/fa/ - Fashion

>>17400998
Thanks. I'll call them up today and put in an order.

>>17401004
My favorite clone of the Galway is the one made by Enzo Bonafe
But because a specific US retailer asked for the design first and EB didn't think of it on their own, he has exclusivity and you have to place your MTOs for it through him.

Kinda weird considering it's a clone but I suspect old Enzo didn't know

>>17401004
Carmina also makes a clone and it is very affordable.
Their peak goes up instead of down

Shell is like 1200€ for MTO.
Normal leathers/suede should be like 600€ for MTO.

>>17401004
The most affordable Galway clone probably comes from TLB
It's 500€ in RTW or less than 600€ for an MTO.
Quality and finishing are superior to Carmina. You get a real leather heel stiffener and all that.

As always with TLB, the problem is the lack of options. Can't do shell. There's no option to add eyelets (biggest problem imo). No option for fancy soles like Ridgeway, it's either dainite or full on commando. Even the rounded last is pretty pointy and dressy.

>>17401021
It's best described as a rich chocolate brown

Just copped pic related from Trickers’ sale. How’d I do?

>>17401103
Matches my leather coat. I mostly wear dark blue jeans so that’s what I need

Is there anything like Jadon but not made from absolute garbage?
don't care about the platform but I really like that the tongue and a lot of laces are visible even if you lace it tightly.

>>17401125
blue is the next meme color I need
either that or green

>>17401213
Vikang green.

Does /fa/ approve?

https://www.us.rains.com/collections/shoes-and-boots/products/combat-boot-neopren?variant=40220335439895&intl

Alright, I fell for the meme. I guess I'll see you in 8 months.

Does anyone here own multiple PNW boots?

>>17401170
Bro? That’s just boots

>>17401411
Don't reply to D*cs posters. Thanks in advance.

>>17401390
yes

>>17401421
Why?
You wanted a different color? I'm not trying to be antagonistic, I just think they all look the same asides from the obvious differences like lineman patches, lug sole or not, shaft height, or if they're engineers or station boots

The silhouette seems so similar that I don't get the point of owning two

>>17401430
some for work and some for general use.

>>17401390
yes

>>17401430
there are still differences and varieties in PNW boots
>viberg: unlined shaft, softer more flexible overall, less arch support, great for short errand wears
>Whites: strong secure fit, great arch support for full days' work
>wesco: middle of the road, flexible but supportive, something you can pull on real quick

parkurstbros its over

>>17401478
what happened, bought by chinks? featured in a hiphop video?

>>17401478
Yeah I’m done
Fuck Andrew
Waited like 2 years for black Allens

>>17401472
aren't whites unlined too?

>>17401486
no whites are fully lined in the shaft, the vibergs are not

>>17401489
they don't like doing top down photos, but that tongue doesn't look lined at all
hard for me to tell

>>17401481
>what happened
nothing and thats the problem

>>17401497
>lined tongues
i think PNW boots don't have lined tongues, they're usually made to be oversized so that you fold it over itself during wear

>>17401497
>>17401513
Tongue and shaft are unlined on mine.

why would you ever line the tongue

>>17401520
more comfy

>>17401516
nice, what leather

>>17401520
well if you're using thin leather and small tongue it makes sense

>>17401524
Red Dog. Goes great with rust-colored jackets.

>>17400996
Its simple in that it doesn't have multiple textures or too many different patches of fabric and stitching covering the upper like pic related.

>>17401004
Should I do it lads? Been wanting a pair for a while and my big raise is going through after the new year.

>>17401516
Why don’t they ever line the middle with roughout to cover the central stitching? It can easily fall apart over time if not covered.

>>17401535
you have no idea what you want desu

>>17401543
the cobbler jew strikes again. he demands you pay for rebuilds

shoulda bought ariats

>>17401529
nice

>>17401543
>Why don’t they ever line the middle with roughout to cover the central stitching?
backstay

>>17401537
Yes. Despite what people say the quality is not that bad and any copy you buy just won’t scratch the itch. Plus the TruBalance last is awesome.

