/fa/ - Fashion

>>17574639
lmao it isn't 2011 anymore faggot nobody wears straight leg jeans except mexicans

>>17574639
i have some hemp jeans that look exactly like the texture in OP

Has anyone here handled a pair of cordora or kevlar infused denim? I know cone mills made some years ago. I'm interesting in trying it but im afraid it would be really uncomfortable.
Pic is just an example of the fabric

>>17574701
I haven't but any regular denim above 20oz is probably bulletproof already

>>17574646
like 80% of people I see are wearing jeans, the rest are wearing shitty track pants

>>17574701
I've got a pair of N&F jeans with Dyneema in them, they softened up quite a bit.

Doing the Lord's work keeping these threads going. I won't post in them, but good on you

Just copped a pair of orSlow Ivy 107s, making these my 5th pair of selvedge jeans and 3rd pair of onewash/raws.
Anyone own any orSlow jeans? How do they compare?

>>17574784
nice looking denim, is it just your lighting or are they pretty light? I see they're listed as mid rise but your photo makes it look fairly high too.

>>17574794
I stole that pic from farfetch, where I copped them. They're still in the mail. So yeah, the lighting has gotta be pretty flattering, and the model is skinny as hell (something like a 27 inch waist) which might make them look higher rise, idk.

Need a new pair of straight leg Levi's that won't rip, every pair I get seems to start ripping within 6 months of wearing. Any recs?

>>17574828
which cut and where are they ripping? maybe youre wearing too small a size/cut? I've got levis 501s from the 90s that i bought second hand that i've worn for a couple years and they have zero rips.

>>17574828
Just buy selvedge denim. 2-4 times the price, sure, but if you're having jeans rip every 6 months the selvedge will pay for itself in like 2 years max. Unless you're a fat fuck redditor wearing jeans 2 sizes too small, or you're doing intensive manual labour 40 hours a week, there's no way anything selvedge is going to be ripping in 2 years.

reposten here
>>17563423
hey anon, my package arrived today. Didn't pay VAT or customs, extremely based. A steal for 165EUR, Thanks.

>>17575142
what model and color is this?

>>17575506
>ONI-612-OLOL 12OZ OLIVE WARP AND WEFT
Here is a pic in natural light, it looked very grey in the first pic.

>>17575514
Loove that color, looks great

>>17575142
nice, my acid wash Tanukis should be here in a day or two

If we go by the traditional cotton qualities like high gsm and being long staple cotton, while ignoring slub and nep, which brands are best?

>>17575728
Momotaro makes a bunch of Zimbabwe cotton jeans. They also have "ultimate pima" jeans which are made with sea island cotton genetics but grown in the us.
They are even stupidly cheap on this website ive never heard of.
https://www.pantstrove.com/momotaro-0405-36-13oz-ultimate-pima-cotton-selvedge-denim-high-tapered-fit/
I swear i saw some sea island cotton selvage denim somewhere recently but i can't remember where.
Here are some super long staple cotton jeans from japan blue
https://japanblue-jeans.com/j062243
https://japanblue-jeans.com/j042241
If you want to go in the opposite direction samurai makes some awesome rough texas cotton jeans.

>>17575772
https://www.pantstrove.com/
This website is sketchy, buyer beware. At least make sure you put it on a credit card.
I don't understand what's going on, they don't seem like pieces that would be counterfeit but the prices are really weird and no sizes of jeans are out of stock. Has anyone from the UK used these guys before?

>>17575809
Yeah this is some sketchy scam website, stay away.

>>17575657
Tanukis are here

>>17575809
100% scam
literally everything is on sale at way too dumb prices.

>>17574701
I have jeans from swrve that are 33% cordura nylon, it's noticeable but not uncomfortable if you're used to nylon in general

Okay last picture of these lee 101 riders. This is after a wash and hang dry. Denim is still real crispy. Really happy with the fit and glad i washed them since they shrank some.
Denim is solid, very tight weave, lots of vericality.
The zipper fly is a little weird, makes the whiskers on the croch sit differently then they do on button fly jeans. Its a locking zipper which i have only had before on some deadstock wrangler corduroy pants i had. The zipper wont move at all unless the pull is flipped out horizontally.
Still a little room in the waist/top block, i guess i could have gone down another size but they would be real snug in the thighs.
Solid jeans would recommend if you can pick up a pair for $150 or less.

>>17575906
Thanks, i guess i will see if i can find some in a shop around here.
>>17575839
Lets see em.

>>17575917
How do they fit compared to 501 STFs?

>>17575931
They're pretty wild

>>17576011
I don't have any 501s on hand but iirc the 501 has a slightly higher rise and a more gentle taper below the knee then the lees. This site has a measurement chart of the lees so you can compare to the measuments of a pair of jeans you own.
https://www.butterscotchlb.com/products/lee-101-rider-13-75oz-left-hand-twill-selvedge-indigo
For the lee riders i got them in a 30/32 and after a wash the waist measures about 31 leg opening measures 6.5 and the inseam measures about 28.5 so if you are any taller then king of the manlets i would get the 34inch inseam version. Its possible i have an older run or an otherwise weord pair because i bought them new from a private party but they seem to be the same as the current production.

>>17576017
Damn that's awesome

>>17576033
oh wild im usually a 31W/32L in preshrunk jeans, ill keep that in mind thanks

>>17576017
I love the fabric but hate the back pocket placement on these. Needs to be higher.

>>17576017
these are fucking sick great choice anon

>>17576017
holy shit

Never gave much thought or onsideration to unbranded brand, but just found out they're made by naked and famous. So, anybody tried them out? Looking at the 14.5oz selvedge. My whole raw denim journey has been about trying to find the intersection of quality and price, since wal mart jeans and old navy or similar bottom of the bin shit are so shitty.

>>17575514
Honestly that shade of green looks incredible. Great pick.

>>17576266
They are essentially Naked and Famous' import line. All of N&F's pants are made in Canada. Unbranded are made in China if I remember correctly. Considering Unbranded jeans are comparable to standard Levi's full retail prices I'd say they're a good value but I've never owned any myself. Definitely worth considering if you want some selvedge raws on a budget.

>>17574639
>>17574150 this was a fad with the n&f crowd years ago. def a power move, but will be a very niche look glhf

bump with red tornado pic because i love mine

so let me get this straight.
heavy af
no flexibility
drentchs the fuck out
can only be found in blue gray or dark blue
rough af
looks good only if worned by a bare chest muscular gay man with a cowboy hat
are literal work pants

I refuse to belive jeans and denim are a thing it's a psyops

>>17576435
none of those points are true

I haven't copped any new jeans in a bit but thought some of you guys might appreciate my jacked. 16oz undyed and unbleached slub selvedge

close up of the sleeve so you can see the texture

Is Edwin raw denim?

