/fa/ - Fashion

>>17560791

i imagine orwell decked out in an armored suit of denim.

>>17560791
this is America so celebrity inspo is, perhaps regrettably, based

is it worth to pee in you raw denim jeans for better fades?

>>17560814
only if your pee is pure ocean water

>>17560817
If I drink a lot my 2 or 3 pee looks like water.

>>17560833
eat salt and post inspo or gtfo

Some of my SUFU era pairs

>>17560956
The back of one pair

>>17560956
>>17560960
my god these are black tie event ONLY

>>17560796
>>17560949
>>17560956
Honestly what's the appeal?
Wearing the same pants for years and years without washing them only for them to have those shitty generic looking patterns?

>>17560960
i love the momotaro stripes

>>17560960
Recent pickups
Left is japanese denim and sewn by some guy in eastern europe. Left is chinese demin made by this chinese repro brand called Bob Dong
Details on the Chinese pair are shockingly good, hidden pocket rivets, properly sewn belt loops, chainstiching etc etc

>>17560968
the appeal is high qualty garments that will mold to your body shape and show unique wear

>>17560968
personal authenticity, community, heritage, conspicuous consumption, visual tangible evidence of entropy. plus, the breaking period where you've got super ridged pants is kinda nice. it's a good feeling to notice "woah, these are actually really comfy now".
also it's better to support artisans than it is to support fast fashion. there's aesthetic value in ahving something made by someone who really knows what they're doing as opposed to someone who is just pressing "start cycle" on industrial machinery (a bit of a gross simplification, but still)

>>17560791
Oldfag thread brought everyone out of the woodwork

>>17560972
my red tornados also have supprisingly good craftsmanship. well worth the price

>>17560979
Yeah the seem nice, i keep trying to recommend them and people think im shitposting.

>>17560984
na they're good. Better than my uniqlo and nudie (for the price)

>>17560987
>nudie
I have an old pair of those from like 2006, they were okay, i got them in this really exaggerated green cast denim and i never loved how they faded. Construction lacked all the proper vintage details but that was never really their thing.

>>17560994
yea dont get me wrong in a different timeline they're my fav. i really like the new school n&f/nudie/uniqlo look, prefer it even. but construction wise the fabric is sub par. crotch blew out too quick

>>17561000
>really like the new school n&f/nudie/uniqlo look, prefer it even
Yeah, for a long time the Japanese demin brands were only making big boxy classic levis 501 fits. Outside of that you had apc, dior 21cm, 19cm etc and nudie also april 77 making drainpipes. Now there are countless options and plenty of more slim fitting stuff from the Japanese. I still don't think anyone has beat those classic dior cuts. Pic related dior homme 19cm

just picked up some Samurai double knee pants and some Oni secret denim

>>17561048
kinda like looser cuts desu. depends tho.

>>17561056
Samurai has some real special denim, ive got a softspot for them. Some day i will get one of their left hand twill models. Big fan of oni too but ive never picked up anything from them.

>>17560791
>be big tcb fan
>go to buy their new tabby shirt release
>it sold out instantly
raw denim and their brands are still really popular despite this board claiming the opposite

>>17561070
The Oni's are really nice, I wanted to pick up some of the 20 oz Asphalts but none of the cuts are high rise, I need like a 16+" back rise. I'm really considering getting the Tanuki high rise acid wash jeans just to take me back to the early 90s Jordache look

>>17561103
The Tanuki's

What is the 19cm replacement? I love that fit.

>>17561083
techno feudalists (i.e. cyberdweebs who hate post about other boards) want total domination and it blinds them.

>>17561103
i tried these on when i was in tokyo and the denim is fucking INSANE the cut sucked for me tho

>>17560791
>Been wearing Raw denim since 2008
>They finally look good and faded after a few years
>Start a new pair because it feels like I'm wasting "wear" time

How do I break this compulsion? I have more pairs than I realistically need. Besides the ones fully retired due to weight gain or getting sick of skinny chts. I have 3 well faded jeans plus a current fresher pair I'm working on

>>17560791
We are all 30+ year olds in here aren't we lol

>>17561198
the real treasure is the friends you make along the way anon

>>17561194
The only one that might fit me is the straight cut and I think the back rise is way too low. Unfortunate because it's so unique, but I definitely like the 20 oz secret denim I got.

>>17561194
>>17561103
I got the coverall jacket in the asphalt denim.
It is fantastic.

Graphzero has some wild looking stuff

>>17560791
raw denim is shit. stretch jeans with a proper fit are superior in every way.

>>17561220
shalom

>>17560791
Tbh. The best jeans would probably be an LVC 1966 equivalent.

I think sugar cane and TCB have an equivalent. (If I were to get another pair of jeans it would be the tcb 60s jeans) Just get a pair and you will be satisfied and not think raw jeans ever again.

Don't size down and factor in "stretch" to get the "perfect fit". If anything I think you can get away with wearing them a little upsized

>>17561233
why you would accuse me of being jewish when raw denim is exorbitantly more expensive is curious, anon

>>17561244
encouraging someone to constantly rebuy cheap fast fashion sweatshop "denim", filling up landfill, instead of an artisan made pair that lasts forever would be very jewish of you, anon

>>17561255
>rebuy
when did i suggest that? why would you rebuy them? get something of quality. i never told you to cheap out on stretch jeans. Even buying an expensive pair is cheaper than gay ass cardboard feeling fucking raw denim. faggots like you are why they can charge as much as they do for that garbage. cowboys used to wear raw denim because it was fucking cheap, you fucking hipster.

>>17561220
raw stretch is perfect. go back to levis and kys

>>17561266
5% elastane or you're wasting your money, anon. remember that.

