/fa/ - Fashion

First for Indy

my carmina MTO with lugged soles in ETA 50 days

>>17476275
I once saw a picture of a guy who had made shell cordovan boots in brown (col4) and the toecap was red (rubi).

Obviously a mistake in their builder but Carmina didn't even bother to check if this was intentional before building a $1200 pair of boots.
And the guy just posted about them without mentioning the 'issue' at all, playing it off as totally normal boots

>>17476278
that's weird, carmina usually ask (or not even bother to ask) if they think something is retarded and just change it.

My carmina MTO experience is that i use the builder, then message Sara or Brenda and notify them of anything i want to do that wasn't available in the builder or other special mods that they rely over to the factory.
If it doesn't work they will inform you and just refund or work something out, although this never happened to me, the manufacturing department always approved of my modifications so far. Takes about a week or so to get it done.

>>17476294
What kind of modifications?
Carmina already has so many options, what kind of stuff isn't covered?

Carmina MTO is so daunting I have no idea what I want with the lasts or leather

>>17476306
it depends on the model ur customizing, some are missing a lot of options. You can also have small design changes, change speedhooks into eyelets etc, tell them to match colors instead of picking your own. You also need to ask specifically for some special leather options, like some rarer shell colors, russian calf or janus calf.

Also not all models might be available to choose from on the website, you'll have to ask personally for them to use that model too.

>>17476316
Nobody uses most lasts, people always go with Rain, Forest, Oscar, maybe Detroit and Soller for wide or Simpson for narrow.

For all we know the other lasts could be amazing but you will never find any info on them on the internet, Carmina stores do not stock them and also Carmina stores are known for being hostile against would-be shoppers who want to try on different lasts.

>>17476270
For prospecting visitors. We don't condone OP's faggotry.

>>17476399
who is "we"

>>17476270
>>Made in Chyna/Mexico/Indonesia
that's new

>Carmina factory
>the workers are not wearing Carmina

>>17476406
He looks like a sperg

>>17476406
if you make something theres a good chance you cant afford it

My vibram soles are splitting I tried super glue came loose after a week. Anyone know any adhesive that can be used ? Preferably avaliable in Canada. Thankss

>>17476275
thanks doc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZGdzVBAIL0

>>17476406
the tryhard anglo virgin vs the casual med chad

>>17476427
>I tried super glue
you need a flexible glue. try pattex

>>17476427
how bad is it? got pics?

>>17476427
why not take them to a c*bbler?
gluing shit on is quite possibly the only thing they currently do and they probably charge less than a tube of glue would cost you

>>17476427
>super glue
never use super glue, use barge cement.

>>17476427
do what >>17476478 said, my cobbler would probably do it for free. If you want to do it yourself >>17476480

What would you guys use as adhesive for insoles so they stop moving around and squeak but are also not permanently glued and can be removed if needed?

>>17476488
Double sided tape? I use double sided sticky foam things to stick things to walls that might work.

turdsdays - quality boots, quality jackets

christ what is that stance?

>>17476511
Heel is too low, they're using a high arch/heel last and putting it on low shoes. I bet every person that owns a pair of Vibergs has knee issues from the constant locking position.

>>17476513
correct, its why Whites are right

>>17476511
Honestly even my Indy feels like it needs an extra layer in the heel, it's my only complaint about the fit

Maybe the high heeled fags were right all along

>>17476511
SS23 is boring af

>>17476517
whites are right for your feet my friend

>>17476513
i noticed the reddit darling brands like viberg, truman, oak street, parkhurst don't bother balancing the heels and the back of the heel is suspended in the air

>>17476542
i think i'll stick to northampton makers for RTW and the likes of bonafe for MTO..

>>17476542
(its almost as if you need proper heels)

>>17476542
I bet they just use generic Chinese sneaker lasts.

>>17476542
*tips boot*

>>17476542
>>17476513
I got my vibergs today from the big sale and I had questions about that one, too.
>Pic related boots
>Pic doesn't do it justice but heel does not sit flat. It, in fact, is cambered forward some like in that pic
I assumed this was so it would always land flat when I walk, but for this to work, they had to make assumptions about my height that are wrong because I'm a manlet with huge feet. So every time I walk, it feels like I'm being pushed forward and it's awkward on my balance, I imagine this is secretly killing my knees but I took them off while they're still mint.

I'm tempted to return them but the #1 thing they did very, very right were these Lactae Hevea Tzar Sawdust Soles. The softest gumshoe soles I've ever put on my feet, literally like walking on a cloud. I'm not sure that's worth $700, and certainly not when I could probably get a MTO Whites boot that uses one.


>>17476559
What's weird last doesn't even look better than my Wolverine 1000 miles do. Maybe this is up to tastes, but people were pissing and shitting themselves in these very threads over 2030's looking like the best boot ever made and how slim and sleek it makes their foot. Wolverines have them beat in that department.
I may have fell for viral marketers, but I can't imagine a boot thread on 4chan with 2 dozen posters would attract any when there's a reddit boot forum with literal thousands of people.

idk, what do you think, /btg/? Return them or keep them in hopes the heel 'evens out'?

>>17476542
That’s wrong. My Vibergs sit fine, my parkhursts have the slight tip, and I returned oakstreet because they were fucking garbage and way too narrow (I’m a brannock E and a FF in a proper shoe). I would say parkhursts are very comfortable to walk in, but I’m an academic.

>>17476567
Looking at this image, they have something holding the heel flat while the rest of the boot is off-kilter. Look at the ball of the foot and how crooked it is. The ball is where the shoe would balance normally.
Even then it's not entirely even, look at the other side of the heel and notice that it's crooked, too.

cop or not?

