/fa/ - Fashion

boots?

>>17504758
the medalle dor reno

An anon a while ago said that tlb artista were some of the best dress shoes you could buy for the money. I'm wondering what makes them better than the basic line? They dont seem like too much more but there is different leather options and I dont really know what the difference is. I'd like to get a somewhat casual shoe like pic related, chukka or chelseas in the future

>>17504752
>B*ckwhore

>>17504776
Real leather heel counter, nicer heel and edge finishing. That's about it, no difference in leather across the range as far as I know.

>>17504773
Does it work on both brown and black?

>>17504800
only works on grey, sorry

>>17504800
yes but you keep your applicator brushes segregated because reno can strip and transfer colour on aniline dyed leathers

>>17504563 #
So if I were to get the classic Turnout boot with the leather outsole (and leather insole) and have a cobbler install a rubber half sole, would I be making the right choice? Obviously it’s by personal choice and the value I perceive so it mag be a stupid question. I just like the way they look and their historic reputation, but it seems to me, the way you describe it, they’ve raised their prices and dropped their quality, which quite honestly sucks. Seems like this is happening everywhere for anything short of $1000 USD.

I wanted to get one of those PNW US all leather boots but they all look too try-hard and rustic, none of them give off a vibe of subtle quality and clean lines. RMW and the classic Australian Chelsea seemed to fill that void.

Any other brands you could recommend for that style of casual Chelsea boot that’s preferably made in a developed nation? Should I just go with a Harold’s?

Unrelated question, but does anyone own a pair of these for actual work? I’m in automotive and I usually wear Timberlands but I’d like to move on to something more durable and recraftable. I wish they made these in a full grain so they’d be easier to clean up and waterproof every few weeks.

>>17504850
Do t know if you need steel toes in your line of work, but my full grain boots always get torn after a few weeks. leather like you pic would go unproved and actually be better for work boots in my experience

>>17504850
roughout is actually preferable to smoothouts

>>17504856
The rules are loose and I prefer a soft toe for a number of reasons, I take precautions always so I’m not worried there. Can I waterproof roughout or will it not take?

>>17504872
it will take but it will flatten the nap and make it look like pic related

>>17504761
id?

>>17504872
>Can I waterproof roughout or will it not take?
Look at waxed flesh boots, that's what it is

>>17504875
Honestly fine with it. Reminds me of nubuck. Thank you.

>>17504792
Thank you sir. Now I just have to decide what type of shoes I'm most comfortable wearing. I want a shoe that I love

>>17504891
if you ever have doubts about how PNW boots fit, you can always fly to spokane.
it's a bit of a drive to Scappoose and see Wesco, but it's doable. And Truman isn't far off at that point

Anyone bought from Meermin before?

I really like the look of these pennyloafers. Leather seems like decent quality and theyre goodyear welted.

>>17504975
better than th*rsday but theyre apparently very hard

https://oakstreetbootmakers.com/field-boot-black-chromexcel-vibram-700-cork-sole

when does oak street restock because good lord i need one of these in size 11

>>17504876
https://fracap.it/customize/configure/4216/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjEQRWN4hXY

https://youtu.be/bpwVLWMZVSA
The Carmina YouTube woman’s voice is hot

>>17504975
from what i've seen, they're good shoes with a hellish break-in period

do you guys use boot trees for your boots, or do you just use a shoe tree?

>>17505054
shoe tree

>>17504850
i suggest thorogoods

>>17504850
I'd like to know more about these, but also the moc-toe version with a wedge sole since I think that would be better on concrete.

>>17505069
forgot pic

>>17504934
I don't think Truman lets people come to the factory

Redpill me on vegano leather over boxcalf, I can’t find anything on it on google except Carmina’s website
Apparently it’s just boxcalf minus the very last step and somehow that changes it?

>>17504998
very nice

>>17505580
vegano is just sans top finish. it makes the leather very very quick and easy to patina

>>17504776
Artista has different lasts, they look more sleek and refined.
Artista uses leather heel stiffeners (hard to find at this price)
Artista has very narrow beveled waists - this makes the shoe look very good but it can also cause gapping. I'm not sure this is a positive.
You can ask them to make Artista with normal waist.

>>17504998
should the gap between the two uppers, where the tongue gets visible be this big?

>>17505657
Tight fitting uppers is a sign of a custom-fitted boot.
No mass production boot should have tight uppers, because it would fit less people and defeat the purpose of mass production

so yes, mock anyone with a wide tongue for wearing being too poor to afford bespoke boots.

>>17505657
closed facing is ok for eurotrash city slickers, with a closed gap its harder to move on inclines, its why the PNW boots have much wider gap for actually working in

>>17505644
What do you mean by gapping?

>>17505657
entirely dependent on pattern

Hypothesis: 8 inch boots hamper even basic ankle mobility too much, even things like squatting down

>>17505719
yeah but if youre wearing 8 inch boots youre trying to limit ankle mobility

>>17505719
First day with your boots? Break the tongue in. it's fine on my 10"ers.
We do clown tricks in this boots. honk honk

>>17505680
cope

>>17505657
ok buy how do I steal those country boots?

>>17505793
holy fuck i thought i was the only one who did squats in smokejumpers

accidentally consumed a bit of reno

>>17505793
double kilties? also a weird way to tie them
whats up with that?

