/fa/ - Fashion

Indys arrived

I want some dan post milwaukees bros.

green boots

>>17426185
the position, assume it

>>17426190
I have not opened the box yet sorry

>>17426191
:(

>>17426185
My boots came in also, but I'm returning them.

>>17426212
did you take pictures?

>>17426252
Nope. They just don't fit, nothing more serious than that. If they hassle me about wearing them across carpet, I'll just pass it off to amex to deal with. I'm getting Vibergs.

>>17426212
What did you get?

>>17426260
Oak Street. They're nice, I got no issues, they just aren't accurate when they say their boots are "true to size" and my size is out of stock till February.

I took a picture but did not assume the position.

Color is weird because it's indoors at night.
IRL it looks a bit darker and less yellow, but I haven't seen them in sunlight yet.

My feet are a bit over 28cm by 11cm. I think that makes me like US11.25E (wide) on Brannock.
These are US11E on the Trubalance last which is the biggest/widest/comfiest last Alden has (but the heel is two sizes narrower)

The fit feels exceptional but I would not give final judgment before wearing them at least three times. I like that the toebox is not too tall, there is not a lot of excess height on the vamp. This is rare for my feet. I felt no heel slip at all despite being roomy in the front, also rare.
The last is chunky, it actually protrudes significantly in the big toe area for comfort, but the vamp stitching is a straight line from the laces which hides this fact very well.

The quality of the build feels ok but not special. I am surprised at how rigid the heel stiffener feels, there's no way this is not celastic. Stitching is just okay. It is fully lined. The suede feels ok but not as good as Charles F Stead suede that I also own.

The quality of the finishing is mediocre. The 'storm welt' is a little sloppy but nothing terrible and nothing that would be visible unless closely examined. Stitching is good all around. There was a bit of glue under one of the speedhooks and it has left a small black mark on the suede (visible in the photo on the right boot). I am not going to return them over this, it's high up and on the inside of the boot.

Overall, it's what I thought they would be. Overpriced but you pay for the unique styling. I like it and I hope they are comfy so I can wear them all the time.

>>17426272
very nice, i've been thinking of making an indy clone by carmina. Got it more or less to what i want it to be (also snuff suede), its not quite the same style but it should be close enough to what i want on the llubi last and what I'm really after is the u-tip.

>>17426282
Carmina is definitely higher quality despite being much cheaper, I also own a pair of Carmina boots.

But I couldn't get the styling right, Carmina's u-tip has a full-on proper apron which means the stitching protrudes, it's a very different design. I think it will look closer to Grant Stone's u-tip boot.

>>17426292
>Carmina's u-tip has a full-on proper apron which means the stitching protrudes
you just have to ask them to make it into a u-tip without the split toe.

carmina

>>17426172
OP is a Jap fan boy faggot.

>>17426298
what kind of shell?

they can basically make you a better built indy for cheaper despite being MTO.
>>17426302
color 4

>>17426303
the thing is that's not an indy that's just a moc toe
no one else has the trubalance and no one else squares off the front of the moc both of which are essential to the look of the indy

>>17426336
Yeah everyone tries to round it out and make it look more ‘dressy’ when in reality Indy style boots are in-between dressy and casual

>>17426300
y u mad tho?

Had these for a month now, and I could not be happier.
A bit of a change from the American service style dress boot.

>>17426401
I'm sadly not gay enough to wear them.

>>17426436
Hideous and dadcore

>>17426486
I am 31 years of age and do not know what a "dadcore" is.
They have gotten me several compliments already from the people I care about.

>>17426436
gross and why

>>17426436
I'm glad you like them
For me it's rare to find a shoe that really, really fits well

is it a shit idea to buy boots second-hand, seeing as they might have been broken in by different sized feet?

>>17426298
>>17426303
Indy has a special aesthetic, the numerous eyelets very close together, the shape of the faux apron, the forward slope of the toebox past the apron etc

The last helps too, even Carmina's Soller is pointy by comparison and that's probably their roundest last (I disregard the Llubi because of the clownish bump on the toe). Carmina lasts are all very sleek looking.

>>17426493
I mean they look like the hideous sneaker/dress shoe hybrids fat office dads wear to work.

>>17426503
Leather has memory, when you put on a shoe and take the first ever step, the leather will crease in a specific way and it will never crease a different way ever again.

On the other hand forums are full of people selling high end shoes and boots that have only been worn once because they were the wrong size.

>>17426511
No idea what you mean, I guess they don't.
They are classic sports boots.

>>17426526

>>17426495
Because service boots stand out too much in Europe.
It's a cultural transplant that doesn't work here, unless you go all out in being a tryhard wannabe American.
Only dress shoes allowed, boots are subcultural.

>>17426460
Not him but they look kinda slick idk

>>17426545
What?
I'm in southern europe and people hear wear timbs all the time
I have seen chelseas from time to time
I have seen one (1) chukka in my entire life

I own a pair of Vibergs, never seen anything like it

>>17426512
>buy expensive shoes
>lol wrong size
>chooses to resell them instead of exchange
Are people truly this fucking cucked? If my shit don’t fit I exchange it. If they refuse, I let the credit card company handle it on my behalf.

>>17426554
My guess is that people are excited to get new shoes, they put them on, they feel fine at home, wear them outside and by the end of the day realize they do not fit

Can't exchange if you wore them outside

>>17426545
When I was living in Japan all the French expats wore Timbs

>>17426553
I was specifically talking about the service style boot.
Which I almost never see.
And while chelseas and chukkas are common, I also don't like them too much.
Timberlands are already too much in sneaker/hiking territory.
And I'm not running down the soft soles of a hiking boot on asphalt.
Waste of a good shoe.

