/fa/ - Fashion

>>17625204
kill yourself

>>17625210
Cry more Shitemont shill.

Reposting bc I accidentally posted at the end of old thread:
Ordering a G-Shock gw5000u-1 tomorrow, I'm a carpenter and I scratched up my Seiko that was gifted to me at work so I'm getting this, I don't own any other watches and want one that will last me a long time, good purchase Anons?

>>17625214
The plastic will probably get scratched up even more. What part of the seiko got scratched? It's 5 bucks for a bezel, 10 bucks for a sapphire crystal. If it's the steel you're kind of fucked either way, but personally I don't care much about marks in steel, you're always going to get them over time.

Give me one good reason not to buy a baller Hublot with my grandma's inheritance.

>>17625219
You don't have the balls to do it.

>>17625218
most of my colleagues wear G shocks at work and they all look almost brand new or in good condition even after years, hence my idea to get one

>>17625221
Correct I wanna get a royal oak as well but I'm leaning towards a Hublot bc I think they're more stylish.

>>17625225
Get a Jacob&co Astronomia Tourbillon Casino, probably one of the best luxury watches you can get if you wanna splurge a bit and it's not as crazy gaudy as everyone claims, you can wear it casually desu as it's not very flashy and quite functional, the design is also quite stylish and timeless a lot like a Rolex.

>>17625222
I wore a plastic Casio for years, and while it didn't get fucked up too badly, they do get scuffed up. Personally, I find steel holds up better, it's harder to scratch and you don't usually get large gouges taken out of it if it does get scratched.

A pop of color.

>>17625218
Pretty much every labourer or tradie I work with wears a gshock if they wear anything, they are pretty sturdy. I want a ga2100 for my next watch, currently I wear a Casio ae1200 to work and so far it's been pretty great.

>>17625239
Half of that is probably just because they're cheap.

Don't get me wrong, if I did manual labor all day I'd probably wear something similar, but I'd probably just go for a cheap Casio because they have better styling and I think the whole "g-shock" ethos was invalidated by quartz to begin with. Do you really need that much drop resistance? I'd rather have something with a more visible screen and a thinner that's less likely to get caught on shit to begin with.

>>17625249
Well i get that but we don't go to work to show off our fantastic taste in stylish watches, its just easier to check a watch than for the time. I used to wear cheap watches to work and they'd last about a month before I've smashed them up and need a replacement, so spending more on something that can withstand that is worth it for me anyway.

>>17625249
Casio's are tough but I've legit seen G shocks get backed over by dump trucks and be pretty much fine, they're practically indestructible and the one anon suggested has a steel core, screw on caseback and solar, so it's marginally tougher than the standard squares and the battery will never run out if worn daily

>>17625249
Anon the gw5000u-1 has one of the clearest screens on any of the square shocks

>>17625238
>>17625221
samefaggot stop spamming up the thread nigger

>>17625213
I bet you listen to drill rap, ditsoon mooncricket coon pavement ape smokie charcoal briquette moolie groid chimp

>>17625286
Thanks for letting me live rent free in your head.
I'll take another Jameson, thanks.

>>17625287
kill yourself you pathetic faggot, you contribute nothing to this thread

>>17625287
kys bro no one asked kys

>>17625287
have to agree with the other Anons, kys nigger

>>17625287
kys wasting the bump limit fucking loser homosexual fool

>>17625287
KILL YO SELF!! KILL YO SELF!!!

>>17625287
kys unfunny reddit tier post

>>17625287
Kill yourself you Rolex faggot

>>17625287
In agreement with the anons, kill yourself waste of space.

Can we actually talk about watches?

>>17625287
kys faggot

>>17625308
No.

Holy samefag.

>>17625287
>>17625308
Absolutely pathetic attempt at samefaggot, you ain't getting off the hook this easy changing the subject fucking nigger, kys already you are shitting up our thread

>>17625293
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>>17625297
>>17625299
>>17625301
>>17625305
>>17625306
>>17625307
>>17625309
>>17625315
Sneed.

>>17625317
kys kys nigger you literally have 0 (zero) on topic posts in this thread

>>17625317
kys

>>17625317
mass replying Rolex troon kys

>>17625317
>>17625313
>>17625308
>>17625287
>>17625238
Giant samefag thread derailer

>>17625308
Fuckoff troon

>>17625287

Wew we're off to a great start today.

>>17625338
>>17625317
>>17625313
>>17625308
>>17625287
>>17625238
Still samefaggin' KYS already fucking chimpoid

>>17625338
kys pathetic offtopic tranny

>>17625338
>seiko
casio god tier or kys, which you should do anyways samefaggot

>>17625350
No, i will only post the shittiest Seikos from now on.

>>17625368
kys

>>17625368
There's not nearly enough watches with coffin link bracelets these days. The spiral dial ring is neat too.

>>17625374
Nope, kys

>try to sell my invicta pro diver
>buyer messages me
>HMMM ackshually it should be swiss made, yours says U.S.A product design, it's fake
>mfw wanted a swiss made invicta for $70

Any oldfags remember these game watches? Can't find the one I have a faint memory of, with entire sides made of buttons.

1/2

>>17625422
2/2

>>17625422
Soul like dinowatch

Is he still not happy about his 200$ watch lol?

