/fa/ - Fashion

IS there really any problem with Grant Stones? I keep hearing "CHYNA CHYNA CHYNA" but of all the boots to get shittalked, they have to be the ones that I never see blatant QC issues on. Them and Carmina.

>>17461704
>shell engineers
King of the Gays

>>17461400
>Suede enjoyers, defend yourselves
Exhibit A:

>>17461727
poop brown

>>17461400
>Suede enjoyers, defend yourselves
Exhibit B:

>>17461400
>Suede enjoyers, defend yourselves
Exhibit C:

tl;dr My shoes look better than yours, come in more colors, easier to clean and can be unlined and wore with any sock.

>>17461733
*drops chicken grease*

>>17461728
>Brown rough-out boots
POOP BROWN
>Leather from animal section where poop actually comes from
OH MY GOD BESPOKE HORSE BUTT

>>17461739
Anon if your poop is that dark you might have internal bleeding

>>17461738
No problem bud
>Pssffft Psffft
>scrub scrub
Happens to the best of us.
>walk through literal mud
>pssft psfft
>scrub scrub

Oh you can't scrub yours with a wire brush because that will de-laminate it? That sucks, bro.

>>17461746
based
you know it's a tough boot when you need a brass brush to clean it

>>17461704
Is my memory bad or did engineer style boots have an upsurge in popularity late 00's/early 2010's with more mainstream boot makers (e.g. Chippewa, Redwing, etc.) before vanishing into the realm of the more luxury side? It's a style I like, but seems like you can only find them if you're going to drop $700+.

>>17461766
Was it all a dream?

>>17461746
Do those eraser blocks actually work? I got an old nubuck couch to clean up.

>>17461766
engies have always been more expensive than your standard style of boots because of the larger uninterrupted panels of leather. rw and chippewa stopped making because nobody is buying

>>17461787
They do. But like actual erasers, they leave behind 'rubbings' that you should vacuum up.
They also only work on some stains, dirt, smears, and grease? Perfect. Dust, powdery sand, and grime? vacuum, spray, and use the brush to remove scuffs.

>>17461704
Who else stocks Whites? I remember a big sale last year at an online outlet but cant remember the name for the life of me. Id scour their retailers but there's quite a few

>>17461817
Probably Baker shoes.

Earthkeepers as my daily drivers, including at work sometimes and playing casual tennis?

>>17461821
sex

>Peppe shoes

>>17461817
division road
bakers

>>17461712
nope they're great and quite frankly feel underpriced
leathers with pedigree, full leather insole, leather heel counter and gyw @$330-$400 and even cheaper if you bought last year pre price raise
additionally the leo last is extremely comfy ad they stock e and ee on all boots
all boots are inspected and repacked in the usa
the reason everyone sounds like a shill is theyre that good

>>17461808
Good to know, I'll give 'em a go.

>>17461820
>>17461831
thanks bros

>>17461834
But Muh China can’t make good product
because muh feeling telling me so.

>>17461859
kyle needs to realise his phone and computer are made in china
things made in china are shit if you want them to be and spec them that way

Speaking of Grant Stone
How good do these 'flesh' boots look IRL(Tan Essex)? I've never seen one of this paleness before, I would assume it would crease something terrible.

>>17461881
they'll look more like a dark honey overtime
the initial color is eye-catching though

>>17461743
So what? I can bleed internally if I want to

>>17461766
Redwing definitely used to make them but discontinued them by the time I remembered they existed

>>17461863
Literal Kyle at Baker sells boots from China.

>>17461905
Why do they keep doing that? Is it because heritage boots just sell better to hipsters? (i own two pairs of IRs btw)

>>17461898
How do these type of boots compare in terms of looks? I don't know the 'proper' name for them, I just call them indy-like boots.

>>17461998
moc toe

>>17461999
Are these considered moc toe? Just less pronounced.

>>17461827
After just trying them on, I decided no. The heel isn’t big enough - it’s smaller than the standard Timbs. I want to be taller so I think I will get Air Force 1s.

>>17461995
> Is it because heritage boots just sell better to hipsters?

Funny you mention that because they just launched another level of their heritage line where they sell 40 year old used pairs from their site.

>>17462021
Wait are you serious?

sup /btg/. i have several plastic shoe trees. is there a way to make them moisture absorbent like cedarwood? or are my plastic shoe trees enough for my shoes?

>>17462064
wrap them in newspaper
Ideally throw them out and pay the extra coin for cedar shoe trees.

I am looking for a decent looking chelsea boot.

I need something more on the rugged side, will be for a snowy environment.

