costs 2k to make a Rolex, the rest is profit.

>>17655018
>200-250€ max
Seiko 5, maybe a Tissot PRX at discount.

Thoughts on Chrono24?

Thinking about getting a Rolex OP from them and the seller is in Japan.

The site says it only sells genuine watches, but is that true?

>>17655129
It's shipped from seller to buyer directly, they can't tell if it's fake.
They do keep your money for 14 days leaving you time to dispute the purchase before the seller gets it but I don't think it makes a meaningful difference.
As usual buy the seller, not the watch. If he has 1k+ transactions with 4-5 stars it's unlikely he's flipping fakes.

>>17655129
this >>17655144 and only buy from pro sellers.

>>17655022
Everything you buy from a manufacturer is ridiculously overpriced but that's always the case. My conclusion is that aftermarket prices not being determined by consumers.

I propose a ban on all end links that are made out of a single piece of metal.

>>17655129
i've bought probably 7 or 8 watches through Chrono24. rules to follow are:

- do not buy from southern european (i have had 2 separate italian sellers try to fuck me over), eastern european, or latin american sellers
- japanese sellers are the most honest. what you see is what you will get, but strangely most of the time the watches they sell on chrono24 are scratched to hell for some reason, but they are honest about it. their watches also usually sell for higher prices than in the West.
- make sure they have plenty of good reviews, even if it's an AD
- if a seller has a picture of the watch that looks like a stock photo, there's a 99% chance that they themselves do not have the watch on hand and they plan on just buying the watch themselves and then sending it to you, avoid these people/AD's
- as soon as you receive the watch have it inspected. there's a period of time where you can have chrono24 get you your money back, while it's in their escrow
- document everything
- unless you REALLY trust the seller, only use credit cards or the escrow service for payments. if it's an international seller avoid direct bank transfers, even if they offer a lower price for the watch

Let me guess, you need more?

>>17655174
Who makes end links that aren't a single piece? Who makes bracelet links that aren't a single piece?

Thoughts on Lorier Hyperion?
Been looking for a vintage Pepsi gmt in a broke boi price range, and I’d rather avoid Chinese “homages” if possible.
Not super confident about quality control at San Martin et al

>>17655181
Thanks for rundown. Not the current guy you're replying to but I asked in the last thread and you replied to me in the now 404'd one
>italy
That little flag always made me feel uneasy whenever I saw someone list something I wanted from there.
I'm looking at the moment at vintage stuff dating to say the late 80's/early 90's. I suppose stick to the Japs as you say.
Thanks for all this; I'll keep it in mind.

id on this watch?
please and thank you

>>17655194
It has the bezel colors but none of the proportions and the strap is horrendous. I'd rather get a Seiko SKX009K2.

>>17655196
Panerai Bukkake XS015

>>17655207
thanks

>>17655194
damn i love this


is the brand nice?

>>17655227
Not sure lol, it’s a New York based micro brand, they use miyota movements. Most of their stuff is out of stock at the moment though haha.
It’s all mid century inspired, they have a GMT, a diver, a couple of more general styles, and a chronograph.

>>17655174
Those are called male endlinks dipshit. Yes female end links are better.

>>17655144
>>17655181
Thanks anons for the help.

Greatly appreciated

>>17655014
Scamming people is the most Jewish thing in the world, what did you expect?

>>17655185
F105w is better

>>17655254
>Just bought an F91w
SHIT!

Dealer near me has pic related

>>17655018
Get a Braun and keep saving

>>17655242
Both male and female end links should have been made from 3 separate pieces of metal.

>>17655270
Let him have it.

>>17655194
End links are one piece, so it ain't shit.

>>17655270
eew, is that a 1 piece endlink???

>>17655185
W86 is better

>>17655232
Lorier is nice but they do use acrylic crystals instead of sapphire. But they’re one of the “approved” brands unlike San Martin or Steinhart

unironically lusting

>>17655296
I love this watch kek would be great to wear while driving my car through the crowd at a pride parade

>>17655295
How are San Martin and Steinhart "unapproved?"

>>17655274
You're a fucking moron.

>>17655018

Orient Maestro would be perfect for you.

>>17655311
I'm still waiting for him to explain who the fuck actually makes multiple separate piece links.

>>17655317
Nobody apparently. But they should.
>>17655270
It's a chonker.

>>17655014
why do you think its called jewelry

Is it legal to wear a steel watch with gold jewelry?