>>17505880
Yeah. I put the spare in for extra insulation when my feet were getting cold and haven't taken it out yet. maybe it does something maybe it's placebo.
pic (not mine) is the tie for the kiltie but you can tie it more carefully to avoid the twisting

>>17505896
wouldn't that make the bottom eyelet impossible to tighten?

>>17505910
doesn't seem like it. bottom eyelet still connects underneath
the only change is that the second to bottom eyelet pulls up on the kiltie too so it can't slip down as much.

re:arch support
is it as important if you have flat feet?

>>17505954
more important

Guys give me good boot recommendations that won't go out of style in the next few years if possible? I'm fashion retarded. I also really need some help dressing well. Any resources? Used to have a girl for this and she'd help me look good but she got married and it's inappropriate to ask her now. I'm 6'4 and not fat of that matters. A real long legged monstrosity

Thanks I'll actually use your advice if you offer any

>>17505880
>>17505896
>>17505910
forester here
you lace your kiltie that way to avoid it from shifting around while working
it secures them more tightly so you don thave to worry about them
also the guy holding the kettlebell is a poser, i have NEVER seen somebody wear 2 kilties at once, also he laces them like somebody who has never worked in the woods. 123 lacing literally lmaoing at your life

>>17505966
just look at the division road bulletins, its all you need

https://divisionroadinc.com/blogs/bulletin

>>17505960
Really? I didn't know that.
Which boots have the best arches, then?

>>17505984
W H I T E S are right

>>17505984
Whites are the real answer, because they approach boots like they're pediatric devices. It's frustrating because they're ugly boots but they fit so well.

>>17505996
>>17505988
Is there a way to find out how much arch I need? I have RWs and they gave me inserts for my boots to counteract my problems. It seems to work out very nicely.

>>17505988
Love how White's hides the c*lastic in their promo boots

Are crocket and jones boots good? I was initially going to go with loake with are almost half price but if the difference is massive I'm happy to pay more. Need some versatile comfy boots and hopefully no reddit shit.

>>17506059
Loake used to (still does?) make their "Lifestyle" range in India, so I'm skeptical of everything they offer.
Even if it's made in England, who are the workers and how much are they being paid?

Nothing wrong with Loakes. Make sure there's a return policy for if they're flawed or a bit wonky.

does anyone else worry about oil/polish getting on the corners of cuffed pants, or denim blue bleeding onto leather, that they cannot wear boots without keeping a very high cuff? trying to get over this. and before you say "wear other pants" or "keep polishing until no more color comes out" these are both bad answers.

>>17505678
i disagree, if the uppers close tightly early on, the leather cannot stretch AT ALL or the boots will be too loose.

>>17505966
Some sort of service or military type boots

>>17505967
Sorry for buying American country boots for trails. How do you lace yours an why?

>>17506059
If i had to pick one maker for the rest of my life it would be C&J, top quality at the best non-sale value out there.

>>17506207
i will not tell you how i lace them because i think it's funny to see people fuck it up
pic related, my 2 pairs of loggers before cleaning

>>17506207
>>17506242
and after
real ones can tell which brand is which

>>17506211
thanks anon, I'm gonna head to one of their London stores and try some boots.

>>17506242
if you say so. Not like you're ladder lacing with speed hooks

>>17506266
>he doesn't know
it's okay anon, enjoy your trails!

>Semi-dresses in my size are in stock
I heard good things about this and I'm that flat foot anon. Pull the trigger or wait until Father's day?

>>17506272
a boot in hand is worth more than anything else

>>17506266
Look up 2-1-3 lacing. It makes bluecollarfags mad.

>>17506280
what in tarnation

>>17506283
Yep.
On your diagram, see how Left 3 skips up to Right 5?
Right 5 are the laces around the ankle, so we call it "2" instead.
Then it goes back to Left 4 ("1") and then up to Right 6 ("3")

If the old salts are being too mean and you can't figure it out, you can always do it trve hiker style and just skip the first lace hook entirely :^)
Not like they can tell once your gaiters are on.

>>17506304
>all that overlap
sounds like a hotspot waiting to happen

>>17506306
So don't cross your laces in the area that's chaffing. Easy. Don't tell me you're doing military lacing because the bite scares you that bad.

What is the feeling of a sore spot at the outside edge of the joint of my big toe? A general shoe question because all of my footwear does it.

2-1-3 isn't allowed in the barracks. Fix your boots, cadet.

>>17506323
c*lastic

>>17506323
Arthritis or bone spurs. Don't waste your money on cortisol shots, they're too expensive and temporary. Ask if there's a bone spur causing it bc that can be sanded down.

>>17506323
no seriously try a pair of unstructured footwear and you'll notice the sore spot going away

>>17506207
>Rose Anvil packer boots for trails

Don’t tell me you’re that reddit nigger’s race traitor brother with mulatto freak spawn instead of a child.