>>17476578
That’s dainite baby

>>17476582
nta but that's Lactae Hevea, which a gumsole made from tree sap instead of rubber so it may not be even in the molds from batch to batch as they 'cure'.

>>17476567 here again, adding to this to say the kip lining is hot, like really, REALLY fucking hot. It's fine outside but I go inside, sit down, my feet are in an oven.
Never had a kip lined shoe before so this may be the consequence of ordering a boot from British Columbia.

>>17476578
yeah some of weight to hide the heel lifting at the expense of making the sole lift

>>17476581
I've heard about Starting Strength shoes but thought it was a joke

>>17476573
from vibergs own promo pictures
all these brands slap on a square block heel and just hope its level with the ground
i'm sure viberg has higher QC, but still this passes through
if yours don't have it, doesn't mean its not happening

>>17476588
Yeah? what do you think kip is? You just bought furskin lined boots with the fur shaved off.

just got a pair of Danner boots as a gift along with some conditioning stuff

how long should I wait before I apply the conditioner and how often should I apply? I'll likely only wear them 10 times a month and I won't be wearing them in the rain/snow/mud

help a new friend out

>>17476034
>>17476192
>>17476204
OK, si Iron Rangers and Beckmans have the N. 8 last and Moc Toes have the N. 45 last. How do these two last compare sizewise?

>>17476610
Since the boots are new and you don't know how long they've been on the shelf and what were the conditions in which they were stored, you might want to at least give them a light conditioning. Get a shoe brush, horsehair recommended, and brush the boots. After that get a drop of conditioning on your fingertips and spread it evenly over the boot, get more drops as needed. Leave the boots rest for fifteen minutes to an hour so the leather will soak in the conditioner. Brush lightly again and use a cotton cloth to wipe off lightly any residue or area that looks too greasy. The leather should feel supple and slightly oily to the touch afterwards. Not dry nor moist.
Afterwards, a light brushing after every wear should be more than enough to keep the boots in shape. Condition again when the leather feels or looks dry.

>>17476542
I dont have one so I cant guarantee it but based on the pics of the new spanish made boots the heels are balanced

>>17476615
mocs have more vertical clearance for toes and a little bit wider

>>17476605
If it happens to you, then what you do is call them and say it happened. If you take a defective product, that’s on you. Just because cucks on plebbit roll over and take it doesn’t mean the shit I have is defective. My bergs are 10/10. There’s one rag for bitching about his clown feet not looking like his reddit idols with dainty feminine feet, but my flipper feet are walking on sunshine in my bergs and my nose is honking on clouds.

I don’t give a fuck that “it’s happening” because if it happens to me I’m gonna get on the phone and say make it right. If they don’t, I’m gonna call American Express and tell them whoever I bought the shit from is trying to fuck me and charge it back.

>>17476502
Oh shit I forgot they started making jackets

>>17476610
Read the fucking OP shit for brains

>>17476774
they also make self delaminating belts too

>>17476780
no :)

>>17476685
thursday boot mentality

>>17476796
Too stupid huh? Makes sense considering you're too poor to be able to afford non trash boots.

>>17476826
why are you crying

>>17476685
I'm >>17476567
Is this what I should do? It does seem kind of strange that the boots don't sit flat normally and require my body weight to 'squish' it. Still have only worn them the one time btw, can return them.

Most effay insulated winter boots?

>>17476934
some pac boots that go all the way up to your thigh

>>17476270
thoughts on wesco hendriks? i don't normally like black boots, outside of some dressier boots, but i kind of want to get a pair. maybe in black pebble on the quarter and black roughout on the rest, or just go with all black outside the sole and heelstack

sirs, are these timbs? i want boots like these

>>17476981
I'm very tempted by boots like this but I know the white stitching will get dirty unless I baby my boots like a faggot.

Someone talk me out of black roughout mule skinners (pointed toe) from White's.

>>17477023
>the white stitching will get dirty unless I baby my boot
no

>>17477027
no what?

>>17477023
iktf, but anything other white stitching on black feels wrong.

what goes well with brown redwing iron rangers other than jeans seriously

>>17477034
I have brown stitching on my brown boots. I would like to have black stitching on my black boots.

>>17477038
Carhartt.

>>17477040
i wasnt joking

>>17477038
>what should I wear with literal coal miner boots?

>>17477038
fuller cut cords, tweeds to compensate for the bulbous toe

I wanna get these but I'm worried about the flat bottom soles will feel really uncomfortable walking around in them eventually.

>>17477041
Tough.

>>17477045
tranny boots

>>17477045
>zippers
>buckles
>laces
for what purpose? which one actually keeps the boots on?

>>17477051
>which one actually keeps the boots on?
faggot gravity

saw this in the archive
id? reverse image search didnt help

>>17476567
bruh same happened to me
>Buy bergs
>Get bergs
>Oddly low quality, tongue isn't gusseted, sole is dainite, fit is nice but it both looks too big for my foot despite the fit being killer
>TERRIBLE wax laces that are kind of ugly.
I'm convinced we got memed on

what is a boot you like but couldn't see yourself owning? i really like engineer boots but i have twig legs that cannot possibly fill them out. they probably wouldn't stay on my feet even fully cinched down.

>>17477119
It has berg in the name, what did you expect?

>>17477128
Then exercise you weak frail faggot

>>17477128
i don't see the point in engineer boots for me, who wears them? Motorbikers?

>>17477144
i do. i run marathons. do you know what running is? it's like when you walk to your fridge but faster, you fat fuck.

Does anyone know how often/when Grant Stone restocks boots?
I've been eyeing these for a few months and I finally decided to buy them, and they ran out in my size earlier today.

What's a good brand if I'm looking for comfy chelsea boots?