>>17655358
Yes. You must buy a GOLD watch.

>>17655194
my brother in christ, do not worry about san martin. not to shill, but they BTFO everybody else in their price range. also i cannot stand Lorier's lugs personally.

>>17655325
>But they should
Explain why and how you fucking nitwit. I know you're a fucking retard who doesn't know what he's talking about I just want you to prove it.

>>17655358
no you will hunted down by spergs and punished for your transgression

>>17655358
It will just look bad and show that you have poor taste. Match your metals.

>>17655358
its only allowed if you are wearing a two tone rolex datejust

>>17655368
>why
So they match the bracelet perfectly.
>how
Just like every link in the bracelet is separate, so too should the end link be made out of three separate pieces. If they can make 60 separate links for the bracelet they can make additional 6 for the end links.

>>17655379
I knew you're a fucking retard who doesn't know what he's talking about. Those are called female end links you pea brained cretin.

>>17655385
Why is it so hard to understand? No matter if they are male or female, the end link should be made out of three separate pieces of metal, not one.

>>17655194
Get the Timex Q GMT

>>17655388
God you're so fucking dense. I can't stand you idiots. At best your idea would only be an end link made from 2 pieces since the center link is part of the bracelet, not the end link, and no one makes 2 piece end links because it would make the bracelet jangly as fuck. There's a reason people like solid end links.

>>17655379
But every link isn't separate though.

>>17655393
In this case >>17655379 the center link would have to be separate as well so that the curve would match the case. Imagine cutting the now solid end link into three pieces and then assembling it.

>>17655379
bruh

>>17655402
I'm convinced you're a troll. No one can be this stupid.

>>17655367
God I want this watch without the fuck ugly snowflake hands

>>17655413

>>17655403
Who is more retarded, the vtuberposter or the clueless about watches anon?

>>17655419

>>17655418
Those aren't all one piece though.

Look at it, it's clearly made out of one piece but they tried to make it look like it's three pieces, it's blatantly fake, it's like a trans woman.
YOU WILL NEVER BE A REAL END LINK!
>>17655427
Of course they aren't, but they should be.

Are there any decent milgauss cope watches? They don't have to be actual copies, I'm just looking for an affordable automatic with that same energy that's halfway decent quality.

>>17655429
If there were any benefit to making them separate pieces they probably would be.

>>17655417
idk, i like it. but yes, mercedes hands would be good too. im waiting for a good san martin explorer ii copy. as long as it's not a maxi case monstrosity

It stands out so much, the bracelet links are sharp and crisp, and the end link is like a blob of half licked Werther's Originals. Ruins the entire look.

Post ugly bracelets

>>17655274
This autist is unironically correct, it would look way better.

>>17655447
Looks like Inarius' watch.

Rolex OP 36mm or Omega speedy help me choose bros

>>17655447
Tags are pretty comfy to wear for me, sucks that I lost it playing around in the water in Crete but it was pretty old and quartz. I wouldn't buy another one though, anything other than a Rolex as your first real watch is a serious cope.

>>17655453
Personally I'd get a speedy, but you should get whichever one you'd be happier with.

>>17655453
OP36 in the Tiffany dial, if you get bored with it you can sell it for twice the price you got it for.

>>17655460
But only after waiting in line for 5 years to buy it for retail.

>>17655453
Speedy 100 percent. Op is boring as fuck, get an explorer I or datejust if you need a Rolex

>>17655468
Err the Tiff dial is only running until 2024.

Has anyone here ever been tempted by the "birthdate watch" maymay?
If you could choose a watch dating from the year of your birth, what would you choose? Would you daily it?

>>17655480
Shit taste

>>17655502
>birthdate is the same year this came out
The prices seems to be on the decline, but there's also rumors of Rolex releasing a Subby 39 again with the recent success of the Pelagos 39 and BB58.

I honestly think this is one of the most aesthetic watch ever made.

>>17655502
Nah the birthday watch thing is pretty pointless to be honest. One of my watches just so happened to be made in the same month as my birthday (but decades beforehand), and to me it's just a mildly amusing coincidence and nothing more.

>>17655506
Shit taste is ever choosing an OP. It's a cope watch for not being able to get a real Rolex. A Tudor is a better choice than an OP.