>See beautiful exotics for pennies on the dollar on fleabay.
>always some obscure size in AAAAAAA or EEEEEEE.
Yet everyday i still cruise the auctions.

>>17401543
Specs sperg doomposting eventually comes to PNW boots.

>>17401619
maybe the perfect boot doesn't exist

>>17401545
Do you not see how this design is simpler than the one above?

>>17401623
no faggot

>>17401623
go buy your parameme boots already, faggot. That's what you want.

>>17400888
>>17401535
>>17401623
>>>/k/

>>17401590
Yeah I've heard the last is comfy. I've also been searching for alternatives for a while and everything looks like shit in comparison. I'll probably just go for it after the holidays.

bootsmell?

Does CXL leather stretch much? I have a pair of moccasins that are 1/2 size too small. Will they eventually stretch enough to be comfy? My toes slightly graze the front of the toebox too.

>>17401738
double sock a shoe tree and put them in after wear

What are your nightmares, bootgen?

For me it'd be those funky CF Stead or du puy leathers Taft uses, but on a PNW boot. And it's been bastardized and has a chisel toe.
I don't know what heel/sole style would bother me most.

>>17401748
Will this work?

>>17401778
no you're boot will explode

>>17401778
if its a true handsewn yes

>>17401489
My semi dress are not lined in the shaft

>>17401798
Yea its a handsewn and unlined. Do I need to use shoe trees or can I just continue to wear them and they will eventually stretch out. How long should it take?

>>17401738
If your toes are touching it's over, they can stretch width wise but they're not gonna get any longer

>GYW still gets a leather shank
neato

>>17401856
thankfully no c*lastic in handsewn mocs so it can stretch

>>17401856
>it’s over
Really? Why would it stretch width wise and not length? Not at all? I don’t need much space, maybe 1/10 of an inch.

>>17401858
>thankfully no c*lastic in handsewn mocs so it can stretch
What does this mean?

>>17401863
c*lastic is bad and make your boots soulless.

>>17401863
toe boxes were not meant to be structured. they were meant to be free

id on these boots?

>>17401868
alden unstructured chukkas

>>17401858
>>17401859
I don't know if moccasins are different but I've always heard that boots do not stretch length wise and that you should never buy them if your toes are touching the end

>>17401859
same reason boats roll on their side to capsize rather than tipping up at the bow and doing a flip
it's easier
energy/physics always follows the path of least resistance

>>17401863
>>17401873
most shoes boots have a rigid plastic toe cap, handsewn mocs do not

1 or 2

>>17401416
if you knew how to read, you'd know that i DON'T want docs, but a proper boot.

>>17401866
Toe stiffener is necessary to keep the structure of a well sculpted toe shape. This concept is probably alien to the average clown boots poppers.

>>17401065
these would be my choice if i would get a galway clone

>>17401916
2
If you're going for a flat toe shilouette, it looks better if the sole is less curved upwards imho

>>17401979
White's uses celastic. You're responding to an unlined Alden shill.

>>17401916
don't wear sprung toe unless you're a spic or a gook

>>17402223
Not always

The matter of celastic has always been mostly aesthetic.

>nothing wrong with celastic goy

feature, not bug

can someone recommend me a good pair of alpine style boots for $300-500

>>17402386
why do they keep buying that shit

>>17401856
Even for mocassins? Shouldn’t moccasins fit snug?

This is a picture of my Bonafe color 8 shell jumpers

The left boot is more representative of the color they have normally, although I find it very hard to photograph their actual color. It looks different depending on the light, but usually it's a dark brown/burgundy.

They are probably my best fitting shoes, but they are too flashy to wear outside of the office. Maybe after a few months once they've lost their shine.

I bought the boot trees as a novelty, I've never had boot trees before. I probably wouldn't buy them again.

>>17402385
Memespeak aside, what is even your point?

What size are you in most boots anon?

>>17402596
10.75đ

>>17402596
12B

>>17402596
Not today, CIA.

what do you think about commando soles? i am still not sure. i need something for snow and other wet shit outside.

