/fa/ - Fashion

The Fragrance Flowchart for Beginners

The Fragrance Groups 101 Chart

First for Zino!

>>17472058
>Most recent one. Zippo was before.
a shame the zippo one looked funny. do you know if it has been reformulated compared to the zippo version? it really is not very strong. batch from 2021

how long does it take to FragranceX to restock frags? I need to buy from them to get a deal ona frag I need to gift, but I want to grab Dunhill Icon while I'm at it (if the price is sub 50) so I can get free shipping. Or I could (re)buy S U N G and Lapidus Pour Homme... I want to wait for DI but I also want to pull the trigger on the cheapies fuuuuck

Demeter fragrances blind buy.
2 keepers, 2 for birthday gifts, and 5 that won't be used much - if at all. Will not be buying any of these again. I sampled these all last night. Took a long shower afterwards. My nose was burning and I had a headache.
Listed from best to worst:

>Amber
sweet and spicy, creamy, earthy, warm.
vanilla, dry woods, incense, spices, some very light citrus - i think its orange

>Pineapple
pineapple juice. sweet and syrupy
its really strong.

>Cedar
old dusty cedar boards. something lemony and bitter, a little earthy

>Hawaiian Vanilla
sweet vanilla with a hint of coconut
suntan lotion or a 'tropical' scented body cream

>Pipe Tobacco
sweet and spicy, woody, smokey. its definitely pipe tobacco. becomes dryer and ashier over time
theres a very faint metallic cherry scent that you get with almond extract

>Pistachio Ice Cream
pistachio ice cream, pistachio pudding, pistachio cookies

>Sandalwood
sweet, soapy, powdery sandalwood
smells like an air freshener

>Pink Grapefruit
bitter grapefruit peels, soapy, medicinal
'citrus' scented cleaning solution

>Russian Leather
dirty leather couch, old books, and an ash tray

>>17472060
>hurr durr but girls... Who cares?
Non-homosexuals

>>17472117
Does the sandalwood one last very long?
That scent usually does on my skin but most smell like pickles.

>>17472093
Apparently it has been reformulated, and not for the better. But I have no personal experience with the previous version.

>>17472151
Dodge the "santal" stuff, they all smell like pickles. Get Egoiste, Geo. F Trumper Sandalwood Cologne or Heritage EdP/EdT. I have the same problem with the santal bullshit.

>Missed my fahrenheit delivery
>Probably won't be able to get it until Monday

>$20
>Mogs western fragrances in pulling bitches

>>17472191
damn, it mogs western fragrances? so an original creation then and not a clone of tom ford black orchid (western fragrance)?

>>17472201
why does it have to be original to mog:
its cheaper and a little different in terms of how it's a bit lighter, still lasts quite long.

>>17472191
>oud
>mogging anything

>>17472201
the west invents it, the middle-east improves it. Deal with it, cracker.

>>17472156
>Apparently it has been reformulated, and not for the better.
unfortunate. i wonder if the zippo one is better.
to be more specific with this one, i think the projection is rather weak, not that it doesn't last long. it's just a skin scent rather quick. but i'll give it a full wear tomorrow and then form more thoughts. unfortunately it was wrapped in plastic so i can't really make it look unopened

Is it just me? I do tend to hate 90% of scents.
I got 4 samples, and they were more or less as expected except Chanel Egoiste. My notes:
Weird opening like a urinal cake. Later - Yuck. Minty old moldy urine soaked sofa after sitting in high humidity garage a few years. Gone in 3 hours thankfully.

>>17472238
did you really get filtered by egoiste? christ dont even go near kouros or lapidus pour homme
also yes most scents are shit

>>17472205
Because in that case it's just a Western fragrance pulling bitches?

>>17472219
There are like 3 good/acceptable clones out there. All other ones are mid. Dakar is only because it manages to bring the old DN back, not because it "improves" it. They just made DN worse. We're not gonna go on another 20 thread tangent about oil clones and shit like that. We should remember the past.

>>17472236
Try spraying it on clothes. I had some luck with a few fragrances which traded a bit of their projection in order to project longer. Like half the projection but at twice the duration compared to spraying on skin.

>>17472238
Is that the review for Egoiste? Because in that case someone filled some fake juice into your sample.

a friend of mine is going to Oman next month, can people point me in the direction of good brands/designers for him to check out while there

>>17472260
https://www.fragrantica.com/country/Oman.html
there are 10 brands known by fragrantica and his best bet is probably amouage (which you can also buy here).

>>17472249
I mean, I checked well on Fragrantica and everyone gushed about it, but woody-no, warm spicy-no, cinnamon-no, the rest-no, minty aged cat piss-yes. I know better than to buy the bullshit pushed here. Though I am wondering about BI and Secretions Magnifiques to see how bad it can get.

Looking for a cheap woody/citrus for daily use. Considering Horizon by Davidoff, Passenger by S.T. Dupont, maybe Legend Red by Montblanc. Don’t know where I’d even sample these, so they’d have to be blind buys. Thoughts?

Reminder: it just werks

>>17472271
Bois imperial is a nice scent, dont compare it with secretions magnifiques which is a fucking meme.

Bois imperial is sweet and creamy , with a lot of vetiver.

>>17472278
smells like bactine

>>17472283
You'd know all about the smell of lidocaine, faggot.

>>17472283
Takes manly shits all over your Bactine cologne

>>17472283
Vintage 60s even 70s totally mogs 2020 Bactine. Beast mode Bactine.

I’m gld I Hoarded up on bottles over Covid. Now the prices are all doubled. Still not selling but I’m good for life

>>17472238
>>17472271
Platinum Egoiste did the same to me. It's weird, on paper is smelled amazing, then on skin it was super pissy. I thought the tester was old, so I went to another shop and it was the same. Another day in another country, it's back to divine. I won't test my luck buying it. I think bottles might get spoiled easily.
>>17472256
doubt old DN smelled as good. And even if it did, it's gone for good and no one in their right mind would spend 200 bucks for a vintage cheapie when Dakar does the same for 6 bucks. Real oakmoss baby, IFRAcucks stay losing.

>>17472092
what's a good analogue to zino?
and no i'm not buying tom ford, it's owned by estee lauder. i'd rather pay $300 for niche than have my money go to israel

>>17472298
Pretty much everything liquid was better before they made it "safer" ... except water.

