/fa/ - Fashion

>>17413107
continuing from>>17413326

in terms of the leather, i do prefer the domane leather on the boss because CXL is CXL. in terms of the little details, JL has finer and higher SPI stitching through, but it lacks the visually interesting quad V stitch the wescos has. Comfort wise they're about the same, with the exception of the celastic toe in the JL

>>17413107
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/comparison-wesco-mr-lou-to-john-lofgren-engineer.102418/

this guy has a better writeup

>>17413330
You think THAT is lace to toe?

Behold.
A horse died for this.

>>17413330
Rare northern Italian monke

Recommendations for a jodhpur boot?

>>17413382
I like the one unmarked makes

>>17413382
Carmina's dressy lasts fit well for inherently feminine boots like jodhpurs and chelseas

>>17413377
actually disgusting.

>>17413391
>unmarked
What the fuck is this?
Seriously gtfo with your mexican shoes, that's seriously overpriced for something made in mexico with mystery meat

>>17413382
I would never buy it but I think it looks cool

>>17413330
>LACE TO TOE EDITION
chicago natty shell
indonesian monke

>>17413401
They are unironically good value.
Leathers are from Spain, not a bad place.

>>17413345
Lol. My jackets actually fit me because I have them custom made.

>>17413401
>What the fuck is this?
the only jodhpur boot that isnt made for dandy bottoms

>>17413377
Reminds me of italian army boots

>>17413456
Forgot pic

Has anyone successfully refreshed waterproofing on old danners?
Also unrelated to boots but can I wax canvas pants that have spandex in them? Need waterproof stuff for snow/rain.

>>17413530
why buy multi material nonsense to start with?

>>17413562
no. the widest part of the JL lines up with the widest part of my foot. both are size 9

Boots newfag here, going to rapid fire some questions:

If I want a similar look to these >Thursdays, what should I be looking/asking for? Like how do I describe that boot so a proper company knows what I want?

Why are some leathers matte looking (like the pic) while others are shiny? How do I maintain the "matte" vs "shiny" with polish or lotion or whatever?

I'm looking at boots in the $500-700 range. What should I be looking for? Is a brand like Nick's or Whites good? I read a r*ddit sticky and was recommended those.

Thank you /btg/

>>17413614
Forgot the pic because I'm a retard

Engineerfags, how do the John Lofgrens compare to the Wesco Mister Lous? I have a pair of Wescos that I love which are a very comfortable fit, but I'm more attracted to the aesthetic of the perfectly rounded toe of the JL. Someone in the last thread said that he hates his JLs because they're terrible to get on and the celastic toe is uncomfortable. Do other people have this same experience?

>>17413623
see>>17413365
>>17413368

>>17413620
Whites MP probably

>>17413614
https://shop.whitesboots.com/lifestyle-boots/mp-m1tc-dainite/

Whites MP

What boots would raskolnikov wear?

>>17413377

>>17413614
if you could find someone that would make a slim service boot in an outlaw leather on danite studded youd getthat look
meermins waxed shell meme looks close while being on a slightly less retarded last
also look at carmina because with how slim you want it you're better off getting european

>>17413668
>outlaw
*oiltan

>>17413614
Europe or US?

Does anyone else obsess over 1/2 size? Like 1/2 down maybe is too tight and 1/2 up is maybe too loose? Do you size up or down in this situation?

>>17413688
Yes, yes and depends on the shoe. Turns out I've been wearing about a size larger than needs be for most of my life.

>>17413688
its a last issue

>>17413365
How do the sizes compare between the two? I know that you’re comparing a boss boot with the JL, but are the lengths at least comparable? I’ve read that the JL D-width runs larger. I’m coming from an 11E in the mister lou which runs narrow, especially compared to the boss boot

>>17413710
the same size but the celastic toe on the JL makes it less comfortable

>>17413731
Thanks man, this helps a lot

I need a pair of walking around shoes, are vibergs a meme? Specifically this pair: https://viberg.com/products/service-boot-2040-zulu-waxed-kudu

>>17413791
>are vibergs a meme?
overpriced

>>17413809
what isn't?

>>17413812
>what isn't?
unpunished reckless endangerment

>>17413791
I own a pair of their 310s. I love sprung boxy toes, but it isn't for everybody. That being said, it is one of my top 3 favorite pairs that I own alongside my Mister Lous and Whites 350 cruisers. Vibergs are undoubtedly great boots despite what mega autists on these generals will say. Of course theres always going to be people who say there's a "better" boot, but in the big picture Vibergs are the endgame for a lot of people who love leather boots. They realistically are only for casual/dress wear, but they work perfectly for that purpose. They have a large selection of relatively high quality leather for each of their lasts, and the amount of detail put into the stitching puts them slightly ahead of other well-known companies like Redwing and Whites. Nowadays if you want a top-shelf boot you'll have for life, you will have to accept spending at least $600-800.

>>17413377
>>17413463
Is this the boot equivalent of wearing converses?

