/fa/ - Fashion

How the mighty have fallen

>>17572367

Don't let the japanese and chinese filth enter your life.
Remain swiss and pure, brother.

>>17572798
>The All-man Man's watch
>One of the two men on the poster has a double chin
It's like they KNEW where America was headed even 50 years ago.

>>17572784
They are like a slightly worse version of the corresponding casio. The build quality is slightly worse, they easily get scratched, and there is some dodgy milling work (especially on the back of the case).

The only really serious issue I've had is that the strap it came with was slightly bent during shipping (it came with it on for some reason). It keeps the time as normal and does what it's supposed to.

>>17572808
Indian fakes killed Oris. Switzerland should make punitive raid all over the subcontinent.

>>17572808

the big crown is honestly a great design

Your shitters don’t even glow

>>17572844
fucking poser

>>17572838
Except that they should've made the date hand a darker color.

Where does Seiko source its parts?
I'm currently building a turtle (have a legit one already) and got a case from the chinks. I swear its the exact same case with the exact same finishing.

>>17572878
depends on which models you’re talking about but in general the bulk of the parts are sourced from China and assembled in South East Asia.

there’s a few lines that are assembled in Japan but even those will be mostly of Chinese produced parts. Grand Seiko is obv a different story.

>>17572882
>Grand Seiko is obv a different story.

Even Grand Seiko parts will be made in China and simply finished in Japan. Have the slave labor in China stamp out the case blanks, manufacture the straps/bracelets, etc.

>>17572882
Grand Seiko is clearly cutting corners too. Don't trust them.

>>17572879
Your dad's watch is too big on you.

>>17572891
how does a camera lens work?

>>17572882
>the bulk of the parts are sourced from China
So it's entirely possible that the case I bought could have been made in the same factory as original parts?

>>17572895
Your father is going to be so mad at you for wearing his watches! If your mother were sober she'd tell you how mad your dad is going to be when he returns in 2 weeks!

>>17572901
i see you’ve changed your complaint - surely it couldn’t be my watch!
pretty sad really…

>>17572895
>how does a camera lens work?
You clearly don't know, otherwise you wouldn't be spamming pics where it looks like you're wearing a Frisbee on your wrist.

>>17572904
Show the receipt, or box, or anything.

>>17572901
This is clearly not going like he imagined it would.

>Oh boy, when /wt/ gets a pic of my IWC they're going to be so jealous
>Huh...no one's responding at all...

>>17572879
>those tragically chopped numerals at 12 and 6.

Ah well, at least IWC ADs offer ridiculous discounts .

A lot of autistic screeching going on in this thread from people who could never afford a proper watch.

>>17572909
Its the same kid that goes to the cartier or whatever jewlry store, takes a dozen photos with the salesperson clearly irritated in the background, buys nothing, then posts them on /wt/. Sometimes you have to point out they're posting the same 4 pics for weeks at a time. It plants the seed within their own minds they're incredible losers and caught in a lie. I eat ham.

>>17572916
>a proper watch.
please tell me you're not implying an IWC counts as "proper".

Ok, list update:
(Luxury watches):
Lawyeranon
Omegadrunk
Vintage Heueranon
JLC Anon
Speedmaster X33
Lange1 anon
Nobully tranny
GaySexko anon
Point and golf anon
White ceramic anon
Polar entry level anon
Blackshield sonic anon
No date sub anon
Reverso anon
Seamaster anon
Two Speedmasters anon
Two of each anon
Green Seamaster anon
Three watch collection anon
Piaget Altiplano anon
Seamaster 300 anon
Panerai anon
IWC Portugieser Chrono anon

No luxury, but honorific mention:
Hamilton anon
Should I tuck my shirt anon
Mühle anon
Vintage Seiko anon
Blue Celadon anon

This is just a fun list and, as you can see, it's not just for luxury owners anymore.
Anyone else?

>>17572925
You forgot yourself
>Faggot anon

>>17572908
>>17572909
>>17572911
>>17572918
>>17572924
>>17572925
you guys spend all your time here complaining that it’s boring because nobody posts an interesting watch. maybe with some self-reflection you’ll figure out why… sad!

>>17572925
you should add junghans anon to the honorable mention category

>>17572929
Dude, I just added you to the list, I'm not mocking you...

>>17572929
He's leaving?

>>17572929
Its not an interesting watch, you sound like a fag and your shits retarded.

Vintage Seiko Anon posts good shit, everything else made today isn't very interesting.

>>17572925
The aqua terra anon from the past few days seems new.

>>17572932
oops, didn’t mean to tag you - my bad
carry on

>>17572931
Thanks, I will.

>>17572934
Post your watch anon.

>>17572932
I'm more interested in knowing who you are.

You refuse to call Fat Mortadello by his real name, but you also seem to think "Two of each" owns luxury watches...

>>17572938
We did this last thread. I call your IWC posted 20 times a day boring, you demanded I post something of my own so you can try to ridicule it, I point out I've posted my watch in nearly every thread to and you couldn't spot it. Take the L and move on.

>>17572939
no insults = positive contribution to the community
few

>>17572933
that was the image I planned on using when mortadello announced that he got aids on his trip to africa

>>17572941
There's nothing positive about trying to turn an ANONYMOUS board into reddit.
There's already too many posters who use the same five pics of their watch as a de facto user ID.

>>17572944
Reminder that if it's the same pics used over and over again as a means to identify the user it's avatarposting and against the rules, so you can report it.

huh
not much to talk about now that iwc anon is gone

>>17572958
>not much to talk about now that iwc anon is gone
That's OK, anon. /fa/ is a slow board.

>>17572939
I just like to treat people fairly nice, something to do with being raised right, I guess.

>>17572958
discuss this.

(the fingers move)
(at 12 o’clock it rocks out)

>>17572970
Your mom's boyfriend was a good man.

>>17572978
>No middle finger
Terribly wasted opportunity by François Paul.

There’s a MASSIVE difference between the way the anons who have near encyclopedic knowledge of watches behave vs. those who very clearly either don’t own any or just randomly hate people who buy expensive watches.

>>17572925
>>17572970
I appreciate your effort, list anon. Go on.

>>17572985
yeah this place fucking sucks
it scares off anyone that has ANYTHING interesting to say, keeping it a perpetual cesspit no matter how many interesting people stop by.

>>17572985
>There’s a MASSIVE difference between the way the anons who have near encyclopedic knowledge of watches behave vs. those who very clearly either don’t own any or just randomly hate people who buy expensive watches.
...or, to be fair, those who buy an expensive watch and expect to be respected based on that and nothing else.

