/fa/ - Fashion

Do AD sometimes carry used watches of the brands they sell? Is it worth calling some of them if I can't afford new models and would rather purchase an older kinda beaten up model?

>>17588121
thanks anon
i had no idea you could get a rolex for those prices

>be me
>bought an Explorer a few months ago
>my boss who only wears dinner plates from IWC, Breitling and shit called me a brand whore
>mfw he showed up with a 36mm DJ the other day

>>17588145
Super pretty watch, OP. Very nice thread photo.

>>17588171
Holy shit you mogged him so hard. Might as well follow him home and fuck his wife.

>>17588171
He btfo you rightfully because you aren't wearing a based datejust like him. Explorer is very onions

>>17588171

>>17588145
Is that just a 1016 or does it have a more specific ref?

is there celestial calendar watches?
kinda like a moon phase watch but its like the constellations in the northern hemisphere or something like that
the only one im aware of that isnt chinkshit is the citizen cosmosign but its basically unobtainum in the US

>>17588195
check this out, nobody can afford it but it's one of the most amazing pieces of watchmaking in history

>>17588195
JLC has made a few in the last couple years but they're extremely high end.

>>17588171
He must have been joking right? Honestly if my boss tried to be a petty bitch with me like that I'd find another job and wish his bitch ass luck finding someone to pick up the slack like I do.

>>17588201
wow that is a spectacular watch, its a shame its prohibitively expensive

>>17588195

>>17588202
another spectacular watch but again holy shit its expensive

>He doesn't have a watch made of materials taken from firefighting equipment

>>17588219

you know what would be a cool gimmick?
if you harvested some shocked quartz from the chicxulub crater that killed the dinosaurs and incorporated that into the watch mechanism

>>17588171
>things that never EVER happened

>>17588195
>is there celestial calendar watches?
Lots. But all of them way above the affordable price mark.

>>17588226
its shameful really
do you know anything about xeric? i want a different kinda watch and think their wandering hour watches look neat but i worry it's 1000 dollar chinkshit

>>17588204
It was a joke yes. He's a rich boomer who loves to make "mean" jokes but sperg out when people make fun of him. I haven't had the opportunity to comment on his DJ yet but I will mess with him a bit.
He pays well though. I'm 25, have basically no diploma and have a pretty good position in the company.

Looking for a first watch.
Budget
>Up to £100 ideally around £50
Type
>I want something I can wear to work, I have casual work attire
Movement
>Automatic
Desired features
>Day/date
Preferred strap
>Bracelet or leather
Size
>38mm dial size

>>17588195
>citizen cosmosign
Jesus didnt know how much I want a watch like that

>He buys IWC
LMAO

>>17588204
You sound incredibly thin skinned

>>17588241
All that for 50-100 AND automatic?
Go to aliexpress and pick some chink watch.
Or do yourself a favor and go quartz and get something like
casio efr-s108d-7avuef

>>17588169
I would put Sea-Gull, Bulova and Tissot in the enthusiast category. They are not watched that a random normie would pick up at the store.

>>17588252
My bad I didn't realise I was asking for too much there. Very new to watches I read the poorfag shit and saw a lot the Seiko's had those features so I wasn't aware I was reaching.
If we scrap all that extra stuff and just go automatic is there a good option for say under 200?

>>17588254
and what is vostok doing in consumer category. unless you are a uber autist who goes to reddit/forums you would never know these soviet shitters existed.
dont you have to import them too?

>>17588244
they are quite handsome watches arent they?
really dont understand why watchmakers dont try to do things outside of the box more often
i dont wanna deal with the headache of import duties and such though

>>17588169
based

>>17588254
eh bulova is a pretty well known brand, every grandma has one on their mantle it seems

>>17588258
>I read the poorfag shit and saw a lot the Seiko's had those features

That guide is hilariously outdated. We should really make a new one. Half the watches on there arent even produced anymore. Seiko used to make good affordable watches but dont anymore. I just looked at the Seiko 5 line I wanted to recommend but they start at $300.

Look up orient. They share the same parent company with Seiko.
Picrel is a bambino

>>17588241
get the cheapest small Seiko 5 you can find. they're a bit inflated in price nowadays, but if you can find one under 100$ it's a fair price
>>17588252
that quartz Edifice is nice though, I've been considering that one myself. the finishing looks really great for 100$
>>17588258
Orient Bambino 38mm could be an option. I think they also make a Vostok Amphibia in that size if you want the funny meme diver

>>17588265
This was the first time I felt love at first sight with watches. But I guess watch makers rather do the 1000th copy of a submariner

>>17588275
your picrel isnt in production anymore, sadly. seikos gone to shit

>>17588268
Seiko 5's can be had for about $120 now. Its just how much they cost now.

>>17588241
Given those it'll be tough to find something that specific. But Seiko 5 seems to fit depending on currency conversion; I just got my Seiko5 for $120. SNKL43.

>>17588265
>What time is it? Uh, yeah, it's uh....
>..... Polaris o'clock?

>>17588241
>>17588281
If you'd like to save the money, Casio makes a few attractive watches that are similar and fit everything except the automatic movement. I don't think you can get an automatic movement for $50 anymore.
>inb4 someone finds a chinese no name on aliexpress for $40

is seiko the funko pop of watches?

>>17588283
>uhh yeah it's half past....uh...little dipper?
>>17588276
same, im in love with it as well

>>17588281
>those misaligned indicies
lol

>>17588279
As if Seiko wasn't shit enough at the best of times, they always cancel the watches that are actually good. It's enough to drive a man to drink.