Don't need anything terribly fancy, trying to stay under 200

>>17462113

Not boots, but these are my Red Wing Postman 101s. Worn daily to work for ~4 months. Sure feels and looks longer.

>>17462113
so far blundstone and danner seem to be the two forerunners, but I'd appreciate any other suggestions as well

>>17461995
Red Wing is having issues. They lost a ton of their older skilled workers during covid and they have discontinued lots of boots and their supply chain has suffered as a result. Also, quality control is in the gutter. They are still good boots, but until they get all their new hires up to speed, you might want to wait. They are releasing 4 new boots this year, though. I think they are all moc toes in different colors. I think one is green, and one is black cherry excalibur.

>>17461766
That's a lot of leather. Probably would be at least $500 from any maker. I know you can buy them from China via Aliexpress. It's definitely a gamble, but I'd try it if they could make a size 47, but I think they only go up to 45.

>>17461881
They seem to have a slight pink tone when new. They are intriguing, and on sale, but not in my size.

>>17462135
They have my size but not my width (E instead of D). I'm not sure about Grant Stone lasts and idk if going a width bigger will affect anything. I'm crazy enough to give it a chance if the difference isn't that great

any western boot brand recommendations?

>>17462196
No

do you guys put on shoe trees immediately or after like 2 hours to let them dry?

>>17462125
>wearing them daily
Postmans do crease a lot, especially when they don't fit perfectly. They're comfy and solid though.

>>17462196
Cowboy boots?

seeking a pair of boots (or derbys) as I only wear trainers atm and need some fit variety. I want something not made in chinese/indian factories-- any recs in reasonable price range? (or at least names so i can hunt second hand)

thank u anons

>>17462204
if it was a sweaty day i wait 30 minutes or so to put them in.

are there any boots like redwing blacksmith? preferably sold in Europe

>>17462206
I got a second pair of work shoes, now. But I will say these are now the comfiest shoes I've ever worn.

>>17461746
Based, this man convinced me to buy suede next time

why does everyone prefer red wing iron rangers when there's blacksmith and other, prettier options? the cap toe just looks hideous

>>17462387
>Why do people have different preferences.
Its a true mystery.

$200 ish brands that are not Thursday recommendation:
>Meermin
>Berwick
>Orbans
>Herring shoes house brand
>Loake on Herring shoes
>Loding
>Skolyx house brand
>Yanko

>>17462409
Some local leather shops in Europe usually also have very well made for the price(200-400€) unbranded boots, usually made in good Portuguese or Spanish factories that also manufacture for big brands.

>>17462409
Yanko on sale is great value, horween cxl, service boot style, not a potato last like turdsdays.

>>17462409
Just got some orban's jhodpurs and can recommend, much better than the scarosso ones I returned.

I want to get some plain belgian loafers next, looking at yanko but sceptical about the deerskin.

Im gonna go find myself some nice shinki hikaku boots, all I have is some shoes

UK posters.

I want a pair of chelsea boots with a lug sole and good year welt that I can walk through mud in but clean them up as and when I want to wear them somewhere. I found the perfect pair but they were too small and seem to be discontinued.

Recommendations are appreciated.

>>17462603
>good year welt
Why?

>>17462603
check trickers maybe

>>17462572
Are you a banker or a lawyer?

>>17462126
fuck blundstone. Sold out to chinks.
redbacks or rossi

>>17462196
Rios of Mercedes
>>17462261
Origin is as American-made as possible down to where they source their materials from

>>17462591
when I see boots with this weird brown leather (but no sign of wear or creasing) built in the brogue style, I assume it's cheap hindu shit.
Why pick the boot style with the most small panels if you were going to use a good leather?

>>17462618
luckily museum calf is already out again, hideous

>>17462649
They're calling that museum calf? lol

>>17461998
indy boots designed by a duck

>>17462204
>do you guys put on shoe trees immediately
this helps kill the shoe

>>17462204
i wait 20 mins or so

If I was a woman I'm buying these instantly.

>>17461998
I will never understand the brass
why did they not just make a plain toe boot and capture the viberg 310 market at the low end
why is the moc so far in?
why not just make an Ottawa without the split if you want to make a moc toe?
it's just a strange looking boot

>>17461998
Anyone own these and the Trubalance?
Does Grant have a last as roomy as the latter?

>>17462029
Yeah, it mostly pops up on their instagram page and it'll usually be "Hey we found this old pair of boots and cleaned them up, now they're up on the store". Sometimes it'll be random hats or shirts, etc. too

>>17462904
no but im waiting for a carmina moc toe MTO, will report on it once i get it in like 50 days probably.