>>17477188
depends on popularity. I'm still looking at some chromexcel boots that haven't been in stock since Black Friday.

>>17477193
rm williams

>>17477193
>>17477224
those are chink boots, get blundstone.

>>17477162
Ah, yes, marathon runners are known for their buff physiques

>>17476643
>>17476643
>mocs have more vertical clearance for toes
OK
>and a little bit wider
enough to go half a size down? I have Beckmans in 9 and Iron Rangers in 9.5. The Beckmans fit allright, a bit tight on the sides when I first got them but have been getting comfier with each wear. The Irin Rangers I had to put a thin insole on them and they're alright now, but I probably should have gone for a 9.

Bought these (in better condition) for like 150 usd, hope they fit me

>>17477161
>who wears them?
railroad engineers

who got assmad and made a gay btg?

>>17477457
I used to work in a KCS workshop, we did the repairs on the locomotives and I was in charge of sourcing all the parts we used. I was with the whole team of railroad engineers and never in my life I've seen anyone but women wear boots like that. The mother of my gf loves wearing them.

In fact, railroad workers just need an 8 inch boot with steel toe and dielectric non slip sole and there's very cheap boots out there, I guess we workers just bought what we saw first and what was cheaper. Mine were heavy and uncomfortable as fuck.

>>17477161
women and gay men

Anyone knows what these might be?

model wears them here but i cant see where the boots are from
https://www.weekday.com/en_gbp/women/dresses-jumpsuits/women-mini-dresses/product.elvira-dress-brown.1096649001.html

>>17477606
they're so fucking cool they look like they're from starwars or something

>>17477614
http://www.lucyfire-fashion.com/en/brands/new-rock/m1471-c1-boots-metallic.html

>>17477369
>enough to go half a size down?
not for me personally

>>17477571
we're talking real engineers that shoveled coal into the furnance

the whites are making fun of us again fellow nigs..

>>17477666

>>17477660
I think you're too young, naive and probably don't go outside too much, locomotives nowadays don't use coal. They use diesel, half of the space taken on the locomotive is for the diesel engine and turbocharger. Although it's the motors on the wheels - called combos - what push the train forward.

I think those kind of boots are just fashion oriented, may be useful for motorcycle riders. I used to ride a motorcycle to work and there was a time where the laces on my boot became undone and the chain ripped off the cord completely. It was scary.

>>17477674
>locomotives nowadays don't use coal
yes they wore them pre ww2, then the massive glut after the war of motorcyles flooded the market and bikers took that design. and now sex perverts wear them

>>17477657
Got it, thanks

>>17477674
so do you shovel the diesel into the engine now?
seems like coal would be better since it wont run all over the place

>>17477677
>nowadays
>pre ww2

Anyways
kind of agree with that, Mr slave wore those and I don't want to be associated with faggots and I don't ride motorcycles anymore

>>17477696
There's a whole car dedicated to fuel, there's hoses that pump the diesel to the engine. Pretty much like any car does.

>>17477698
so now you have to drive alongside the train? seems silly when a few lads with shovels and some rocks used to get the job done

i use expensive hiking boots exclusively as casual wear

>>17477715
Yup there's a cockpit where two drivers do all the work, they just receive instructions from the radio and they accelerate and brake when they the computer tells them

>>17477715
I don't think you understand English

I don't think that's normal

>>17477927
likely loosened off to reduce lace bite

>>17477927
>bought boots too small to lace properly

Lace gap should be minimal and is a dead giveaway at too small/narrow boots. Well made boots from actual bootmakers like Alden, Trickers, C&J, EB, and even Whites cut their patterns for very little gap. (((Viberg))) surprisingly fails at this.

>>17477668
lmao they sanded it down until the internal washer for the nail is exposed
obviously the guy that did it couldn't not notice he was sanding metal and passed them on anyway, where QC, if such a thing exists at nigs, didn't notice or give a fuck about such a glaring defect either
cuck over in the reddit comments salivate over them anyways, defend it with the standard thursday excuses
>dude made by hand man, for that price they are a steal
>contact nicks they will make it right

I really like these chelsea boots that kogonada is wearing. Can anyone ID?

They look casual like Blundstones but also nicer like a RMW. Something in between?

>>17477991
Forgot pic

>>17477979
To me a small gap is for more formal dress boots and a wider gap is better for casual models

For example Viberg's service boot has a very wide gap while they have a more 'formal' model with tight facings and it just looks bad

>>17477225
blundstone is made in china trash
has been for nearly 15 years

>>17478009
vietnam

>people say "buy your GYW shoes one size smaller than your sneaker size"
>all my good fitting GYW shoes are UK10.5
>all my good fitting sneakers are UK10.5
I definitely cannot size down on my normal shoes
Am I buying sneakers too small or is this advice stupid?

>>17477161
Like the name says, they were originally for engineers... the guys who ran coal fired steam engines.
They were the go-to work boot until WW1 and 2 made lace-up boots much bigger industries with the demand for service boots.

nowadays the niche they served are more often filled with cowboy boots or rubber boots, so the engineer boot is mainly popular with bikers and people with exceptionally good taste in handmade leather boots.

>>17478019
>is this advice stupid?
I think so. i think a lot of people are falling for the stretch meme

>>17477161
people who want large uninterrupted leather panels in their boots?

you guys think it's a little much to show up on the first date in a pair of colour 8 lofgren engineers?

>>17478093
Stop looking for a false consensus to dictate your life. Do what you want.

Is thete a chart comparing how major boot manufacturers size? Something like a quick reference chart, like "if you wrar size X on this or this brand, you probably wear a size Y in this brand"

>>17476822
I would never buy those.
>>17476865
Just return them. Fuck it. Say they’re defective and if they complain call your card.