>>17426560
Oh. Then they’re retarded. I’ve had only one issue where the maker said they would refuse an exchange because it was creased after I took six steps total. I just said expect a call from American Express and they shipped me a new size. I got off the phone with White’s about custom boots, they said if the measurement is incorrect not to worry about it since they’ll just make a new pair until it’s right. Which is fine with me.

There’s no sense just accepting a wrong sized shoe.

>>17426436
I like them but I've heard theyre a bitch to wear in, is that true?

>>17426575
A bit.
The first week was 1 hour maximum, slowly working my way up, with deer tallow cream applied on the heels of my feet.
Now they fit perfectly fine, wear them all day long.

Who makes best boots under 450 USD?

Thoughts?

>>17426608
>zippers
consider suicide

>>17426609
I was told this is a “classic style” of boots and I shouldn’t feel ashamed.

>>17426608
>zippers

>>17426568
>just accepting a wrong sized shoe.
if you buy a size and it initially feels fine only to realise 2 days in it's small that's not the makers fault and you're abusing chargebacks

>>17426604
Probably Red Wing. There are also a few pairs of Whites in that range but not much.

>>17426612
>he fell for the sales pitch

>>17426185
What kind of Indy?

>>17426616
I’ve never tried on a single piece of clothing of any sort that initially felt or looked fine only to find out days later that wasn’t the case. I can tell immediately. Maybe I’m just a super genius who is intimately aware of my place within God’s Creation and can feel the presence of formerly living flesh against my own in such a manner that borders the knowledge of the the Father, but it’s not rocket science either way.

Retard.

>>17426659
well my feet swell on hot days cunt

>>17426669
Sounds like you got type 2 diabetes due to consuming too much corn syrup and MSG, which is neither my problem nor my concern. You’ve only yourself to blame, you fat jew-slave.

>>17426669
>his feet swell
Ohhhhhh no no no no no no no

>>17426671
>>17426677
not true and you're being rude because i called out your (((practices)))

Thoughts on these?

https://www.sanders-uk.com/shop-c12/collection-c14/country-c17/kelso-p149#attribute%5B2%5D=79

>>17426694
>anon tries on a pair of shoes
>only walks across carpet
>decides it is the wrong size without wearing them outside at all
>exchanges them for the correct size
>this is wrong and immoral
You’re insane

>>17426401
do better

>>17426713
Shut up anon, he's on to (((You)))
Be afraid!

>>17426713
read bitch
>>17426560
>>17426616

>>17426720
>anon says another anon needs to read
>ignores >>17426568
>then tries to not be a fucking cuck retard
You're a cuck retard and you're not worth anyone's time. You're worthless.

>>17426807
>>ignores >>17426568
>anon explains why people sell kisized boots
>you reply with works on my machine
>further explain how it can happen
>you reply with works on my machine

at least your high quality shoelaces wont break if you hang yourself

>>17426718
I have a pair of black Mister Lous, but I really do not understand the attraction of that hideous color

>>17426609
>>17426613
Those boots look gross, but why the hate against zippers?

Any recommendations for back-zip boots?

>>17426813
You can't fucking read if you think that's what anon said. If some fucking faggot idiot is so fucking excited to get a pair of nice boots that they just wear them all goddamn day outside at school like the fucking underage b& idiots they are then they deserve everything bad that happens to them. People with half a brain can tell if shoes don't fit with a few steps. You're a goddamn idiot and I'm glad that you're on ebay or whatever the fuck trying to sell your shoes.

You're not worth anyone's time. Here's your (you), hope it keeps you warm until the Venmo payment comes in for your used shoes. Faggot.

>>17426818
im not selling anything and youre upset

>>17426819
Not half as upset as you lying about selling their shoes or trying to pass themselves off as something they're not by buying used shoes off ebay like a lolpoor. Either way, you're a fucking retard. Take it and fuck off back to where you came from, queer.

>>17426822
im sorry youre not white but this behavior is unacceptable

>>17426824
Post receipts, poorfag. Show me what you’ve fucking bought.

>>17426833
no id rather you stay mad
you've sunken to the level of the balenciagaboy
youve debased yourself tonight over nothing

>>17426839
I'm a spiteful man. I will sever every limb I have left and slice off my nose, my tongue, and my ears to dunk all over a faggot like you. Which I have done. I will gouge out my eyes to prove a point. You're fucking worthless and you're protecting poorfags who are too fucking stupid to walk a few steps to make sure their shoes fit before spilling their spaghetti and jizzing their pants hoping to show off to people who don't notice them and will never notice them.

Deal with it. You're nothing. That's the problem with you and most of the people of this shitty board, you think the clothes make the man. No. That's never been the case and it will never be the case. You're nothing. I'm glad you fucked up and thought your fancy new boots would get you laid and now you gotta sell them on reddit or whatever the fuck you idiot kids sell your used shoes on, but you're not worth my time and all you do is drag down the overall quality of discussion here and everywhere else. You're nothing.

>>17426848
Maximum cringe

Are these okay? For the price they seem alright
https://www.discount-equestrian.co.uk/dublin-kennet-boots.html

I need some leather wellingtons

>>17426982
Buy them and find out.

>>17426298
>>17426303
I'd love to buy a different brand from sloppy shit alden, and carmina is great.
But my fucking feet will only tolerate a trubalance last. So I'm stuck with these mother fuckers and their bullshit QC inadequacies. Oh well.