>>17576467
nah
I think they make some selvedge but the stuff you find in fashion stores in japan is not

>spending 400 dollars on a crotch blowout
you can spew "selvedge" denim all you want but the selvedge line is outside the seams. there's nothing special about raw selvedge construction and design that makes them less prone to crotch blowouts. nothing. there's no selvedge there to save you.

>>17576533
just dont be fat lmao

>>17576533
>aaaaaaaaaa I'm gonna debooooooonk
selvedge is cool bud

>>17576533
Have you considered not being fat?

>>17576517
Oh, fair enough
Do you know if they're any good, as far as non-raw jeans go?

>>17576718
I tried some on last year and they were fine but nothing special. Any reason in particular you're interested in them? I'd probably just get levis or lees personally

>>17576723
I'm a yuro so Levis are overpriced here
I just copped a pair of Edwin jeans on discount for 70 eur, I'm trying to understand if they're worth the price as I don't really know anything about denim quality, or if I should return them

>>17576438
I think I have that, n&f natural seed denim, right?

>>17576726
Do you like the fit? Do they look good on you?
Edwin is kind of a weird brand, they offer a very wide range of denim types and qualities, their flagship stuff is made in japan but that doesn't mean the stuff that isn't is bad. Anyway post pics give me a nice closeup of the denim if you can

I have come down once more from my high throne, to bestow denim knowledge on the lowly plebians.

If you want to tighten up your jeans between washes, spray them down with water from a spray bottle and dry in your preferred method.

Now go forth and bleed indigo on every seat you encounter, and be holy.

So have they started rope dying natural indigo jeans yet or are they all still hank dyed?

>>17574639
>DEGEN
fucking cancer thread. this is why we left this shit hole for reddit. way to ruin an almost good thing.

>>17577403
>we

>>17577403
>>17577405
Jej

Someone was talking about chink brands like sauce zhan, red tornado, and Bob dong.
But their prices on aliexpress put them just around entry level japanese? Is it even worth it at that point?

>>17577723
I've been trying to justify going the extra for good jap because of the ethical issue. I like the idea of people being paid for their work.

>>17577766
japanese stuff ain't even that expensive in japan, it's the reseller charge that gets you

>>17576879
I liked it yesterday but don't like it today, realised it's way too tight on the ass and kind of goes into the crotch
Will be returning them

>>17577766
Just buy from japanes sites on rakuten, most of them ship internationally and you will get much better prices then buying from domestic importers.

>>17577723
It depends, i would rather get jeans from a jap brand like TCL then bob dong. I think the more standard red tornados in the $60-$75 range are beating out most things price wise. Sauce Zhan has some more standard offerings but then he also makes some jeans with much more elaborate denim. I can't disagree with anyone who has no interest in spending $200 on Chinese jeans but i think if you compare sauce zhan's denim offerings with the Japanese market to get fabrics like his you would be more in the $400+ range, plus he uses detailing like 925 silver waist buttons.
If you compare a brand like naked and famous to bob dong the biggest differences are in the detailing and more expensive construction methods, bob dong has hidden back pocet rivets, cotton stuffed belt loops so they have that raised ridge on the outside, flat felled inside leg seams, naked and famous has bar tacked back pockets, flat belt loops, welt seams instead of flat felled, the pocket reinforcement rivets they use dont seem to have the little tuft of denim poking through. Bob dong also uses unsandfodized denim so you get the vintage jeans leg twist when they are soaked/shrank, a detail that is very import for that true repro look. All that said you can probably find Japanese repro jeans with all those details for around $160 if you don't mind spending some time on rakuten.
I got my bob dongs for $80 since they were the last size, id say at that price point they are a really strong offering but at $120 many people would rather spend the extra $50 for jap jeans.

>>17578264
>i think if you compare sauce zhan's denim offerings with the Japanese market to get fabrics like his you would be more in the $400+ range, plus he uses detailing like 925 silver waist buttons.
Okay maybe not that much but take for example this slub denim at $125. I would expect a jap jean with this denim to run high $200-mid $300.
Even a naked and famous with denim like this would be at least $200.
https://aliexpress.us/item/3256803321107263.html

>>17574784
I don’t have their denim but I have their fatigue pants and they get worn probably 3 days a week. Supremely comfortable and they have waistband tabs to adjust waist size for bulking season.

>>17576533
I’ve literally never had a crotch blowout and I squat 4 plates. Try pulling your pants up where they’re supposed to be worn.

Does anyone make raw jeans with the action gusset croch?

Bros my ex-wife ironed my only pair of Momotaros. How do I fix this? Soak then hang?

>>17578388
ngl pretty bummed right right now

>>17578315
would be pretty based
>>17578388
try steaming them with the iron if it has that option

I was looking at the website for companion denim yesterday. Very interesting brand. Lots of detailing that you very rarely see on factory produced jeans and some that you never see at all.
https://www.companiondenim.com
A bit of criticism is that they fall into just because you can doesn't mean you should when it comes to some of their ready to wear pieces. They just go too far with added detailing or mix and match features a bit at random.
That said if you are interested in a pair of semi bespoke jeans without going up into the one man operation made to measure price point they seem interesting.
Pic related hemp chord inserted into the hem, i don't get the point of this and it seems superfluous.

>>17578399
Pic related also feels a bit we put all the western details in

>>17574701
>me wearing my kevlar denim shirt with my kevlar denim jeans and my kevlar denim storm rider over my chainmail undershirt and denim print silk underpants with a kevlar nut protector combo.
I am immune to your tricks, Ali! I will visit London again and I will leave alive and unharmed!

>>17578398
I don't have an iron unfortunately.

>>17578419
yea try soaking then hang dry them inside out

>>17578423
I see she ironed my SD103's as well but that pair barely has any wear so hopefully the ironed fold lines won't be visible after a few months of wearing.

Does anyone make wool blend jeans?

>>17578589
N&F had some last year, you might still be able to find some. I think they were called the huntsman or something like that

>>17578589
N&F, wool and prince

>>17574662
how does all the nep F E E L ?

how can you tell if the denim is good quality ?

>>17578712
Feel it, is it heavy and strudy feeling? Look at the label does it have 2% lycra or spandex or some other strech material (bad unless you want really comfortable super tight jeans).
Its a meme at this point but flip the hem up and see if its made with selvage denim pic related. That selvage line usually indicates that the jeans were woven on older mechanical looms which give the denim more irregularly and character then moden looms.
What makes a good denim for you might not make a good denim for somone else, you read a bit about denim, feel some jeans and develop your own preferences. Some people want an exact detail for detail reproduction of a pair of levis from 1944, some people want denim with crazy uneven textures and rough irregular weaving, some people just want a robust feeling pair of jeans.
The most important thing when picking jeans is finding ones that fit you well and are flattering to your body. Try to read about what pants cuts look good on your body type, high rise, low rise? Wide legged? Skinny? Do you work out and need extra room in the thighs? Straight leg or taper? That sort of thing

>>17578712
Here read this article about denim autism
https://www.heddels.com/2011/09/the-essential-raw-denim-breakdown-our-100th-article/

>>17578388
Yeah soak and hang

>>17578241
Name some jap sites pls. I typed japanes denim and just got american eagle and shit.