>>17462904
>Does Grant have a last as roomy as the latter?
just buy e or eee

>>17462935
Worried about toe room.

>>17461898
>>17462135
I'm taking the plunge on them, I'll let /btg/ know how it goes.

>>17462427
Are Yanko chelseas worth it at €300?

>>17463006
what else is there at the 300 mark?

Is the concept of more money = more boot true? Because I don't see anything wrong with IRs or Grant Stones. Are $600 dollar boots just on a different level or is it a huge meme?

>>17463279
The best tier of boots is a hand welted, full grain vege-tanned that would last a lifetime, I'd guess it's a sound investment. You can go bespoke if you want even more exclusivity but im more partial to bespoke for footwear

>>17463279
depends on use
if its just to walk around in gyw is fine
for really bad conditions youd want a handwelt or stichdown to avoid possible gemmig failure but beyond around $500-$600 your paying for other things like aesthetics, availability, mto, rear leather etc

>>17463302
So if I were in that line of work, that's when I would get Whites or Nicks
Otherwise something like Vibergs, Carmina, C&J?

>>17463324
yeah unless youre always outdoors like a firefighter or linesman or something then then regular gyw boots will do

>>17463346
So my alternative poorfag options are Grant Stones, Trumans, basically the divide is between $400 and below/above?

>>17463348
not quite because you can get stuff like trickers that arent pnw tier build but pnw tier expensive
the divide is really gyw vs handwelt and stichdown but even then theres other things like leather thickness, stiffener materials, stitch density, number of stitches and a bunch of other shit but all of that is getting into the weeds
once you cross the $300 barrier and its not a pure fashion brand itll be hard to destroy the boots unless you spend 17hours a day walking 70 miles in hot acidic mud with no rotation or something silly

>>17463279
from RWs to Whites you go from leather + cork to full leather and arch support on a better last. i personally wish i didn't so much on my rw collection and instead jumped straight to whites

>>17463373
I have RWs and Grant Stones, I'm thinking of taking the plunge on Whites. Is the difference that great?

>>17462925
Detroit EE last?

>>17463378
for me yes absolutely here are my rw875s

>>17463421
That's impressive.
How much did you spend on your RW collection before taking the plunge on Whites?

>>17463422
>875s
>IR
>beckman

>>17463457
cool pattern too bad truman only used it for that

>>17462871
Do it anyway pussy.

>>17463468
uh oh. I may be too far down the rabbit hole.
>IRs (2 pairs, one thrifted)
>875s

Question on toeboxes and celastic toes etc.:
I know stretchage in the toebox is basically impossible with something with the ubiquitous plastic stiffener, but what if you had proper all leather toecaps like with say Vass?
Is there some give in them or can they be made to give with a stretching device in the toe?

One of my fucking feet has the problem where the big toe gets pinched inwards by almond toes and I fucking hate it as the other foot has no damned problem.
Can full leather, no celastic. toes be stretched or am I SOL forever wearing stuff like the Alden Trubalance? I really really like the look of the relatively clunky Vass 3636 and Budapest lasts.

>>17463541
If you have a pressure point, it's absolutely worth the effort if you can't return them.
If you can return them, get your own size.

Is Horsebutt even any good? I'll custom order whites in it if so

>24 week lead time
Hey Whitesbros wtf

>>17463601
handwelting takes time

>>17462387
They don't sell the Beckman anymore, that's why.

>>17463279
I personally don't think I'd ever need anything more than Red Wings and Grant Stones. But I'm still less than a year into liking boots.

>>17463607
Fair enough, but can I ask for a test shoe to see if the last will even fit me?

>>17462387
Iron Rangers are the ones they have in store. You go into a store, ask for a boot, it'll be Iron Rangers
The toe cap looks like shit, everyone agrees. It makes a bulbous front of the boot look bloated beyond repair and it sucks. Everyone knows it.

>>17463618
I'm kind of in the same boat at the moment. I really don't see how much more "durable" a boot needs to be. I do know that I'm already paranoid about my $350 dollar boots so I can't imagine how much worse that would get with a $600 boot.

>>17462387
Red Wing is kind of like the Apple of the boot world. People buy them because they are Red Wings, and other people will compliment them because they know they are Red Wings. It's just a massive circle jerk. That said, there is nothing wrong with them, I just like their moc toes a lot better.

>>17463630
I started my boot journey pampering a pair of Thursday boots. 4 months later and I'm working daily in shell cordovan boots. The paranoia goes away once you actually get a few scratches and learn it's not a big deal.

