/fa/ - Fashion

Can you guys recommend me some leather dress shoes? I assume it's not that different from looking for a good pair of leather boots.

>>17486381
low tier
>allen edmonds on sale
>meermin
mid tier
>alden
>carmina
high tier
>crockett and jones
>enzo bonafe
>edward greene

can I wear Doc Martens without looking cringe and/or like a nazi?

>>17486385
Would swap c&j and Carmina desu

>>17486388
>carmina higher tier than c&j

>>17486387
why would you buy doc martens instead of solovair?

>>17486389
Yes

>>17486397
yeah solovair are great but idk i think i'm such a sucker for the doc's yellow stitching lol -- but you're right, going solovair is prob a good way of getting that look while not looking like a total chud

>>17486389
Carminas are excellent. I own two pairs and they were flawless

>>17486381
When it comes to dress shoes, TLB Artista is unbeatable for the price.
Great quality, great materials, great lasts.

What sets them apart from other brands around the same price level is the leather heel stiffeners (on artista models only), and practically flawless finishing.

If you browse through their models you'll quickly realize they do not have many options for casual models, but are almost entirely focused on making dress shoes.

>>17486385
Low tier is stuff made decently but made in the third world.
Stuff like Allen Edmonds, Grant Stone, Meermin, even Thursdays. Obviously there's no comparison between GS and Thursdays for example.

Mid tier is stuff made decently in the West competing at the lowest price point possible.
Carmina, TLB, C&J benchgrade, Carlos Santos etc plus all the house brands of various retailers that are made by anonymous factories in Spain (e.g. Skolyx, Cavour, Skoak, J.Fitzpatrick etc).

High tier are shoemakers trying to do something a little more special than just the basics.
For example Bonafe, Yeossal, C&J Hangrade etc.
This is where you start to find handwelted shoes.

Top tier are the bespoke makers, some of whom have RTW models. G&G, Cleverley, Meccariello, Bemer, Fukuda etc.
Edward Green gets put in this list not because their shoes are flawless like the above, or made anywhere near as well, but because of a) price and b) their shoes keep looking brand new basically forever

The jump in price from high tier to top tier is dramatic, at least twice as much as high tier

Just ordered the Lofgren Ludlow boots in Shinki Teacore Horsehide. What am I in for?

>>17486547
Looks kino to me
How will you integrate them into fits? I’m trying to make all black work but I can’t figure out how do it with my work clothes (business casual )

>>17486581
Thanks bro. I pretty much only wear regular indigo and black jeans. In my opinion, black pairs well with any other color (depending on the shade of black). I've been wearing my black horsehide mister lous with jeans and the fit looks pretty nice, so I'll likely be wearing these with jeans, white t shirt, and a daily choice of black and navy hoodies and flannels, along with a trucker hat.

>>17486387
>cringe
outside of this general nobody will care, and if they do, they'd probably compliment them
>nazi
everyone in all the political spectrum wears docs, from nazis to commies. Unless you're wearing the rest of the skinhead fit, nobody will think in those terms about wearing docs
>>17486406
the docs are more iconic than solovairs and I douby there's really thst much difference in quality between the two

>>17486591
pics of your mr lous?

Do these unisex boots look too gay? The manufacturer's men's ankle boots and regular boots only go down to size UK 7 and I'm UK 6.

>>17486612
are you like five feet

>>17486612
>Do these unisex boots look too gay?
They look pretty normal to me. A bit bland, really, doubt anybody will look twice at them.

>>17486612
They're just bland a bit chunky boots. Seem alright. I could see an older man on a street in those boots and a bunch of 20-something enbies wearing them as well

>>17486614
No I'm 5 ft 10 lmao

>>17486619
>>17486647
Okay thanks, they mainly do school shoes so makes sense their boots would be bland I guess

>>17486647
I was picturing a mall security guard

>5'10
>size 6 shoes
lmao ok dawg why do you feel the need to lie on the internet

>>17486664
I'm not lying, I just have small feet
My dad is 5 ft 6 and I fit his shoes

>>17486670
It's okay you can be ftm, I believe you

>>17486595
Yours are lookin great. How long did it take to break yours in? It took me a good 3 months to feel fully comfortable in these things

>>17486698
>that pic

>>17486471
has got it right, unless you have too much money to spend TLB Artista is unbeatable for dress shoes imo.

just copped bros

Looking at these. Waldviertler Jaga flex.
Handmade in Austria from either Italian, Spanish or German leather.
They will replace the soles for free if they wear down.
It's actually a trekking shoe, but it also looked really good on my friend.
Been wearing Dockers for a long time now but the soles are too high and they're too warm.

>>17486719
Looks like a good buy. They're €500 or so?

>>17486694
What's more likely, a 5 ft 10 ftm tranny or a guy with small feet?

>>17486735
sorry about your transition bro

>>17486698
>It took me a good 3 months to feel fully comfortable in these things
yeah thats about right

>>17486713
Hell yeah brother they're great. Love mine

>Get new boots
>Toebox is narrow
>Upgrading to a larger toebox last is about ~90 dollars on top of what I already spent
Should I do it?
Spent about ~600 so far.