>>17561270
na youre right

>>17561270
wait you mean </=5% right? like either of these are a good bet?
https://www.nakedandfamousdenim.com/en/black-grey-stretch-selvedge
https://www.nakedandfamousdenim.com/en/black-power-stretch

>>17561305
black power stretch. 2% stretch is basically nothing and will still feel like wearing a fucking cardboard box unless you're anorexic. 5% is where it's at.

>>17561308
well i prefer denim without stretch anyway so i'll be fine. :3

>>17561316
best of luck with your anorexia

>>17561322
na just buy the correct size lmfao

>>17561322
Stop being fat

>>17561330
murica loves raw denim

>>17561262
>expensive stretch jeans
kek

How do I identify raw denim online if it's not explicitly marked as such and which brands commonly sell it in Europe?

Any other Iron Heart fanatics here? Been wearing in a pair of 25 oz and they are fantastic

>>17561220
awful bait

>>17561469
is picrel yours? very nice, loving the wallet button fade kek
im working through a couple cheaper pairs at the moment (burgus plus, uniqlo, n&f) but i think ill cop some iron hearts or onis in a year or so.
Currently i'm more into vintage levis than raws but ill get my shit together at some point

>>17561469
I've only got one of their shirts and it's great.

>>17561461
Raw denim is supposed to be unwashed and unsanforized, if it is then it will shrink substantially when washed. Most companies sell them as one-washed or sanforized to remove the shrinking process. Redcast Heritage and Rivet & Hide are good places to look. I've bought some stuff from Redcast before and it was quick to ship out.
https://redcastheritage.com/
https://rivetandhide.com/

>>17560796
I never cared about fades but those look sick

>>17561234
>The best jeans would probably be an LVC 1966 equivalent.
Any dufference between those and the current 1967?

>>17561550
>1967 is a 505 cut?

They have a zip I'm pretty sure

But yeah the reason I say 1966 is cos I think it's the first ones that don't have the rivets in the back pockets. So as they get older you don't need to worry about metal poking through which might rip your car seats and stuff lol. Plus the fit is nicer too imo, slightly loose in the top block while a bit more tapered around the ankle.
Otherwise you do miss out on a leather patch

>>17561550
>>17561555
Otherwise just get the regular range of Levi STF if you don't care about selvage lines since that's all you're really paying for beside detail autisms when going for more expensive Japanese raw denim.

They will last just as long as any other raw denims that arent autism heavy weight

>>17561555
>>17561556
Thanks. I got a pair of lvc 505 1966 that I bought more than a decade ago. I think they discontinued them but saw some 1967 505 online and was wondering if there was any difference between the two.

>>17561486
Not mine. I’ve had mine for about 3 months now. IH is worth every penny

>>17561104
Fuck it, I bought the acid wash one. Denimio has em on sale this week.

>>17560791
I regret selling all my Japanese meme denim and now want to buy some again. It seems way more expensive now than when I bought it last time.

>>17562291
>meme denim
this is where you went wrong

>>17562270
Nice, also holy shit that site is cheap.
They have samurais for less then what i paid at blue and green 12 years ago

>>17562291
Its actually a good time to buy, just get from Japanese shops directly instead of importers.
Denime got mentioned upthread but you you spend some time digging on rakuten you can get great prices and most of those shops ship internationally so you don't need to use a proxy service. Last time i checked you can get wharehouse brand jeans for like $120 on rakuten.

>>17562357
Yea Denimio has great prices and free shipping/no import fees. And you get points for each purchase you can use to discount future purchases.

looking for a nice black raw denim under $300.
no stretch pls.

>>17562423
What cut?

>>17562423
https://www.denimio.com/b0105sp-15-7oz-gtb-selvedge-black-x-black-denim-narrow-tapered-one-wash.html
https://www.denimio.com/circle-14oz-zimbabwe-x-australian-cotton-vintage-selvedge-black-straight-one-washed-circlebk.html
https://www.denimio.com/tcbjeans-s40-s-jeans-14oz-ww2-black-model-one-washed.html
https://www.blueowl.us/collections/orslow/products/105-13-5oz-black-selvedge-denim-standard-fit?variant=39862540959802
https://www.blueowl.us/collections/orslow/products/107-13-5oz-black-selvedge-denim-ivy-fit?variant=39862540599354
https://www.blueowl.us/collections/all-products/products/1109bkbk-13-5oz-double-black-selvedge-denim-slim-fit?variant=39769858080826
https://www.blueowl.us/collections/all-products/products/1108bkbk-14oz-double-black-selvedge-denim-slim-straight-fit?variant=39769760366650
https://www.blueowl.us/collections/all-products/products/stealth-15oz-black-selvedge-denim-in-silveridge?variant=39743702007866

>>17562423
Oh can't forget samurai, these are usually way over $300
https://www.denimio.com/s710nbkii-17oz-black-denim-slim-fit-straight.html

>>17562437
>>17562452
>>17562459
thank you anon I will check these out. I'd prefer a slim straight fit but can go either direction depending on the denim.

>>17562468
There should be some slim strights in there
Those samurais are pretty tasty

>>17562503
>https://www.denimio.com/s710nbkii-17oz-black-denim-slim-fit-straight.html
do these run really small? if those measurements are correct I will need to size up 2 sizes from my normal jeans. They do look great.

>>17562592
I sized up on the Samurais I got recently

>>17562592
Measurements should be correct, you can email them to confirm. They are one wash so they will strech a little bit but dont buy something planning on stretching it out because it will be tight.
It can be helpful to compare the thigh and leg opening measurements to a pair of jeans you own to get a better idea of what the overall fit is like, that can help with sizing decisions.

Dont the jeans start to stink and get nasty? I mean you dont wash them right?