>>17402596
8.5D. Do I have big feet?
>>17402602
>>17402603
These are gigantic feet. I hope you both are 6’5.

>>17402596
fuckin feds trying to datamine my feet again

>>17402596
I'm a 10 in normal socks and 10.5 in wool socks

>>17402651
It is grippy
It is comfy
What's not to like?

Don't put it on dressy oxfords but on pretty much every other shoe, it's good.
The one in your photo that doesn't go all the way to the edge is also low profile. Ridgeway is also low profile like that. I like both and don't think one is better than the other. Both good.

boot threads seem to be the last good threads on this board

Damn those look good.

>boots
Why do you even care that much? Just go to the store, buy shit that's comfortable, made with leather and looks good.

>>17402596
All my life I thought I was a 9.5 UK
I measured my feet and turns out I'm an 11.25 on Brannock.
So that's like 10.5 UK.

I promise I am not stupid, I just thought that's how shoes should fit.
My guess is that because I have a sensitive instep I wanted my shoes to fit tight without having to lace them tightly.

I googled to see how uniquely stupid I am, and it turns out a lot of people are like me - but not Americans who apparently always buy too big.

>>17402706
Same here anon. I always thought I was a 9 US but turns out i’m a 9.5 on a brannock. I like my shoes to fit snug and I like my toes being close to the front of the shoe. I can’t stand a sloppy fit.

Anyone know where to get pic related? The exact ones

>>17402706
Why would you wear boots tightly? Especially winter ones

>>17402596
13D

is Walk London actually a good brand? I see mostly positive reviews online but those prices are suspicious

>>17402596
Jokes on you homeland security, penis inspection day is my fetish

Opinions?

>>17402748
gives me gentleman's faguette flashbacks

>>17402748
I found a picture of a similar makeup but these are a little worn

>>17402731
Of course not

my feet, the storm welt does nothing

>>17402836
Nice pants

>>17402701
They do, does anyone know if C&J uses real leather hell stiffeners? I know trickers uses leatherboard and might explain why those go on sale very often nowadays

>>17402849
https://www.gostwear.com/bill-wool-pants-p-806.html

28oz pure wool

>>17402748
Pass

>>17402836
I honestly don't think that leather shoes/boots should be used on the snow. I'd rather use specialized rubber boots for that

>>17402865
you're right, they exploded into a million pieces the moment i took them off

sexo

>>17402867
Not because of the boot itself, just because how dry would your feet be at the end of the day

>>17402859
Too bad they don't sell them in your size

I think I like the wolverine 1000 miles more than the red wings I just bought. They clean up much better and have a much lower, less clown-ish profile.

>>17402596
depends on the brand

>>17402724
a) tall leather slippers
b) some people don't live in cold countries

>>17402748
olive goes with black or tan, not brown

>>17402836
>increasing the welt height by literal millimeters did nothing!
oh noo how could this be happening I paid an extra 25 for this welt

>>17402927
(that was the joke)

How much should I size down for the IR? I’m a 9.5D brannock. I don’t want it to look like clown boots. It’s also my baby’s first boot.

>>17402992
clown boot is determined by last choice and construction style, not size.
>how to size
Go to your local red wings store.

>>17402836
What size are those? How does it feel?

>>17403045
john lofgren size 9. wholeheartedly would not recommend. the last is all kinds of wack where the throat is way too difficult to enter, plus no pull tab (super dumb for an engineer). get the wesco boss instead, better last, pull loops, cheaper too

lel someone is mad

Glove recs? I call them elevated boots.

>>17403290
hestra

How much total is everybody’s collections? I feel like I’m on the verge of a serious addiction and in need of cope

>>17403296
At least $5000, maybe closer to $10000. I have multiple pairs of Edward Green, Viberg, White's and Carmina. It's honestly out of control.