>>17655515
Is that a 14060?
I'm on the cusp of 5513 and 14060.
I recall reading some watch autist screed about how the old sub movements, pre-14060 etc., were pieces of engineering beauty and "true workhorses" and that was lost come the 90's onward.
I dunno enough about them to be able to tell what's a good price, condition or just how viable it it to wear daily a sub from the late 80's.
Are these still able to be serviced? I know rolex has a kind of cutoff point where they just run out of old parts like how a couple of years ago a range of 70's day-dates dropped in price and you could pick one up for 10k, and this was partially due to the fact that rolex service centers were out of parts or something.

>>17655525
Exactly. OP is the worst entry level Rolex in existence

>>17655530
Ahem

wassup watch autists, recommend me a funky white dial automatic with arabic numerals for $500 more or less

>>17655534
Wtf were they thinking? It looks like one of mock up things watch threads on here of old used to put together to emphasize the absurdity of some brand or to intentionally make a fugly model that looks fake.
I can't believe that shit's real.

>>17655534
I like it

i hate bracelets so much bros, its unreal

>>17655564
Sounds like you've only used shitty ones.

>>17655566
its not about that. i hate the aesthetic

Baltany makes beautiful watches for incredible prices but why are they so thick? Why does this quartz dress watch needs to be 13.6mm?

>cheap
>quartz
>chronograph
>alarm subdial at 6
what am i thinking of? i saw it the other day, not sure if it was here or somewhere else

>>17655572
even shark mesh?

>>17655022
>It costs 2k to make a Rolex
LMFAO no it doesn't retard.

>>17655534
Air king may look uglier but it is more charming in an ugly duckling kinda way

>>17655427
>>17655418

is this good design?
i like the way it looks but the design feels like it was made for a wall clock

>>17655447
>Post ugly bracelets
There

>>17655593
there are exceptions to every rule, in my case that would be milanese mesh and some integrated bracelets. in most cases i find that leather strap compliments watch far better

>>17655612
i'm with you to a certain extent but leather isn't at all good for summer, once you sweat up a leather strap it literally smells like decaying ass

>>17655597
I agree with you. Despite how ugly it is I appreciate the air king more for how quirky it is compared to the blandness of the OP

>>17655273
Redpill me on the 80€ one.

>>17655603
>loud annoying tick
>bauhaus design
>worst strap known to man
it fails on every level

>>17655605
Your autism is exhausting.

>>17655635
Not the same anon, I just arrived to today's shitshow.

>>17655564
Based pocket watch enjoyer.

>>17655564
Shit take

>>17655250
I expected them to be jewing non-jews and profiting by buying low and selling high. What seems to be happening is a pyramid scheme where they are selling to each other and no consumers are involved and this continues endlessly. It's all dealer to dealer.

I just want a fucking dress watch that has good water resistance dammit and isnt a basedko

>>17655367
>san shitter
beware of the dog shit

>>17655502
Born in the wrong decade to find anything interesting for me.

>>17655612
>in most cases i find that leather strap compliments watch far better
I agree with you here.

>>17655628
>loud annoying tick
Is it really that bad? I wanted to get it.

>bauhaus design
how is that a bad thing?

>worst strap known to man
what's wrong with it?

>>17655658
Aren't rolexes dress watches?

>>17655658
Why do you need water resistance while wearing a dress? You are not James Bond.

>>17655683
No. LMAO
Rolex are pleb watches for people with money, not truly dress, even their Cellinis and others alike.

>mechanic watch
>you have to wind it in order to make it work, boring af
>quartz watch
>needs batteries, lol, just get a $2 chinese watch
>automatic watch
>doesn't need batteries, wounds itself everytime you move your hand/arm

end of discussion

new rolex site sucks

>>17655683
LMFAO no retard Rolex is the equivalent of G-Shock for real people.

>>17655683
maybe roman dial

>>17655683
>>17655746
They're sports watches but with how lax menswear rules have become you'll have people wearing sports watches with suits and so on.

>>17655732
>Solar multiband 6 watch
>Keeps perfect time, doesn't even need to be worn to keep working
>Doesn't need service every 5 years
End of discussion

>>17655754
yeah theyre worlds apart from something like a calatrava

>>17655661
>beware of dweebs not posting their watches

Anyone have experience with panzera watches?