Post your collections lads

I want to get a smartwatch. Main objective is fashion, but it would be good if it's water resistant.
I like hybrids like Garmin Vivomove Sport / HR and Fossil Collider HR, which are more than enough tech. But I also like Pixelwatch's design, and it's quick strap switching system allows for an ample variety of styles.
What is your recc, /wt/ ?

>>17625699
If you have an iPhone, don’t fuck around and just get the Apple Watch, if you run Android and wanna get something classy and it blends like a regular time piece, look at Tag Heur or Montblanc.

>>17625219
definitely DO NOT INVEST it
spending it on a watch might say, "I'm dumb and gauche" to some but it says, "I'm brave and yolo!" to others

Should I cop?

>>17625725
yes

Kinda missing my Visodate frens
I loved the clicky date immediately at midnight and simple clean dial so much

>>17625751
what kinda visodate?

There used to be a few of you into vintage seiko penis quartz.
Any caveats in getting a king quartz? Seller I'm looking at seems to service them, WR tests them and offers a 3month warranty (vs their mechanical 6m warranty). Calibre CLA 4823.
What should I be aware of penisbros?

Need a bit more of a formal watch to replace my f91-w. I need a watch under 500 bucks and under 38mm case.

>>17625337
Can anyone give an ID on Lowtiergod's watch?

>>17625791
Seagull 1963 without the chinese dial.

>>17625685
Guessing the IWC lives in the top right?

>>17625704
Paying £2500 for a "smart" watch which will be landfill in 3 years is beyond stupid. Stick with technology brands.

>>17625685
It's so depressingly sad that all those are fakes...
If he could afford reals, he could have had something very special there.

>>17625699
>What is your recc, /wt/ ?
Never buy a smartwatch. They're all dogshit.

>>17625699
>main objective is fashion
>smartwatch
lol
LMAO

>>17625857
If he hadn't buy all those fake shitters, he could have got a nice swiss watch instead

>>17625875
yeah, a fucking swatch maybe, lel

Post your watch and car!

>>17625787
>>17625787
Nothing in particular, they're proper movements, they just work.

>>17625774
Just plain white tissot, mesh bracelet

I'm exploooooooring

>>17625900
Morning bro.

I have £5k coming what watch should I buy? Probably won't be able to get a rollie unless it's secondhand, in which case, how do I not get scammed?

>>17625907
If you can't get a Rolex, get a non-cope Rolex.
A dress watch or a vintage.
Or go full cope and get a Tudor.

>>17625907
Buy from dealers in Chrono24. Bonus coming at the end of June? Same if so.

>>17625903
Just but a Speedmaster or some other iconic watch, don't buy off eBay. Any £5k Rolex is going to be a vintage DJ. If your only getting 1 watch get a SUB but for £5k Speedy is the best girl, maybe an Explorer "1"

>>17625907
>>>17625919

Finally decided to become a real man and buy a watch. What do you guys think

ROLEX

>>17625857
>>17625875
How do you know those are fake? Context?

>>17625919
Why not buy off eBay? Even with authenticity guarantee?

>>17625982
Their guarantee is a joke
>>17625981
Because the VC is already known to be fake. It's assumed that the others are as well

>>17625699
Dude, here's the deal my bro: a smartwatch looks good on women (but anything does), but a smartwatch looks like shit on dude, so I would advise against it my man.

>>17625900
>>17625903
Are these the 40mm model or are you guys manlets?

How big should a watch be compared to the size of your wrist

>>17625877
>A fucking Swatch
That would be better than six (five in the pictures + his dad's IWC) fakes, yes
>>17625896
Nobody would store those watches in that box.
The fact that they look like shit doesn't help either

Bet ur expensive rolex doesn't show you your heartrate
checkmate, m8s

>>17626022
no it wouldn't, shove a swatch up your kike ass

>>17626018
If you look at the wrist from the top and measure that, divide by 1.618 and you should get the diameter of the watch. Roughly.
A point to consider is that wrists and hands are 3D objects, and watches are as well, and how the watch looks on your wrists depends on many different factors, so there is no universal rule as to how big the watch should be. Try it out and see if it's comfy and if it looks good on you.

>>17626046
>>divide by 1.618

>7 inch wrist
>can only wear 34mm watches
>wtf

>>17626046
>>17626063
Where the fuck does this random ass number come from?

>>17626068
Phi, the golden ratio.

>>17625239
My work watch is a Casio ae1200 too, it is kinda small, reliable and can stand human shit and piss as I work with old people and every day I have to clean them. I have had it for 6-7 years and it is still running fine.

>>17626063
>7 inch wrist
>>17626046
>If you look at the wrist from the top and measure that
Not wrist circumference, wrist width. How wide the wrist is if you look at it from the top.
Note that it might vary when you twist your arm.

>>17625916
>If you can't get a Rolex, get a non-cope Rolex.
What did you mean by this?

>>17625918
End of May, which also happens to be my birth month.

>>17625919
Thanks, I'll think about an Omega.

>>17626084
>gets a birthday present of 5k from his grandma
>immedietly(even before getting the money actually) buy jewelery with it
just how black are you?

>>17626080
Yeah, mines 55mm, 7" circumference.

>>17626091
It is my bonus you illiterate tard but it's also my birthday so I'm gifting myself something. Ok with you?

>>17625204
What happened to the guides? They are still up.

gm sirs

>>17626075
Golden ratio people really need to get out of my hobby.

such a shitty /wt/ thread that there's like 3 other different stand alone threads asking about watches.