>>17572983
if it means anything, the 4 and 12 o’clock gestures would be offensive in greece. it’s called the moutza and corna

>>17572993
>it’s called the moutza and corna
What does those gesture mean in Greece?

>>17572994
something about getting slapped in the face in public or something

>>17572994
The mountza (all five fingers, splayed out) is like "In your face". You flash it in someone's face, the closer the better.
The corna is not the 12 o'clock >>17572978 The corna is the "metal horns" and accuses the recipient of being a cuckold when the fingers are pointed at someone.

The gesture at 12 is more like a Hawaiian shaka.

>>17572998
>The gesture at 12 is more like a Hawaiian shaka.
Again, what's that?

>>17572925
>Vintage Heueranon
I am remembered

>>17573006
It basically just means "take it easy" or "hang loose".

>>17573007
You never fucking went left. But congrats on being a celebrity, I guess.
Keep avatarfagging with the same 5 pics of your watches, though.

>>17573011
Besides yesterday I haven't been here in months. Here's a fresh Chronosport picture, just for you

Is it retarded to insure your watches? Couple hundred dollars a year and peace of mind around monkeys and other subhumans

Anything similar to this for 3k or under? Don't particularly care for the moonphase. Also, are there any good Aussie brands or is it all chinkshit/imports?

>>17573086
Insurance is for catastrophic loss, not your forgetfulness/inability to look after your shit. Wouldn't expect a /wt/ retard to understand that though.

>>17573092
Catastrophic loss ie niggers stealing it off my wrist or out of my house yes. Not for physical damage.

>>17573086
it’s worth it if you’re actively in situations where it could get stolen or lost, i.e. if you travel abroad and such

some life insurance policies cover property loss but only to a certain amount. jewelry insurance will often cover the full cost.

Which is a better size for the Rolex datejust the 36 or 41?. What are the waiting times like for the date just models in general?

Rolex is a little stock

>>17573132
41mm for male, 36mm for females and trannies

>>17572895
>le bicep only workout man.
Those arms are disgusting

>>17573158
what’s with all the weird cope I wonder?

>>17573088
theres alot of cheap soviet watches on ebay with that exact colorscheme

>>17572939
>seem to think "Two of each" owns luxury watches
Didn't he owns 2 Gay Sexko?

>>17572789
Asking again, as the other thread died too soon after posting.
Suggest a watch for me pls
> Your budget
Under 500 EUR
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
Diver
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
Preferably automatic
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
A simple classic look like picrel and preferably being made in Japan/Switzerland/Germany, not China
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
Doesn't matter if I can swap it out, but a metal strap is preferred
> Wrist size or desired watch size
On the smaller side, 38-40mm

So far I had a Citizen NB6021 and Orient Kamasu suggested, the former being a little too expensive (unless someone knows where to get them with a big discount in Europe) and the latter being a little too Chinese. So looking for more suggestions. Is the Seiko Turtle any good?

>>17573295
Helson Diver

Brushed 316L surgical stainless steel - Ø 38 mm - height 12 mm - lug distance 20 mm
--weight 183g on bracelet
--Screwed crown with side protection
--Sapphire crystal: 2.7 mm thick - inside AR coated
--Bezel with sapphire inlay
--Water resistance: 300m/1000 ft
--Dial, hands and bezel coated with swiss SuperLuminova
Price: 599 usd (a bit more, but worth it)
--Bracelet: Comfortable 20 mm stainless steel bracelet with removable screwed end links, ratcheting clasp; 20x20mm CUDA rubber strap

--Movement: 24 Jewel Japanese Miyota 9015 automatic

>>17573132
36
The waiting list depends on your AD, but for a smooth bezel DJ they're not that long (a few weeks).

>>17572895
Nice watch and all, but you are overdoing with the same photos spam this last week. And do some forearm workouts

>>17572900
It's perfectly possible. A good thing to check is the bezel, chinks tend to go for a different retaining spring design while most real seikos use a gasket. But this is mainly on the budget cases, you can find what is absolutely factory seconds for some of the higher end cases if you're willing to pay a couple of hundred bucks for a case for a watch that costs a grand.

>>17573303
>46mm lug to lug
Lol. Lmao, even. That's one heavy watch too, for 38mm. I'm guessing most of it is in the bracelet.

>>17573295
Kamasu is made in china? Also, try finding used certina ds action, or just go quartz action ds

>>17573351
>he likes flimsy little lightweight watches

>>17571806
Thoughts?

>>17573351
Do you have little girly arms? Wouldn't you prefer this instead?

>>17573356
>Thoughts?
You don't have any.

Im new to the watch game and would like to buy my first watch. I like blue dials most and Presage collection from Seiko looks good (budget under 500$). I was looking at model SRPE19J1. Good option?

>>17573369
Decent option. Not bad at all.

>>17573369
Unironically yes. But I would buy a blue smoky kamasu and beige bambino to cover diver/dress needs for almost the same price.

>>17573355
Yeah, I do. No point using 2mm steel everywhere when 1mm will do. I'm okay with a slightly higher chance of it breaking if I grip the bracelet with both hands and yank them apart as hard as I can, because I don't do that to begin with.

>>17573366
I do have little girly arms, but if he's looking for 38/40mm, he probably has little girly arms too. If you're willing to go up to 46mm lug to lug, why not get a 42mm seiko that will look better proportioned with those lugs. Personally, I don't go over 44mm.

>>17573303
That's nice, but a little too expensive and too big
>>17573354
Most likely, yeah. They don't explicitly say so, but discussions on watch forums suggest they do

>>17573421
Okay then. Still, kamasu and kamasu 2 are great watches ans puncg above their weighclass, maybe you should recondider the complete non chink assembly policy. But offcourse , suit yourself.

>>17572887
not true

>>17572934
Thanks!

Little 34mm Timex my Dad have me ~7 or so years ago. It was the watch he wore to his wedding. It's not a watch I would have bought myself but it's nice enough and I don't wear dress watches often anyway so it's the only one I have for now. It keeps good time considering its age and the fact that neither of us have ever had it serviced

>>17573435
Cool. Reminds me of this.

>>17573435
Neat. Should find a watchmaker to get it serviced.

Any reccs for a really cheap but nice looking office watch? I'm indifferent about the brand, it'll probably get some scrapes from my desk or doorways.

> Your budget
$100 max
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
Analog preferred
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
Quartz or automatic
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
Nothing but the time would be nice, but a date window isn't a deal breaker
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
Doesn't matter too much, I'd just change it if I don't like it.
> Wrist size or desired watch size
Under 40mm would be best.