>>17478147
Also, all my Vibergs are 2040 or the derivatives. I dunno if 2030 are the “dressier” shit, but the 2040s I’ve bought have never had an issue besides me treating them like shit because they’re my walking around boots.

>>17478147
>>17478152
Ah I see, thanks. Yeah I was thinking of returning them but I'm on a fence because they are the 'dressier' boot. they actually fit my foot and look extremely decent but the heel thing is annoying.
Probably should have got the same in 2040 but I already have IRs, which are extremely comfortable but not all that dressy.

>>17477457
kind of a meme at this point. There is no surviving photographic evidence that railroad engineers actually wear those.

>>17478122
No just know your feet sizes in cm and convert from there and ask the manufacturer

>>17478182
Just say there’s a problem with the heel and they feel great but the heel is messed up and if they can fix it or send a new pair. People shit on Vibergs in these threads because clown shoes, but when you embrace the inner Pagliacci things will be a lot easier and you can identify reddit cross posters.

>>17478100
>Stop looking for a false consensus
we live in a society

>>17478188
I'll do that. Thanks anon.

>>17478196
You aren’t funny. Fuck off.

>>17478093
You need an expensive car, designer glasses, $1500 boots, and a six-pack before women will be attracted to you.
They will also discard you the moment you lose any of these things.

Since you're already wearing engineers, you may as well go gay. We're much less superficial.

I'm gonna do it.

Can flat foots wear White's? Or will the arch support fuck my feet more up?

>>17478379
they have lower arches but if you're in doubt, consider a trip to spokane. You can visit Frank's while you're there.

>>17476270
That looks so hot

>>17478418
>fly to spokane to buy a boot
nta Wouldn't the trip alone be worth more than the boot?

>>17478441
depends on how much you value on foot comfort

>>17478442
You're joking, right?
Even whites shills aren't this insane, right?

>>17478442
By the time most people here buy a flight to spokane, they could buy multiple pairs of boots and just ebay the ones they don't like.

>>17478441
Make a vacation out of it. Lots of beautiful stuff near Spokane.

>>17478459
fitted boots > multiple boots

A flight to Spokane is about $200 roundtrip on Southwest. Motel 6 is about $60-70 per night. A rental car is $350 for a week.

For $2500 you can have a week in blue collar paradise and get some of the best boots on Earth.

Remember, the two things hippies fear most is a hard day of work and a pair of White's boots.

I hate outdoorsfags.

>>17478093
A little bit, try not to be too weird and eccentric on the first date, you go slow with that. Godspeed anon.

>>17478472
>Remember, the two things hippies fear most is a hard day of work and a pair of White's boots.
Absolutely fucking based

Implying I know nothing about boots, and I want something for about $300 or less, what are the best options?

Those White's looked pretty based, but are $700

>>17478607
red wing

>>17478612
Ty. The blacksmiths look good.

>>17478254
>We're much less superficial
Hope you are memeing and aren't even gay.

official whites sizing guidance:
fly to spokane

>>17478808
this but ironically

>>17478472
Could have just travel in the far East and get something superior.

>>17478896
and buy a wife too while you're over there.

>>17478896

I'm learning that Americans buy boots to wear while working from home
why?

>>17478897
BASED
I need something to polish my bespoke boots at the end of the day, maybe I can train her to use her tongue

>>17478607
Grant Stone Diesel

>>17478472
Don't fly to Italy, Enzo Bonafe apparently does not allow visitors.
Also do not fly to any Carmina store. They apparently do not let you try on different lasts.

Maybe they are just hostile to the kind of people who lurk on internet forums.

>>17479088
In what carmina store? I tested 2 different sizes on 3 lasts at the Paris store, they even insisted on me trying more lasts despite me being very happy with the detroit and oscar fit.

damn, look at the stitching on this split toe

>>17479098
I've read this about the New York and the Spanish stores, maybe somehow the French are more polite and welcoming to visitors.

Or perhaps you do not look like a complete troglodyte.

How was the Oscar compared to Detroit?
Is it more narrow?

>>17479100
detroit is more voluminous, wider at the ball, hell and instep, very good with thick socks.

>>17479088
It's because you're a cat

This Japanese maker makes bespoke shoes that are a little... ehm... quirky

>>17479195
These are not cheap
They are hand sewn, hand welted by a bespoke maker in Tokyo

>>17479228
the HONKxford

>>17479195
>>17479228
Don't call my IRs clown shoes ever again

>>17479229
kek

>come home from work
>wearing my 500€ TLB NSTs
>dog needs a walk
>"I can't walk him in these shoes, let me change first"

>come home from work
>wearing my 750€ Alden Indys
>dog needs a walk
>"yeah let's go boy"

>>17479228
>clown shoes
:|

>SPIKEKKU SPIEGARU SHOE
:0

>>17479241
unrelated but yesterday a big retarded excited dog jumped me and ruined my trousers with his dirty paws from the mud and snow.

>>17478607
danner

have you ever hated a boot brand, or just any brand really, purely based on how obnoxious their shills are online?

>>17479228
>>17479195
but doctor I am pagliacci

>>17479336
Yes Thursdays

>>17479336
No. Ellaborate, what or who are you complaining about?

>>17479346
no one in particular
it's whites

>>17479346
thursdays obviously

How many of you own boots worth more than $400? Don't you think that's a little weird? All you do is walk in them.

>>17479336
>>17479343

>>17479439
even worse when you spend 1000 for glued sneakers

Bootbros.. I got my pair of Truman Java Waxed Flesh (commando sole) yesterday after waiting 8 weeks exactly. I'm super impressed so I felt like writing this shill post. Right away I like these even better than my Lofgren black combat boots which cost more than twice as much.