>>17426189
i hate this little faggot pose. literally a curtsey lmao
so many internet shoe guys do this

>>17427039
it shows off the shoes well and normies don't have the power level necessary for taking pics of your shoes while being in the missionary position

>>17426848
>That's the problem with you and most of the people of this shitty board
stfu nigger, are you not here posting with us?

>>17427303
So they're homosexual and not even in a fun way. Why are you defending this faggotry?

damn...

>>17427360
>lofmeme

>>17427361
>fearing the power of the Japanese artisans
why?

>>17426712
>>17426712
>>17426712

>>17426185
>>17426272
Here's another photo, in natural light but not direct sunlight.

I wore them all day at work with thick wool socks. Extremely comfy all around, the Trubalance last is a bit of a potato in terms of looks but the fit is so good.

>>17427436
I should buy suede boots

>>17427465
Suede is so good man
Low maintenance, soft, not too formal

Maybe not the best if it rains all the time

>>17427470
>rains at all
ftfy

>>17427356
apparently it makes you seethe so I'm going to say that that pose isn't too bad

Which of these boots are better?

https://www.weatherbeeta.co.uk/for-riders/dublin-river-boots-iii

https://www.weatherbeeta.co.uk/for-riders/dublin-kennet-boots?queryID=a42a3c6d9e52749ca2a7307b90a11dbf&objectID=6260&indexName=magento2_gb_wbeeta_en_products

>>17426816
nta but personally I just don't like their aesthetics, which for me is more important than saving 10 seconds when putting them on or off.

But I know people don't like that they might compromise the structural integrity of the shaft, the waterproofing issues, and the fact that the zip will inevitably fail several times long before the boot does (unless it's some 50 bucks boot ofc)

>>17427465
I’m a fan of roughout. It’s so low maintenance

>>17427532
>>17427436
>>17427470
How do you maintain suede anyway?
I'm familiar enough with smooth leathers and shell, but I've always avoided anything suede, nubuck (whatever that is exactly), and roughout because I have no idea how to care for it without screwing up the surface.
How do you condition suede?

>>17427536
Just brush it every so often. You can use mink oil but it’ll darken it and make it less fuzzy.

>>17427536
Spray it with suede waterproofing every few months
Saphir has suede renovateur in spray form too if needed

Normal horsehair brush gets rid of dust etc just fine
Crepe brush also exists and is a little harsher, good for restoring the hairiness. Finally there's brass brushes for suede, those are the hardest.

Avoid dropping food directly on it.
If it gets a little dirty, use a suede eraser then brush it.
If it gets very dirty, use suede soap, let it dry and brush it.

>>17427536
with a suede brush preferably. There's suede cleaners too for tough stains. Also spray with a water protector.

>>17427532
>roughout is low maintenance
fuck no
It just mostly looks dirty and ugly.

>>17426833
>Post receipts, poorfag.
You are most definitely not white.

So I was planning on getting a pair of heritage boots so I measured my feet so I could get a accurate sizing. Turns out my feet are 270mm(whatever this is in burger) in all three measurements. Wtf is going on? Is this normal that every fucking measurement is the same? Is this what they call the golden ratio? Am I a monster or The Golden God?

This is 2spooky4me. Where did I fuck up?

>>17427577
If this is just normal then I am going to church tomorrow.

>>17427577
checked
>>17427586
>anon has square feet lmao

>>17427509
answer me, bros

>>17427664
dunno why you're expecting different answers for the same shit glued boots

>>17427465
>>17427536

Use Saphir’s line up of suede products. Pic related is my ~5 yr old Alden tankers after I just put them through the shampooing, renovateur spray, invulner. Never did anything to them before other than wiping with a damp rag and waterproofing.

>>17427685
When you used the renovateur spray, did you put them on cardboard or something? The spray has color in it right? I don't want it to stain stuff around the shoes

what the hell happened here

guy says he only wore them a couple of times

>>17427714
sorry forgot pic

it's like the nose is crooked

reminds me of the webm of the big nosed dog smelling left and right

>>17427715

>>17427711
do it outside

>>17427436
how much did you pay for them? Been looking for one in europe too.

>>17427724
Please do not make fun of me

I paid 850

I know it's a very high price to pay for a pair of Alden boots but all the European stores had them around 750-850 and this was the only store that had a model that I wanted exactly in my size (they only had two sizes left).
Basically I knew I was getting ripped off because I wanted this specific style of American-made boot in Europe, without having to pay customs.

>>17427728
If you call them up, they’ll finagle shit for you. Just ask them to classify it as books/journals.

>>17427728
oh damn fuck that, they might be unique but 850 for aldens? And not even CF stead suede? I'd expect something more similar to the EG "mink" suede at that price point. Maybe i'll get my hands on some when i go to the US this summer.

>>17427715
No joke, the shitty paper thin leather boots I bought in Africa look better after two years of heavy wear than those.

>>17427738
In the US they're like 600-650 I think, still overpriced for what you get. You're paying for the style either way.

The suede isn't bad, it just feels a little less soft and silky than the one on my Carminas which is definitely CF Stead.
I found an article dated 2009 saying Alden also uses CF Stead, so maybe it's the same tannery just a different batch? Or maybe they have changed since then.

>>17427752
>In the US they're like 600-650 I think
what the fuck, that's what i paid for vibergs in europe.. I didn't realize Aldens were such a rip off.

>>17427756
Remember to convert, but prices have gone up across the board. The nicer Vibergs are gonna run you 775-850 euro.

>>17427823
I paid like ~600 (eurobucks) for all my vibergs on cultizm with 25% off (which is always on)

>>17427711
I got the neutral but yeah I do it outside because the fumes linger.