>>17573426
Yeah I get that but I'm kind of in the middle of pivoting all my /fa/ stuff away from third-world sweatshops and don't really want to compromise on that, despite it obviously being a good deal

>>17573442
Casio EFV-110D

>>17573457
>>17573442

>>17573459
I like it. Where can I find one? Amazon doesn't have them anymore and eBay doesn't seem to either (well it has some, but they're from CasioStore and they only has 100 sales, so a little suspicious).

>>17573448
>pivoting all my /fa/ stuff away from third-world sweatshop

you wont get a watch for under 500 with the specs you want. you said you were interested in a turtle but Seikos are also produced in third world asian weatshops. you get way more quality from a $250 Orient than a $500 Seiko. Also both these companies are owned by the same corporation

>>17573463
Where exactly do you live in Europe?
Why do Europeans never specify the country they are from?

>>17573463
they seem to still have a blue one at Amazon. one piece remaining

>>17573369
>Hardlex
lmao fucking Seikos

>>17573463
https://www.irisimo.com/men-s-watches/casio?sort=lowprice&offset=64

>>17573469
Just get a crystal press and swap it out in 5 minutes. It's like a 30 dollar job, and that's including the price of the crystal.

>>17573440
I should yeah. I'd like to do a full clean of it as well but wouldn't know where to begin. I should at least get some polywatch for the crystal

>>17573475
Just get some rubbing alcohol and a q-tip.

>crave certian watch
>save up the money
>get watch
>wear it for a week
>get back to wearing my Seiko sxk again

Why am I like this? Bought a Tudor few weeks ago and not even wearing it even though I felt so strongly for months before getting it. Before the Tudor it was a Speedmaster

(If you reply anything related to Rolex to my question then your mother will die in her sleep tonight)

>>17573480
It's because you bought a Tudor and an Omega, you may as well have bought a fake watch. You know where to spend your money in future.

>>17572789
What does /wt/ think of hybrid smartwatches
I don't want a fitness tracker or a smartwatch but having data on my heartrate and such does sound nice

Bonus question, why the fuck aren't webp images allowed yet

>>17573480
because consooming won't bring you happiness

>>17573480
You need to go higher. Think Swiss Holy Trinity. (PP, VC, AP)

>>17573480
You're just a consoomer.

You should invest this autism more productively. I feel like a lot of modern men have lost out on the joy of creating things with their own two hands, products that should've been repaired were thrown out at the first sign of trouble and replaced with a cheap alternative because nobody wants to spend a few hours troubleshooting.

Instead of coveting an item and saving money for it, consider how you can make your own version for a fraction of the cost and a bit of personal investment. Every project you complete adds more skills, more tools, and more joy to your life.

>>17573484
I think they're a massive gimmick. Charging a watch is just unacceptable, I despise having to plug my phone in every week and I never take my watches off unless I'm taking a shower. You can buy heart rate monitors, I've got one that cost me 20 bucks and has a 16 hour battery life, measures at a far higher rate than most watches, and is more accurate because it goes higher up my arm. I never use it, it's a waste of time because you can tell what your heart rate is anyway by your breathing. If it feels easy, you're not pushing enough.

>>17573478
Does that work for the crystal? Or just general cleaning

>Get Turtle with 4R36
>Seiko claims +45 / -35 seconds per day
>Get mad when it's -30 seconds per day

I'm too autistic about the water resistance to open it up and regulate it myself. Does it damage the screw down crown gaskets to set the time every day?

>>17573497
All gaskets will degrade with time. Just take the back off and nudge the regulator a bit with a toothpick, as long as you tighten the back to a reasonable level, no moisture is getting in.

>>17573495
Just cleaning. You can use some toothpastes for some types of watch crystal, but I didn't have much luck on deeper scratches.

>look up amazon review on Orient Bambino
>one guy got mad about the strap size and accused Orient of making childrens watches
>uploads a picture to demonstrate
>morbidly obese fuck with a morbidly obese wrist

Fat people are hilarious

>>17573501
>Just take the back off and nudge the regulator a bit with a toothpick

Should I lubricate the back gasket?

>>17573504
Lmao, hate fat fucks.

>>17573506
You can, but if you've bought the watch recently it's still pretty lubed from the factory.

>>17573506
How do I lubricate a gasket? Not the same anon btw

So, after some years this watch is banged up and the bevels have become softer and it actually looks much better to me now. A nice extra is I don't worry about scratching or damaging it anymore.

>>17573512
A bit of silicone oil or grease on a couple of fingers, then just rub it on your palm with the gasket. You don't need much, all it does is stick the gasket to the case a bit so when you're tightening it on the gasket doesn't move as much.

>>17573504
>am I a tub of lard?
>no, it is the strap manufacturer who is wrong!

>Love F.P. Journe
>Search the cheapest Journe available
>It's a used quartz alarm CLOCK
>It's 5K
>AN ORDINARY QUARTZ ALARM CLOCK.
>USED!!
>FOR FUCKING FIVE THOUSANDS DOLLARS
W.T.F.

I hate being poor

>>17573533
>love one of the most expensive watch brands out there, mostly famous for being extremely expensive
>search for their cheapest watch
>it's.... le expensive???
AHHH HOW UNFATHOMABLE, I'M GOING INSAAAAANE

>>17573513
great watch

>>17573549
Thanks, it is. Have worn this bitch basically like a gshock since 2016 and this is how good the bracelet still is.

>>17573513
retard

>>17573448
Learn to love peasant labor. Get yourself some handmade boots from Indonesia.
Anyway casio oceanus, casios flagship quartz brand. Cases are made in the same factory in japn that makes them from grand seiko, watches are assembled in japan in casios high end jdm facility.
Entry level models start around $450 at least that's what it is on Amazon right now
Watches fit smaller then the listed measurements, casio measures differently then the rest of the industry
OCW-S100-1AJF
OCW-T200S-7AJF
OCW-T200S-3AJF
Sets from the atomic clock radio signal, accurate quartz movment, sapphire crystal etc etc

>>17573582
I have come close to buying one of these many times. Stunning watches. I do prefer the gen 2 ones though

Got a couple Islander watches, they're such fucking good beaters. I don't get why more people don't talk about them.

>>17573547
Did you even read the post you're bitching about?

>>17573513
Not a fan of having a beater watch? That looks fucked up bro. Nice watch tho
>>17573480
Post skx

Saw this general a few days ago and realized i never actually wore a real watch ever in my life aside from those little kids tier watches that you could get for cheap.
Went to the mall yesterday and most watches were thousands of dollars and I don't really understand why in the fuck do they cost so much.