>>17506326
This seems like larp and not very dressy

>>17506280
>>17506283
>>17506304
>>17506306
>>17506313
holy shit you are both fucking retarded
>eyelets normal
>begin lace at the 2nd hook up
>go back down to the first hook
>return to hook 3 and continue like normal
the reason you do it is to provide additional ankle mobility while also minimising white's bite
no it doesnt create a hotspot, you can do 3 1 2 or 1 3 2 if it feels uncomfortable
dont use the eyelets at the top, they are a noobtrap. i personally wrap my laces and tuck them rather than make a bow because it just gets caught on everything assuming you tuck your pants into your boots to minimise ticks
>>17506326
>straightlacing your boots
dont forget to put on your cute little uniforms every time someone kills themselves and you have to walk around the playground and sing together at your secret base

this is why people laugh at the workwear larpers. you have literally zero experience in the woods or working for a living and you buy high end pnw logger boots to walk to your ebike. do you also have to ask 4channel on how to cuff your brand new doublefronts?

Where's the anon who has Yanko derby boots? How wide are they? I see they are F width by default but on what end of F is that?

>>17505642
Thanks, so if I want to minimize the chance of getting an ugly crease, I should choose boxcalf over vegano?

>>17506438
yeah their box calf is from d'annonay, which should crease in a fine manner

>>17506434
F is standard UK width

>>17506444
OKay, thanks.

>>17506410
>you can't buy good boots because....you just can't okay? I'm the bluecollarfaggot, I earned this!
Do you also encourage people to support shitty bootmakers because they "don't need good boots for their job anyway" ? Logically, you should. But it puts the market in bind.

Anyway, happy posting to you. Hope the lung cancer doesn't kill you.

>>17506503
no, i suggest people purchase boots more aligned with the needs they will encounter rather than clogging up the queue for people who actually need the boots. white's makes many "lifestyle" boots, which are not cringe for people to wear out and about
>blue collar lung cancer etc.
i make $54/hr as a union forester. overtime is double rate. i am given a truck and all of my gear is free. i do not have to do anything after my shift ends, the SECOND it hits 3:30pm i am in my truck driving to the gym before going home
im sure your job is great and i'm happy for you, you should also not wear forestry boots because you look like a retard when you have to ask people how to tie your shoes lmaoo

>>17506509
If forestry boots means black w/ fire & ice or caulk sole, you're the only one with those boots. Seems like your chasing a boogeyman claiming it'll clog up the queue.
For that matter, what would a forestry worker know about how a bootmaker organizes their labor for their four (five?) lines of boot, depending how how you want to count Grande Ronde series since they're made in Europe.

>>17505896
I was a wildland firefighter for 10 years and can confirm nobody actually does that.

>guy puts one (1) extra kiltie in his boot
>everyone gets mad
for the record it would improve insulation because more layers = more insulation

>>17506518
>forestry boots = caulks or rescue vibrams
lol
all of the pnw loggers boots routinely put out notices for loggers/firefighters/etc. that there will be huge lead times due to more and more people wanting boots. now i dont know about you, but it's not like logging has exploded in popularity in the past few years. you know what has exploded in popularity? random deskfags who want white's to larp in.
>what would a forestry worker know about logging boots
seethe, dumb cunt. white's has been around for a long, long time. we have been buying their boots the entire while, and the lead times have NEVER been this bad, and it's 100% because of larplords like you

post boots and hole

>>17506526
Kilties are a waste anyway. Extra weight and it's not like anything will actually damage the tongue.

>>17506529
yeah they are really heavy, my feet ACHE after sitting in them all day

>>17506528
So you're a union man who is upset that the local bootmaking industry has exploded in popularity and therefore profit? You brag about making $53 and hour but god forbid some other local makes good money.

>>17506526
it's one retard with a chip on his shoulder

>>17506531
no, i am laughing at the larpers who buy white's/etc. and literally unironically do not know how to tie their own fucking shoes
people who need these boots already have them, or are close to a store that carried them in person
>white's increasing price = cobbler makes more money
dumb cunt, work another shift at taco bell to afford a local community college economics course

No one agrees on kilties, it's all personal preference.

>>17506540
>people who need these boots already have them, or are close to a store that carried them in person
So why does the lead time matter? You're looking for things to get angry about.
>economics course
Well shit, if White's is asking their cobblers to make more boots without increasing their pay, shouldn't they go on strike?

>>17506541
can I put kilties on my trickers?

>>17506541
i found it easier to remove sticks from my laces with the kiltie, as they would only be wedged between the leather rather than scuffing up the laces or getting tangled in the fibres
>>17506545
because the nfpa boots will run out of stock and people will have to wait for them, or wait for their size etc. just because a store stocks something doesn't mean they dont run out lmao
>why dont they go on strike if white's is making them work more without increasing pay
you are so ignorant it's wild. they aren't making them work harder, hence the backlog. as the seasonal demand gets worked through, the backlog diminishes. i'm sure they have hired additional cobblers as well, but the demand has skyrocketed. thus, they increase prices in an effort to ease demand. since demand kept up, they continued to increase the prices again and again. when I bought my first pair of smokejumpers they were ~$350 after tax. they are now currently double that in just a few years. work a second extra shift and pay for some tutoring as well

>>17506528
>>forestry boots = caulks or rescue vibrams
>lol
I went to the Work tab in the drop down and clicked on the first thing that looked like yours. Fire & Ice sole.
Unless you bought a Farmer/Rancher in black, I dunno what you're working in.