>>17486845
You won't wear them if they're uncomfortable, so you may as well upgrade. Then you'll have a $690 pair of boots that you'll use, vs a $600 pair that you won't

>>17486845
just pay the extra money or return them. you won't wear them and they'll sit in your closet collecting dust otherwise

I am looking at getting some loafers that are super soft and comfy like slippers, but not actually slippers so I can wear them outside and not have to worry about babying them
Is suede a lot softer than smooth leathers? How does the flexibility compare?
My go-to shoes are uniroincally my Sperry boat shoes and they're comfy as fuck but they're not really everyday shoes so I think loafers would be more appropriate

>>17486845
you might find going unstructured in the original last a better option

>>17486878
go buy some sneakers, faggot

>>17486879
> unstructured
kinda new to this, what does this mean?

>>17486888
Never buy shoes with c*lastic in the toe. You can consider unstructured Aldens or Vibergs because they use real leather.

>>17486888
it means there isn't a stiffener used to give the toe shape. most often it's a material called Celastic, sometimes it's leather, sometimes leatherboard
unstructured toes collapse and crease. some people like the softer feel of unstructured and it will help with flexibility
>>17486892
don't listen to this retard there is literally nothing wrong with celastic but it's a bitch to break in when the heel counter (used to give the heel it's shape and structure) is celastic

>>17486895
>there is literally nothing wrong with c*lastic
Except the part where it cracks and you have a permanently deformed toe.
Don't do it. Don't buy c*lastic.

>>17486888
look at the pic, one is structured the other is unstructured, both on the White's 55 last. celastic is the plastic they use to provid the firm/rigid shame of the toe. keyword here is firm/rigid meaning unyielding so if your toes don't sit right in the celastic box you're screwed not only that but if you have tall feet you can feel the edge of the celastic at max flex when going up stairs

everyone is doing a horsebit loafer this season

>>17486896
ah yes, the 1 out of 1000 times that happens. i've been watching steve at bedos, trenton and heath and dan the cobbler for years and that doesn't happen. can't remember one time they even had the toe crumble and deform

>>17486897
>>17486895
>>17486892
Appreciate it.

>>17486899
Why would they show it? Cracked toe can't be fixed without doing a rebuild.

>>17486898
and most people fuck it up like the abomination you posted
gucci is the original but wildly overpriced and they cheap out on materials like using canvas lining. ferragamo is classic too but they cucked out and cement the soles lmao
and if a brand does do a good version of it, they use an ugly buckle or something

>>17486903
nah

>>17486902
>why would someone whose whole channel is them doing rebuilds show them doing a rebuild?
>why would some who got popular for doing repairs that were hard to do do a repair that is hard to do?
are you retarded? i know you're a troll but are you genuinely retarded? you've been at this for months, maybe even years and every time you post you never cease to amaze me with just how stupid you are

>>17486898
>>17486904
I'm convinced loaferposting is done purely to shit up /bootgen/

>>17486904
these are hideous

>>17486908
it's just that one guy

>>17486908
its people showing us their gucci loafers
next they'll be posting PNW boots in their fancy german cars

>>17486908
ok post your boots then

>just put 2 boots up for sale
>tfw i can consoom new boots soon

>>17486914
where do people sell boots these days? grailed?

>>17486913
I'll post the boots I want instead.

>>17486915
grailed, ebay, local online markets (me)
I had good success there so far.

>>17486914
how do I get into this habit of sell -> new and when is a good time to flip my boots?

entry level alternatives to turdsdays?
red wings and what else?

>>17486908
different anon but i mostly grew out of my boot phase. i think it was about a 5 year window where i bought thousands and thousands of dollars worth of boots, but now i don't care and i mostly wear loafers or derbies
boots just look so dorky unless i'm working and if i'm working i'd rather just wear beaters

>>17486920
C&J or Trickers
fuck man, lurk more. You should know this

>>17486914
>have a pair of red wings that didn't fit me that i've been meaning to sell
>got them in 2018

>>17486919
not sure, i don't really sell boots unless i decide that i don't really like them after all. I do give them a good clean and conditioning before selling to make the pictures more appealing.

>>17486924
i sold mine at like 70% msrp a while ago, i was underestimating how much of a clown boot it was.

>>17486919
Boots are a seasonal item. You can buy summer boots when the market dips in October, then offload them in May. Conversely, Winter boots are dipping by April and peaking in November.
Remember that boots from local shops work like munies: you can avoid paying federal and state sales tax by stealing them.

>>17486926
i actually like mine, they're the blacksmiths in waxed flesh which was a limited edition years back. really cool boots but just the right toebox is too tight. i guess i could try to find somewhere to get the toebox stretched but cobblers are a dead trade and there isn't one anywhere near me

>>17486928
if all you need is a few mm, buy a shoe stretcher on amazon (or have an oversized shoe tree). Mix 50/50 Water and Isopropyl, wet the surface for a few minutes, then put the mixture inside the boot and slush it around for another few minutes. Now put the shoe stretcher inside and wait at least a day. You now gained a few mm in width.