>>17573513
Is there any particular reason you got all steel rather than gilt/2 tone? No offense, just wondering if it was a matter of personal taste, practicality for wearing often, it wasn't available or saving the money. Some of the gilt Tudors look so fuckin good.

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>>17573614
The really nice watches are automatic/mechanical, meaning they don't take batteries and are powered by a spring being wound either by manually winding or by a weighted rotor swinging around on the inside of the watch while you're wearing it. That spring physically turns a bunch of gears that do all of the operations of the watch, and machining and assembling all of the ludicrously small pieces and making sure they all coordinate to keep precise time is very difficult and expensive.

Cheaper quartz watches(that use batteries and electronics) are available and overall keep time better and more easily, but traditional clockwork is still desirable for some practical and sentimental purposes. They can last a long time, be passed down as heirlooms, and you'll never have to fuck with changing a battery when you pull it out to wear to a wedding after it sat in the drawer for an extended period of time.

>>17573614
All you need, don't listen to Rolexfags.

>>17573617
Getting a watch that costs thousands that has a gold capped bracelet like its 1975 is jut embarrassing

>>17573614
That's awesome! Congrats on your new Spiderman watch! It's always exciting to add a unique timepiece to your collection. Enjoy rocking your Spidey style on your wrist and swinging through time in superhero fashion. Keep on slinging those webs and making a statement with your wristwear. Stay stylish, and may your Spiderman watch always remind you that "with great power comes great responsibility"!

>>17573614
They're just a scam for retards, like most jewellery.

Look at that other retard who replied to you. Most automatics cost 200+ bucks to service every 5-10 years, while a battery costs 20 cents and provides orders of magnitude more accuracy.

>>17573624
>>17573619
This but without even the slightest bit of irony.

>>17573627
What's embarrassing about it, exactly?

>>17573629

Regarding your statement, while it's true that automatic watches may require periodic servicing every 5-10 years, the cost of servicing can vary depending on the brand and model. Some automatic watches may require more frequent servicing, while others may require less. On the other hand, battery-powered watches, such as quartz watches, generally do not require servicing as frequently, but they may not have the same level of mechanical complexity and craftsmanship as automatic watches.

Both automatic and battery-powered watches have their advantages and disadvantages, and the choice between them depends on personal preferences, style, and budget. Some watch enthusiasts appreciate the craftsmanship and mechanical intricacy of automatic watches, while others prefer the convenience and accuracy of quartz watches. Ultimately, it's important to choose a watch that fits your lifestyle and preferences.

>>17573629
Most people literally never get their automatic serviced. Unless there is an obvious problem caused by damage or wear, of course. The point isn't timekeeping anymore, that was already established. It's jewelry now. a $15k engagement ring wears the same as the $2 costume jewelry, but women still want the $15k ring for many sentimental and emotional reasons.

>>17573632
>Regarding your statement
What else would replying to his post be regarding? You don't have to announce that you're replying to someone in your reply, redditspacer.

>>17573497
I'm over the NH35 and its variants. If I'm buying something under a grand or so I'm going quartz as long as I can look at it before and make sure the seconds hand hits the markers.

>>17573634
Hey friend, let me share some thoughts on buying jewelry for sentimental reasons. Expensive jewelry doesn't always guarantee better quality or sentimental value. In fact, cheaper jewelry can be just as good! It's the emotional connection and memories that make jewelry special, regardless of the price tag. Plus, affordable jewelry is practical, versatile, budget-friendly, and may have ethical considerations. So why not consider cheaper options and prioritize the sentimental value over the cost? Your style and budget will thank you!

How doesn't the general watch community see that everything about this new version is wrong? I've been hearing mostly that the case is too sharp and uncomfortable to wear, as well as the bracelet, which are both KO criteria for the lasting appeal of a fucking tool watch. But leaving that aside because it might be lanklet bitches with paper skin.

The watch design is fucking garbage. They FURTHER reduced the BPH of a movement that was already down from the usual 8, to 6, now to 4 - fucking why? A co axial escapement that has no business being part of a manual wound moonwatch (homage)? Good fucking idea there, way to break the immersion. Next, they removed the magnetic shielding plate over the movement (because the new movement is less susceptible to magnetism) - granted, but the fucking thing supposedly going into space would REQUIRE that shield even with the new movement. So it's another deal breaker for a supposed true Moonwatch. Not that we are short of those. It has the dot over 90 - fine, who fucking cares, this is such a minor ever changing detail that it's impossible to say this or that version is correct, it's unnoticed by most people anyway.

But what really sets me off is the fucking ugly minute markers on the dial, which were reduced to represent the slower beats. Look at that fucking shit. This is borderline a Quartz watch at this point. It also looks shitty and cheap compared to the previous model with double the amount of markers. Next the stepped dial is fucking ugly. I don't care if the original one had a stepped dial, it was a design flaw at the time. A stepped dial breaks the markers which is a big fucking no no for a Chronograph. Also they made the dial pure black instead of dark charcoal which is another reason it looks less special. Any asswipe can make a black watch. The previous Moon was special. This is like a fucking Chinese replica!

I'm keeping my 311 forever. THAT will become valuable (and the 3570).

>>17573632
I like both. Great watches in both worlds here.

>>17573635
I apologize if my response came across as rude. When I said "regarding your last post," I was simply trying to address the specific topic or point that you had previously mentioned. It was not my intention to offend or disrespect you in any way. If my words were interpreted differently, I apologize for any misunderstanding. Please let me know if there's anything else you'd like to discuss or if there's a better way I can address your comments. Thank you for your understanding.

>>17573640
>double the price
>make the movement worse
"Swiss" watchmaking in a nutshell

>>17573617
>man bangs his watch up like a Gshock
>"why not gilt/2 tone?"
He may have a tool watch but you are the tool

>>17573634
Women is the operative word here. They want diamonds because of a very successful advertising campaign to make fairly useless rocks into a status symbol.

Anybody see one of these in person yet? I'm a sucker for sunburst blue and want to know if it holds up for real.

>>17573640
The kinds of people retarded enough to buy a fucking moonwatch are the kinds of people who wouldn't care about any of that. All they care about is that it says Omega on the dial.

>>17573639
I agree, but my fiancé would have caned me if I proposed to her with a $200 engagement ring. More than just the emotional and sentimental feelings for the person giving the gift or the circumstances of purchasing the item IS the emotional and sentimental impact of the cost or rarity of the item. Spending thousands on an item isn't just about the item itself, it also says that you were willing to sacrifice a lot of time and effort and resources to get that item, which can be worth as much or more than the item itself.

>>17573652
People who think this way about purchases are retarded, it's the mindset of a woman.