>>17578388
oh no no no no

>>17578816
denimio
redcast heritage
dutil
standard and strange
selfedge
franklin and poe
rivet and hide
Iron heart america (or international)
freenote cloth
rogue territory

that should get you started

>>17578844
Bless you, kind sir

>>17578844
These all om rakuten? Maybe canadian version is retarded cause i can't find any

>>17578816
https://www.rakuten.co.jp/jeansfirst/?l2-id=item_SP_ShopTopInShopinfo
https://www.rakuten.co.jp/bears/?l2-id=item_SP_ShopTopInShopinfo
https://www.rakuten.ne.jp/gold/eight-g/?l2-id=item_SP_ShopTopInShopinfo
https://www.rakuten.ne.jp/gold/wolfpack/?l2-id=item_SP_ShopTopInShopinfo
https://www.rakuten.ne.jp/gold/rococostore/?l2-id=item_SP_ShopTopInShopinfo
https://www.rakuten.ne.jp/gold/speedway-shop/?s-id=review_sp_shop_info
https://www.rakuten.co.jp/firstadium/?l2-id=item_SP_ShopTopInShopinfo
https://www.rakuten.co.jp/porkys/?l2-id=item_SP_ShopTopInShopinfo
https://www.rakuten.ne.jp/gold/cleverwebshop/?l2-id=item_SP_ShopTopInShopinfo
https://www.rakuten.co.jp/auc-cream-r/?l2-id=item_SP_ShopTopInShopinfo
Also you can use buyee.jp to search rakuten listings
Im missing a bunch of good ones but i don't have my bookmarks handy right now.
Honestly denime is probably easier a lot of the time, but you can find some fun stuff if you are willing to dig around some

>>17578857
I didn't even think rakuten existed outside of japan anymore, last time i looked rakuten.us it was trying to get me to install some coupon browser extension or something lol. Gotta use rakuten.jp

>>17578816
Here is one of the big old shops been around a long time
https://www.rakuten.co.jp/2nd/?l2-id=item_SP_ShopTopInShopinfo
Sorry again that i dont have my bookmarks handy

>>17578816
Last one another of the big stores
https://www.rakuten.ne.jp/gold/earthmarket/?l2-id=item_SP_ShopTopInShopinfo

Lots of stuff in japan that i don't see on the international sites super often

Also the export versions of jap jeans usually don't have the accurates and the red tab because levis gets sue happy

Some day i will get around to picking up a pair of evisu jeans

>>17578857
Denimio is the only Jap shop on that list the rest of them are either US, Canada or Euro. If you're a leaf check out Dutil, their end of season sale is still on I think. I grabbed a pair of Samurais for like 200 CAD. Stock is pretty low now but you might find something in your size.
https://dutildenim.com/collections/end-of-season-sale

>>17577405
>>we

>>17577766
there's nothing wrong with buying from china you (probably nazi) ameritard. either way you're exploiting labor

>>17578712
>>17578754
I'd like to add that I've never worn a pair of jeans more comfortable than my 13.5oz black Tellasons. They came raw and I broke them in for a couple of months, during which time they were incredibly tough and uncomfortable, honestly felt like wearing cardboard. I washed them once after that and literally have never worn more comfortable pants since, sweatpants included. Point is, spandex or other plastic shit makes jeans more comfortable on day 1, but nothing will beat the comfort of 100% cotton raws that you've broken in.

>>17574639
Any of you denimfags know where I can get some flared 60s esque jeans?

>>17578997
>flaired
>60s esque

>>17578997
Ebay, etsy, just search you waist size along with deadstock flared jeans, tons of them out there.

>>17579005
I dont get it

>>17578997
Naked and Famous groovy guys
https://tateandyoko.com/collections/naked-famous-denim-groovy-guy

>>17579006
How do you tell if they're not shit? Deadstock is the way to go?

>>17579015
uhhh is there just no inseam measurement on these?

>>17579020
says right on the link, 34"

>>17579015
god, i lust for these. i already own 3 pairs of nice bootcuts, though. all levis. won't need groovy guys until my 1981 517's bite the bullet which won't be for years.

>>17579015
shit looks so dumb jfc

I just want a proper vintage fitting type 2 that doesn't cost my first child. does it exist?

not ding dong or any other china crap if possible.

>>17579074
>. won't need groovy guys until my 1981 517's bite the bullet which won't be for years.
Im surprised how many of those are still out there, i guess there just isint that much demand for mens flares

>>17579078
if you want to get into some vintage then 517 are abundant for cheap still. paid sub 100 just a year ago for the toughest and comfiest feeling jeans ever. construction details blow me away too. the inner white stitching. none of my modern production jeans have that shit, and all fall apart so easily.

>>17579076
This is like $250
https://item.rakuten.co.jp/2nd/dw-dx4017/
Another couple
https://item.rakuten.co.jp/2nd/dw-dx402xx/
https://item.rakuten.co.jp/2nd/dw-dx402axx/
I will see what else i can find, type 2 has complex construction and lots of details so its only gonna get so cheap

>>17579076
$220
https://item.rakuten.co.jp/earthmarket/407j-sw/
This tcb jeans one is $190, they are really nerdy about doing proper repros
https://item.rakuten.co.jp/bears/tcb-50sjkb/
$150 ive never heard of this brand not sure if they are high tier
https://item.rakuten.co.jp/fearless/tops-ou-552/
And this sugarcane version is only $200
https://item.rakuten.co.jp/auc-americanbass/10014196/
Most of these shops ship international, you might have to email them first.
If they dont a proxy like buyee or zenmarket isn't too expensive.

>>17579067
Shouldn't the flared jeans be made to fit the inseam? Otherwise you're not gonna get as much flare

>>17579094
you can get some good cheap tcb stuff second hand. I'm not a denimhead, but I didn't like the sugar cane jeans I bought at all. They're like... hairy

>>17579095
cuff em

>>17579096
I like a nice hairy denim, they actually singe them off in the sanfordization process so you only see that loomstate raw denim.
In my experience is most of it wears away pretty quickly

>>17579101
nice cock

>>17579096
But maybe you have a pair with the sugar cane fiber in it, haven't touched those so i don't know what they are like. They dont use that in all their denim just a few pieces.