>>17427823
Thankfully that German store has them on 25% sale very frequently, got mine for like 650-670 (my country has high VAT)

>>17427827
I got both my pairs of vibergs on sale and I’m tempted to trade/sell them because the lasts just suck. I have Alden, Whites, Trickers, C&J, GS, Paraboot and all are more comfortable. I was hoping Viberg would have the heritage boot feel but they just feel like fancy fashion dress boots. Also pic related is natty CXL NSTs.

>>17427846
i agree viberg lasts are horrible. CXL makes it alright, its really thick CXL and the creasing has been really good so im happy enough.

>>17427846
>>17427850
Vibergs are for those with wide feet. If you don’t have wide feet, get something else. The only boot that’s almost as good as Vibergs to me are White’s, but I have amusingly large feet.

>>17427924
I have wide feet and still they suck. The footbeds feel more narrow than their lasts. They do it on purpose fir a more sleek look. I prefer not to have to stand on the welt to look sleek.

>>17427931
Post shoe size and purchases. I have FF width in my “real” size and have never once put weight on the welt. If you bought the wrong size, that’s on you. Should’ve returned the boots if what you bought was too small.

I'm more interest in the "real" FF size desu

>>17427924
What makes vibergs better for wide feet? If anything they feel really narrow to me compared to others.

>>17428098
Guy is talking out of his ass. Sure vibergs do have meme lasts like the 310 bump toe, but the vast majority of vibergs out there are the 2030

>>17428026
I don’t feel the welt on the 1035 (right boot) but they still suck comfort wise compared to a GYW boot. On the 2030s (stock E width) I feel the welt in the area circled. You can see with the 2030 they are slimming the waist down a bunch. I was told that the 1035 and 2030 should have the same width (or used to) at the waist.

Does anyone have white's oxford? Is it worth getting an oxford from a boot company?

>>17428159
Just get a boot from them. PNW oxfords look like clown shoes that only japs can pull off in heritage larp.

>>17428159
Ugly as fuck

>>17428036
GG no re
>>17428153
I imagine you got the wrong length. Post the other size so I can see the crease.

>>17428036
>>17428165
Oops
>>17428160
Japs are strange creatures.

>>17428165
Length is fine. 12D Alden vs 11.5E (((Viberg))). And the width of the last (upper) is fine too. It just feels like it was lasted to a D width footbed/sole. Not sure how else to explain it.

Fuck your overpriced gaybergs or whatever the fuck boots that are made with taiwanese horse scrotum leather. I can literally hire a good looking whore to suck my dick all night for how much these boots cost
Go shill your shit somewhere else.

>>17428183
post boots so we can have a laugh

>>17428174
You bought the wrong size. If your normal boot size is a 12D US, you got the wrong size and you don't have wide feet.

>>17428191
What is the correct size

>>17428237
your fault and no one else’s that you choose to buy dirt cheap hoarder garbage

>>17428237
They tell you to size down a full size if your normal width is a D. They aren't even on UK sizing, the reason you're on the welt like that is because the shoes are too long. What you bought is the equivalent of a 12.5 E.

>>17428174
>>17428249
I suspect his regular size is a 10.5 or 11 in Viberg if he normally wears 12D. I'm a 11.5E and my Vibergs are 10.5 or 11, depending. Especially if >>17428153 is the case.

>>17428246
?

>>17428278
had a brainfart and posted a reply to a completely different post in the wrong thread somehow. carry on.

>>17428249
The reason I’m on the welt is because the 2030 is a shit fashion last. The last is wider than the welt and still narrower than a D width Trubalance.

>>17428312
>buys the wrong size
>shit last
Cope.

thought id pop into /fa/ before dropping >200 on what basically amount to glorified shoes. are thursdays actually cringe? i love the "fashionable utilitarianism" of them

>>17427428
>>17426712

Honestly, Sanders are a complete sleeper brand nobody has heard of; I'm not even sure how they're still in business. Their Moc toe boot is very handsome (shame they don't do larger sizes) especially for a Brit-cuck brand but yeah, nobody knows.

They're not considered bad quality by any means if that's what you're asking. What you've linked looks perfectly fine.

>>17428481
>are thursdays actually cringe

Yes they are actually cringe.

>go through Nicks sizing
>it seems to imply that I should get a 9.5 since my Brannock size comes to a 10
>go to Whites page and input foot length
>they recommend a 8.5
wtf is this shit.... Does anyone have a pair of Nicks and Whites and can tell me what size you got.

>>17428500
Just send a sketch of your feet in to Nicks and Whites, they'll size you up.

the entire gang

>>17428500
what lasts? i take the same size in mp and 55 last

>>17428481
>fashionable utilitarianism
>ugly last
>poorly built
huh?

Is leather being "full grain" worth it?

>>17428662
Was looking at Whites MP and Nicks Americana.

>>17428737
If it's full grain it means it's actual leather and not leather mixed with acrylic and plastic crap (i.e. sneaker trash)

That means it can last a long time if you take care of it.
You cannot even take care of plastic 'leather', at some point it's gone and you throw it in the trash.

>>17428737
yes but keep in mind full grain leather can still be garbage
that's why people liketo k ow the tannery
but keep in mind you can get cuts of leather from a reputable tannery that are still shit

>>17428776
" I am a size 14, slightly wide toe box but very thin ankles. So naturally a Chelsea boot is great for me because they hold you in real tight at the ankle and heal"
isnt the exact opposite true?

>>17428787
Those are going to slip off like nothing. Get some jackboots made for your foot, and wear them for the rest of your life.