>>17506553
i'm laughing at you because you very obviously don't know shit and are just trying to yank things off of white's website, and it's funny
like why do you even want to wear pnw loggers boots? you clearly dont work in the woods, dont know anything about the boots themselves, and dont care about anything related to the people who wear them
why dont you just wear blundstones or thursdays? genuinely asking

>>17506551
I seriously doubt the larpers are buying smokejumpers.

>>17506558
>why dont you just wear blundstones or thursdays? genuinely asking
Why give money to shit companies?

>>17506559
i wanted a pair of caulks resoled and talked to the head cobbler of white's on the phone. he told me that it would be about 8 months before they would be able to do the job because demand for the smokejumpers was through the roof
>>17506562
okay, why don't you wear solovairs or tecovas or fucking whatever. why white's/nick's/jk's/frank's/etc.? it's so cringe dude you are literally unironically the type of person who buys arcteryx and north face but has never seen snow or grabbed a rock before. how are you this oblivious to your embarrassing actions

I just wanted to hike, bros

>>17506565
>solovairs
>good brand
And Tecovas is more interested in becoming a fashion brand. It's only a matter of time before they open a shop in NYC.

>>17506567
everyone is mad this is great

>>17506565
>because demand for the smokejumpers was through the roof
Hasn't there been a massive uptick in forest fires lately?

>>17506567
anyways is that really the collab with the cut in half man or just a setup that looks similar?

>>17506573
Yeah, thanks to parasite false jews and various foreign + state actors deliberately causing destruction in the United States. Have you not seen the list of food production plants being deliberately sabotaged and destroyed?

>>17506569
yeah man white's is the only brand that makes good boots
clown
>>17506573
your average usfs peon isn't buying leather nfpa boots, they get some danner pronghorn bullshit or whatever their local store has because they cant afford to wait 8 months for a pair of boots
additionally, there were like zero fires this past season. from where does the demand come from if there are no fires?

>>17506567
>hiking in loggers
why not just get a pair of trailrunners? people wear loggers because they have to crash through brush for 8 hours a day, using them to walk on a trail or step up onto a rock occasionally is a terrible waste
pavement princess of boots

>>17506583
whats wrong with surplus to requirements

>>17506584
looks goofy + is objectively less comfortable for hiking
i highly doubt you are using the heel to dig into 100% slope to spin a prism or cut a line or set a block. it's similar to people using their lifted 2500 cummins to drive to trader joes. i'm sure the person driving it thinks it's badass but every other person around them thinks they look like a retarded faggot, with whatever perceived gains being negligible or even detrimental

>>17506569
>Tecovas is more interested in becoming a fashion brand

their quality control has plummeted over the past year or so

>>17506586
excess is american exceptionalism

>>17506590
very cool comment, anon

>>17506583
I was divided between the packer and the rancher. I am in the Southwest so trails are hard and flat.
Those both lifestyle boots anyway which you said are for me.
>>17506576
Look. I went to White's when that was on the front page. See above, it managed to fit right between the packer and rancher for what I wanted. 4811 has higher arch than the packer's 690, but is lower than the rancher's 695.
Packer vs logger heel, either is fine but taller heel can be shortened later and the Frank's boot maker said taller heels are better for walking in. And being 10" instead of 8", sure.
Fits my needs without being a custom order, and the red dog leather seemed fine. I don't like it so much anymore. British tan or tobacco would have been better.

I am not putting the pouch pocket on. That thing is dumb.

>>17506597
care to post more pics of them? we get a ton of smokejumpers and semi dress but not packers

>>17506597
>red dog leather seemed fine. I don't like it so much anymore
why is that?

>>17506597
just so you know, packer boots are a style of boot designed to be worn inside stirrups. this is equipment for riding horses. if you wear them to walk around in you will literally develop musculoskeletal disorders in your feet. they are marketed as lifestyle boots because being a cowboy is a lifestyle. a crepe sole would be better suited for hard surfaces
>>17506601
in my experience, red dog leather looks really cheap and artificial as it ages compared to black and brown leathers. all of it should have been fully dyed through, so it won't really fade or rub off, but red leathers just look washed out and shitty over time and it's harder to get that glow after an oiling

>>17506598
it is the smokejumper last, just has the packer heel. marks on the heels are from scraping down rocks. oops. I only have colorless shoe cream so they're going to be visible for a bit
>>17506601
scuffs very easy

>>17506613
>scuffs very easy
get full roughout next time, minor cuts and such don't show much at all

>>17506528
You make an excellent point ngl
There is zero reason for people to have logger boots unless they're just forest tromping and don't want ticks, but that's about it. definitely not smokejumpers for that matter.

That said, which boots do you wear?

>>17506615
i have a pair of smokejumpers from white's, a pair of non-nfpa loggers from nick's, a pair of spring heel caulks from white's, and a pair of rubber caulks from viking for when it's raining
i prefer the smokejumpers, but they are in need of a resole (will take 8 months because of larpers taking up the fucking queue), but the nicks are alright. if i am working in an area that isn't road or rock i use the caulks

>>17506615
He doesn't. He's larping and is another fag that just sits at a desk and jerks off the whites/nicks porn. How do I know? Because he actually thinks blue collar men would waste money buying shitty fashion boots and not utilitarian chink made shit for $100. The only people that actually think blue collar workers care about their boots are the people that larp as them.