>>17463644
I got Red Wings because that's the most I can afford. That being said, I don't think I really need more. The quality of the materials and the construction are so good, I'm unsure a 600-800 boot would be worth it in terms of the jump in the ratio price/quality. I don't think I've seen anyone complaining about RW quality. Would I buy Nick's, White's or something like that if I cpuld afford it? Probably. Would I actually need it? Probably not.

>>17463613
I've heard they're gonna bring them back.

>>17463541
A big no. All stiffener job is stay to stiff, not stretchable.

up to what temperatures would you wear leather boots? does canvas on the sides makes a lot difference?

>>17463408
Yes, not EEE because i thought that's too wide for me but it should still be plenty wide from what i read online.

Guys, I wore my Indys out with friends one night and nobody said a thing so I thought fine, no one will ask how much they cost
But last night I went to a birthday party and took them off at the entrance and for some reason people became obsessed with them and started asking me all sorts of questions

>>17463823
Not many people pay attention to what shoes others are wearing.

>>17463825
I did not know what to say so I said "I got them from a German site that had them 50% off because they stopped selling the brand"

And then my friend said "OK can you send me the link tomorrow?"

what do I do

>>17463829
Is there a reason you wanna hide how much they cost to your friends?

>>17463831
Yes
My friends do not make as much money as I do

>>17463833
But I guess they know that already, right?

>>17463838
Yes they do, but it's still inconsiderate to talk about spending hundreds of euros on a pair of shoes when one member of the group is probably getting fired soon

>>17463829
heh i had this happen with my Galways, i said i bought them from a mall in London. You fucked up saying you bought it online.

>>17463850
Why would I say I bought it from a mall in London when I live in a different country

>>17463864
because then they don't bother trying to ask where to get your boots from?

>>17463870
sorry anon it was a bad joke

>>17463800
Please update when time comes. Do you have a trubalance to compare with when the time comes?

>>17463829
Just don't do it you german autist.
Just forget to do it.

>>17463886
no i only have barrie sadly, detroit is quite a lot more similar to plaza in terms of looks though.

>>17463823
wtf is indys and how much do they cost

>>17463934
this is why I only get wide round toed lasts

this guy dyed his tan chelseas black and then added a ridgeway sole

>>17463934
Oxford with jeans is a crime.

>>17463939
Allrnd Edmonds 405, also called Indys because Indinan Jones wore them.
I've heard they dropped in quality and aren't worth the 650 they cost anymore.
Are there any worthwhile alternatives?

>>17463823
Is this a bad thing?
That's a good conversation starter

>>17463769
Look up desert boots, they're cool and comfy

>>17464058
>Are there any worthwhile alternatives?
These things that grant stone makes:
>>17461998
They're priced appropriately and made better, no synthetics.

>>17464058
Indys are not Allen Edmonds

>>17463939
It's an Alden boot

>>17463934
>>17464041
Those jeans are a crime all by themselves.

>>17463934
based

>>17464033
why buy tan just to ruin it?

>>17463939
Orthopedic workboot that Harrison Ford autistically insisted he wear when filming Raiders of the Lost Ark instead of the Redwings Spielberg was paid to shill because he found them so comfy from the days when he did actual prole work and not pedowood blockbusters. It has an actual name but everyone calls them Alden "Indy's".
Comfortable, but now not worth the money unless you really want them. Alden's QC is ass too.

>>17464144
This. What a tard. They look like they're Tricker's so maybe 2nds from the sale? Still £250 "on sale" though.

>>17464076
ill never understand the brass = indy meme

>>17463928
>>17463934

>>17464144
the finish is also a lot worse than if he had just bought black chelseas

and the abomination of the week award goes to...

>>17464316
what? you dont like the classic american service sneaker?

>>17461704
Where do you guys get your boot trees from?

captivated by how bad these are

Are Fryes still good quality? Heard awesome things back in the day but wondering if covid fucked them up like everything else.

>>17463279
I can't really speak on fashion boots, when you get into that there's upcharges for all kinds of random features that don't really help durability or comfort quality. But I can say that boots are one of the few items, in my experience, where spending a bit extra is worth it. A pair of $50 work boots compared to $200 is night-and-day in terms of durability, comfort, build quality etc.