>>17588289
>He doesn't know about swatch
They were the original "collectable" shitters, with even lower QC. Just look at the length people go to get a moonswatch, which is literally made out of trash.
I have to agree with you though, seiko is like that but for watch "enthusiasts" who read outdated articles about the SKX and think they're still good value.

>>17588299
>be seiko
>make the sexiest version of the alpinist known to man
>limit it to 500 examples

>>17588303
Yeah but I don't think anyone actually held Swatches in high regard. They were always unabashedly shitter watches and that was the whole point. People talk about current year Seiko as if they actually make quality watches.

>>17588254
I can buy Bulova and Tissot at any Macy's in the US. Sure seagull is not as easy to find, but it's likely the same in China as it is for Bulova and Tissot here, available in most stores

>>17588305
Honestly, how do you look at this and think "eh...... nah, I don't think a lot of people would buy these. There's no way the amount of people willing to buy a watch like this would be worth tooling up for a full production."

>>17588303
>who read outdated articles about the SKX and think they're still good value.
I will never not get tired with posting picrel

>>17588305
>>17588299
This and them putting that shit 6R movement into two thousand dollar watches is enough to justify fat man and little boy

>>17588293
So you don't know what indices are, do you?

Should we do something about that outdated beginner buying guide? I'd be willing to put some hours into it

picrel curlgurl and that other trip if some old fags are present

>>17588321
>curlgurl
She's a medical doctor now lmao

>>17588268
>Seiko used to make good affordable watches but dont anymore
who does then?

>woman
roflmao
but yes a new beginner guide is in order i feel

>>17588324
Unironically Orient and various brands on Aliexpress.

>>17588321
Me like the tushy

>>17588324
Agree with that other guy, Orient.
Their basic movement thats also in the Kamasu is way better than 4R and 6R.

>>17588321
Newfag here, what's the story behind this? I can feel my newrons activating

>>17588345
attention whore posts tits and ass on 4chan in a thread that has nothing to with either, gets her dopamine hit from the basement dwellers and moves on
a tale as old as time

Guys, no matter how hard I try I cant seem to get the appeal of flieger watches.
I get how they made sense back when the Krauts invented them but they seem so LARPy to me.

>>17588324
As an owner of a Bambino and a Seiko 5, I like the size of a Seiko more but wish it had manual winding. Turns out if I put it down after coming home from work, its dead by the next morning. Minor inconvenience but I just like the Seiko more than the bambino simply for the size however I am also unusual in liking a ~36-38mm case over the current traditional 40mm+ for men.

>>17588345
>Newfag here, what's the story behind this?
Curlgurl (the blonde) was a tripfag back in 2011 I think. She was actually one of the better posters here. Her real name is Lena. The girl on the left was somehow obsessed with her and posted pictures of Lena mogging her. The one I posted came directly from her.

There was also an Indian girl who posted here at the same time. She was solely responsible for raising Indian woman sex appeal. But then her nudes and some private porn leaked.

This board back then was really great. I sometimes come back to 4chan but it lost its magic.
Picrel another curlgurl.

>>17588350
They are the fashion watch equivalent of field watches, way too big for no reason. Don't get me started on modern ones, with an entire novel written on the dial.

>>17588350
They run a little big but they're pretty classy and very readable. Maybe you do have to kinda be into old WW2 military stuff to really get it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sbyB2Dc5m4

>>17588355
>>17588349
>>17588345

Man anyone remember Knochensack?
He consistantly posted great fits.
>But then her nudes and some private porn leaked.
Yeah and Knochensack turned out to be a dicksucking homo and his gay porn got leaked.
God I miss old effay

>>17588357
>for no reason
There was definitely a reason.

>>17588355
>>17588359
Man that's hilarious, thanks for the laugh.

Was talking to my lawyer friend about getting my first nice watch. I was looking at a Sinn. He said "What's the point in getting a watch brand that normies don't know? To impress other watch nerds? Get a Rolex, Omega or Apple Watch or nothing at all."

Well? Is he right?

>>17588330
My dude the AliExpress watches use seiko movements which are the shit part

>>17588365
Yes

>>17588365
Get what you like, but sometimes it is important to impress people, especially if you are a lawyer.

>>17588365
alien Mars

>>17588365
That shit didn't happen and you know it.

>>17588351
7S26 were known for simetimes having problems getting to full wind yes. 4R is ok in that regard.

>>17588359
>anon was surprised when the dude in a padded shoulder jacket and waist belt was a homo

>>17588355
i'm just here on /fa/ because of of this watch thread, have been in it since it was on /g/, but i do remember how /fa/ meme's were so powerful that they would leak onto other boards and would always draw attention.

seems this board is so dead now that it's literally just /wt/ keeping it alive.

>>17588374
Okay.

>>17588383
dam taht definitely proves it

>>17588385
All content on the internet is AI generated propaganda. You have been the only "person" in your image of the internet since 2011. Why continue arguing about authenticity?

>>17588391
who says ai isnt authentic? i bet i could have a more enlightening and engaging conversation with an AI than 95% of people anyway

>>17588393
The guy arguing that the above conversation never happened.

>>17588393
>I would prefer talking to a robot that mirrors all of my ideas and energy back at me over talking to a real person
Says more about you than it says about anyone else, to be honest.

>>17588350
You just need to find the right pilot watch.

>>17588365
Yes, he's absolutely right.

That's the truth people don't want to admit to themselves. 99% of people do not have a fucking clue about watches outside of those companies, you'd have better luck getting recognition on a shitty fashion watch like Diesel.