>>17655367
Damn, that looks way nicer irl than I would’ve expected.
I don’t necessarily like the idea of buying a Chinese brand, but it’s not like the US micros aren’t still manufactured in china. And saving $400 makes it pretty tempting.
Just have to decide if having a date wheel is actually useful, and if I want the sanitized dial or not. I like having the little “gmt automatic etc” on there, it’s a shame San Martins logo is so dopey looking.
You aren’t wrong about the Lorier lugs, they’re unique, but definitely a little awkward.
And no complaints about shilling from me, I like hearing from people who actually paid for something rather than some youtuber who got sent one for free in exchange for his review.

Looking for a watch that is:
>38-41mm
>black dial
>uncluttered dial (so no Hamilton Khaki)
>either indices or numerals, no preference
>metal bracelet
>date complication
>$2k or under, but willing to drop a little more for something really nice

I like the general look of the Sinn 556, but find the hands somewhat illegible and odd looking. Something up a similar alley would be nice. Already looked at Damasko, don't really like the dials.

>>17655761
>buy cheap chinese shit
with the same money you could get a real and respectable dive watch.

>>17655788
Chinese watches are better value than most anything you can get at the same price point.

Just look at how magnificent it is

>>17655784
get a formex essence 39

>>17655784
pissot gentleman? half of the budget

>>17655803
>genta ripoff FOTM bandwagon watch
no

>>17655804
Looking for something a little more tool watch-y, probably should have specified that. Thanks for the suggestion though.

What makes the hallmark for a decent daily watch?

I want this so much but a) it's a Seiko, b) it's not vintage so I can't LARP that my grandpa left me it, and c) it's a fucking Seiko.

What do?

>>17655825
Skip
because
>it's a fucking seiko

>>17655826
Yeah I'll try to get some dilapidated tiny vintage Swiss brand shitter that doesn't look even remotely similar but I'll kind of squint and imagine it does instead. Shit sucks.

>>17655014
It’s all fake too, they dont actually buy the watch. They just say “woah 12k for a steel rolex??? Thats a good price xD” so npc goyim will inflate the price of a realistically 4k watch to 12k coz shlomo on insta said so

The OP should be

>Are you a multimillionaire? Rolex
>Are you not? Apple watch
>Cant afford apple? Fitbit
Everything else is literally a waste of money

>>17655014
>>17655014
I installed insta just to talk to some mates, dont use reels or anything else

SOMEHOW they knew i loved watches and started showing me watch shit...
Sussysussy..

>>17655847
why would a multimillionaire even think about such poorfaggotry as rolex?

I dont know shit about watches, been thinking of buy in this casio for $100 because it looks cool. Is it cringe or nah?

Captcha: KKKAD4

>>17655834
I'll buy it and Fortnite dance on your grave.

>>17655875
Get a Seiko Dolce instead. I want to drop a hot nickel ball on a bussy.

>>17655883
>Seiko Dolce
What if anon is not a 75 year old man?

>>17655784
buy a Oris Big Crown

>>17655886
but what if he is? ever thought of that buddy?

>>17655825
Wow that's gorgeous.

Opinions on the Black Bay 36?
Hard mode, no comparing it to a rowlacks

>>17655932
It's cute, but wouldn't buy it because well....
But it's cute...

I bought a Speedie Pro without papers but with box (big box) a few months ago for 4800 Euros. Never polished, little wear on the piece.

Somehow I feel I fucked up though. Prices are coming down. At the time a mint box papers sample was 5500 or more, now it's more like what I paid.

>>17655932
Slab sides.

>>17655932
Stop buying gaudy fucking ugly Tudors. Get a Rolex or stay with other brands.
Tudor is going to tank so badly in a few years jesus.

>There is no date position uglier than 4 o'clock.
Timex: HOLD MY FENTANYL LACED BEER

>>17655939
Jesus why don't they just leave it out? It would be attractive without the date.

>>17655941
I wouldn't go that far mate.

>>17655941
Because it's INTELLIGENT QUARTZ

>>17655953
It's a shitter but that funky design has its appeal, like a low budget Franck Muller or something.

>>17655796
not really considering its cheap shit with knock off movements + no heritage, and pic related isnt even a real dive watch.

>>17655937
That and the 19mm space are legit things for me, too bad they fucked up the explorer with that lug size as well.