>>17464400
they were terrible long before covid dude

>>17464361
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDg0dklwW5g

>>17464354
I have a single pair of boot trees and I regret them
I knew they would be unwieldy but I wanted them for the novelty factor

Anyway I don't think there's a point to boot trees, just shoe trees is good enough

>>17464422
I wanted some support in the shaft of the boot. I have a pair of engineers that lay limp with just a typical cedar shoe tree. Right now I’m just using socks to stuff the boot shaft but wanted something a bit more solid.

>>17464439
just embrace the way the shaft looks

>>17464316
>>17464350
>that grain break
>high top sneakers
>speedhooks
>poo brown
no doubt its from reddit but who made that abomination?

>>17464153
I mean..

>he doesn't know about the ae sneaker conversion line

you were blessed to have been unaware

>>17464422
You can't fight gravity.

>>17464521
>AE
yikes
>ynr the carmina sneaker

>>17463934
>>17463928
Anyone got any more cringe fits like this?

your longwins arent safe

>>17464526
not terrible but they dont have a last that can do a sneaker

>>17464521
Not kidding these are probably considered stylish today.

>>17464531
well nobody bats an eye if you wear sneakers with a suit nowadays
why not make a park ave sneaker?

Stacy Adams are cheap, but seem worse than Thursday tier? Even in their website pics the leather looks bad.

>>17464512
allen edmonds

>>17464576
>fashion brand trash
well yeah

>>17464531
Not in serious circles.

>>17464589
I saw a guy at work wearing them and they looked great, but price tells you everything. I knew they were way too cheap to be good.

>>17464576
looks like a plastic coated Higgins mill

Do I really need to put a shoe tree in my boots? Why not let the leather form to my feet instead of the shoe tree stretching it out?

Nicks is gonna drop a Munson inspired last

>>17464636

>>17464636
Anyone have luck with Munson-alikes who also like the Trubalance?
Alden has their 379x but I've never tried it.

>>17464529
just google "jeans and sheux"

>>17464636
What’s different about it?

>>17464533
I mean
I kind of like it
Would like it more if it wasn't AE

Why do people call vibergs 'reddit' tier?

>>17464694
Most of those look bad, some look good if they weren't baggy. Is there a way to keep from falling into this?
#1 thing I can see is "Buy jeans that fit"

>>17464796
Things I don't like = reddit.

For a shoe like this, where the leather is darker around the seams and toe, how would one polish it to keep that gradient?

>>17464859
neutral polish
desu you should almost always use neutral products unless you want to add colour

>>17464796
Good boots per se
Just backed by consumerism which can be off putting

>>17464880
I get it. But if I want a dress cap, there's no real comparison, right?

>>17464880
So the non consoomer choice would be something like Carmina?
Hesitating to say Whites because I see them pushed just as hard, if not moreso.

i do not need a third pair
i do not need a third pair
i do not need a third pair

>>17461704
hello boot frens. i am going to be getting my first pair of nice boots soon, but i had a question for you. i'm set on the white's mp boots, but they have two variants. what's the difference between the sherman and m1tc? is one of these better than the other or is it just personal preference? also, if you guys are interested i will try to get pictured when i go there to get sized since an anon on /int/ mentioned it.

>>17464980
Different heel sizes IIRC, look at them from the back.

>People keep shilling whites
>Trench boots look better and are cheaper
I thought they had leather outsoles, too.

>>17464809
yeah, the main issue with those is that the jeans are too long, too baggy, and paired with obviously formal shoes.
yeah, just wear jeans that fit, and don't wear formal shoes with jeans.

>>17465055
I guess how formal is 'too formal', only reason I ask is many of those just appear to be regular shoes/boots that aren't workwear but are heritage.

New here, opinions on Allen Edmonds's? Specifically looking at something like Higgins Mill boots

I just want a nice quality boot that is somewhat unique, not something you'll see 20 other dudes wearing on the street, and not too formal or anything, not to uptight or whatever. Would really appreciate some recs.

>>17463378
I have five pairs of Fryes and one pair of Whites.
Yes, I need to wear my Fryes so my fits work, but goddamn, the White's are so much more comfortable it isn't funny.
I can't spend more money on boots right now so I have to really plan for my second pair of White's because I want to be done with these Fryes.

>>17465080
You have to be REALLY, REALLY careful with AE. Reason being: their QC has gone down the toilet as of late. A lot of their stuff has flagrant quality issues that aren't rejected as seconds and instead simply sold.

That said, their more expensive stuff hasn't been hit by it just yet as far as I know. I would, if you're looking for an alternative companion to the Higgins Mill boots, consider the Carmina Jumpers or the Oak Street Trench boot

>>17465091
I can put in for Whites and have one in six months, or I can buy vibergs and get them this week. Which would you do?

