/fa/ - Fashion

>>17631208
Here is my Grand Seiko lads, what do you think?

>>17631217
it’s nice, but you should trade it in for this one

>>17631222
Agreed

Good evening sirs.

>>17631217
Too big

Really new to the watch game, this has been my everyday watch since last year. Thoughts?

Citizen retrograde perpetual calendar

>>17631208
Just got my first automatic luxury watch earlier today. Wore it to the barber shop right from the mall and already got a compliment. So nice with the sweeping hand. Solid construction and you can tell it's made with premium materials. Really excited to finally have one after using a quartz watch and apple watch for so many years.

>>17631172
LOL
LMAO even

>>17631217
As disgusting as your ugly pimple. Maybe even more.

>>17631248
Nice rep. W2C?

I notice a lot of white wrists in these threads. What can we do to be inclusive and invite more black and brown POCs into owning Rolexes and other luxury brands?

>>17631283
why do you need to post this with some random unrelated woman, what are you, a faggot?

>>17631283
>POCs into owning Rolexes
>owning Rolexes
people still do this? isn't this the same as claiming Blue Oyster Cult is your favorite band in 2023 while being born after 2001?

>>17631285
Yeah, the picture is what's wrong with that post.

>>17631283
>>17631294
Cope more faggot white boy

>>17631294
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>>17631303
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>>17631308
Give those back, Tyrone.

>>17631303
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>>17631272
beautiful piece. wear it in good health my friend.

>>17631255
Two-tone is generally frowned upon these parts but Citizens are dependable and good value.

>>17631321
>Two-tone is generally frowned upon these parts
why is that?

>>17631272
congrats. looks great.

>>17631323
you’re not supposed to mix metals, aesthetically speaking. and two-tone watches tend to age poorly imho

I actually really like this and might get it when that sweet bonus hits

>>17631338
retard

>>17631338
Does it have the gotta go fast caliber or is it one of the older movements?

thoughts on picrel?

>>17631272
>looks great
>>17631217
>looks shit
>>all rook same
lel

>>17631340
Other watch I'm looking at is a black Big Bang
Haters gonna hate

so nice to not be brown

>>17631272
Damn is that a rollie?

>>17631346
Theres is a 10 where a 60 should be. What do you think.

>>17631340
Cope, poor loser

>>17631303
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>>17631308
There's something I've been wondering for a couple years now and maybe you have the expertise to answer - Why is it that black people so often stop in the middle of walkways, hallways, and doorways to chat with others and in doing so block the path of everyone else trying to get by? In the past everywhere I've gone to school or work with black people I found it's very common for a congregation to be standing directly in front of the entrances to rooms or right in the middle of a hallway so everyone else who needs to pass by has to squeeze by, and they never acknowledge this and move out of the way until they're through with the engagement. When I first noticed this phenomenon years ago in college I didn't even link it to race at all, just people being dumbasses, but relatively recently I noticed when this happens it's almost always involving one or more black people. Not even racist, I just thought it was an interesting(and very annoying) phenomenon.

>>17631338
If this were a simple three-hander it would have been checkmate.

>>17631347
this watch is for lesbian genxers

>>17631405
if blacks had self-awareness they wouldn't have been used as farm equipment for 500 years

*makes people seethe and boil with rage*

>lolex isn't in the ultra-luxury range therefore
>lolex is for poortards and aspirational copesters

>>17631272
I don't get why they don't just use the same white lume as on their 42 models. The light greenish markers and hands make the watch look like complete trash.

>>17631294
What does blue oyster cult have to do with it?

i hate how amazing this looks but it only is splash resistant and is handwound but 11.7mm thick. not very practical but it looks so fucking good

>>17631494
>buy Grand Basedko
>walk out of the store
>your watch is now worth 50% less than what you paid for it
lmao

>>17631494
It's a dress watch, not like those are expected to be very water resistant.

Are the vintage omegas worth a buy

>>17631494
There are automatics thinner than that with 100m water resistance.

>>17631496
Almost everything you buy in your entire life is that way, but suddenly it's a huge deal when it comes to watches.

>>17631494
>>17631504
have you tried not going underwater m8s

>>17631494
It still amazes me how that Grand Seiko is the ONLY dress watch in the 5-10k range with these characteristics
>round case
>36-38mm
This kind of watch was the standard before the quartz crisis, and now they have pretty much disappeared.
Now your only options are either that GS, or vintage. Or spending 20k on an Lange & Sohne Saxonia.

>>17631507
For me water resistance is more about build quality than actual water resistance and being able to swim with a watch. I want to know my watch isn't going to brick just because I didn't take it off to wash my fucking hands. But also, shit happens, so even though I basically never go swimming it's nice to know that if I have a freak accident and fall in a flooded ditch or something my watch will be fine. A watch that promises little to no water resistance doesn't give me confidence.

>>17631509
What exactly do you mean by "round case?"

>$300 for a fucking strap
jayyyyzus....

>>17631517
The opposite of a square case?

>>17631521
>100% rubber
Rubber thread??

>>17631527
It definitely is a thing, but I doubt they are actually incorporating it in their straps.

>>17631509
Then I guess it's a good thing that I prefer square/rectangular cases.