>>17655018
SNK + Hirsch Medici strap or similar model

36 mm (for 16 cm wrist):

snk355
snk357
snk361
snk363
snk365
snk366
snk368
snk377
snk379
snk381

snkl15
snkl17
snkl19
snkl21
snkl23
snkl24
snkl26
snkl28
snkl41
snkl43
snkl45
snkl47
snkl48
snkl50
Orient Bambino 36mm
Tissot PRX 35mm
Timex Marlin

37-38 mm (for 16.5-17.5 cm wrist):

snxs73
snxs75
snxs77
snxs79
snxs80
snxs81

Thoughts on Baltic?
Think I might buy this one.

Lots of people seems to like them but I can’t tell if they’re just shills. Should I just go with a Seiko instead?

>>17655534
I prefer the more autistic previous version without the crown guards and "5" instead of "05"

>>17655970
Better of the micros, that's a good diver too. Not my favourite offering of theirs but for the price its good

>>17655941
mouthbreathing plebs ALWAYS will choose the model with the date if there's a choice, even if - especially if - it makes the watch look way worse than without the date.
because they CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT THE HECKIN DATEWINDOWRINO!

>>17655989
Do you reckon I should buy it over a slightly cheaper Seiko then?

>>17655970
Good design, but at the end of the day it's just a Miyota inside.
At this price range you have some brands with in house movements.

I did it lads, I dipped my toes in the chinese special/chinque shitteur pool. So far it's breddy gud

>>17656028
They make reps of Seiko 5 now?

>>17656023
Anything else you would recommend then? Ngl I’m primarily wanting to buy a watch as jewellery but if I’m gonna be spending a lot of money on it I’d like it to be functional.

>>17656033
>now
But in all honesty, 60 bucks for titanium, sapphire crystal, bgw9 and vh31 is a very good deal

>>17655939
meh

>>17656033
how is that a seiko5

>>17656028
only girls and faggot wear their watches inside wrist

>>17656017
Probably. Really depends on if you like it more. If you get it and you love it, then you win. If you get it and you regret it, sell it and you've learnt something.

>>17656044
Looks like they took the snk809 and improved it
>sapphire crystal
>sterile dial more befitting the watch style
>no fugly day date

>>17656068
it's just a random type b

>>17656069
>red tipped seconds hand
>4 o'clock crown
>inverted arrow at 12
Sure thing

>>17655825
cop you insecure dweeb

>>17655825
>cursive Automatic instead of Presausage
>4hz movement
Just buy it faget

>>17655997
Are you having a stroke?

>>17656090
I don't like when they cut numerals

>>17656108
then start looking for the base, date only versions

>>17655727
Whats the difference?

>>17655546
>Monique Alexander
based

>>17656046
the charges, officer?

>>17655185
Yes.

For people who always winge "rolex isn't a dress watch" and never elaborate, can't you just put most models on leather straps and act accordingly? I'd personally just leave the bracelet on as I like bracelets and I truly don't believe anyone at the event is going to yell at you for wearing a datejust or daydate, but if you absolutely must have leather why not just buy leather and put it on?

>>17655784
sarx035

>>17655803
Form-who?

>>17655825
If you swap the date for a small seconds sector dial

>>17656160
A hunk of metal can't be a dress watch even of it's on a leather strap.
A dress watch need to be thin, have subtle lines, sofisticated, not sporty at all, no cyclops either, simple, elegant design in prescious metals, no stones.
Rolex are NOT fomal watches.

>>17655803
the brand sounds like they either make tennis balls or bleach

>>17655018
Put it on a nice strap and you're good.

>All that talk about microshitters
WHY ARE YOU RETARDS SO FUCKING POOR??

>>17656177
What makes a daydate or datejust not sophisticated?

>>17656170
meant for >>17655784

>>17656177
>>17656195
>It's not a dress watch because....... BECAUSE IT JUST ISN'T OKAY!?

>>17656195
He probably meant to say that dress watches are supposed to be delicate, dainty little things, not a big brutalish block of metal.

>>17656189
Why do you have to be poor to enjoy affordable small company products?

>>17656200
He's still not correct.

>>17656204
because that anon is so poor that he can't even afford a chinkshitter, ignore his seething, he's a nowatcher

My Weekdater has been behaving very well lately, it's been more than i week since i last set the time and it's still accurate within a minute (it has no hacking so i just set it to the nearest minute).

>>17656177
But I am a brutalist business man and a large part of my business is in buckbreaking poor people.

>>17656199
That's disgusting. Certainly no dress watch.

>>17656217
Why?

Is this a dressy watch?