Look at that twist, damn, that's a litte too raw denim for me

>>17579094
Love the tcb. Is that chest size gonna be the actual garment size? I know my current type 3 is 21 inch pit to pit but i'm looking for the martin sheen slightly relaxed look. Part of why i've been so apprehensive of ordering one.

>>17579106
I actually think it's partially that the models torso is diagonal or he pulls all his jackets to the side

>>17579114
There is more measurement info in the listing, the Japanese sites usually have some kind of size chart or table on the listing.
Here is there websites listing for it which is in English and has clearer measurement info.
https://tcbjeans.myshopify.com/collections/jackets-1/products/new-50s-jacket-one-wash

>>17579118
They have a measurement guide too

Are there any good places in London for raw denim?

>>17579197
https://rivetandhide.com/

>>17579199
What about Berlin?

>>17576533
dude you cant wear a chastity cage for months at a time and expect it to not scrape through your jeans

Which of the denim brands make good wool or linen? For denim the marketing about what went into it is far more extensive than even the non denim cotton clothing, which makes me think it's nothing special? The only thing I can think of is sugar cane or washi blend jeans, which I already have.

Any experiences with Frame jeans? They're said to be manufactured in Los Angeles

Are APC jeans any good? They used to be meme'd hard around 2013.

>>17579729
Apc was alway a cheap way to get into raw denim with some modern cut offerings, which were in start contrast to the wide vintage fits popular with Japanese jeans brands. I never found their denim to be that impressive. These days you can get tellasons entry level jeans for $100 on some sites, they offer two good cuts and the denim while non selvage still ages nicely. Or you can get jeans from naked and famous also below the current apc price points but they have a huge emphasic on developing novel and interesting denim fabrics every year. Basically the market has changed and apc is still doing the same thing they were 16+ years ago while competition has gotten fierce.

>>17579702
Lots of Japanese brands will make the occasional linen shirt but 90% of the time its the same western style shirt but really slim cut and dyed with indigo dye kind of thing. They typically use Japanese sourced fabrics and ostensibly they are nice quality but plenty of brands make a nice linnen shirt so the reason to look at the denim brands is for the cut/vibe/muh Japanese craftsmanship and not necessarily because they use some uber linen that's better than anyone elses.
Brands like the real McCoys make wool trowsers and knit sweats. When Japanese denim brands make wool pants the are mostly inspired by military clothing so if you can you might as well get the old surplus stuff.
https://therealmccoys.com/products/1950s-wool-trousers-charcoal
They brag about using fabric made in Scotland so you might as well just buy from some traditional English country brands and save some money.

>>17579778
speaking of N&F they just released a new straight cut today

Another reasonably affordable type 2 jacket, $240, by FOB factory, US retailer denim kind of reminds me of some of the ones pure blue japan uses.
https://www.atriumsf.com/store/p91/fobfactory_g3_denim_jacket.html

The same shop is also doing preorders for $99 made in japan jeans in a few cuts. Other than the zipper fly the detailing looks extremely good for this price point, hidden rivets, stuffed belt loops, branded rivets, patch is suede or corrected grain or something but that's not a huge deal.
https://www.atriumsf.com/kojima_genes_15oz_selvedge.html

>>17578863
Damn, there's a lot of brands I've never heard of. At least I know that since denimio pays for shipping it ends up being about the same if there's a sale

>>17580029
Yeah, a lot of the bigger jap jeans brands that have big international availability are some of the best on the market but there are definitely some fun small brands that don't really get exported overseas that are worth checking out.

>>17574639
Any of you guys familiar with Levi's 501 selvedge? Is there any way to tell from the tags if they are selvedge?

Also some of these pairs had a "white oak denim" tag on the inside.

Some pairs also say "machine wash cold" and "this garment may shrink up to 10%" you can see that but in a foreign language on the tag on the top right.

I also found a pair of 501 CT but they were the wrong size and $20 which is pretty expensive for a thrift store.

>>17580509
>Is there any way to tell from the tags if they are selvedge?
You can just flip up the hem and look for the selvage line.
Levis makes several different lines that use selvage denim. The Levis Vintage Clothing line is probably the most desirable other than actual vintage or antique levis its all reproductions of vintage pairs of jeans. Levis red is ugly wierd avant guard stuff, levis made and crafted is modern cuts in nicer quality denim.

>>17579674
Underrated comment

>>17579872
True guy makes me wanna cream. I hate the dirty fade but i'm almost ready to say fuck it and get it anyway.

>>17580765
Wait a few weeks they should release with some of their other denims for this year. Or email them and ask if they are going to release the true guy in their hard + soft selvage, that would be great for it imo
Then again the double dirty is kinda bangin. Pic related is the original dirty fade, not the double

>>17580765
>>17580786
Oh they have done the true guy in hard + soft
https://tateandyoko.com/products/true-guy-hard-soft-selvedge
Too bad they didn't do it in the frontier denim
Any way hard + soft should be great, i had some texas cotton samurais years ago and they were fantastic.

>>17579199
nice, but is there anything cheaper?

>>17580856
https://www.fenwick.co.uk
https://www.stuartslondon.com

>>17580885
thanks

So wait I should buy a larger size than I normally would with regular jeans because raws will shrink?

>>17580913
It depends on the jeans, most of the raw denim sold these days is saforized (pre shrunk) or one wash (also pre shrunk), you want to buy those in the waist size that will fit you out of the box. Always look for measurement charts and compare to measurements of a pair of jeans you actually own, you cant go by tagged waist size because many brands vanity size their jeans (like a pair tagged 30in actually has a 32in waist)
You only need to size up with jeans that say they are unsaforized or loomstate or otherwise say in the listing that they will shrink. Most of the time they will give you a measurement chart for both raw jeans and the jeans after one wash, so then you compare the one wash measurements to a pair you already own. And then soak or wash inside out gentile cycle without detergent when you get them, no spin cycle or low spin cycle and stop it after a couple minutes, then hang dry.
If you aren't sure you should always contact the retailer and ask if they are preshrunk or not.
Here is a measuring guide so you know how to measure the jeans you own.
https://www.blueingreensoho.com/pages/measurement-guide

Pure blue japan makes the best slub denim and it's not even close.
Sure there are more dramatically slubby jeans out there but pbj just gets the texture perfect, so much depth, such beautiful irregularly. Easily in the top 3 jap jeans ive ever oned

>>17580967

Some scrap denim left over from getting an old pair of texas cotton samurais hemmed. I probably got these in 2010 or so. Don't have the jeans anymore unfortunately those things were shredded by the time i was done with them. The texas cotton fades beautifully and quickly but its not the most durable fabric. Also the japs usually use 100% cotton thread for the construction of the jeans which is one historic detail i could do without. That's one thing iron heart gets really right with their heavy dutry denim, poly cotten thread for the stitching, might even be all poly i forget, way more durable.