If you're buying a watch for other people, you buy one of those. If you're buying a watch for yourself, the brand doesn't matter, all that matters is you like the look of it.

>>17588366
Seiko movements are fantastic. I get +/-5 SPD out of mine, and that's pretty typical. But you keep sperging out about taking the back off and nudging a lever, why don't you just take it to a repair store if you're too dumb to do it yourself? I doubt they'll charge you more than 50 bucks.

>>17588398
>>>I would prefer talking to a robot that mirrors all of my ideas and energy back at me over talking to a real person
yes, and?

>>17588404
Hmm. My seiko was +15 spd out of the box. Can't say I share the same experience. I also tried to open the back and it was fucking cemented shut and with the tool I couldn't even open it. Why should I have to spend extra cash to get half decent time because seiko is too fucking cheap and lazy to regulate it themselves?

>yfw that smelly sperg brought his chinkshit seiko in to be repaired again

>>17588406
>Hmm. My seiko was +15 spd out of the box
have a turtle with the 4R and it's -15 per day
my eta2824 is +1 seconds prer day

>>17588406
If you're too weak to open a case back, I'm afraid you're going to have to pay 50 bucks for someone else to do it. Maybe ask a man to do it for you?

In my mind, regulating a watch is just part of owning an automatic. It's like complaining that you have to buy a watch winder if you buy too many watches or they'll all run out of charge if you don't wear them for a few days. If accuracy was that important, why wouldn't you buy a quartz? My old quartz seiko is +/-5 SPY.

>>17588413
The tool kept slipping no matter how tight fuck me

>>17588413
Cope. Goalposts moving
>15 spd isn't bad ootb!!!
>regulate it yourself!

>>17588415
I mean, it isn't. It's well within spec for a 30 dollar movement. If you needed COSC, why didn't you buy one?

A bad movement would have lots of variance. If you're gaining 15 seconds one day, then 30 the next, that's a bad movement. If it's consistent +/-X, then it's solid.

>>17588330
>>17588340
Isn't orient owned by seiko though?
did the seiko name just get too big for its britches?

>>17588365
I know this is just bait but it's wild how many people actually think like this.

>>17588424
>Isn't orient owned by seiko though?
No thats a common misconception.
Both Seiko and Orient have the same parent company but they are completely independent from each other. It's like the swatch group in a sense. Omega and Tissot have nothing in common aside from sharing the same parent

>>17588420
The specs are just shit is all. Even the goymatic 80 shit movements are +/-10 I think. If you have to reset your watch everyday to be accurate to the minute if you get something on the edge of the spec +/-45 I wouldn't deem that acceptable desu

>>17588401
Look at that gigantic crown just begging to be busted off.

>>17588430
ohh okay
the kamatsu looks appealing, their other watches do too but I really don't like their logo

>>17588383
Way too many people think like this, just buy the watch you want and don't listen to your friend.

>>17588435
>He doesn't know it's purpouse is to allow the watch to be adjusted while wearing gloves.

>>17588452
How often does one do this? When will you ever need to adjust it and also need to wear gloves?

>>17588456
>what is a flieger?

>>17588433
>Even the goymatic 80 shit movements are +/-10 I think.
I've seen some really shitty variance out of some goymatics, and regulating them yourself is a pain in the ass. I don't think it's a great movement, they're machine regulated, which is why ETA don't give actual +/- figures for them, because they're probably afraid of people sending them back.

I wouldn't deem +/-45 acceptable either, but it's not hard to take the back off and regulate it, and it's pretty rare to see one past +/-20 from the factory. If Seikos had shit variance, then sure, the goymatic is a better movement. You've probably got a higher chance of getting a lemon with a Seiko, but you can replace it 6 times for cheaper than a single goymatic 5 year service charge. If I needed better than +/-10SPD, I'd just use quartz.

>>17588456
I know what it's for, but I'm not a German ww2 airman. I wear watches to work and turn wrenches and to go out for chicken wings and shit. If you're going to wear a watch around like that you're going to want the crown to be protected. Does the crown even screw down?

>>17588469
You wear watches while wrenching? Brave man

>>17588472
Is the risk to me or to the watches?

>>17588404
Correct. If you wear a Lange or a Dufour or JLC people will look at those watches and not know if they're $500 or 50,000 or a million.

I'd add Cartier to the list people recognize, at least the name of. Women tend to respond very favorably

>>17588486
>Correct. If you wear a Lange or a Dufour or JLC people will look at those watches and not know if they're $500 or 50,000 or a million.
Is that genuinely a problem? If anything I'd argue you'd want your watch to look less valuable so people are less likely to try to rob you. But maybe that's the old money stealth wealth in me talking.

>>17588497
have you tried not being an insufferable loser for a day, dadwatch? you must be unbearable considering it comes across even in an anonymous forum

>>17588506
Holy fuck dadwatchspotting omega based

>>17588481
to the watches

>>17588506
That's not dad watch. Dad watch would say flaunt it if you got it. That's the entire reason he wears a gaudy oversized watch(hence dad watch) and feels the need to post bathroom selfies of him with his ugly MVMT looking oversized watch in his plastic suit to try to impress unnamed nobodies on the internet. He absolutely stinks of new money.

>>17588521
ok dadwatch
>>17588514
i calls em like I sees em

>>17588486
>Correct. If you wear a Lange or a Dufour or JLC people will look at those watches and not know if they're $500 or 50,000 or a million.
and that's one reason why those brands are based.