>>17631272
based

>>17631496
90% of watch brands work like that, and I can assure you Rolexes are going to be losing value too in a couple of years when normies get tired and bored of this shit. Don't worry, it's already starting to happen.

>>17631552
>2 more weeks

>>17631501
YES
E
S

>>17631506
>Almost everything you buy in your entire life is that way
Not everything I buy in my life is a luxury piece.
>but suddenly it's a huge deal when it comes to watches.
Cope. Swiss luxury watches *generally* do retain most of their value and that is the standard that is set and that Le Grand Seiko doesn't meet.

>>17631552
>90% of watch brands work like that
More like 99% and they are all shit. If you want to make a claim to being luxury you better make sure your product attains a certain standard and retains most of its value.
>I can assure you Rolexes are going to be losing value too in a couple of years
>my Le Grande Seiko on the other hand never had value to begin with
>and that's a good thing!
lmao 10/10 argument

I'm going to buy an old two tone Datejust to wear it on a leather strap, and there's nothing you can do to stop me.

good lord

>>17631436
Rather than the brand itself it's mostly people being annoying about it.

>>17631590
If you like a watch you'll never sell it, so what's the problem? Like literally just don't buy watches you don't want.

>>17631611
clueless new money checklist, yet still missing a sneedmaster

>>17631338
titanium?

Any idea what this is? I did find Scubapro stuff, but no info on this particual piece.

>>17631283
You bring me a jewess GF, and i'll let a coon on the board. One for one. You gotta put something down as a deposit if you want robbers, joggers, and scholars running around on my board.


Nigger.

>>17631517
He means not a Cartier Tank, JLC Reverso, etc.

>>17631496

Watch collecting is a hobby. Investing should be done in bonds and stocks. If you have to worry about the re-sale value of a watch, you should't buy it.

>>17631641
>Watch collecting is a hobby.
Painting is a hobby. Birdwatching is a hobby.
Watch collecting is consoooming.

>>17631652

I get your point. Nevertheless, don't consoooom if you have to worry about the re-sale value of the watch.

>>17631611
nice submariner and GMT, but can't say I like anything else. I don't like white dials though. I like the Daytona, but again, not a fan of white dials. Also cool to see the L&S moonphase.
You've obviously done well for yourself and that is the most impressive thing as long as you did it honestly.

>>17631629
>If you like a watch you'll never sell it, so what's the problem? Like literally just don't buy watches you don't want.
That's the thing though. Most people have absolute shit taste and only like watches that are trendy. There are countless examples of retards buying a luxury watch and trying to sell it for almost nothing a few years later because it suddenly became out of style.

Pic related is a Reverso for the early 2000s. At that time JLC decided to "modernize" it, so they used the designs codes of the time : rounder shaped, sportsy vibe, etc. These are unsellable nowadays.

>>17631611
I wonder if that Submariner bracelet was originally on the GMT Master and why you'd want polished center links.

>>17631669
To be fair, those sold like shit even back then too.

>>17631670
It's a gold Sub.
Gold Subs have polished center links.

>>17631669
I don't see how any of that defeats the point.
>some other people are retarded, that's why I NEED my watch to act as a savings account.

>>17631676
They made a black on black white gold Submariner? Why would you even buy that?
Or am I just blind and it's actually supposed to be blue?

>>17631652
Learning about the movements and the history of the designs and learning how to do mods on them is a hobby.

What's a gothrock watch? Not corny ones though.

>>17631680
It's yellow gold.

>>17631685
Wait really? I believe you but in no way do I see a yellow gold watch there. Either the photograph sucks or I need to get my monitor adjusted.

Help me find a good tritium watch niggers
>38mm or less case diameter
>either quartz or anal

>>17631678
My point is, you're not immune to shit taste. I actually think 99% of today's watches will start to look ugly to a lot of people in a few years, and we'll see a lot of panic-selling very soon.

>>17631692
I agree, except pic rel
It's too sexy
Timless

>>17631686
I see it yellow, yes.
Compare it to the white gold Patek on the right. Hue isn't the same.

the greatest watch of all time
pure, undistilled sex

>>17631496
Not an issue if you buy the watch for yourself without the intention to sell it.

>>17631693
Question about these, are they being scratch magnets as bad as people say?

>>17631693
I don't think there's such a thing as a "timeless" design. There are only trends that last longer than others. For example the Rolex Datejust is considered time proof, but in a 100 years people will look at it like we look at old Breguet pocket watches nowadays.

But still, I indeed think buying a Santos is smarter/safer than buying pic related. That shit already looks dated to me.

>>17631699
>my grandfather was quite the watch enthusiast and left me his collection
>I wonder what precious and valuable pieces he collected
>*checks their grandfathers Grand Seiko's value online*
>oh
>*sends grandfather to the cheapest nursing home available*

>>17631704
yeah, you'll find the first small scratches on the bezel after 1 hour of wear

>>17631692
Like what? Most of the hottest watches today were also hot 10-40 years ago.

>>17631733
What kind of dirty ENWORD would someone have to be to act like this? If the grandkids respect you so little that they would dumpster you over not buying the Rolex they were going to dumpster you regardless.

>>17631681
>Learning about the movements and the history of the designs and learning how to do mods on them is a hobby.
Sure, but that's not really collecting. (And, admittedly, that stuff is actually really interesting.)