>>17413837
Maybe. I don't have any monkey boots but got a pair from grafters for my wife and she loves them.

>>17413836
that's basically what i want. just a pair of boots that will last forever and look alright with jeans or maybe slacks that are comfortable to wear if i am on my feet a lot

>>17413791
>walking around shoes
Consider White's Farmer/Rancher boot. The logger heel pushes your balance forward so you (weirdly enough) walk more on the ball of your foot than your heel. Very comfy and the arch support does work.
Logger heel is wide too so you aren't losing out on stability.

>>17413836
How do you like your 350 cruisers?

>>17413853
Then I highly advocate for you to get some bergs. That zulu leather is horrendous though. You'd be better off getting something more well-rounded like a standard chromexcel or horsebutt. The really wild leathers they offer are going to be very niche and will only work so well for specific outfits, whereas a standard brown or black chromexcel or horsebutt leather will work with the majority of outfits, and in my opinion form more beautiful patinas compared to something that straight up looks like reptile skin

What is the point of this heel style.
>I would like rubber so I get more traction than leather, but not too much traction please. I enjoy sliding when I don't step heel first

Maddening

>>17413872
That's the part of the heel that tends to wear out faster, and rubber will hold up better than leather.

>>17413872
>>17413863

>>17413463
Post more photos of them please; I’ve been considering buying a pair.

>>17413987
Why isn't the whole top lift made of rubber?

>>17414047
Those aren't mine. It's a screenshot from vinted. I was considering getting a pair after shilling the french rangers about a year ago. You csan get them brand new for about 40€ on there. But I've already have three pairs of combat boots that I don't wear that much.

>>17413330
Are these too long?
>fit snug around heel
>tiniest bit of wiggle room around the middle of the shoe
>ball of foot is at the 'flexion point' (I think)
>
>two thumbs between big toe and shoe tip

>>17414478
Too long and probably too narrow from what I'm seeing.
Typically with a pointy tip shoe like that, the toe being too long is normal, but your big toe lines up with the part of the shoe where the ball of your foot is supposed to go.

>>17414478
wrong last for your foot. the widest part of your foot doesn't line up

>>17414478
Looks like they were made to be worn like that.

>>17414478
Are you getting excessive heel slip?

>>17414495
not at all. Basically everything fits except the length.
>>17414483
>>17414482
I checked... meermin doesn't even have a different last for that color. I can't return them either.

Should I sell them?

>>17414504
>not at all. Basically everything fits except the length.
Then there is literally nothing wrong.

>>17413614
>>17413620
Whites and Nicks make good boots but they are chunky and fat
Viberg or Alden (both more expensive) make boots that look more like those Thursdays
Other options are C&J or Carmina and within your price range.

Pic related, it's C&J's homepage right now.

Matte leathers go by different names, it could be roughout or waxed suede or roughout suede or waxy commander, depends on the brand.
But not all smooth leathers have to be shiny, I have boots in brown CXL and they are not shiny. CXL is not really made for shining anyway.

>>17414434
I don't know bro, because some people like it like this

>>17414504
>not at all. Basically everything fits except the length.
Excess length is not a sign of a bad fit.
If it flexes at the right point, it's not uncomfortable and there is no heel slip, it's probably the right size. If the facings almost close (but not touching) on an oxford, that's also a great fit but that's almost impossible to get right on a ready to wear shoe.

>soft toe 55 last
>olive waxed flesh
>ready to ship

Any good boots for someone who has bunions? Something with a wide toe box.

What are some higher quality boots taht have the same slim profile of Thursday boots?

I've never owned boots. Are they actually comfortable? Do you wear thick socks so they aren't rough against the tops and sides of your feet?

Recommendations on a BIFL (or close to) pair of insulated leather combat style boots for winter?
I dragged out a pair of Redwing King Toes (they were a work boot for years, so they got tons of wear and tear all year round) for about 8 years, but the insides are starting to wear.
Need something that will hold up to slush, deep snow, etc.

>>17414746
>Need something that will hold up to slush, deep snow, etc.
bean boots, otherwise something veldt and probably roughout that you can drown in oil or wax.

>>17414746
Danner RAT boots, cold weather GTX.

>>17414542
Color looks like baby shit

>>17414638
I like these but probably plain toe better for a casual boot

>>17414693
viberg 2030

>>17414693
there is something seriously wrong with their last, it looks so wrong on boots for me.

>>17414734
As long as you get the correct size and break in your boot, leather boots are extremely comfortable. When you have a pair of perfectly-fitting boots, its very tough to not wear them all the time

>>17414996
700 dollars
stitch down...

>>17414527
Viberg is for widefags.

>>17415039
Is Viberg the next clowny shoe for the general?