>>17428500
The Kyle guy at bakers anons swear by so much sized me down a full two sizes from my brannock. I called them back and spoke to a younger woman, she said they’ll exchange them at no cost since I jumped through so many hoops. I would say just call them beforehand and send in the red wing digital measurement as well.

>>17428737
Overrated classification.
Plenty of bad full grain out there from Bangladesh, India.

>>17428994
>full grain from India

>>17429007
Sir
Made from the finest Indians

i will NEVER buy leather that doesn't come from Yurop or America

Why is everything leather with you guys. Try having fun

>>17429056
>Try having fun
By looking at your boots kek
You are so nouveau riche and easily influenced

>>17429056
I don't work in the sewers so i have no need for $20 high leg rubber boots. Good for you though, i respect professions like that, not everyone wants to do them but someone has to.

>>17428174
How do you style your green boots? I've seen your collection and noticed you have some pairs, the boots look good but I have no idea how to make them work

>>17429066
>How do you style your green boots?
With my clown nose. Red is a complimentary color for green. So they go together well.

>>17429119

>>17429037
There’s some jap who hunts his own wild pigs for his boots, but they’re like three grand.

>>17429119
Kek

>>17429148
honorary aryan

>>17428483
What? Their chukkas are everywhere.

Anyway, their quality is not *great*. Of the made in UK bootmakers still around, I'd rank them near the bottom.

Still, better than Chinkshit.

where to begin when swallowing the boot pill bros? i just want something slender that will last. tired of dropping $50 a year on new canvas shoes

>>17429296
redwing heritage if you're poor
Whites if you're white

>>17429298
thursdays if you are a dumbass

Best EU available combat boots that aren't too chunky?

>>17429315
this post sponsored by the fracap shiller

>>17429316
u wot

Where the fuck do I get good dress shoes in triple wide, please god somebody help

>>17429321
Do you really need triple wide? Most people who wants wider shoes simply have a last issue. Try the Alden Barrie last

>>17429321
>dress shoes
Send an email to Toni at TLB, they have width options for all their lasts, goes up to H-width
And their H-width is pretty wide, I think must be wider than Allen Edmonds EEE

>>17429324
Yes, I am a 9EEE according to the brannock device.

>>17428481
>mystery meat leather from god knows where
>assembled in a factory in ???? but sometimes also at a factory in ????
>goodyear welted but with extra cheap canvas that will tear and deny all the durability the construction style was meant to give
Lately they haven't even been able to get the shape of the boot right. Look at the heel on the brown one. That's supposed to be shaped like the black one and actually come in to wrap around your ankle. Instead it is literally straight. Your heel is not straight.
Whoever build this boot needs to be strangled.

Do not buy Thursgays.

>>17429338
>>17428481
pic, not mine

>>17429066
I just wear them with cords or chinos and stick to earth tones.

>>17429119
I’m ashamed to say it but I unironically like the green & red combo.

>>17429296
>something slender that will last
Euro boots are slender. Try Trickers or Crownhill Shoes. Western boots also enjoy being slender. Look at Tecovas.

I am deliberately picking companies that keep the price down. C&J or Enzo Bonafe are excellent but questionable as a first boot.

>>17429347
>Trickers
>Slender

>>17429347
I think C&J offer the best quality at their price and you won't be disappointed as your first boot. Tricker's on sale of course is impossible to beat, i saw people get Stow's at $300 or so.

>>17429327
Lose weight. The only people who measure more than a single E on the Brannock are fat fucks.

>>17429066
blue works very well.

>>17429302
redpill me. i just looked them up and they seem pretty fine but im also a turbo newfag. what are some issues id run into with them?

>>17429373
I was down 50 pounds when I measured. I have another 20 to go, but I really don't think it's going to make a difference if 50 didn't. The bone is right against the skin, I don't even have any excess skin I can pull on.
Dressing nice was 90% of the reason I started losing weight.

I grabbed some AE Daltons on Amazon “try before you buy” just to check out the last. No surprise it’s a shit narrow last just like the 2030. For those curious from L to R.

-Trickers 4497S 12UK
-Alden TB 12D US
-Viberg 2030 11.5E
-Allen Edmonds 511 12EEE US

I’m normally a TTS 12D/E in US boots and 11.5UK. You would think the E and EEE width boots would be wider but that is untrue in this case.

>>17429421
Here is the Viberg E width vs the Alden D under it. A Viberg EE might be close to what I’m used to. I know Viberg changed the 2030 but does anyone know if it used to be wider?

>>17429407
Bro, you're fat. Like a guy can be a EEEE due to instep bullshit depending on last, but if you are a EEE on the Brannock you're a fat fuck. Post height and weight and pic related.

>>17429428
It was proven you bought the wrong size, jackass.

>>17429402
Never buy chinkshit.

What leather in carmina's selection would be closest to color 4 shell?

>>17429402
Go through the previous /btg/s there's a ton of examples of issues from bad mystery meat leather, to the gemming on the GYW failing entirely like
>>17429436 to bad last/heel design

What's the appeal of Chukkas? asking because when not on my feet, they seem like dopier and less appealing regular boots.

>>17429430
The only thing proven was the 2030 is dogshit and Viberg sizing is retarded. Saying I bought the wrong size and telling me to go down a full size on an already narrow fit is even more retarded.

>>17429448
full size down on 2030 is a horrible idea, i did and can only wear them with thin socks or without any.

>>17429421
>EEE
what a fucking joke
thats a D maybe E at best

>>17429447
They're comfortable and easy to wear

>>17429454
What's the difference between just regular boots and Chukkas construction wise? I had thought it was just a lower top.

