/fa/ - Fashion

>>17596391
What the fuck is the difference beyond personal preference?

POV: you walk into the Horological Society Of New York with your F-91W

>>17596408
Dont listen to that anon, the Cuckxplorer is worse than the OP

>>17596408
They're basically the same watch. The only noticeable difference is the clasp (single on the OP, double on the Explorer).

is there a point to cheap automatics?

>le beauty of la machinerie
>20 minutes off every month

>>17596419
worded as beef and now I want a legit answer,
redpill me on cheap mech movements

>>17596420
one advantage is that they are cheaper to replace than to service when compared to fancier watches.

>>17596419
If it's not something you wear all the time, it should probably be hand wind or quartz

>>17596413
Worse how? They both have a similar case and the same domed crystal, don't they? I think the only major difference is the presentation on the dial and OP comes in more colors.

>>17596423
why not just get a quartz

How do you deal with the fact that youre no different than the average funko pop consoooomer?

>>17596426
in that price range, sub $200, people should get a quartz watch. when you start getting closer to $400 you can get some decent sellita and miyota movements that will not lose 20 minutes a month.

>>17596424
I think hand wind makes a lot of sense for a dress watch because you get a thinner watch and don't have to worry about a battery dying in the drawer when you're not using it and only finding out the night of the wedding or whatever. If you only wear it for one or two days every 6-8 months it doesn't really matter if it's not automatic, it should be good for the night off of one wind. Daily wear is automatic every time though. At least for me.
>>17596419
There would have to be something really wrong to lose 20 minutes a month. You shouldn't really let it go that long anyway. Even a high end automatic is going to be way off if you let it go for a month. Expect to refresh the time every few days or once a week or so. It doesn't take much effort. There will probably be times throughout the week where you didn't wear the watch for a couple days and it'll run low on power and maybe need a wind when you go to wear it again anyway, so just set it then.

>>17596432
The fact that I'm not similar in any way. I only have a couple watches of different genres that fit different niches at a time, I'm not endlessly collecting every fuckin watch in every color.

>>17596434
Most of those would be better off with a quartz desu. I'm buying those for things like materials and design more than the automatic movement. And a HF quartz like a Bulova Precisionist can have a nice sweep.

>>17596434
this serica looks good @ 575

>>17596446
but you spent more money on that than the average funko pop consoomer. that makes you even worse goy. how does it feel putting money into jewish pockets

>>17596453
this poster is anti semitic

>>17596426
Because you like the idea of wearing a watch with a clockwork mechanism. That's literally it. You may as well be asking why you'd buy a Rolex when you could buy a Casio. The answer is because you like it.

I like automatic watches but I also have a career where I work with my hands and get dirty. Cheap autos let me wear a clockwork watch without having to worry about it getting dirty or broken and costing a lot to fix something on it. So you can wear a seiko when you're puttering around cutting the grass and changing the oil in your car and stuff and not worry about your rolex. Then you swap it out for the rolex later when you take the wife out for dinner. It's good to have a couple different watches for different purposes. There's no 1 perfect watch that is ideal in every situation and feels good for every application.

>>17596453
>but you spent more money on that than the average funko pop consoomer.
How much do you think I spend on watches?

>>17596456
I'm not anti semitic, quite the opposite catually. I just think Jews can't coexist with anything found on this planet and need to be exterminated.

Guys cool it with the anti semitism. I deleted all comments that went into illegal territory.
Bans were dished out.
Behave yourself

>>17596425
Batons > Numerals

>>17596443
>I think hand wind makes a lot of sense for a dress watch because you get a thinner watch and don't have to worry about a battery dying in the drawer when you're not using it and only finding out the night of the wedding or whatever.
That's true but it depends on the complications. If it doesn't have a quick-set date or god forbid something complicated like a moonphase or calendar then you really don't want to set it. For a "true" dress watch with no complications though I'd agree manual is really the only way to go.

>>17596461
not enough goy

>>17596443
>don't have to worry about a battery dying in the drawer
Do people not understand quartz or something? You will literally change a battery half a dozen times in your life. You have better odds of picking up a mechanical and finding out it's broken.

>>17596471
He is Lebanese and Greek, not Jewish. Surprising I know

>>17596401
Atleast post a decent tradwife

>>17596426
Because good looking quartz watches start at a grand.

This is peak Rolex.
Ceramic and maxi case were a mistake.

>>17596472
There's a greater chance of a watch battery dying by running all the time sitting in a drawer than an unwound mechanical watch dying by sitting there doing nothing. The quartz WILL stop working if you don't intervene in 4-5 years. A mechanical watch almost certainly will not.

>>17596476
>tfw the goyim fall for it

>>17596413
I agree. Every internet watch geek’s favorite is the explorer cause it “flies under the radar XD” the OP is actually more unique and looks more classic.

>>17596483
Colorful bezels look incredibly childish to me

>>17596483
>a few years later

>>17596495
Nobody answered last time, what is "worse" about it?

I want to buy my first watch. It’s going to be of these four, but I mat want to replace the straps with leather or fabric. Do I just buy whatever brand and design I like or does it have to be specifically compatible with casio? Also can I do it at home or is it more complicated?

>>17596401
>that wall

>>17596499
They're the same watch anon. Same movement, same finishing, same size. The only noticeable difference is the bracelet. The one on the Explorer is a bit better.
Explorer and OP are both great.