>>17625249
>Do you really need that much drop resistance?
No. But
>the whole "g-shock" ethos was invalidated by quartz to begin with
Disagree slightly, as there's definitely a desire to have a cheap-ass watch you can run through the mud and get greasy as shit and throw in a bucket of soapy water and keep going.

Does anyone really need a g-shock when they could take the same money and buy 5-20 F91Ws? No. But there's loads of quartz that really aren't that strong.

>>17626063
7” wrist with a 34mm watch looks fine. Picrel.

>>17626115
GOOD MORNING SIR

>>17626115
GOOD MORNING SIR

>>17626274
I don't care about not having a signed crown, but I really like diamond knurls.

>>17626275
Goooood morning

>>17626304
what that

>>17626321
a poor homosexual

>>17626321
Modded Vostok with solid bracelet and blank bezel
>>17626324
A poor bisexual, get your facts straight (unlike me)

>>>>17626324
Anyway, no need to get your panties twisted in a bunch about my Vostok, because that's not even my faggiest watch

>>17626340
I like that one

Thoughts on black gay 54?

>>17625900
>>17625903
>>17626258
pure class

>>17625922
Not bad at all

>>17626416
Nico or tgv? Both of you are insufferable so it doesn't matter

My first purchase in my dumb "vintage watch bargain collection" was a bit of a flop, it looks better than I expected but the dial and movement is loose inside the case, the day is misaligned, it feels rough as fuck and definitely needs a service. I'm not even convinced it's a real JLC. The band is se cheap replacement and the glass feels like plastic. You can all make fun of me now.

where can I get a CHEAP yatchmaster strap?
bonus points if it's from china

>>17626391
Thanks, mate. I like it better than the Meistersinger with the same concept. But maybe that's me COOOOOPING because my Luch is much, much cheaper

I love Rolex so much bros

>>17626340
>>17626340
Cool, i like the texture.

>>17626485
Why does every company make the same watches?

>>17626498
That's from a few years ago... Maybe because they sell? Or because there is only so much room to be creative when designing a wrist watch? I'm surprised the designers can come up with a new design at all after all these years.

>>17626498
Because that’s what the buying public demands. Duh.

>>>/pol/427376785

>>17625787
get one with twinquartz. i have one with bad water damage. i was supposed to keep an eye on my younger brothers birthdayparty, but i got so wastedthat on the way home i fell in stream

>>17626507
Do they though? This industry has by far the most trend/fad dick riding I've ever seen. The minute one new thing gets some buzz every single fucking company is doing it within weeks of each other - Tiffany blue, integrated bracelets, bronze cases, 2-tone rose gold, classic 36mm vintage models being released in ~40mm variants, etc... And it's not just because customers dig it because it doesn't take long before the watch news and reviewing community is saying enough is enough and it still persists.

>>17626513
What is the water resistance supposed to be? I'd expect 100m but even if it's 50m just tumbling in a little stream shouldn't be that serious.

>>17626517
Remember: “””purists””” are the smallest fraction of the larger watch buying population. Everyone else sees a blue dial, integrated bracelet, steel sports watch on social media and thinks “that’s cool.”

>>17626520
Don't expect water resistance from vintage watches. At least i don't from mine, despite new gaskets.

>>17626498
Integrated bracelet sport watches with blue dial are kino, though. There are worse trends to follow

Is £250 excessive for a Casio? I heard it's a cheap brand.

>>17626547
Which one? They make good cheap watches but also have a few offerings a bit higher up that are still worth the money imo.

>>17626561
Casio Oceanus T200, made a post about it here before.

>>17626547
Depends on which watch you are looking at

>>17626564
>made a post about it here before.
I already told you it's a great watch, what are you waiting for?

>>17626571
Relatives are saying it's a crap watch and that Casio's are cheap. But it has good reviews and looks nice.

Recently got a job as a park ranger and I'm looking for a watch to wear on the job. I wear the campaign hat type uniform, tan shirt, green pants. I also do maintenance work like mowing, weed eating, running a tractor, or cleaning bathrooms as needed.
Currently wearing an f91-w or Timex weekender, but I'm looking for something a little nicer, ideally under $150.

I've looked at the
-Casio dura
-a used Hamilton field watch
-a Citizen Avion eco-drive
and a few other field watches.

Im not too particular about quartz vs automatic, I would like it to have a date counter, and I like the crown to have guards. I don't like metal bands, and my wrist is ~6.75in.
Any recommendations? If you need more information let me know.

What's the most expensive watch you own?

>>17626577
Hamilton definitely feet's the feel of being a park ranger but as far as meeting your requirements it doesn't.

>>17626585
casio duro, I actually want a vostok so I'm selling the Casio

>>17626585
Sinn 556, haven't regretted my purchase so far. Maybe I'll buy something a bit more expensive next but the thought of it makes me physically nauseous.

>>17626612
Duro is based, Vostok is cringe.

>>17625883
No cars and watches?

>>17626115
Love it

>>17626392
37mm to small for a diver watch, then people get the watch they are all going to be disappointed after the YouTubers hyped it, clearly the new 41mm was the best watch.

>>17626577
Honestly a GShock square is what you need, I'd personally use a seiko diver.

>>17626622
I like how odd (ugly) they look, with that cyrillic text and everything. $100 isn't bad for an automatic I guess.