>>17403296
Around 3000, I have way too many pairs of Trickers have two pairs Carlos Santos, Viberg and one pair of loakes, I have 23 pairs total. I too felt like I was losing control but I'm controlling myself more. Stay strong anon, buying stuff like this is only a way to cope with life, you have to find a healthier way if it's hurting you, good luck

>>17403432
Lol 3000 with 23 pairs. I hit that with two, most would hit that with under 5.

>>17403432
based Wednesday boots collector

>>17402869
sexo with BBT (big black boots)

>>17402858
Also leatherboard.

>>17403296
Around $5000 maybe, i add around $1500 worth of shoes every year.

>>17402836
have you waxed them, including the welt? Veldt shoes might work better for you.

>>17403296
$2100, easy.
Everyone has something they're irrational about. Don't fight it, plan around it.

>>17402858
>might explain why those go on sale very often nowadays
That's a general trend for dress/fashion boot companies. Frye has had a permanent half-off sale for years now.
They over produce because they have/had physical stores with inventories to maintain, and/or never know when the business/fashion world will have a sudden spike in interest for a certain style.
These regular sales allow them to shift static inventory. It's part of the model. All they're doing is giving up their margin in order to save on storage costs.

It is unironically why the online-only small inventory or batch production or MTO model took off, and why those brands typically only have annual sales (if anything) instead of quarterly sales.

Tricker's on sale (at trickersoutlet) are some of the best deals you can get.

>>17402869
Based shoepassion appreciator

>>17403296
2-2.5k all included

How much space should you have in front of your toes while wearing boots?

>>17403688
where is your heel, where is the ball of your foot?
is it secure around your ankle?

boots are not sneakers. toe room is good.

>>17403688
it doesnt matter because the ball of your foot should fall in the low spot of the footbed. once that happens the length to the front is correct and you foot wont slide forward and damage your toes
ideally this is on a leather footbed because its gad to feel the low spit in anything cushioned

>>17403688

>>17403701
lmao

>>17403698
The ball of my foot seems to be at the widest part of the shoe. But my toes touch the front. I can walk in them but probably would be uncomfortable if I had to run in them.

>>17403701
This is ideal.

Copper knot?
£105 RRP but found these brand new for £40 at a local store.

https://magnumboots.co.uk/products/classic?variant=33389011828780

>>17403729
buy paramemes already, idiot

>>17403582
I bought Timbs. Will look into getting something nicer next year.

>>17402859
>28oz pure wool
Damm, son

Is there any website that compares the toe boxes of various heritage boots? Would like to see the difference between White's, Viberg, Red Wings etc etc.

>>17403688
This is what Gaziano & Girling, one of the top shoemakers in the world, considers "ideal length".

>>17403688
>>17403970
This is what G&G considered "too short"
They remade the shoes

>>17403970
>>17403971
It’s the old Edwardian style. Pointy feet appeared high class in medieval Europe. As a benefit, you can crouch without your toes getting crushed. Rspj2

>>17403072
Aren't lofgren supposed to be more narrow?

>>17404018
actual width in the ball of the foot is ok but its narrow in the wrong places

>>17404143
Where? I have narrow feet and thin ankles.

Damn Trickers shipped quick. Ordered on a Monday from the UK. Arrived in TX this morning.

Question: where do you guys buy good looking sneakers in the EU?

I know Goral exists in the UK and they make quality stuff with high end materials and leathers, but I do not want to pay customs. I refuse to engage with customs.
So what option do I have?

I get Velasca ads on Instagram. They look ok but the quality seems questionable.

>>17404281
Trickers has a unique aesthetic with the sparse eyelets and thick natty welts.

They look comfy

>>17404279
specifically the throat where the upper meets the shaft. i experienced the same thing this youtuber did

pretty much
>super tight throat
>plus no pull tab
= terrible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q6MtmHl1Xg&t=661s

>>17404281
You just have to hope they fit now

>>17404293
I wasn’t sure about the aesthetic but the axton boot in the same leather was out of stock in my size. The padding isn’t obnoxious like I though it would and it is more comfortable than my Stows.