>>17596497
still looks cool

>>17596401
>"Suggest a watch for me."
>"Are you poor?"
Casio F91W, A700, Gshock or similar shitter
>"Are you well-off and you just want to go out and buy a nice watch everyone will say "nice watch" and go on with your life?"
Rolex Datejust, Rolex Daydate, Rolex Submariner or Cartier Tank or Santos
>"Are you not THAT well off and need a COPE watch you can tell yourself is different and better than above when it's not?"
Tudor, Omega, Grand Seiko
>"Are you well-off but you need to have something other well-off people who just wanted to move on with their life won't have?"
Patek, Lange, JLC, VC, IWC
>"Are you poor but then you can't just buy a shitter and move on with your life and need to have a lot of watches so you can pretend you have a Reddit-approved collection and a hobby?"
Five thousand seikos of the same model but slightly different colors, orient, shitty microbrands
>"Are you poor and also around poor enough people who will actually care if they think you have a Rolex?"
Rep

>>17596507
>Hell yeah, it won't be long now until I have myself an Explorer 2.

>>17596483
Shitty clasp. Unfortunate

>>17596507
Unreadable

>>17596476
Shut the fuck up. See picrel. He's a Jew

>>17596514
i have a rolex branded small swiss army knife like that but it looks different. it's raw steel and doesn't have the green scales.

i wonder if mine is fake. i received it as a gift from an uncle.

>>17596514
still looks good :)

>>17596514
>is worth more than a new condition watch in your path

>>17596497
b-b-but now it has patina!

I bought a Timex Expedition North field mechanical... how badly did I fuck up?

Is there a single industry where one brand
>controls 30% of the market share
>makes goods that increase in value over time
Take Ferrari for example. Their cars will increase in value but they're far from controlling 30% of the car market.
Honestly Rolex' position is pretty insane.

>>17596483
That magnifying lens will never stop looking ugly

>>17596554
Their ad budget is 100x everyone else combined.

It's the De Beers approach. Appeals to retards.

>>17596554
Is there some reason why international law makers aren't trying to bust them up? Even Standard Oil didn't have as much relative control over the oil market when it was hit with antitrust charges.

>>17596568
>Their ad budget is 100x everyone else combined.
LOL no
Why do people on this board make up absurd shit about brands they dislike?

Post some actually interesting watches, goddamn.
All you ever post is poorfag shit or some x-edition overpriced fashion or (((SWISS MADE))) gaylordfaggotry.
>get an x-seiko
>get an x-casio
>get an x-rollie
>get an x-vostok
>get an x-homos
>get an x-reverso/santos

Shut the fuck up and post something worthwhile.

>>17596583
You first, bitch.

>>17596569
Luxury watches aren't strategic, unlike oil.

>>17596411
They all laugh at you for wearing a plastic child's toy.

>>17596554
Nintendo

>>17596583
What the fuck are you talking about

>>17596600
Impressive numerals, yet nothing of value to be said. You niggers argue about the same 10 watches day-to-day while filling up a thread with 300 posts a day.

>>17596588
Maybe, but at least you could make the argument that Standard Oil employed a lot of people and helped to reduce the cost and increase availability of a strategic resource, which is an overall good thing for the world. Rolex employs a few people to sell about $1000 worth of watch for $10-30k and acts like they're doing you a favor in doing so.

>>17596608
Imagine what's going to happen when Islanderfag starts posting Islander pics.

>>17596554
Closest I can think of is Luxottica, who absolutely rule the world of sunglasses. However they aren't the name on the box, they do it through owning many brands (I guess Swatch style) but their markups and market cap is insane.

>>17596615
I sure hope he gets laughed out of the threads, just like the IWC faggot did last week, for wasting money on shitters

>>17596516
Salma Hayek is also Lebanese and is Catholic.
It's probably just a coincidental transliteration that ends up in the same spelling as the jewish name.

>>17596453
>but you spent more money on that than the average funko pop consoomer
so does the guy who buys two cars, stupid point. The fact that you don't have a disposable income doesn't mean that anyone who does is a "consoomer" and no better than a funko pop nerd. Get a real job.

happy wednesday

>>17596608
How about you post a watch you like instead of complaining like the whiny gay nigger faggot you are?

>>17596624
If anything he'd be mocking dad's watch and others by doing the same cringe attention seeking they do with an inexpensive watch and taking basically the same pictures.

POST WATCHES THAT ARE THE DEFINITION OF COPE

>>17596657
I agree, even Island Nigger has more dignity than dadwatch and his polyester suit

>>17596682
Why yes, I couldn't get a Datejust, how could you tell?

>>17596682
Well uuuuh, ackchyually Tudor belongs to the Rolex group. Plus the BB58 is more faithful to the original Submariner than the current Submariner. So it's like owning a real Rolex.

>>17596686
It has more soul than a smooth bezel datejust but less than fluted

>>17596420
they're for people who want to say they're into a hobby but are too poor to get a watch. If they got a well-equipped quartz, people would confuse them for someone practical that just wanted to see the time without bothering with a cell phone.

They get one, and obsess over timing the accuracy and other bullshit. Then they're super excited at the idea of a chronometer certified watch, hacking, power reserves whatever and no one gives a shit. Then they finally buy a real watch and sell their junkers.

>>17596583

>>17596686
Is every 3 hand date complication watch just a cope datejust?

Is every rotating bezel dive watch just a cope submariner?

>>17596693
It's God's plan.

>>17596551
Post pic

>>17596551
You asked this question a week ago. Still didn't receive it? Is this a new pasta?

>>17596690
>Plus the BB58 is more faithful to the original Submariner than the current Submariner
This is true though. The BB58 looks a lot nicer than the current iteration of the Rolex Submariner.

>>17596700
Yes and yes.

>>17596583
Are you the retard I was arguing with a few threads ago, who claimed that there were infinite amount of watch brands in the world that people could choose from?