>>17579872
GODDAMMIT I JUST BOUGHT EASY GUYS A MONTH AGO

Macro shot of the samurai texas cotton

Macro shot of the 13.75 oz japanese left hand twill on my lee riders.

>>17580926
I see, tanks for the comprehensive explanation

>>17581038
Sure, unfortunately with so many new retailers offering raw denim they don't always do a great job of educating the consumer.
I have seen several sites tell you to buy jeans that need to be shrunk and then wear them for six months without ever soaking them, this is terrible advice, they will fit too big when you get them and then whwn you do wash them all the creases will move when they shirk and the fades will look weird

>>17574646
everyone still wears straight legs except zoomers

>UB144 Skinny Fit 11oz Solid Black Stretch Selvedge Denim
>size 33
>worn twice
>$75
anybody here want to buy them before i list them elsewhere for closer to msrp?

What are some brands that are available at reasonable prices in Poorrope? All of the recommendations seem to focus on USA

>>17581421
Unbranded brand and naked and famous have EU dealers, check the stocklists on their websites.
If you like any of their stock styles https://www.companiondenim.com is extremely well priced for what they offer.
Or just buy from denime and tell them to value them at $40 or something.
Also just google raw denim made in europe and see what you find. Candini mills in Italy makes selvage denim for a shitload of brands.

If I'm buying momotaros and want something that's close to a slim fit, not skinny fit from other brands, do I go with 'narrow tapered' or 'slim tapered'?

>>17581679
You probably want narrow tapered or "natural tapered"
Pic related is helpful
You can reference the fit pics on their website
https://momotaro-jeans.com/bottoms/jeans/regular-fit/slim-tapered-jeans.html
https://momotaro-jeans.com/bottoms/jeans/tight-fit/narrow-tapered-jeans.html

>>17581679
check the measurement against your body measurements and that's your answer

>>17581679
Great jeans btw, they have really good cuts and feel awesome

>>17581700
Thanks, the pictures on their site help a lot and I think your recommendation is right.
>>17581707
I did and know what size to get, just not sure how a 5.5in leg hole looks vs a 7in one.

>>17581717
>just not sure how a 5.5in leg hole looks vs a 7in one.
6.5 to 7 inch is slim 5.5 is TIGHT

>>17579872
Dude I've been looking for months to find a fit like this and they literally just dropped it when I was about to give up and compromise

>>17581717
I wouldn't even be able to get my foot through a 5.5 hem

>>17581745
My favourite thing is them calling it a mid rise when a 31 has like 12.5 rise i think. That's god mode.

>>17580786
>>17580797
I've got the hard + soft weird guys. Fuckin great denim.

Although they kind of missed the mark on their concept of the inside being more comfy than the outside. Rubbing the inside and outside of the fabric you quickly find that the outside has a much nicer soft kind of feeling compared to the inside, where the extra twist yarn from the outside pokes out as these tiny bumps which have a coarse feel.

This is really only noticeably with your hand. The jeans are very comfy and have a great character to them. Mine have started to fade already but i wash my jeans a lot more than others do.

>>17582562
Noticeable* FUCK

>>17582562
>quickly find that the outside has a much nicer soft kind of feeling compared to the inside, where the extra twist yarn from the outside pokes out as these tiny bumps which have a coarse feel.
Yeah i can see that. The big appeal to me is that the short fiber cotton breaks and fades quite quickly but it compromises the durability some or at least it did on my texas cotton jeans so having a nice long staple weft should help the jeans hold up much better.

>>17582633
I wish they would put that extra twist on the inside, though. If that would make the jeans even tougher. I think that would probably turn them into 13 or 14 oz too if my logic is sound.

here is a pair of momotaro jeans made with sea island cotton genetics with 36mm long fibres on average. Can anyone find a pair of raws made with a longer cotton fiber? https://muddygeorge.com/collections/all-products/products/0405-36-13oz-ultimate-pima-cotton-selvedge-denim-high-tapered-fit?variant=40195697377362

>>17582803
Here is one that's all American supima cotton
https://www.atriumsf.com/fob_factory_f151.html

So higher oz for cold weather and lower oz for hot weather?

>>17583534
Yeah generally,8-12 oz for hot summers, 16-20 for cold winters, but denim doesn't insulate that great so you might be better off just wearing long johns under regular jeans in the winter or you could be like the Indonesian denim heads and wear 20oz denim in 90°f weather with 85% humidity.

>>17583534
You can also sometimes find denim where they weave the fibers more loosely so it breathes better.

>>17578754
>finding ones that fit you well and are flattering to your body
i have no idea how to go about this. i have big thighs and maybe wider hips that taper down but a normal waist. i'm not even fat i'm /fit/ and i have abs but it's just my bone structure.

why the fuck are jeans made for the typical apple shaped dude with no ass and chicken legs?

>>17583670
Brave Star strong man pre orders are up.
https://bravestarselvage.com/collections/75-pre-order-collection

>>17583670
There are actually much more options then there used to be, look for athletic fit jeans

Denimbros, is this true??
All this time you were just lazy to wash your clothes?

>>17583928
One wash denim is just wetted then dried to shrink the jeans before the customer gets them, they aren't faded by any noticeable amount and are still very stiff. As for not washing jeans at all, I think it's a misunderstanding that some, but not most, denimheads take too far. It's usually advised to not wash your jeans too often because normies will wash their pants after a single day which wears them out much quicker. On the opposite side never washing jeans will allow dirt buildup and cause abrasion leading to blowouts. Ideally jeans like all pants should be washed when they seem dirty. Denim-degenerates don't do this because they're going after intense fades like coal miners had, which was only because they didn't have the luxury of regularly washing their clothes and they usually didn't wear their denim when the work day was over.

Hnnnnnnggg im lusting after these double knees from kojima genes that hinoya posted

>>17584044
Nice, I got the Samurai double knees. Already got complimented on them. Dutil has them on sale for $200CAD
https://dutildenim.com/collections/samurai/products/samurai-double-knee-work-pant-17oz?variant=39932699443303

I found these flared jeans I like thinking they were 11,000 yen, but they're fucking 11,000 dollars LOL

>>17584346
That's gotta be a pricing error, their stuff isint that expensive.

>>17584346
>>17584355
Yeah i saw two other random pairs on their website that were priced at 12k. It's gotta be an error like then put in yen instead of usd or something. Im sure they will fix it if you email them. They should be like $140 or so

>>17584346
hey, they messed up and put the back pockets at the front lol

i soaked my jeans the other week and it seems that they're starting to fade faster.