>>17562626
I wash my stuff

>>17562626
if you dont wear them everyday and air them out inbetween wears theyll be fine for ages. most of the blowouts you see in denim is from niggas wearing them every single day and not letting them dry out or whatever between wears properly.
obviously dont shit your pants or spill a curry on them or you will need to wash them

A pickup from when you could still find good stuff on ebay
Late 60s levis type 3 jacket

>>17562672
The woven big E tag

>>17562672
very nice

>>17562423
3sixteen, freenote cloth, tellason. If you live in near a major metropolitan area, PLEASE find a store where you can try them on.

bump

fuck i just needed this thread. i got some momotaros recently but i realize they're a bit loose right now. and i was told by the store when i bought them that they could actually stretch out more.

haven't washed them yet, it's been a few weeks. would washing them once in warm water fix this?

>>17562978
if they were a bit over sized when you first put them on they might be too big for you. washing them once in warm water will probably work temporarily but theyll loosen up again when you keep wearing them. might be best just to exchange them for a size lower

>>17560972
Nice where did you buy?

>>17562626
You wash them when they get like that

>>17561202
fuck you i'm only 29 nigga

>>17561216
not bad at all for the price. wish i saw that in japan.

>>17561469
really wanted to copy a pair above 20 oz but could not justify owning it as someone who lives in a hot tropical country. 14-16 seems to be the sweet spot for me.

shockingly good thread

What's a good retailer in yurop for raw denim?

>>17563062
here (aus) its cheaper to just order it from japan idk about europe, probably same though. i dunno if europe makes any of their own good denim - i know son of stag in london has loads of cool stuff but theyre renowned for being overpriced

>>17563062
Redcast Heritage, Iron Heart Uk, Rivet and hide, Pancho and Lefty

>>17563072
definitely not cheaper to order from japan with VAT and Customs added, especially if no free worldwide shipping.
>>17563073
thank you anon

>>17563106
Denimio has free shipping, prices are pretty low and they get around customs fees. Check them out as well.

>>17561469
>>17560796
>spending USD 300-400 to get blown out crotches

here me out. does spot washing the crotch area help prevent blowouts? i understand that leaving them unwashed may actually lead to blowouts since sweat and shit can deteriorate your jeans faster.

>>17563116
see >>17562663
obviously washing more often will help the denim last longer, but it will change the way it fades. the problem you see with most online raw denim guys is they will wear the same jeans for literally like a whole year in a row. if you rotate between say 2 pairs everyday (like you should be doing with leather shoes etc so they can properly dry out) you are way likely to blow them up.

>>17563120
*every other day

>>17563120
well that's why i plan to just spot wash my pair in the crotch area around every other month or so just to keep them sturdy while still maximizing fades. that's historically the only problematic area for me anyway. i have /fit/ thighs (un)fortunately.

>>17563148
you'll have a very faded crotch where you've been washing them

>>17563120
I just don't understand how people do this. They start to stink. Putting shit in the freezer doesn't cut it. Every public seat you've been in has grease, oils, and whatever the fuck else.
Hand washing is fine. Its gentle.

What should I know and look out for before buying my first pair?

>>17563194
Yeah no one who is not retarded is saying don't wash them. A soak every now and then is not gonna hurt anyone, but this shit was not made to be machine washed every couple of wears, which is how most normies treat jeans. They won't start to smell for ages if you don't wear them every day, if your pants smell that bad from being worn for 8-12 hours a couple of times a week you probably have a medical condition.
>>17563198
I would start with 1 wash stuff, especially if you're buying online. The shrinkage can be crazy and surprising otherwise.

>>17563107
>prices are pretty low and they get around customs fees.
so am i supposed to just pick "Yes - Most customer's choice" at Create your own shipping document?

>>17563359
yes if you are ok with committing mail fraud and your package being valued at $20 if it goes missing.

>>17563423
Whatever i just did it, will see what happens. At worst i pay like 60€ extra.

>>17563435
I was just messing with you, but it is the first website I've ordered from that gives you the option to do this. I'm all for people keeping their own money.

>>17562985
>Nice where did you buy?
The jeans from the eastern euro were a lucky ebay find, some guy with my exact build bought a pair, wore them once, either didn't like the fit or got to fat for them and then sold them on ebay for 1/4 what he paid for them. The guy that made them was running some istagram business that now seems defunct.
For the bob dongs their official store is on taobao, you can either order from there with a proxy service or using taobao's international shipping option or message ALs Store on aliexpress he has Rock Can Roll in every listing title and ask him to proxy something for you. He has some bob dong stuff listed but it hasn't been updated in a while so it's best to check their taobao store. The pair i got is one of their earlier productions and they look like they have only gotten better since then.

>>17563194
When i was really autistic about raw denim i took them off and put them over a box fan set on low at night. I absolutely refused to wear stinky jeans and washed them whenever necessary but airing them out at night really helped to make them not smell for longer.

Lets see some fit pics
Im definitely not used to wearing jeans cut this high and wide but it's pretty comfy

>>17563622
These don't get all the nice sharp defined creases and whiskering you get on a nice slim fit pair.

What denim brands make a nice lee 101z repro? I want all the details correct or at least reasonably so. I know lee makes a decent amout of them but i want to see what else is an option

>>17563622
I'm sorry anon but that doesn't look good
If they were just a little bit narrower it would be a good fit, the colours are nice

>>17560791
How does /raw/ feel about Levi's 501 StF as babies first raws? The non selvedge ones are on sale. Ordered a pair for $50 shipped.

>>17563622
Looking like a Texan, would drink PBR with.