Just buying a bunch of watches so you can take pictures of them and attempt to impress others people is not a hobby. It's an expression of fundamental soullessness.

>>17631653
A lot of people got their expectations fucked up during the watch boom where you could buy a watch, enjoy it, and then sell it for what you paid (or even more). That made watches basically free as long as you had the liquid to get one. Give it a few years and those people will get back to accepting that watches are not investments outside of a tiny handful of very special pieces.

>>17631741
The average Rolex buyer's personality revolves entirely around the crown logo, so everything else is of no importance.

i like how the day-date 40s look but im too poor to buy one. Any similar looking watches you can recommend for <200€?

>>17631683
rado ceramica

>>17631752
There are a couple Casios and Tissots and some others that do the full day thing. The watches themselves don't really look or perform particularly similar though.

>>17631752
There are orient president day date out there but I believe they were only ever released in poorfag markets, never found anything official about them
https://www.watchreviewblog.com/orient-president-day-date-review/
Under 200€ you can go to aliexpress, type rolex day date and pick some lookalike because that's all you'll find at that budget

>>17631772
In fact there's one on ebay right now, not far from your budget
https://www.ebay.com/itm/195768570445

>>17631772
>https://www.watchreviewblog.com/orient-president-day-date-review/
I don't understand why Seiko and Orient always drop production on their coolest fucking watches. Imagine if you could get one of these easily for under $400. According to the article setting it is a pain because the date setting position doesn't change the day so you have to fuck with the time to set the day, but if they just fixed that everyone would buy one of these in steel.

>>17631785
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>>17631762
Anything that's not 2-3 racks bro?

>>17631738
Imo the huge Panerai watches are already starting to look dated.

I also think the whole Genta-inspired integrated sports watch craze will come to an end. Yes, most of these watch-lines were originally released in the 70s, but there is a reason why most companies shelved them, or at least, why they became just a small segment in the watchmaker's lineup rather than the whole focus.

>>17631303
Buy better replicas

>>17631810
>Imo the huge Panerai watches are already starting to look dated.
Yeah, but you still see them all over the place.
I think the difference now is the guys wearing them are more guys whom they fit. No more wristlets trying to pull it off. On some rugby player, a big-ass Panerai looks fine.

>>17631810
> are already starting to look dated.
people were making fun of huge panerai watches and the douchebags who wear them 20 years ago laggard

who cares about water resistance if it corrodes to shit if it touches sea water

>>17631843
I wore my basedko srp777 in the ocean every day for a couple of weeks last summer and never did the fresh water soak thing you're supposed to do and there's no sign of corrosion whatsoever

I was in poverty but now I have money, what watch do I buy to celebrate not being a useless subhuman anymore?

Grand dad passed and left me his watch. Don't know much about watches outside of the pleb grasp of it's a Rolex.

>I'M SHOPPING LIKE A BILLIONAIRE!
>I'M SHOPPING LIKE A BILLIONAIRE!
>TEMU!
>TEMU!
>I'M SHOPPING LIKE A BILLIONAIRE!

>>17631859
define "have money" please

>>17631859
Rolex

>>17631875
i have enough not to starve on the street anymore and afford some luxuries, like anything between 50 to 100 quid

>>17631879
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

>>17631881
man please i don't want to look like a hobo

>>17631347
I like it with the black dial better, what does the third hand indicate?

>>17631879
Get some casio.

>>17631879
Seiko 5 SNK803 has some models below 100$
Invicta Pro Diver
Bertucci field watches
various models by Casio, Citizen and Timex

>>17631887
>>17631890
thank you lads

>>17631892
If your really that poor just use your phone lol no one respects watches below $6.5k or so.

>>17631895
Nobody respects you for owning a watch, you fucking retard.

>>17631895
>$6.5k
why are you poor anon? do you hate looking good?

>>17631886
It's a monthly dilation calendar to remind you it's time to dilate.

>>17631869
It's a Rolex.

>>17631869
Time to cash it out and buy some Islanders.

>>17631320
I remember when an anon first edited this pic because I ripped it off the rolexforums.
Thing is, I've seen the maymay one so many times I've forgotten what the original watches even were.
I remember the first and shittiest one is the patek, and the last and best was a lange.
What were the other two? chopard? VC?
Anyone remember?

>>17631824
Cope bitch ass ytboi

>>17632006
Top left is Chopard, top right is Patek, bottom left is Lange, bottom right is Dufour. Good meme but not terribly useful as the Patek movement (240) is used in relatively low end models mostly.

>>17632044
Should clarify that the 240 has been around since the 70s and they have used it as a base in many, many different watches because it’s an ultra-thin micro-rotor movement that is very robust. I just meant I’d expect the quality of finishing on a 240 Calatrava or Ellipse to be way way worse than a 240-base perpetual calendar or something similar. That might be an incorrect assumption though, not very many floating around and even fewer macro shots exist.

>>17632035
real? i’ve been eyeing that Omega cordura strap for quite some time. how does it feel? it’s hundreds of dollars including the clasp and it needs to be ordered through an AD, but i don’t want to buy something that expensive that wouldn’t feel comfortable

>>17632053
Some 240Q macro shots of a 5140. Not bad and none of the flaws would be visible by the naked eye, but you could definitely argue it’s a little disappointing for a watch that was pushing $100k MSRP when it was released.