>>17626628
If you like the aesthetics, that's fine, and I'm sure they are very durable. But the caliber those things house is fucking shit. You can get a watch with a line produced, but proper, Swiss or Japanese movement with much higher quality control for the same price.

>>17626632
Nah, they are kino

What are you wearing today?

I'm sporting a Seiko 5. Had to buy it because I've never seen a watch with such a nice waffle dial under $1200.

>>17626632
Thanks anon, I'll checkout the guide and look the other options

>>17626652
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psYofKgs1ao

>>17626577
>park ranger
You need a casio pro trek. Imagine how based you will look when your watch starts beeping because it has detected a sharp decrease in atmospheric pressure, signaling rain to come *locally*. The older models are within your budget

>>17626577
>Seiko 5 line of field watches
>quartz Tissot
>metal case G-Shock
>Orient divers (these things fucking rock, love em)

>>17626577
>Any recommendations?

>>17626453
I love the look of these, my next buy for sure

>>17626577
Seiko Alpinist

>>17626700
Uh pretty fucking based

>>17626626
>>17626684
>>17626692
I already have a Casio rangeman
I'm seeing a lot of Seiko 5 models, why are some twice the price?
>>17626700
>>17626751
I dig it, but a bit steep for someone paid in sunsets.

>$150
How do these compare to regular Seikos? Are they like a cheaper Seiko(Pulsars) but only for the asian market? I am trying to decide between these and the retro Timex autos. The Timex comes with a metal bracelet, this one only comes with a cheap NATO band.

>>17626785
You should get the bracelet version of the Seiko, they're usually the same price. Then you can swap however you like.

>>17626789
Wait there's a bracelet version? Do you happen to have the ref.?

>>17626792
SRPE51

How come there's so much more Seiko reccomendations compared to Citizen in this thread?

what kind of testosterone levels do i need to confidently wear a watch on a white strap?

also is there some kind of skin tone / watch strap color guide?

how do i prevent my wrist hairs getting caught in the metal links of my watch lads?
i'm not even a hairy italian or anything, i'm a smooth twink with only fine hairs on my arms

>>17626803
Buy a better watch unironically

>>17626803
lazer, unironically

>>17626803
Use better, higher quality bracelets.

>>17626805
you think i didn't do my research before making a purchase nigga?

>>17626811
post it, you twinky smooth skin ass nigga

>>17626818
rhetorical question, i didn't.

>>17625204
Copped recently. How did I do /fa/?

>>17626858
Sexy sir

>>17626258
No matter how small your wrist is that still looks like a women's watch. You're closer to the women 31mm size than men't 41mm size at this point. I mean if you enjoy the watch that's cool but anyone looking would be thinking why you are wearing a woman's watch.

>>17626803
Ditch metal bracelets, they are retarded. Rubber/nato for casual, leather for formal wear. I don't get how someone came up with the idea of using a rigid material for something that is in contact with skin

>>17626803
Keep wearing it until there's no hairs left to pull

>>17626858
Why'd you get the ladies size? Are you a fag?

I'm not really into watches, but i really like my Casio i got, It looks way fancier then it actually is. Also kinda funny and real comfy.

>>17626803
nato strap gigachad choice

>>17626436
lol retard

Good for a first watch?

First watch ever. Been taking me a while to get used to wearing a watch at all.

>>17626803
Oddly I have never had this problem and I'm quite hairy

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
soft $1k
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
dress
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
automatic
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
just date, or even no date
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
whatever, I'd get a good leather strap later on
> Wrist size or desired watch size
37 to 39mm, white-ish dial

I have a g-shock and a seiko diver, I just want a dress watch to round up my cope collection.
I like the citizen nb1050 but it feels too sporty, also nb1060 but seems flashy.
freddy c classics index would be perfect if it weren't 40mm

>>17626892
orient bambino

I wear a Casio diver watch when I go out dancing.
It looks decent, but chicks keep complaining that I cut them with it on accident.
What is a good looking, inexpensive, slim low profile watch for men?

>>17626862
You don't know what you're talking about. The pic you are responding to shows a pretty ideal fit. In non-obese world men's size is around 36, women's size is around 28.

>>17626899
>chicks keep complaining that I cut them with it on accident.
how the fuck, that watch doesn't have sharp edges or something similar

>>17626768
You have a Rangeman even better, you don’t need anything else anon. save your money for a grail watch (if that is your thing), I feel like it’s not however. I’d just enjoy the outdoors. Invest your money and not buy to many non luxury watches 3 to 4 is plenty.

Some sort of old off road car with fat tires, gshock, put your money into a house and index fund.

>>17626903
New women's size is 31mm-34mm, you're wearing a woman's watch. 36mm is the minimum for modern watches 39-40 is ideal and 42 depending on watch might be a bit too big. 34mm Rolex value also drop like a rock.

What do you guys think my Hammy?

>>17626913
Scratch is a more accurate word, of course I'm not actually slicing open their skin.
It isn't sharp, but the watch is somewhat bulky, the crown sticks out and the ridges on the bezel don't help.

>>17626923
a bit big for your wrist imo

>>17626882
Overpriced.

>>17626918
Repeating something over and over won't make it true
>you're wearing a woman's watch
I'm wearing a 44mm g-shock, retard. I'm not the poster you replied to, why would I have used "the pic you are replying to" instead of "my pic"?