>>17429452
They’re just about the same width E vs EEE. I thought the AE 65 last was bad but at lease a EEE on the 65 last fits me.

>>17429451
Anon just bought shit and wore them for three days before considering the possibility they were the wrong size, as evidenced in this post where he ignored sizing recommendations and didn't even think to call them first: >>17428174
Anon does not have wide feet, he has normal width feet and did not size appropriately. He fucked up.

What is your policy on used shoes? What if it's from a good brand which creases beautifully and whose only downside is that you may need to resole them?

>>17429469
post your vibergs before i take advice.

>>17429447
they're short boots for the summer
>>17429472
This. They never post their boots

>>17429470
Never buy used clothing of any sort. If money is tight, save your money and call the maker two or three times about sizing unless they say right off the bat they will exchange shit with no charge.
>>17429472
See: >>17426833

>>17429469
I called Viberg and DV. They both recommended 11.5E based on my 1035 size and Alden sizing. I do no have wide feet yet an E width 2030 is still too narrow. There are no EE option in this style.

>>17429456
They're meant to be lightweight. This varies, of course, depending on how the company has built them. You can definitely spot some chunky chukkas out there.
Expect thinner leather, even in the midsole. These aren't work boots. You can feel them flex under you

>>17429474
>Never buy used clothing of any sort.
That seems to go against a lot of /fa/ in general, isn't it? I see threads all of the time about people getting used clothing.

>>17429484
thifting culture is a fad

>>17429482
you're thinking of blake stitch chukkaz

>>17429482
I kind of like that, but some Chukkas like the 1000 miles from wolverine seem to be just their regular boots with a lower top. Is that because they are substandard? Or just different strokes, different folks?

>>17429486
stitchdown is fine. I do not like GYW chukkas
>>17429487
>Or just different strokes, different folks?
Yes. There are brands whose "chukkas" are service boots with a 4" shaft
I call them dicklet boots.

>>17429484
dont buy used clothes, just save your money and buy something on sale. Even whites goes on sale here and there

>>17429470
>buying boots someone else has broken in
why
why the fuck
unless you're going to ask your cobbler to replace the insole too, but god
why

>>17429485
Ohh. I see
>>17429496
>Why
Because I can look on ebay and see $400 Allen Edmonds for $40 and the only real evidence that they've been worn is the outsole and the very slight creasing. I see that, realize resoling would set me back another $80, and think 'Yeah I could probably do that.'

>>17429493
I'll just do this then. It's hard not to jump at the opportunity though.

>>17429498
if you buy used you can't return or exchange for the right size and this thread and others are full of anons bitching about their shit not fitting right, just save your money and reach out to who you wanna buy from and don't wear shit for three days before deciding it don't fit

>>17429500
OKay, that's a really good point because I have a weird, square foot that's oddly flat. Thanks for talking me off that ledge.

>>17429501
i got weird feet with stupidly high arches that are thick as all hell (my feet are chodes) and every "high tier" brand i've bought from has let me exchange shit no questions asked but i never wore their shoes for multiple days, you can tell with a few steps if it's gonna feel like ass and if they hassle you just take it up with the credit card or your bank and let them deal with it

>>17428591
nice collection, maybe you can assist the EEE anon with some sizing advice

>>17429347
>>17429348
>>17429351
>casually recommending $600 for boots
holy absolute fucking shit did i just find the richfag general? ive never paid more than $80 for a single article of clothing. i think all hope is lost lads

>>17429517
This is a steal: https://www.dillards.com/p/polo-ralph-lauren-lambskin-leather-jacket/509658493

>>17429517
I have spent over 2000 USD on shoes, and I am a bootgen casual.

>>17429517
show us these 80 usd boots.

I only buy "tried on indoors only" second hand. It's great for picking up boots that do not have a local distributor in good condition.

>>17429517
You usually get what you pay for. Unless it's a rubber boot

>>17429525
"Tried on indoors only" is a lie. Anyone who "tried on indoors only" exchanged their shit for what fits.
>but anon they say they were custom-made boots from bakers
If your custom boots from Bakers are fucked, they will send you a new custom pair because they fucked up interpreting your size based on the measurements sent in.

>>17429517
prime shitposter at the moment is bitching about anons buying the wrong size vibergs and the ones worth having are at least 800 burgers so yeah

Waiting for carmina to reply (on monday hopefully) if their Artisans can accommodate my special requests. I'm really excited for these boots if they do.

>>17429518
>leather jacket
literally no reason to own anything thicker than a long sleeved T-shirt in arizona but yeah i seriously doubt this would be warmer than some layered shirts w/ a decent poofy jacket all for $40
>>17429522
...wtf?
>>17429524
usmc standard issue hot weather boots. i stepped on a broken protruding tent spike during a training exercise in my first week in the fleet and it punctured straight through the boot and poked me in the foot (virtually uninjured but still ruined the boot) then it rained for the next two weeks and that right foot was completely soaked tne whole time. i bought the same pair again when i came back because they were only $80 and i was poorfag enlisted marine. lasted the whole rest of my contract until i got out a few months ago. id post a picture but they're buried at the bottom of my seabag and i cba to look
>>17429525
>you usually get what you pay for
i just got home from running errands after posting >>17429296 and like I said, I literally just need something that holds up better to basic walking than converse. i simply don't understand the pricing. what exactly are you paying for when you drop $1000 on shoes? from a layman's POV this literally just comes off as jewelry for foot fetishists and/or leather aficionados
>>17429536
my limited experience with richniggers is that they seem to psychologically degrade and devolve the same way prisoners' minds do. they become embittered with their situations and stresses exacerbated by the environment they reside in and the company they (dont) keep. they start obsessing over retarded shit and become absolutely unhinged at the barest hint of a perceived slight or they pick up weird hobbies like buying overpriced boots (raping vaguely effeminate men)

>>17429402
For just a few bucks more you can get Red Wing factory seconds and the quality is way higher.