I keep looking over them, trying to find a flaw and I can't, everything looks perfect. The leather and stitching are flawless. The only thing I'm dealing with is the left arch feels slightly higher than the right one, but that could just be my foot. Anyway I expect it to go away once I break them in.

The appearance of the toebox on boots can vary a lot. my lofgrens have an almost clown-shoe look. Thursdays are narrow as fuck like something an imp would wear. Some boots out there have an enormous sole that sticks out like 5mm from the actual shoe like those fucking george castanza basketball trainers. These trumans toes are perfectly sized and rounded, without any extra overhand. Like a B-cup titty.

Also appreciated, the 2 speedlace hooks actually work, and they work with fat leather laces. My lofgrens only accept cloth laces and they constantly slip off and it's annoying as fuck to deal with.

Finally, most of the boots on btg actually feel like shit in the sole. They are aggresively hard and only slighty soften with time. Like Iron Rangers, those are fucking punishing to wear. Do people with IR hate themselves? These trumans are comfy right out of the gate. I was surprised.

>get brand new boots in
>wear them at my desk
>accidentally kick footrest of desk
>toe cap now badly scratched
ok

>>17479482
This post is worthless without pics

What shoe trees do you lads use?

>>17479560
got basic ones from woodlore

>>17477996
They don't look it, unless the sole was changed, but the tiny glimpse of the pulltab logo made me think of Redback before anything else. It's so small though it could be anything.

https://www.rancourtandcompany.com/collections/spring-pre-order
very interested in a boat shoe for summer, mostly for trips to the supermarket and the like, anyone have a pair?

>>17479576
/tip/ is a better place to ask, boat shoes are the exact thing you wear for ivy league prep fits

>>17479098
In 2016 I visted a Carmina store in Madrid. I think there's two in Madrid. I went to one on a high class shopping street somewhere.
Tried on a bunch of shit and came to the sad conclusion that not a single Carmina last fit my fucking feet. I put my shitty-QC worn out trubalance indies back on and left dejected. No complaints about the staff though. Accomodating staff, at least back then.

The same scene repeated itself all along Jermyn Street in London; tried on shit from EVERYONE. I mean every single shoemaker on fucking Jermyn street cept the bespoke ones obviously.
C&J now there were some right cunts: incredibly pushy, hardsell salesman all scrambling over eachother to coerce you into a sale.
Most pleasant and accommodating in the RTW scene were Cheaney and Edward Green.
Apart from Cheaney's repro military boot last, not a god damned thing from Northamptonshire's best, mediocre nor from their worst.
This sad event was repeated one last time that trip in Budapest at Vass. Vass had two shops: one staffed by some moody bitch and the other seemed like the real Vass shop with moderately better service. Hungarian service isn't anything to write home about though.
It was then I realised that until I went full bespoke I'd have to stick with shitty alden. Haven't been back to europe since though.

Made copius notes of that trip. Meant to make a thread here detailing it but never got around to it. If I can make it Europe some time it's off to Vienna to a specific bespoke maker who had impressed me more than all the London bespoke makers, including Lobb St James, in all aspects including in not acting like a bored, world weary cunt. Suppose you have to be a regular at White's up the street before they perk up a little at Lobb. Not rude at Lobby, just kinda dead-eyed and robotic.

Still, a lot can change over the years. All the older sales reps could be dead or retired.

>>17479636
Are you talking about maftei? I'm going there in May, the price is insanely good.

Im considering buying the Whites - Division Road collaboration when they restock this spring. Should I do it?

First time on /fa/, so not sure if this is the wrong thread, but didn't see any other shoe generals. I want to buy these hiking boots but I'm getting confused by the pricing. Is there some way I can find out whether "2023" is a better model?
>https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B087MRPXVX

>>17479446
How many glued sneakers are $1000?
Just yeezys, right?

>>17479701
look in the customer review pictures section for a laugh

>>17479706
I did see, but my previous shoes were the same brand, which I wore from 2014 to this year and they're still fine, just a bit deformed and scuffed due to wear. Can't find anything better that I also like visually for the same price range.

>>17479675
i've heard white's are pretty good

>>17479675
DV has some of the best Whites collabs.

>>17479798
Those look pretty sick. I'm a big fan of how Whites goes full force with the roundness of the heel

>>17479031
Poor fag spotted

>>17479439
Due to inflation, you can’t get well made boots in the US for less than $300.
Learn to love your feet.

>>17479819
I got vibergs on sale, I'm not sure if I love my feet because they are tight in the toebox.

>>17479798
sex
what did they call that leather?

>>17479872
Look, it they're only tight in the toe box consider yourself lucky. You're one of the blessed few who can wear the super sexy 2030 last without being in active pain.

>>17479882
Distressed roughout with crazy chief on the shaft.

>>17479872
Buying wrong size or the last does not work for you is not the boots fault.

>>17479909
bruh someone on the phone told me this was my size right into my ear after I gave him my brannock mesaurements, both width and length.

>>17479888
I would describe it as 'snug' to 'tight'.
I don't know why people call it sexy, it's only slightly slimmer than my Iron Rangers compared sole-to-sole. For twice the price, of course. Does it just look better as a dress shoe?

Question about european shoes I hope people can supply pictures for
All of them have pronounced, pointy toes. How does that actually look on a normal foot where your foot doesn't reach all the way to the end? Is it a perspective thing? Are they not all that pointy?

>>17479931
its just empty space

>>17479932
Does it look weird? having a big pointy toe, I mean.

>>17479911
>some wagie read off the chart his corpo boss gave him, he must be right!!
(You)

>>17479934
Then that is the boot's fault. Or at least the company who made the boots fault. What, was I supposed to know the guy on the phone who works at the company doesn't know what he is talking about when it comes to the product they are selling that I am buying?