>>17486931
when you say put it inside are you referring to pouring it in and shaking it around?

>>17486932
yes

>>17486932
don't do that it'll make mustard gas

>>17486933
alright i'll give it a try

>>17486937
this is where i got it from, i used it with good success myself.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CFKVILfA0U7/?igshid=1mjjlr63q7jiv

>>17486938
>slosh alcohol in your shoes
>just trust me

>>17486939
it's not harmful if it's in small amounts and not sitting in it
it's a pretty standard technique

Do rangers really look that weird? I've gotten nothing but compliments but then again if people thought I were wearing weird clown shoes, they probably wouldn't say anything about it.

>>17486943
Depends on what you're used to, to the average guy wearing sneakers and running shoes they probably look dressy.

>>17486943
it only starts to look weird if you have something like size 13 feet because then it looks like you're wearing ronald mcdonald shoes
for most people it's fine. it's a meme here to hate on them

>>17486944
I guess I don't know what a non-clown boot looks like on someone's foot, then.
I thought Wolverine 1000 miles always looked really dressy, but I HATE the leather soles.

Best way to redye aniline dyed shoes? I wanna give it a try, should i strip the paint off first or just dye it.

>>17486950
I say that and then I go look and there's one on sale with Vibram soles and a giant RAM Truck logo on it. which may be a positive for some people.

>>17486952
strip first otherwise the dye won't hold

>>17486938
what a chaotic video

>>17486931
Do this if you want to ruin your shoes. It'll darken the leather, create stains and if it has check cork it'll be completely fucked. Don't do this >>17486938
It's better to cut your loses and move on, if a shoe don't fit it don't fit

are dark colors better for boots than light colors because it hides the creasing?

Bros recommend boots for dailying campus

>>17487071
clarks desert boots

>>17487086
brown ballsack > black ballsack

How do I size CCP tornados? I'm between a 42 and 43. Everywhere I look on the internet I can't find a decent answer. I'm American, so trying on in person is hard.

is boot stretching in any way damaging the boot? It's pulling the leather and adding tension outwards, like the boot wasn't made to be used like that?

>>17487093
ask for the insole measurements. idk why isnt this a thing in many stores

>>17487095
I'm also worried about general fit. I'm buying secondhand because tornados made to order are a lot.

>>17487098
how much do you plan on paying?

>>17486363
Thoughts?

>>17486896
Anybody has this happen to them or is it just a non-issue thst only specfags are concerned about?

>>17486892
>unstructured
>use leather
Are you having a stroke?

>>17486895
Toe stiffener is almost never leather board.

>>17486897
>I bought wrong sized clown shoes, therefore toe structure is bad.

>>17486899
>>17486907
I swear it’s literally just one guy making up wild shits to rant on celastic.
Did celastic cuck him or something?
Would have make some sense it he was ragging on celastic for heel counter (The type Meermin uses is legit painful) but his problem is with toe stiffener for some reason.

bought boots from uk, and my countries corrupt customs charged over 100eur for the tax
ordered boots from uk, and the customs charged almost 50% of my boot price for tax. i live in EU

>>17487294
fml i didn't read before Posting

>>17487083
*astorflex

grant stone sells leather sneakers now

>>17487430
Who cares?

>>17487515 <

>>17487294
bought a coat from nippon once for 700euro, got quoted almost 400euro in customs, wrote them an email to inquire how they even calculated that shit
all that fedex replied, after multiple back and forth emails of them stalling by asking for all the unnecessary details, that they already have, is "educate yourself" and linking to some eu trade documents
if you ever have the choice get delivery through DHL, they never charge customs, even if they are the most expensive delivery option it is worth because you pay less overall
also taxation is theft

>>17487622
Shouldn't the customs office send you the quote not fedex?

>>17487294
bought multiple boots from uk, never charged customs. I live in EU (post brexit)

>>17487100
1100usd below 1000 would be very nice though.

>>17487430
>start selling sneakers
>don't have an all white model

>>17487795
they'd have to paint it and they probably dont want to

>>17487858

Best way to get sticky residue off leather without ruining the finish?
I put some tongue pads in a pair so they fit better but didn't like the way they felt so took them off and now the sticky residue sticks to my hairs and rips them out

>>17487858
Mirin

>>17487863
Acetone is the thermonuclear option, it will get rid of it but it is also likely to strip the finish.
Saphir Renomat is more like a nagasaki by comparison, but it can still strip the finish or ruin "museum calf" and other odd patterns.

For me I've noticed that just good old renovateur (the conditioning cream) gets rid of just about everything, even scuffs. It's rare that I have to apply shoe polish (with dye) to fix something.

>>17487863
acetone will melt it away
>apply to lintless cloth
>wipe in a single direction don't rub it in or around

>>17486363
What's a good alternate for Doc Martins?

is renovateur toxic? I'm thinking of putting some inside the boot then wearing it

>>17487891
>

>>17487893
not fit for consumption but light skin contact might be ok

>>17487891
Better taste in boots

>>17487893
Obenaufs is the best for non toxic but it changes the color.

wait am i not supposed to touch renovateur??