>>17563927
They are surprisingly nice, at least the last pair i handled was. Denim is reasonably heavy and looks decent. Better than most denim levis uses

Ive been wearing my first levis 501 stf for the last month and last night i was told to wear better jeans lol
they fit fine in the thigh but are too loose in the knee and below.
>fell for the muh OG trad cheap raw denim
chicks like my 20 dollar prefaded walmart slim straight jeans better

should i get wrangler raw denims that are a tighter fit than 501s? I thought my 501s looked fine with boots but with sneakers the leg holes are massive at 17"

>>17563935
Good to know
>>17564032
Did you actually shrink them or are you just wearing them as is? From what I've seen, sizing changes pretty dramatically. The "shrink" part of shrink to fit is meant literally.

>>17564032
>I thought my 501s looked fine with boots but with sneakers the leg holes are massive at 17"
Should have gone with a smaller size
Anyway have you washed them already or just soaked them? Just wash inside out on hot setting for you washing machine, no spin cycle, wring em out with a towlel and hang dry for minimal color loss. Or if you aren't autistic just wash em hot, leave the pin cycle on and then hang dry.

>>17564045
>>17564048
Yeah I shrank them, bought the same waist size and 2 inches higher in the inseam, and they fit great apart from the straight-leggedness, ass looks good, I also machine washed them once already cause they got spilled on
I know the fit is not for everyone, they feel like relaxed fit under the knee, kinda odd after a decade of slim fit jeans so I’m not gonna baby them, they’ll be my work jeans this summer

>>17564059
Yeah maybe you're just too thin and lanky for them to look good on you. I'd try cuffing them if I were you, most people IRL think that looks nice or don't even notice. Only spergs here hate cuffs. Worst case, I guess that's a real nice pair of work jeans. Maybe you'll like them more beat up anyway.

>>17564064
how much pinched loose fabric should i have at the knee for a proper fit with these?

>>17564059
Weird, i know they arent skinny jeans but to me they have a reasonably narrow leg opening.

>>17564073
I'm not sure I've never measured mine. I just mine were noticeably more tapered after a warm go through the washer and hang dried. Not as narrow as say, levis 511s but more so than they were originally or off the rack 501s. I'm also a 6 foot 200lb gym rat, so what fits me well might not fit well on you. Sorry I don't really have better advice.

>>17564077
i got decent thighs but small wrists, elbows and i guess knees fml
ill run them through the hot washer now, screw it

>>17564074
maybe im just used to 14" slimfit shit

thanks folks

>>17564084
>ill run them through the hot washer now
Not a bad idea since you already decided you didn't like them. Hope they shrink just enough. Good luck, Anon.

>>17563622
Pretty good, these will probably shrink a bit in the top box and fit perfectly with a wash. Personally I'd hem or cuff them but they look pretty good with boots as is

>>17563927
Haven't tried the raw ones but 501 is pretty much the perfect cut, I'd go for it

Speaking of 501s zappos has a couple styles of LVC 501s going for like $150-$200 right now.
https://www.zappos.com/p/levis-premium-vintage-1955-501-jeans-rigid/product/9839223/color/171805
https://www.zappos.com/p/levis-premium-vintage-1937-501-regular-fit-jeans-rigid/product/9049148/color/171805
https://www.zappos.com/p/levis-premium-vintage-1954-501-tapered-jeans-rigid/product/9047731/color/171805
At lest im pretty sure they are lvc, two of them say made in japan.

>>17564265
Is LVC worth it? I feel like I'd rather get naked and famous weird guys if I was looking to spend close to $200 on jeans. I guess if they really are made in Japan there's a fair chance they're good quality.

>>17564346
I think they are overpriced at their retail of nearly $300. They used to be made in usa with usa made denim which was a cool feature.
Overall you can get really nice repros from Japanese brands but if you are really into the 501 and like nerding out about the details they can be a fun buy. That said i haven't owned them, i just spent an hour or two rubbing them at a levis flagship store once.

>>17564552
peppino peppino, ~1 year no wash

>>17564555
>~1 year no wash
imagine the smell

>>17564552
>>17564555
these pants look retarded buy skinny

>>17564346
About a decade ago I bought LVC 505 1966 model on sale from Cultizm. So far they are my first and only pair of raw denim. Those were the nicest jeans I've had in terms of quality, construction and the cut was awesome. Of course they were cheaper and I beleive I got them for 160-180, current model retails for 275 which is a bit too much if you ask me.

>>17564552
>>17564555
based, fucking sick cut
back pockets look like theyre gonna be an issue though

My next "project pair" will be a pair of left hand twill weird guys I will wash regularly right side out to try to achieve a marble / acid wash look over time.

Can't wait to post on reddit to see the denim nerds seethe

>>17564745
I don't think anyone except you will seethe if you purposely make your jeans worse

>>17564751
I have plenty of nice clean faders. Just got their hard and soft selvedg and they're really remarkable. Wouldn't do a project like that with a seasonal like the hard and soft but run of the mill left hand twill (hey that rhymed) I have no qualms about having some fun with.

>>17564346
Truly best jeans are still the vintage levks if you can find in decent condition under 100 bucks. I have 517 from 81, some cord 517 from 84, and some 505 from 88. The real ticket in those is the construction. When they say don't make em like they used to...

Even my n&f and other high end brands I've tried don't match.

What to look out for for someone getting their first pair?

>went to a denim store
>end up liking Orslow more than the 19+ oz samurai and oni
???

>>17564680
>current model retails for 275
Yeah I think I'd rather just go all in and buy Iron heart if I'm spending that kind of money. Sounds like it's definitely worth the sale price though.

>>17564919
Heavyweight denim is a meme

>>17564555
yeah, they look filthy too

>>17565127
You say that until you own a pair of IH 21oz 888s.

>>17565127
Not when it's winter for half the year where I live

Really like the way the new MIJ11 looks, too bad they are like $800

>>17565326
I've survived northern minnesota winters in regular Gap jeans bro, its not hard, but if youre going ice fishing or snowmobiling you aint wearing jeans

>>17565548
Good for you, it was -30 to -40C for nearly a whole month here this winter. I dress warm.