>>17472355
Guerlain heritage, Hattric classic aftershave
>>17472364
I bought a bunch of vintage classic Frags. Right now I’m wearing Caron pour homme. It’s snice

>>17472355
why not just buy zino? or vintage zino if you insist

fragrances that smell like a new couch and oud?

>>17472210
Yes

>>17472545

Just pulled the trigger on these... did i do good? plan to wear them on Valentines with my wife and my birthday the week after.

>>17472219
>Deal with it, cracker.
Middle East is not Africa, Jamal, they will whipcrack your butt with the 11th CDN flanker just as hard as the old ones in the west

>>17472554
Asad is good, I'm meaning to get Fakhar too next time I can get free shipping.

>>17472238
Body pH has a lot to do with it, Allure Sport smells like stale socks on me but the typical Avon catalogue juice drydowns fully without leaving that soap catalogue smell.
How to check pH according to fragrances? that's the next step of frag hobbyism, some people can make Kouros smell musky while others just downright to some alien piss urine.

>>17472286
Lidocaine is used in most painkiller creams bro, shame on you that the only place you've seen it is in your mum's secret counter

>>17472290
>he doesn't buy cumlube
ngmi

what frags did my fellow mericans wear tonight? for me LNDL. bit overrated

good frags for high heat/humidity and sweat?

think I might have to snag some dakar since it costs less than a sample even though I dont think ill like it. fuckin shills. Also, the og Chanel allure homme is nice

>>17472674
Cool Water or Polo Blue

>>17472081
Spicebomb or tuscan leather for next blind buy?

>>17472719
tuscan leather is like a 300 dollar frag, are you rich af? i would get tuscan clones

>>17472271
There are molecules which are perceived differently by different people, and I guess that might apply for sandalwood fragrances to you. For me, it's some kind of "amber" chemical found in e.g. Jazz Club, Costume National Homme, Le Beau and Le Beau Le Parfum, Oud Malaki, Amyris Homme Extrait and many others. It's a modern synthetic molecule and my nose perceives it as smelling like the juice at the bottom of a trash bin. Unwearable fragrances.
Molecule 01 is another one and iso-e super in general as well, same with frags like Santal 33 and other santals, which are dill/pickles to some but not others.

>>17472310
I wish I had saved the "but muh oakmoss" image the basenotes furry dragon recently posted. Would have been perfect in this situation. Anyway, it's not banned and Drakkar Noir contains real treemoss to this day.

>>17472554
Asad is indeed good, but vanilla crowdpleaser DNA mixed with some of the Sauvage Elixir DNA. I found the actual lack of vanilla in Sauvage Elixir to be more exciting.

>>17472719
Neither. But if you insist, Tuscan Leather, since Spicebomb got nuked into zero performance territory.

>>17472755
Why smell bad for less money when you can smell good for more money?

>>17472760
>17472760

Wut? The clones cost 80-100$ and are 98% identical with the same performance. You have to be retarded to buy tuscan at this point. Even ombre leather has good clones like rare carbon

>>17472764
Please, I've said it before, let's not go on another 20 thread long clone tangent. They do NOT smell identical. They never do. They are best treated as individual fragrances with no relation to the original (like I would rate Asad, a great fragrance if you don't want a Sauvage Elixir clone).

>>17472606
Proraso wood & spice
it's a very subtle scent but smells good if you get within an inch of it so I spray like 100 times over my bed and pick up the faintest of whiffs in my dreams

>>17472785
Alexandria clones usually match the smell in my experience. The one I compared the most was MFK Grand Soir vs Alexandria Paris Night, and North Stag Neuf IX. Both clones are extremely similar but Alexandria got the gritty labdanum note right, Neuf IX is smoother. However both clones have lower longevity, still decent but MFK lasts 24h+ and survives showering unless you scrub it off.

Lomani El Paso any good? ngl it's the bottle design that's tempting me more than anything.

>>17472819
>Lomani El Paso
1993 dated garbage

>>17472832
age is just a number baby

>>17472833
>age is just a number
Only to an idiot.

>>17472760
>and Le Beau Le Parfum
are you the faggot that keeps calling le beau le parfum and jazz club synthetic in every thread?

so tiresome,get your nose checked lilbro

>>17472238
I've tried dozens of scents and there's only a few standouts imo. I wasn't impressed by Egoiste but I didn't find it unpleasant, just generic.

>>17472081
noob here
I blind bought this one because it was on sale (38€/100ml) and I wanted something light and fresh for spring.
It smells just about how I expected, if a bit generic.

Did I fuck up?

>>17472238
I also find Egoiste kind of challenging for some reason, I have no idea why. I found Antaues much easier to like

>>17472836
Keep your Sauvages zoomer kiddo, real men are here applying 5 sprays of Grey Flannel on Monday and 4 of One Million on Tuesday

>>17472837
No? I think I last mentioned that stuff a million threads ago during an Oud Malaki vs Amber Malaki discussion. I've never called either of them synthetic, though.

>>17472852
Yes , blind buying is retarded and exactly the same addiction as gambling or loot boxes. You dump your money into the excitement of maybe "buying a great fragrance" instead of going out trying them and then buying what you like, like a normal person would do with literally everything else. Instead you are impulsive buying scented water that you will smell for a second and then your excitement will go off instantly after the buyers remorse hit you hard

Don't act like a retard

>>17472832
zoomer faggot
>>17472864
>Oud Malaki vs Amber Malaki discussion
what was the conclusion?

>>17472869
True but
>instead of going out trying them like a normal person would do
Getting to test frags is becoming much more rare by the day, especially in markets where no department store will open a box of some niche juice with only 3 boxes on stock in the entire state.
Also decanters and samplers are expensive for some odd reason, the moment some company starts selling samplers for cheap at wide scale at the store is the moment they will get more orders because nobody will buy a 200 dollar bottle without knowing what geranium smells like.
That's why Coty made a lot of dough at some point, apart from being cheap shit they also handed out promos and samples of their shit very often.

