/fa/ - Fashion

>>17512582
I've got their kersey work shirt and it's one of my favorite shirts

>>17512594
Shit that's the western shirt this is the work shirt

>>17512594
>>17512597

Is it true that the Western UHF is slimmer than the normal work shirt?

>>17512598
The measurements online looked different when I was buying mine, I don't have the western one so I'm not really sure.

>>17512582
American denim :l
Japanese denim :OOOOOOO

>>17512605

I agree

>>17512582
are these preshrunk?

>>17512582
>it acquires because of the cotton 100% and true goodness is understood
what

>>17512612
yea

>>17512615
GENUINE QUARITY
ESSENTIAL OF U.S.A. CLOTHING

>>17512582
gay because i cant find them in canada

>>17512582
I have a pair of their 25 oz indigo and 21 oz overdyed black straight tapered. Don't let people on this board poopoo them for you. If you're already interested in them, they absolutely will live up to your expectations. Definitely go all in with no less than 21 oz

>>17512664
dutil carries them

>poorfags keep scrolling

ahahahahAHHHHH

>>17512582
Based.

>>17512737
>>17512582
>poorfags
this screams buyers remorse
go drop another grand on chink brands goy

>>17512664
Dutil and Brooklyn Clothing have them.
https://brooklynclothing.com/collections/iron-heart?grid_list=grid-view&filter.v.price.gte=&filter.v.price.lte=

https://dutildenim.com/collections/iron-heart-jeans-jackets-shirts

>>17512598
The western shirt is slightly slimmer and more tapered than the work shirt, and the sleeves are a tad longer too... The UHF material is really dense thougg, kind of uncomfortable imo the kersey is a far superior fabric.

>>17512582
Iron Heart is based. Its crazy how soft their 21 oz gets with dedicated wear, almost feels like wearing a pair of heavy jogging pants. Also, their UHF is insanely comfortable. If you are past your mid 20s and want to just resort to the standard timeless American fashion with jeans and button up shirts/flannels, then they are undoubtedly the highest quality you can get for that sort of thing.

>>17512582
cringe
its also not expensive

>>17512582
they are probably good quality,
don't know if the high price fits the quality though.
However, bc of nostalgia and tradition, I still would prefer wearing Levis 501 even though they are not as good as they once were.

>>17513332
it also gives me a strange, unpleasant, unauthentic feeling to wear traditional workwear at a price of luxury goods.

>>17513335
>$200
>luxury good price point

>>17513335
When taking inflation into account, the price of a pair of IH jeans is relatively how much jeans would have cost before mass clothing production really took off in the 20th century. In other words, they cost what they should cost. Its only a relatively recent concept to have massive amounts of clothing produced at the cost of essentially slave labor. This is why people have massive wardrobes nowadays. Clothing actually used to take time to make which translated into a higher cost. Shit was definitely not as cheap as you thought it was. On top of this, when you buy a pair of IH you are getting a pair of jeans that are constructed with an insane amount of structural integrity compared to any mass produced denim.

>>17512582
I meme on spending $400 on jeans meant to make you look like a working man who wears $20 rustlers but the truth is: they are probably worth the money you pay for them from a quality perspective.

That said, I would never buy them new. You can find them second-hand all over ebay and yes
>wearing other people's pants

>>17512582
Based as fuck, but make sure to go for the 21oz. The flannels are great too.

>>17512605
The nice American denim is even more expensive

>>17513413
>>17511297
NTA but you're kind of a brainlet.

>>17513412
>Shit was definitely not as cheap as you thought it was
my time of reference is the golden age of 80s 90s, not the 1920s.

>>17513789
Okay, then don’t wear heavy weight selvedge

>>17512582
I have that exact pair. It's definitely high quality but IHs are thick. Their 14 ounce feels like an American 18 ounce for some reason. If you're super into raw denim likes it's 2012 again then yeah you'll like it. If you want to be comfortable I'd go with something else though.

>>17513938
>If you want to be comfortable I'd go with something else though.
IH is actually comfortable though. Their loose, straight weaves makes the denim turn surprisingly soft with dedicated wear

>>17513976
>straight weaves
retard alert

based

>>17513976
I know they can be soft but jeans are just not comfy. Wear raw denim for a while and then throw on a pair of linen or stretch trousers and you’ll never want to go back.

