/fa/ - Fashion

>loden suede
>natty welt
>contrast stitching
>brass eyelets
simple as

>>17392363
not bad

Boot dryers yay or nay? Only when they get wet or after every day of wear?

>>17392395
Never. Ever. For any reason.

>>17391703
Pleather is never a good look for anyone.

>>17392395
honestly never had drying problems with a full leather boot. every boot i had issues with were always goretex or equivalent

Would Thorogood work boots be any good? I need a safety toe

>>17392412
this anon is full of shit. peet dryer after every wear

How much space should be between the top of the boot and you? I kinda think these boots are too big, but they feel wide enough.

>>17392461
Eh. Fuck it. They're going back. My instep rubs against the top now that I tried going up and down stairs, it's gonna get fucking raw and I get two fingers between my leg and the top while struggling to get my foot out. Shitty fucking boots, but I guess that's what you get with Chink Stone

>>17392456
This anon is fucking stupid. Never use heat to dry your boots, it will damage the leather. If they're really soaked pack paper into them and change out as it gets soaked then air dry, if you're wearing them normally they shouldn't be that wet and sitting in my a warm house or putting in some shoe trees is plenty of drying.

>>17392357
That's a huge welt offset. Why do they double the stitching? I'd fall on my face the first time I tried to use a staircase.

What do you guys think of obenaufs leather cleaner?
Anyone use it?
Do you prefer lexol?

>>17392549
u wot are you really so uncoordinated

>>17392564
I would be wearing snowshoes indoors.

>>17392357
Sorry it's official
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7gK8eQgEtI
The iron ranger is the best cap toe in the world beating out white's, nicks, franks and jks
the biggest authority in bootdom said so himself

>>17392593
>350
lmao where is he getting those prices?

I just got a 1000 mile wolverine for 100 bucks with what I think is a slip-resistant white sole. The leather condition seems fine. Was this a good idea?

>>17392531
>blog post
boot dryer = same temp as your body dumb ass. does wearing your boots damage them from heat? you have no idea wtf you are talking about

>>17392624
isn't it just an air dryer? nothing wrong with that

>>17392619
Looking closely at the details, these were apparently re-soled with Crepe soles. idk much about Crepe, I have some 875's with them and they're ok I guess.

>>17392630
>It uses convection technology to push slightly warmed air through
basically yeah

>>17392620
Does the moisture from your feet somehow dry things out? Or are you just dumb as fuck? I'm betting that you're just dumb as fuck.

>>17392658
>moisture from your feet somehow dry things out
listen faggot, you are making no sense again.

>>17392669
its non whites trying to shit up the thread again with nonsense

>>17392669
my question is: how effective are these compared to ceder shoe trees that absorb the moisture?

>>17392686
more effective. the cedar would draw the moisture but it stays in the wood

>>17392688
Isn't there a process you do with cedar trees to dry them out once you take them out of the shoe? I keep mine near an air conditioning vent, and they seem dry every time I use them.

>>17392593
Good timing, got them yesterday. I sort of hate them, the last just doesn’t fit my foot well, but I guess I’ll find out after break in. Also mismatched because one of them was on display. Fucking red wing.

>>17392448
Yes. Thorogoods are great, as any union man.

>>17392686
>>17392531
You're forgetting how cozy it is to put on warm toasted boots right before you leave the house on a cold morning.

>>17392619
>>17392632
>crepe sole on work boots
what the fuck why
crepe is fine for lounge shoes like chukkas but just why

anyway, wear the crepe until chunks start falling out of it then resole with some vibram or dainite and you're fine.
Wolverine 1ks used to be a better boot but they're still not terrible. For 100 bucks you made a fine purchase.

honk honk

>>17392725
Nice carpet

>>17392721
Thank you anon. Yeah idk either, but every 1000 mile I could find used was really being sold because the leather sole was falling off and the wear had hit the undersole stitching. I suspect this one was resoled and worn/sold for the same reason.
I'll wear it until it falls apart.

>>17392719
shit I should buy some, then.