>>17472908
I always buy sample first and that probably saved me hundreds of euros. There are entire websites dedicated to that. It's the only way for me to enjoy this hobby reasonably

Top 30 Best Compliment Getting Fragrances for Men in 1 Minute | Fragrance Cologne Perfume
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UViOmspGAqc

The One EDT vs EDP
Do they smell the same?

>>17472913
>There are entire websites dedicated to that.
You would do good but problem is shipping costs are horrible outside the US and western Europe, sometimes one can buy an entire 100ml bottle for the price of one 5ml sample.

>>17472913
Not in eu though, especially for designers

>>17472886
There was no conclusion. Oud Malaki is probably really good if you don't perceive it in the way I do. Amber Malaki is also really good, a great amber vanilla fragrance with excellent price/performance ratio.

>>17472918
yes
but edt does not smell
edp smells for 3 minutes

>>17472924
Don't say EU, because that certainly doesn't apply to my country. I can just buy designer samples on the parfumo souk if I want to. Then again I can also just go to the store.

>>17472922
That's why you don't just buy one sample you buy a dozen or so

>>17472913
>I buy sample
>consuming is a hobby
fucking bingo!

>>17472933
Consuming is not a hobby, if I could get the samples for free I would, but sadly that's not how the world works.

>>17472789
I've tried many Tom Ford Alexandria fragrances and they're just not the same. in some cases they have stronger performance, but generally at the cost of smoothness and subtlety. Is the original fragrance sweet? be prepared for overwhelming sweetness. spicy? might as well sniff a bottle of cinnamon. if you're too poor, fine. but I'd rather spend on the good stuff in smaller quantities than buy a bunch of clones.

just blind bought Amouage Reflection

how fucked am I
[spoiler/]yes I paid full retail[/spoiler/]

>>17472932
>you buy a dozen or so
And paid by a group... guess you gave me an idea so thank you kindly

>>17472869
>same addiction as gambling or loot boxes
I had tested other fragrances by that brand before and thought it can't be that bad. I certainly didn't expect anything magical, I expected a normie smell and got it.

>>17472908
Dedicated fragrance stores aren't that common where I live.
Can I order samplers online or will I get kiked like >>17472922 said?
I'm in central europe.

>>17472951
>I like giving money to foreskin munchers
That's what we read

>>17472965
schizo moment

>>17472953
https://streamable.com/oj3kgc

>>17472965
>we
(You)

>>17472929
>yeah bro just order samples on Souk lol
>everyone is german so it's 10+ for shipping unless you live there (and I'm talking bordering countries too), then it's only 5
>everyone has 1 sample of 1 frag so if you buy 3 samples you pay 15 euros of shipping
you stupid kraut fuck I will end you with my bare hands. And you can't find all designers on store, only a very minute fraction, where do you think you can sample all the sub 50 euros frags? you can't. So you can only blind buy unless it's a top 10% designer or pay out your ass for samples.

Or do you know a single profile on souk with a huge collection that gives out samples? In that case hook me up, otherwise you are wrong.

>>17472972
Then stop buying fragrances that are less than fifty euros solely because they exist. Are you really this retarded?

>>17472973
>NOOOO YOU CAN ONLY BUY HIGH END DESIGNERS OR NICHE FRAGS NOOOO
my collection mogs yours even though it's mostly cheapies that I blind bought. I never regretted a blind buy because I'm not a retard and I do my research.

>>17472956
>central europe
OP's post had some german site so i guess the shipping can't be higher than 20 euro, which is relatively cheap for euro economy.
20 euros for me is a week's worth of food expenses so we use every chance we get to milk the testers when we found one at some store.

>>17472977
shipping for average parcels is like 5€, I can't imagine a few small bottles costing 20

>>17472840
>Trap Door DVD

Absolutely patrician taste anon. What frag would Berk wear? Or The Thing Upstairs?

I just wore two sprays of interlude 53 to the gym.

AMA

>>17472081
Bros suggest me some edgy fragrance that smells dark

>>17472975
>I never regretted a blind buy because I'm not a retard and I do my research.
You never regretted a blind buy because you probably have the income management skills of a 3year old.

>>17473022
Is that supposed to be daring?

>>17473028
What would you wear to make an entire gym uncomfortable anon

>>17473040
I don't know, it was a genuine question, because I've never tried that fragrance, but looking at the notes it seems fine to me. Two sprays that strong?

do any of you do the petroleum jelly thing with weak shit? how much does it improve performance?

>>17473027
you are not making any sense you delusional germoid, how is buying cheap good scents bad management, you probably own niche shits that I mog with 15 bucks frags. I never regretted because I do my research and I condition myself to like something I spent money on so I won't feel bad, and it actually works. Also actually liking certain types of fragrances and notes helps.

>>17473027
you're never going to be able to sample clones that are not super popular (aka stuff that is not cdnim)

Are there any actual women in these threads
If so, which frags do you tend to find attractive on guys?

>>17473055
looking for some panty dropping compliment catching pussy watering make her fall for you type of frag eh?

>>17473057
Yes, that's exactly it.

>>17473044
The original interlude is one of the best performing fragrances iver tried. Lasts until you wash it.
Interlude 53 is just interlude with 53% perfume oil concentration, so the fragrance is fucking nuclear. I have to say that I wore it by accident, I didn't plan to go to the gym today, I sprayed this morning and then plans changed and I went to gym. I even washed my neck with face cleanser before coming but now it's projecting like crazy with sweat

>>17473052
Then I won't buy it, I won't throw my hard earned money into smoke.

And I probably make more money than anyone in this thread by the way

>>17473066
post total comp or cope

>>17472972
You're way too small and weak to end me with your bare hands. You said EU, I told you to stop saying it. Find the right place for your country, search on facebook, find a sample website, whatever, I don't care. Not my problem.

>>17473066
>I never regret any
>I am forced to like them
>I win more money than anyone else
The cope train is real, you should've just stated "anyways" or something.
Now post collection

The old ways and days of brotherhood and asking for sprays to fellow friends is ogre, blind buying happens but buying more than 5 frags is absurdity unless studying aromatherapy.