You can't reconcile it with the reality that there are millionaires out there who spend 10k on a watch like they're buying a morning coffee. The watch isn't worth any more to you because you spent more of your income as a percentage.

>>17573645
Wouldn't the tool thing to do be to buy a watch and never wear it? Any watch will get like that if you actually wear it. I wouldn't buy a watch at all if I was just going to put it in a dark safe for years.

>>17573652
>my fiancé would have caned me if I proposed to her with a $200 engagement ring
I usually send out probing questions to women to get a sense of whether they're like this. If a woman fell for de beer propaganda she's not wife material. Literally poor cattle mentality.

>>17573656
What they do has no impact on me. If some fuckwad with more money than God pays a harem of the most beautiful women from all over the world to eat peanut butter out of his asshole and he feels nothing about it, what the fuck does that have to do with me and how I enjoy things?

>>17573659
The real problem is it doesn't stop at diamonds, they're all slaves to brand garbage and need a new 2k Chanel bag every year because they saw a commercial.

>>17573662
Your insistence that sacrificing more for a watch makes it better is delusional. It's quite close to the mindset of people who gamble for jpegs in modern shitty video games.

If you could buy the exact same watch for 50 bucks, would it be any different?

>>17573659
It's not about the fucking ring. It's about the display of commitment and showing you're willing to put something on the line that shows you're not a worthless bitch that's going to back out on her. The fact that you didn't NEED to do that but wanted to do it anyway is the entire point.

>>17573666
>Your insistence that sacrificing more for a watch makes it better is delusional.
When the fuck did I say anything like that?
>If you could buy the exact same watch for 50 bucks, would it be any different?
That would never happen for the reasons we already discussed - it's really difficult and expensive to make high end watches.

>>17573662
Thats the point: you're saying your woman wants to put a financial hobble on you just to be sure she knows you're willing to bet serious money on something as stupid as an engagement ring or watch for her. But if you were a billionaire, that $120,000 ring wouldn't mean as much (financially) but she'd still lose her mind over you lighting money on fire like that.

>>17573656
>People who think this way about purchases are retarded, it's the mindset of a woman.

It really is. I have a redditmaster moonwatch and a Glashutte but my favorite watch is the one my sister gifted me when she was 14. She saved the money while babysitting. I don't know why she thought spending half her summers salary on a watch for me was a good idea but it's my most treasured watch.
If a fire broke out Id rather save that watch than the other two
Picrel is almost the same watch I have

>>17573666
This is exactly why I rock the Islanders. They're exactly as good as Rolex and there's no argument for why they aren't, and they're a fraction of a fraction of the cost.

>look i know the ring is a scam but you have to buy it anyway to because you just do okay?

>>17573625
>>17573629
the duality of men

>>17573671
>it's really difficult and expensive to make high end watches.
I mean, it isn't. You're told it is, sure, but that doesn't make it real. Let's say you go in a goodwill and find a 10k watch in the 5 dollar bin.

You would laugh if you knew the actual cost of a sapphire crystal. Or some basic case machining operations when you're putting out 10k units a week.

>>17573672
>you're saying your woman wants to put a financial hobble on you
Literally didn't say that. Please learn to read.
>>17573673
This dude also needs to read, he thinks he agrees with you but literally is making the same argument I made about why people like expensive gifts. Sister bout a gift that is special because she went out of her way and spent half a summer's wages on a gift. The exact value of half a summer's worth is irrelevant.

>>17573679
>You would laugh if you knew the actual cost of a sapphire crystal. Or some basic case machining operations when you're putting out 10k units a week.
Since you're the expert, why don't you explain it to me so I can laugh?

>>17573680
>Literally didn't say that. Please learn to read.
>my fiancé would have caned me if I proposed to her with a $200 engagement ring
What am I missing here? She'll refuse you if you "only" spend $200 on a ring so you're going to overspend on a shiny bauble just to prove you actually love her. Sure would have been nice to spend that money on something useful like a house, paying off debt, maybe saving for your future family? Nah, better get a gold circle and an overpriced shiny rock!

>>17573625
ok, that makes more sense, albeit i am not really sure why they would cost so fucking much still. i guess i can understand it costing up to a couple thousands bucks but i really don't understand how it can get to like 10 or 20k, especially when it has now jewelry attached to it.
>>17573626
CASIOs are the cheapest ones right? I'll probably get a digital one whenever i am employed again
>>17573628
oh man it was the coolest fucking watch, i don't have it anymore though, it has been decades since i had it.

>>17573682
Sure.

For an end user, you can get a sapphire crystal in any dimensions you'd want for about 15 bucks shipped to your door. For a case, you're looking at about 30, and that's with sapphire because they don't really sell them without all the parts.

Now imagine how much it must cost a company to purchase these things in bulk, or manufacture them in-house.

>>17573666
Yeah i know women like this, they are how terms like "the ol' ball and chain" came about

>>17573668
You know what's a commitment? Putting my entire financial future on the line, you know who gets raped in a divorce? It's not the woman, I can tell you that much. A $10k ring is nothing next to my total net worth, any woman with half a brain knows this which is why my match rate goes through the roof when I mention my job and the fact that I own property in my profile.

Talk about "the display" or "the gesture" what could be more a sign of ghetto mentality than thinking that it's a big romantic gesture to flush a stack of $100 bills down the toilet because a de beer commercial told you you're not a man if you don't do that, jesus christ you've been brainwashed

>>17573595
mostly because the only one talking about them is the owner of the brand trying to spam his stuff here

>>17573674
can you make one in white gold then pretty please?

Citizen & Casio > Seiko
Seiko is trying to position themselves as a high value brand which just doesn't work.
Last year while in Japan I had the chance to look at the Casio Oceanus. Those things are comparable to Grand Seiko quartz. The fact that they still produce $600 watches with hardlex shows how retarded people who buy Seikos are.
Seiko died with the SKX and SARB.

>>17573695
lmao he thinks women care about a job title and he thinks women are attracted to some pics of a random property.

>>17573673
Cool, i have the black one, great watch.

>>17573684
>What am I missing here? She'll refuse you if you "only" spend $200
I'll explain it again slowly for the fucking brainlets. I'll even redditspace it since that's apparently easier for you people.

An expensive gift is not special because of the money. It is expensive because of the relative commitment someone had to make to do it for you. If someone was willing to do a lot of work and spend a lot of time getting something for you when they didn't need to do that and they were probably thinking of you while doing those things, that means a lot. You didn't make them do it, they weren't obligated to do it, but they did it anyway because they wanted to.