This is as insane as the whites "Fly to spokane" guy.

>>17479937
Wait you think salesmen actually know their product?
The craftsman who made the product knows it, assuming it's well made. The jew who sells it sure as shit does not.

If you aren't talking to the bootmaker you aren't getting good info.

>>17479937
you're the "the boots are wrong because my feet are weird" guy aren't you?
stop having wide feet. cut your pinkie toes off. the 2030 last is great for people with regular feet.

>>17479941
Different guy with weird feet apparently.
>stop having wide feet. cut your pinkie toes off. the 2030 last is great for people with regular feet.
Is this really the advice people have for the 2030 last? "Oh it says it's an E size, and you wear an E size, but it's not really an E size anyway cut off your toes"
>>17479938
So viberg doesn't make the boot?

Are you both trying to make me hate Viberg as a company? Because it's really fucking succeeding. The shoes are snug on my foot. That's all. but like:
>You're one of the blessed few who can wear the super sexy 2030 last without being in active pain.
that's a joke, right? I like how they look and I can live with the feel, but that's not normal for a $700 boot.

>>17479951
You think the wagie answering the phone is the same guy who stitches the boots?

>>17479933
Its a style choice, I have some very pointy cognac wholecut oxfords that I wear to weddings. I'm in the US and nobody complains.

>>17479951
>Is this really the advice people have for the 2030 last? "Oh it says it's an E size, and you wear an E size, but it's not really an E size anyway cut off your toes"
yeah. the 2030 "E" is more like a D last for most brands. and their "EEE" is more like a real E
it's pretty common to see a guy who normally wears 9Ds to order 8Es from them instead. It's dumb.

This article doesn't say anything about getting your gf fitted for boots.
Whitesfags explain this.

>>17479965
>whitefags
>having gfs
what?

>>17479972
Sir this is an incel-free general, unless you are a neverserved who wears milslurp boots

>>17479979
post pic of gf wearing whites with timestamp

>>17479989
Anon, I need to travel the far East and buy her first. But I'm not going to buy boots over there.

>>17479933
It'll look weird if you're a misshapen fat blob wearing them with extra baggy cargo shorts or pants.
You have to picture them in context with the rest of the fit.

>>17479992
Kek

>>17479911
>Salesman trying to close deal
>Trust him

>>17479937
Caveat emptor.

>>17479960
“Very pointy cognac wholecut oxford”
Other than bad taste, they are know as tasteless, gaudy, twink, twee, homosexual.

If the CS can't be trusted the company is worthless and you should never buy boots from them. Carmina CS has always been very knowledgeable and helpful as an example, especially on sizing related matters.

>>17480106
This is the opposite of my experience, I am normally a UK10.5 and when I asked Carmina with my measurements they told me I should buy a UK9 or even try a UK8.5
I am not kidding

I bought a UK9.5 just to sort of split it in the middle and it was very clearly the wrong size

I didn't even send them wrong measurements, my foot length very clearly puts me at US11 size on brannock.

>>17480136
Just ask them for insole measurements, they never bothered with giving me size recommendations and just gave me insole measurements to compare with other lasts that fit me.

how to determine size:
look for online comparisons to boots you have on r*ddit then add 0.5

WHITES GANG

I kind of want Nikes SFB. Does anyone have them? Do they size like all the other Nike shoes?

should i treat rose anvil like the word of god?

>haven't bought boots in 2 years
I'm glad I grew out of my boot phase before Bidenflation happened. My Whites cost 450 when I got them. They're over 700 now
I feel bad for people dropping almost 1k on fucking boots now when they used to cost half that just a few years ago

>>17480218
wore them in the army. they're light and comfy but they're cheaply made and will fall apart
I guess since you're only wearing them to LARP as Shia and walk around the city it's fine. they're not actual work boots and soldiers that wear them wear different boots when they're actually in a field environment. they're garrison only boots

>>17480225
Yes. Only buy pnw boots because more leather more better.

>>17479951
Viberg sucks. I’ve tried the the 1035, 2030, 2045, and 2055 in a range of sizes over the years and found them all to suck. The 2055 was the best out of the bunch but for some dumb reason Viberg decided to only make boots in D and E width on it when it’s historically been a EE last according to them.

>>17480233
>I guess since you're only wearing them to LARP as Shia and walk around the city it's fine.
Correct on both accounts. How did they size? Like normal Nike shoes?

>>17480288
It's been a few years but I seem to remember them being normal size

>>17480225
No. His cutting boots videos have become a bit gimmicky at this point but that's expected from any succesful youtuber. Nevertheless they're sorta useful to get some insight on construction processes and materials of some boots, but his conclussions are a bit exaggerated sometimes.

>>17480293
Got it, thanks, man.

I want to buy my first suede loafer so I thought I'd go to old Enzo who has already made me a pair of boots that I am very happy about.

But I looked at photos of their penny loafer in suede and the pattern just does not look right to me. This is on the rounded 363Mod last, but the apron looks like a triangle to me.
Also there's a lot of excess suede near the apron's stitching, it looks odd.

>>17480299
Compare for example to Edward Green's Piccadily.

>>17479951
There’s some anon pissed off at another anon who likes Viberg and all this shitposting is a result of that plus the recent sale. Viberg makes good stuff and they have good customer support.

>>17480300
I only own one EG boot but the last absolutely btfo's shit like 2030 but i think the angle is just a bit unfortunate on the Bonafe loafer. Have you looked at carmina ?

>>17480313
Carmina loafers are normal looking, honestly everyone's loafers are normal looking except Enzo's.
EB has a lot of eccentric designs, maybe this is just one of them.