>>17404305
Same last as my Stow. It’s basically a shorter Stow with less eyelets and a bit of padding in the color.

>>17404311
Suede Indy remains a grail boot for me

One day maybe, someone will decide to stock them in EU

>>17403971
Wtf this one looks perfect. If this is too short, all my shoes are too short for me :(

Grant Stone sent me a completely new pair of Diesels after my issue with the first pair. Still not the biggest fan of chink boots but I do like the ostrich.

I’m also having issues with a pair of Viberg 2030s. Hopefully their CS lives up to expectations because I’m already on the fence about selling both pair I have.

>>17404317
what was the issue with GS and whats the issue with the vibergs?

>>17404316
That would probably be perfect for a rounded last.
Pointy lasts always have more room in the toes because they need to taper to a point without looking dumb.

>>17404281
What size? How do they fit?

>>17404319
The footbed on the left boot of the original pair I ordered basically sunk into nothing. I emailed them and they were super helpful and replaced them completely.

My 2030 Vibergs also have an issue with the left boot where it feels like I’m standing on the welt around the instep/waist. The right boot doesn’t have this issue. Either way both of my Vibergs are some of the least comfortable boots in my collection (stitchdown is dogshit compared to gyw) so I might just sell them and put that money towards other boots.

where do I even buy tan suede chelseas? I thought they will be everywhere but they are not, everything is too brown and dark, I want them to be more sand like

>>17404325
UK 12. I’m normally a UK 11.5 but Trickers doesn’t have half sizes.

>>17404329
>basically sunk into nothing
ah yes the average c*rk experience

>>17404329
Every single pair of 2030 vibergs I have seen, the waist is too narrow and the foot goes over the welt.
Doesn't matter if your foot is wide or narrow, it seems to happen to everyone.

Just a very bad last I suspect. And yes it happens to me too, but it doesn't feel uncomfortable because they are on thick CXL and it seems to hold my foot fine.

I wouldn't buy 2030 lasted Vibergs again.

>>17404331
You want lighter than snuff suede?
For some brands snuff/polo is as light as they will go.

Carmina used to stock a lighter "brass suede" (or maybe gold) but no more.

>>17404331
wait til summer

>>17404331
I think #5 (Brass) can look very good for both a chelsea and a split toe derby with black flat laces.

>>17404342
something like picrel, it's not even that light but it has no bright yellow/orange tones in it and that's what I am looking for

>>17404344
oh ok maybe that's the best idea

>>17403970
>>17403971
Should you have this much space for loafers as well? I’ve heard loafers are supposed to fit closer to the foot because they don’t have laces.

>>17404342
It seems like all the Viberg lasts are trash. The width of the 1035 is nice but the toebox height feels lower than the 2030. I think the 2030 would be fine if it was gyw with a sole thats the same size as the last so it doesn’t spill past the welt. It’s a shame because Vibergs leather choices and quality are decent. They’re just overpriced with shit lasts.

>>17404349
This is a picture of Carmina's snuff suede.
Although in their own photos it looks much more orange.

It's possible the suede color changes a bit with every batch they get from CF Stead too. It's a near certainty in fact.

>>17404349
have you looked at natural cxl roughout?

>>17404366
are those suede colors standardized?

Do you guys ever suffer through boots that are too small? Or do you just try to sell them?

>>17404370
Most people suffer through footwear that is too small without even realizing their footwear is too small. Don’t be a retard. Sell them and buy the correct size.

>>17404329
viberg lasts are absolutely dogshit, idk how people got memed into thinking its a good brand. I like their leather variety and the build quality is great but the last ruins it, GMTO C&J makes way more sense for a similar price.

>>17404369
Only when they come from the same tannery
CXL is from Horween
Most high end brands use suede from CF Stead

>>17404311
Thats good. I would be shitting bricks ordering shoes intercontinentally.

My docs 101 will soon turn 5 years old (bought them around 2018) and are still in decent condition. They have a bit of wrinkles, because I probably wasn't using maintenance products regularly enough, and I was keeping them close to radiators.
Besides that they have a small crack at the sole in one specific place, but it's small enough for me to super glue it.
I've wore them every day with no rotating footwear. I've wore them to the mountains, to the sea trip, forests, mud, snow, shallow streams etc.