>>17626899
something similar happened to my with girl's hair when I had my orient mako, their hair would get tangled with the watch.
I now mostly wear a g-shock, I find girls don't care too much about watches.
of course I've never owned a Rolex or similar.

>>17626576
are the said relatives wearing high quality swiss made watches like the invicta gladiator?

>>17625922
Good decision

>>17626576
>>Relatives are saying it's a crap watch and that Casio's are cheap.
Ok no fucking shit lmfao?

>>17626577
Bertucci A2-T Original Field Watch

>>17626892
Frédérique Constant Classics

>>17626892
Longines Presence

what's a good nato color combination for pic related? black is too boring

>>17627015
What about black with yellow stripe

>>17627015
Some kinda green.

Another one for the weird wrists collection.

>>17627015
I don't think there's any salvaging a big fat gold diver.

Watch ID?

>>17625238
It's so hideous. Why would you want that? Are you clownmaxxing?

>be 4chang
>complain all day about how things were so much better in the past
>video games were better
>movies were better
>anime were better
>music was better
>fashion was better
>food was better
>technology was better
>the internet was better
>cars were better
>architecture was better
>politics were better
>even 4chang was better
>these large and thick watches that came out only 20 years ago and were obviously designed for overweight boomers? They're completely fine and you're a fag if you wear anything smaller than 42mm.

>>17627048
I just posted a watch in a watch thread. Nobody does that anymore anyway...

Post some watches.

>>17627052
Don't worry anon, I'll post some watches.

>>17627054

>>17627056

>>17627058

>>17627059

>>17627054
I kinda like this one.

>>17627060

Guys I'm not feeling so good. I like a Tag Heuer.

>>17626867
every time i've had a rubber bracelet it has ripped on me within a year, leather bracelets are dirt/scratch magnets, etc.

>>17626873
i just copped one of these myself, thought it would be bigger than it is, hope i didn't accidentally get sent a women's version of it or something

>>17627069
Nah those are tiny as fuck

>>17627064
The isograph is a good one.

>>17626797
Lack of good taste among anons.

Which one?

>>17627078
Prob right for me m8

>>17627042
Credor
>>17626484

>>17627078
C-case for sure, just try and shell out a little extra for one close to new - 95% of them are in terrible condition.

looking for a watch that has the below qualities
>sterling silver or gold
>has date(and day if possible)
>has moonphase(i like the aesthetic)
>under 1000USD
>preferably studded/ornamented with some kind of jewels(diamond,ruby,sapphire or emerald)
any ideas? also how expensive is it to get a bespoke watch?

>>17626258
Don't get me wrong anon a 34mm with 7" is fine in my eyes, my collection is 35 & 36.

But that rule is stupid, anyone with an average ~6.5" wrist will be limited to womens watches lol.

>>17627112
>precious metal
>diamonds
>complications
>under $1k
lmao good one anon

>>17627112
Ok bro.

>>17627112
Check out Patek Philippe or Vacheron Constantin. They're exactly what you're looking for and just in your budget.

>>17627114
>anyone with a (wrist the size of a woman's) will be limited to womens watches lol.
Yes.

>>17627130
This made me realise that I added a 'lol' at the end of my reply.

This would be a nice budget overseas if it wasn't 1800 CHF.
Well it's still a budget overseas at that price but still.

What does /fa/ think of the beautiful retro Citizen Ana Digi Temp?

>>17627145
Those hands are really fucking ugly.

>>17627064
Looks exactly like that new Longines.

>>17627095
Nah that's not it.

>>17627152
It's cool.

>>17627145
Wtf is a chf?

>>17627165
Swiss Franc.

Alright, I need a smart casual beginners watch that's at a ~£500 budget. Any recommendations?

I called my insurance to update the price of my Santos medium before my renewal, what the fuck is this price?

It was £5,800 last year when I bought it pre-owned for £4,000.

>>17627189
Pre-owned tissot or longines.

>>17627197
Yes. Richemont does this.
JLCs price have also skyrocketted these past few years. I remember when the Reverso small seconds was 6k€. Now it's 10k€.

>>17627209
(((inflation)))

>>17627209
Everyone does this. Swatch, Rolex, the independents.

Raise the price until customers get turned off, then lower the price to entice them back.

>>17627221
Inflation aside, the Santos is not a £6,750 watch, it even feels overpriced at the price I paid for it.

>>17625204
I think i just found my perfect speedmaster alternative as a broke wristlet.
I think i'm gonna CONSOOM

>>17627224
OK, yes, that's a completely different point (also, an accurate one.)
The Santos is very-well made, sure, and wonderfully styled, but it's a simple, steel three-hander with relatively simple case construction and finishing.
They can use all the economic conditions as an excuse all they like. Simply put, they realized they were under-charging for their watches and need to charge more if they want to be perceived as the exclusive brand they fancy themselves to be.

The used Rolex bubble is actually to blame for a lot of this, I think. Rolex realized what people were actually willing to pay for one of their watches, so they've become more aggressive in their annual price hikes.
Because Rolex is the industry benchmark, that, in turn, caused everyone else to raise their prices because "the Aqua Terra is always half the price of a Datejust".

Other companies use prestige pricing. "Our chrono costs the same as a Daytona, meaning it's just as good."