There are only so many brands people can choose from who make decent watches, you mongoloid. You are always going to hear about brands like Seiko or Citizen because they make or license the base movements for what's likely the vast majority of cheap automatic watches in the world today.

You're always going to hear about Omega, Rolex, Tudor, JLC, Cartier etc because outside of the shitter market they are the next level in the subsequent price range and there's only a few companies in the world who can make semi-luxury watches at scale.

People here have tried to talk about vintage watches from these brands but everyone here ignores those posters, because most people in this thread are just like you - retarded.

>>17596627
>The fact that you don't have a disposable income doesn't mean that anyone who does is a "consoomer"
Thats exactly what those funko pop nerds say.
>Let people enjoy things
Dont forget to consoom next product soon

>>17596496
>colours are childish
lmao

Just picked up the attached Seiko.
It's my first watch. I asked in a previous thread but missed the responses. I am drive a motorbike about 10 miles each way to get to work.
How much am I fucking the watch if I don't want to take it on and off for every journey?
It's a small 125 bike so nothing big

>>17596583
There aren't that many quality brands out there dummy.

>>17596719
Got downs didn't attach

>>17596690
I like the blocky hands on the Tudors more and the Mercedes hand on Rolexes is outright ugly.

>>17596690
Without even a hint of Irony, if you want gilt hands and gold or 2 tone bracelet, the Tudors look way better for much less money.

>>17596728
You might be the only person in earth with this opinion. Congrats

>>17596734
Thank you.
I'm also trans, don't know if that matters.

>>17596734
>in earth
I esled myself

>>17596712
Are there any numbers on how many NH36s Seiko makes?

love this watch

>>17596744
If you count the atmosphere as part of the planet we are all in Earth.

>>17596719
It'll probably be fine.

>>17596682
>THE DEFINITION OF COPE
Why yes, I couldn't afford a SWISS watch, how could you tell?

>>17596765
Most grand seikos are more expensive than low tier Swiss to be fair

>>17596765
Didn't the Japanese blow the Swiss the fuck out back in 1969?

>>17596719
It's only a problem with especially buzzy handlebars or long distances. It'll probably be fine as long as you don't rev the everliving piss out of your 125.

>>17596773
>Didn't the Japanese blow the Swiss the fuck out back in 1969?
Yes but now they (Japanese) are coping in the luxury segment

>>17596721
I think I saw you wearing this in a restaurant recently. You're a pale black haired zoomer with a brown girlfriend, right?

>>17596721
>>17596796
>with a brown girlfriend
SEXUALLY ACTIVE WATCH OWNER

THIS THREAD IS NOW ABOUT SEXUAL ACTIVE WATCH OWNERS

>>17596819
Lmao good luck

>>17596459
>You may as well be asking why you'd buy a Rolex when you could buy a Casio.

Because a Rolex is shiny and sexy and will get you pussy the way neither a Casio nor some mechanical shitter will. How is this hard?

Every time I wear this I feel like there is a sticker on the display but there isn't. Looks so weird to me

>>17596827
That was kind of the point of the post, anon.

>>17596497
More like 15 or so years later, and rolex will recolor it. My uncle just had this done.

>>17596420
> reliable
> Easy to repair and replace
> Movements far more expensive still don't beat a 20$ quartz watch so why even bother?

>>17596483
>maxi case [...] a mistake.
Based and five-digit-pilled

>>17596841
Doesn't that affect the resale value?

>>17596497
Ghost submariners are cool as hell, and I can only hope that the aluminum bezel tudors eventually look like this too.

are these any good? im looking for a thin comfy watch I dont need to worry about, much like my a700. im open to suggestions but im mainly looking for a white or off white dial.

>>17596846
>>17596857
Fuck, these look so good

>>17596858
If it's aged evenly it's worth more than a mint condition watch. You can always replace parts but it's very difficult to age them well short of wearing it for 40 years.

>>17596869
Junghans ripoff?

>>17596875
Some watch mad scientist is probably working on a way to aesthetically stress aluminum bezels rapidly in a lab setting.

>>17596878
pretty much but its quartz. I almost bought a junghans chronoscope a few times but the dimensions looked wack with how tall the watch would wear

>>17596583
thanks for the new phone wallpaper

>>17596793
>Yes but now they (Japanese) are coping in the luxury segment
How so? A Grand Seiko in the 6.5k to 15k price bracket mogs most Swiss watches in that price range. The finishing of a Grand Seiko is on par or better than that of a Rolex:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hKrJOMaFuyA&pp=ygUccm9sZXggZ3JhbmQgc2Vpa28gbWljcm9zY29wZQ%3D%3D

>>17596879
You can leave them in bleach and they do turn pale but it's not white the same effect. Quite popular with the custom build crowd.

>>17596898
It does but they are coping by not having the sales nor brand recognition of the (((Swiss))) brands despite the quality. Almost like a luxury microbrand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOtfACwf5U8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOtfACwf5U8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOtfACwf5U8

LOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

>>17596907
That is true, it's unlikely that Rolex, VC, AP and PP will ever be dethroned.

>>17596401
Why does she look like a bog

>>17596908
Dial of this watch looks nice and making kikes seethe is always good, but at 43mm it's simply too big.

>>17596827
I bet the DINOZONEAnon gets more pussy than any Rolex owner here.

>>17596898
How precisely are they mogging swiss luxury brands?

>>17596898
>The finishing of a Grand Seiko is on par or better
MEGALOL

Did I do good, /wt/?

What makes a good clasp? In particular, what is the difference between a mediocre milled clasp and a good one?

>>17596940
Design and movement.

>>17596962
Feels solid, won't accidentaly open, allows to be adjusted for better comfort

>>17596963
No and lol no

>>17596965
So what makes a Rolex movement better than a spring drive according to you?