A child saving up $200 to buy a gift for another child is, relatively, a huge undertaking. That was the precise stated reason for why a quartz mall watch is so special to that other poster. Yeah, NOW it's not worth a lot, but at the time it was huge.

For me right now at this stage in my life $200 is absolutely nothing to spend on a gift. I make that in my sleep, my fiancé and I spend $200 at a restaurant without thinking twice about it. I probably spent that on the food and drink we're making for dinner tonight. I'm not saying it to brag, it's just $200 just isn't a lot of money for a gainfully employed adult, relatively speaking. It's not that special for a gift. If I did buy her a $200 ring she'd probably wish I just took her to dinner. But $20k is a completely different matter altogether.

Furthermore, I already said this but you still don't seem to get it, your retarded jaded billionaire analogy actually makes my point. A strange billionaire giving you $20k just because he can would be weird more than anything else. Yeah, you'd obviously be happy because you got $20k, but you wouldn't feel anything for him, would you? If you felt anything it would probably be something along the lines of scared of what the repercussions of accepting that money would be, because there's probably some kind of a catch.

>>17573612
Anon, I....
>>17573617
There wasn't a two tone when it came out and even if there was I don't like the look of most two tone watches, it was also a gift. Also, Tudor's bracelets are plated/rolled gold so it'll wear off eventually.

>>17573689
That's cap.

>>17573714
I respect Seiko for one reason. They still provide movements to third parties at reasonable price points. I don't care about their watches, the styling has always been hit and miss and they haven't made a good watch since the 80s.

>>17573697
Marc posts here?

>>17573730
Those are literal prices I have paid for both of those products in the past month.

>>17573732
Yeah, if it wasn't for Seiko we wouldn't have great brands like Islander and Phoibos and Hemel.

>>17573717

>>17573689
A watch isn't just a bunch of components you order off of a website.

>>17573744
You're telling me you buy pre-built watches? Gross. I bet you use pre-built PCs too.

But seriously, it is. Even for the big companies, most of them don't even make their own movements. Most of them have another company do the bracelets. Often the cases are just made in china and shipped over for assembly.

>>17573726
>If someone was willing to do a lot of work and spend a lot of time getting something for you when they didn't need to
But you don't work hard. You've done nothing but humblebrag about how little $20k means to you and you make thousands of dollars in your sleep. You weren't "working hard" or putting in extra hours to make that money in the past, you're just going to spend what you have in the bank. You're defeating your own argument.

If your woman just has to know you're spending a lot of money on her, then she's not worth keeping. You chose a partner poorly.

>>17573756
The funny part is he even admits he knows she wouldn't stay with him if he spent 200 bucks on a ring. He defeats his own argument, which for some reason is now about "gifts" when he started by arguing that spending 10k on a watch for yourself is reasonable, but even then, he was obligated to buy a 20k ring. He didn't do it because he wanted to, he did it because he had to. So what's special about it?

>>17573756
It's not a partner at that point, it's just the wife from the "now I can get fat" meme. The woman thinks of the wedding as the finish line, and the man lacks the confidence to control the narrative. Whatever happens after is just accessorizing, they'll have some hellspawn kids that they can't control, kids who hate them, but whose goodwill they think they can buy off with a new car at sixteen and whatever future kids think is cool. Life on autopilot, a really shitty autopilot.

>continuing to willfully misinterpret posts like a true brainlet
Not even worth a >(you)

>>17573760
When the absolute fuck did anyone say that? Quote a post that says that.

>>17573767
Here you go:
>>17573652
>>my fiancé would have caned me if I proposed to her with a $200 engagement ring

Lost my dog today...
In times like these I'm glad my Islander #ISL-210 is on my side. The exquisite design of the dial, the highly polished case and the sapphire crytal help me forget my family dog. Remembering the affordable price of the luxurious #ISL-210 makes me completely forget about Ruffles. Now, instead of feeling bad, I feel blessed.
I will make sure to check out the various bracelet options provided by Long Isaland Watch!

>>17573763
It kindof is the finish line for many women. They just have to tough it out for a year or two and if they get truly sick of the husband she takes half his shit, sometimes in perpetuity. It is funny when guys in places like /wt/ try to humble brag about spending $20k on a watch because their net worth is so much higher than the rest of us plebs tries to flex that he's found a great woman because of it. Super. You've found someone to spend money for you and if you get tired of her you have to buy her out. Christ on a cracker what an arrangement!

>>17573771
I don't see the part in the quote that says anything you said in the previous post.

>>17573767
>>17573771

bro you just got obliterated

>>17573773
Look buddy, you're just mad you're not cool enough to spend months saving up for a Rolex. I'm sure his wife will let him buy one because she's got a 20k engagement ring.

>>17573772
What kind of stupid name for a dog is "ruffles"? Did you eat him by mistake?

>>17573773
Finally, we can all agree that getting married to women is worthless and we're much better off living alone and buying Islanders and other affordable microbrand watches.

>>17573776
I really didn't. At all. Making a glib joke about my fiance not being interested in a cheap ring doesn't mean she would leave me and doesn't even imply it.

>>17573777
Sir, I've already spent this months Rolex budget on my favorite onlyfans model. She sent me a gif of her winking, totally worth it.

>>17573772
I recommend their original bracelet designs, they even have universal ones. This pattern reminds me of fireworks!

>>17573788
It's okay, there's always something good on sale. The Islander GMTs are $400 off! That's almost half the price. You can't afford NOT to track 3 time zones with one watch. And the movement is Swiss! I honestly don't know how you beat that.

>>17573792
GMTs are actually moronic watches and I hate them. They combine the worst elements of diver watches, and add a hand that does nothing. Great.

>>17573797
>He doesn't know about window GMTs.

>>17573797
To most people, sure, but to people that frequently travel and/or often have to contact people in other time zones they can be really useful. I honestly wish there were more options for affordable daily watches with GMT movements but without the rotating bezel, because then your daily beater could be just a simple field watch looking thing and still be your daily beater if you need to get on a plane or randomly need to make a phone call to someone on the opposite side of the earth at certain times for some reason. Actually, there's a website I've been watching that's based in the UK that only does sales at specific times on specific Sundays, I guess to try to keep hype and scarcity high, but being in America it's kind of hard to remember what time it is there
>JUST ADD 5 RETARD
It would be that much easier if I just didn't have to think about it after looking up the time zone one time. Also my work happens to use 24 hour time for everything so when I'm not tracking another time zone it can still be useful to just at a glance see my own current 24 hour time.