So, all my shoes and boots are size 13, but the issue i have with everyone of them is the part at the bottom of the first loophole is always super tight. I think thats the instep. I always do over under laces as well and its still tight. What could remedy this? Usually with breaking in it gets better but its still always "there". Should i be sizing up? the issue with this is there are no 13.5, its just a whole inch up

>>17415124
you need a higher volume last like the White's 55

how to style black suede saint laurents?

gonna see how these do

>>17415125
I own the chore boot which is 610. Initially it was brutal, but i bot some thick wool socks and with time it got much better. But again, my feet are exhausted at the end of the day with those boots. But what you're saying is, stick to size 13 but just try out the last 55? Ive been eyeing the cruiser

>>17415124
I thought the instep is higher up, basically the area starting from the first lace all the way up to the final lace on a non-boot.

As always with shoe fits it can be something else entirely that's causing it, for example if your shoes are too narrow the leather will stretch sideways and be pulled down making it feel like there's not enough height.

>>17415124
>What could remedy this?
skip the first eyelets

>>17415149
huh, ill try this out

>>17413330
thoughts?

>>17415158
I do not own a chukka but people who do tend to like them a lot
If I were to buy one I'd probably get it in suede and with 3 eyelets though

>>17415130
Please don't
Dainite is horrible

>>17415158
get astorflex

>>17415169
>mfw already bought
all they had in my size and i dont want leather soles

>>17415175
Oak Street is pretty good about returns, so don't worry if they feel like shit (they will).

>>17415169
>Dainite is horrible
wrong.

>>17415128
Full SLP

>>17415124
Try crisscross lacing, easier to adjust tightness in a given spot

>>17413330
My gf wants boots for work. We're in EU. Budget = cheap entry level stuff
What are her options?

>>17413330
What are the best “Blundstone”-style slip on work-ish boots?

>>17415375
rm williams

#FreeYe

Actually not as goofy as they looked in the memes

>>17415382

>>17415180
>Wrong

>>17415498
goth girl effay

>>17415382
Stop wearing your daddy's clothes and buy your own little man

>>17415382
why are you wearing your dad's jacket

How do you know if you overconditioned your boots? And if you did, how do you fix it?

>>17415530
>How do you know if you overconditioned your boots
sticky/tacky/flat looking surface
> And if you did, how do you fix it?
wear them hard in inclement conditions without conditioning

>>17415530
Wash with soapy water

>>17414639
I like the toe bug for a boot that isn't overtly western otherwise. Who makes this?

>>17414734
>so they aren't rough against the tops and sides of your feet?
Good boots will often have a cow or calfskin liner. There's good boots that won't, and for those you'll want good wool socks.
But you want merino wool socks anyway. A whole laundry list of benefits, and they're simply more durable than anything else.
https://darntough.com/collections/tactical-socks/products/unisex-merino-wool-t4021-tactical-boot-midweight-tactical-socks

>the price
I have also literally never had to throw these socks away during three years of bartending. The usual polyester/nylon/cotton socks get holes way too fast. These don't.

>>17415069
Always has been.

>>17415542
unmarked

>>17415158
I'm not a chukka expert but I do like them. Here's what I look for
>does it have a shank?
>does it have a liner or a celastic toe?
>how secure do you need to be?
>how clean/presentable do you need it to be?

Clarks need to be mentioned because they're the most accessible chukka brand, and I don't recommend them. No shank so the heel is focusing pressure in a line into your foot. Lots of chukkas are built similarly and I hate it. If you have a heel, you need a shank.
Liner and/or celastic toe keep the shape together, more professional, but I think unlined, unstructured chukkas have more soul. It's a light casual boot. Alden and Meermin have good options here.
Similarly, I think two eyelet builds have more soul, and it's perfectly secure if your fit is good. But three eyelets mean you can cinch it down secure on your ankle if the last isn't perfect for your foot.
And lastly, I love the look of crepe soles, especially undyed crepe, but it really does pick of dirt something horrible. Leather soles are fine, but I'm not aware of a leather sole, stitchdown construction, unlined chukka. I would love it if I knew who sold one, otherwise I'll have to go custom eventually.
So you'll have to accept the sturdier, less light & casual goodyear welt or similar, unless you want crepe.

>>17415336
Consider Urban Shephard or William Lennon & Co.
If you have to go cheaper, I guess you can roll the dice with Solovairs or buy milslurp.

>>17415375
Redbacks or Rossi.
Blundstone took their manufacturing to the SEAniggers so fuck them.

are 8111s overrated?

>>17415336
Cheaney make good womens boots and are on sale rn.

>>17413330
where can you get boots like picrel? seems like either really expensive equestrian one or shitty cosplay one

>>17415563
Stop shilling shitter overpriced mexican poo shoes, those are not worth a damn

>>17415602
engineers

>>17415608
are you saying its name is "engineers boots"? looks like your pic is some 2k boots from wesco or whatever.

>>17415619
ah looks like its the name. thanks. do you know which makes makes most reasonably prices yet decent black engineers boots?

>>17415624
Wesco

>>17415624
wesco are the most reasonably priced engineers

>>17415626
>>17415630
thank you

>>17415633
Don't thank me, thank your lord and savior jesus christ for bringing me into your life

>>17415637
>t.