>>17392725
wtf I have the same rug

honk honk

>>17392669
You're the one who said wearing boots is the same as using a boot drier, since you're too stupid to make the connection I'll explain it to you. Even if the hot air is the same temperature as your feet it's going to dry the leather, your sweating feet with socks between does not have the same affect as blowing hot air. Sorry you're so fucking dumb buddy, boot driers will dry the oils in the leather and make it brittle and prone to cracking.

What does the daily brushing do? Is it just to get dirt off? Should I skip if I didn’t get them dirty at all?

>>17392363
Excellent taste

>>17392788
>gets the dirt off
>keeps your boot shined and looking tip top

>>17392448
Yea but get the regular not the waterproof, I believe the water proof one is called the 1957

>>17392593
>>17392706
My 8 year old 8111s, about to be benched for White's Perry boots.

>>17392798
amber harness bros

>>17392788
if you work in an office, you really only need to do spot brushing if you kick your desk or something.
otherwise it's just the annual conditioning pass

>>17392780
fuck off cheap boot wearing faggot

>>17392799
Sometimes I wish I had gotten the mule skin ones but I love the way the amber darkened up over the years.

>>17392798
nice. on original sole?

>>17392745
shoes for manlets

>>17392745
you paid for these?

>>17392745
cuff your pants, loser

>>17392808
i got my pair resoled to the beckman sole after about a year

>>17392807
I'm wearing my White's right now dumb dumb.

>>17392792
>>17392800
Gotcha, didn’t realize it had a polishing effect too, I’m pretty stupid

>>17392826
no pics?
either assume the position or post your carpet, homo

>>17392826
congrats? i just took my vibergs off my boot dryer?

>>17392812
Barely, they are overdue. Heel is fucked too.

>>17392832
Do you do them overnight or just in the evening?

>>17392840
>shoes for furries

>>17392840
That tag is just awful. What an insult to the client.

>>17392837
4-6 hours in the evening. ive left boots on overnight, no issues.

>>17392840
RIP Chewbacca

>>17392840
i think i saw this breed in a petstore once

>>17392832
Lol, it's cute how you try to move the goalposts and change the subject every time I show what a stupid asshole you are.

>>17392904
post boots or stfu faggot.

>>17392826
>>17392904
whitesfag beat the fuck down, again

>>17392917
oof those stripes on the cap toes

>>17392942
i swear to god some of you dont like leather

>>17392942
>stripes

>>17392944
not stripist, just don't like em

>>17392917
>I'm too stupid to actually back my point up so I'm going to whine about other stuff!

>>17393036
nice rolled welts

>>17392597
350 is the list price, but yeah you end up spending more with tax. 380 for mine I just bought.

>>17393120
Speaking of which, the red wing guy said I should try breaking them in with mink oil. Good idea or no?

>>17389714
This post made my day. Thank you.

>>17393122
it will darken the leather at the spot you're applying it. Just wear thick wool socks and take them out for a walk a few hours for a week or two.

>>17393144
Another anon on the previous thread said mink oil darkens the boots a ton, but I've read elsewhete that it only darkens the leather slightly, which is it?

>>17393150
in my experience mink oil darkens it very slightly.
apply a little dot of it in a piece of the tongue that's hidden to see for yourself, it's the only wall you'll be able to make a good decision.
However I don't think it's necessary to break the boots in, and too much oil is not necessarily good for the leather. Just wear it in small intervals. If you are home put two pairs of socks on top of eachother and wear the boots for 30~90 minutes at a time, go for small walks.
What can help and will not alter the outside leather is rubbing in some hand or facial moisturizer in the inside of your boot in specific areas that are a bit tough. It's the same idea as the mink oil but it won't change the looks of your boot at all.
IIRC I even heard of applying mink oil to the inside of the boot to break it in but imagine the fucking mess.

Is it acceptable heel height for men boots?