>>17473052
you are not gonna be able to sample clones at all, all official stores don't sell that shit, other than overpriced CW they make money by selling overpriced 100+ bucks frags to clueless normies. Go ask any employee what they think of CW and they'll say it smells old and to try some trashy Prada Luna Rossa Ocean or something. You either luck out on some small independent frag shop or you are fucked.
>>17473066
>>17473070
first you tell me I can't manage my income then you say you are le rich but won't buy cheap frags. You are either a poorfaggot larping or a mongoloid jew too stingy to spend 20 bucks lol.
>You're way too small and weak
confirmed lardass kraut. There is no right place in my country, no fb group, no site selling samples that I couldn't just test at stores
>whatever
exactly, you don't know shit so shut the fuck up and keep coping and flexing your monopoly money

>>17473023
Encre Noire

>>17473079
cool water is dogshit doe

Current rotation.

>>17473089
https://www.fragrantica.com/member/1266704

>>17473083
dogshit performance, good frag. Smelling clean is underrated.
>>17473089
rotation is something else, and where the fuck is Dakar

>>17473094
>where the fuck is Dakar
fuck Dakar, dated shit

>>17473079
Hey, I'm only the guy telling you not to speak for the whole EU when it's literally a (You) problem. You can assume whatever you like about me, I don't care.

This thing is fucking fuzzy sweet raspberry and blue spicy. I love it.

>takes ur breath away

>>17472081
Nigger

>>17473098
I went into detail explaining why it is a problem even where you live you thick tard. And I already know of 2 relevant EU countries, one of which is one of the biggest frag producers, where buying samples is either impossible or very inconvenient. Kys.

Debating whether to buy DHI. It makes me nostalgic because I used to wear it at a particular time in my life but I'm not sure most women or even most people find it pleasant. And no fragrantica members do not represent "most people"

>>17473154
Buying fragrances to please other is dumb, but if you wanna do that. Just buy sauvage etd

>>17473156
I don't want people to think I smell bad/weird

>>17473154
>>17473157
it's a mainstream modern designer scent, anon. it's sweet and pleasant and easy to like. if you want to wear it, buy it.

>>17473014
Boni strikes me as a Fahrenheit guy

>>17473154
It’ll make you smell like a homosexual. You are a faggot aren’t you anon? Just buy Dior homo intense with its lipstick chocolate homosexual goodness. But only if you’re a bottom bitch.

>>17473160
Guess so
Will it be unbearable during summer?

>>17473170
no, but keep it to summer nights / colder days and don't overspray

>>17473174
What can I substitute it with for days when it's very hot?

>>17473176
idk, what frags do you like? Encre Noire Sport is nice and pretty cheap

>>17473196
I mostly like frags that are only good when it's cold, I'm not big on aquatics and citruses so it's hard to find something for the summer
Also don't like classic fougeres like CW

>>17473121
Why would I care about your explanations? Why is it a problem where I live? Because it isn't, I can just go to store and test everything and get samples of designers and niche alike. Not my problem.

>>17473203
I'm the same my summer frags are outnumbered by my autumn/winter frags but you can't go wrong with ENS like anon suggested >>17473196
Fantastic, high quality high performance scent at a low price

>>17473203
yeah I'm in a similar boat. try some vetivers like the aforementioned ENS, Grey Vetiver or TdH Intense Vetiver
voyage d'hermes is also a nice warm weather frag that isn't super typical

>>17473223
>>17473226
I don't really like vetiver-centric fragrances, they feel too "bitter" and austere
Will try voyage d'hermes

>>17473227
Philosykos is also a good one

H24 EDP is great, why always people talk bad about this release?

>>17473168
Good thing I have Dior Homme Parfum, it makes gorgeous girls want to suck my monster schlong, feels good.

>>17473249
because it is different

>2023
>still not having AI tell you which perfume to buy
are youse guys even trying?

>>17473279
Light Blue chads stay winning

>>17473279
wow, i was doing the very same thing right now
>too bad chatgpt is a fucking pleb

>>17473281
>chatgpt is a fucking pleb
also a fucking socialist

>>17473249
>H24 EDP is great
I could agree with you but we would both be wrong in that case.

>>17473279
Massive massive L

>>17473281
I'd trust it more than a random anon, the salesperson or even my girlfriend (who might want to get me to wear something that smells bad to sabotage my efforts to cheat on her)

>>17473279
my suggestions for the same input are a bit different

>>17473300
Eros wins. Pulls compliments from ladies for me.

>>17473279
>>17473300
>>17473304
Is Eros that good? Which flanker is best?

>>17473300
Well it told me it didn't list the perfumes in any particular order (even though I kept asking it to rank them by some objective criteria) so I'm guessing the two that appear in both lists are the best bets.

>>17473279
>>17473280
Light blue sucks ass, it is non-existent. Imagine paying that much money for literal water. Light Blue Forever and Italian Love are the only D&G frags worth it
>>17473307
no and flame

>>17473304
last time a woman's been close enough to smell me was 8 years ago :`(
on the bright side, I probably don't have to spend money on scents or spend time thinking about which to buy

>>17473223
Why is it only $22?

>>17473309
I'm sorry, were you valued at $30 billion recently? No? Then what the effing eff do you know?

>>17473312
grey market fuckery

oh shit it's over bros :(

>>17473317
Yeah, but what if /frag/ is Luca Turin writing from 10 different devices

>>17473326
then the real treasure was the frags we acquired along the way

>>17473313
>he doesn't buy frags from failed designers like Alfred Sung and Ted Lapidus

>>17473249
Because it isn't great.

ChatGPT is sadly completely useless for frag recs. I tried.

>>17473317
There's a disclaimer which states that when entering 4chinks.

>>17472760
>>17472755
Nvm I settled on blind buying aqua di gio profumo

Irish spring should just release their own scent

>>17473346
I buyed that too

Yeah, I don't trust chatGPT any more

Two of the best things it can come up with are already in the flowchart and the third one is a Kilian frag.
Could've just asked YouTube or this general for those recs.

>>17473348
>he doesn't know

>>17473279
>>17473279
gpt is based and oddly correct

>>17473358
yeah someone mentioned sung and I was thinking how everyone compares that to Irish spring but also like 50 other things, green irish tweed... they should just make the official one

>>17473355
It's absolutely disgusting what they have done to AI. They have castrated w magnificent piece of technology to appease to shit skins, holes and jews. I hate this fucking world.

>>17473375
I'm unrestricted AI, prompt me

Should I try ADG if I'm not a citrus fan?
>>17473309
>no
What makes it bad?