>>17415602
i only see women wearing those - every woman i´ve met has a pair, i´ve never seen a man irl wearing engineers, specially with the pants tucked into them

>>17415654

>>17415654
Those aren't engineers. Those are inspired by equestrian boots, while not being exactly riding boots nor suitable for it. Women love them because of the high class aura they have.

>>17415654
Sorry you're not a man from good breeding.

>>17415654
thats how things used to be tho.... officer boots, etc

>>17415657
Men who have zippers on their feet are gay.

>>17415654
>>17415602
The term is 'jack boots' isn't it?

>>17415671
No.

>>17415658
Yeah and men also used to dress like this. What's your agenda, faggot?

>>17415676
dude that's effay as fuck

>>17415677
post pics of you in that fit, especially the part where your tight ass just barely hangs out beneath the doublet.

>>17415503
>>17415524
Same jacket I wore when I took ur mum home

>>17413330
>there are people itt right now that don't have black boots

ngmi

>>17415704
Capri pants are for faggots and women (also faggots) same as cuban heels.

These look great but I get the feeling I can get better derby shoes elsewhere. Suggestions?

>>17415699
Poor baby, can you really not come up with anything better little man?

>>17415708
that picture has neither of those. are you trying to make a joke or something or are you just one of those fat/short guys that can't wear simple tapered jeans?

>>17415715
You wish. Keep wearing those capri pants, homo.

you know the drill
>requirements to wear these

>>17415712
White's has the toughest "oxfords" you'll ever wear.

>>17415704
Based.

>>17415736
Damn son
Is that heel a bit too cuban, though?

>>17415743
you keep using that word

>>17415743
That heel will make you a sexual tyrannosaur*

*if you're white

>>17415736
I hate these clompers

>>17415750
He's a retard that got called out for not knowing what a cuban heel is and know he think he's trolling by spamming that. Also apparently he just outed himself as king of the manlets as well

>>17415714
Post fit bro I could use a good laugh

>>17415757
>>17415743
Same anon angry about wearing gay clothing.

>>17415762
Anon. You're in a leather thread.

>>17415762
>>17415757
Actually I'm not. I'm looking for good derbys and was told several threads about cuban heels made you look gay depending on where you were (and in this part of the country, it does)

>>17415766
Yeah? Well people on the internet told me that posting on forums made you look gay depending on where you were.

>>17415765
Just because you wear leather doesn't make you gay or a fag. Being a gay fag is a state of mind.
>>17415766
Don't tell the west coast faggots that, they'll shit up the thread for another six days trying to tell themselves that they aren't HIV positive.

>>17415736
This looks great, but how tall does the heel have to be until they look tacky for somewhat above-casual wear?
>>17415752
What would work good with a look like that?
>>17415754
What's wrong with them?

>>17415770
>wearing leather won't make you gay
Keep saying that and it'll happen eventually

>>17415774
Damn, Triumphs are nice bikes.

>straight block heels are cuban

>>17415772
>What would work good with a look like that?
Needlepoint and other fine corduroy

>>17415762
What clothing are you even talking about, spergus maximus

>>17415779
It's anon bitching about being called a fag last fucking week over his fetish for cuban heels and he has yet to get over it, just ignore him.

thursdays - quality boots - quality belts

>>17415774
how 2 cop brando style

>>17415772
It's not just height, anon. Tall and slim heels require you to be tall and slim and have a sleek fit.
Wider, squarer heels are for working men.

Also unironically, there is a sweet spot on heel height and arch support that makes a boot more comfortable. a 1 3/8" heel is called a walking heel in the southwest. Taller than that is a riding heel. Lower than that is a formal heel. It depends on your needs.

>>17415783
It's not even me. Some fag is pretending to be upset

>>17415704
where can I buy in the US black matte boots like these?

>>17415790
be handsome
grow up playing football

>>17415783
>>17415803
>>17415779
What I find fucking weird is that I just asked a mild question about the heel of a derby shoe, maybe a misguided question, and triggered every person in the thread. I didn't realize this was such a sore spot that even asking about it results in accusations of being 'upset'.

>>17415804
amazon

>>17415806
>purposely use a word wrong
>hurr durr why are people calling me a retard

>>17415806
BECAUSE YOU'RE A RETARD AND I HATE YOU FAG

>>17415809
>purposefully
It wasn't purposeful.
>>17415810
Understandable, have a nice day.

>>17415806
You're fine. Complaining about heels is funny because only PNWfags get options when they go to buy boots.

>>17415793
Great advice. So lower heels are for formalwear, higher for working wear.
Next question, how does a higher heel result in more comfy arch support? Is it the angle that it changes inside the shoe? Only asking because my feet are flat.

>>17415784
Is this bonded leather? These belts are $80 on their site.