>>17565354
Awesome streaky denim but way too much money

>>17565554
To people in the northern US, that's not the flex you think it is. Temps like -30c are very common in places like Northern Minnesota, Maine, New York (not NYC), etc. With windchill we'll hit the -40c range pretty regularly in the winter. It's still below freezing in Minnesota right now.

>>17565592
It was -49 in February here. Cold is cold, I'm not wearing 10-13 oz denim in those temps. You can do whatever you want but I'd like to keep my balls warm when I'm shoveling snow.

>>17565607
>Shoveling snow in jeans, chukka boots, and reddit MFA peacoat
u wot m8
>>17565592
this
T. -40 F thriver

>>17565641
>Shoveling snow in jeans, chukka boots, and reddit MFA peacoat
>creating a strawman like an absolute retard
I wear real boots, never owned a pair of chukkas in my life.

>>17565354
Love the slub but not sold on that colour

>>17565326
regardless of the weight of denim its not going to help you in cold weather. you could wear cotton duck work pants and it still wouldnt matter. COTTON KILLS 100%. take the woolpill, anon

>>17565693
I wear wool long johns

>>17565738
ok you get half marks for that. i will admit i took that same route for my formative years of outdoorsing but soon came to realize the inferiority of cotton on wool when compared to wool on wool

>>17560977
That was one of the most wanky, pretentious posts I've ever seen on this board.

>>17565763
>noooo you can't take your passions and hobbies seriously you have to be ironic and retarded at all times!

>>17565326
Bro I live north of the 54th parallel. We hit -45 during our 7 month winter. You gotta have long johns.

>>17565806
I do.
>>17565738

>>17565810
Sorry am retard

>>17564032
This is me, paranoid schizo first time 501 STF wearer, please rate post-shrink fit

>>17566116
look like they fit pretty perfectly to me

>>17566116
Now move around and jam your hands in and out of the pockets so they look lived in and you're golden. That's the perfect tightness for freshly washed 501 stf. Enjoy.

>>17566116
>>17566148
My first raws. Here's what you can expect after 18 months (in rotation with others) and wash when they're dirty, spills and stuff too. Don't be afraid to wash jeans. It's part of the adventure.

>>17566177
Very poor lighting. Here's another look with different light. Best way to see fades in the sun tho.

>>17566177
>>17566182
Real life is somewhere between these. Hard to capture.

>>17566177
>>17566182
Back pocket against new naked and famous hard+soft. Preemptive internal crotch patch in my 501s so I don't get caught by surprise one day.

>>17566188
F forgot to attach

>>17566189
O my fucking god

>>17566177
I quite like the vintage fades you got going
>>17566148
>>17566121
God bless, anons

Some new Samurais in stock at Redcast, interesting color

>>17566195
Ty this pair is a point of pride for a passionate and petite person of perpetual petulance

>>17566195
>>17566198
Here, my first ever piece of raw denim anything. My gap western selvedge jacket. What a piece.

>>17566205
>>17566191
>>17566182
>>17566177
My shit gets washed and I still have some pretty baller fades so don't get all up in arms abt the memory of the fabric, over time the bottoms around the hem will be as shrunk as they'll be so your stacks will set more truly and stay aligned.

But sift through heddels fade of the week and other forums and find the fade type you prefer and head for that. Don't let anybody tell you how to care for your jeans cause they should make you feel like a baller pimp g dawg cool guy homie when you wear them.

For shizzle

>>17566116
Perfect

>>17566182
Nice

I have a wabash shirt from IH and I look forward to one day it fading like pic related. Wabash is an absolute bitch to fade

>>17560791
inspo

>>17566116
Perfect tightness but desu I would have preferred one size up from that just for a bit more leeway

>>17566275
this looks like something a prisoner in mississippi in 1972 would wear

should i bid $50 for it

>>17566316
>ugly rip on the type 3

Ye no. I mean do whatever but no.

>>17566302
are you implying that's not based?

>>17566316
type 3 is normiecore
get 1 or 2

>>17566316
It's nothing mindblowing but if you can have it for 50 bucks and you want another type 3 sure

>>17560791
Should I wash my 501 STF inside out or no?

>>17566298
and the crazy thing is i have a micropackage so RIP to the guys with bull testicles

>>17566495
Yeah wash it inside out

>>17566495
If a pair of stf got streak fades from the washer the world would not collapse. Limited run Japanese stuff might be a bit sad if you are into clean looks, but look around at the supermarket today and see how many people's jeans are nearly white washed and covered in those vertical streaks.

You had to look pretty close to notice, didn't you?

any wide leg/baggy suggestions lads?

>>17566920
Budget?
Sugar cane is a classic for those relaxed cuts
https://www.denimio.com/sugar-cane-sc40401a-14oz-hawaiian-indigo-mixed-sugar-cane-denim.html
https://www.denimio.com/sugar-cane-sc42009-12oz-standard-denim-1947-model-type-ii.html
Also these kamikaze attack brand jeans look fun and the price is good
https://www.okayamadenim.com/collections/kamikaze-attack/products/kamikaze-attack-raw-straight-regular-straight

>>17566920
https://www.blueowl.us/collections/all-products/products/mje2060m31-heritage-13oz-rinsed-selvedge-denim-wide-straight-fit?variant=39839219646522
https://www.denimio.com/tcb-tcbpreshjeans505-tcb-pre-shrunk-jeans-type-505.html
https://www.denimio.com/xx001-000-xxxx-extra-model-regular-straight-15-8oz-organic-cotton.html
https://www.denimio.com/s510xx15oz21us.html
Gotta mention the two pairs from Bronson are chinese made with chinese denim
https://bronsonshop.com/collections/pants-trousers/products/lot-808xx-1937-model-selvedge-denim-jeans?variant=43664816079064
https://bronsonshop.com/collections/pants-trousers/products/bronson-lot-801xx-1950s-vintage-selvedge-denim-jeans?variant=42225589256408

>>17566920
https://dutildenim.com/collections/samurai/products/samurai-double-knee-work-pant-17oz?variant=39753069985895

do raw black denim 'fade' or lose color when washing them? I really like the way it is now.