I was hoping to avoid Carmina on a loafer because they do not use leather heel stiffeners and I thought this would be a problem on a loafer that depends on the heel so much for a good fit.

I might go to TLB though

>>17480315
Might grab these from TLB.
They're also much cheaper.

>>17480225
no but treat his cut in half vids muted as god

>>17480102
>>17480100
>>17479954
Thanks for convincing me to return them, I appreciate it.

>>17476270
Kinda got memed into these Jim Green's but dont quite regret it. they look nice, decently priced, and after wearing, half comfortable and good for treking. BUT the steel toe is fucking HORRIBLE in slightly cold weather. I guess thats on me for buying an African boot where snow is a myth.

I tend to just wear my old reliable slip on Stanleys for general, unintensive use and non summer weather.

>>17480307
Thanks for giving them some support, in all seriousness. They aren't bad boots I just don't think they're for me after giving it some thought.

>>17479195
fucking Sora Mickey mouse looking ass.

>>17480384
You're supposed to buy the soft toe version unless you're going to actually have something fall on your foot.

>>17480384
Why did you buy the steel toe ones?
Do you need it for work?

>>17479962
what the fuck

...two weeks...

>>17480425
What is a "Casa Nova"?

>>17480428
one of the models offered by thursdays

>>17480430
So these cost like $200?
Twice as much as normie shoes like Timbs and Adidas?

Jesus Christ why do people spend money on junk

>>17480430
Hahaha

>>17480384
steel toe is awful in the cold no matter what the brand, that's why composite toe exists.

>>17480425
>two week old
>already applying mink oil

Probably over saturated the already shitty leather.

>>17480425
Are Thursdays really that bad or are redditors retarded when it comes to care for boots? I mean, I've got a pair of about 50 bucks mallshit boots that look and held better than this after having them for years.

>>17480449
>hundreds of examples of complete and utter shit like mystery mutt meat leather, sole separation issues, low quality leather midsoles that fray at the edges, the gemming actually tearing from the insole, zipper failure/misalignment
>are turdsdays actually bad

>>17480449
>Are Thursdays really that bad
yes
>are redditors retarded when it comes to care for boots?
yes

I hear guys swear by vibram soles for winter in a city, but they are horrible. You will slide everywhere once you walk inside anywhere with a solid floor and probably maim yourself

>>17480465
vibram offers a very wide of rubber compounds that perform differently in different temps. good manufacturers will explicitly state which model vibram they are using and you'll be able to research the performance on your own

>>17480465
Vibram is a brand, you probably mean Dainite.
Dainite is also a brand, but most people refer to 'Dainite' as the stupid studded soles.
Vibram (the brand) also makes a clone of the same studded soles as Dainite.

I will never understand why people like them.

If you want low profile, rubber soles like for example Edward Green's R1, TLB's City, Carmina's Tomir, Bonafe's Millerighe etc are all much better and actually grip.
And honestly Ridgeway soles are not 'high profile' by any means and are infinitely better for both grip and comfort. Literally no one will notice that they are not exactly flat to the ground.

>>17480478
Ridgeway/Medway all the way over Dainite, grips better, but most importantly they aren't as hard as rock, idc that dainite lasts for a really long time if i feel like walking on a brick.

https://www.grantstoneshoes.com/products/diesel-boot-tan-suede-1?ktk=YkFBc1piLTFiNjM2ODAwM2Q4
Very nice and fairly priced unlike trannyheels.

>>17480385
Alright. Just be aware it’s one anon who bought the wrong size and got called out for it spamming all this shit.

>>17480512
Yes but very lightly colored shoes are not easy to wear (only with very light color pants) and also very lightly colored suede can get dirty very easily

>Brannock says I'm US11
>have shoes in US11 - great fit
>have shoes in UK10.5 - great fit
>check manufacturer's website
>size guide recommends UK10 for me
>look on internet forums
>people say it's true to size, just order your normal size
>decide to send an email
>manufacturer recommends UK9.5

>>17480519
>our shit runs bigs, most people get a full size down from normal
>alright but if it don't work out can I exchange
That's literally all it takes.

>>17480539
It has to be an MTO because my feet's wide

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>>17480543
When I ordered my custom white's and they quoted me some goofy-ass size I haven't worn since elementary school I called them back and said that don't sound right and if they don't fit what do I do. They said they'll make it right by making me a new pair. Don't be a faggot.

>>17480478
>Dainite' as the stupid studded soles.
studded is just a self cleaning stand in for rubber but people expect it to di more. it's all about keeping the slim sole and not about traction

>>17480548
>just wait 14 months minimum for muh leddit meme booties
no thanks

Just copped my first pair of boots lads.

Perhaps a bit boring, but a solid first boot I think. Heard good things about Skolyx in-house brand and their customer service was excellent

>>17480565
Ten bucks says they'll get here before you get a girlfriend, fag.

>>17480576
fucking rekt

>>17480575
Chelseas are classic anon, you will hopefully get a lof of use out of them

>>17480576
GOTTEM

>>17479658
Unfortunately they were closed when I visited that year.
I was talking about pic related. Was initially lead to believe that they were more elitist than Lobb St. James but was pleasantly surprised to find that upon entering I was greeted by a 7th gen Scheer who politely, and enthusiastically, answered all my questions.
But there was something different about this place, and as I talked with Scheer it was niggling at the back of my mind. As he left me to peruse some old footwear they made for some emperor it finally hit me:
there was a constant stream of noise coming from upstairs.
Hammering and sawing. Work sounds. Actual work sounds. Every single bespoke maker in London that I visited, and I think I must've gone to about 5, were sterile showrooms devoid of any sense of being a place where awesome shoes were made. Because they weren't: they were measuring rooms. Only Lobb seemed to make some things under their roof of their St.James store, but when I went the place was silent, and kinda dingy dark desu. Most English bespoke is made elsewhere apparently in small rented workshops in some historic factory district. I got the impression from talking with a smaller maker that a lot of the grunt work for almost all the brands was done by the same handful of skilled guys, because there really aren't that many of them left.
But here at Scheer I was hearing the actual shit being made right then and there. It left the distinct impression of authenticity, actual authenticity, on me and I hope to return there one day to get some boots made.
Foster and Son in London also left a good impression iirc.