Washing my raw bob dongs today, Hoping for at least an inch of shrinkage, 2 would probably be ideal

I feel like such a dork for wearing these while working from home to break them in. They’ve got pretty comfy pretty quick though. 15.7oz, sanforized, One Wash. pirel was error I wore them other than trying them on for hemming in Japan

Another of the back. They’re my first pair of raws and I already get the hype, they feel so well made even compared to a nice pair of Levi’s.

Bonus shot of the entire reason I went to the store in the first place. Wanted a raw jacket. This is a type 2 14.7oz Legacy Blue. Also apologies for sideways pics I’m being a phonefag

>>17585116
Momotaros are super comfortable. They really put a big emphasis on using the best cotton then can. For most of their current jeans the cotton is all hand picked in Zimbabwe. The brand is owned by of the samller Japanese denim mills so it's very easy for them to experiment with different denim and get the fabric exactly how they want.

>>17585119
Great color on that, looks like the really nailed the vintage american denim look.

>>17585120
Yeah they were only super stiff for like a day. After that they’ve been pretty comfy. The length is shortening a bit too, which is nice because I was worried I didn’t ask them to get hemmed enough. I think if they weren’t one was and were unsanforized they would be a bit more stiff
>>17585123
Thanks, I really like it as well. Kinda regretted going with the lighter option at first compared to the jeans but the more I wear it the more I love it.

>>17585085
Ok skinny guy
>>17585114
What cut is this

>>17585163
0201 Slim Straight

>>17585163
>Ok skinny guy
Back when i was in uni i was buying all my jap denim tagged at 28in, not anymore. I probably could have gotten away with buying these in a 30 or but i was fatter last year when i picked them up.

>>17585085
So far so good, just pulled them out of the wash, nice leg twist. Tossed a nice thick coating of leather grease over the patch and hung it over the box fan to dry, i will wipe the excess leather protectant off later but i find a thin layer a few houra before washing and a thick layer before drying keeps the leatherbin decent shape. My biggest complaint about one wash denim from the jap brands is that the patches are crispy half the time when you get them.

>>17585153
>The length is shortening a bit too, which is nice because I was worried I didn’t ask them to get hemmed enough.
Yeah its good to err on the side of a little long when hemming because they do tend to shrink up in length a bit like that.
The lighter denim works great for the jacket, really nails the authentic look, plus it's nice to have some color contrast when you go full Canadian tuxedo.
Pic related is from an ebay listing for a mostly unworn 50s type 2. There are differences cause of the lighting but i think you can still see how close they are.

>>17585120
>hand picked in Zimbabwe
based

>>17585085
>washing your raw dong in hopes of shrinking it an inch or two

>>17585208
That looks like a nice cropped fit. I hate that they make shit so long and skinny now

>>17585247
>That looks like a nice cropped fit.
Im torn on the vintage jacket crop, i have to wear it with short tshirts or long ones and tuck them in.
Pic related is my late 60s type 3. Definitely easier to wear with a higher waisted pair of jeans then these.

>>17585258
high wasted jeans with tucked in shirt/cropped jacket makes you look way more put together than something longer

>>17585085
>>17585184
great to hear the dong shrinkage worked out for you anon, posts pics when they're ready, love a bit of leg twist.
the one wash burgus plus pair I got have a super crispy patch, never thought much of it but reckon a little polish would soften it up?
>>17585114
>>17585116
>>17585119
very nice. no stripes on any of the momotaro stuff? I guess they make lines without them?

hey for the guy that was looking for flares I saw these on ebay burgis plus $99
https://www.ebay.com/itm/403855616636?

>>17585875
Lol never mind, those were listed as new with tag, they clearly arent

>>17585611
>very nice. no stripes on any of the momotaro stuff? I guess they make lines without them?
Yeah they make three different styles. One with plain pockets, one with the stripes, and one with the peach logo like the front chest pocket on that jacket. I thought the stripes looked kinda tacky and I’m not a huge fan of their back pocket stitching

>>17585882
Interesting, I feel the same about the stripes but I really liked their wide leg cut when I tried it on. Might have to find out if they make them without it

>>17586297
>Might have to find out if they make them without it
Yeah take a look at their website. Only about 1/3 of the jeans they make have they stripes, they are called the "going to battle series"
I think you are missing out if you don't get them. They look fantastic and its a nicely understated detail as far as painted back pockets go.
https://momotaro-jeans.com/bottoms/jeans/wide-fit/classic-straight-jeans.html
Most of the classic straights they have either have blank back pockets or their stiched accurates which are pretty subtle and take about 10 seconds to pull out with a seam ripper if you don't like then.

>>17585114
>>17585116
Took some fit pics because fuck it. I like how they’re slim-ish and tapered without being super slim. They fit more relaxed than a pair of 501s I bought last year. Still a bit boxy and need to break in more thought.

>>17586523

Okay, so I wanting these indigo 501s someone recommended a LONG time ago on cultizm, but of course it's not in my waist size (33). So, is there an equivalent pair of pants or a better place to get these?

>>17586662
Maybe 3sixteen CT

>>17586698
They look great but the color is wrong. I already have jeans which look just like them.

Just ordered 4 pairs of raws (for the first time)
Let's hope at least one of them fits!

>>17586523
Fit looks good, the fabric will soften up an drape better with a week or two of wear

>>17586662
The wrangler 13mwz and 936den both have that light blue color, at least the raw ones do. I'm trying to remember who else has done a denim like that recently

>>17586662
>>17586976
naked and famous are doing this sakura sky colourway atm, I think it comes in most of their regular fits

these look really nice

>>17587010
Powerful streaks

>>17587010
god i love slub

Bought myself kapital raw denim and the waist is so tight when I first wore them. What’s the best way to break them.

>>17587010
wow
so pretty

i'm starting to regret the correctly sized momotaros i bought since they have now stretched a lot after a month. a soak did nothing. extremely tempted to do a quick hot water wash now...

>>17587368
Sanforized or undanforized? What cut?

>>17587368
opposite for me actually, i was hoping for more stretch. Maybe i just got fatter.

Quick fit pic of the bob dongs, these boys are high waisted, also i will probably cuff them a bit.
1 size smaller would be ideal but they fit. I'm thinking i will give them a hot wash before i start wearing them just to see if i can get another half an inch out of the waist.
Loving the denim, it feels great, nice vintage blue color

>>17574639
Are Diesel jeans out of style or has the quality taken a nose dive since they stopped being made in Italy? I have noticed the prices are crashing and they go for 50% off the prices they used to.

>>17588191
I wasn't impressed with their quality 15 years ago, i doubt they have gotten any better since then.
Denim is so competitive these days, you can get made in usa tellason standards in slim or straight for $99. You can get preorders of Japanese made jeans for $100 in a few different cuts
https://www.atriumsf.com/kojima_genes_15oz_selvedge.html
Deisel was bug because thwy were making stylish cuts when everything at the department store was wide straight leg. Now they just can't compete especially at the $200-$400 preicepoint i see on their website. There are dozens of made in usa brands doing really nice stuff at that pricepoint.
https://kato-brand.com/collections/jeans

>>17578934
I hear they’re a solid denim but that back pocket decoration reminds me too much of mid 00’s rappers

>>17579101
Those are interesting jeans. Also an interesting cock, it printed through denim, that man had some meat.