>>17588523
why would dadwatch make fun of dadwatch tho

>>17588536
its called falsefagging, newfren

>>17588540
You know it's not dadwatch because dadwatch would have posted a reply with a picture of him wearing his watch in a chipotle or something.

>>17588383
He sure writes like a retard for a lawyer

>>17588556
Lawyers are basically all just that smug annoying shit stirrer that was on your high school debate team.

>>17588497
It's not a problem, it's just a consideration.

Is it really true that used 2 tone Rolex values go to shit compared to all steel or gold? I really like the 2 tones because I think they have character, but most other people don't seem to agree and I don't want to sound like an investor retard but if you're spending this much on a watch maybe it does make more sense to buy a steel watch that could break even in value in a few years if you needed to sell rather than buy a 2 tone that you'll be lucky to sell half price.

Thoughts on the GWM5610-1 ? I ordered it yesterday and it arrived today. My first G-shock but so far I think it's pretty nifty

>>17588145
Anyone got any recommendations for good solar watches for under $400 AUD? I've had a Casio Tough Solar since 2018 but the band just broke, I could buy a new band but would just like to see what's out there. Cheers!

>>17588652
Check out Casio Lineage or Oceanus

>>17588652
>aud
What watch did you wear in the covid camps?

>>17588647
Easily one of the best value gshocks, all the features you need without costing too much. I'm thinking of getting one myself because I'm too much of a cheapskate to buy the gw5000.

Who do you think is buying things like this?

>>17588718
Probably celebrities that do part time DJ gigs for fun like Idris Elba.

>>17588145
Bruh I need

>>17588722
Is that the 41mm version?

>>17588647
Is that the latest one with updated module? I autistically avoided the previous version and got the plain DW5600 instead because I need to see current time in stopwatch and countdown modes. If you have the latest one, based. I need to get one.

>>17588730
yea, came with the 3495 module

>>17588733
Nice, you got a great watch.

>>17588735
Thank you senpai. Eagerly waitin for my JDM Lineage to come next week... I think I may be starting a Casio addiction

>>17588722
The more I see the explorer the more it is growing on me and I originally hated it. Wtf

>>17588647
How much did you pay for it? Going for 126$ on Amazon.

>>17588169
anon you posted the wrong one

>>17588753
yea I paid around $120

Found my Grandfather's Willard. It was recrystallised in the late 80s bc Seiko poly glass used to scratch so easily. Getting the dial relumed with a general service. Can't wait.

>>17588773
That's nice, but you can always get something better in the Islander catalog, and for less money.

help me wt i want a rolex president like pic related, but i dont want to spend anything more than 10k
do you guys trust the auth ebay listings? is there any reputable used dealer that would have one at a barebones price like that? should i abandon hope and just get a $200 rep? leaning on the latter. this is my first post in wt, say i have shit taste if you want.

>>17588774
Stop shilling that garbage brand

>>17588799
A rep will always be way lighter given it'll be plated. A solid gold day date is heavy af. You could build yourself a 1:1 rep using a gold case and gen bracelet, then convert a 3135 to a 3155 or 52 or whatever the day date uses. Should be way less than 10k and be basically a gen depending on how you do it

>>17588802
thanks anon, ive considered that. I just love the look of the watch and think its the best looking one. I would totally go after the real thing if i could get one for 6-8k. but 15-17 doesnt feel right for a used vintage watch. I found a rep thats 36mm since i dont think a pres should be any bigger.maybe a 2008 style recession would bring prices down

>>17588799
>>17588809
Why don't you buy a Islander watch? Is the same quality for a lot less money.

i smell favela ape spam

Nowadays El Primero retails $10K. Anybody knows how much it was back in 1970's?

>>17588858
Did you check between your legs?

>>17588518
Eh, not really. For working I use field watches with screw down crowns. Sapphire crystal should resist any scratches or chemicals or oil I'm working with, the screw down crown should keep that bullshit out of the inside of the watch, and I use a rubber or nylon strap that I don't care about getting dirty. Most of that stuff should wipe off of the watch itself relatively easy. You might get an occasional scratch on the case but probably nothing too serious.

Guess what watch brand I use for work watches.

>>17588909
Rolex

>>17588809
Which dealer and factory's that?

What can I get for 200 or less?

I like simple Seiko or Casio styling, with dark gun metal grey bands.

>>17588145
What does this thread think of Vostok EUROPE watches?

>>17588835
>Islander
>Same quality as Rolex

>>17588799
You can get a gold 34mm Oyster Perpetual Date for under 10k

>>17588962
>No box
>No papers
>No bracelet
>Strap too small

what are some legit sites to get $200 rep watches from??

I don't care if it's a rep, just want a nice looking thing that's cheap

>>17588949
If you want digital, get Casio. If you want analog, get a chinkwatch with a Seiko movement in it.

Gun metal is going to be a harder ask, at this price point basically all you're going to get is either steel, or poorly plated steel that will scratch off and look like shit.

>>17588171
It's clear what you have to do now: get a Day-Date.

How do I clean my G Shock? Soft bristle toothbrush and hand soap? YT is full of autistic bullshit that I don't think is necessary unless I'm wrong.

>>17588862
$150

>>17588970
$200 will get you a shitter on DHGate or AliExpress. Unfortunately leddit is the best place for information, all the old forums are basically dead at this point. Check out ChinaTime for the cheaper stuff and RepTime for higher end (warning: mega leddit cancer at RepTime, especially the jannies).

>>17588971
Aight cheers.

Gun metal is just my preference, idk if it's actually styling or not though but with the right face i'm down for any kind of band 2bh

>>17588773
Nice! I say don't relume it, it'll look out of place.