>>17506604
By my measure, the packer is a 1 3/8" heel. I'm familiar with the tall heel for stirrups and the problems of walking around those. These are lower than that.
>crepe sole on a dusty trail
Are you pulling my leg?

>>17506629
dumb cunt
$100 chinkshit wouldnt last in the woods worth a fuckall, people in the industry actually wear the same boots people have been wearing out here for 200 years
every fucking time a new tech goes out and buys some pronghorns, everyone tells them they will blow out in a month. "oh no the guy at the shop said they are good, youtube said they are great amazing value, you'll see i take care of my boots!!!"
blown out in a month, every time. every fucking time. then what happens? they have to wait months for a pair of smokejumpers while seething over their precious danners being in tatters while everyone else laughs at them

>>17506629
>>17506645
post pics of your boots and jobsite, im really curious where you work, anon!

>has not posted boots
curious

>>17506528
if the concern is taking away from workers, would even getting their lifestyle boots work because it would be taking away time from their normal operations, no?

>>17506655
Stop buying White's. Thanks in advance.

>>17506655
they are churning out smokejumpers nonstop due to demand either way, many of their non-work boots are premade in sizes and ready to ship
>>17506658
post boots you retarded larping faggot

>>17506658
done

>>17506659
I guess that makes sense
I just don't get why smokejumpers are the hot new thing and not something everyman like say, semi-dresses

>>17506663
i would imagine because the smokejumper costs less than the cutter, while still letting you flex about how rugged and cool you are. having a full boot is badass and tough, having a normal shoe is less so

caulks

>>17506645
I miss burning giant slash piles every Spring

>>17506710
horse?

>>17506711
Yeah, teacore. Just picked these lofgrens up last week. Undoubtedly the best fitting last I've ever worn

>>17504752
what's the best bang-for-buck boot that I can get at a local boot shop (not exactly sure what brands they have, but probably timberland and mainstream work boot brands)
i'm looking for something kind of casual that can also be used for work
how much should i look at spending? i spend 159 on some timberlands and like them, i'm thinking i'm good with less than 300

>>17506718
look up the nearest redwing store or find a store that sells thorogoods or carolinas. you will usually find those brands in any store.

>>17506718
sure get timbs
you might have a red wings store around or maybe a retailer for thorogood or carolinas. Keeping it under 300 might be tough but how's 350?

>>17504752
not directly boot related, but I slathered on a bunch of waterproofer on a nice pair of Oxfords and want to remove it - will acetone and a washcloth do the job?

>>17506720
>>17506721
red wing/thorogood/carolina mind

>>17506723
I'm glad no one tried shilling wolverines since they're a chinese company now.

>>17506722
do not acetone your boots. leather is skin, that's like trying to acetone your hands.

get some saddlesoap, don't let it soak in, wash out immediately. if it's REALLY harsh stuff, some dish soap should do it, prepare to recondition with saphir if its really baked in there and it takes out a bunch of moisture when you wash them.

>>17506724
i own some of the wedge-soled 1000 miles and honestly they're a great boot but boy did I have to work to make them good boots with tons of cream, wax, and polish, the two shoes weren't even from the same hide.

for the effort i put in? nah i'd go with a thorogood or carolina any day of the week.

>>17506718
red wing if you up your budget to 350

>>17506722
what kind of waterproofer? silicone based? you're fucked

Now the schizo doesn’t like silicone?

>>17506747
there was a big shitfit over bickmore so now he's aligned against silicone products of all sorts.

>>17506747
He doesn't like anything boot or boot accessory related, especially not the products you own.

>>17506722
>acetone
First use a shoe brush with ordinary soap and warm water.
If it does not work, use some mild degreaser.
If it does not work, use vodka or 95% alcohol.

>>17506722
>>17506779
>mild degreaser
e.g. white spirit

>>17506722
>>17506725
>saddlesoap
That's a marketing gimmick.
Normal bar soap or even liquid soap works fine on leather. Just rinse it well afterwards.

Wash with your normal shoe brush, then dry she shoes and the brush in a cool place, better if in the open air.
Then condition.

>>17505714
This is gapping

I own a pair of TLB artistas (not loafers) and they have this issue no matter how much I tighten the laces
I think the narrow waist means your foot is pushing down on the leather

>>17506801
oof

The amount of seething in here is great. This dude is actually upset someone is culturally appropriating his workin mayns booyies like a fucking woman.

m77 from varusteleka
good thing is how generous the toe fit is, without making it bulbous

>>17506645
I have cheap Woodland boots that are over a decade old (cheaper than $100 anyway) I've done farmwork climbed mountains and just walking around in rural mountainous areas
Every year I think this year they're definitely over but they keep going the soles have turned completely smooth and I can't even find a similar sole to replace
Gets kinda weird when it's wet though the leather or 'leather'

>>17506732
It looks like it's beeswax based
>>17506725
Thank you, I'm glad I asked before ruining them further - I'll try washing it off with soap and a cloth

>>17506720
>>17506721
>>17506729
Thanks for the recs; I think I'm gonna go with Carolinas, as they look like they'd hold up well in the area I live (rural, forest, dirt roads, lots of gravel). Red wings look cool, but the color of Iron Rangers I like is out of stock in my size, and I don't think I can justify spending $350 on them

>>17506551
Ah I can tell you're full of shit. My White's I bought in 2017 were $465, so there's no way you paid $350 a few years ago for a pair of proper hand welted smokejumpers.