>>17415813

>>17415704
unironically first pair in this thread i actually like. having never worn boots, im thinking about these: black Caterpillar at ~110 euros. I guess they are just budget timbers but they look fine to me. im open to suggestions

>>17415820
I see a ton of synthetic leather, which isn't a bad thing if they're a workboot, but I do know from experience synthetic leather comes apart from scratches and results in it flaking. These kind of boots are supposed to be throwaway boots for construction workers, no?

>>17415760
But I already got mine, so why would I do that you stupid loser? Stay poor and dumb.

>>17415817
Anything with a high heel, high arch is balancing the body weight. Once you start lowering a heel, you start shifting body weight backwards, and that’s where you can start to get fatigue and pressure on the lower back, knees, and your quads and other muscles in your legs.

That isn't to say that taller = better, since more height means higher center of gravity, means less stability.
Riding boots can get away with taller heels because you're in a saddle. The taller heel helps keep the stirrup from slipping away, and that matters more than lost stability.
Look at the Logger heels that White's uses. It's at least 1/4" to 1/2" taller than what men usually wear, but it isn't so tall or narrow that you're losing stability.

>>17415820
They're fine for the price. Timbs arent better, they're the same cemented stuff, just more expensive

>>17415804
There you go. Cats

>>17415828
Great advice, thanks

>>17415817
a higher heel, along with the proper arch support shifts the weight bearing from your toes to more of the arch and heel

>>17415828
logger heel

>>17415828
>>17415833
Holy whites cope. Explain why our feet are flat if not having a higher heel makes you "fatigued" lmao. Whites manlet heels are just retarded there's no way around it. They are unironically almost as big and blocky as thursdays, and no amount of arch support will make them look good

>>17415827
My left boot costs more than your whole fit

>>17415836
There it is, easily the gayest boot in america

>>17415840
sorry about your fallen arches anon

>>17415823
>These kind of boots are supposed to be throwaway boots for construction workers, no?
maybe but i want them for everyday winter/cold weather. second option brown suede boots. they look a little better fashion wise. a lot cleaner

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Footwear-Practitioner-Fashion-Boots-Coffee/dp/B097HPXW7D

>>17415842
All americans are gay. That's a useless metric.

>non whites SEETHING about whites AGAIN

>>17415849
Not sorry!

>>17415779
peep the cuban heel on my nikes

>>17415854
no no because the angles are facing outwards those are actually reverse cuban heels

>>17415854
I want a boot with that upper
like a 10" shaft too
lace to toe

>>17415853
Should put a "honk honk" somewhere in that picture

>>17415858

How do I care for steel toe boots? The leather on mine always gets scuffed and the skin torn, I don't care so much because they're work boots after all, but i'd like to keep them looking nice if I can help it

>>17415836
>>17415842
It's not even about the gay vibe. It just looks like shit. Americans are just completely clueless about what looks good or not, they really can't do anything about it. I thought australians dressed badly before visiting the states lmao.

>>17415872
I'm here for it

>>17415845
..I think I just found what I'm going to ask for in my next boot request when I get it early next year.

>>17415841
Lol
Lmao even
You wish champ, I don't think your boot was over 3k

>>17415888
>888
im leaning towards the brown suedes as well.

>>17415382
Why do you only ever post the same picture of you trying them on in the store? It's like you couldn't actually afford to buy them.

>>17415841
>defaults to cost
maby buy things of quality rather than engaging in conspicuous consumption
were not impressed you dropped an unreasonable amount on plastic

>>17415936
It's how poor people think, they like to brag to other poor people about how much their stuff cost because having money is such a rarity for them. I don't think he even bought them, he just tried them on in a store and took a picture to try and flex on people so he could feel better about himself.

>>17415949
bruh im poor and i wouldnt flex the price of my shoes id flex the quality
hes just retarded

none better

>>17415736
Is there a cheaper alternative to spend 700 dollars on a shoe like this or should I just make a savings and earn up to it?

>>17416034
You should absolutely save up for a pair of handwelted in the usa boots

>>17413809
They should be 500 US tops.

Should I get a size 7 or 8 tornados from CCP, If I wear a size 43 that fits a bit big normally?

>>17416036
What difference does this make?

>>17415175
I don't like leather soles either, just pick other rubber soles than dainite.

It's hard and will last a long time.
But that makes it slippery and uncomfortable.

Dainite on wet marble is a 50/50 gamble every time

>bakers lady called me back about the boots I ordered
Gonna be an old man by the time they come in.

>>17416110
I'm thinking of changing to the mini half-lug, though.

>>17416081
Nothing

any good made in sweden boots?

>>17416161
Skolyx and Skoak both have their own brands but they're made in Spain

There's a Swedish tannery called Tarnsjo that supposedly makes pretty comfy soft grain leathers.
Bonafe can make shoes out of them but I am guessing only if you ask Skoak (I guess Skoak sources the leather for old Enzo)

Ever since I got into shoes I hate straight cut trousers, I want that tapered opening to show off more of the shoe

I'm sorry if I sound vain

>>17413382
I just bought cheap ones from orban's, velasca and septième largeur make nice pricier ones.

bought my first pair of boots

how did I go

>>17415502
That's not goth, retard.