>>17588796
It looks like a balloon.

>>17588647
looking/waiting for a version in gray without colored text/accents/whatever

>>17589027
I was erring against it for the same reason, but spoke to Adrian at Vintage Time Australia who was inclined to suggest I do. I agreed on the basis it's already had the crystal done ages ago so it's not collector grade. Also, I'll never sell it and plan on wearing it all the time!

Is it worth it to buy a steel casio?

>>17588980
Bowl of water, teeny tiny drop of dish soap just enough to break the surface tension.

Drop it in, let it soak for 20-30 minutes then shake and wash. I'd use a microfiber cloth, but if it's filthy you could scrub it down

>>17589073
Don't relume it. It's aged nicely, you cannot replicate that kind of aging and will look worse, especially with the patina on the case.

>>17589073
that bitch Adrian is just trying to squeeze out more money out of you, don't relume it, don't restore it
crystal changes are basically like battery changes, unless it originally had some chamfered top hat etc etc bullshit that's impossible to find aftermarker
since it's just a simple round crystal I'd even say that get it fitted with sapphire and be done with it

>>17588965
Do Rolex simps really need a cardboard box and a piece of paper to chuck in a closet while wearing a piece of jewelry?

>>17589139
But muh zebra wood omega case

>>17588171
why are you lying on the internet?

>>17589139
Otherwise you could get something fake+more difficult to resell down the line

Had AI generate this:

In the heart of Japan, where the mountains rise,
A watchmaker creates, with mastery and surprise,
A timepiece of beauty, with every detail refined,
Grand Seiko, a watch, that's truly one of a kind.

From the hands that move, with a precision rare,
To the dials that shimmer, with a subtle glare,
Each component is crafted, with care and skill,
To make a watch, that's a true work of thrill.

With movements that sing, with an elegant grace,
And cases that shine, with a polished face,
The Grand Seiko is a watch, that's built to last,
A symbol of Japan's craftsmanship, that's unsurpassed.

In every model, a story unfolds,
Of innovation, and design that never grows old,
From the Snowflake's texture, like the winter's chill,
To the Spring Drive's glide, like a stream's gentle thrill.

A Grand Seiko is a watch, that's made with pride,
A masterpiece of horology, that will never subside,
So wear it with honor, and let it shine,
A Grand Seiko, a watch, that's truly divine.

>>17588796
I was in a Blancpain AD a couple weeks ago ready to buy a Fifty Fathoms but tried it on and it wears like a fucking tuna can. It's absolutely massive. I could deal with the 45mm diameter but not the almost 16mm thickness. Sad!

>>17589151
>buys used luxury goods
>worries about getting fakes
If you weren't so miserly you could just buy new stuff direct and not worry if you got a fake box or not.

>>17589161
Try that with your nearest Rolex today and see where it gets you. Impossible mode: no undesirable models

omegachads how we feeling?

>>17589166
Rolexes are gay and for boomers so I don't care you have to be on a good boy point system to buy them.

>>17589169
Kinda bummed actually, heavily considering swapping for 124270 now.

>>17588219
>>17588221
seems cringe, bro
like somebody tried to find a niche and came up with something noone asked for

Is there any solution to jerking off with an auto? I've been tracking my watch. If I don't jerk off, it's +/-2SPD. If I jerk off lightly, it's +7. Jerk off normally, it's +30 after a few sessions.

>>17589202
The real reason why you wear your watch on your less-dominant hand.

>>17589202
>>17589202
You’re messing with the diashock fella, check your watch manual and see if it can handle strong vibrations.

>>17589202
Are you the guy who wears a watch on both wrists? The long island watch guy?

>>17588145
Do watchmaking questions go in here or in /diy?
I got a quartz watch from goodwill and since the casing is roomy I thought I'd put in a wind-up mechanical movement from ebay. Can I get away with sticking the movement to the dial with glue dots as long as the stem can stick straight out of the case and nothing important gets stuck on the adhesive?

>>17589239
You can ask here. 98% of /wt/ people are mindless consooooomers though and don't actually know what the inside of a watch looks like.

I wouldn't use glue simply due to the continual off-gassing and its weak holding for shock resistance. That glue will continue to cure and off-gas corrosive shit to the brass and may fog up the dial. If everything involved is nearly disposable and you're experimenting go for it. But for a heavy automatic you really want some kind of mechanical hold to the case, usually eccentric screws or pan head screws holding it in place.

>>17588311
Seiko does this at least once a year it's so fucking annoying

>>17588153
Some do but they will sell at the top end of the used market. Much better to find a deal on Moda or Reddit.

When I first got into watches I bought a dress watch. Then I thought dress watches were basic and went for divers/ sports watches. A few years later (now) I think that divers are maximum LARPy cringe, like wearing full camo to work. Now I'm back to one single dress watch that I take everywhere except swimming.

>>17588365
Sort of. The only people who notice or care about watches are watch guys and maybe gold digging women if you’re single. On the off chance if a normie happens to notice a Rolex on your wrist they won’t be impressed they’ll think you’re an insecure asshole (which desu most of us are) for wasting so much money on a stupid watch. At the end of the day all that should matter is if wearing it makes you feel good.

Watch spot?
https://youtu.be/ygCIl31ay9M
Think it's a Breitling chronomat green

>>17589250

If I wanted to grind down the turtle part of the turle like in picrel, what would be the best way to do that?
Is that idea retarded, should I just get a new case and fit all parts of my existing watch into that?
I feel like the turtle is entirely too big, even on my 8.2 inch wrist.