>>17487933
Well it's a product intended to impregnate leather and your hands are also made of leather

>>17487933
If a bit gets on your hands you're fine, just don't use it like moisturiser.

>>17487950
i've literally always applied it with my hands for years

renovateur is ph neutral

>>17486547
High quality footwear, you are a lucky man

>>17487963
If you feel fine after then I don't see why you shouldn't keep on doing it the way you do

Out of all the white sneakers I have found, I like Crown Norfampton the most

The problem?
Britain

>order boots
>get them in
>they're defective
>send them back
>get another pair in
>they're defective
Guess the brand

>>17488014
Allen Edmonds
Thursdays
Nicks

>>17488014
allen edmonds
turdsdays

>>17488014
Meermin

>>17488014
Soloshitter.

>>17488014
>buy boots on Black Friday at discount
>they are defective, get refunded told to keep them and get a discount slightly better than the Black Friday discount to buy again at the same price
>buy another pair hoping they won’t be defective
>they are, asks if I want to keep them or send them back either way I’ll get a refund, ship them back because what I really want a pair that isn’t defective and I don’t want to look like scammer
>don’t get a discount code, would have to buy, at full price.
I’m just going to buy them again next Black Friday.

>>17488049
Damn. I was considering them lately. Thanks for sharing

>>17488058
Read the OP. It says not to consider them for a reason.

>>17488067
I know but I have bad contrarian habits

>>17488013
fuck the br*tish

>>17488057
Just chew them out man. Sometimes you have to, even if the person you're talking to isn't the one in charge of making/distributing, they're the only ones that can get you what you bought. They'll just keep fucking around and sending you shit unless you put your foot down.
It may not feel good to throw a shitfit, but sometimes you won't get through to people either way. Be a Karen, ask for a supervisor.

is conditioner enough? in the leaflet that came with the boots that i got there was written that i need leather grease.

>>17487094
also wondering
anyone here have done it?

>>17487944
My hands are definitely not made of leather

>>17488201
get the fuck out

>uhm, yes, this is a totally natural crease pattern for shell cordovan and totally legit scratches
>i'm not smushing and bending the shoe by hand as far as it will go and hitting it with sand paper to force a "patina" to show off

man the patina thunderdome is really something to behold
a little over one month left, this is where a lot of people get desperate and try some funny business
in general the shadenfreude of watching people irreparably fuck up their expensive custom order boots for a chance to win a pair of grant stones or jim greens in a contest is great

>>17488234
what in tarnation

>>17487207
It's an "or" clause, fellow ESL. He has given two options that don't use celastic because plastic burns his skin.

>>17488075
Work on that, homo. Otherwise you're going to get a girl with pink hair pregnant.

>>17488234
ive seen meermin shell do that crease thing too but the back is 100% sanded
why do people even want their boots looking like this?

>>17488236
>guys check out my handstitched MTM unglazed color 8 shell cordovan boots made on a customized last that i paid well over $2k for

>>17488246
Same reason wealthy women get tattoos:
They're boring people but want something that makes them seem like they've been through a lot.

>>17488234
i love following the patina thunderdome because it's funny imagining these bug people in their 1k boots wearing them hiking or in the shop or stomping through puddles and mud just to beat their boots up so reddit and instagram "people" can admire them
i am so fucking glad i grew out of my boot phase when i did. i think the most expensive boots i ended up getting were my alden indys. i just don't care about boots anymore and don't care about babying them and conditioning them and all that shit that they do way more often than is needed
i don't even know where my shoe trees are, i think they're on a shelf somewhere

>>17488272
nice blog

>>17488234
what the fuck did they do to that shell to crease like that, meanwhile the sole is basically in pristine condition, fucking retarded.

>>17488234
He can fix it with a shoe stretcher ($12 on Amazon) and some ethyl alcohol.

>>17488203
Nobodies hands are made of leather you mouthbreathing retard

>>17488308
>Nobodies hands are made of leather
Maybe you should try getting a job.

>>17488278
You read it

>>17488312
I only read it to be nice. God anon, you're such a fucking faggot holy shit.

>>17488345
What's the point of Danner? I know they've been around for a while but they just seem like PNW boots for people who don't know about JK

>>17488358
yuppies

>>17488345
Don’t like it

>>17488345
stance looks wrong

>>17486363
are boots more washable than sneakers? what material should i buy

>>17488413
>more washable
?
?

>>17486363
I want a pair of waxed flesh ramblers so bad bros, but I really can't be spending $600 on yet another pair of boots. How do I cope with this feel?

>>17488413
what

>>17488413
idk what you mean
Sneakers, depending on the material, you can wash in the washing machine
Boots have to be polished. Which takes time. It takes special things you probably don't have (Saddle soap, Conditioner) and requires special handling and treatment depending on what you get on them (Get oil on them? better get ready to sop them in baking soda).

That said, they are WAY more durable than sneakers, people in these threads have posted boots they've had for 10 years, and with proper care, they still look great.

>>17488311
Maybe you should learn what leather is you dumb asshole. You didn't put your hands through a tanning process.