>>17513938
>14 is heavy
oh shit. was planning on getting 21s. and i live in a hot country. should i just go for something lighter?

>>17516919
Denim in general isn't great for hot weather, an exception is sugar cane 50% linen or the rare part washi paper variants

Raw denim is played out. Plus the fit of your jeans will go out of style before you get fades.

>>17517025
>Denim in general isn't great for hot weather
Every southwest resident and a bunch of spaniards say otherwise

>>17517034
there's not a time in the history of denim jeans wherein a straight/slim tapered pair would be out of fashion

>>17517034
No. Straight/straight tapered is literally timeless

>>17512582
If you don’t wear Blue Deltas you have no reason to call people poor fags.

>>17517034
i don't really care about raw or fades, i just like high quality jeans with the right cut

>>17516919
I have 21oz 555 and they are comfy desu

>>17517034
>raw denim fags when you offer them prefaded jeans
>raw denim fags when their jeans get to the same prefaded look

>>17517256
>Get the same prefaded look
Nah. Cope harder poorfag

>>17518338
>noooo it has more contrast!! i wore these skinnyfag jeans for 3 years walking around to get them faded like prefaded jeans!
>$200 is expensive!!

lmaoooo

I bought some dark blue jeans that are on IH level. Can I keep them cuffed 24/7? Will they have a fucked up fade at the ends after a while?

>>17512582
their shirts are more interesting than their jeans

>>17513491
Which is

Should I go to Iron Heart in Hachioji (far as fuck) or is Hinoya fine?

>>17518457
>Nooooo! You can't wear nice jeans!!!! Not allowed!!
Why are you here?

>>17518519
Nice reading comprehension. Cope harder retard.

>>17518505
I like the Hinoya online store so lets go with that

>>17517104
>500 dollars for stretch fit jeans

>>17512582
I love IH and I wear a UHF everyday. I also have some 21oz 888s that I've had for a year but they have zero fades because I don't go outside much. I do have some older ones that I can confirm soften up like crazy. The 21oz denim is so fucking thick man. One of my fav things is when a chick notices them I say "it's so thick, feel it.." and they touch the fabric and their eyes bug out a little bit.

Worst thing about IH to me is their cuts. The 888 is basically the "skinniest" taper they make, and the bottom leghole is still super wide and flares out too much for my liking. Plus there's too much fabric in the ass and you can get that little floof of excess thing sticking out near your asscrack.

>>17512582
All the jeans on the IH website have polyester in them. I'm allergic to poly. Where do you get 100% IH jeans?

>>17512597
>>17512594
stolen valor. If you don't work in trades you don't get to wear our clothes. Me and my buddy beat up some hipster out behind the cafe and made him take off his carhartt overalls because he had soft hands. Having soft hands and a gentle face can get you into real trouble and you're gonna have to take off your un-earned work clothes. You ever been in a construction site bathroom, kid? Stop stealing valor.

>>17518505
I went to hinoya (well i think i visited 2/3 of their stores) this week and the really don't have a lot of iron heart stuff. I only saw a couple of pairs of jeans plus sole flannel.
I ended up getting some momotaros and a pair of burgus jeans and a belt (burgus is hinoya's house brand made by warehouse). If you're hitting ueno anyway check out ameriya and some of the other stores on ameyokocho
If you're going to Osaka you can check out the real mccoy store which was probably the coolest single brand store I saw.

>>17518793
i'm a forklift driver, can i get away with wearing workwear? being an actual labourer seems shit

>>17512582
It's only cringe when ppl try to come up with weird justifications for price when at the end of the day they're just friggen jeans/denim.

If you have extra disposable whatever, but don't try to act like there is 10x quality to justify 10x the price lol.

They're just a niche brand, with niche features that often can't be found in cheaper jeans and that you are paying more for exclusivity (liek most raw denim)

>>17518907
imagine asking someone else for permission to wear clothes

>>17518793
I could give you a wedgie and then fuck your mom in front of you and there absolutely nothing you could do to stop me.

>>17512876
>paying $300 for a flannel to make yourself look like a larping hipster

I just spent $300 on a UHF flannel and I still have money to cover my bills and pay for rent and food. Literally the only thing I spend my money on is beer, food and nice clothing

>>17518678
What cut would you recommend for someone who squats? I’ve got slightly muscular thighs so it’s tough to find decent fits. Worried about blowouts as well. Maybe I’ll do 14oz to be safe.