>>17596964
I'm gonna cut straight to the chase. Where can I buy a decent clasp? Aliexpress has a lot, but the prices range wildly.
I don't really expect anyone to give me an in-depth answer, but who knows.

>>17596965
kek based
>>17596968
It won't crap out in the three years lmfao

>>17596972
>It won't crap out in the three years lmfao
Are you going to provide any proof that this happens to Spring Drives or should we just take your word for it?

>"Aww sweet, a nice handy little 36mm GMT watch."
>check out the web store
>"...... lol, no seriously though, where are the real colors?"
>there are no other colors
Man, can't a guy just get a white or black watch?

>>17596975
>Post sources so I can derail the dicussion by telling you that those sources are untrustworthy instead of refuting them!!!!

>>17596978
No source then? Alright, I accept your submission.

>>17596970
Aliexpress is shit quality all around.
Try ebay or etsy and you'll probably find something better

>>17596968
The finishing. GS movement finishing is a total shame. See >>17596954 and weep.

>>17596968
At least lolex is middley finished on both sides of the plates and bridges.

>>17596857
Rolex has completely stagnated in design philosophy for years now, their designs are so boring and safe. Lower tier Swiss brands like Longines and Oris make much more interesting watches these days but they don't hold the same status with boomers and new money plebs so they'll never be as big as Rolex.

>>17596975
He can't because there already are spring drives from 20 years ago still going fine.

>>17596989
Why would you care about the finishing on a part that you would have to remove and flip over to see the other side of?

>>17596994
>Oris
They literally put trash in their watches. Even the packaging is literal trash they got from the ocean

>>17596987
>Random picture of unclear origin with some circles drawn on it and no picture of Rolex movement to compare it to
Wow, you sure showed me

>>17596994
Long Jeans apes other popular swiss designs and Oris has made literally 3 watches for decades.

>>17597000
>Oris has made literally 3 watches for decades.
Just like Rolex then

>>17596995
And how many services did they need?

>>17597003
Rolex has about 7. Still more variety to choose from than Oris with the big crown in a million colors, edgier big crown in gay zoomer colors, and a dive watch nobody buys.

>>17596994
>their designs are so boring and safe
That's what makes tudor's designs more appealing imo. Less boring & safe.

>>17596972
I have been scouring watch forums for the past 20 minutes to see if there's any info to support your claim, but nothing so far.

>>17597008
Tudor has some very beautiful designs. I can definitely see them becoming a bigger name over the coming decade and outselling brands like Omega.

>>17597007
You forgot the cope tank.

>>17597012
Yea I could see that. I haven't looked up the numbers but from what I hear the 58 in particular has sold very well. At some point I'll get one myself.

>>17597007
>Rolex has about 7
Are any of them worth mentioning though? All people post here are the Datejust, the OP and the GMT 2.

>>17596997
Why wouldn't I if I'm paying for a luxury watch?

>>17597015
Explorer 1 and 2 are great, people post explorers all the time. Submariners might be the most popular rolex. We don't get a lot of people posting daydates, but they're desired.

Hello, my friends. How have you been? It's been a while hasn't it?

>>17597029
Why did you put your watch on a sausage?

>>17597029
Glad you didn't die, lawyersama.

>>17597033
LOL
That's how bitches like it, my friend.

>>17597036
Thanks, m8. I had a great trip. Africa is a welcoming land, if you know how to visit it.

>>17597029
What do you do for a living, and how can I get to the point of affording such beauty of a watch?

What kind of sacrifices did you have to make along the road? Or just get born rich?

>>17597043
I'm a lawyer, my friend, and I had to work my ass off for years, before I was able to afford this kind of luxuries. I wasn't born rich at all.

>>17597049
You chose the worst profession to devote yourself to.

>>17597053
How bad could it be?

>>17597017
Because it's better to have that extra cost added onto something more useful (case finishing, bracelet, dial) and not just something your watchmaker will see

>>17597053
>worst profession to devote yourself
Ok, I'll bite.
Why?

>>17597043
Not same guy. >>17597053 will always be the envious guy that secretly feel it should have been him.

Thanks for the outlook. Fun fact, I actually was enrolled to get a law degree but it was to tough for me.

>>17597065
>>17597060
>>17597057
No, I just hate attorneys. 99% of them are fucking jackasses that get away with a lot of shit because their letterhead states they're a lawyer. Ambulance chasers, and clearly bullshit lawsuits don't get filed without cock-gobbling lawyers existing just to extort money from people and companies.

hello all

>>17597068
What innocent, uncorruptable trade do you work in?

>>17597068
Means that even by your twisted thinking there is 1% of lawyers that you are wrongfully judging and are good people. That would be 13.279 attorneys in the US alone.

Guess thats' why you don't suit to be a judge in a court room.

>>17597071
>dad's watch

>>17597065
>I actually was enrolled to get a law degree but it was to tough for me.
If that was truly what you wished to do, you can always get back to school, my friend. If not, you lost nothing and you can always find fulfillment in something else.

>>17597068
Yes, some lawyers are pure assholes, but I hope I'm not that way. I'm now litigating in human right affairs, btw.

I think I will finally sell some stuff and get a black bay 54.

>>17597075
>decimal point instead of comma
Fuck off YOUROPEEEN

>>17597076
This is the weirdest but now most hilarious meme. Who the fuck is this guy and why do you always post him for dadwatch

>>17597077
Finally sticking it to whitey, huh?