>>17402869
untuck those fucking jeans you mongrel

>>17404400
>paid more in resoling than the boots

My docs 101 will soon turn 5 years old soon (bought them around 2018) and are still in decent condition. They have a bit of wrinkles, because I probably wasn't using maintenance products regularly enough, and I was keeping them close to radiators.
Besides that they have a small crack at the sole in one specific place, but it's small enough for me to super glue it.
I've wore them every day with no rotating footwear. I've wore them to the mountains, to the sea trip, forests, mud, snow, shallow streams etc.

>>17404408
The crack.

>>17404331
>tan suede chelseas?
didnt grantstone put thiers on final sale?

>>17404418
bruh

>>17404423
What's that?
Oh also they have a small hole in one place in the leather, as a branch punctured it while I was in a forest just recently.
Generally though they are tough boots despite what people say. 5 years of everyday wear is a lot. I'll be looking to buy new boots soon and keeping my docs for hauling stuff, or forest trips.

>>17404408
it is good to have a pair of comfy boots that you don't feel bad about taking anywhere and everywhere

>>17404431
collapsed heel counter

>>17404419
I checked them and they look good except the multi colored sole and heel

>>17404329
You bought them from blue owl on the black friday sale, didn't you? I bought a pair too in suede and I really like them, the 2030 last works for me and I have no issues with them, only thing is that the photos on the website were very misleading and the color is way different irl

>>17404370
Buy high sell low

>>17404482
Yup I got both pairs I own on sale so fortunately I won’t have to >>17404487

I’m still curious about the 2040 last but I’m done with stitchdown boots from Viberg.

i don't understand the tubes of conditioner/polish mixes you can find in any supermarket, you can't condition too much or the shoes become a sticky mess and you have to remove the wax build up after some uses (or am i doing something wrong?)
kiwi really is the king of budget conditioners

>>17404547
it means you're overconditioning too often

>>17404302
They might be good for me, my White's are fine on top of my feet but the facings almost touch on the top few eyelets because I have such skinny ankles.

>>17404329
Must be shitty leaduh insole used.

>>17404588
People get caught up on an insole being full grain without realizing that full grain from some mystery tannery may not be as good as a higher quality split like from Alden.

>>17404558
makes no sense, i hadn't conditioned them in a whole year, and with the kiwi (that i can't find anymore) it never happened, there was never any build up

>>17404615
personally i just want it thick

>>17404641
It could be that they are just sticky when you first applied it, it could be fine in a couple days.

>>17404615
Practically, all of them are mysterious.

Name one shoemaker that disclose which tannery they got their insole from.

>>17403701
anon is making up shit again

>>17403701

>>17404740
>>17404751
Yes

what do you guys think of workboots like red wing tradesman for everyday wear? i think they look kinda cool but is it too excessive?

>>17404865
too autistic

>>17404867
okay valid criticism, but let me ask you, do you like chelsea boots? if you do we clearly like different things and i can disregard.

>>17404871
and is this chelsea in the room with us right now?

just kidding i'm more of an engineer man

>>17404874
see to me the engineer boots are even more autistic (even though i do think they're cool) idk if it's just preference or what. I would like to hear the opinion of many anons.

>>17404876
whats autistic about them? with the proper length pant covering the strap it's a plain simple sleek one piece leather boot

>>17404878
well in my opinion i would wanna wear them so that you could see the whole boot and the engineer look, otherwise i think the strap looks very feminine like a woman boot if the rest is covered. maybe i am just autistic though, i think many would disagree with me.

>>17404887
>i would wanna wear them so that you could see the whole boot
you're one of these sex perverts aren't you

>>17404891
haha naw fren i just think of boots as a military fashion type of thing is all. i am very wholesome and do not like porn.

>>17402869
>>17403584
what boots are these?