>>17656189
The only expensive brand that’s even remotely likely to hold value or go up in value relative to these current retarded prices is Rolex, and I’m not paying as much as a used car for a fucking watch

>>17656161
sex035

>>17655022
More like 200 probably

>>17656220
no but could pass if you rly want to

>>17655963
What is an nh34 a knock off of?

>>17656235
Didn't you hear? Seiko didn't invent watches, not like the Swiss masters. All of their movements are shitty knock-offs. The only guys who make watches with soul are the ones that purchased a 200 year old brand name at auction.

Seamaster on waffle strap?

>>17656230
Why could it pass?

tempted to buy this

>>17656229
I mean, the rep factories in china are making stuff that’s 99.9% indistinguishable these days, and they turn a profit at $500 a pop.
So it’s probably less than a grand for manufacturing, add a little bit for better quality control. Obviously some of the money goes to actually paying the workers, but it’s pretty obvious that the big Swiss brands have margins through the roof.
Rolex MSRP used to be a fraction of what it is now, even inflation-adjusted.

>>17656199
I actually think this looks better than it does on the bracelet. Sure the case is not that elegant for a dress watch but considering most people don't even own a dress watch anymore you could easily pull it off in more formal settings.

>>17656284
when was that and how much was it

>>17656280
>SELF-WINDING

>>17656287
Dress watch is the most ill defined, most pointless watch category.

>>17656293
I could say the exact same thing about the "sports watch" seeing as many of them are not particularly water resistant, durable, or functional.

>>17656284
The real costs come from using precious metals(even Rolex's steel watches often use white gold for indexes and stuff), all the COSC and other superlative qualifications, and retardedly autistic quality controls. They do everything they can to refuse to let an imperfect watch leave the factory, so that costs time and money compared to the chinese approach of just assembling a bunch of mass produced parts and taking a couple minutes to regulate the movement. And if they ship a fucked up watch, fuck it, just send the customer another one.

>>17656302
You could, but you'd be a retard.

>>17655834
You people are morons I swear.

>>17655825
How do these little one direction subdials work? Does the date hand snap back to 1 when it gets to the end of 31?

>>17656023
>At this price range you have some brands with in house movements.
Which is less desirable in the long run when it comes to maintenance. Seriously unless it's some haute whorelogery watch or a well established brand you're better off getting something with a generic movement instead of obsessing over "muh inhouse movement"

>>17656036
Functional in what sense? It's going to tell the time, don't worry about that. If you just want it for the looks just get what ever is appealing to you.

>>17656309
Here's one of your most iconic sports watches bro. 50m of water resistance btw

>>17656199
You think this is a dress watch because you're poor and don't know any better. No one will care if you wear that to a formal event these days, but it's just not a dress watch.

>>17656329
That's not a sports watch, that's goyslop trendchaser poser shit.

>>17656255
Meh. Need more pictures to judge better.

>>17656330
>You don't know any better
>no one will care
Do these rules actually exist if nobody cares and you will never be questioned on it? Literally why does it matter?

>>17656329
I don't buy into the autism that you need 200m water resistance to swim with your watch. Do you even know how deep 50m of water is?
>>17656333
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>17656338
It doesn't really anymore. Only does if you go to a black or white tie event that's not in America where old money would be present.

>>17656340
>Do you even know how deep 50m of water is?
I get what you're saying but that isn't how water resistance works on watches. You really should not swim in a watch with 50m water resistance.

>>17656346
I don't buy that. I've swam with shitters with 50m water resistance no problem. I doubt that AP would have worse water resistance than a casio.

>>17656349
The reason water resistance ratings are misleading is because they are achieved in an ideal, static, laboratory setting. Mitigating factors are temperature and motion that will cause increased water pressure such that you can achieve 50m of pressure when you are nowhere close to 50m deep. On a watch like a 15202 which doesn't even have a screw down crown you're courting disaster and a massive repair bill. There have been lots of articles written over the year about watch water resistance ratings and why they are mainly misleading marketing fluff.

>>17656340
50m depth is aproximately 50m.

AWW DOUGH MARS BE GAY isn't a sports watch. It's instagram whore bait.

>>17656199
Even old rolex marketing does peg this as a dress watch.
Rolex only has one dress watch line and that's the Cellini.

>>17656361
*doesn't
like the dj, it's a sporty watch

>>17656302
>about the "sports watch" seeing as many of them are not particularly water resistant
How much water resistance do you need?
How many times in your life have you dived?
How many times was it below 50m?
Haw many of those times did you wear a metallic watch?