>>17567104
Yea black denim will fade

>>17567104
It depends on the jeans, some are dyed with special dyes or techniques so they won't fade. Others are dyed with special dyes or techniques so they will fade dramatically.
For example this pair of saurai jeans says that the dye is permanent
https://www.denimio.com/s710nbkii-17oz-black-denim-slim-fit-straight.html
>A popular slender straight 710XX black black model. The original 「17oz Black Black Selvich 」 is made from dyes that are difficult to lose color and are intended to enjoy a more black feel.
https://www.samurai-jeans.com/en-us/collections/2022aw-season/products/s710nbkⅱ-710ブラックブラックモデル

>>17567104
If you want to keep a pair of black jeans looking real black you can always re-dye them. Don't use RIT dye it's junk get this stuff
https://www.jacquardproducts.com/idye-natural

>>17566955
>>17567084
>>17567090
thanks lads
budget was under $400

>>17567418
A few more for good measure
https://www.blueingreensoho.com/collections/jeans/products/sd-do1-natural-indigo-regular-straight-jeans
https://www.blueingreensoho.com/collections/jeans/products/622-asphalt-20oz-asphalt-denim-relax-tapered
Some usa made denim
https://leftfieldnyc.com/collections/american-made-denim-fabric/products/smokestacks-vidalia-mills-14-oz-indigo-selvedge-wide-leg
And some thai denim
https://leftfieldnyc.com/collections/smokestacks-wide-leg/products/atlas-missle-thai-denim

>>17566483
nope, it's entirely based

>>17567466
Only thing that sucks about the us based denim stores is they get the export jeans that don't have back pocket stitching or red tags sewn into the back pocket. When people start retailing these Japanese repro jeans Levis sent out some threatened trademark infringement letters. I remember blue in greene actually ripping the back pocket stitching out themselves before shipping jeans to customers.

Copped this NBDN pair real cheap, apparently it was dead stock. Slubbly 19.6 oz slim straight fit. Breaking in nicely. Some weird details tho

>>17567487

>>17567489
nice Sashiko patch

>>17567489
Interesting texture on that

>>17567505
>>17567507
Thanks. I was iffy on the Sashiko patch but it's something different and has grown on me as I peak over to look at my shapely butt throughout the day

>>17567106
i fucking love this fade pattern so much. black to grey/white is so fucking hard. gonna spend all my money on black denim now D':

>>17567585
Yeah it's pretty great.
Thr black levis shrink to fit are a real darkhorse for black raw denims, the pair my friend had came out pretty good.

bamp

>>17567938
slow board, no need

Just returned from Japan and bought a pair of black Momotaro tax free. I like the subtle pink inseam and classic stripes. Didn't have a pair of black nor Momotaro yet, despite having visited their shop in Kojima previously I had only ended up buying their dobby work shirt, which has been fantastic and is starting to fade itself. Main pair is N&F Hand Dyed Weft.

Also felt up the Oni Asphalt >>17561103 at Hinoya, which is a hilariously apt name for how incredibly rough they are, but would be curious to see the fabric worn down. I'd almost be more interested if it wasn't too late season for that much weight.

>>17568017
Huge fan of momotaro, loved the fit of my pair, love the back pocket stripe
Fuck this thread is making me want black jeans

Nicest fades I’ve ever seen on a pair of jeans

>>17568358
Nice jeans but literally everything else about this picture is pure faggotry.

>>17568358
Ive never really liked how the 18+oz denim turns out, the creases are always so chunky and the fading patterns are a bit weird. I don't really love iron hearts denim in general.
12-15oz denim is the sweet spot imo

Some old blue and green x warehouse colabs with POWERFUL STACKING

Where can a guy get some actually durable jeans anymore?
I got a few new pairs of Levis (505 i think?) recently for work, and after 1 week, the first pair had a hole in the crotch, after a month the second had a hole at the corner of the back pocket, and after 3 or 4 months another pair ripped from crotch to rear while squatting to put something heavy on a low shelf
Im not fat and my job isnt hard on them, just dirty.
Before i got those, i had jeans that lasted years before the cuffs frayed too much.
Now Im down to one pair that I can actually wear without getting arrested for indecent exposure.

>>17568457
Just buy actual workwear jeans
The one for people with jobs not rich hipsters
https://www.round-house.com/collections/round-house-made-in-usa-jeans-dungarees-pants
The brown duck pants are super durable too

>>17568457
>>17568487
these two though they are a bit on the pricey side
https://schaeferoutfitter.com/collections/mens-jeans-trousers

>>17567489
CANT WAIT FOR THE BEAUTIFUL RAW DENIM EVOLUTION
>comes through three layers of iron heart jeans growing mushrooms on them

>>17568457
Also the levis 501 shrink to fit jeans, only the shrink to fits are still made with nice heavy denim. If you are okay with the weird detailing and light blue color the wranggler pro rodeo jeans are also still durable heavy denim.
These ones specifically
https://www.wrangler.com/shop/rigid-wrangler-cowboy-cut-original-fit-jean-13MWZR.html?merchCategory=WRG_MEN_JEANS&dwvar_13MWZR_color=0013MWZ
https://www.wrangler.com/shop/rigid-wrangler-cowboy-cut-relaxed-fit-jean-31MWZR.html?dwvar_31MWZR_color=31MWZDN

>>17568487
>>17568520
>>17568539
Cool Ill see what I can find

>>17566188
>Preemptive internal crotch patch
why do this? does it prevent blowouts? although i'd think it would make the unpatched parts weaker. hit me up with a link if you could brother

>>17568377
>low top vans and white t shirts are pure faggotry
What

>>17568791
Nah but that massive cuff and the slightly bent spread knee stance so the jeans crease properly for the picture are

>>17568846
Lol, imagine analyzing a photo to such an autistic level and then having the gout to call someone else a faggot

not sure why cuffing makes retards seethe so hard.
>inb4 muh reddit

>>17569149
Cuffing is fine, cuffing a 36 inch hem when you are 5'8 looks silly.