>>17465095
Vibergs aren't dressy enough for the office, and not tough enough for the trail.

>>17465059
Eh, it's hard to tell which ones you're referring to, as the "jeans and sheux" thing is a now-inactive Tumblr.
You're probably not going to fall into looking cringe by accident, don't worry about it, bro :)

>>17465101
>Vibergs aren't dressy enough for the office

>>17465105
Oh, I meant the instagram.

>>17465101
Yo this dude is a world leader! Biden is right here posting with us bros

>>17465101
Disliking Viberg makes you a redditor. Fuck off.

>>17463700
Only thing wrong with Red Wing right now is quality control. They lost a lot of good workers during covid, and the new hires don't compare. If you buy new boots right now you have to inspect the fuck out of them. But yeah, if you get good ones they are great boots.

>>17465055
>>17465059
There are tiers of formality. I should make a chart or something of the levels and how they can overlap. Black dress shoes can be worn with jeans, usually, no problem. Dark brown, maybe, tan - no. Also, the more casual the shoe, the better. Loafers will look okay, oxfords will not.

>>17465157
That seems fine, right? Jeans + boat shoes.
Would it be OK if they were brown suede?

>>17465160
Yes the pic is, in my opinion, a fine look. Maybe with some slightly better fitting jeans. Brown suede? It depends on the shoe. Post pic?

>>17465160
those aren't even close to boat shoes wtf are you on

>>17465168
Bath salts and amaretto

>>17464623
>Why not let the leather form to my feet
It's more about preventing the leather from forming to nothing; i.e. collapsing, wrinkling and curling up in all the wrong places when not being worn.

>>17465157
Actually tan shoes can be worn with jeans, it's just about how formal the shoe is, and how casual the outfit is. They have to gel somewhat. Like, if the shoe is pretty formal, wear a blazer and button up, or if the shoe is more casual, anything is fine. A sweater, button up or whatever.

>>17465157
Nothing wrong with black. Color has little bearing compares to formality.
Oxford = death no

Imma be real with you guys

Chukkas>chelseas and it's not even close.

>>17465363
Chukkas look unfinished, like it's the first shoe you make in shoemaking school.

>>17465365
That's a positive though. They're minimalistic and not overdesigned. They're not trying too hard

>>17465377
If you’re a wearing a fucking chukka you’re trying hard. What are you even talking about

>>17465377
They're not minimalistic, they're crude.

>>17465418
Trying hard to what exactly

>>17461704
Got these Santoni Chelsea Boots for 270€. Any advice? Im 6'4 so i wont look like a coping manlet

>>17461704
What kind of boot oil should I use for harsh, salty, and we Northeast winters? Is mink oil the move? My boots are black, so there's no worry about discoloration.

Convince me to spend or not to spend €350 on these beauties.

>>17465652
You'll get another 350 with your paycheck next month. It's like they were never gone.

>>17465652
you probably don't have the wardrobe or demeanor to pull them off
there
saved you 350 crumpets
the fact that you're asking here means there's an underlying doubt
if you doubt it means you're not going to buy it anyway

>>17465643
any will be fine, just use obenaufs really

>>17465643
Obenaufs beeswax formula, it does a great job at keeping out salt and harsh moisture.

>>17465418
is anything short of sneakers trying too hard to you

>>17465695
>>17465705
Thanks boys

>>17465708
Because for most people, it is.
We're now to the point where anything above socks and sandals is trying too hard.

>>17465640
NICE CATCH
Where did you get them? Try pairing them with dark/gray slacks to bring out the brown hues, always remember to wear a brown belt/accents with it.

>>17465714
>We're now to the point where anything above socks and sandals is trying too hard.
I hate this. Why is everything dumbed down and low effort?

>>17465666
>Satan telling me to consoom
>>17465672
And rude anon telling me not to
I can afford them and have the wardrobe to match, just not sure if I should be buying more boots right now.
>>17465769
Praise the heavens I am not Am*rican.

>>17465794
What other boots do you have? Do you have French rangers? Because if not then you know what to do.

>>17465769
Social Media idolizes poverty culture, because that is the kind of person who ends up becoming its main influencers. So whatever the poorest strata of society are doing, that's what ends up on Tiktok and Youtube, which becomes the new norm.

what's the sizing of Danner Mountain Lights? I wear size 10 converse & vans comfortably for reference

>>17465643
obernauf paste, easiest to do in front of a fire or with a heat gun

>>17465157
The look in that pic is on trend currently.
Maybe with slightly different boots.