>>17627230
I like it. It looks somewhat Seikoish.

>>17627230
Looks very nice; nice and clean. No complaints about its look. Good thinnness, good water resistance. I don't know about the lume, but it's probably fine. I'm glad they're making masculine-presenting watches in small sizes.

It's about 1000 dollars, though.

The movement is so-so. (The low-beat ETA 2824 with the plastic escapement. It CAN be serviced, but probably only by Hamilton, since a lot of indies don't want to touch them.) Still has an open caseback, though. I would have preferred a solid caseback and made the watch even thinner.
The bracelet is also not great. Pin-and-collar links and no microadjust at all, just a half-link. (Microadjust matters more to wristlets since they have less fat for a clasp to sink into.)

If you can get it at a discount or used, then it's great. For the retail price, though, no, I think it's a shade overpriced.

>>17627230
I don't know why but I have an irrational dislike of hamiltons

>>17627230
It isn't a chrono so how can it be a Sneed cope?

>>17627244
>t. descendant of Aaron Burr

>>17627197
>>17627209
>>17627223
Is there any reason to buy watches new anymore?
Even looking at the exact reference number, you can find that Santos model (WSSA0029) for below 6k$ while it retails above 7k. A Reverso small seconds retails for almost 9k$ while you can find it on the secondary market for around 7k.
And that difference only increases if you are willing to look at previous models or even vintage watches from decades ago. These aren't phones whose tech will be outdated; many even use the exact same movements they did 10-20 years ago. Many watches from the 50s and 60s still work perfectly fine, so a model from the 90s can last you a really long time if you take proper care of it.

Rolex at least has the justification that their watches trade on the grey market considerably above the retail price.
Too many brands out there who think they are Rolex...

>>17627245
Other Jazzmasters are more Speedmaster inspired, but they don't do them in smaller sizes (and i'm a wristlet).

>>17627241
Thanks for the movement analysis, i'm not that expert about it. I'll see if i can get one second-hand.

>>17627233
Way I see it that price will just force people into buying fakes. I've talked in /wt/ before about the time I got sold a fake Santos and, having owned a real one before, the only real strong tell was opening it and looking at the movement.

It's not like with Omega or Rolex where you get the technology and testing, with a Santos you just get an average movement slapped into a reasonably finished albiet very unique-looking case design. There are even quality issues with the bracelet wobbling in the lugs over time, and clasp wobble as well.

Cartier need to up their game to demand the same price rises honestly.

>>17626892
Orient Bambino
Orient Sun and Moon (maybe)
Seiko Cocktail Time
$500 Patek Calatrava replica

>>17627255
Like I said I got mine for <£4,000 second-hand, that was the last model, WSSA0010 (different leather strap clasp). I got a 3861 sapphire for £4,600 last year and it's £7,400 lmao.

There is no reason to buy any brand other than Rolex brand new imo.

Cartier is a very dishonest and overpriced brand imo.
There are basically two Cartier.
>the one that makes industrial watches like the regular Tank, Santos, Pasha, etc
>the one that makes handmade high horology precious metal pieces like the Tank Cintrée, Tank Normale, etc
The thing is, they use the prestige of the later to beef up the price of the former. This allows them to sell basic 3 hands steel watches with a quartz movement for 5 grand and nobody tells them to fuck off because "Cartier is so chic".

>>17627270
They do have something in the former though, they have very unique designs which still remain desirable to the masses.

How many other brands have unique designs which still remain desirable, maybe a reverso? one model? the rest are all just Rolex/AP/PP cope.

But yeah as discussed above, on paper, design aside, they are overpriced.

>>17627255
>Is there any reason to buy watches new anymore?
Not really. Especially since so many buyers now look at resale value when they buy, so they keep EVERYthing and constantly fret about the watch's condition.

10-15 years ago, it was common to throw out a watch's packaging. It's just a box, who gives a shit. (Keep the warranty card, of course.)
Now, when I bought my Cartier Santos a few years ago (and immediately flipped it because it was actually a pretty boring watch) the guy I bought it from had everything up to and including the big red shopping bag from the boutique.

While we are on the topic of pre-owned Cartier:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/comments/11n3r2v/cartier_watches_mega_scam_in_the_uk_via_ebay/

Don't buy Cartier through auctions on eBay (Authenticity Guarantee Buy-It-Now should be fine). And if you do buy a pre-owned Cartier, check the movement.

>>17627270
It's been that way since the 1970s when Cartier re-incorporated after decades of being a group of semi-independent jewelers in Paris, London and New York. They needed to raise cash so they created the Santos de Cartier (the steel sports watch, not the gold Santos-Dumont) and the Must de Cartier line which was absolute barrel scraping dogshit.

But their top of the line stuff (both watches and haute joaillerie) has always been just beautiful.

It's taken them decades to undo the damage they did to themselves and they're not done yet, but what is also happening is that you have a group of buyers who grew up thinking Cartier is kind of affordable and getting pissy at being slapped in the face by luxury pricing.

I'm pretty happy with where I am right now.

I have all my bases covered: a daily wearer (Seamaster 300), a dressy watch (Reverso), a sports-beater (G-Shock) and a fun, weekend watch (Hublot).

I might swap out/upgrade some of these someday, but I don't see my collection ever getting any bigger.

Post your collections and/or what you'd like as your dream four-watch sets.