>>17506821
>”guys how do i tie my shoes”
>lol retarded faggot
>”y-you’re just mad!!!”
lol retarded faggot

>>17507114
he slimy

>>17507116
he sleepy

>>17506801
Oh fugg, that's awful. Thanks for the heads up

>>17507114
>Hurr you're lacing ur boots wrong!#
>What do you mean? How do you lace yours?
>Hurr you're dumb only I'm smart enough to lace boots because I work outside!!
What a stupid butthurt faggot

Good thread as always, keep it up you guys!

>>17506910
light liquid detergent and water in a 50/50 should work

>>17507114
i think your dog has autism

>>17507264
rope

leather gaiters i made to handle the brush in the field
worked amazingly well, ended up selling them to coworkers too

A few threads back I told here that I sent my boots to a cobbler to get the sole stitched to the upper despite /btg/ saying it could not be done, anyway one of you fags asked to post the results so here it is.

>>17507322
lets see the top

>>17507322
>not possible
why would people think it isn’t possible when people sell boots with the soles stitched?

>>17507322
Wait, how are those stitched directly to the upper?
Aren't they stitched to like a welt or something?

>>17507336
majority of cobblers only glue topies on woman's high heels

>>17505070
I've got a pair and I'm a bridge inspector. They've held up in the winter really well but I don't too much actual labor.

>>17507323
There's nothing to see from the top, you can only see the stitches inside the boot.

>>17507351
It goes directly through the upper and insoles.
>Muh water leakage
Literally just apply some sealant and you're gucci.

>>17507374
lets see the inside then

>>17507280
>No response because he knows he's a stupid faggot
Sounds about right, stay mad bubba. Nobody is impressed that you know how to lace up your boots and walk in the woods, some of us have to use our brains for a living.

Anybody have experience with sanders chukkas? I want to larp as steve mcqueen.

>>17507393
>working in the woods requires no brains
a B.Sc is required to be considered for hiring
use GIS on the daily and harvest modelling projects 50 years into the future, adjacency requirements and HCP constraints only complicates this
i agree that spraying trees is easy, bummer that’s not what forestry is!!

>>17507322
>despite /btg/ saying it could not be done,
I literally told you you can Blake stich any shoe

>>17507423
just because you can don't mean you should. you've now punched a bunch of holes in the insole where there shouldn't be a bunch of holes that both introduces a direct path for water but also compromising the integrity of the insole

i'm certain you'll say hurr durr punching a bunch of holes through something doesn't affect it

>>17507412
Sanders are comfy but the crepe model can’t be re-soled.

>>17507412
not a fan of the sole

>>17507453
Fuark those look nice. How long have you had them? Shame about the sole but I kind of figured. I wonder if I'm better off going with meermin for about the same price. Not the same, but resolable. Dont know what the next step up from that would be.

>>17507374
>It goes directly through the upper and insoles.
So blake stitch?

>>17507423
The original conversation was had in November or December, people were saying it could not be done and at least one guy was starting to seethe.

>>17507375
You can barely see but here it is.

>>17507424
>Integrity
Lol if anything it got more stable, the cobbler used waxed thread too which by itself is good when dealing with water. And even if leaked I would just fill the channel, the guy opened to be able to stitch, with some silicone sealant.

>>17507518
Pretty much, only difference was the added channel through the sole lugs form him to be able to do it.

pic is stitching through the boot after 2 years of field use
why did your cobbler cut a huge channel through everything lmao just looked at your picture again

>>17507513
I’ve had them for ~6 years. I haven’t worn them much though for the past year or so though. Sanders has GYW chukka models but I have not owned them. Next step up would be Church’s, Alden, or C&J. They make the best looking chukkas imo. Pic related are my Moltons.

>>17507554
I think it makes sense, that way threads aren't in direct contact with the floor.
Yours also have screws so there's that extra fixation point.

>>17507536
fucking yikes why is that interior so disgusting looking

>>17507593
It's fine, the debris you see are from trampling all over vegetation when /out/ hiking.
I would prefer a leather lining but it has some meme waterproof membrane.

>>17507602
and why is there a zigzag stitch down the middle, what boots are those

>>17507424
>i'm certain you'll say hurr durr punching a bunch of holes through something doesn't affect it
I didnt say it was a good idea o said it was possinle

ID on these?

What do

>>17507621
That's the lining, it's like a full sock. Patagonia tin shed, they're work boots.

>>17507703
PFFFFT your guy stitched the liner to your outsole?

More boots like this with fur optics? These are unfortunately sold out. I dress pretty classically but I don’t want to look like a boomer, at risk of looking like a faggot, so I spice my outfits up with various animal textures or ethnic motifs
I had to that effect these western style boots with a mongol motif (not actual Asians boots, a real western boot cut) once, and have a fully bronze (coated) belt with some tibetan elements.

>>17507714
the term you're looking for is "hair on hide"

how long does it take Whites to ship? Not a custom order or backorder, just off the shelf

>>17507679
coloured shoe cream

>>17507720
Yes, but have you ever seen it on something other than Western boots? I‘m specifically talking about these mountain boots.