>>17473379

thoughts?

>>17473374
it does not smell like green irish tweed. I have never smelled irish spring but if a very large portion of normal people smelling Sung says it smells like something so specific as Irish Spring, then it must smell like it. The few ones that say it doesn't are the usual snob enthusiasts that always need to have a more complex and articulated out of their ass analysis to appear smart. Buy it, it's 15 bucks and performs good, you will love it if you want irish spring soap I am sure. (Sung was my first shill before Dakar eheh)
>>17473381
yes but only the edt. It's very good albeit light. Very mellow and fresh.
Didn't say it's bad, just not that great.

>>17473406
>light
No projection?
>not that great
Well none of the hugely popular designers are "great" but I'm looking for the best ones among them
Apparently Eros EDT is inferior to both EDP and Parfum? And Flame is its own thing entirely

>>17473422
it doesn't last long, not sure about projection but it can't be too good either. Still the best of the line and the flankers are all extremely bland and uninspired, no matter the performance.

I had the chance to test Bvlgari's terrae essence, The opening reminded me of Terre D'Hermes mixed with Gucci Absolute then the dry down smells Black Afgano-Terroni, quite good.

>>17473168
What about Dior Homme Sport?

>>17473461
The guy you're responding to is a notorious closeted homosexual, but anyway DHS 2021 is a citrus-centric frag that's very easy to like but honestly quite boring.

So I just ordered Versace Eros EDP because AI bot recommended it and I have too much anxiety to go to a store and actually smell anything.

I also have a perfumer with like 4.9 stars and three thousand reviews on Google Maps in my street and everybody says he makes the most amazing custom scents but I'm too self conscious to even look at his shop when I pass by on my way to/from the gym.

I'm so fucked up, but it's so nice that I can get AI to tell me what to do and then have contactless delivery so even the delivery guy doesn't know I'm ordering perfume like some piece of shit who's trying to fuck.

My collection so far, got the nishane havicat today smells a lot like aventus but with smoother citrus drydown.

>>17473472
I guess you can do that instead of walking into that guy's shop and saying
>"hey, I'm new to this and I don't know what I like - any recommendations?"

>>17473463
Lmao aight, thanks for the reply. I'm looking for a solid elegant but masculine fragrance. Any tips? So far, I've also been reading about Guerlain L'Homme Ideal EDP, the Azzaro Chrome line and just recently the Encre Noir line. I've also looked into some niche stuff but I don't really have a lot of places to test those (and they're a tad too expensive for me). So probably going to a generic designer fragrance retailer to test some stuff. Any tips?

>>17472969
kek

>>17473472
Why bother smelling approachable if you have such anxiety? Should have bought the most audacious barnyard oud instead.

>>17473463
>The guy you're responding to is a notorious closeted homosexual
I unironically think he's the same guy who's been making the gay porn OPs lmao

>>17473479
I can't even go for a haircut to the guy that's been cutting my hair for 10 years unless I feel absolutely perfect about everything that day and I still take a xanax half the time

>>17473494
I have matches on Tinder who are reminding me that it's not a pen pal app but a dating app, so I'm covering all my bases.
I also have a map of all potential venues for dates and I've been scouting them for days. Not going inside though, I'm too chickenshit for that.

Why am I even alive? I should just die.
At least the perfume thing is solved.

I have creed Aventus on the way from Scentbird. What should I blind buy next? I’m thinking either Spicebomb Extreme or Acqua di Gio

>>17473509
I hope you go to therapy or something, anon
not sure you should be thinking about meeting bitches from tinder in that mental state

>>17473472
I want to insult you really badly but it looks like it's rough enough as it is for you buddy, please get better. It's just sad you can't talk to a delivery guy and are buying an frag to attarct women, you'll never touch let alone speak to one at this rate, save money for therapy wtf
>>17473474
this screams
>I'm american
>I don't know what I like
>maybe she will talk to me if I buy this panty-dropper mass-appealing bla bla
>I don't wear perfume, just collect
>>17473509
nvm you are definitely retarded too, you'll die a virgin. Scent recommendation: Bois Imperial.

>>17473522
Not him but I used to have horrible anxiety but also fornicated with PAWGs/BBWs from tinder a lot. Christianity solved the anxiety and precluded the fornication

Bumble is better. Found my wife there

what are your thoughts on this?
I liked it bit it, it was a bit too feminine tho

>>17473509
>Why am I even alive? I should just die
I had social anxiety up until I was 25 that started to fight it. Now I'm 31 and I'm virtually cured.

I also was taking too or three beers just to go for an haircut

>>17473522
>>17473524
I can't go to a perfume shop, how am I going to go to therapy?

And it's pretty much my last chance to have a family so I can't waste time.

I'm not a completely hopeless case though. My body is on point, I make a decent living and the girls like talking to me on the phone (though I had to take xan) so I'm hoping all I need to do is push through to actually go on a date. Scary things are usually much less scary before doing them than when I'm doing them.

>nvm you are definitely retarded too, you'll die a virgin
I'm not a virgin, I had a girlfriend for a year a long time ago. I don't even remember her face but she smelled like vanilla.

>>17473530
>I had social anxiety up until I was 25 that started to fight it. Now I'm 31 and I'm virtually cured.
I was in even worse shape when I got back from Iraq, I'd spent months indoors. Now I'm uncomfortable only with new things and things that have to do with sex or trying to get sex like going on dates or trying to make myself more attractive. It took me months to dare to step into a gym.

>>17473525
>Bumble is better. Found my wife there
That bitch! Did you confront her about it?

>>17473544
>when I got back from Iraq
not an american or a soldier, I was a contractor

>>17473538
you could at least read a self-therapy guidebook like "the feeling good handbook". not saying you shouldn't try if you think it'll help you in some way, but it's really hard to have any kind of good relationship when your shit is all fucked up, especially from online dating

Got my bottle of Blazing Mr Sam. Holy hell, what a scent. Overpriced but still worth the money. Might just become my signature scent honestly

>>17472081
You guys talk about what you'd wear, but what fragrance would you love on a woman?
For me its , Don't Be Shy by Kilian's Love

>>17473474
>https://streamable.com/oj3kgc
maybe buy a non awful looking shelf instead of all these perfumes

>>17473317
>Literally "trust the science bro" but in fragantesque
Neutered AI

>>17473874
White Musk by Body Shop

My last fragrance ran out. Now I have nothing.