>>17627270
Lots of brands do this. JLC and Patek and to a lesser degree Vacheron are all guilty of trading on pedigree from their haute horlogerie offerings while shilling some pretty shocking entry level models (quartz steel Reversos, Patek Twenty-4s and 6119s that get mogged by Lange and Breguet at half the price, Vacheron single handedly devaluing their entire brand with the misunderstood Fifty-Six). I don’t really think it’s a big issue though. It should be obvious that an entry-level mass produced model from a prestige brand has essentially nothing to do with a grand complication or minute repeater from the same brand that costs 10-50 times more.

>>17627350
You stink Reddit and need to go back.

>>17627357
It's all brownie points for rolex.

Start with an OP,
>Want a date?
Add a couple grand
>Want a rotating bezel?
Add a couple more grand
>Want a GMT?
Add a couple more grand
>Want a chronograph?
Add a couple more grand
>Want PM?
Add 10 grand

And it goes on....There's no disconnect between their entry and top of the line watches, 99% of them have the same dna & quality.

>>17627350
>Post your collections and/or what you'd like as your dream four-watch sets.
No.

>>17627379
Now go to the AD and purchase it with your real money that you are accounting for

>>17627385
The same principle applies to the grey market, just more money, I've bought one Rolex at AD and one grey (for like £600 over retail).

It's the same principle with both price-points, just depends what you're prepared to pay.

>>17627392
Let me guess, datejust? If I could buy a gmt master for 600 over retail I would

>>17627394
Datejust & Explorer; even the 124060 market price is becoming more appealing nowadays.

If we had this conversation a year ago it would be a whole different story.

>>17627397
>>17627394
And all of this doesn't come down to the softening of market prices, it's price increases at retail that are making it that way.

>>17627209
>JLC
This is even more outrages than Cartier imo.
They literally increased the price of the Reverso by 40% from 2022 to 2023. And some sources online seem to say there is going to be another price increase coming in June.

>>17627371
not him but that's the kind of posts I like to see in this thread so if that's reddit I guess that's why this thread is a steaming pile of shit

>>17627399
Probably because reversos are out of fashion now, Mad Men finished 8 years ago and noone works in a #menswear office anymore.

They are trying to milk it until it's dead.

>>17627109
underrated watch

>>17627404
>demand decreases so prices go up
Sasuga JLC...

>>17627350
Nice collection. I'm not going to say they were what I'd pick, but it's definitely not the usual Submariner + Speedmaster + Tank NPC setup.

In terms of upgrades:
- the G-Shock is fine
- the Seamaster...I don't love it, I'd actually go with something more like a Datejust for a daily watch. I'm not a fan of dive watches.
- the Reverso is great. Any upgrade would be into AP/VC/PP/ALS territory
- the Hublot...Jesus. I don't know. I'm not Nico so I don't reflexively hate it. I can't ever see when I'd wear something like that.

>>17627371
>poors seething
Never change, /wt/.

>>17627413
>but it's definitely not the usual Submariner + Speedmaster + Tank NPC setup.

It's almost like OP looked at submariner, speedmaster & tank and said 'I want to feel unique, so I'll get a seamaster, hublot & reverso instead.'

>>17627398
>And all of this doesn't come down to the softening of market prices, it's price increases at retail that are making it that way.
It's both.

If thousands of people are willing to pay 5k over retail for a brand new Submariner, then Rolex knows the Submariner's MSRP is extremely low. It's not going to just raise the price 5k overnight, that would cause a market shock, but gradually increasing the prices slightly more aggressively than in years past means that they can eventually get their watch to where the market values it.
Then, five or ten years down the road when demand is comparatively low again, ADs can offer discounts again like the used to, while still selling the watch at a higher price.

This is what JLC and a ton of other companies do. Those MSRPs are not real. They offer huge discounts. Customers get enticed by 30% off and forget that 30% off this year's price is still 10% higher than last year's price. It's just sales tactics.

>>17627417
I disagree. The Reverso is superior to the Tank, especially the entry-level steel quartz Tank that the Redditors love, and I don't think anyone cross-shops a Speedmaster and a fucking Hublot.
The Seamaster, on the other hand, is Submariner cope, but both are shit watches these days. The SubC is just gross. I would not get either.

>>17627425
Both collections are still in the same price range: save money on the sub and buy a seamaster, then you can upgrade the tank to a reverso and feel more unique.

The reason why the entry level tank is so popular is because realistically you're only going to wear it for one or two days a year; looks good, iconic & desirable, no servicing, 2 grand, done.

>>17627350
>Post your collections and/or what you'd like as your dream four-watch sets.

I don't have a collection but maybe when I make the kind of money that the people here claim to I'd get the following:
Daily: JLC Master Calendar
Dress: Breguet Classic Enamel
Beater: Tudor Black Bay GMT
Weekend: Rolex Submariner No-Date

>>17627425
>>17627430
I don't think anyone who admits to owning an Hublot gives a fuck what anyone else thinks of them.
Apart from Panerai, is there a more universally hated brand among watch guys?

>>17627430
>The reason why the entry level tank is so popular is because
...it's cheap

That's all you needed to write.

>>17627430
What's with the obsession with feeling unique?

>Anon posts a common watch
>Aaaah! You're an NPC, just buying what the social medias tell you to!
>Anon posts an uncommon watch
>Aaaah! You just bought that because you didn't want the common watch! You should have bought the NPC watch! It's better! Aaaah!