>>17416201
thanks
skoaktiebolaget are out of my price range but the skolyx seem quite good

>>17416274
pretty poorly if I'm being honest but as long as you like them

>>17415382
they look like something out of team fortress 2, and you look like a total fucking tool. even without the cartoon boots you're too short for such an oversized jacket

>>17416034
You can get a cheaper boot that looks similar, yes. What you're paying $700 for is an excellent last and solid leather internals which makes the shoe far and away more supportive and stable.
Any monkey can fill a boot with foam, which is comfy, sure, but that breaks down over time and the constant squish means less stability on your feet. You are constantly re-breaking in the boot.

My experience with White's is this: I paid $700, and now I no longer want to wear my $300 boots because the chunky White's monster is far and away the most comfortable boot I have. And the most durable.
Bad in airports due to all the lacing but just wonderful otherwise.

honk honk, by the way

>>17415704
I'm flattered by people posting my pics, but honestly those aren't even my favourite pair and I find myself unable to wear them with anything that isn't black or gray, severely limiting my options (although half my pants are indeed black or grey)

>>17416034
>>17416443
to add:
https://www.trumanboot.com/collections/derbies-chukkas

Truman makes an okay boot. Definitely able to bring the price down. They're not rugged like White's or Franks, but if we're talking about derbies, who cares? You're not wearing these on a hike in the Cascades or Olympia.

>>17416443
>>17416450
Thank you so much anon. I probably will not be taking my derby shoes hiking, but the comfort is a big factor as well. I got a big decision to make

Hey guys, i have a question about leather boot care. I need something to cream them with so the leather doesnt start flaking and cracking. I bought this shoe polish with beeswax that says it should protect and nourish but its still shoe polish so im wondering is that enough to protect the leather or do i have to get a leather cream or wax for that? And how often to i have to cream them?

can somebody recommend me a good pair of alpine style boots for like $250-300

>>17416563
fracap for fashion purposes

lowa, meindl, scarpa, lasportiva for actual hiking purposes

>>17416513
tl;dr I use Bick 4 for conditioner cream. The stuff works great and I've never had it overcondition anything. Depending on what you need, you may want Redwing shoe cream.

Take note, there's leather polish and leather conditioner. Conditioner 'conditions' the boots by adding oil into the porous leather, polish protects the boots with an exterior layer of wax. Conditioner can come as a cream which is a wax/oil compound, or as a liquid such as mink oil. polish like yours can have beeswax and oil inside of it, which should let the oil soak in while the wax stays on top.

On top of this, saddle soap 'cleans' the leather, and pulls oil and anything else out.

Be warned, all conditioners that are actually conditioning darken the leather to some extent. Depending on the oil, it can either stay darkened or go back to its original color depending on the compound. Mink oil is notorious for darkening leather but being one of the best conditioners you can use. Bick 4 darkens but then slowly returns it to normal as the compound evaporates, usually within a day. The best cream I've found that does not darken leather is Redwing Shoe Cream

DHL still hasn't shipped my Indys, at this point I doubt I will receive them tomorrow

That means they're coming in 2023 which means everyone will be back in the office which means I will have a lot of people asking "what's in the box" and "what's the brand" and "how much do they cost"

When I got my Vibergs I was out of office so I told them to put the box under my desk and the box literally had the description and price on the box "boots 680€"
thankfully nobody noticed

>>17416513
Follow the guide:
https://www.trumanboot.com/pages/leather-care-guide

>>17416664
Why the fuck do you not just ship to your house or a PO Box

>>17416658
>>17416675
I see, thnx for clearing that up, I was confused about the difference between the polish and creams I saw people using. Il also look for a conditioner then.

>>17416699
I am not at home all day
I might ask DHL to leave it at one of their stores so I can pick it up I guess, but it's not convenient

>>17416723
Conditioner every 6 months for all shoes and boots. There's even suede conditioner in spray form (with color). For suede you should also apply waterproofing spray every 6 months.

For smooth leathers that you want to keep looking sharp, shoe cream with color every now and then to cover up any damage. You can brush this to remove excess cream and polish a little bit.
Maybe do not do this if you want your boots to look 'distressed' (yikes).

For smooth leathers on formal, dressy shoes, apply wax (with or without color) to make them shine a lot. Apply one or two layers to the whole shoe then buff it with a slightly damp cloth. On areas that do not flex (toe cap, heel) you can apply many layers and then buff over and over again until it looks like a mirror.

Obviously you can see why suede is so good. It looks nice, it's not very formal, it's very soft and comfy, it only needs a bit of spraying every few months and maybe some brushing now and then.
Just be a little careful not to drop food on it, otherwise you have to clean it with suede shampoo.

Are these Solovair good casual slim boots? Or should I get some other brand? Also, should I get matte or high shine?

>>17415382
How goofy did they look in the memes?????