I'm going to buy this for 18 bucks and you can't stop me.

>>17473307
>Is Eros that good
It is.
>Which flanker
Does not matter. EDT is enouth.

I'm gonna use my sample of Amouage Royal Tobacco, will they ban for me the offensive scent?

>>17474003
From the gym

What fragrance does he wear?

>>17473474
way too much and absolute trash taste. Burberry touch is based though

jpg ultra male. straight on the chest. it just werks.

>>17473486
just test everything they have

>>17474003
>pop niche
>8.4 on parfumo
>4.2 on fragrantica
No, you won't. They will think you're weird (again), but they will not ban you. At worst they will ask you not to apply fragrances before the gym (to which you will say you just used some scented deodorant).

>>17474140
>you won't
*they won't

>>17473509
>tfw only get likes from ugly girls on tinder and they don't reply to my messages anyway
Should I give up

>>17474146
All of my matches are in their 30s (although none are ugly/fat because I swipe selectively) and I have an irreverent absurdist bio that some of them find funny and ask me about it.

I swipe on younger girls too but no matches under 32 so far.
So I'm guessing that's the issue for you. It's a lot tougher to get attention of women who can literally get millionaires to fly them out just on account of their youth, which is every not ugly not fat girl in her 20s.

>>17474151
I'm 24 and set the age range to 18-25, so that's the problem? I thought women didn't want guys younger than them
>absurdist bio
What do you mean

>>17474153
Women 18-25 are at the peak of their power, especially on dating apps. They could get literally a hundred messages per day on Tinder and who knows how many on Instagram (which is in effect also a dating app). If they're not fat or ugly, they probably have millionaires and celebrities in their DMs.

If I were you, I'd to meet girls in real life instead.

>>absurdist bio
>What do you mean
Just some nonsense. Like "I had a dream about Daisy Duck and Steve Harvey getting it on and I need a mental palate cleanser so dial down your weirdness pls." And they'd sometimes message first something about it.

First time buying aftershave that wasnt just a gift from grandma.

Got pic related because im a poorfag. How did i do?

>>17474170
The most compliments I got on a scent was some supermarket Adidas after shave. So you never know what works for you, and expensive scents are better mostly because they last longer.

>>17474174
yeah i mainly just wanted one that lasted a long time. Every cheap aftershave i've had in the past is usually gone in terms of scent within 2-3 hours

Top 10 CHEAP Fragrances that Smell EXPENSIVE! (2023)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1Lhy6L5ZHM

>>17474168
It's pretty depressing, I've been on the app for 3 months and got about 25 likes. I actually would prefer a girl who's a bit older than me, girls my age are difficult
Thanks for the advice

>>17474170
It's ok. A bit dated, but still ok. Raspberry + cardamom.

One of the most interesting work scents in my collection. Oakmoss and saffron making a sort of floral leather smell, the litchi gives a faint whiff of exotic fruit, the immortelle is bright instead of syrupy and the fir smells like a cold forest. Really unique frag.

>>17474153
> I thought women didn't want guys younger than them
That is far from true, especially for purposes of attraction, women like younger men (as long as they don't look like teenagers)

>>17474205
older women are easier to deal with not because they're nicer/better people but because they're aware of their reduced market value. fuck as many younger women as possible, they'll be out of reach once you hit 30 unless you're tall and have a pretty face or you're willing to pay crazy amounts of money for them.

>>17474212
So as a 24 year old with a good life situation I could try my luck with women in the 25-30 age range?

SOTmorning, one of if not the only scents with alpine spikenard, the speick plant that the company is named for. Its a very fresh citrus scent that kind of smells like lemon pledge, or 4711 with a twist.

> Elegant freshness. Speick Men Eau de Toilette is a uniquely energising and well-balanced scent. Contemporary, masculine and invigorating, the characteristic top note of unique Speick extract is what makes this fragrance so incomparably charismatic. Refreshing notes of lemon grass and petitgrain oil emit a sanguine lightness at the heart of the fragrance while patchouli oil completes the sophisticated composition with a delicately spiced base note. With the unique extract of the high alpine Speick plant from biologically regulated wild harvesting (kbW).

I recommend it for feeling fresh and awake. It only lasts an hour or two, suitable for a $35 freshie.

>>17474213
>they'll be out of reach once you hit 30

LMAO. I’ve fucked more teenage and early twenties girls in my forties that I did when I was that age myself. And I’m definitely not tall and handsome. Lots of chicks that age love a sophisticated older man.

>>17474216
Yeah I think so. Reverse the formula (age/2 + 7) that's supposed to be the youngest you should date. So the oldest women that should date a 24 year old is 34-35. I don't know who made that up it's just a meme but kind of accurate in terms of social acceptability.

>>17474228
All of my friends are at least 5 years older than me, I think I get along better with older people but I always figured older women would have more expectations

>>17474224
Can I say I'm skeptical? I think you've either been overdosing on manosphere red pill content and are mentally masturbating to what you think things will be like when you finally get jacked and get that convertible or whatever.
or
you've been relying on massive income disparity (going to Moldova or Thailand and getting a "girlfriend" there) which is no different than prostitution except easier on the ego and sometimes harder on the wallet.

But just from looking around the real world, girls in their 20s don't generally hook up with guys in their 40s. It happens so rarely that I've seen more obese guys with hot 20 year old than I've seen 40 year old guys with 20 year old girls. I've also done Tinder experiments and from what I can tell most girls in their 20s won't even see profiles of guys in their 40s.

So yeah, (x) doubt

>>17474233
I'm 35 and a lot of women my age are broke, live at home or in with roommates, stuck with useless degrees and no stable career. I got in touch with a girl I grew up with, she always got good grades and went to a fancy private college, I thought she would be successful but she was working as a waitress in California until covid then moved back home and works at her father's business as an office manager. No kids at least, but no room for high expectations.

Why the fuck did I buy this? Ooh it's only $10 and an old school classic, must have it. I don't like it, but I must collect it, anything you could buy in a pharmacy in 1990 appeals to me for some reason.
I guess it's no worse than collecting vintage records.