>>17589295
Get a samurai or 62mas dingus

>>17589302
samurai is just marginally smaller. turtle = 45mm samurai = 44mm
I already own this turtle and dont want to buy another SEIKOpe

>>17589295
Best way to do it is to simply sell it and but the one on the right which is what you want. You're still going to come out of pocket a lot of money

The "i'd like to ruin this and make it into trash" method is to use sandpaper and dremel to remove material hoping its solid metal with enough material to remove. The expensive method would be to have someone with a mill remove material, but they charge $400 an hour with a 2-4 hour minimum for setup, milling, and finish work. it won't be cheap to have someone competent do it. So either destroy it and buy a new case, or just buy a new case.

>>17589319
will sell it then. thanks

>>17589295
Sell it and buy a better case from China. You can get clones of all those parts, the dial might be slightly worse but the rest will probably be better, cheap chink cases come with sapphire and a lot have ceramic bezels.

>>17588749
It looks exceptionally generic and boring.
>but muh build quality
cannot even see the movement

>>17589342
where are all these superior chink seiko clones I keep hearing about on here

>>17589361
True just buy a rep at that point

>>17589363
They aren't exact copies they are homages. See steeldive Willard and san martin

>>17589161
>you could just buy new stuff
Let me just go down to the nearest Mercedes dealer and get a new-old-stock CLK DTM AMG right quick, you fucking spaz.
Do you even understand the point of going vintage?

Sorry but there is no point in having a display caseback unless the movement is actually well decorated. If the movement is ugly, I don't want to see it. If you disagree, you're a complete pleb.

>>17589363
Just go on aliexpress. You can get the case, movement, a dial and hands for under a hundred bucks. If you're lazier and don't mind seeing a stupid logo on the dial you can buy a pre-built for a bit more.

>>17589367
Im kinda on the same boat with this one.
Unless you have extreme watch autists in your circle, or people in the know of how much a rollie costs nowadays and they know your average income, you have nothing to lose with buying a HQ rep. You would only be lying to yourself. But at that point, if all the other NPCs are (mildly intrigued), would you really care that you spent 1k vs 20k for a "real" one with box and papers?

If your social circle entails watch snobs that know what to look for, and you handing your watch over for them to inspect, you have other issues.

pic rel, if I found out one of my homies got a respectable looking Panerai clone/rep, I would actually pat their shoulder for not falling into the merchant trap

love panerai designs, but their marketing scheme is right up there with IWC

>>17589378
When the super reps fool dealers you know you are getting ripped the fuck off buying panerai

>>17589166
Name an undesirable rolex.

>>17589370
There are endless SWISS MADE watch brands that filled their cases with undersized ETA/Sellita movements and given them their CUSTOM rotors and called it an actual thing to pursue and spend money on and had the gall (and legal right) to call them in-house movements.
From the cheapest fashion brands, right on up there with Oris, and maybe worse.

>>17589378
Yeah but why would you bother with a fake cope watch when you could spend that 1K on a watch that's actually nice? The only thing more cringe and pathetic than wearing something to impress others is using fakes to do it.

>>17589388
any and all

>>17589388
Cellini, gold yachtmaster, ladies size datejust

>>17589391
If the entire world had and carried your understanding of value for money instead of endless castes trying to flex and show off "wealth", we wouldnt have this convo.
Given to the human condition, that is exactly why "luxury" brands like Gucci, etc. exist.
For indebted, or somewhat-well-off poors to flex on other poors in their microcosm.
Same goes for the watch world.
Ask a woman if she can tell a fake Michael Kors, DG, Versace handbag from a real one.
The commonman/woman is extremely petty, and the less they know about certain things, the stronger they hold their opinions.

>>17589396
Basic oyster perpetual is also less desirable

>>17589370
There is no point in ever having a display caseback, it just bloats the watch. No, I don't care about how well finished your rotor is.

>>17589391
>1K on a watch that's actually nice?
Like what lollll?????????????

>>17589391
The decent fakes are pretty nice, though. And 99.999% of people would never be able to tell the difference.

If you're buying a watch to show it off to other people, fakes make perfect sense.

I want a classic sport watch sized GMT with no rotating bezel. Imagine a 36mm Rolex Explorer or Datejust with a GMT movement. What are my options? I know a few examples of similar concept watches but almost all are in the higher end range and I'd like to try to shop around for something under $1000 if I could.

>>17589391
If they had money to buy nice watches they wouldn't be buying fakes.

>>17589411
Christopher ward sealander. That's the only one that jumps out. I'm in the same boat. I want a nice gmt but the only one I can think of is explorer ii polar but I missed out on one at the local store and I'm hesitant to spend 9k on chrono24 atm

>>17589411
Oriemt Excpress

>>17589413
chwart

>>17589412
False. I can afford the gen but would rather not spend the money past msrp for the real thing. Picked up a rep gmt master because fuck spending 18k for one when they retail for like 10k, which I would spend if I could

>>17589396
Are these watches they will force you to buy before you can request good ones?

>>17589418
Yeah probably. The ones they can't sell

>>17589411
Marc from Island Watch keeps saying he has a lot more GMTs coming in the future and he's recently said he's going to release a GMT I think some time in june. That might be a potential budget friendly option depending on what it is.