>>17429553
>AR670-1s
They last one year, tops, and that's for pogues.

>>17429571
>AR-670
not army. MARCORSYSCOM goes through their own boot-torture tests and only like 7 very specific models of boot from 4 different manufacturers are authorized, and two of those models are discontinued

>>17429573
Danners are exactly the same. Fun fact, they're lumped together in the same crates.

>>17429579
i am so confused. the USMC finds mass-produced boots and makes sure they work during trials and testing, then authorizes them for use. there aren't any "usmc-specific" boots, man.

>>17429553
>i simply don't understand the pricing. what exactly are you paying for when you drop $1000 on shoes?
good leather
good construction
that companies special snowflake last
that companies limited desirable stock
that limited availability leather

>>17429583
Danner makes the boots for both Army and muhroon corpse. They're the same boots.
https://www.danner.com/
The only difference is emblems for civilian purchase and possibly an upcharge. Ask /meg/ about it, if you must.

>>17429553
>i simply don't understand the pricing. what exactly are you paying for when you drop $1000 on shoes?
PNW boots like White's or Franks are 3lbs of leather. 3mm thick too so you can't machine stitch it. But they're sub-1k USD.

The 1k+ USB boots are using rare leather usually, or are pretentious japshit.
That said, the jap who hunts his own boars to handmake his boots deserves to charge 3k for them. That's wicked. I'll pay for the story.

>>17429602
>shoot pig
>make 3k

wish that was me

>>17429605
>shoot pig
>spend two months making a boot
>live off the pig meat
>shoot pig
>spend two months making a boot
>live off the pig meat
>such is life in Hokkaido

>>17429429
I already said I've got 20 pounds to go, your site is nicer than i am apparently

Be honest.
Which one of you is this guy?

>>17429674
Thats a sick shirt ngl

>>17429674
Awful jeans, but the rest is sick

>>17429602
>3mm thick too so you can't machine stitch it.

Anon bullshit time is here.

>>17429662
Anon are you the EEE guy I was asked to help here >>17429514

What kind of shoes are you looking for?
I have tried a few different brands

It's important to remember that width is also a function of length, a 9.5EEE might feel exactly like a 10E for example.
Before spending money on EEE shoes make sure you're not just buying needlessly short shoes. A lot of people wear shoes that are too small without knowing it.
It will make your life much easier if this was the case, it's easier to just buy larger sizes instead of trying to find EEE widths. And the shoes look better proportioned too.

Anyway I am not really an EEE but I thought I was. I have a pair of EEE 65's from Allen Edmonds and TLB H-Width dress shoes. Those shoes are basically half a size too small and one size too wide for me, but they fit and are generally comfy, although the AE65 instep is too low.

I have Viberg boots in the 2030 last. This is supposed to be an E (wide) but that's fake news. It is narrow in some areas.

I have tried Carmina oxfords in the Rain last. People say it is roomy. It's just a bad last honestly, the heel is massive and the width is narrow. There is Rain EEE but that also makes the heel even bigger.
I have Carmina boots in the Forest last. This one is ok but I should have probably gone with Forest EEE.
Important to remember Carmina "EEE" is not like normal EEE. Their EEE is just one size wider than normal.
If I were to buy Carmina again, I would try the Soller last.

My shell boots are in Bonafe 363mod last. This is a great last for me, very comfy.
My recent buy are Alden Indys in the Trubalance last, E width (one wider than normal). This feels great but have only worn them one day.

>>17429946
Careful with the rain last oxfords I have insane unfixable heel slip on mine

Why would anyone buy Thursday boots?

was in cadets for quite a few years as a lad and got very good at shining my boots
ask me anything about how to look after/polish boots without any of the pretentious or consoomer shit

>>17429056
these look like wellies interbred with crocs lol

>>17429964
well go on then how do I keep my footwear from looking disheveled

>>17429969
cant be fucked to answer this

>>17429056
>plastic is fun
What level of cope is this

>>17429321
grant stone

>>17429674
dadcore drippy

>>17429056
At least have something worth showing anon.

INB4 Oliver 65 series

>>17429966

>>17430114
Wow that's ugly

Thoughts?

There are some seriously hideous boots ITT

>>17430251
Thanks!

>finally got rid of my red wings
now just Vibergs to go and I'm free of boots i don't want.

damn

>>17429056
Try not larping as Ye, Balenciaga is so fucking cringe

>>17430345
EG suede is something else, especially mink suede. I don't think i can afford another pair for now though. I'm getting some suede boots soon though, maybe.

>>17430114
holy shit that's more than a mr. lou
are consoomers retarded?

Know of anything similar to this?

>>17430494
Those are fugly
If you like a short boot you can find 5-inchers everywhere
In my opinion a 3 eyelet chukka is better than a short boot

>>17429056
Based as fuck kek, these tech sales faggots dont deserve the drip with their gay ass beard oiled fat fuck boots

>>17429522
woah mr money bags over here everybody look out

sad day for fat guys like me that want to wear narrow boots like these

Guys I need alternative to these that wont break my broke ass's bank account.