>>17569179
*36 inch inseam

>>17568846
Bro that cuff is not really that massive. Having a short triple cuff actually looks pretty aesthetic vs having a goofy ass long cuff

where do i get a good pair of jeans if im poverty+ level?

>>17569216
Red tornado on aliexpress

>>17569149
>>17569179
>>17569076

>>17569220
you srs?

>>17569226
Yes, they use decent denim, offer some popular cuts like levis 511 and cost like $60. Better then anything else you can get for $60 unless you want to sepend an afternoon digging through every edbay listing with raw denim in the tittle and grabbing something from some random defunct denim brand.
You can also go to tractor supply company and get wrangler 13mwz jeans for $40 or buy levis shrik to fit 501s for $50 off some westernwear website.
I mean what kind of budget do you have?

>>17569216
You can also get 501 shrink to fit levis for like $50 from their website rn

>>17569216
N&F usually has a bunch of shit on sale, you might luck out and find something in your size, just scroll past all the socks and shit
https://tateandyoko.com/collections/sale?sort_by=price-ascending

>>17569233
50 dollars per pair and id like two.

>>17569252
Levis StF or the Wrangler cowboy cuts are your best option

>>17568358
Doesn't look natural. Looks like it was done on purpose of that makes sense.

There is no real reason for jeans heavier than 14oz besides for LARP reasons

>>17569352
>a-are you wearing jeans!?! t-thats larping!
you fags are so pathetic, go back to /twink/

Got some left hand twill lee 101 riders for a steal. Can't wait for them to arrive. Ive always wanted a left hand twill jean and also one with lee detailing. lee seems to do a pretty good job with their 101 stuff so they should be decent quality at least.
The zipper fly is going to take some getting used to.

>>17569190
based af

>>17569369
these look real nice desu
not familiar with lees is 101 like their version of a 501 cut? obviously with a zipper instead

is there anything i can do to stop indigo bleeding on my shoes? it's getting kinda annoying.

also, is it bad to get sweaty while wearing raws?

>>17569687
>is there anything i can do to stop indigo bleeding on my shoes
not really
it will stop after a couple washes maybe

>>17569687
does renomat or similar remove the stains?

>>17569514
>not familiar with lees is 101 like their version of a 501 cut?
The name 101 comes from thr model numbers for some of their old pieces like the 101z jeans. But they use it currently as a sort of subbrand that makes higher end pieces. Like how levis has LVC (levis vintage clothing)
The pair i bought has the details of their old 101z jeans but with a modern slim tapered cut

>>17569352
>Looks like it was done on purpose of that makes sense
No it doesn't make sense
>There is no real reason for jeans heavier than 14oz besides for LARP reasons
Some guys prefer not only the appearance but also the feeling of heavy denim. Its actually pretty fuckin comfortable when they are worn in and softened

Powerful grampa jacket fit

>Imagine being forced to wear one pair of pants for the next 2-3 years for those epic fades, just so you can wear the same pair for another year to show off said cool fades before they fall apart on you.
To me thats kind of ridiculous, limiting yourself to the same pair of pants is fucking boring, I dont care how cool those fades look. And if you dont wear them every day then itll take a decade for them to look cool. Its almost anti-fashion to me.

I fell for the raw denim meme early on, but now I just get pre faded jeans that look just as good, if not better than a lot of 2+ year raw denim fades. This isnt the early 2000s anymore, prefaded jeans have gotten much better if you have the money to pay for it. The only time I can see raw denim being worth if is if you actually work some kind of manual labor job, in that case Id probably even get a high quality pair of my own. But I know most raw denim wearers are high schoolers/college kids/office slaves who probably get laughed at by their peers for wearing the same smelly jeans every day.

Does APC still pay coconut pickers to wear their jeans and then sell them after they have epic tree climbing fades?

>>17570663
Who are you quoting?

Where in NYC can I try and buy momotaros?

>>17571003
Good question, blue in green is solid but no momotaro and their stock on hand at any given time is limited, selfedge is good but no momotaros.
As long as you are buying sanfodized or pre shrunk/one wash jeans buying jeans online is pretty easy desu. Any good website should have the full measurement chart for each run of jeans they get in.
Just reference this measurement guide and compare to jeans you already have, it's not to hard to visualize the fit or find jeans that fit like ones you already have and like.
https://www.blueingreensoho.com/pages/measurement-guide#tab1

>>17571130
Thanks, i've been to the green street store before. I'll buy online then because i didn't know one wash means pre shrunk but that makes things easier

>>17570080
>Some guys prefer not only the appearance but also the feeling of heavy denim
Ngl I used to have my reservations about heavy denim but after trying some 501 StF, I really want to go heavier. They are my first experience with heavier denim and I love the way they feel and the fit after shrinking. I'm due for a bonus in a couple months and I might spend some of it on a pair of IH 21oz jeans. 888s or 777s. Not sure yet. Probably thr 888s as they seem like a more refined version of shrunk 501s. Wish I had pulled the trigger on higher quality jeans sooner in life.