>>17518811
Thanks for the heads up will definitely check out Americaya. I don’t really need to see a super comprehensive offering, just looking for a good pair of raws that hopefully they could help me fit.

>>17512582
These ppl spend $300 on flannels for "muh quality" acting like anything else just falls apart in the wash.

Literally have never had clothes fall apart in the wash besides work t-shirts I wore for years and washed after each use. Then they started to get holes here and there. and even then I think it's more from the metal hanger so out them on seeing it's always the same spot on the left shoulder this happens too

Flannels I wear for work for years are still in good condition.

>>17518927
>>17519051
>>17519285
Iron Heart is for dudes over 27 years of age who have expendable amounts of money to buy higher quality pieces of the timeless staples that are never going to go out of fashion. All of your arguments are essentially just:
>Noooo!!!! You cant just afford nice clothes!!!!

I know its hard to understand for some of you, but paying $300 on a pair of jeans and/or flannel is literally not a big deal for guys who are more settled.

>>17519241
As someone who squats, I highly recommend the 888 cut. I've worn the 777 (slim tapered) and I'm able to fit into it, but its not a comfortable experience. The 888 will give you more than enough crotch mobility and thigh room while also giving a very small amount of taper at the ankle. A lot of tapered japanese denim will have a very dramatic taper at the ankle, but IH in my opinion has the perfect amount of taper which gives a nice leg silhouette while allowing enough leg opening to make it easy to fit them over boots

>>17517034
Imagine not buying a range of cuts so you can style ur denim as the seasons change

>>17512582
jeans... but japan!

>>17518793
This attitude is why I tend not to respect blue collar flags. You don't see the same kind of gatekeeping among other kinds of occupations

>>17519891
Amitora

>>17519896
As an earthwork contractor, i can confirm that this weird obsession with gatekeeping selvedge denim and leather boots only exists within the heads of autists on this board and that this does not occupy any headspace within blue collar workers at all.

>>17519891

>>17519967
That's kinda what I thought I just fucking hate these retarded work wear dogs so much

>>17520114
Yeah, there’s definitely a point at which it’s really silly when a soft limp wristed male wears shiny selvedge denim and crispy work wear pieces. That’s just it though, it’s looked at as nothing more than silly. Blue collar workers don’t obsess over this shit like people on this board may lead you to think that they’re all like, “my stolen valor!!!”.

>>17519846
>Iron Heart is for dudes over 27 years of age who have expendable amounts of money to buy higher quality pieces of the timeless staples that are never going to go out of fashion. All of your arguments are essentially just:
>>Noooo!!!! You cant just afford nice clothes!!!!
>I know its hard to understand for some of you, but paying $300 on a pair of jeans and/or flannel is literally not a big deal for guys who are more settled.
No I completely understand that.

Like I said and what you're admitting, it all comes down to having expendable income to blow on a niche product. There's nothing wrong with that at all. But don't go coming up with some weird ass justifications of these products having $300 worth of buttons, rivets, cotton etc. Or adding weird mysticism to the jeans of Japanese guys and their weird hand dye techniques etc

These Japanese people just discovered their niche business and found the highest price point they can get away with lol.

>>17520221
Their heavy flannels aren't really available at a much lower price point.

>>17512582
where do you live that $200 jeans are expensive?

>>17520235
the flannels aren't even wool. They are made of "Andean cotton", I have no idea why we should give a fuck that its from the Andes but there you go. I dont have an issue with cotton flannels but if I was gonna spend $300 on a shirt I would buy a woolen one

reddit

I have four pairs of jeans and five t-shirts from Iron Heart. Good shit. I can also recommend Studio d'Artisan and The Real McCoy's for sweats and outerwear.

>>17520368
no anon, this is 4chan

Any other reccs for stores in Osaka(or Kyoto)? Also if Japanese denim is so good why do they keep importing used Levi's?

Side note how's the Uniqlo denim?