>>17430530
and these

>>17430529
Nigga this is like something fat filipinos wear with tight as fuck jeans and a horrendous leather jacket

>>17430529
post malone is kinda fat and wears narrow boots, I like the look

>>17430548
ok, post malone

>>17430299
>he buys the wrong size/last
A common mistake for beginners.

>>17430530
>>17430534
Gross and why

>>17430628
I just don't like IR's, they were an impulse buy at $250 new. I also already have 2 pairs of Vibergs, no need for a third one that i don't even like.

>>17430345
the boot curtsy is so gay

>>17430345
Here you go faggots, took one look around and had to make this. Thoughts?

>>17430718
>Best boots under 100

>>17430707
I dont see them as the same person. I see it as two separate disembodied feet interacting with each other

>>17430702
Why did you buy boots you don't like in the first place? Further, why did you not immediately return/exchange them? Viberg is really easy about that and they will do it for free (like a janny).

>>17430757
I buy and sell boots all the time, that third pair of Vibergs just got replaced by my Galway that is infinitely superior.

>>17430782
>he sells his clothes
Gross. Only thing worse is buying used clothes

>>17430794
>selling your clothes is gross
?????????

>>17430530
>>17430534
>under $400
Idk maybe nicer Docs or something

>>17430519
post boots

Coniston in dark brown rough out suede or dark brown pebble? Other shoes are dark brown suede chukkas and polo suede loafers, tan derbies and dark brown oxfords. Worn mainly with chinos/jeans and barbour/tweed herringbone coats + OCBD/flannel shirt - these are for winter (UK) and wet weather as my other casual shoes are suede.

>>17430895
rough out

>>17430895
>these are for winter (UK) and wet weather as my other casual shoes are suede.
rough out then, easy to take care of, you just wax it whenever you need.

what is the best black combat style boot on the market?

>>17429662
I'm looking for a pair of chukkas right now. Eventually gonna scoop up some black oxfords, but that TLB Mallorca company another anon suggested seems good for that.
As far as sizing up goes, I usually size up to an 11.5 for sneakers, but the length on dress shoes makes them look a bit clowny on me. And the space at the heel becomes extremely noticeable.

>>17430947
just say you want a black boot
you dont want combat boots or you would have gotten some corcorans or something

>>17430947
paramemes now fuck off

>15 days

>>17431013
I can’t fathom going on a 15 day trip where I know I’m gonna walk a lot and thinking “I should wear a brand new untested pair of boots”

>>17431013
>It’s a biproduct of taking it off the last during production… first time you wear the boot you’ll make more wrinkles than that
>It's fine, handmade product.
>This is normal. What kind of leather is it?

>>17431032
The loose grain near the foot bend isn’t the end of the world on a lower end boot but this is unacceptable

>>17431042
what upsets me more than thursdays quality is the reddit using handmade as an excuse for poor quality and dismissing everything as fine and telling people theyll do more damage in the first wear
boots dont even crease there and theyre telling him its ok

>>17430702
Where do you get new IRs for 250?

>>17431048
cultizm with 25% off.

>>17431061
Damm, they're never on sale on Cultizm. I missed that.

>>17431065
There's a 25% code always on, i think its SALE25.

>>17431061
>cultizm
was looking through the sale tab and found this shit that usually sells for 650 euro

>>17429402

>>17431067
Thsnks!

kino outfit

>>17431097
I’m not a huge fan of the two-tone boots. They looks like spats

>>17431097
you've gone and made workwear look preppy
swap the wool pants for plain old wrangler jeans (boot cut)

>>17431075
Please sirs, it is Top quality premium shag carpet, made in beautiful pakistan

NEW
>>17431179
>>17431179
>>17431179

NEW
>>17431179
>>17431179
>>17431179

>>17429060
>>17429065
>>17429966
>>17430075
>>17430108
>>17430355
Seems I've struck a nerve lmao

All you fucking Nobleman subscribing cigar chewing mid level tech support losers arguing over whose shitty microbrand leather boots are the least shitty and what kind of kangaroo semen makes the best polish are hilarious. Every thread is the exact same discussions over and over: >hurrdurr mallshit >hurrdurr paki lasts >hurrdurr you spent 900 dollars on shoes >hurrdurr you only spend 200 bucks enjoy your asos tier quality >muh red wings muh instagram ad boots muh perfectly made calfskin chelseas from respected Saville Row house

Learn how to have fun and stop coping

>>17431097
Those trousers are fuckin sick

>>17429553
$1,000 boots you wear for 10 years cost $100 a year, or you could just destroy a hundred dollar pair of shoes every year and spend the same amount of money but be less comfortable. Then you pay $2-500 and have the $1,000 boots rebuilt and wear them for another 10 years.

>>17426460
leather jacket is nice

>>17426172
ugly
>>17426189
ugly
>>17426256
nice
>>17426272
ugly
>>17426298
ugly
>>17426303
ugly
>>17426401
ugly
>>17426436
ugly
>>17426495
decent
>>17426510
ugly
>>17426608
ugly
>>17426712
ugly
>>17426718
lol
>>17427360
ugly
>>17427509
ugly
>>17427532
decent
>>17427685
ugly
>>17427846
ugly
>>17428174
ugly
>>17428483
ugly
>>17428591
nice, ugly, ugly, nice
>>17429056
ugly
>>17429341
ugly
>>17429342
ugly
>>17429421
ugly
>>17429482
ugly
>>17430240
ugly
>>17430265
ugly
>>17430345
ugly
>>17430529
ugly
>>17430530
ugly
>>17430534
ugly
>>17430905
ugly
>>17431032
ugly
>>17431097
ugly