>>17596898
Fuck me, watch related content online really is just for the biggest mouth breathing retards out there. This schlub, who's made this the entirety of his life online, drones on for 20 minutes and says nothing that you wouldn't pick up after your first day of reading about watches.
>"The date window! It's white gold!"
>"The hands aren't painted, they're heated!!" x3
>"Huh, now the bezel is purple instead of blue?? So weird!"
Embarrassing to even call this a hobby, it's the lowest form of consumerism out there.
>"This is the Datograph, which is date, dato, and graph, chrono"
I want to kill myself.

>>17597080
A few threads back dadwatch posted a public restroom mirror selfie of himself wearing a rubber/plastic looking suit with weird angular seems and pockets and stuff, reminiscent of Jude Law as the gigolo sex robot from the movie AI.

>>17597077
>If that was truly what you wished to do, you can always get back to school, my friend. If not, you lost nothing and you can always find fulfillment in something else.

Guess you are right. It was tough and I was all over the place focusing on everything but studies. Maybe "it was to tough" is just an excuse that helps me cope.


>>17597079
Watch your mouth, or I'll make few call to some watch manufacturers to artificially inflate some pieces.

>>17597071
What's up, m8?

>>17597081
>Finally sticking it to whitey, huh?
LOL I hope so.

>>17597078
That's a nice collection pic. What are you planning to sell?

>>17597083
Maybe you need some relaxing time?...

>>17597080
>>17597085

>>17596976
Idk man that one in the middle is a nice funky chicken and everyone needs a funky chicken in their coOLLLEEEXSHCCCIIIOON

>>17597072
Theres a solid reason people often hate and avoid attorneys at all possible times. And its not because my job is innocent and uncorruptable.

>>17597077
it was hyperbole because I have met and talked to some seemingly decent attorneys trying to help the little guy or actually punish those intentionally doing harm to others. They're fine, however so many want to autistically twist things just to get money knowing because if you sue someone they MUST pay through the nose just to defend themselves. Is it Canadia that forces the opposing side to pay all legal fees or something?

>>17596976
Pink is a nice way to let people know you're passive.

>>17596708
Nope Timex are taking their sweet time for some reason. Ordered it last week and they still haven't shipped it out yet... I'm wondering whether I should just cancel and order a Baltany instead

>>17597093
It's not a bad color, but it's kinda weird not to have a normal dial color that would go with a lot of stuff. It's not an especially cheap watch, either, they want I think $1300 for it. Even worse the larger 40mm version is only available in that one color.

>>17597099
I would like that timex more if it didn't have the 13-24 numbers.

>>17597095
>however so many want to autistically twist things just to get money knowing because if you sue someone they MUST pay through the nose just to defend themselves.
This is sadly true, but not in my case; I get paid by a NGO.

Is it Canadia that forces the opposing side to pay all legal fees or something?
Honestly, wouldn't know m8, I'm not american.

>>17597029
Best watch posted in the last ten threads, at least.
I hate this place.

I want to get the Casio A1000WE-7B (far right). I don't know why Casio discontinued it and made a worse colorway with primary colors on it (left). It's on Amazon, but I don't trust them. Ebay has it "new" from Singapore.

Where should I buy it?

>>17596501
They have proprietary lugs so swapping the strap is not officially supported, but it's doable. It's difficult because there is very little space. You can do it with a thin nate but there will be transversal pressure against the spring bars (dangerous, but I did it this way), or you'll have to modify a leather strap. Definitely look up "model + leather strap" on youtube before buying, there are some guides. By the way, get one of the two bottom models in your pic

>>17597095
>Theres a solid reason people often hate and avoid attorneys at all possible times.
Attorneys are great. They've saved me tens of thousands of dollars and charges that would've cost me income over my entire lifetime AND have protected me from bullshit people trying to take my business multiple times.

Only absolute lowlifes hate lawyers. If you really want to shit on a paper pusher profession it should be realtors. Fuck those leaching mother fuckers.

>>17597132
New from Singapore is usually just grey market but actually new, at least for the Seikos I've ordered

>>17597134
>They've saved me tens of thousands of dollars and charges that would've cost me income over my entire lifetime
So you got a DUI and an attorney got it knocked down to a lesser charge? Fuck you.

Are there any interesting looking crowd funding campaigns going on right now for watches?

>>17597135
I don't know anything about aftermarket Casio's but are they typically worth faking? Are there even ways to tell?

>>17596869
Same. Watches are just so thick it makes no sense. Only thing that comes to mind is Seiko Dolce

>>17597089
Thanks. Probably the semenmaster and some other vintage stuff. No idea what the omega goes for right now, I'll probably break even or make a little bit of money, sell another old watch and I'll have to put in a little bit or I can buy it right away. No hurry, can't imagine it being very hard to get due to the size.

>>17597137
No but what never happened legally speaking thanks to a lawyer is I drew my dick extension on a bum nigger. Cope more.
>Alcohol
No thanks I'm not a druggie btw.

>>17597077
>Yes, some lawyers are pure assholes, but I hope I'm not that way.
Nope, you are.

Why don't you donate some money to charity instead of spending it on yourself?

>>17597146
I think human rights lawyer anon would take exception to that.

>>17597148
Does taxes count?

>>17597149
>I think human rights lawyer anon would take exception to that.
He's not a human rights lawyer. He's defending human traffickers AGAINST human rights organizations.

>>17597134
Realtors are leeches 100 percent. As are watch ads as well

T. Go into watch ad and they show me the biggest most expensive of the brand in the lineup even though they know it doesn't fit just for a commission

>>17597029
Sup lawyersama, did you get to shoot any cool pics?

>>17597150
>Does taxes count?
No. You benefit from taxes as well. Cops prevent people from eating your fat ass and your roads are paved.