>>17573813
>Also my work happens to use 24 hour time for everything so when I'm not tracking another time zone it can still be useful to just at a glance see my own current 24 hour time.
Are you too stupid to do the conversion in your head? I always think in terms of 24 hour time to begin with, years of using Windows with the superior 24 hour setting.

>>17573733
who else would talk about islanders all the time?

>>17573640
The fact you wrote that post alone made it worth it to make the watch that way. Am I on wus or what lmao

>>17573789
yeah, it should be intro for some kind of anniversary

>>17573821
People that like Islanders I guess? Why do we talk about any watch here all the time?

>>17573824
It should be a character in an X-Men animated series.

>>17573619
Thanks Mark, very cool

>>17573843
It's Marc.

>>17573813
I've never used military time and I think its kinda dumb for the vast majority, similarly its why I strongly dislike GMT. When have you ever looked at your watch and wondered if it was AM or PM, or just had to know what time it was on the other side of the country or planet.

I'd also hazard a guess if you're spending thousands on a plane ticket to different time zones, they assume you have thousands to spend on a watch too.

>>17573466
I've seen some Seiko Turtles in my price range that were made in Japan
Sure they might actually not be and it's just some kind of labelling loophole, but maybe not, who knows. Either chance is possible, unlike with something that's definitely chinkshit
>>17573582
I've checked out Oceanus before, don't remember if I saw any appealing divers, but the price goes up so much with the import duties and tax to my yuro country that it's just painful

>>17573849
i'm not that anon but i've worked remote for years and my team is distributed across multiple time zones, including some weird ones with half hour deltas.

being able to keep track of the most relevant ones is quite handy.

Where do I get decent quality Rolex clones?

I don't mean good enough to trick collectors or anything, just normies. The legends and finish just need to nice enough to not bother me.

>>17573849
>When have you ever looked at your watch and wondered if it was AM or PM, or just had to know what time it was on the other side of the country or planet.
Pretty often, honestly. Plenty of people have that need from time to time, especially business and sales people. Yeah, rubes on welfare that have never traveled beyond county lines since they were born and can't point to any other country on a map probably don't need it, and you could argue that's most people, but still. Most people would argue you can just look at your phone. If we go too far down that road we kind of start dismantling the idea of wearing a watch in the first place.

>>17573850
>Sure they might actually not be and it's just some kind of labelling loophole, but maybe not
The cases are stamped made in china on the inside.
Japans national origin labeling laws basically say that as long as the factory has Japanese nationals as shift supervisors it can be in china or singapore or wherever and they can call it made in japan.

>>17573857
Reddit

>>17573859
Is that true? That's insane.

>>17573513
Impressive. I salute you

>>17573868
It's the same for most countries. The Swiss masters basically only have to have the cases shipped to Switzerland for final assembly, all this shit is made in China because it's cheap.

>>17573582
>handmade boots from Indonesia
Midas? Are they really worth 500€? I find it hard to wrap my head around paying that much for southeast asian boots.

>>17573868
If you want a Japanese made watch (with at least some imported components) your choices are casio oceanus, mr-g gshocks, grand seiko, vintage seikos, and a handful of Japanese independent watchmakers. That's it, anything else you are just fooling yourself so you can feel like you are better than other people

>>17573873
https://www.stitchdown.com/buying-guides-and-reviews/indonesian-bootmakers-comprehensive-guide/
This article is kind of old
https://stridewise.com/best-indonesian-boots/
Basically a lot of them are made to order and do business entirely through Instagram, some have websites.
You can get nice boots made for less than $500, at least you could a year or two ago.

>>17573874
Not me, I buy Manhassets guilt free.

>>17573846
Thanks Marc, very cool

>>17572846
I need a cheap and small Casio like this with EL and a countdown timer.

Pic unrelated.

>>17573887
Thank you, now keep my name out of your mouth, please.

>>17573888
Just buy that one?

I'm kind of tempted to get a watch back engraved, but I probably won't bother. I don't even really know what I'd engrave on it, a picture of an animal or something. Plus I don't know anywhere that really does CNC engraving.

>>17573894
>Islanders

>>17573891
doesn't have a countdown timer

>>17573888
I don't think anyone makes an EL watch with a countdown timer. Theres a couple oddball digital watches with a countdown timer and they're far from popular for a reason.

>>17573812
This is a watch thread, i can't see a watch in this pic.

>>17573907
I've got a Timex datalink USB that technically has EL and a great countdown timer with presets and a digital crown, but the EL is the shitty timex indiglo shit you can barely see.

>>17573908
That's because you're deaf.

I'm in the market for a budget dress watch, and it's coming down to a Seiko tank, Seiko Negroni, and Bulova Precisionist (the one with the grey spiral dial). I have a 6.5" wrist.

>Seiko tank is the most elegant
>Negroni has a beautiful red dial
>Precisionist has an intriguing 3d dial and amazing sweep

What does effay think makes sense?

>>17573857
read the /r/reptime guide

>>17573927
I'm not going to reddit.

>>17573911
>Timex datalink USB
What that is is a pre-smartwatch smart watch. Sounds like you want an Apple smartwatch or Google smartwatch. I really don't think what you're looking for exists.

>>17573929
>Whaaa whaaa im too good to go to the r site to read a well written guide that answers my questions perfectly you have to spoon feed me instead so i can maintain my smug sense of superiority

>>17573929
>Imagine having any kind of pride while asking for a source of fakes.

>>17573941
It actually doesn't answer any questions other than telling you to go to other sites, which could be done here.

>>17573944
Imagine using quotes for the "imagine" meme

>>17573945
>It actually doesn't answer any questions
>other than telling you to go to other sites
So the question you asked?

>>17573929
I’m so pathetic and fragile that I can’t visit a website to read information and get what I want. So I’ll just do nothing.

Yeah that sounds like 4chan. Don’t bother showering either, some Reddit users take showers.

>>17573950
It honestly feels more like a honeypot to funnel everyone to the same consolidated reddit thread rather than just say "yeah, I used fakeasswatches.biz, pretty good service and fast shipping" or "whatever you do don't use bustedassrepros.net it's a scam." It's like you're trying to pull traffic a certain way to build a certain search history or drive people to click particular links.
>They need to protect the trusted dealers bro!
If you tell everyone who asks to go to the reddit isn't anyone involved in customs or law enforcement concerning fake watches going to go to the reddit first? You aren't protecting shit by not talking about the dealers.

>>17573969
>some Reddit users take showers.
No they don't. They're too busy crossposting activist memes and dilating.