>>17404892
So you're just retarded?

>>17404907
well yeah, but so is everybody else on here so it's okay. 75% of the anons on this board dress like men who want to be women.

>>17404370
>do you ever just fuck your feet up for fashion?

>>17404785
uncut dick energy

>Wolverine Thousand Miles I thrifted last week cleaned up to look better than any dress shoe I own
bros

>>17404892
terrorcore has ruined a whole generation

>>17401004
Booga booga

>>17404918
Unironically.

>>17404909
Well I'm not retarded so I feel comfortable and confident telling you that you're opinions are trash and you need to go fuck yourself

>>17404919
Do you really brag about having your genitals mutilated by your parents as a baby?

>>17404941
are you implying that uncut energy is bad?

boooots

>>17404941
you insecure nigga, and you lack reading comprehension

>>17404958
you ain't black and your boot choice sucks

are monk chukkas the most conservative boot on the market?

SHOULD BOOTS FIT ANY DIFFERENT THAN SNEAKERS?

>>17405024
how do sneakers fit?

>>17404358
>this much space for loafers as well?
Of course not.
Loafers have absolutely different toe shape.

>>17404408
>>17404418

>>17404423 - The biggest bleb marker one can find on a shoe.

>>17405061
How should loafers fit?

>>17405108
Like any other shoe: so that they don't float around your foot.
For my foot it is not even possible, so I do not wear loafers at all.

>>17405154
Why isn’t it possible for you?

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>>17404405
don't untuck those jeans you king

>>17405158
I got no tarsoptosia but an almost flat instep.
So only laced shoes sit tightly enough.

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>>17402223
Themoplastic celastic is what mass production allows.
Traditionally, and still on costlier bespoke footwear today, toe caps and heel counters were made out of stiffened leather, not this plastic crap which decays over time and crumbles due to reaction to sweat.
I think Vass are the only "mass produced" non bespoke shoe brand that doesn't use celastic and uses leather, which as one of you mentioned stretches. Celastic doesn't stretch, it cracks. I don't know the state of Vass today, but at least a couple of yearsago when I went there it was still proper stiffened leather.

>>17405300
for me its leather heel and celastic toe

A suede indy is one of my grail boots.
I live in Europe.

I found a European store that stocks pic related.
It has a commando sole (I do not buy or accept dainite) - so that's good.
They have only two boots left, one of the two is exactly my correct size.
I would maybe change to black laces, that's not an issue.

The issue is, the store is Bri'ish.
They say that EU shipping is exactly the same as before Brexit, they call it "seamless". I do not buy that.

>>17404903
Shoepassion. Made in spain, tolerable quality for the price, nothing exceptional but they look good

cowboy boot recommendations??

>>17405364
I bought from 3 different britisher stores this year (C&J, Tricker's, countryattire) and the purchases all went fine.

>>17405300
This cheap crap, all these alternatives have been nothing but destructive for mankind and nature as a whole. We must return to tradition, or face our own self-induced destruction.
>>17405312
Leather/leather or canvas.

So there's a store in Germany that sells Whites

But the prices are... well see for yourself.

>>17405556
no wonder europoors always sour grapes about White's

>>17405556
iamgine spending any amount of money for bdsm clown boots

>>17405556
Sounds about right, this is VAT included.

>>17405364
Have you looked at Frans Boone? I think they’re filthy dutch but they sell Alden and even ship to the US for cheap (or used to).

>>17405587
>Frans Boone
I checked, they have a huge selection of Alden shoes and are probably the best way to buy them in the EU
But the only Indy they have is a brown grain one and this

Not bad for a "budget" boot made in China.

>>17405608
eee grant stone captoe

>>17405612
>>17405608
oh wait it's in the filename

>>17405616
It's straight
Which is more than can be said of many brands selling for twice as much and made in Norfampton or the Pacific Northwest sometimes

My quest for an Alden Indy has led me to this French shop that apparently has an exclusive, handgrade Crockett & Jones model that is a Galway clone.