I am a normie and not into raw denim, but brought an Evisu denim jacket because I loved the look.

Thoughts? Styling tips?

>>17589012
Evisu rules
>styling tips
Its a jacket, wear it when its chilly
If you wear it with jeans make sure they arent both the same shade of blue. You want some contrast. Otherwise it's a pretty versatile piece you can wear pretty easily

>>17574639
Find some local outfit to do custom at the same prices.

https://railcarfinegoods.com

>>17589409
Railcar has some pretty nice offerings. They don't really act as a 1:1 substitute to some of the Japanese offerings, railcar doesn't really focus on recreating the vintage construction details. If you don't care about that stuff fair enough, i get the impression most people these days are more interested in the denim then autistic repro detailing.
Brave star also has good prices for domestic sewn jeans.

>>17588182
looks goood anon

>>17590264
I have been to the store and they never have anything good on stock, especially Japanese made shirts.

>>17590264
I really get a kick out of sugar canes gimmic being that they make some of their more premium models in the US. Its funny.
I really want to find a nice broken twill wrangler repro. Ive been considering just buying some deadstock 13mwz, you can find the made in mexico with usa denim models pretty easily for $40-$50.

I feel like Samurai jeans are the perfect slubby jeans. Not TOO slubby, just the right amount

>>17590695
Samurai jeans have beautiful denim and fantastic detailing. They go above and beyond with stuff like their name and logo woven into the pocket bags fabric.
I really like their denim, i just wish they did more lower ounce stuff, i think 14-16 oz is the sweet spot for me.
Samurai nails the overall feel and texture of denim without two much emphasis on any one characteristic.
Pure blue japan has powerful slub without getting into the dramatic "king of all slub master 420" denim you see sometimes.

>>17590719
Agreed. I bought my 21 oz S520s last year (pic related) and was blown away at the amount of detail they put into the smallest things such as the weaving of the pocket fabric and the japanese symbols engraved into the buttons and back pocket pins.

Are raw jeans supposed to fit like shit?
I ordered 4 different pairs in different sizes and they all fit kind of shit

>>17590869
Yeah basically. They suck until the first wash/soak. Super uncomfortable, really rigid, and they stretch out to be really big even if they fit at first. But if you wear them a bit before washing, then they literally mould to your body and become the best fitting and most comfortable pants in your entire wardrobe.

Raw indigo wrangler cowboy cut

Probably 5 washes in two years

>>17590893
Nice, you don't see those get posted very often

>>17590925
They’re pretty great. Under $30 I think? No longer made in USA which sucks but still pretty high quality for the price. Might give them a wash soon to snug up the fit a little

>>17590938
Yeah, i need to try on a pair again, i was scared away by the highish rise years ago but i probably wouldn't bother me now

>>17590893
What's up with there not being any creases where the fades are

>>17590887
So you should buy them too small fitting with the assumption that they'll stretch out?

>>17590965
He washed them, probably like a normal person waahes clothes and not denim autism style

after wearing cheap skinny jeans my whole life, i bought a pear of sugarcane 1947s.
im a skinny guy, and i feel like they look ridiculous on me. is it just because im only used to seeing myself in skinny jeans? also, they're very 'flat', do i need to wash them first or something? and im guessing you need a belt for these types of jean to make them sit on your waist properly.

>>17591009
Are they raw or one wash? Also post a fit pic and i can tell you if they fit right or not.
If they are raw, turn them inside out, toss them in the washer without detergent, no spin cycle, pull em out, turn em back so the blue is on the outside and hang them to dry in your shower.
If they are one wash just wear them for a week and the denim will soften up and drape more normally.
Good choice for jeans btw

>>17590998
There's creases, they're just not where the fades are

Also >should probably wash them soon

(Not raw)

I forgot how long it takes to break in raws. I have a 9 year old pair and just got a new one this January and it feels like I'm making zero progress on them despite wearing them almost daily.

>>17590869
They come with measurements and suggestions usually

>>17590869
What jeans? Do they fit in the waist? Can you elaborate on how they fit like shit or post pics? Are they raw raw as in they need to be shrank or are the preshrunk/sanforized/one wash?

>>17590869

You're supposed to get them tailored after the first wash

lol getting jeans tailored

>>17591139
>not having everything except basics tailored

I can smell the EBT card in your wallet.

>>17591141
The only thing you need to do with jeans is get them hemmed. Anything else can be solved by buing jeans that are cut well in the first place.

>>17591145
>get them hemmed

Which is getting them tailored.

>>17591135
>What jeans?
C17
>Do they fit in the waist?
Some do, some dont
>Can you elaborate on how they fit like shit or post pics?
Main thing is that the crotch seems to hang very low and in general have excess fabric and baginess everywhere
>Are they raw raw as in they need to be shrank or are the preshrunk/sanforized/one wash?
I have some of both types

>>17591181
Do they fit like pic related?
Their cuts just seem weird honestly, they are going for a specific kind of fit.
If the crotch is hanging low you need to pull them up so they fit higher on your waist, you will probably need a smaller size for them to stay up like that.

I've worn my $270 raw jeans to work at least five times and no one has complimented me

>>17578388
Is that what you divorced over?

washed all my jeans. feeling guilty, but it needed to be done. Now i need a new pair of crisp raws to feel normal again...

i dont have a problem you have a problem

>>17591217
I don't know, I can't really see properly from behind, but I assume it's something like that
I did try pulling them up, however for the crotch to look normal I had to pull them almost to the belly button - that seems a bit high?

>>17590984
Bit of a late response, sorry, but no. The cotton stretches out until the first wash, then they fit amazingly. In my experience, which is limited (three pairs of raws), as long as you wear them heaps before your first wash, jeans that fit decently on day 1 will fit really well after the first wash.

>>17591313
What were you expecting, honestly? This is an extremely niche hobby. Apart from a brief popularity in the 2000s amongst fashion followers (already a niche hobby), raw denim has had a very small following.

>>17591658
>for the croch to fit normally i had to pull them almost up to my bellybutton
Yup, that's high rise jeans, probably not what you are looking for, it's a pretty weird feeling if you arent used to it.
Hit up one of the stores in the uk that sell naked and famous or unbranded brand and try something from them. I think you will have better luck, try the weird guy cut.

what's the perfect middleweight pair? i'm talking about the 14-16 oz range.

i've been eyeing iron hearts but it seems that everyone likes the 21 oz version. are their lighter weight jeans still good? or are other brands better at that range.