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>>17632091

Finishing the weekend watching Band of Brothers with my Dad, max comfy :) Hope everybody else had a good weekend

Is sapphire hard enough to resist scratches from steel?

>>17632105
Of course. Even regular glass is. Havent you ever used a razor/cutter over a glass table?

>>17632110
Why the fuck would I do that?

>>17632122
To see what it does.
Just like killing small animals when you were a kid.

>>17631521
>charge 300$ for rubber
>retards buy it anyways
kek

>>17632074
Feels fantastic. Whether it's worth it or not is another story.

>>17632229
Did the chinks manage to make the funny animated caseback?

>>17631504
>Miyota 9015
>Hi-beat
What is marc smoking?

>>17632268
28,800 bph was considered "hi-beat" when most movements were 21,600 at most. Nowadays though should really only refer to movements 36,000bph or higher. Or better yet just leave out the "hi-beat" part entirely and specify the beat rate.

>>17632272
3Hz movements are still pretty common. Patek still use them. I think Omega use 3,5Hz movements.
A while ago I was considering one of these new Vulcain Cricket which beat at 18,000 vibrations per hour.

>>17632292
Yea that's true, it's just that 4Hz movements used to be much less common than they are now.

Casio Royale or A500 if I want a cheap dual-time watch? I work with people in a few time zones, so the globe graphic in addition to the three-letter code is actually really handy.

>>17632292
>Vulcain Cricket
>choosing the sapphire caseback option adds hundreds of dollars to the price
Bullshit.

>>17632044
Ah thanks.
>>17632053
If anything this collage shows that Patek uses far less hand work on their "lesser" movements than they probably should. They use a hand held machine sure, but nothing like what say Lange does.
IIRC this was considered as indicative of their ramp up in production output without the necessary watchmakers to support it and the well documented subsequent decline in relative quality since they abandoned the Geneva Seal in favor of their own "the police investigated themselves and found that they'd done no wrong" kinda deal seal.
I wonder how VC and AP's "entry level" movements compare to Patek's current standard?

>>17631697
Wow, I'm not usually a fan of QR1ENJ watches, but that one looks like a STRAP MONSTER!!!!!
Wear it in good health.

>>17632292
>>17632305
I was intrigued until I read one disgruntled comment on some watchblogshill where a guy was complaining that he never got his watch after multiple attempts at contact after a year long pre-order. The vulcain guy actually replied asking for more info.
Reading into it elsewhere there's something dodgy about this iteration of vulcain; the guy behind it is shady or something. Either way do your research before touching this brand.

>>17632307
>I wonder how VC and AP's "entry level" movements
They're JLC movements.

>>17632229
How long were you on the waitlist? I went to a boutique and was unironically told that I wouldn't be put on a waitlist unless I spent over 50 grand with them. I usually get watches with an AD so that was never going to happen.

>>17632315
All Vc's movements are basically Jlc movements. I'm not talking about the sixtyfive or whatever it's called by the other one in the hand wound patrimony traditionelle, the one that Voutilainen said was good, basic and easy to service.

>>17632307
I think you’re right on all accounts. Patek is producing too many watches to really compete with a brand like Lange on finishing. It’s just too time consuming and I doubt they have the requisite number of skilled watchmakers. I also agree with you on the PP seal. Sure the Geneva Seal isn’t perfect but I thought the PP seal was a bad joke when they announced it.

>>17631494
Buy this instead. High accuracy quartz, 400$, obscure.

>>17632004
>Diver's
their best what?

>>17632356
name?

I got my first Casio today. Neat little watch. Anywhere to get a higher quality band?

>>17632369

It’s over we’re done!

https://youtu.be/YlFXT3Upv-w

>>17631693
Except that’s a hulking piece of tacky steel that’s getting out of fashion pretty soon. There’s already a wave of “weird” and small watches coming over. Vintage must de cartier prices are going through the roof. Those Invicta/Hublot monstrous styles are getting tired and thankfully there’s nothing we could do to stop that

>>17632394
>Vintage must de cartier prices are going through the roof.

They aren't. """Vintage""" Must de Cartier are embarassing garbage. Vermeil cases (gold-plated silver) and quartz movements.

Vintage Tank Louis Cartier on the other hand...get 'em while you can.

>>17632356
God if this had some minimalistic lume it would be my perfect watch, and I could even afford it

>>17632349
The thing is the Geneva seal people begged patek to stay, after all they helped found the damned thing.
They even significantly tightened up their standards to keep out a lot of the riffraff that patek used as a pretense to leave as a enticement.

I believe that pretense was for patek a legit concern, but considering the apparent relative decline in QC and in finishing as reported by long time collectors, not fad chasers who only know of of patek through the nautilus, seemingly immediately after they started their own seal and well, the timing's just all too convenient.
Get rid of the 3rd party that does the grading on the finishing of your work just in time for you to more than DOUBLE output?
Real convenient.
Rumor and disgruntled insider murmurings was that patek had to pull the apprentice watchmakers from their usual duties in the servicing department to go to work on the regular assembly line to make up for the lack of master watchmakers despite the push for higher output volume.

This explained the drop in quality and the horrendous wait times for servicing people were reporting a couple of years ago. I can't imagine covid lockdowns would've helped the backlog.