>>17507733
i've seen yuketen use it on their handsewn mocs but not much else

>>17507739
So these are as unique as I think they are?
Jesus, now I must have them.

I am not just using the name in vain. I am actually praying here, God.

>>17507577
Thanks. 6 years ain't bad, even if you dont wear them often anymore. Those C&J are beautiful, but above my pay grade. Unfortunately, it seems to be hard to find places that actually carry some of these shoes where I live.

Aside: any Canadians have experience with new dacks? I think they are made by Cheney now, but with old dack lasts.

had a bum day bootgen, what are some shoes that would make me look like the opposite of an asshole?

>>17507767
>I think they are made by Cheney now, but with old dack lasts.
seems like an attempt to revive a dead brand, construction looks on par with whatever cheney produces. might be a good competitor for AE in canada

>>17507728
Stop buying White's. Thanks in advance.

>>17507712
Yeah but the zigzag stitch is OG.

>>17507728
off the shelf, expect a week or two. if ordering something that isn't literally already boxed and ready to go then expect it in a few months. my caulks took like 7 months due to the backlog
>>17507806
retard

>>17507799

>>17506410
You need to take the wader pill friend. I haven't worn a leather boot in 3 years. Like walking on air, don't have to worry about lacing, ticks don't seem to cling to them as easily. Only cons are they're hot as shit and tear up easy in briars. I just buy a new set every month or 2.

>>17506710
>>17506711
>>17506712
I thought they were Lofgrens in Shinki teacore as well. Really nice.

I have a pair of Alden as my only black boot which double as formal shoes outside of my issued kit for work. I can't really justify a second pair of black footwear but these a definitely a pair I considered.

>>17507949
At the end of the day, could you justify getting even just one high end boot? I'm sure there are noticeable differences in the quality of the leather, last, and sole to justify getting another black boot. The lofgrens are teacore, so that in and of itself is going to be a world of difference. If it makes you feel awesome, get it.

>>17507911
why would i buy waders which you seem to replace every 2 months while avoiding brush, when i have to constantly go through brush and my boots dont get torn up
white's are quite comfortable once they've been broken in

>>17507998
because he wants you to COOOOONSSSSSSSSOOOOOM

>>17507903
> if ordering something that isn't literally already boxed and ready to go then expect it in a few months.
I have no idea. It was a one of their suede derbies that was on closeout. So I would assume already boxed maybe?

>>17508002
why don't you, uh, just send them an email

>>17508010
I mean, I guess I could do that, it would be the normal person thing to do.

>>17508002
yeah probably

Can these look good outside of the normal menswear and workwear trends? I like the look of chukkas by themselves but never see any fits I like with them.

>>17508090
Depends, are you hindoo?

>>17508095
No, my name is joseph

cxl is a shit woorkboot leather and im tired of pretending its not

>>17508113
Your suggestion then?

>>17508133
Horsehide all day. Do not settle for less unless its veg tanned cowhide

>>17508141
>muh stiff boots
There is literally nothing wrong with Seidel

>>17508146
Nigger, horsehide softens up and becomes comfortable while maintaining a higher durability compared to cowhide. It is objectively a better leather for work

>>17508153
I'm talking about how you've fallen for the veg tan meme.

>>17508113
luv unlined CXL, might be because the creasing on my 'bergs is so perfect that i really don't mind it.

>>17508171
its a lottery

Is it blake stitch?

>>17508237
probably
>harness boot
larping as a homo?

>>17508241
no, homos usually wears similar to those:
>>17504761
>>17504850
>>17504875
>>17504998
>>17505550
>>17505070
>>17505793
>>17505896
>>17505988
>>17505975
>>17506242
>>17506243
>>17506410
>>17506710
>>17507322

>>17508133
calf

>>17508141
Why do I have a feeling this inbred dumb spic does not know that Horween nondescript Horsehide sold by Wh*tes is CXL.

Boots for casual snow traversal? Recently moved to NY from Georgia and all I've got is summer running shoes, I'm tired of having wet feet all the time.

>>17507679
Brush to get the dirt out
Maybe a damp cloth as well
Let it dry
Renovateur
Black shoe cream
Let it dry and brush a bit

It will be as good as new

If you want to go the extra step, black wax afterwards for extra protection and shine, but it may become too shiny

Also, AE sells black edge dressing for the sole edges. But on all black shoes you can just use black shoe polish if you can't be arsed.

>>17508560
Just get some Salomons

I acvidentally kicked a glass into pieces some cunt left in the sidewalk and now my right boot has a superficial tiny cut on the toecap.
Fucking cunts treating their own city like a landfill.
At least I wasn't wearing sneakers and my foot was unharmed.

>>17508560
>Recently moved to NY

Oh no no no no no....

>>17508990
I love guns and general freedom. Trust me, I realized I fucked up but I hate the weather of the south. Might move to PA soon.

>>17508957
OP says not to, I'm a sheep

>>17508560
red wing iron rangers or blacksmiths

>>17509010
Move somewhere like Freedom, NH. Quiet, small Christian town in the northeast. Pretty much ideal for me.

>>17509012
The OP is a meme.