>>17520364
I've worn plenty of cotton flannels and their flannels are just a different type of soft. Not saying its superior material in some magical way though. Their flannels are expensive because the construction of them contains zero structural errors and they go above and beyond with the stitching, button snaps, and the perfect cut/size. That being said, they are definitely a good example of the point of diminishing returns with respect to pricing, but at the end of the day they make the perfect flannel in my opinion and $300 is literally not a big deal to me. Its the same shit with guitar gear. Yeah, Gibson Custom Shop guitars arguably aren't objectively worth $6000+, but they are best and they can price them that high because they know they have the best shit

reddit s*yim

>buy nice pair of jeans
>too paranoid that they'll bleed on my other nice clothes to wear them

>>17520520
Turn them inside out, give them a cold rinse in the machine, hang dry. This removes some but not all bleed. You're just gonna have to wear them every day so you can wash them another couple times every three weeks or so to really get the full extent of the bleed out. If you're really concerned about staining your clothes, just don't wear white and you'll be fine.

>>17520580

yeah, I've washed them like that once. Otherwise I've been wearing them at home just to break them in and get used to wearing them. but i just bought a nice IH flannel and im super paranoid about staining it

>>17520613
Ive never experienced significant bleed from IH denim after washing it once. What color is the flannel? The only bleed that I ever noticed was a tiny amount of indigo getting onto the bottom of one of my white t shirts, but that shit cleaned up when I washed my whites with a hot wash and some baking soda

>>17520618

the jeans are actually from Rogue Territory but they are dark. The shirt is a Western that's red, blue and white

>>17520613
the indigo will wash out of most things, it washes out of my white tees just fine

I ride a motorcycle so the 25 oz/12 oz IH denim is FANTASTIC. Also the UHF work shits are absolutely kino and warm af. Its definitely my favorite brand currently. Quality is superb.

>>17520681
I had been wearing their 21 oz for the last 1.5 years. Shit is ridiculously comfortable and soft once broken in. About 3 months ago I got a pair of their 25 oz in their 888 cut. Been using them for work and casual wear and now that they’ve broken in and softened up, I prefer it over the 21 oz. The thickness and weight of the 25 oz combined with the soft texture makes it an incomparable experience

based

>>17520419
In Osaka check out real mccoy, the flat head, and d'artisan (they're all within a couple of blocks). Big john is pretty good too.
Japan is in a real "thing america" stage at the moment. Like a third of youth clothing stores are used resellers focusing on polo, levis, lees, wrangler etc. I picked up a couple second hand pairs of 501s in pretty much perfect condition (going to practice overdying on them) for like 4000 yen each.
I'm Australian and we don't get uniqlo selvedge but I picked up a pair in Shibuya yesterday for 40 bucks or whatever. Haven't worn them yet but gotta be worth a shot for the price.

>>17520580
>raw denim
>washing
absolutely ngmi

>>17513789
By your time frame for "golden age" American denim brands had all outsourced production and were making low density denim on projectile looms. I fail to see anything enviable about that.

>>17518784
The denim is 100% cotton, the thread used to sew it together is cotton sheath with a poly core because full cotton thread is significantly weaker. 99.9% of garments are constructed using poly or poly core thread. The only ones who use cotton thread are a few Japanese raw denim brands autistically dedicated to replicating details from old jeans.

>>17523685
Obvious trolling

>>17523844
Yeah, the guy saying to wash your jeans is trying to troll you into having mid af low contrast fades, don't listen to him anon

>>17523846
>sik high contrast honey comb fadez
I gotta admit, you're at least putting some level of effort into trolling

>>17523848
>t. will never have their denim featured on fade friday

>>17523949
lol

>>17512737
$200 on jeans is not that impressive anon

>>17522237
Those jeans are gorgeous. This is essentially the fading I would prefer my jeans to get to

Iron Heart vs Oni secret denim vs Naked and Famous whatever thick oz denim they have at the time like elephant or king of slub

>>17524729
the 20 oz Elephant 11 is really nice, wearing them right now

>>17518784
>I'm allergic to poly.
let me guess youre also gluten intolerant and have lupus/ME/fibromyalgia/generalized depressive disorder/generalized anxiety disorder

>>17518784
>All the jeans on the IH website have polyester in them

I like my Rogue Territory jeans so far, but I did order an IH fleece this week.

>>17524752
>imagine spending IH money on plastic.

>>17525170
nice, I just got an rgt denim supply jacket

SEXOOOOOOO

>>17512582
I was sold after my first pair
you get what you pay for, but I can only speak for the denim pants
can be a bitch to break in though, and the heavier weight denim isn't ideal for hot climates
wish I had some good pictures of mine but I gave both pairs to my friend when I was fat
tldr iron heart worth price