>>17656361
The Cellini is the same thickness as the Daydate. Cellini is 39mm diameter, Daydate is available in 40mm or 36mm. Neither is particularly more of a "hunk of metal" than the other. I'd argue the Daydate being available in 36mm would make it a more comfortable and compact watch for dressing up.

>>17656356
I don't buy it. You're not gonna generate 50m of water pressure by swimming and a screw down crown isn't a necessity. Ffs omega says the seamaster has 200m wr even with the crown unscrewed

>>17656364
>>17656371
That's not how water resistance works. A Calatrava 5119 has 30m of water resistance. You think you can actually swim in this? (You can't.)

>>17656302
My sport car is shit, it has a 0 meters water resistance, it means it's poorly constructed and it won't last long, and i better not drive it when it rains.

>>17656372
I swim with an f91 that doesn't even have a meter rating and it's just fine. You're gonna tell me Rolex does a worse job than Casio for water resistance?

>>17656375
>no 200
weird table

>>17656372
Why would you even swim with a watch tho?
All the swimming pools i know don't allow jewelry.

>>17656377
Why are you comparing an F91W with actual watches? You're wearing a toy for 6 year old children.

>>17656380
>All the swimming pools i know don't allow jewelry.
What?

>>17656375
It's funny because you can find hundreds of these charts online that seem to all disagree with each other. I think METAS does some standardized testing but the reality is it's a complete crapshoot dependent on how the manufacturer tests it.

>>17656371
I generate 50m of pressure pounding your mother.

>>17656381
Exactly nigger, you're gonna tell me a children's toy has worse water resistance than a fucking real watch? How the fuck did you think this is an argument in your favor?

>>17656389
No? It has worse water resistance than a Rolex, which was a brand I never even mentioned. Time to leave, the adults are talking. Enjoy your toy.

>>17656391
Are you having a stroke?

>>17656382
What what? I've you ever been in a swimming team?
Jewelry is not allowed in swimming pools, unless it's a hotel swimming pool, in which case, you go there once or twice a year, do you really need to wear a watch for the 30 mn a year you're using a hotel swimming pool?

>>17656393
I've never seen a pool that bans sports watches.

>>17656393
>you go there once or twice a year, do you really need to wear a watch for the 30 mn a year you're using a hotel swimming pool?
Yes, because the subhumans who buy sports watches have built their identity around taking their hideous watch into the water

>>17656387
>you can clap with a watch
typical american chart

>>17656393
Being on a swim team and going to a standard swimming pool are not the same thing. Sure a competition swim pool may not allow jewelry, but 99 percent of others will lmao

>>17656397
Obsession meds now

>>17656397
>Tfw broke my watch while clapping because the WR was sub 100m

>>17656368
The Cellini was relatively recently swollen up to that size, rolex felt they had to do it as they weren't selling. According to rolex the DJ,DD,OP are not classed as "dress" watches. Just because the dive watch crazy pleb market has had their senses so skewed by the oversaturation of the market by ever larger and gaudy sports watches doesn't change this fact. Rolex has one dress watch line. Everything else is a sports watch and others are professional watches.

>>17656402
>others are professional watches.
What the fuck is a professional watch? Do not use any marketing buzzwords.

>>17656396
Or you know, we use them to time our laps or set an alarm to let us know when a certain amount of time has passed since it's more convenient than using the pool clock.

>>17656404
Pretty sure that refers to the sea dweller and watches made for saturation divers.

>>17656375
>>17656387
Kek I was looking up a Patek minute repeater once and in the specs section it said
>Water resistance: none
I had to reread it to make sure. Can't even wash your hands with it.

>>17656405
And you'll use a fucking Patek for this, kek.

>>17656409
Can't even clap while wearing it or the ambient humidity will get in and ruin it.

>>17656413
What the fuck are you babbling about? I'm talking about something like a gshock or an ironman.

>>17656416
Neither of those are real watches.

>>17656404
Watches for divers and pilots. Eg. The GMT master and submariner/seadweller.
Retarded nog

>>17656421
Neither of those are professional watches. They're jewelry for retarded boomers who go desk diving or want to view the second time zone where their estranged wife lives with the kids.

>>17656381
then how come it's the best watch ever

>>17656393
>complying

>>17656416
>I'm talking about something like a gshock or an ironman.
Ok, so we agree that water resistance over 50m doesn't matter on Pateks, Rolexes and so on.