>>17573984
Or you are just a stupid nigger and nobody here cares about poverty fakes and has a bunch of Chinese websites memorized

>its tying to shape traffic paterns to bla bla bla
Man living with autism must suck

>>17573992
It's pretty great actually, I tell people the retarded shit they do is retarded and makes no sense all day and all they can do is seethe because even though my comment and behavior isn't socially acceptable they know I'm right.

>>17573772
Rufus was probably a good boy.
rest in rip in peace

>>17573986
imagine being this angry and deranged
couldn’t be me

Reps need their own containment thread.

>>17573995
But you are just being a stupid nigger who refuses to read a faq and doing some autistic /pol/ brain bullshit.
Nobody is trying to protect dealers i don't know where you got that idea. Reddit links the different rep forums who have trusted vendor lists, then you can look at user feedback and comments for the different vendors. They also explain everything else you need to know about buying a rep but instead you just want to be spoon fed the exact same info, like you are entitled to have someone retype all this info for you so you don't have to go to reddit. Wait untill you find out what the typical payment methods are.
You should probably just order some trash of dhgate, you will get what you deserve.

>>17573995

>>17574001
Yeah, just get an Islander like the rest of us.

>>17573648
Sunburst dials usually look much better in person.

>>17574001
Unironically this.

>>17573513
What model is that?

Reps shouldn't be on here at all. They just attract the trashiest people.

>>17574010
Nobody is trashier than rolex whores.

>>17574013
Untill you meet the people who buy fake rolexes so they can pretend to be rolex whores

>>17574013
t. seething poortard

Back to posting watches. The spring bar on this came off recently and I need to order a new one.

>>17574014
Nah, the fakers at least accept what they are and are honest about it. Most of them would probably even tell you it's fake if you tried to confront them about it and not give a fuck, they'd just continue swimming in the public pool in a t-shirt. The rolexfags in here just drone on and on about how much money they have in their investment accounts and how they COULD buy something more expensive and obscure but they just stick with rolexes because it cuts less into their investments and other people recognize rolex and knows how great they are because they have a rolex. It's so vulgar and cringey.

>>17573533
Almost bought the FPJ Elegante for 8k a few years back but felt like it wasn't worth more than 6 (still do) so I passed on it. FPJ watches are great but they've become massively overpriced on the grey market.

>>17574027
Alright, Helmut, cool it with shilling your brand.

>>17574035
>they've become massively overpriced on the grey market.
Subject to market manipulation by thewatchbox

>>17574027
>submariner homage
>cheap aliexpress strap
cringe

>>17574040
There's only one brand I will ever shill for, but sadly I don't own any of their watches. Maybe one day if fortune graces me with her favor.

>>17574005
I like a lot of the Islander dials and the Monster aesthetic. Torn between it and a Kamasu, because I like their red dial quite a bit too.

>>17574046
It's more of a Ploprof ripoff, actually. The strap's not bad, it's from Miro's Time and has held up better than the Sinn spring bars.

>>17574041
Redpill me on thewatchbox, is this a shady site?

>>17572931
How is it mate? Might want to cop that or the chronoscope

>>17574049
Based temporarily embarrassed millionaire.

>>17574051
I'm really curious about the abalone dial monsters. I like the idea of a pearlescent dial and every one being unique, I guess you have to hope you get lucky and get a cool pattern? Plus my girlfriend's family is Chinese and when we go to celebrate Chinese New Year and other Chinese holidays with them her mom always cooks abalone like 3 different ways for lunch and dinner over the course of a few days, so I think that's a fun parallel to wear an abalone dive watch while eating abalone.

>>17574068
I'm torn between that one and the red dial Kamasu to upgrade from my beaten up Vostok (even though the scuba dude always makes me smile).

>>17574068
One off dials can be pretty hit and miss. I got a MOP one and it's pretty subtle, you only really notice it at an angle.

>>17574054
Scammers, they recommended me a 16 x 44mm watch and said it would fit my 16cm wrist just fine. I was a bit sceptical so i specifically asked if the watch would slide under the cuff easily and they said yes. All lies! The watch is way too big and i can't wear shirts over it at all.

Do you guys trust your metal straps when swimming/diving?
I always switch out to NATO ever since one of those motherfucking god damn Seiko pin and collars failed on me on dry land.

>>17573857
based

Reality is loads of Rolex clones are pretty decent, and yeah if you hold two identical ones against each other you can tell the difference, but who the fuck does that? Like they also have to be fucking identical identical, since shit changes with different colors or different years so just because something's different doesn't mean it's fake.

That said, don't try this if you're some poorfag, because then people will think it's fake even if it isn't

Why are Swiss watches so boring?
Orient and especially Seiko have these fun dials. Love so many of the save the ocean collection.
Meanwhile Swiss watches are the dryest most boring watches known to man

>>17574103
>16
It should be illegal to sell watches that thick.

>>17574107
I trust split pins with my life. I tentatively trust screw pins, with thread locker applied. I wouldn't trust pin and collars as far as I can throw them.

>>17574107
Yes. I'm the guy with the bb36. It has never come off by accident. Jacques Cousteau wore a sub on a bracelet so I think you'll be alright.

>>17574120
I think the end links protect the spring bars from getting torqued to the point of failure.

>>17572846
Which one is this? It's not the F91W is it?
>>17573903
Aren't there a million casios with countdown timers?

>>17573685
no, the cheapest ones are aliexpress specials (skmei, yazole, skmael). you can get those for <5usd

>>17573874
>anything else you are just fooling yourself so you can feel like you are better than other people
fine by me

Poorfag here, should I cop this?

Honestly can't tell if it's corny or cool

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>>17574137
Go for it.

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>>17573969
No wonder /fa/ has gone down the drain when there's so many redditors here

>>17574124
Its an F105. F91W is shit for illumination.

>>17574041
>>17574035
I would hesitate to call it market manipulation. It's the same old story of too much demand and not enough supply. It's like Rolex and Patek but much worse because of how few watches they make each year.

>>17574137
It's a great watch.

>>17574140
Is the F105 to the F91W what the A168 is to the A158?

My girlfriend gifted me an entry level Omega.
While it was a thoughtful gift it's not really my cup of tea. Nothing against Omega, I just like different brands more.
So I took the watch to the boutique and got the money back.
I bought myself a nice Islander watch instead. Now my girlfriend is really mad at me.
She doesn't listen to reason, like the exquisite finishing of the dial or the affordable price for such a luxurious item. Am I the asshole?

weak

>>17574114
I was joking, anon. Tim Mosso from watchbox always says the "slides easily under the cuff" for any watch basically.

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>>17573784
Cope

>>17573103
If you would be financially devastated by person with black skin taking your watch off your wrist, you've already fucked up on so many levels you shouldn't be allowed to manage what little money you have