>>17571197
I would suggest 18oz or 19oz if you want to go heavy, 20+ oz stuff is crazy. It doesn't really drape the way denim does normally and that can be a bit awkward.
I highly recommend getting some samurais if they have something that appeals to you, they really go above and beyond with the detailing. That said iron heart stuff is undeniably nice

>>17571197
my 20 oz Oni's were incredibly comfortable right from the start, highly recommend their secret denim

>>17571228
>>17571249
Good to know guys, I'll keep all that in mind.

>>17571003
Standard and Strange

>>17571197
Don't listen to any of the pussies who tell you to get below 21 oz. I rock 21 and 25 oz Iron Heart 888 and they get really soft despite what people think. Anything lighter makes you feel naked once you go the heavy selvedge route

>>17569369
I really want to try some 101s, just not sure if it's worth it

>>17571837
was looking last night at their premium offerings. big change to shell out. might be more worth to just try n&f lef thand for half the damn price.

>>17571837
I will post some detailed comments when they come in. I have a chore coat from their 101 line and it's made with some really cool woven fabric. Its ugly but that's another story.
The ones i ordered are Kaihara mills denim, so as long as they don't fuck up the construction or fit they should be solid. Of course since they are just using denim from the biggest selvage denim factory in japan they are competing directly with brands like naked and famous who come in at a slightly lower price point but i got em for half of msrp so that's fine.
They also have some pairs at the same price that are just listed as selvage with no origin, those are probably turkish denim or somewhere else equally unexciting. I probably wouldn't go for those.
Take a look around on ebay, they have done a few runs with Japanese denim including black denim, a greencast denim and 21oz denim, you can probably get some new with tags for a decent price on there.
They did a run in japan in the 90s of super accurate 1:1 reproductions of old models. You can find a few of those kicking around ebay still too, they look fantastic.

>>17560791
Reminder that raw denim is predominately worn by aging millennial hipsters who love beards, craft beer and workwear but have the most effeminate hands you will ever see on a man

>>17572338
>/fa/: the post

Just copped ub270

>>17572363
The texture on that is wild.
I like that they still have hidden back pocket rivets at that price point

Where can i get some nice beefy chinos? Looking for stuff around $100

Here, just posted in waywt too.

My hard+soft selvedge weird guys. How do they look? I'm used to higher rise like 501.

>>17572338
>nooooo you haven't heckin EARNED your denimerino!

>>17572363
damn i love slub
>>17573137
they look good bro

>>17572338
>said the zoomer who has never left his mom's basement

>>17560796
Anybody know what cut these are

>>17573137
what's the name of your band and album ??

>>17572341
>>17573164
>>17573172
*stomp* *clap* HEY

>>17573137
Those jeans fit perfectly and the overall fit is great. The only thing I'm not sold on is the hoodie.

does soaking with detergent also prevent crotch blowouts? or is machine washing the only way.

>>17573524
If you soak with detergent you gotta rinse em out afterwards, you don't want to leave detergent on them. At that point you might as well just wash them in the machine.
I find if you just do em in the machine with some kind of castile soap, no spin cycle, wring out with a towel and hang dry they don't really loose any color. I try to avoid regular detergent because it has enzymes and color brightening additives.
You can also just soak them in water and hand dry. Basically you want to wash the ballsweat out of them, it's the dried sweat combined with them demim staying damp constantly that makes the crotch blow out faster.

>>17573611
i just did a soak in a tub of water with some detergent. then i rinsed them with running water, inside and out, 3x afterwards. i hope that's enough. didn't seem to lose too much indigo.

>>17573137
Love the taper on those. Gotta sort out the rest of your fit though man, that bright hoodie and brown graphic tee ruin what would otherwise be a clean, classic look.

>>17573703
Yeah that's fine

>>17573735
Tee is grey, photo doesn't show too well.

>>17573750
Fair enough, still think the hoodie looks a little too jarring.

Got the lee 101 riders in
Im pretty happy with them. Construction is clean, detailing is nice, cut is solid.
Denim is nice and crispy

>>17574063
Real tight weave
Looks like its going to have some prominent vertical falling

>>17574063
>>17574069
Looks like a really beautiful slub character. Fit pics nau.

anyone ever try a cut off hem on their raws? I have a pair of Samurais but I'm over the reddit cuff look and feeling like cutting an expensive pair might be a power move. can't find any examples of people doing this online

>>17574078
>Fit pics nau.
These are sandfordized but im still going to wash them before i wear them. Im too old for all this starch.
Tagged 30in
Measures 31in

>>17574176

>>17574150
Just go to any random tailor and get them hemmed, or do it yourself.
If you wanted to leave a raw cut hem you should probably put a stitch around anyways like 1/3 inch up from the raw edge or they will just keep fraying further and further

>>17574176
Always wash new garments before you wear. Besides the starch there's factory dust and shit that will absorb through your skin.

Great lookin jeans

>>17574301
Yeah, and this is why i wash sandfordized jeans anyway, these totally preshrunk we swear jeans still shrunk half an inch to an inch in the waist, plus wearing them damp for a few minutes just gets a much better fit imo

I'm impressed guys, we made it to 300 plus posts any there was very little shitposting.
>>17574182
Proper starchy but good fit. Gonna look great after a couple weeks wear.

>>17574182
After a quick wash on delicate with some castile soap and a dry over a boxfan

>mfw when redditmaxxing because no one in town does chainstitching

>>17574557
There are several places that offer mail in service but everytime i look into it its too fucking expensive.

Looks like we hit the bump limit boys someone bake new

>>17563423
hey anon, my package arrived today. Didn't pay VAT or customs, extremely based. A steal for 165EUR, Thanks.