>>17591802
>what's the perfect middleweight pair? i'm talking about the 14-16 oz range.
Momotaro if you want smooth comfortable but still interesting denim made with high quality cotton.
Pure blue japan if you want interesting slubby denim without going too crazy.
Really i would strongly suggest momotaro. Iron heart is all about super thick super heavy duty denim but the 20+ oz stuff is really their specialty.
Honorable mentions to warehouse, eternal, Studio D'Artisan, samurai (they still occasionally make stuff in the 16oz range) and pure blue japan

>>17590893
wrangler cowboy cut 13mwz rigid is the most underrated jean among raw denim

>>17591783
I was about to cope some naked and famous weird guy on sale alongside the c17 but it went out of stock before I did
>>17591766
I see. I guess I'd better return all these then

>>17591924
*cop
though I will have to do some coping as well

>2011+12
>purchasing raws made outside of japan
ishygddt. why buy non-jap when japanese denim exists in this world?

>>17591968
I would go further then that, there are 6 major denim mills in japan that use antique looms, only 3 of them actually matter.

>>17574639
1. Are black 501s good?

2. What is the maximum size you can wear before being a fat fuck? I'm a 34 but want to come down to a 32.

>>17591387
Kek I found it among the clothes she "packed" for me when I moved out.

I think I'm just going to have to wash em once a week until they're so faded the ironing line's no longer visible.

>>17591968
>>17591973
What about the White Oak denim mill levi's uses?

>>17592257
White Oak closed their doors a few years ago at least on the USA plant, the company thwy were owned by has overseas production as well but that's not white oak denim. In terms of heritage they were THE only supplier of denim for levis from sometime in the 40s untill levis offshored production. So they were about as authentic as you could get, using the same looms that were making leavis jeans all those years ago. There is still a decent amount of deadstock white oak denim kicking around.
Anyways some guys got together when white oak closed and bought the antique looms and they now make denim unver the name vidalia mills. Their first couple batches were kind of sketchy quality wise but hopefully they will get better.
White oak did good work and it was a way to buy all usa jeans but in terms of creative compositions textures etc i don't think they really compete with the better Japanese mills. Its also worth mentioning that white oak made a lot of denim on modern wide looms, like the $99 jeans that tellason offers, decent denim but it's not going to have the irregularities that make the selvage antique loom stuff interesting to denimheads.

>>17592291
I keep running across 501's with this exact tag at thrift but they want $15 each. Are they worth picking up or could they be fakes? They don't look that old.

is organic cotton good in jeans ? it sounds like buzz word for shitty quality jeans

>>17592379
They arent old, they are modern productions. Probably from the levis premium line. Buy em if they fit you, you arent going to make any money selling them on ebay from Lithuania

>>17592407
It doesn't tell you much, i would rather know where its from and preferably how long the fibers are but most brands aren't going to tell you that. Organic doesn't mean bad cotton, but it is a meme buzzword, it just means they spray gallons of "organic" pesticides and herbicides on it instead of ones that aren't legally considered organic.

>>17592218
jeans get iron lines. Fuckin happens. Why do we talk about the jeans telling a story if we are gonna censor that story? Fade's a fade's a fade.

I bought a pair of Naked & Famous "Classic Slub" 13oz Weird Guy cut. They're ok, I don't really like the fit, looks nothing like the right in picrel, kind of tightish around the top, cant tell if they should sit high or lower comfortably, and the legs are a bit too loose? My favorite fitting pair of jeans are some VERY old/worn Calvin Klein black slim fit jeans. Levi 511's/510's are similar but not as well fitting as the Calvins. I want some "nicer" jeans but I hate spending on something that looks worse than a cheaper alternative. What would you guys recommend? I'm 5'11" ~145-150lbs, pretty skelly mode encroaching on otterboi

>>17592865
Because I don't care about telling a story? I think it looks dumb.

>>17592896
Tellason slim

>>17592896
Go with the super guy next time. They fit way better in the crotch despite being the slimmer fit. I have squattin legs and the fit in the thighs is perfect. I do go one size up though.

>>17593444
trips confirms. what weight and style do you like

>>17575813
>>17575809
>>17575772
>scam
how do you know if the site is legit? is denimio legit? we should probably have a general message with links or tips

>>17594550
>is denimio legit?
Yes
I shouldn't even have linked that scam website that's my fault. Everything they have listed is the same price, they resuse pictures, the website about us text is all in chinglish etc etc, its really obviously some scam site.
I don't think you will run into websites like that too often trying to buy Japanese jeans. I can't think of the last time i actually ran into a website like that.

>>17594550
>is denimio legit
yep

>>17593009
Well rip then dude. Almost all of my vintage have iron lines. Is what it is. Take a look around at people's jeans when you're out and see what kind of ugly or out of place fades people walk around with.

When i first got into raw i was still living at home and when i asked my gran to wash my blue jeans inside out if she was going to wash anything (which i asked her constantly to please not do) she had never even heard of that for blue jeans.
only black ones.

Can anyone id the jeans this dude is wearing in this post? Or at least a similar pair? You can't really see a whole lot but I'm not going to comment on something from 2015

https://www.heddels.com/2015/03/fade-day-red-wing-iron-ranger-hawthorne-5-years/

>>17595945
If i had to guess they are black x black samurai 710xx they made some last season, a couple sites still have them, but the recent ones are probably a havier denim then in your pic.

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>>17595964
Actually im not sure, the lack of leg twist makes me thing its sanforized denim, but with that much stacking its gotta be a 34 or 36 inch inseam, which i associate more with the Japanese brands then american ones, who usually offer a 30 or 32 inch inseam. Anyway the 710xx samurais, when worn tight, were popular for having that kinda fit back in the day before every brand was making raw skinny jeans. Nowadays you can probably achive that look with a number of different tight straight cuts, but i don't have any in mind in particular to suggest.

>>17595978
Whats the absolute cheapest option I can go for to achieve that fit

Japanese denim goes way overbudget but I might drop the money Jif its my safest option

>>17596116
Buy slim strait or slim taper jeans with a 34 or 36 inch inseam, with a 6.5 inch to maybe 7 inch opening, carefully arrange the stacking when you get them by wetting them and then carefully maniputing the stacking into place. Wear shoes or something to hold the jeans up at least untill the stacks set in place.
You probably want black x black or blue x blue or blue x black denim, something with a dyed warp and weft.
You can find several article and rebbit posts about it, if you search raw denim stacking. Just read about how people get them to set like that a bunch and then pick a pair with the right sized leg opening. I think naked and famous offers 34inch inseams so you can probably make it work with that. Brave star denim also has some cheap slim offerings if you don't mind ordering ahead.

>>17574639
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