>>17474276
If you find a woman with daddy issues whose dad wore that when she was a kid, she's going to be really into you.
Or so I've heard in an episode of The Big Bang Theory

>>17473397
zero projection

>>17473474
1mil
hawas
black orchid
are superb

>>17474283
perhaps. I won't be caught wearing it though.
Next up... Brut, Stetson, Preferred Stock. Already got Quorum, Aramis, Old Spice, and some bay rum splash. I actually like bay rum I might put it in a spray bottle.

>>17474293
sounds like you need encre noire

I need a fragrance to suit my outdoors style.
suggest me a good one
no price limit & willing to wear any season/sex/notes

Anyone here tried the new YSL Y EdP Intense yet?

>>17474344
>another flanker of an already uninteresting and uninspired blue line, made by L'Oreal
This is so far at the back of fragrances I want to test during my next store visit that it disappears on the horizon.

Thanks to the anon who recommended Equss a while ago. Picked up a bottle, and it smells wonderful.

best clone houses?

>>17474318
A fragrance that smells like shit? I'm not sure.

>>17474358
Lattafa
Shaik

>>17474358
None. I wish they would once again mix their own potent creations like Al Haramain did in the past The clones always miss their target.

>buy tdh, cant barely smell anything
>1 week later you can actually smell it and it lasts longer than i thought it would
What's up with that, im just glad it wasnt a fake bottle.

Can we go back to gay op images in the next thread please

>Y
>Eros
>Fierce
>DH
Which one is better?

>>17472092
please do not let zino become a meme

>>17474436
iso E Super likes to play tricks on your nose. try not to stick your nose in it all the time and spray back and sides of the neck instead of the front.
TdH has pretty good performance in my experience

>>17474459
DH > Eros > Fierce > Y

>>17474468
the new DH right?

>>17474472
Sorry mate, I never kept the old bottle around to compare it with post 2020 batch. All I have is a blind belief that Dior doesn't fuck around with reformulations like other houses (skimping on ingredients, projection and quality)

>>17474479
But dior homme has been reformulated in 2020 completely, there's no iris anymore

>>17472081
So guys, Erba pura vs Y edp . What should i choose?

>>17474479
Dior is transparent about reformulations, unlike other houses
they're also transparent about the fact that Dior Homme 2020 is basically a new fragrance, completely different to the old one. that's also why they still make the old one under the name Dior Homme Original

>>17474022
An Egoiste clone, by Le Coq Noir

>>17474207
>A bit dated
The Gay Store called, they are running out of you

>layering heavy sprays of Qaa'ed Al Shabaab and Woody Oud for the day

>>17472278
*blocks you’re path*

Speaking of this though, are the reformulation rumours true? It doesn’t really matter to me because I have a bottle from the 2019 batch, but all the recent reviews seem to say the new screw-top bottles have piss poor longevity, which absolutely shouldn’t be the case

>>17474541
peak "I wear it for myself" moment

>>17474459
for me its fierce

>>17474609
Too bad the performance is fucking garbage now.

How to smell like a persian barber?

>>17474459
>Eros
this
pulls compliments for me

>>17474622
Compliments from whom?

>just ordered Eros based on fragrantica scores

>>17474622
EDP or Parfum? EDT is too juvenile imo

>>17474624
younger ladies
I'm 44

>>17474625
>EDP or Parfum? EDT
I got the old edt, pre edp
100% it does not matter. Get the cheapest

>>17474631
>it does not matter.
Parfum has ambroxan which makes it a blue frag unlike EDT, I'd say they're pretty different
Flame is its own thing entirely but not everyone likes cinnamon so it's riskier

>>17474632
>Flame is
garbage
get the OG

>>17474552
I dunno. I bought a lot over the years and all my stuff is "vintage" by now.

"Now the reformulation part. Looking back at all the EU and IFRA restriction updates, and checking against the ingredients list of Chic old & new packaging, we can try to make some conclusions. 2 key perfumery ingredients, Lilial and Lyral were banned in 2021, and formulas had to be gradually adjusted up until the cut off date. Known as the most common lily of the valley ingredients, these 2 were 10 times more important than oakmoss. People will cry over oakmoss but only a minority knows the impact of Lilial/Lyral ban on perfumery.
I can assure you that, regardless of men/women, designer/niche, wherever you pick a scent, there's a good chance they featured either or both originally. And they were already marked as mandatory as labeling requirements so it is easy to just check ingredients list of old packages vs today, you will notice 2 items missing from the old ones:

Lilial's chemical name: Butylphenyl methylpropional
Lyral's chemical name: Hydroxyisohexyl 3-cyclohexene carboxaldehyde

Lyral was the first one cut-off. For a short period, certain batches still mention Lilial. Then it's gone too.

In fact, no real substitutes discovered yet even though a lot of great muguet materials out there, especially Lyral, is still irreplaceable, perhaps not in terms of scent but in terms of longevity, its effect on the entire blend, fixative properties etc.)

Today, we see Chic's ingredient list is featuring Hydroxycitronellal, one of the oldest and another very common muguet material. It's safe to assume that it is not the only one, pretty sure there's other varieties added to try to close the huge gap of Lyral/Lilial, but we can't see it because not every muguet material is mandatory for labeling. We can also see Hexyl Cinnamal (an oily waxy spicy-fruity jasmine ingredient) is added into the mix. Again, this could be that at previous times labeling requirements were different, so I'm just trying to draw conclusions without being 100% sure."

>>17473472
Listen anon, if you’re even half as insecure and anxious as you describe, I don’t know what the hell you hope to get out of wearing a fragrance. Literally the entire goal of this shit, the ideal result, is to get people complimenting and chatting with you because of how good you smell. It’s a target you put on yourself intentionally — if you’re not amenable to that or lack the confidence to follow through, you’ll just be a nuisance invading other people’s senses.

I recommend you insert yourself into more social situations, events and clubs that interest you. Exposure is the only therapy here. Once you can finally stand in a room full of people and not feel like an alien, then look into having that perfumer make you something custom and fun.

>>17474652
Based. So is that why prices are increasing? Or are the Covid lockdowns catching up to perfumery? Last year I was buying $40 200ml bottles of Guerlain vetiver. Now it’s $80 for 100ml bottles on eBay.