>>17405624
>1000 EU rupees

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>>17405629
It is a lot to pay for non-cordovan boots but C&J handgrade is expensive anyway I think, maybe not as much but like 800€?

the iron rangers good for everyday outfit wear from red wing? was thinking about picking up a pair of the copper ones. i don't normally wear boots so i feel a little out of my element as to what's fashionable or too work-oriented, etc.

>>17405643
buy grant stone diesels

>>17405653
could you elaborate? i am looking at them right now and like the look of the red wings better, but i'm open to your opinion.

>>17405300
The only celastic I have ever seen cracked is a Meermin. But they feel more thermoplastic than celastic.
It is quite rare to see celastic cracking.
Leather stiffeners don’t stretch. The word “stiff” should imply so.

I found it.

Suede Indy with commando sole
In my size
Ships from Germany

Now the question is, do I really want it?

>>17405674
>850€
Lamo not worth it

>>17405676
That's the thing, I know this thing isn't worth anywhere near as much
But the style is unique and I really like it

>>17405659
the IRs work better for a casual fit but the diesel has a larger operating window
you can stick diesels under pants and do business casual or under jeans bu the IRs can never go in an office

>>17405680
A lot of people never go to an office, urbanite.

>>17405685
you gonna go to dinner in iron rangers you hick? not even to an olive garden

>>17405680
okay thanks, i will take this into consideration fren. I think you are right about the slimmer profile, but I also think it might be slightly overblown how bulbous the IR's are. looking at photos of people wearing them it looks pretty natural/casual. i would deff wear them out to dinner or whatever I'm not sure I see the problem.

are these Danners legit

price is $130

>>17405687
>you gonna go to dinner in iron rangers you rural bvll?
Yes.

How to fix scuffs

>>17405696
black shoe cream should cover these up in no time
brushie before and after

>>17405696
looks sus
is that fake leather?

>>17405713
https://myrqvist.com/collections/boots/products/granhult-dark-brown?variant=39767143874604
its these but i guess they dont sell black ones anymore
>>17405704
thanks

>>17405679
>>17405679
If its your grail boot and you think you won't regret it, go for it. My galways arent worth 1200€ either but its only been a few days and i absolutely love them. Wearing them right now while phoneposting.

>>17405693
they're legit alright, legit ugly

>>17405729

they really do be scraping the bottom of the barrel for materials huh

>>17405733
>do be
please fuck off back to subleldit

>>17405674
Get it. And extra ~200 eurobucks isn’t that bad of a mark up considering the life of the boot and the plenty re-soles you get out of Aldens. Plus suede is stupid easy to care for.

>>17405777
> extra ~200 eurobucks
horrible fucking advice.

>>17405724
What size are you wearing? How do they feel?

>>17405790
UK10 standard E width. They are the best boots out of the box so far, took them on a 30km on the second day without any problems.
72 last looks and fits similar to C&J 325.

>>17405853
>took them on a 30km
walk

>>17405696
Coloured cream
Brush

>>17405733
frfr
Thursday womens line doesnt seem to have many qc issues but endless quality issues

>>17405853
Beautiful anon. Enjoy.

>>17405772
fr fr no cap bruh

>everyone here wearing their 6 inch boots when it snowed 10 inches
>mfw 11 inch engineer boots

>>17405927
I can only dream about 10 inches

>>17402723
Are those US boots?
https://www.militarybootsdirect.com/army-boots.html
Maybe you'll find it here I didn't do a thorough check

>me wearing 6in boots when it rained 2mm

>me wearing 4 inch chukka boots and it doesn’t even rain

>>17405927
I just wear gaiters.

>>17401004
what are those boots picrel?

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>>17405500
Rios of Mercedes or Chisos.
R Watson if you can't afford more.
Justins are an acceptable work boot.

Ariat, Tony Llamas, and Luccheses are all varying degrees of chink, shit, or overpriced.

does your boots come with built in drainage holes?

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>>17406116
There’s already a thread thoughever >>17402700

>>17406119
>mom said you have to use my thread!

>>17406119
lol