>>17486878
https://www.rancourtandcompany.com/collections/loafers

i have their boots and my dad has a pair of the pinch penny loafers. the break in is minimal and they are very comfy.

what if I WANT to go pure honkcore?
clowns can be effay

>>17488465
how do you clean the smell out of them? and take out moisture?

also wow you can just throw sneakers in washing machine?

>>17488234
>>17488236
>>17488252
Is this a fault with the materials? the construction? the design? or is it because their feetlets are too small for the size they bought?

>>17488531
>how do you clean the smell out of them? and take out moisture?
Leather is just skin, and like skin: It's porous.
Leather is infused with oils and various scents that almost never come out. It has to turn to jerky before it's compromised. So a little saddle soap (special dust and grease-busting soap with rejuvenating ingredients like Neetsfoot oil) can take down surface grime and odors. For everything else, there's cedar shoe trees and baking soda (Cedar has odor-absorbing properties for the inside of the shoe)

Also yeah, for the longest time I just threw my sneakers in the washing machine, set it to medium. I know now that most of these sneakers are held together with glue, but if you get a good shoe, you can still do that.

>>17488475
Are you autistic? Be honest.

>>17488531
Red cedar shoe trees.

>>17488540
You might be if you think living untreated skin is the same as leather. Fucking idiot.

>>17488554
It's okay anon. Not everything is literal. You'll learn to fake being neurotypical someday.

>>17486505
>Low tier is stuff made decently but made in the third world.
>Stuff like Allen Edmonds

Their boots are made in the USA.

>Obviously there's no comparison between Grant Stone and Thursdays

Which is supposed to be better? I don't own either because they don't believe in wide sizes.

>>17488599
>Their boots are made in the USA.
*Final assembly.
Their uppers were being sewn together in the Dominican Republic as of 2020. The location seems to have changed again as of 2022

Has anyone tried Oak Street boots?

I'd like a slim pair of boots, and these seem nice for the price.

>>17488612
OSB was the meme supreme a year ago
they're perfectly good, just no options. We got tired of talking about them fast

>>17487933
I recall something I read maybe a decade ago that venetian shoe cream is toxic if ingested, and it was advised that if you do handle it bare-handed then to wash your hands and under your nails really well before say eating something.
I just use disposable gloves to save myself the hassle.

>>17488599
>Their boots are made in the USA.
lol
have you had your head under a rock for the past 10yrs?

>its just how muh heckin' leather is!!
If i paid $700+ for boots and they creased like this on the first day i would be fucking livid, it looks horrible, the only saving grace is that these are casual boots but they still paid close to grand for them and its not even CXL

>>17488599
Grant Stones are plenty wide

>>17488801
>Which is supposed to be better? I don't own either because they don't believe in wide sizes.
Stones. They're made in China but they have extremely picky QC. Thursdays let whatever rolls off the assembly line stay on shelves. So you have a game of returning them until you're happy (and getting everyone else's returns until they're happy)
They also sell E and EE widths. Thursdays have a "wide" (grouped as E/EE which is bullshit) that is never in stock.

On TOP of that, Grant Stones also have Chromexcel models of all their boots while Thursdays have one or two chromexcel models and nothing else.

>>17488817
meant for >>17488599
Adding: Grant Stones I've had compare easily to 500-700 dollar boots I've owned.

>>17488049
>the third worlder posted the lemons he refused to exchange or return again
Like clockwork

>>17488465
>Boots have to be polished
"No."

>>17488764
when will people stop butching about creasing on smooth leather
literalky just buy patterned leathers, suede, rough out or animals other than cows if it's such a big deal

>>17488828
on anything in that price class i expect perfection, even CXL. None of my expensive boots have creasing anywhere like that on the vamp, and the one that did out of the box was sent back. Simple as.

>>17488824
Learn to read esl retard.

>>17486594
>I douby there's really thst much difference in quality between the two
There is, for what it's worth.
Solo's are what old made in England docs used to be. Current MiE docs are shittier than solos, so that should tell you just how bad the standard fare chinkmade docs are by comparison.

>>17488612
on sale maybe, but at full price id rather have some trickers grant stone or nicks

>>17487294
Lucky you.
Turd world tax I have to deal with is 100% on all footwear.
Leather is another 40%. Courier cunts like fedex, dhl, ups etc., charge their own extras on top of that. Imagine buying 2 and a half pairs of boots and only receiving one. *sob
I have to have shit sent to my office in another country in the region that has no bs import tariffs instead and collect them there when I can. And yes taxation is literally theft here as there's no way that money's being used on anything considering the absolute state of shit when I look outside.
Still, least I have that option that I assume most eufags don't have. Hasn't been easy to do for the past few years though. Finally got pic related after the seller held them for me for nearly 3 years.

>>17488881
>100% on all footwear.
>Leather is another 40%
holy shit please name and shame this shithole because that robbery

>>17488881
I look at the ground and I immediately know what country you're talking about.