>>17465841
>I predict many destroyed pant cuffs

skinny ankles, not even once

>>17465851
Yeah it's called heel drag, zoomers love it.

>>17465652
>oxford boot
what are you planning to wear with those?

>>17465872
Yeah I remember 2001. I still have old chinos from like 13 years ago with trashed cuffs.

I can't decide bros...

>>17465890
>suede chukka getting eliminated
oof

>>17465870
curious. boot id please. does the boot tongue feel uncomfortable scrunched and pressed up on the shaft like that?

>>17465894
eastman tanker boots

>>17465870
nice design

>>17465059
In my book:

Oxfords are to be worn with a suit only.
Suede oxfords, loafers, NST derbies, balmoral boots are more 'business casual' but definitely not for jeans.
PTBs, plain toe derbies (at least 4 eyelets), chelseas, chukkas, dress boots, boat shoes can be jeans territory but not these sloppy baggy fits.
Sneakers, service boots, engineers and the like are strictly casual territory. Jeans, chinos, maybe cords and that's it.

I could be wrong

>>17465909
Correct opinion imo

>>17465909
That's about right.

>>17465890
not a fan of suede, boots are more winterish shoes for me

Are you supposed to measure width diagonally like this?

I measured mine across left to right

>>17465923
you want to take the measurement at the widest point, if its at a slight angle its ok

>>17465892
I do like them but the leather chukkas are cleaner imo.

I'm really torn between the Chelseas or the chukkas. I'd honestly like both, but this is my first pair of proper boots so I will only get one pair.

I think the chukkas have more personality, but as some anons in here said they do look a bit unfinished

>>17465890
Out of all of these I'd have gone with the dark brown suede chukka

If you go with the Chelsea, I'd go with just plain black
I don't even like black shoes, but a black chelsea is iconic and extremely versatile

>>17465927
i personally think the dark brown suede would make for a better first pair, they would look better with dark wash jeans than a shiny leather

also why only one pair

>>17465923
yes this is good.

>>17465931
I usually wear chinos/suit pants and oxford button-downs both at work and in my free time. I only own one pair of jeans.

>why one pair
I'd like to draw some experience from the first pair before buying the second.

>>17465890
Chelsea boots are zipper boot tier change my mind.

>>17465890
RIP the Yanko derby boot.

>>17465958
is that the carmina 'galway' ?

>>17465964
No, it's the Yanko derby boot which was eliminated in the first round furthest right in that anon's chart. They're my most complimented footwear.

>>17465967
this might be the cheapest galway clone, looks nice.

>>17465958
pretty good

>>17465958
>>17465967
I do quite like them, but I thought the chukkas would fit better with the preppy look I usually wear. But the Yanko derbies look like much more boot for your money, whereas the chukkas look more flimsy

I'm torn.

>>17465970
Kek you're right, they are almost identical. Total ripoff.
>>17465971
Thank you anon.
>>17465973
If I were you I'd go with the chukkas, everyone has Chelseas and it's such a basic bitch boot. Get them and then tell me how great they are so I can buy them too, I've been eyeing them for a while.

I'm going to wear my shell boots tomorrow

I've been avoiding it because they are so shiny and draw a lot of attention, but I also love their looks and it's a very good fit.

>>17465958
Nice pants anon
Great fit

>>17465992
Thank you anon, that is nice of you to say. I do like the trousers a lot.
>>17465991
Why wouldn't you be proud of those attention grabbing shells?

>>17465909
You can wear brogued oxfords in a tan or definitely suede with jeans if you are good looking and have a good body also. Brogied oxfords makes them casual, suede brogued oxfords even more casual. But if they are black color than that makes them less casual obv brogued wingttip oxfords are super versatile, can be worn casual or dressed up

I really like the way these look, but I know Dr Martens are terrible fucking quality and these are £159 which is ridiculous. Is there any copies anywhere?

last chance anons

it's a good price for a Bonafe chukka

>>17465094
Do you think it's a bad move to buy discounted seconds if only minor flaws?

>>17465958
Would be great without pull tab imo those things fuck up my pant leg every time I stand up

>>17466033
Are you one of those unfashionable office drone who think dark navy suit pairs well with tan oxford.

Tan oxford is ugly most of the time. The only reason it's popular is because it resonates with the noobs' bird brains that are attracted to shiny things.

Also, oxfords do not work that way. You can casualize them down how much you want, they are still suit or slacks+coat type of shoes.

>You can wear xyz if you are Apollo reincarnated
such a meaningless thing to state.

>>17466081
Do you mean with the yellow stitching or just the overall shilouette?