>>17627441
Just poors seething 99% of the time. You can pretty safely disregard their opinions unless they post their own collection.

>>17627440
Yeah, if you need to spend the absolute minimum on a dress watch you'll wear 1% of the time, just get a tank.

>>17627441
Not criticizing uncommon watches; just saying having a 'dress, chrono, dive & gshock collection' is the same level of cringe as putting the most common watches in those categories.

>>17627441
Just NPC shit. I've got the most unique watch in this thread, if a company sold a watch that had 80% of the shit it has I would've just bought that instead.

>>17627453
Fakes have 80 percent of shit luxury watches have in most cases unironically

>>17627435
>Apart from Panerai, is there a more universally hated brand among watch guys?
Rolex

>>17627435
Richard Mille

>>17627459
>Fakes have 80 percent of shit luxury watches have in most cases unironically
Fakes of luxury watches from India have literal shit in them 80 percent of their cases.

>>17627448
>Yeah, if you need to spend the absolute minimum on a dress watch you'll wear 1% of the time, just get a tank.
If you buy a dress watch and you're going to wear it only 1% of the time, you're consooming

>>17627112
not gonna happen. just get an Orient sun and moon

>>17627474
Fakes aren't made in India. I'm still surprised they use a wheel because they are barely advanced enough for that, they can't manufacture any sort of convincing fake

>>17627516
Plenty of fakes are made in India. Not fakes of modern watches, though. Indians will root through the garbage until they find some old watches, cobble a (barely) working watch out of it, pad print a famous brand name on the dial and sell it as "vintage".

>>17627524
I guess if you consider a frankenwatch a fake that's right. They aren't manufacturing it per se

>>17626858
If that watch had a theme song, it'd be Get Low by Lil Jon

>43mm large
>14mm thick
>random green bezel
>belongs to the Seamaster line despite having no relations to the sea or diving activities
Man, Omega is such a mess.

is it reddit tier?

>>17627553
Thank you for your post.
You have been advanced [3] spaces on the waiting list.
The current wait time is [27] months.
Your AD will contact you and you will be allowed to purchase a model pre-selected for you, the [Yacht-Master 37]

>>17626547
Just get a F91-W or A158, abandon the expensive meme and get a cheap and practical watch.

>>17627559
>mentions Rolex out of nowhere
O B S E S S E D

>>17626867
Honestly this. Metal straps are less comfy, more expensive, and hurt. I also like elastic NATO straps, those are max comfy IMO.

>>17627402
>not him but that's the kind of posts I like to see in this thread so if that's reddit I guess that's why this thread is a steaming pile of shit
This. A thread will have maybe one or two decent pics in it. No one posts their own stuff, though, because that just gets jealous retards seething.

>>17627553
>Man, Omega is such a mess.
Nah, Omega's doing fine. They have their way of doing things, even though you don't personally like it.
That's OK, though. Everyone is allowed to like what they want.

Can /wt/ recommend me some watches with interesting, attractive dials?
I know the Seiko Presage series has some nice dials. Any other suggestions?

>>17627584
>Nah, Omega's doing fine.
Not that much.
Cartier has overtaken Omega as the second-largest Swiss watch company. Their growth is also below the Swiss watch industry average. Omega is losing market share.

>>17627601
And...?

>>17627433
>wearing $5000 watch as a beater
Ok dude

>>17627619
>ignored the line "maybe when I make the kind of money that the people here claim to"

>>17627554
it's absolute redditcore but I still want one
waiting for the 36mm for basedfed redditors with feminine wrists such as myself

>>17627613
That's pretty much it.
You're claiming Omega is doing fine. They're not.

>>17627628
Number 3 is fine enough lmao.

>>17627630
Sure. In a few years Omega will be overtaken by AP and PP though.

>>17627632
...And?

>>17627628
>That's pretty much it.
So, not much at all.

>>17627632
Doubtful

>>17627634
You actually want your company to maintain its position and market share.
If your company is growing slower than others, it means you're becoming irrelevant.

>>17627645
>Omega's market cap : 2.47B CHF
>Omega's growth 2021-2022 : +6%
>AP's market cap : 2B CHF
>AP's growth 2021-2022 : +27%
>PP's market cap : 1.8B CHF
>PP's growth 2021-2022 : +18%

>>17627647
But it's not your company, is it? You don't own shares in it, do you? Do you even own any products they make?

>>17627656
No, but if a company that I dislike does poorly then I'll feel better about myself.

>>17627656
I don't care for any of these companies anon. I just enjoy reading and talking about business.

>>17627650
Watch brands pretty much never die especially if you are owned by the swatch group. I might be coping but omega is not dying

>>17627657
based self aware anon

>>17627435
>I don't think anyone who admits to owning an Hublot gives a fuck what anyone else thinks of them.
If you weren't a retarded NPC who wanted people to see the brand on your wrist why the fuck would you ever get one?

>>17627662
I never said anything about dying. Omega is still making a shit ton of money, but way way slower than other Swiss brands.

>>17627658
>I just enjoy reading and talking about business.
>>>/biz/

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>>17627668
Nico, it's OK. Relax.

>>17627593
Phoibos

>>17627350
Love the seconds hand on that seamaster

>>17627152
based

>>17627657
sauce?

>>17627657
>>17628482
nevermind