>>17597153
No but he probably shot some big game and also wild joggers

>>17597152
How would they know it didn't fit before you tried it on?

Oh good, /wt/'s main character is back.

>>17597155
>IF YOUR MONEY DOESN'T GO TO 100% SELFLESS SPENDING THAT IS EXCLUSIVELY TO YOUR DETRIMENT YOU'RE SCUM AND I'M ENTITLED TO YOUR SHIT
Perchik, is that you???

>>17597157
Idk bro 45mm not gonna fit on wristlets just by looking desu.

For me its the odysseus

>>17597161
What boutique worth a shit is selling 45mm dinner plates?

>>17597148
>Why don't you donate some money to charity
I do, but I can't fight world's poverty by myself. Also, I plan to enjoy my life too.

>>17597151
You've seen too much movies, anon. I usually litigate against government's policies that violate human rights.

>>17597153
Lots, my friend. But I still have to develop the pics before I can evaluate if my work there was any good.

>>17597156
>wild joggers
Kek, but no. No game either, not really my thing killing animals, plus, it's too expensive.

>>17597167
Based choice.

>>17597148
>Why don't you donate some money to charity instead of spending it on yourself?
Charities are a scam anon

>>17597159
>Oh good, /wt/'s main character is back.
No, it's fun watching people bitch about wealth instead of talking about watches.

Rolex Explorer then:
>was worn caving, mountaineering, survived falling out of planes
Rolex Explorer now:
>smashed after falling on the floor because a redditor didn't put his spring bar back in right
Where did it all go so wrong?

>>17597179
That's the downside of using a sapphire crystal. Very likely wouldn't have shattered if it was acrylic, but then you'd have people complaining about it scratching easily.

>>17597093
I like the teal blue too but 1200 pounds for that? Not til it's par with the dollar, where's Liz Truss when you need her?

>>17597175
The funniest thing about it is if taxes actually worked charity wouldn't be necessary, but because taxes doesn't work the charities step in to guilt people intonspending even more money to try to help society and in doing so mostly just enrich the people running the charity as legally only a small percentage of the money raised by charitable organization ever has to reach a beneficiary of the organization. Most charities are literally woke libtards screeching
>NOOOOO DON'T GIVE THE GOVERNMENT MONEY, THEY'LL WASTE IT! You have to give US the money so WE can waste it!

>>17597179
Good thing the warranty will cover it, r-right?

>>17597182
>charities step in to guilt people intonspending even more money to try to help society and in doing so mostly just enrich the people running the charity as legally only a small percentage of the money raised by charitable organization ever has to reach a beneficiary of the organization
Exactly this, it's all a big grift. When my father retired from his regular work he took a position on the board of directors of a charity to keep himself busy. He attends one meeting per week on average and still makes nearly as much money as I do with my full time job.

>>17597179
>>17597185
For what they charge for rolexes in current year you should get free sapphire replacement for life.

>>17597148
>Why don't you donate some money
every single time the lawyer posts here someone comes in demanding he give his money away lmao

i can’t tell if it’s the same fucking loser or if it’s just a /fa/ state of mind.

>>17597200
I bet it's actually Mortadello himself, just having fun with the thread.

>>17596409
I don't give a flying fuck about what appeals to women

>>17597201
Wow, the order of the world is flipping upside down. Maybe dadswatch and islanderanon are the same person. You think? Anything can happen in this silly goose world.

What's WT opinion on this?
I really like it, but I'm not sure if I get tired of it eventually.

>>17597246
(((Constantin chaykin))) aka troll watches for eccentric schizo richfags

>>17596551
>$230
You got a good deal comparatively, just prices all jumped so much for basic watches that it still bothers me to see.

>>17597249
>>17597246
I prefer Mr. Jones, aka troll watches for eccentric schizo poorfags.

>>17596690
How long before Rolex starts gimping Tudor because they're style is slowly becoming superior?

>>17597267
SOUL

>>17597269
The snowflake hand has always gimped tudor

>>17597269
I don't see why that would be in their best interest. With Tudor they capture the jaded richfags that see a watch as a status symbol with their own rolex brand but they still capture the slightly less rich dudes with a chip on their shoulder buying tudors and coping they're just as good. They actually make more money with tudor than without, they cast a wider net.

>>17597267
Mr. Jones has some cool designs, but I wish they would come out with new stuff more often, like Swatch.

I've been thinking of getting one of these Humism watches.

>>17597294
I like this quite a bit

>>17597246
Cool watch but a little expensive I feel for what you get, and they're all sold out I'm pretty sure so you know scalpers are just gonna flip them for double MSRP.

>>17596714
Not what I said

>>17597068
>>Ambulance chasers, and clearly bullshit lawsuits don't get filed without cock-gobbling lawyers existing just to extort money from people and companies

I'm a class action plaintiffs' lawyer and this kind of seething gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.

>>17597068
There are so many types of lawyers that saying they are all pathetic niggers is just disingenuous, that's like saying all doctors are scammers performing unneeded surgeries just to charge insurance companies

been wearing this a few weeks now. wasn't sure about the ice blue or the small size at first but v happy with them both now that I've gotten used to it on my wrist.

I don't have a dress watch and I'd like to have one. I like a pretty dial, and I'm trying to pick between a Bulova Precisionist or a Seiko Cocktail. I'm a dial whore, so both the spiral and 3d elements on the Bulova and Negroni hue and starburst appeal to me.

What are the pros/cons of each - besides the inherent con of being a cope poorfag piece?

>>17597383
did an ai post this?

>>17597200
>every single time the lawyer posts here someone comes in demanding he give his money away lmao
And this is a problem because...?

What kind of strap to get for my apple watch?