I own a pair of the chore boot and love them. They are very comfortable. However i will say that sometimes i dont need to wear them cause im not doing work that requires a thick sole. Theres a clearance going on currently for whites boots. Is there something like the chore boot but much lighter in weight so im comfortable running?

https://shop.whitesboots.com/closeout/
New

>>17509152
literally 3 boots left

whitesbros not like this

>>17509326
>be gypsy, a clumsy retard
>kick the pavement stones
>kick the outdoors while hiking
>cut the outsole stitch
>hurr durr its not my retarded gait

>>17509326
>it's a patina thunderdome pair
opinion discarded

the dude got these completely soaked through on a regular basis in rain and snow
absolute genius got rubber half soles for a "hiking" boot, which are glorified leather soles with toppies
then he kicked every rock on the trail for muh epic patina until the toe started delaminating, at wich point he did absolutely nothing but continue to soak the soles through

>>17504752
https://youtu.be/HzKmtm2MI64

>>17509393
>drying your soaked through boots under the radiator
geez, i wonder how the glue failed

>>17509404
pic related

>>17509369
>>17509393
Cope and Seethe

new btw

>>17509446
those were definitely tried on and returned

>>17509488
no they just look like that

Enzo Bonafè has some really nice designs

>>17509446
ugliest chukka ive seen, ever maybe.

>>17509592
i think>>17509558
is worst

i'm going to buy these, but how do i style them? i work in IT if that matters t. literal fashion retard

>>17509647
why would you buy something you don't know how to style? are you just gonna hope its gonna work out?

>>17509648
this is sadly how a lot people get into fashion, they get a nice piece of clothing/accessories and start to build around it.

>>17509655

>>17509595
braindead nigger doesn't even know what chukkas are, no wonder you like those shitters lol

>>17509648
Sometimes you see a deal and you have to take it.

>>17509647
Don't act like you're better than your coworkers, they'll hate you for it .

>>17509660
well can't wear jeans with those so you're gonna be wearing a lot of chinos. no browns

>>17509673
I'm not the person you think I am.

I've bought blue loafers on a whim because they were leather and on sale

>>17509675
it sounds like you're cooooooonssooooming for the sake of doing so. find out the underlying psychological reason and it'll stop

>>17509668
i don’t though, should i just buy black golf pants and a few different colored polos?

>>17509685
This is you? Sure, red polos are effay.

>>17509679
That's easy. There's a massive void in my life and I'm extremely lonely. I want to find love and companionship and I want to share my life with someone, but I find that I keep failing to achieve the only thing I find important in life.

As a result, what what originally yet another way to improve myself and be more desirable turned into a coping mechanism to fill that void, because no matter how much I improve myself it still seems like I am never enough.

I'm deeply lonely and find myself thinking about past relationships at night not because I miss them as people, but because I miss being able to actually be myself around another human being.

>>17509695
So it’s fine? I’ve got an okay body from weightlifting, so I think black golf pants would be fine if I cut the branding off. I can’t do a bright red like that though my skin is very pale, also I don’t know a good place for polos

>>17509706
want to look like a restaurant server?

>>17509706
>also I don’t know a good place for polos
Under Armor and Ralph Lauren.
Jordan Spieth does it okay.
>>17509710
>servers
>wearing polos
do you eat at Shenanigan's? lmaoing at you
genuine hole-in-the-walls wear tshirts at best, anything nice wears button downs.

>>17509712
you're better off with ocbd

>>17509713
Ivy league is for faggots.

>>17509668
this.

how do i measure my foot properly? do i buy one of those measuring tools, what are they called? or just say fuck it and buy a boot?

>>17509860
For what last?
There are measuring guides on Whites, Nicks, Franks, but if you aren’t buying something with a high arch just use the brannock and go off of reviews if it is true to size or rubs big/ small.

>>17509860
go to a store with a brannock device if you care to know, chances are the guy doesn't know how to use it either. Just get a paper and a pen and start drawing.
https://www.crockettandjones.com/pages/fitting-guide

>>17509868
looking at nicks. i own a whites chore boot and thats a size 13. i just impulse bought it thinking itd fit and it did. i just want have accurate measurements if im going to buy an expensive boot.
>>17509869
>brannock device
thats what i was thinking about thanks

>>17509870
https://nicksboots.com/buying-guide/sizing/sizing-guide/

Best Nicks boot? Give me ideas I wanna buy

>>17509876
ridgeline

>>17509860
go to different stores to get sized on a brannock device

>>17509876
Best Nick's boot is a Frank's boot, Nick's is shit. Frank literally sold Nick's to the current owner.

>>17509876
Urban logger, urban drifter, overlander, falcon.

>>17509896
Pretty sure Frank was just the general manager.
May be wrong.

chukkas

>>17509898
You're absolutely wrong. He owned it with his brother and mother while he was managing the company.

>>17507602
A waterproof membrane that is completely useless now because you have holes that go from the ground directly to your foot. You can't wear these if it's wet at all now.

>>17509995
but you see we told him it was impossible to so that so were btfo

>>17509896
Like i said, drop a name.

>>17509995
no you don't understand! the cobbler waxed the thread!

I need help fitting myself for pic related. How do i go about it? Would getting my usual boot size be fine? This boot actually has sizes 12.5 and 13.5 which is why im wondering.

>>17510463
>>17510463
>>17510463

NEW NEW NEW

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>>17510463
>>17510463

NEW NEW NEW

>>17509896
>formerly chuck's