>>17589287
I agree, divers and sport watches are for swaggy kids. Us, true gentleMEN, only wear the most exquisite dress watches. My pick of the bunch? Heh, glad you asked. The luxurious Daniel Wellington, featuring a polymer case and a true metalic caseback for that understated class. It has a refined but durable japanese-designed movement with the cutting edge "quartz" technology (you see the vibrations of a quartz crystal powers a jumping seconds complication). And it has a mineral crystal, much more shatter-proof than the relatively fragile sapphire you'd find in other watches around the same price.

>>17589444
how can you even decide between this and an islander?!

Hear me out
>A day date watch that shows the day to the left of the handset and the date to the right of the hand set
>All of the "numbers" for each window are on the same date wheel so the windows are symmetrically mirrored from each other on each side of the dial
>an automatically turning transparent lenticular filter laying over the day date wheel complication makes the same space on the wheel display differently on the left or the right to allow for the same area on the left to appear as a day abbreviation but appear as a date number on the right
Are these the ravings of a lunatic?

>>17589472
I like the idea.

>>17588321
Yes we should, I wanted to do it and started gathering material but I don't really have time.
I think the guide should focus on cheaper watches since we get a lot of "I'm new to watches what can I get for $150?". If you need some ideas, what I had planned to include was:
The smaller new Casios from the Edifice line
Casios from the vintage line
Some reasonably sized citizen eco drive divers
Casios from the Lineage line
Some classic but still in production cheap Seiko (e.g. SUR315P1)
G-shocks squares, explain their differences + mention aliexpress SS/titanium mod kits
Good Aliexpress shitters (Pagani, San Martin, Baltany, Escapement Time, etc)
---Higher end:
Seiko Dolce
Casio Oceanus
Citizen Chronomaster and other HAQ
Skywalker X-33
Some Grand Seiko

(yes, I like quartz)

>>17589483
>Good Aliexpress shitters (Pagani, San Martin, Baltany, Escapement Time, etc)

>>17589369
if its not from before your parents were born, its not vintage. No, a model from 1992 before you were born doesn't make it vintage. Go polish your dad's watches.

Who in the blue fuck has boxes and papers from 50 years ago?

>>17589489
ahaha laugh all you want but they are good watches ahaha

>>17588241
Don't get a cheap automatic. SARB033/035 was the last worthwhile auto for under $500. Either get a quartz or save up for a mid range mechanical Seiko, Tissot, Hamilton, or even a vintage Omega.

>Orient
Looks cheap irl
>Seiko 5
Looks cheap irl

>>17589504
This but unironically.

>>17589522
I wonder if they look cheap because they are cheap.

>>17589529
Right, but why would you want to buy and wear something that looks cheap?

>>17589534
Is there a way to make a cheap watch look expensive? How would a budget level company do that?

>>17589389
oris didn't call their movements inhouse before the 400, which is inhouse. they literally tell you on the website the caliber it was based on for the other movements. with shit like breitling or iwc on the other hand just list their own codes on the website and you have to use a third party site to find out if/what it was based on

>>17589436
Posting this again doesn't make it true.

>>17589541
>photofraud on Instagram
>sell online exclusively so people can't see it irl before they buy

>>17589548
No I mean on the watches themselves. What makes a San Martin GMT look cheap but a Tudor or Rolex equivalent look expensive? Even in video reviews and stuff some of the San Martin GMTs look pretty clean.

>>17589567
The logo looks cartoonish

>>17589572
Good thing unbranded versions exist, right?

>>17589567
Some people actually prefer the San Martins to the Tudors because the cases are notably thinner.

>>17589576
Unbranded watches always look like dollar store junk.

Watches only start looking expensive when they have fancy textured dials, in my opinion. Rolexes all look no different from the shit running off chink production lines.

>>17589567
just look at the surface of the bracelet or bezel, or the edge of the hands. It all looks really badly done

>>17589584
So the brand logo makes a watch look expensive?

>>17589576
That looks worse with the blank space. Dollar store watch as the other guy said. You need a half decent logo (unironically islander is not a bad logo)

>>17589591
Damn right

>>17589524
It was meant to be unironically ironic

>>17589584
>>17589591
You think like women. Unbranded watches are based if they have a good overall design

>>17589597
Wow it looks like a grand seiko!
Is that zaratsu polishing as well.

>>17589591
Fuck off Marc, nobody wants your shit watches

>>17589590
No, the lack of one makes a watch look cheap.

>>17589598
The brain expects to see something there, because that's just what watches look like.

>>17589597
what is it with the "I slander" watches lately? Are they good?

>>17589606
They're chink watches at a 200% markup, with slower shipping times.

>>17589597
I like that, I'm sure its overpriced though.

>>17589606
Considering the price and the features you get they are excellent. Very accessible utilitarian watches. Fags here just wretch at anything that isn't Rolex or Casio or one of the other sacred cow brands.

>>17589609
It's not in stock now, but it was under $200. They did open heart versions too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BLxU06PCW8

what sub $500 watch has the best movement?

Lume is tacky and unnecessary. I've never been in a situation where I was glad I had lume.
It makes watches look like cheap plastic toys.
Even worse when dress watches have it.

>>17589622
Mondaine EVO2 AUTOMATIC MSE.35610.LB
It has a SW200-1 for around $400

>>17589625
touch grass

>>17589629
Mundane?

>>17589630
You can touch my hard throbbing shemale dick

>>17589625
Rolex lume sucks too. No one ever mentions that. Sure the blue looks cool but a full charge lasts 5 mins in the dark, maybe 15 mins max

>>17589625
I like lume on hands, which is also where it looks ugliest. It's cool to wake up at 4AM and still be able to check your watch, and I prefer the added utility. Full lume dials and lume bezels always seem like a bit of a waste of time, but at least with bezels you have to paint the inserts anyway, so you might as well do it with lume.