>>17596957
I like it

>>17597453
Genuine milanese.

>>17596583

imagine falling so far

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7NSq5naSYM

>>17597564
Absolut rofl
No wonder why I prefer to come back to this shithole

I actually do not care about watches. I only care about Rolex and I will NEVER buy a watch that isn't a Rolex.

>>17597570
GOOD MORNING JODY. thanks for the video, really enjoyed watching it while drinking my morning cup o' joe.

>>17597083
He's a bit weird, the look doesn't suit him at all. He's not doing my country any favours.

>>17597179
Just how thick is the crystal on these?

>>17597570
A blatant copy of Czapek with Aquaterra indices.

>>17597606
The older models were all 2mm, but maybe they're skimping a bit now to reduce the thickness.

>>17596690
I like my Tudor.
I only wish it had the old Tudor rose logo. That was class.

>>17597616
It was bad enough that they used cannibalized Rolex parts to make their copy watches, did they also have to bastardize the names of Rolex watches? How cope did they want to be?

>>17597685
I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of Rolex and Tudor's business relationship.

How do I stop abusing my watch?
I wear one watch daily and after a few years its pretty banged up.
Is this just normal wear and tear or am I being too harsh on it. My watch looks like picrel

>>17597689
No, I think you misunderstand.

>>17597693
Stop smashing it into things? Just take it off before you go rock climbing or change your oil.

>>17597693
It's something you wear on your wrist, accept the scars, they're proof of a life well lived or some shit.

>>17597685
It even has the Rolex logo on the crown, and the case is a Rolex too.

>>17597696
>No, I think you misunderstand.
Explain it to me, then.

Because as I understand, Tudor was founded by Hans Wilsdorf just a few years after Rolex in order to produce watches using Rolex cases and bracelets but cheaper, off-the-shelf movements, thus giving less affluent buyers the ability to get some Rolex quality at a fraction of the price.

>>17597704
>It even has the Rolex logo on the crown
You way, you gotta be shitting me

Question, /wt/. Why is there so much hate for Hublot? I can't think of any brand where the watches themselves produce such a visceral reaction. (Rolex makes a lot of people angry, but it's the company practices and the brand's fans, not the watches themselves.)

>>17597707
Nope. That was common. When they started, the only thing Rolex made were cases. Their bracelets, dials, movements, everything else, were made by subcontractors.

They only became fully in-house a few decades ago.

>>17597713
Interesting. I didn't know that.
Thanks.

>>17597715
No problem.
The early history of the wristwatch industry is really interesting in terms of who sold parts to whom.
Rolex used Aegler, Cortebert, and Zenith movements. Patek Philippe used some JLC movements. JLC used cases from everyone. There were companies that just made cases, just made bracelets, just made dials, and they all supplied dozens of companies. The company that currently makes Squale made the cases for Doxa SUBs and BP Fifty Fathoms. The list goes on and on.

So many companies made Super Compressor divers because they all bought cases from E. Piquerez.

The reason for all the million dial variations among Rolex Subs (different shaped coronet logos, differences i the printing, different aging effects) is because Rolex bought dials from different suppliers.

The idea of "in-house" being desirable is a pretty new thing and was mostly created by Rolex's marketing team as a way to set themselves apart from other companies that used ETA movements.

>>17597708
>Question, /wt/. Why is there so much hate for Hublot?
I think it's because Hublot shines an uncomfortable light on what it means to be a watch enthusiast. Hublot simply doesn't give a fuck about enthusiasts' rules about heritage and design and value.
Jean-Claude Biver even said "The more we raised our prices, the more units we sold. We made more limited editions and our customers bought more."

Hublot makes enthusiasts seethe because they don't enjoy watches "the right way".

>>17597597
>I will NEVER buy a watch that isn't a Rolex.
Not even a watch that's been to Mars?

>>17597724
kekkin way too hard at that dumb meme

Thought on these new models ?

>>17597734
Good for them for trying something different.

>>17597734
Hands are a bit shit, difficult to tell which hand is which on the white example.

>>17597708
Hublot is basically the polar opposite of venerated "traditional" brands like Patek or Vacheron or Lange. Those brands are all about doing things the old way (well maybe not Patek anymore), traditional design, traditional watchmaking and staying very understated (gemset sports abominations aside). Hublot on the other hand is all about appealing to a buyer who wants people to know his watch is fucking expensive, meme complications and interesting materials. In my opinion Hublot is not targeting high end watch enthusiasts, they're targeting people who are not watch enthusiasts.

Nothing wrong with that. I have no problem with the brand though I wouldn't buy one. I'm not the target audience.

>>17597775
SOVL (unironically)

>>17597707
Here's the crown.

>>17597707
And the back.
Not even a mention of Tudor.

>>17596968
>spring drive
>fancy quartz watch
lmao you picked a bad example to champion seiko

How much would this watch be worth if it didn't say "Rolex"?

>>17597816
Like 3-4k probably

>>17597816
About 1.5K. You are paying for the reputation of a brand,, if some micro shitter would be using the exact parts, finishing and movements as Rolex, they would not be able to charge more than 25% of the price of a Rolex.

Can anyone of you fine gentlemen tell me how to remove the crown/stem from this vintage shitter?

Need to replace the battery but have no idea how to get behind the dial like this.
Please help.

>>17597818
I think 3-4k is a fair assessment, other than the Rolex brand, they do make good watches, and have a history of making them durable and serviceable even by amateur watchmakers which would increase the price a bit but yes, about half of the price for a Rolex is because of the name and its reputation.

>>17597818
Are you saying it takes $3-4k labour to make the watch? Because the materials are just stainless steel and sapphire crystal.