So if you want some older "entry level" calatrava or something and the choice is between the same model with the patek seal and one with the geneva seal, take the latter all other things being equal.

>>17631217
Hopefully it keeps good time. If you like the aesthetic, then you win. Grand Seiko has never spoken to me, but I can't fault the tech or finishing. Wear it in good health!

>>17631252
Hello.

>>17631255
It's fun. I like Citizens.

>>17631501
Yes, but you really should do your research and have a watchmaker nearby that you trust. 5xx calibres are beyond excellent, but lots of watches from the 50s and 60s have been redialed (not necessarily nefariously). Lots of good deals to be had, but it depends on what aesthetic you prefer.

>>17631733
It's extraordinarily difficult if not impossible to predict what will be valuable in the future and what won't. I know old people who have valuable watches who see them as average, and vice versa. We never know, and if we're buying for investment, then it's a 'best guess' based on past experience and trends. If your greentext is true, then try visiting your grandfather to tell him you love him before it's too late.

>>17632035
Nice Snoopy. They're fun watches, with an awesome backside. I've never been attracted to them, but I do understand the appeal.

>>17632092
Nice!

Wearing my fave today while having a nice drink. What are y'all wearing?

>>17632394
Even though I am usually not a fan of it, I always thought the Santos looks best in S&G two-tone.

>>17632412
I really don't think the quartz movement matters at all in those watches. Nobody buys a Cartier for the movement, and the design remains timeless even if it uses a quartz movement, especially if it doesn't have a seconds-hand. In fact, even many of the expensive versions of the Tank (Tank Louis Cartier, Tank Francaise in all gold) use Quartz as well.

And while I agree that Vermeil is kind of iffy, I think you could argue that steel is more appropriate given the watch's origin.

>>17632439
>Nobody buys a Cartier for the movement
I did.

>>17632442
Jesus...that's really handsome. What model is it? Does it keep good time?

>all square watches look like shit on me....but it doesn't stop me from loving the design...

>pic unrelated, of course.

>>17632435
>Wearing my fave today while having a nice drink. What are y'all wearing?
Hey, OmegaDrunk (really living up to the name tonight, eh? That's a Canadian joke, for you.)

I ran a marathon this morning with the wife. We didn't run together. We just entered the same race. I'm dead beat and have been sitting by the pool. My brother-in-law's got the grill fired up and is grilling some lobster tails.

But yeah, Moser today. It's big and stupid, but it goes great with a Hawai'ian shirt.

>>17632448
>I ran a marathon this morning with the wife
How'd you guys place

>>17632439
The Must de Cartier line itself is the problem.

It was created to be a sort Cartier analog to Armani Exchange's relationship to Giorgio Armani: cheap shit that can be sold to the masses who just want the name, not the quality. They discontinued it several years ago but not before it did massive damage to the brand's prestige.

>>17632356
Looks nice, what model?

>>17632450
I finished in 3:10:57, 28th out of 192 in my age group, which I'm happy enough with.
My wife didn't do so well and suffered from dehydration in the heat, managing 3:59:08. It's like a half-hour off her PB. She's kind of bummed, but we've run enough of these things to know that some days you just don't have it.

She's wearing her Lady Datejust, but won't let me post a pic of it, lol.

>>17632448
Yes, but admittedly the opportunity to get drunk is now VERY rare, so I enjoy it when I can. Congrats on the marathon; those things are tough, and now beyond my capability to do so with any self-respect. Did you and your wife do well? Or at least, did you do well according to your own criteria? Hope so. You deserve to sit by the pool after that and stock up on calories!

Cool Moser; I've never been attracted to their aesthetic, but I can't fault their build quality and attention to detail. Fat Federico is right about them...a steal in today's market.

I was out today too...mainly garden work, weeding, and random odds and ends before settling down to relax after a crazy 2 weeks. It's nice to breathe again.

Post more pics of the Moser...one doesn't often see them.

Anyone recognize the watch Gordon's wearing in webmrelated?
Almost looks like an invicta, but I don't think that's a brand he'd wear.

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>>17632457
>>17632448
Haha hilarious Jim. Tell the ol ball and chain I said hello and that Costco is having a sale on cat flea medication this weekend.

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This place is dead, therefore I'll ask a /wt/ question to you all that is perhaps more pertinent than it was before.

Now that Covid is over, and people have returned to their normal lives of traveling and eating out, do you think the watch market will return to pre-Covid times?

This doesn't just include Rolex OPs, Milgausses, and Subs trading for under MSRP, though that is part of it. Moreso to the perspective that watches would begin to diminish in their relative importance online as a commodity, a store for wealth, and a bragging right.

What say you?

>best diver coming through....

MOST BASED ROLLIE COMIN THRU

>>17632524
Do you like it? I mean, really? I've never seen the appeal. It has the classic OP/Datejust proportions of dial to case...but the rest of it seems haphazard. For the lightening second-hand, you need the sharp arrow hour markers of the original, which you don't get here. The green crystal, while unusual, is only interesting if you know it's the only model with a green sapphire crystal that is atrociously difficult to manufacture.

Help me understand the appeal, Anon. I 'appeal' to you.

>meanwhile...a watch people call ugly but is beautiful to my eyes. Clarity of the complex.