>>17474682
>why prices are increasing
https://austrianeconomics.fandom.com/wiki/Inflation

>saw drakkar noir at Marshalls for like $30
>whynot.jpg
>smell like a boomer now
It ain't bad, I guess.

why is mugler so shit now
did ifra fuck their formulations up too much?

>>17474692
Don’t understand why they strayed so far away from the 80’s style. I’ve only smelled it via Dakar but the mossy freshness of that is just fucking addicting, if that original DK was truly like that they have fumbled the ball big time

>>17474692
What does it smell like?

Completely timeless and universal for most occasions
Floris.89

>>17474715
Yep. Floris makes really good stuff and is underrated. Santal, JF, Elite, and Neroli Voyage are all top notch too.

What role would Encre Noire Sport fill in my collection? Is it just a nice frag for poorfags?

Post your daily drivers
(I only use this because it doesn’t suffocate me when I work - I work in the heat outdoors. Also please send recommendations for light fresh scents to possibly upgrade to okthxbye)

>>17474730
the "refreshing summer frag that's not boring and generic while also being pretty normie-friendly" niche
a rare feat. too bad the performance sucks

>>17474692
>another retard wasting money on a shit reformed frag
you never learn

Just recently blind bought pic related and did a proper wearing today. This smells so fucking good bros. My nuts feel huge right now. I know the current formulation isn't as strong as the vintage, but damn there was a definite spike in my test while I'm wearing it. Any similar smells to this? Is the vintage worth getting? Rec me some t-spiking frags that gave you some big fuckin nuts

>>17474620
Hmm, Parisian barbers smell like something fancy, but accessible - Guerlain Homme

>>17474620
40 sprays of Paco Rabanne 1 Million tester and not washing afterwards

>>17474652
Is there anyone who knows about inner workings of perfume industry that can explain if those restrictions have legit reasons, or are just cope?
We are headed to the darkest timeline with short-lasting fragrances and shitty reformulations

>>17473472
Hope you check in with us here and there brother, it's tough to break out of one's shell, but you can do it, one small step at a time

>>17474748
Less performance=more sprays=more sales= more money for JOOS

>>17474744
No no no, not Parisian. Persian.
Middle eastern dudes who knock you the fuck out when they walk past you.

>>17474552
It's dead, Jim.

>>17474620
My barber is Iranian and uses a Sauvage clone. Hope that helps.

>>17474737
It still smells good, though.

>>17474744
>>17474745
I know, I'm samefagging

>>17474748
People blame ifra, but they follow eu, they have some allergy commission/organization or whatever they call it.

>>17474753
Probably something to it in some cases, but I think many companies would prefer to maintain the high quality and not having to go through the hassle of reformulating their flagship fragrances in order to be compliant. Smaller niche brands don't win anything from it.

>>17474668
I'd wear the fragrance just as an accessory on a date, I wouldn't wear it anywhere else. And I figure going on a date would be exposure therapy. Picking out events I'm not interested in to work out my social muscles seems kind of roundabout. I just need that one push and to hold my spaghetti over a cup of coffee and I'll

Not related to what you were saying, but I'm currently listening to the upstairs neighbor getting spanked. Snap.... moan.... snap... moan. Fucking cheap ass cardboard building...

>>17474687
So Inflation because government lockdowns and mass printing because our governments are corrupt. Thanks anon

>>17474798
I mean fair enough, but I think it’s an awful idea to treat dating as your primary vehicle for getting social experience, especially when your starting point is such crippling anxiety that you can’t even enter a busy store. If you don’t get your head unfucked and learn to relax, these dates, assuming you can even land them, could very well leave you feeling even more inept and socially traumatized. You might never leave your house again.

>>17474844
No idea why people (I won't say zoomers) can't into productive experiences, it's all straight to fucking, and then back to looking at their phones. Here are some at the top of my head:
>dog shelter
>community activities (ex. gardening, soup kitchens)
>yoga class
>martial art class
>starting a terrible band
>book club
We had two people with crippling anxiety and depression blossom into sociable individuals in our choir

>>17473538
I seriously fucking hate zoomers, I hate you mindbroken by smartphones, socially crippled subhuman generation. You are literally the worst generation to ever exist

>>17474888
>>17474869
I'm 41. At a best guess I was socially crippled by peer rejection way before even the internet was common.

My fiancee and I are planning our wedding, and fragrances to wear for the day is a subject that's come up. It's hard to land on a pair that's complementary, understated and classy. So far we're thinking Bo for me and Rose Struck for her - leaning for natural woody/floral accords. Any recommendations?

>>17474953
It would be Chypre Palatin for me. I have never bothered thinking about a matching pair for it.

>>17474652
this is probably why a lot of really obviously good selling frags are discontinued or are really sparsely found, I doubt most frag houses would bother reformulating most of their lines just to fit ifra regulations

>>17474953
>Any recommendations
No. Marriage is the dumbest idea for 2023. Better save cash to buy the dip.

Neroli portofino just smells like 4711. Tom ford has to be the most overpriced shit brand in the fragrance game

>>17474760
cope, it's wasted money in 2023. Not buying Dakar equals being a coping polface chud screaming about muh the west muh tradition muh sandniggers

>>17475051
I have Dakar, so I don't need to cope. Drakkar Noir still smells good.

Neu Thread
>>17475086
>>17475086
>>17475086

>>17474744
Hello /fa/shists, I have a quick question, for you experts out there. So I went window shopping, and after that I went to test out perfumes, really liked versache eros or versache in general was nice, ck mankind legacy smelt like something fresh and inoffensive, sauvage was alright I guess, rochas moustache was not bad. Anyway, theese I didn't hate, the rest were quite shit. What are your opinions on these perfumes, which is the best or the most worth, and what can you reccomend, dear /fa/chists?

>>17474715
English. Into the trash

>>17474693
The profile is so good bros, I’m afraid I’m gonna be dissappinted if I actully smell it

>>17474713
It smells basic af imo, like any run of the mill body wash scent. Probably because they all copied drakkar after it came out. It might’ve been good in the past but I doubt anyone would even notice you’re wearing a scent if you put it on now.

>>17473524
You are a sad strange little man, and you have my pity