>>17596501
The thing with these is that they have these kind of integrated bracelets and the way they flare out is a part of how such a small watch sits nicely on the wrist. Leather straps tend to be a bit too thick and end up looking weird on them. You can try is getting a 20mm strap and trimming the ends down to 18mm to imitate the shape of the original metal end links better but you're probably better off just finding a digital watch with more typical lugs.

>>17597826
To replace a battery you usually just take off the caseback, not the crystal and stem. What does the back look like?

>>17597816
You're mad if you think Rolex historically haven't been worth their retail price.

Now it's getting a bit mad with £7,700 no-date subs & £6,100 explorers, but pre-2020, rrp was very good value.

>>17597830
There’s no caseback in the usual sense. The battery needs replacing from the front but I have no idea what the mechanism for detachment of the dial from the stem could be.

>>17597708
i recall watching an interview from Hublots CEO about how in the beginning they used to do things like personally deliver their "higher end" watches to their customers so as to make it as exclusive as possible.

so like someone from Hublot would unironically get on a flight, drive to the customers house and hand it over. The cost of the trip was trivial to what they gained in the perception of exclusivity and the money they sold them for, which was higher than the older Swiss watch brands.

>>17597833
why wouldn't you take it to omega or just some watch shop in town?

Watch shop will charge like $5

>>17597833
Hard to tell but still looks like you should be able to get a case knife on the lip there to remove it.

>>17597775
>In my opinion Hublot is not targeting high end watch enthusiasts, they're targeting people who are not watch enthusiasts.
See, I'm not so sure. I think they have tapped into a market of watch enthusiasts who aren't that interested in the traditional style, or they want something to mix it up. i.e. they have their formal, conservative Patek one day and their wild Hublot on the weekend.
I know a couple people who own Hublots and most of their respective collections are still centered around more traditional watchmaking.

I don't even think it has anything to do with people knowing how expensive it is. Normal people don't know how expensive any watch is, nor do they care, since they have an Apple Watch. In the watch world, though, everyone knows what everything costs, so the kind of people who wear Hublot aren't really interested in talking to other watch """enthusiasts""" because then they'll have to listen to a bunch of screeching about tradition and "you could have had an X" for that price.
>Yeah, don't care. I liked this one.
>B-but the residual value!!!
>Don't care about that either. :^)

>>17597839
>t. hasn't had a jeweler replace a battery ever
Jewelers usually charge $15-25 including the battery and labor to do it. Its why I bought a chinese watch maker kit with a knife and case tools for $30, batteries alone are $2-6. My first session of replacing 4 batteries I've now broken even on the kit. Any friend that needs a watch battery replaced I can do it.

>>17597826
Split stem. Pull the crown out, squeeze the two halves of the stem together and the whole thing will slide out.

>>17597831
Why is an oysterquartz thousands of dollars better than this?

>>17597834
When you're a new brand and you're trying to crack into a market like that, you have to do something radical.

Even back in the 80s, they were the only ones to put a rubber strap on a solid gold sports watch.

>>17597828
No it doesn't. But I mean sales price for the watch if it didn't have the rolex brand attached and was an equivalent hypothetical luxury Swiss brand. In terms of what a "fair price" would be for what you get taking out the Rolex name from the equation that is what I am thinking is fair

>>17597842
>I think they have tapped into a market of watch enthusiasts who aren't that interested in the traditional style, or they want something to mix it up. i.e. they have their formal, conservative Patek one day and their wild Hublot on the weekend.
Ok but if you're a watch enthusiast then you buy something that completely mogs Hublot because you know better. I'm having an extremely difficult time imagining the guy who buys both Patek and Hublot. They're probably not the same guy unless it's some faggot in a Nautilus.

>>17597833
>>17597826
Bro...

>>17597856
is that Arabic? what does it say?

>>17597855
>Ok but if you're a watch enthusiast then you buy something that completely mogs Hublot because you know better. I'm having an extremely difficult time imagining the guy who buys both Patek and Hublot. They're probably not the same guy unless it's some faggot in a Nautilus.

I don't think these buyers think in terms of mogging because they clearly don't care about value. I think it really is just a matter of liking how they look.

>>17597840
Unfortunately there’s no lip or back I could take off. The watch comes in a two part case and the movement and dial lie in the bottom one.

>>17597839
More like 15-25 like the other anon said plus I don’t trust most watch shops.

>>17597843
Yes, same here.

>>17597856
Different watch, different case, what are you trying to tell me?

>>17597845
Good idea, thanks! Unfortunately the whole stem is guarded and not directly accessible other than perhaps trough the small gap between dial and case but I it’s thinner than a sheet of paper and I have no tools to try it.

I’m going to have to take the watch to a shop after all, thanks everyone for the comments either way!

>>17597855
>I'm having an extremely difficult time imagining the guy who buys both Patek and Hublot.
I remember an interview Biver gave about his customers and he mentioned that there was quite a bit of overlap between Hublot and the traditional brands, but at the same time, the typical Hublot buyer was one of the first to get into the resurrected Lange as well. They want variety and newness.

I can believe that. There's many different ways to enjoy watches. One guy can be satisfied with a Submariner, a Tank Louis Cartier, a Snowflake, and a Speedmaster Professional; another can be satisfied with twelve different variations of Patek perpetual calendars, in various colors and metals; someone else might just go with where the spirit moves him.

NEW ROLEX THREAD
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>>17597717
Wow, so rolex literally told the how the world how and why they should respect a watch company and the world just accepted it. As if Emma Stone announced that the new standard for female beauty was skinny pale redheads with bangs and a 3 inch gap between the eyes, and everyone said "eh, alright, you're hot now."