>>17466282
Well I'd prefer the yellow stitching but wouldn't mind having a look at similar silhouettes too

what are your thoughts?

>>17466287
The yellow stitching is characteristic of docs and not many makers use it. There's some cheap clones of martens with the stitching, but the makers usually replicate the popular models, and this ain't one of those.
The silhouette is basically a service boot and there's tons of them in all the price ranges. What's your budget?

>>17466081
When Viberg changed the game with their slim service boots, it subsequently get copied to death, even till this day.

Why had nothing similar happened to Dr Martens? Couldn't someone just take the design, then make it slightly better? It's just a typical chunky combat boots on an unit rubber sole.

>>17466304
If it was me, I would put the same upper design on a leather insole, goodyear welted with storm welt, stitch a rubber midsole on with sparse SPI, huge thread to mimic the original look, then glue on the rubber sole of the same design.

>>17466148
indeed but chukkas just ain't for me, at least not dressy ones like that. Might wait for a good deal on bonafe jumper boots

>>17466304
Brand name and people who buy martens instead of the cheaper copies alredy think they're expensive and top notch.

>>17466288
smart design decisions were made to make the cheapest boot possible that isn't total shit.
are you a dirt poor african nigger? this boot is perfect for you
if you aren't, you can buy such better boots

>>17466495
What do you recommend in a similar style? The big draw to me was the larger toe box since I have freakish wide feet.

>>17466564
2055 vibergs

>>17466148
It would be really cool if you could link this because I can't find it.

Speaking of viberg, I'm torn between these two because I primarily wear jeans, so I would like the most casual service boot. Would the whiskey color or more dark viking color fit a more casual officewear style?
I don't want something that makes me look like a stuck-up faggot around the office.

>>17466591
espresso is better. Light colors are eye-catching but black is too formal. Deep brown is a great understated color.

>>17466602
This is a good point. Something eye-catching would be only appropriate if I wore something sharp all of the time, right? like Slacks, Chinos, etc?

>>17466591
>casual officewear style?
personally im partial to whiskey

>>17466607
Any reasons why?

>>17466606
light boots demand lighter clothing. Most people don't own a tan jacket but they do own a black jacket
imagine whiskey boots with a black jacket. ew

>>17466614
i like good leather in lighter browns because the character really shows vs bonded/fake leathers/ it stands out
basically it lets you flex
the dark brown is nice but it doesnt SHOW the quality if that makes sense

>>17466618
you sound like a stuck-up faggot

>>17466615
I can see that. I only have a couple light work outfits, but most of my jeans are dark-wash
>>17466618
Ah, but if I were someplace where I didn't want to flex because my co-workers dress in sandals, I should get something darker?

>>17466622
mad because light brown won last time

>>17466624
personally i think dark brown is ugly so im biased
darkest ill do is a rich burgundy

Last question, 2030 vs 2040, is the bump toe that much more noticeable?

>>17466639
2055 > 2040
bump toes are not effay

>>17466642
I can't find that last on their store, is it similar to the 2030?

>>17466649

>>17466697
I can not find any boots on their site that use this, do you know any that do?
Apparently their 'derby boot' used it, but idk where to find that anymore.

>>17466580
skoaktiebolaget.com/collections/gmtos
not him and i think chukas are for suckas

A lot of hate for bump toes

>>17466714
Thanks anon
I think they have a place if they're unlined.

Can we appreciate how killer Yanko's service boot looks? Anyone own a pair?

>>17466717
clown shoes
Awful

>>17466752
hateful last

>>17466763
Good catch, that's a weird one.

>>17466717
honk honk

>>17466763
Wait, on second look, are these the same last? They look like the same Viberg Jr. last as all other service boots.

>>17466772
>are these the same last?
ye

I'm not sure above-pictures do boots and their lasts justice because every White's boot seen from above looks like this weird, bulbous tumor.

>>17466792
The only person looking straight down at your boots is you.
Were boots meant for you to stare at your own pair, or for other people to look at them while you do your thing?

>>17466792
whites lasts are dogshit top down desu
mp last is surprisingly narrow with no taper
the others are just straight
best is trubalance with its stupidly wide ball and taper to a wide tow
grant stone leo eee is ok too

>>17466792
White's are just ugly. Ugly boots for ugly people.

Good summer boots? Does such a thing exist?

>>17466826
No it's too hot. You'll have to wear sandals.

>>17466845
The unlined chukka thing doesn't count?

>>17466826
>Good summer boots?
your boots.

new
>>17466914
new
>>17466914
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