>>17488612
they had big issues with their manufacturing a couple years ago where they were lasting their boots too tight and causing a ton of puckering

>>17488881
>100% on all footwear
>Leather is another 40%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz0keCXL7Bg

>>17488881
Hey those are the same vibergs I got
How have they aged?

my best boots are RW 875s in oro legacy
apparently these are hipster meme boots but fuck they are comfy

>>17489019
they really are unparalleled if you're standing on concrete all day

>>17488562
>Says the retard who started a retarded argument then dragged it out because he's stupid

>>17489020
that's a nice shade of brown, same leather type?

>>17486363
Year of the memes we are back bros

>>17489086
True that, that retard Ivan is shipping a new batch from the manufacturer out this year

>>17489078
those were from 2009, the original oro-ginal instead of the newer oro legacy leather. i overconditioned them in the first year of owning them and now i don't condition them at all

>>17489131
nice!

>>17489019
Do they fit the same size as meme rangers? I was thinking of getting a pair of RW moc toes.

>>17489020
honestly, anything but dainite works for me on concrete, classic vibram soles are good enough.

>>17489131
semi dress chads rise up

>>17489159
These are MPs actually

>>17489168
oh fug kyle is gonna fire me

>buy a pair of whites
>they fit alright, kinda rub my pinky toe raw a bit but whatever wide feet
>got down stairs
>hear the sound of rushing air
The fuck? Is this normal?

>>17489205
the construction is so tight that air can only escape through the opening when flexing, thats what you're hearing
>kinda rub my pinky toe raw
c*lastic

>>17489207
My unlined Viberg’s also rub my pinky toe, but I was wearing thin cotton socks.
>>17489205
You’re fine, if they fart when you’re walking normally that’s a problem.

>>17486363
tell me about dainite, why is it bad?
>t. only has vibram lugs and wedgesoles on work boots and looking for something dressier

>>17489250
shit performance on rough outdoor terrain, shit performance on wet tile. shit cushioning properties its a sole made for city slickers

>>17489250
its pretty good for the office, very hard so not as comfortable as classic vibram or wedge soles, something like EG R2 soles are superior. Ridgeway/Medway are great though.

>>17489250
It's heavy
It's hard
It's slippery

The only thing it does well is longevity and low profile.
But outside of shoe autists no one really cares about the profile of your more formal shoes.

>>17489197
People have to be memeing at this point. It's impossible to fuck up this much.

>>17489336
>m*xicans
i mean have you heard of refried beans? how retarded do you have to be to fry it wrong the first time and having to fry it again, only m*xicans are capable of such incompetence

>>17489207
Yes, and unstructured bad fitting shoes wont rub your toe raw.
Fucking air wasting retard.

>>17489354
>wont rub your toe raw
correct it'll rub less than the rigid plastic toe

>>17488345
Better than tranny heels.

>>17489336
That's because you don't understand how fucked up factories are. I worked in a shoe factory and people doing the last stage of shipping would do all kinds of retarded shit, shoes would pass through 10 people and they would still put shoes with all kinds of defects inside the box ready to ship.
If you're doing the same soul crushing work 8h a day there's a point you just don't care and the people in charge, those who care, will not be inspecting 1500 pairs of shoes a day themselves to see if they're shipped in good condition.

>>17489385
and this is why regular firings are required, keeps em on their toes

>>17489357
Post boots you obnoxious faggot

>>17489395
now yours (you won't so i'll accept your concession right now)

>>17489385
But then why does this happen so much with Thursday but not other brands? I worked retail for years at a sports department on a big chain. I personally sold thousands of shoes from lots of brands. Never had a box with two same side shoe in them and the number of failures on shoes that weren't clearly caused by the user were far in between, inluding the cheapest brands (about ten buck shoes).
I'm not saying Thursday don't have issues, I'm suspecting they're being overblown.

>>17489397
>tiny feet
>stumpy legs
fat manlet detected. Wouldn't expect less from an anime poster

>conceder thinks xer opinion means anything

>>17489388
It doesn't work because now you're understaffed and the guy that was shipping 100 boxes now has to do 150 so he doesn't even bother looking at what he's doing.
Then a couple days later a new guy comes in, he looks around lost because he has no experience or he's too much a pothead to care that the laces in the shoes have a defect or that the glue leakage wasn't cleaned properly.

You what you want is to have workers that feel like they've a job worth keeping and that includes paying more than the absolute minimum and treating them like garbage.

>>17489398
Because although the same problems apply all across the industry, it's also true that some factories just put more attention to detail and maybe put more resources into quality control. If you have a good team, with experienced workers that feel valued they will not fuck you up on purpose. Defects will still go through but you'll not see ridicule stuff like two left shoes.
Also most problems happen when understaffed and there's too many orders too fill in little to no time.

And if you're the person in charge make sure not to fuck the little guy, in the food industry they'll spit on your meal, on they'll literally slash shoes before putting them inside the box.

timbs if he lace to toe

>>17489397
We already did this once, remember? You got embarrassed and stopped responding. You should work on not being such a stupid obnoxious faggot, then maybe people won't hate you.

>>17489433
>You should work on not being such a stupid obnoxious faggot
physician heal thyself

Should I be washing and conditioning the midsole? If so, any suggestions on what to use?