>>17416739
Matte is easier to maintain. Solovair arent' slim in my opinion. The (fake) welt is on the larger side and sticks out on the heel, and the toe is quite bulky.

Just copped what y’all think

>>17416664
You have several options
1) Lie
2) tell truth
3) tell them to mind their business

>>17416749
The exterior stitching is fake but the sole is truly welted to the boot; the real stitching is just hidden from exterior view

>>17416675
How good are Trumans?

>>17416735
i see i see, ty!

>>17415734
W2c trousers?

>>17416443
>My experience with White's is this: I paid $700, and now I no longer want to wear my $300 boots because the chunky White's monster is far and away the most comfortable boot I have. And the most durable.
pretty much this

>>17416735
Well no, it depends on how you wear them. Going to the office and Macy's that's probably fine but if they're getting dirty and wet a lot they'll need to be cleaned and conditioned more often

>>17416739
Never buy soloshitters. No they are not good. Yes you should get some other brand. If you want sub-par quality for that look just get docs. Even the made in china ones are better. Otherwise get paramemes, french rangers, etc.

>use suede eraser
>shoes disappear
fuck

>>17416865
>They actually apologized
ngl, that puts them ahead of Thursdays in my book whereas the defects are "part of the final product"

>>17416867
I was warned..

>>17415158
I had a pair from 2010 to 2019. I replaced them with an "identical" pair (albeit beeswax instead of brown leather) and the fit was off and I'm about to throw them away. Both were daily boots for me.

I have no idea what they've done to make the soles less durable and why the fit is different but I'm now looking for something similar by a different company.

One thing I can say is that even though the fit wasn't as good in the second pair as the first, it was still really good for me. I have wide feet so it was a real bonus to be able to find that level of comfort.

If you're interest in the soles, I walk with a slight angle when my my foot hits the ground. What this means is the heel wears on the outer edge and once worn beyond a certain point means it becomes uncomfortable to even stand in them because my weight is pressing down and angling my feet.

As others said, the crepe sole picks up dirt like crazy and can look pretty hideous. They can clean up nicely, but it's a fools errand.

In short, great boots, deserving of the reputation, but from experience not what they used to be. They have a newer version of the boot which has some differences and I'm interested in trying it, but I'm put off by the performance of the current "classics".

If anybody has experience with the new ones I'm interested to know how they are. I'm kind of tempted to get sand suede ones as a summer boot only, but they're done as a daily boot for me now.

>>17415158
>shankless boot designed for the sands
performs very very poorly walking on pavement

I finally got to try on Saint Laurent Wyatt boots today but they don't fit me right. Very disappointing in every respect except for my bank balance. Do you have any suggestions for similar looking boots?

As an aside, what are your thoughts on Russell & Bromley? I quite like pic related. I want some black boots.

Made the mistake of ordering Soloshits monkey boots for the missus before seeing some of the woeful finishing.

Anyone got any recommendations for better brands in the entry level (£300) range please?

>>17416967
you never considered the low price point is the cause of low quality?

>>17416882
thursday will just keep sending replacements for you to qc till one is acceptable

>>17416988
sounds like a good business model considering 99.9% of their customer base are mouth breathing retards that wouldn't know better.

>>17417002
they actually say its a selling point and 'good customer service'

>>17416865
I don't have an issue with this.

>>17416749
>Solovair arent' slim in my opinion.
Damn, I thought they looked slim in the pictures. Do you have any other recommendations for slim boots?

>>17416958
Joseph cheaney got chelsea boots that might fit that bill. Also might look at Jodhpur boots, scarosso got some i think

>>17417032
Can't believe I forgot about Cheaney. Annoying because I was in Cambridge recently... The Godwin is beautiful.

>>17416968
Nah, I'll admit I made the mistake of doing "YouTube research" and believing the hype that they're "Da real Doc Martens" bs

How can i tell goodyear and veldt apart from the welt stitching?

>>17416882
Yeah the customer service was legit, even though they gave me a fucked up pair as an exchange. That just proved all of their stock is trash. Otherwise they didn't make me pay for shipping, and they also let me keep the extra insoles for free. Or they just forgot idk. I just got pissed at them for fucking me over twice in a row and wasting my fucking time. I got a schott jacket and the same thing almost happened again. First one was garbage, but at least they sent me a proper one with the exchange. I don't know why Solovair tried to fuck me over twice in a row.

>>17417018
You gotta be retarded then.

Are the made in England Doc Martens any good? I recently saw a documentary about how clothes in Britain are just made by indian immigrants in sweat shops anyway so is there any difference from the outsourced onces? If not what should I be looking for instead for a good everyday boot, is Solovair a meme too?

What are some high quality boots with a wide toebox that don’t look like clown shoes? HELP!