>>17632524
Lookit all that crud in the bracelet. I’d never get a PCL Rolex, they just magnify all the scratches and grunge.

>>17632510
>>17632512
Based meal and based timepiece

>>17632035
Non whites don't know what peanuts or snoopy is

>>17632554
snoopy is huge in hong kong and japan

>>17632356
is this just a Dolce without the branding?

>>17632510
I honestly feel sorry for this dumbfuck. He sold his soul and is reduced to making shitty fritoboat at a NASCAR event when he's not even American. At least Marco only sold out for money, he never sold his soul.

>>17632555
Chinks and japs are honorary whites for this discussion since they love cartoon characters

>>17632451
>discontinued several years ago
Not sure if I'm missing something, but you can still buy Tank Must new in the quartz configuration

>>17632573
That's the resurrected name "Must".
The old dogshitty ones say Must de Cartier on the dial. (picrel) Avoid at all costs.

>>17632575
Noted, thanks for the call.
Contemplating buying a Tank Must, although, only the XL is mechanical, yet it's xbox hueg, and has a shit date window at the 6 o'clock.

>>17631690
Marathon MSAR
36mm, 300m WR, tritium, sapphire, quartz or auto option with about 300 bucks difference between them.

>>17632594

>>17632577
>41mm
40mm circle dials look nice on me, 41mm square must look fucking huge

>>17632596
>gmt and diver so it looks like shit and does both half assed

>>17631217
bad
>>17631222
worse
>>17631252
jfc
>>17631255
hopeless
>>17632596
lol lmao

Is Casio LF20W the peak watch if I want digital analog display and countdown timer? AE1200W (Casio Royale) being a close second (analog part is too small)

>>17632709
no it sucks

>>17632712
have you tried it? what exactly sucks about it and what would you get instead?

>>17632714
i would get something dope and swag instead
i would stop buying gross chink shit if i were you

>>17632717
You fail to make specific recommendations, and Casio makes iconic gear.

>>17632721
you fail to dress well and have swag
and casio makes gay chink shit faggot

>>17632709
that's a great looking watch. i personally like this one.

>>17632729
that sucks lol

>>17632729
I think it looks better with some of the text removed.
Pic related, but I'd also take off
>5 alarms
>wr100m

>>17632753
lmfao thats awful

>>17632753
agreed, that looks clean. what's the best non-plastic casio?

>>17632724
Let me guess, you have a more swag than Pope himself? He wears Casio MQ24-7B

>>17632562
yeah
doesn't exist in silver though only gold so the pics that keep getting spammed here have been meticulously shoped

>>17632272
>28,800 bph was considered "hi-beat" when most movements were 21,600 at most.
How could movements be 21,600bph "at most" if 28,800bph movements also existed? Logically inconsistent basis for an arbitrary classification for movements.

>>17632859
As in, the norm was for them to be between 18,000-21,600. Thus 28,800 was "hi-beat" compared to that. That's why "most movements" was there.

>>17632862
Yeah, and we're still in a world where the vast majority of watches use 21600bph movements. So that still applies. Thank you for helping me argue against you.

>>17632865
>the vast majority of watches use 21600bph movements
[citation needed]

>>17632767
>Casio MQ24-7B
I got one of those when I was a kid and in need of a beater watch
Was cool to just throw it in my pencil case and have it at school

>>17632524

It looks fine if not for the hideous seconds hand. It makes it looks like a childs toy, imo.

>>17632368
Dolce, SACM something.

>>17632368

REEEEEEEEEEE Why won't Cartier make this exact watch but in steel and with a mechanical movement?
I don't want a basic Tank or a Tank Française with quartz.
FUCK RICHEMONT

>>17632890
Look at this bracelet. They made thinner links so the clasp can fit in. Kino.

>>17632859
>>17632272
>28k was considered muh huhbet
this was a massive cope for the movementmakerlets who couldn't produce a true highbeat: 36,000 bph

>>17632887
see
>>17632809
Only the gold one doesn't have the faggy 'douche' on the dial.

>>17632890
>what time is it?
>dunno lol the hands fade into the dial

>>17632910
It's 10:14 on the pic. Get your eyes checked.

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>>17632596
A shame about that date window

>>17632887
Clean watch. Wish they would have ditched the seconds hand though

>>17632891
That's the kind of attention to details i can get behind.

>>17632914
Buy the watch then and have fun taking more time to see the time than necessary with those shitty hands. There's why better makers use facets and bevels on mirror polished hands.

>>17632890
>Why won't Cartier make this exact watch but in steel and with a mechanical movement?

Because that's the point. You want the nice one? Become a customer and we might give you one.

If a woman forgets my watch case diameter I dump her ass.
>It's 36mm btw

>>17632926
i wonder if you could mod it and remove the seconds hand. i guess it would leave a hole or something where the cap of the seconds hand used to be?

>>17632940
This. People sometimes forget that there are two Cartiers.

There's the everyman Cartier that will sell you a steel Santos with a trendy blue dial, while your girlfriend picks out the same Love bracelet and Trinity ring that everyone has.
Then there's the high-end Cartier.

It can be a slap in the face when you realize there's the two Cartiers and you've not been buying from the high-end one.

>>17632956
It shouldn't be difficult, only the stem would be visible, people do that with quartz PRXs.

compass for watch?