>>17488876
>shilling for niggs
Their QC has been slacking and the owner wants to be a fast fashion brand. White's or Frank's have more integrity, while JK or Truman can bring the price down.
That said, be alert to Truman's QC as well, but it seems limited to their smooth-out boots.

>>17488982
slovakia?

>>17489430
I kinda dig it

>>17488876
I'll save you some time and disappointment by telling you to avoid Nicks completely. If you like the appearance of their boots, just go for Whites. Nicks pretty much copied Whites while completely fucking up their own QC and charging the same prices as Whites. Its fucking criminal

>>17489450
>nigga all these words
he asked about oak street, i gave alternatives that are similar priced

>>17489473
Niggs are not a worthwhile alternative to OSB.
Dumb ADHDfag.

Should I get this

>>17489478
sure

>>17489478
take pics so we can have a laugh

>>17489478
which one of you assholes memed dunlops at balenciaga

>>17489488
It was me, Barry. The Balenciaga smokejumpers are coming next. Ever seen a goth clown? honk honk

>>17489490
>d-clussie honks among us

Yo boot thread
Whites are selling suede derbies, my size included. Has anyone tried their derby/dress shoes? I know they're known for boots but the shoes are also made on their lasts, right? Any information on fitting? I'm 8E brannock. No wide sizes available but I figure they have such a wide toe anyway.

>>17489478
>>17489488
uncanny

>>17489516
https://shop.whitesboots.com/lifestyle-boots/otto-derby/

assume you're referring to these? the MP last is a little narrower with less vertical room than the more common 55 or 4811 last

>>17489540
Ah, that's exactly them. So it's a no-go for remotely wide feet?

>>17489545
https://whitesboots.com/last-guide/

the drawings aren't exactly to scale but you can just see from the silhouette the MP is definitely more towards a narrow fit

>>17489438
Oh you're too stupid to think about how you act? Never mind, I guess you're gonna be a dumb loser for the rest of your life.

>>17489516
You can always email them and ask how a last will work for E width feet.

>>17489589
I sent an email, my size will probably be out of stock by then though.

>>17489430
/trannyheel/ faggotry

>>17486885
>go buy some sneakers
why would a man in his early 30s who has a "real" job wear sneakers?

cop or not? I'm too poor to get anything other than second hand but I really want a nice derby right now

>>17489639
its really ugly

>>17488612
as others have said, a couple years ago them, truman and thursday were the poster children for quality control nightmares and shitty customer service. all were really young fresh companies run by people who were interested in boots, not how to run a business
fast forward to now and truman and OSB are both very good, safe options, maybe a little overprice
by the way, OSB and Parkhurst's made in USA stuff are all made in the same factory. OSB doesn't make boots, they just contract out to a factory in upstate NY, same with Parkhurst. Truman actually makes their boots in-house

>>17489478
ngl looks kinda sick

>>17489638
why would a man in his early 30s who has a "real" job wear loafers?
Have some self respect.

>Strong chemical smell goes away after a few days. It’s pretty wicked at first. Made my eyes burn a little.
HAHAHAHAHA WHAT THE FUCK

>>17489650
you're right better wear gigantic chunky PWN extra wide welt double row stitching logger heel boots to the office or the store

>>17489642
suggest something else then. I only know of carmina and allen edmonds and have been looking at those but used

>>17489639
these are hideous. looks like what boomers wear to church with a black suit that doesn't fit

>>17489657
https://shop.whitesboots.com/lifestyle-boots/otto-derby-suede/

>>17489657
https://www.grantstoneshoes.com/collections/final-sale/products/plain-toe-dark-oak-roughout

>>17489654
sure

>>17489654
yes. thanks for playing

>>17489654
honk honk

>>17486363
Give me your opinion on these, guys. I'm looking for a boot that I can comfortably wear around town or at the office, and has versatility to go with a lot of different fits from casual to business casual. If you have any other suggestions I'm open to them, but I feel like these are at a pretty good price point and a lot of similar styles didn't come in E or EE width. My normal brannock is a 9.5E/EE (right on the edge of it) so I was planning to get 9E for these.

https://www.grantstoneshoes.com/collections/boots/products/edward-boot-rust-kangaroo?variant=39812647714902

>>17489661
>>17489666
Damn these are nice, which one though?
I know both are excellent quality

>>17489685
Grants are fucking amazing, and the fact they offer wide is a cherry on top, be sure to size down because I got my brannock size once because I wasn't paying attention and they were like clown shoes, almost 1.5 sizes bigger than my foot.

>kangaroo
This I don't know too much about. Horse ass? Sure, Calf? It'd be great. idk about 'roo but I imagine it's about the same, maybe tougher.
Be sure to look up a bit on Dainite and how it feels beacuse that is my biggest gripe with GS boots is that they use the stuff.

>>17489692
These come with a commando sole which is another reason I was really leaning into them. You almost can't tell unless you are looking at the heel from the side. I work in an office but I frequently have to go out and walk our facility so that really rules out leather soles, and I am leery of Dainite being much better at handling the slippery concrete. Admittedly I don't know much about kangaroo leather, I just really liked this color/sole combo.