>>17589622
Solar radio/Bluetooth G-SHOCK module

>>17589637
It's not a bug, it's a feature. You want to minimize the light in the room as much as possible to spare the vegas hookers and your self conscious boomer ass from your ugly dad/grandpa body after you turn out the lights. Also you don't want to see your hag wife anymore after 7 kids.

>>17589638
Take the tritium pill.

>>17589638
I have never once been able to see my watch at 4 am from lume even with watches with alleged "great lume"

>>17589567
Cheap materials that scratch easily and degrade over time, tacky or knock-off design, no attention to detail, inaccurate movements, thick ugly case to accommodate cheap movements, etc. etc. A cheap watch is basically a fedora for your wrist.

>>17589659
It has to be actually dark in the room, try turning off your nightlight.

>>17589653
Bad idea: tritium goes super dim after like 7-8 years.

>>17589625
For divers is required for ISO certification you dumb fuck

>>17589686
No it doesn't. It starts getting noticeably dimmer after about 12 or so years but it'll still be visible in the dark for 20 years or more. I've had tritium vials kicking around that long.

>>17589636
Okay whip it out

Kinda want one of these. Any wt schizos have reasons why I shouldn't buy it?

>>17589696
>second 12 hour hand
>not 24 hour GMT

>>17589661
That's closer to Tudor and their shitty QC than San Martin and their non existent QC

>>17589696
jesus christ

>>17589661
Again, the San Martins are thinner than the tudors. And the fit and finish looks fine.

>>17589753
They are thinner because they don't function the same as a Tudor. I could make the Tudor thinner too with a cheaper movement if I were Rolex too lmao

>>17589094
Yea that's probably safest. I was a little worried the brush would be too abrasive.

>>17589763
They literally have the same complications.

>>17589763
Didn't you just argue that cheaper movements are thicker here? >>17589661

>>17589765
Yes but one has a jumping hour hand the other a jumping gmt hand. Why don't cheaper gmts all use a jumping hour hand? Think about it for a minute

>>17589767
Not me

>>17589295
Have you seen a turtle in person? It's a lot less bulbous and more aesthetic than pictures make them look. Tried out a turtle at Macy's years ago and it looked great.

>>17589753
>the fit and finish looks fine
Yes fren Chinese quality very good quality

>>17589786
Not him, but what a retarded argument. 90% of people who spend <$100 on an aliexpress watch have watched several youtube reviews beforehand, so these brands NEED to make decently finished watches. Nothing like cutting costs on construnction, where no one finds out until 20 years later

>>17589786
>propaganda headline
>nyc parking structure collapsed this week
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asLWBGtAhZk

>>17589786
>Talking about the relative quality of a specific product
>"YEAH BUT WHAT ABOUT THE IMPROPER USE OF AN UNRELATED GENERIC MATERIAL IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT INDUSTRY!?!?!"

>>17589802
>Vox

>>17589807

>>17589813
Yes, exactly, I'm the one in the middle enduring you faggots babbling on about building codes in a discussion about a fucking watch.

>>17589606
>re they good?
No, it's cheap chink shit. There's one guy here that's shilling them seriously and a bunch of guys shilling then ironically. If you want a cheap watch, you're honestly better off with an AliExpress brand like San Martin, Pagani or Sea-Gull than with an Islander.

>>17589622
Seagull 1963 for mechanical or a Casio Oceanus for quartz.

>>17589802
>built in 1925
100 years is a pretty good run with apparently minimal maintenance, isn't it?

>>17589824
Everyone talks favorably about them. Everyone that has them anyway.

>>17589829
Case in point, this is the guy shilling them for real.

>>17588145
Let me guess you need more?

>>17589833
There's more than one.

>>17589799
>>17589803
If you want to buy a dollar store watch knowing that everyone will think it looks cheap and/or it'll fall apart, then by all means go for it. All I'm saying is you shouldn't kid yourself about what it is.

>>17589854
I think you overestimate how much the typical uninitiated normie knows about watches. The average person knows rolex, casio, timex, maybe cartier. They wouldn't know the difference between San Martin and Tag Heuer. Not only that but they wouldn't care.

new thread

>>17589881
>>17589881
>>17589881

>literally just an overpriced seiko with a meme dial and chinese titanium with a shit coating
>still want it bad
will i ever stop being a faggot?

I bought my first automatic.

Thoughts?

>>17589829
You wouldn't know, for whatever reason there are not a lot of reputable yourube channels on Islander watches

>>17589659
I have the cheapest chink "C3" lume, and I sit in a dark room for 4 hours before bed, and I can still read it at 5am.

>>17589398
I wonder if he ever uses the chrono function?
Just clutters the dial imo

>>17589597
i too like that

recommend a watch for me
> Your budget
Sub 1000€
> Watch type
Gérald Genta inspired
> Movement
automatic is preferred, but quartz is alright if it looks cool
> Desired features
100m water resistance, date
> Preferred strap option
integrated metal strap
> Wrist size or desired watch size
around 40mm

>>17588153
I've had a datejust, second hand market is tanked in many countries.
Find a secondhand unofficial reseller that has a good overall reputation. That's really your best bet if you want one. Personally I prefer Omega and Alternative brands with zany faces today, you mean I'm not a charted accountant or hanging around a horse racing track all day.

>>17591044
tissot prx automatic

>>17589834
HAH I also have one of those, great watch for sports or general wear if you might knock it.

>>17591175
good choice, but I think it looks cheap irl