>>17632988
Get a GMT watch and learn how to use it as a compass. It's pretty easy.

>>17632968
Why can't there be two Rolexes?

>>17632997
i only buy <$30 casios

>>17632918
The problem with 1 hand watches isn't that they are unreadable - usually they have graduations broken down enough that you can still know what time it is with one hand. The problem is they're huge and ugly.

>>17633000
Just carry a compass then? The only reason not to carry a compass with a mechanical watch is your watch can fuck it up. A mostly plastic quartz watch isn't going to give you that issue.

>>17632999
It's called Tudor.

Do we like doing this?

>>17632999
>Why can't there be two Rolexes?
Cartier was initially a high-end jeweler. They have a tradition of doing bespoke pieces for a very select clientele. They moved to mass market stuff much, much later. The idea that a normal person could own Cartier watches/jewelry is really only about 40 years old, starting with the original steel Santos.

Rolex was always intended to be a big company that sold the same watch to everyone (at or above a certain income level, of course). The idea of customization has never been a thing.

>>17632997
You don't need a GMT for that.

>>17632968
The main difference is just in the type of materials they use. Cartier uses the same movement in the entry level steel Santos as in the "two-tone with gold dial and diamond bezel" Santos. The same (quartz) movement in the steel Tank Must as in the all gold Tank Française (also quartz).
Yes, there is the Tank Cintrée and the Collection Privée stuff, but if you are looking for a Santos or a traditional Tank (Louis/Must), the difference is just in the materials.

>>17632445
Thanks. It’s a Louis Cartier Tank XL Slimline from ~2013. It has a Piaget 430 movement and the case is 5.1mm thick. The watch is too big and it’s extremely delicate, I’ve had to send it off for repairs 3 times outside of normal service intervals but I’d say that’s par for the course for an ultra thin movement. I have considered trading it in for a more modern LC but I’m some sort of retard who can’t get enough of ultra thin watches even though they’re a complete pain in the ass. Here it is compared to a Panerai Luminor (which is a shit watch btw)

>>17633022
Yeah, but that steel Santos and the two-tone diamond bezel Santos are BOTH the consumer-grade Cartier.

A good chunk of the high end stuff doesn't even appear on their website.

>>17633027
If you like ultra-thin, have you ever handled a Piaget Altiplano?

>>17633008
I'd kick your chest in

>>17633030
Yes and I like the high end versions but not enough to spend $30k or whatever they’re asking these days on them. The basic ones don’t do much for me, the modern ones I’ve seen are 38mm by 6mm thick and the designs leave me feeling cold. I’m more interested in ultra thin micro-rotor movements but they’re mostly eye wateringly expensive.

Pic sort of related, JLC calls this an ultra thin watch but it isn’t. 9.9mm but auto with moon phase and sapphire case back, but some clever case construction makes it wear more like 8mm.

>>17631874
GOOD MORNING SIR

>>17633052
Yeah. The Master Ultra Thin line is not that thin. I guess they're thin by Omega or Breitling standards, but they're not that much thinner than their Polaris. He'll, the basic hand-winding Reverso is thinner and that still includes the case and carriage.
More impressive, though, is the complications they manage on their thin watches. An automatic perpetual calendar in a watch that's still just 9.2mm thick isn't bad.

>>17633027
>>17633052
If you tolerate a thickness of 7.8mm (that wears even thinner) you could have a second hand gold 39mm Tonda with platinum microrotor for around 10k.
Movement and case even better finished than JLC and Cartier imho.

>>17633065

>>17633066
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TGV's place honestly looks really cozy

Need your help bros, which one should I keep and which one should I flip?

Left is NH34A while right sports the slightly more accurate Miyota 9075.

>>17633073
Yeah no shit when he's fucking rich.

>>17633027
nice. my piaget is around the same thickness.

>>17633073
Moste whorehouses normally look really cozy, like his.

>>17633078
>he's fucking rich.
LMAO

>>17633078
I don't think it's because he's rich, desu. He could be middle class and I'm sure he can come up with a cozy living room design regardless.

It reminds me of living rooms from the aesthetics, with slightly better color choices.

>>17633084
*80s living rooms

>>17633077
Keep the meteorite dial.

>>17633084
>He could be middle class
So fucking rich?

>>17633073
>Prop katana in front of window, lava lamp, cringe "le artsy" pillows, useless japanese vases on windows
Is this classless nogger for real?

>>17633091
He could be broke and his living room would still look classy.

TGV is eccentric, but in a classy way, so no Invictas.

>>17633092
Why do you hate fun anon, it's a den not a cathedral

>>17633094
>He could be broke and his living room would still look classy.
How? Tell me where do you get this classy free stuff?

>>17633081
He seems pretty well off even if he’s not British royalty he’s at least worth a couple mil probably.

>>17633080
Based fellow Piaget enjoyer.

>>17633092
Man deadass designed his living room like how I designed my Animal Crossing house, and I fucking love it.

>>17633096
Robbery

>>17633096
Goodwill and thrift stores from fancy neighborhoods.

>>17633052
>9.9mm
>ultra thin
Would 11.2mm (maybe a bit more because of the new crystal) be considered thin then?

>>17633097
is that an altiplano?