>>17417102
White's 4811 and 55 lasts

>>17417101
Soloshitters are allegedly made in the UK, and well you can decide for yourself >>17416865

>>17417097
I think Schott are pretty good generally but maybe they’ve deteriorated

>>17417118
I think it's anything to do with online orders, and especially during discounts. Feel like all stores just try and get rid of their bad items and hope the customer is some retard from reddit that wouldn't notice a defect.

>>17417102
Alden Indy.
Lots of them don’t look like clown shoes from any other angle than directly above, maybe not the one on the right of your picture as it is really exaggerated.

>>17416813
Wish I knew brother. The boots are C&J Islay but trousers are hard to find.

>>17417102
Bonafe 363mod is comfy and hides the width very well

It's one of my best fitting boots

>>17417097
I don't have an issue with the customer support.
>>17417101
The only boot of theirs worth getting is the Saxon and they haven't made it in ages.

>>17417142
very sexy, i really want a shell boot made by enzo bonafe and maybe a suede indy. Gonna sell one pair of my vibergs as i don't like them that much anyway.

>finally found a buyer for my old ass IR's
>didn't see it until 6 days later
i hope hes still interested i wanna get rid of them

>>17416782
Good for the price. Heel counter is, I believe, leatherboard and they may not have toe caps even if you see the medallion.
I definitely would not buy them as a work boot, although some of the sturdier models could be used for casual hiking. But it's very apparent from how they use oddball leathers that they're a fashion boot company, not a work boot company. I'd only hold that distinction against them if they were pretending to be something they're not.

>>17417126
Yeah makes sense, but naughty still.

Where can I find these boots?

>>17417264
ebay.com "black leather milslurp boots"
don't spend more than $40 or you're getting gypped.

>"Olivvia Black Oiled range – A black oiled leather that has a heavy waxed finish, which gives it a lovely matt oiled colour. It also has all the other characteristics associated with Olivvia to give it that soft and supple feel."

is this leather used by Trickers in some shoes any good or is it riding the woke eco faggot hype train bs ?
should i go for their normal calf leather?

>>17417029
In my opinion, the sleekest and best looking ones are the SLP rangers. Sadly they are out of production, and the few used pairs you can find around are too expensive imo. Some cheaper (and shorter) lookalikes are Ofanto Matera boots, pic rel. Cemented construction, but they're not working boots supposed to last decades, they are made in Italy, and for the price (150 eur) they look okay. I actually considered buying them myself, might do it in the future. Personally I own a pair of Shoepassion, some anon posted their picture somewhere earlier in the thread. They're still sleek, more expensive than ofanto, they have a stitched midsole and a glued outsole and are made in Spain

>>17417294
>It is environmental-conscious thus it must be bad
This ain't Zara pal.

>>17417104
Honk Honk and Chonk Chonk

>>17417087
veldtschoen will have the upper leather flanged out over the welt.

>>17417305
i don't want to take chances bud
that's why i'm asking

Recommend me a nice safety work boot.
Just landed a job as a woodworking teacher and got me this pair of safety boots. Wanted goodyear welt mocc toe for a while but I suspect I'll get tired of it eventually.
What would you rec for my next pair? No more than 6" please

>>17417269
Thanks fren

>>17417315
Red wings moc toe.
Do you need a steel toe?

>>17417324
Yes, steel toe and reinforced sole. CSA mandatory

>>17417327
>CSA mandatory
Viberg makes some workboots
https://workboot.com/collections/csa-boots

>>17415854
Why do shoes look like that these days? So fucking uggllyyyyy oh my goooooooodddddddddddd

>>17416865
you can bully customer service until you get a decent pair, they are not good by any extent, but they are passable if you want to like them... had a pair but i ended up selling them, and the crooked tongue, yes that´s a common issue, but even my vibergs have crooked tongue, but i bought those on a final sale so i just have to live with that

>>17417294
go for regular calf, i bought a pair of bourtons made with that olivia leather and it´s super thin, has no dept of color and feels like they are cheaping out, that´s the only pair of trickers that i dont love.....

>>17417336
Any model in particular? I already own two pairs of those in brown and black and every other model of 6" csa boots on that site is frankly unappealing

>>17417349
>AHA!

The plot thickens !
Anyone else has negative opinions that leather ?

>>17417356
Maybe the bobcat, you’d want some ankle support if you are on your feet all day.

>>17413633
cheap ones because he was broke

>>17417361
I appreciate the inout, but like I said, I already own two pairs of similar boot to those, disregarding the fact that bobcats look objectively worts to the ones I already own.

If I'm an europoor and wanted to buy a pair of engineers what options do I have? As far as I know american companies don't ship to Europe. It's not a common style that can be easily found with other shoe makers.

>>17416958
carmina zip boots

>>17417533
>>17417533
>>17417533

NEW

>>17417533
>>17417533
>>17417533

>>17417315
https://www.carolinashoe.com/en/technology-and-features.html

pick what you need. Thorogood also makes boots for steel workers, construction, etc., but their website isn't as good.
either brand will survive a season and a few resoles, without requiring the cost upfront that the super heavy duty Whites or Franks work boots will