>>17489697
well god damn that's a great deal then. I have almost the exact kind of needs in a boot, so it's now on my pickup list.

>>17489685
Really good quality boots. Got mine recently and I can't say enough good about them.
Like the other anon said, they fit big so be careful. I have fucking freakishly wide (EEE) feet and it's almost uncomfortable how well they fit. I'm not used to having something on my feet that doesn't feel like it's trying to take them off. I've gotten nothing but compliments on my pair.

>>17489710
bold

>>17489702
>>17489710
Alright, went ahead and ordered mine at 9E. If they're too big I'll exchange for 8.5E, but I have a feeling this will be good to go.

Is it possible to get skinny dress-like boots with rubber soles under $600?

I like Carmina's boots, but to get them in black means I need to spend almost $1000

>>17489477
niggas really out here trying to compare oakstreet and nicks?

>>17489397
>Pinky deformed boots’ sides by pushing and stretching it.

Confirm fat moron who buy “stretch to fit” because his mom did not teach him how to wear proper shoes.

>>17489872
just don't get them in shell?

>>17489697
>>17489692
Kangaroo is the strongest leather, that's commercially used, for its weight. It's basically the titanium of leathers. It's great.
Also resists drying out cracking better than bovine as it's basically a desert animal.
My only experience with them has been on RM Williams boots compared with their standard yearling offering that was worse than it was 30yrs ago. My experience is from 10yrs ago.
Today the yearling is even worse then before so if I were to say purchase some RM's today I'd only ever bother with their roo leather boots as the animal is not farmed and therefore isn't subjected to ruinous (to the hide quality) fast-growing of cattle for their meat. Roo is wild and unadulterated.

>>17489981
maybe if everywhere on the internet stops telling people to buy 3 sizes down because leather will stretch they wouldnt have made that mistake

>>17489987
Dang I don’t even see a kangaroo option on the comfort craftsman

>>17489710
dont look wide at all, they look good

>>17490001
Ah never mind it’s only on the Australian website and it available in black
Fugging aussies gatekeeping the best Chelsea boots

>>17490005
Not available in black*

>>17489987
I wish Tricker's used kangaroo, would get a Stow in 'roo.

>>17490002
the leo hides width exceptionally well. the e widths look like d widths and the eee widths look like e widths

>>17486594
>>17486387
people of all stripes wear Docs and they're marketed at everyone
just wear whatever you want and be yourself
I wear Solovairs and do the whole skinhead look and I seldom get bothered about it even though I live in a very liberal big city because I'm not walking around harassing minorities with a swastika on my face, I mind my own business
the closest I get to tension is if some other punk asks me if I'm a bonehead and I say no, or some black dudes look at me like "hey are we gonna have a problem?" and I smile, say hello, and that's the end of it

>>17490005
I read about that omission on non-au sites. Apparently roo options were pulled worldwide because of apparent(?) negative reception to them?
I mean for sort of national symbol that is evoked in the minds of others when they think of australia it's funny that it's actually a pest that needs to be regularly culled.
This was the apparent reasoning, fee fees of international faggots crying over a dead giant jumping mouse thing in a country far away.

>>17490011
Black used to be an option I'm sure..
Give RMW a few years to readjust to ozcunt ownership after a few years of LVMH bullshittery.
Also, avoid the comfort variety.
I noted that the synthetic footbed was bad quality in 2007, and was wary about it then. Apparently in a recent tear down this synthetic shit is even worse than before. Have to wait to see if things get better with the aussie owner, who basically doesn't need the money and just bought it as a pride/vanity project.
If you were in the market for RMW's chelseas today I would strongly advise only going with the regular leather sole options, in roo.
There used to be such variety in models, like the Blaxland which was basically the leather sole model (ie. traditional leather insoles not that synthetic shit in the comfort model) but with the longer lasting synthetic sole that the comfort model uses. Hopefully they bring this shit back.
The Signature craftsman comes on a nicer calf but at that price why fucking bother desu senpai.

As for current roo offerings yes chestnut is their typical dull mud brown but tanbark is rather nice.

sorry i use old android

>>17490182
what are these?

>>17489015
Alden #8 Shell Jumpers, not Viberg. I stopped buying viberg when I tried the alden Trubalance last. As for wear they've only been worn a few times.

>>17490185
william lennon b5

Ankle boots with zipper, cuban heel and pointed toe under 200$?
Is it possible? Any suggestions?
I am fine with clarks lvl quality.
205w39nyc is good but they are 400$+ used. Its to much for me

>>17490206
>wl
How was ordering, sizing etc? Any ootb qc issues?

>>17489981
i'd like some of whatever you're smoking

>>17490220
got them from epic militaria so it was alright. quality feel and look much better irl. a bit tight around vamp (just below threadholes), as with many big size boots (31cm insole) you can check the length in the wl website. width is good, not narrow but not wide. heavy.

>>17490280
>>17490280
>>17490280

NEW

>>17490280
>>17490280
>>17490280

NEW

>>17489984
Like which ones??