>>17656380
>All the swimming pools i know don't allow jewelry.
You fucked your argument when you said this btw.

>>17656427
Anon I need to swim in my Nautilus to attract gold digging whores at the hotel pool.

>>17656419
>>17656423
You have nothing better to do with you life than post inane garbage on a Wednesday morning?

>>17656423
Everyone knows that you dumb whore. We're talking about what these watches are classified as on paper from the company, not what instathots and other boomers do with them. Reading comp please turd.

>>17656431
I accept your concession. Next time I'd recommend you learn a little about watchmaking before posting in my thread again.

>>17656433
God you perma trolls are so boring

>>17656434

>>17656435
Keep replying to me

>>17656440

>>17655825

It's a nice looking watch, just buy it faggot. Bill Gates wears a fucking Casio.

>>17656381
>seething
Casiochads, we can't stop winning!

What are best normal accuracy quartz alternatives for citizens high accuracy quartz models?
I like the simple sharp look, but dont want to pay for couple of seconds per year accuracy. I know there is high quality finish too, but im looking for a daily that i dont have to think about

>>17656461
Nobody else is really doing quartz with decent finishing anymore. The best you can do is find an old 70/80s model.

Solid, all steel movements, 40-50 years old and they keep better time today without a service history than they did off the factory line.

>>17656478
>Nobody else is really doing quartz with decent finishing anymore
Oceanus

>>17656461
maybe you could find similar dial from china

>>17655803
The name and branding are tasteless.

>>17656480
I hate the styling, and you have "anus" on your watch forever. And honestly, I've seen better finishing on cheap Chinese shit.

>>17656488
>you have "anus" on your watch forever
You say that like it's a bad thing

"Suggest a watch for me."
> less than 1k usd
> field watch
> automatic or quartz solar
> water resistance for swimming, day/date is nice but not required
> NATO or bracelet
> 7.5" wrists

>>17656499
Hamilton khaki auto. Might need to grt something else for swimming but 100m should be enough I would think

>>17656401
>his watch doesn't have DiaClap Shock Protection™
ngmi

>>17656499
Rolex Explorer 1.

>yfw that one anon is still stuck in a walmart

who will rescue him?

>>17656507
Based /wt/ ignore price limits poster

>>17656515
1K, 10K, it's just numbers...

>>17656499
https://www.boldrsupply.co/collections/all-watches

>>17655802
Looks horrible anon

new thread

>>17656528
>>17656528
>>17656528

>>17656356
>The reason water resistance ratings are misleading is because they are achieved in an ideal, static, laboratory setting.
This is bullshit
The reason that ratings are misleading is that brands just fucking shamelessly lie. They will put 30m water resistance ratings on watches they know damn well will leak in a bowl of water because consumers are cowards and don't do anything about it.
(Seiko and casio and two brands that actually put accurate ratings on their watches before somone brings up their casio shitter)

>>17656376
Drive an old porche on salted winter roads fir a few years and tell me how that works out for you

>>17655004
One might think The Gays would think wildly expensive watches are FABULOUS, but it's not the case. There's something about wanting a penis in your anus and your anus stuffed with penis that doesn't translate. Any watch over $8k is toxic to The Gays. I don't get it.

>>17656284
Only if you buy trash like lolex.
There's no way to actually copy high-end watchmaking like AL&S, FPJ, PP, VC, AP, Breguet, etc... on the cheap.

My next watch will be a speedy hesalite

>>17656485
>formex
:(
>rolex
:O

Any construction bros here wear an automatic? Was curious how long one would last. I hang drywall and it’s super hard on equipment. The dust sticks to everything. My watch hand is grabbing screws out of my pouch all day. Was kind of considering getting a Vostok or something to see how it lasts out of curiosity. I just don’t like digital watches

>>17657367
vostoks have acrylic crystal iirc
try a chinkshitter with probably nh35 and a sapphire crystal, should hold up better
maybe a steeldive or some shit? costs similar to a vostok

>>17657367
I wouldn't wear an auto just because it'll lose time like crazy if you're doing anything with power tools all day. Anything with 100m and a screw-down crown should be fine in terms of dust protection, but you'll scratch the case and ruin the strap/bracelet.

>>17656499
Citizen BM8180

What watch to buy if you have a decent amount of wealth and looking for an entry level watch>