>>17480600
Another thing that I can recall: I think at Scheer they made their own lasts themselves whereas most of the English makers seemed to rely on a dedicated lastmaker. Dunno about Lobb.

>>17480391
>>17480401
I have worked shipping, yes.
where you use your toe a lot to manipulate dollies.

>>17480617
was it requirement or just a food idea because if you want a hardened toe you could have gone the tuff toe route

>>17480600
Just checked them out. amazing shoes, amazing history. I will give them a visit as well.

>>17480575
Is skolyx the same as afpos' Berwick? Both are made in Spain at the same price point

>>17480300
That's so perfectly well done

>>17480575
These things look great, I want to get chelseas myself because I fell for the combat boot meme hard and have no other boots.

>>17480478
dainite
>out of the box decent grip, but becomes absolute shit as the studs immidiately sheer of
>before the studs are gone they dig into your feet and it feels like you are standing on a pebble
>as they get worn they start to squeek and it's not white's layers rubbing together, because the noise is only present on pavement and nothing else, as opposed to all the time if there was rub going on
>i don't wear my boots indoors so dirt not geeting stuck to the sole doesn't really bother me, but it's the only plus of dainite
vibram minilug
>bad grip out of the box, but becomes quite decent as the rubber gets a bit worn
>gets worn down slower than dainite IMO, since the lugs don't fucking break off immidiately

i seriously don't get why people would choose dainite over vibram for a slim profile sole

>>17480519
There are two measurements on Brannock:
>Heel to Toe
>Heel to Ball
If you size your boots to your H2B measurement you usually will have a good fit, you are supposed to have some room in the toe. Size 11 is generally about 11 inches long insole, if its true to size, thus why most people size 11 H2T measurement are about a 12 H2B, because size 12 gives the correct amount of toe clearance regardless of H2T length. This varies depending on the type of shoe and last though, some shoes will have a much longer clearance needs like almond toes, they should be extended. If you size your H2T measurement 11 and you order size 11 almond toe that is true to size, you will not have a good fit, it will be too tapered and pinch your small toes. Etc.

>>17480899
>i seriously don't get why people would choose dainite over vibram for a slim profile sole
because it smiles back

>>17480225
Cutting a boot in half does give you good insight, but he overvalues materials while rarely looking at construction technique.
Goodyear welt for instance, is perfectly good and durable unless you use cheap canvas for the gemming. Rose Anvil has never examined the quality of the canvas gemming in any of his videos.

I think that Trenton & Heath / Potter & Sons is a better source of information, although they look at far fewer boots. When they're taking boots apart and rebuilding them, you'll get commentary on when something is cheaply/poorly built.
>but they rebuild boots with cork
They replace cork with cork and foam with better quality foam, because that's what the customer was used to.
They also replace cork/foam/rubber with veg-tanned leather slabs when the customer requests it. But that adds cost and most shoe-wearers don't want/understand the appeal of standing on solid leather.
Yes I am wearing White's boots right now, how could you tell?
Their customers and I typically have different taste. But that doesn't make them a bad source of info.

Anyway.
Same as it always is: more info is always better. More sources = good, unsupported sources = shit.
When Tecovas started coming on the market the top complain was "they're not durable" but no one had details on why. Trenton & Heath have resoled at least two, one had acceptable canvas gemming in a $300 boot, the other had a leather channel cut. In a cowboy boot, you want the leather channel. I can only assume someone saw the canvas gemming and panicked, but Tecovas are perfectly good boots for the price point. They're not Rios of Mercedes or Chisos but they don't cost $700 either.
And god forbid we talk about L*ccheses.

>Hi all, I just received a pair of Cadets from Thursday Boots and on my left boot, there are noticeable creases. The one circled in red is by far the most noticeable. It feels like a pebble under my foot. The right boot is pretty smooth with no issues. Any advice? Will this smooth out with use or are these bad enough to request an exchange?

>>17480449
The best tanneries have a name. Never buy boots that don't tell you where your leather is from.

Thursgays categorically refuses to say where the leather is from, and sometimes even the factory that makes their products.

>>17480944
most of it is likely lefart but they likely dont say so they can sub in other leathers based on availability

>>17480953
>trying to figure out what tannery le fart is
>find a stridewise article shilling for it being the top3 tannery behind CFS and Horween
god i hate turdsday shills, a fucking mexican mystery meat tannery supplying the cheapest shit brands.

Got vibergs, the boots are fine but the laces, woo-wee the laces fucking BLOW. waxed zip-tie tier laces.

Gimme some nice laces, some thicc cotton laces that look and feel good.

>>17481029
>thicc cotton laces
shit taste
thin flat waxed or thin round waxed

>>17481035
They look and feel horrible though. like i'm lacing with steel wire

while I'm here, microstuds are a shit design as they will eventually wear through faster than the surrounding rubber. it only makes sense if it's a different material to cope with that.
what are your best non-stud soled boots?

>>17481029
https://senkels.at/en you won't want other laces again

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Do you guys know of any other brands who make Euro Hiker style boots?

I know of Danner, but wondering what else you guys could recommend.

I got insoles for my Guidi 210's today, they fit amazing.