>>17633105
Not that dude but it looks like it. The new crystal isn't even peeking.

>>17633099
Kek it do be like that

>>17633107
Yeah, 35mm with the 430P. Rose gold with the 2000's style Arabesque numerals.

>>17633073
So try hard with his framed and rolled cheap posters laying around.
Only authentic thing in that room are his anal warts, from giving himself too often to anyone selling microshitters

>>17633066
Akshually, that movement looks fantastic.

>>17633087
As much as I love the Meteorite Dial, my gripe is the choice of color for the bottom half of the bezel. It's cum grey which I understand is a necessity in order to display the numbers in the same color as the hour markers but this leads to situations where it kinda hurts the readability between 16:00-18:00.

The Mako on the other hand is a GMT watch without minute markers. It probably wouldn't have looked as good had they added minute markers but that feels like a bad tradeoff for a watch with a GMT complication. It probably would've been fine on a dive watch complication.

That said, here's the real draw with the watch on the right.

>>17633119
beautiful. how's the finishing? the one from my 80's black tie isn't all that great, you can spot a couple of flaws with the applied indices.

>>17633120
>Only authentic thing in that room are his anal warts, from giving himself too often to anyone selling microshitters

I doubt. I've talked to Microbrand owners and the two I've talked to pretty much say that they've emailed TGV offers to review their watches and he just left them on Read. It's what got me to assume he doesn't acknowledge microbrands at all.

>>17633128
>how's the finishing?
The finishing is fine. There's no QC issues. It's made perfect to its own standard. The movement is finished well, with some nice polished bevels and very good Geneva striping, but it doesn't get the full haute horologerie treatment either.

>>17633130
You're simping too much.
Go fuck yourself TGVulva.

>>17633127
Stop shilling your dogshit here please.

I'll buy a Rolex rep cause real Rolex has artificial scarcity and I want to punish that, in my small way

>>17633140
I'll be real with you, I get why people like him, but I find his content except for the Gshock ones boring, so I don't know if the simp accusation applies here.

>>17633143
Show me a watch with better lume then.

No Helm, I'm already waitlisted for that.

>>17631895
>no one respects watches
fixed that for you

>>17631895
>respect
>watches

You're talking about an industry that's only thriving because they choose to pretend quartz and smartwatches don't exist. It's fine to think they're cool, but it's a different story if you're buying them for status, that's rather sad.

>>17633147
Rolex is making money more than ever.
I think it's safe to say fakes don't affect their business in the slightest.

>>17633168
Well, there's not much else I can do about it, but I still want to do it :)

>>17633065
That's a good recommendation thanks. Unfortunately I don't think there are any Parmigiani dealers in my city or anywhere near me, in fact I don't think I've ever even seen a Parmigiani in person.
>>17633105
I really don't know. You have to look at the watch as a whole. It's really easy for an automatic winding watch with a complication or two and sapphire case back to come in really thick, whereas I expect a dead simple two hander with printed indices and a solid caseback to be pretty damn slim.

Why are current mid-tier watches so NPC-tier? I hate to use this term but I really can't think of any other word. They look AI-generated. I went to the huge watch section of a departement store and all watches just look like copies of each other with minimal differences. Just the same classic designs you've seen for ages. I have to go way back into the past to find any interesting designs even if they might look outdated now.

I also don't get why you would ever buy some crappy quartz "fashion" watch over just using your smartphone or a smart watch. The only reason I see to get a oldschool watch is for the design and craftmanship but none of it is being offered in watches that cost <=1000€.

How come no industrial or graphic designer made a brand that makes good looking watches for a medium price? I am considering studying graphic and industrial design just to do it myself. Maybe I will also discover why no one tried to do this yet.

>>17633194
What do you mean by mid-tier watches? I consider mid-tier to be Rolex, Omega, JLC, Cartier and other stuff in that category but you won't find any of those brands in any department store I've ever seen.

NEW THREAD WHEN?

>>17633194
Go back

>>17633198
make one faggot

>>17633183
It's pretty small at 37.25mm and it sits well on the wrist, it definitely looks thinner than it is.

>>17633198
Bump limit is 310 posts, you AIDS nigger.

>>17633183
It's an automatic with a day and date.

https://youtu.be/29n2bv7F6uc?t=1407

What watch does this expert have? Is it a Rolex?

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>>17633019
How do you tell west and east though? Seems kinda pointless to just know 2 directions. I suppose over a couple hours you could trace the sun movement in the sky for west-east

>>17633098
Lmao. Doubtful

>>17633130
He reviews microbrands dingus. He talks about squale constantly

>THAT'S IT! Now I'm DEFINITELY not buying a Daytona!
>There was a time when Rolex COULD HAVE got me, but NO LONGER!

>>17632577
Thoughts on MWC Tritium watches?
https://miltimepieces.com/products/copy-of-mwc-mkiii-stainless-steel-mkiii-model-with-tritium-gtls-tubes-10-year-battery-life-quartz-movement-hand-needs-resetting-but-running-fine

>>17633073
> katana
> eames lounge chair
> iranian rug
Those were my 16yo weeb dreams

>>17633008
Hannibal was the only cool guy to ever do this, and it was the least cool thing he ever did.

>>17631706
put daddies watch back little man its too big for your child wrists

>>17633391
holy fuck actual retard spotted