>>17393256
there is nothing acceptable in that boot at all

>>17393261
What is wrong with it?
I rly like how it looks

>>17393256
if you're tiny and an absolute fruit it would work

A couple of days ago I mentioned that someone was selling a pair of Thursday sneakers high top almost brand new for about half the price, which had caught my eye due to Rose Anvil's video. I pulled the trigger and they arrived today. Here are my first impressions if someone is interested.
The seller said they had worn them for a short stroll and I guess they weren't lying. They came with perfect outsoles, no creasing nor scruffs, so it's like I bought them brand new, or as close as possible to that.
Out of the box these blow any other leather sneaker I've seen, tried or owned. The leather is thick and rough but nice to the touch. There's no loose threads nor gaps anywhere, the construction looks to me as solid as it can be.
Regarding sizing, I got a 10US/43EU. My feet are 275mm long and I normally wear a size 10US in sneakers and 9.5 on dress shoes. For the record, I own a pair of Red Wing Beckmans in 9D. The counter adjusts perfectly to my calf, the widest par of the shoe and the toe box is roomy, even considering that my feet are a bit wide for my usual size, I still normally wear a D width, but I have trouble getting my proper size in shoes that have a slender design. What I mean is that these sneakers are a bit wider than expected, which is the opposite of a problem for me specifically.
They came with two pairs of shoelaces, one cotton pair which is nothing special, and a leather pair. The leather shoelaces are a bit thinner than expected, which makes me question how much traction they can hold, since the shoes are fairly rigid and I really have to pull to close them properly.
Which leads me to question which market Thursday wanted to tackle with this shoe. They're too rigid out of the box and not confortable from the got go as any other sneaker -and mall-tier boots-, but they're to light and fall short when compared to proper boots. They're somewhere in between so as to not appeal to sneakerheads nor boot enthusiasts.
1/2

>>17393334
2/2
But I'm happy with them because they will fill the spot I wanted them to. I will wear them regularly as a casual shoe when I don't want to wear sneakers not real boots. I really like how they look and they're roomy enoguh so I can put a more cushioned insole if I want to.
Overall I like them and am happy with my purchase, but I don't know if there's really a market for something like this.

>>17393334
Please get better trousers

>>17393256
Only if you are an androgynous rock star or Lil nas X.
Or E-boy aesthetic.

>>17393346
he is wearing thursday high top sneakers, perfectly fitting.

>>17393346
Those are some cheap everyday Wranglers. I wear them for doing chores and stuff.

64 or 202 lasted galways?

>>17393373
64 looks better in this pic

>>17393374
only other comparison i found
72, 64, 202, 82

>>17393375
64 looks like a proper field/country boot silhouette. 202 looks dressier, if that makes sense? what leather are you going with?

>>17393379
the same as 64 in this pic >>17393375
64 and 202 i can buy easily. Some american shop sells a rosewood cc galway in 303 (a bit less pointy 202), i still have to email EG if i could buy one directly from them without the MTO upcharge.

>>17393369
As long as you don’t wear them in public

kinda like them but the sole is very thick like goth fashion...considering return

>>17393413
wrong pic

>>17393375
72 looks round without looking as clumsy as the 64

>>17393416
even your cat doeant want to look at it

Looking for a pair of dress boots that I can wear to the office. Would prefer they add a little extra height to me. Also in a brown color. Budget $300.
Mainly want to wear them during the winter when I wear my overcoat as I'm 5'9 160 lbs and think adding a little height to me would make the coat look better on my silhouette. Also would wear them at the office when I feel I need extra height (major presentation/salary discussion/cute secretary is maining the front door that day).

>>17393432
Thursday if you're insistent on the manlet heel but dont mind the nonexistent QC

>>17393432
$200-250 good brands:
Orban's, Loding, Berwick, Herring shoes

>>17393443
I actually have a pair of Thursday chukka's, I wouldn't say there's enough of a "manlet heel" on those. I do have a wide foot which made them appealing. The chukka's are so-so, good to have in the rotation to let the others rest but its certainly not my "go-to" for when I need to wear something like that.

fuck me, i finally pulled the trigger on my grail boots. Blogposts in 1-2 days when they are delivered. Thanks for encouraging me, faggots.

>>17393122
If you want them darker yeah mink oil is great. I used red wing boot oil on my 8111s and they darkened a bit but not as much as I've seen from mink oil conditioned pairs.

>>17393472
do we even want to know the pricetag?

>>17393527
No and i rather not remind myself of it.
1200EUR with EG shoe trees included (after VAT ). Its a good price, actually, but its still a bit hard to think about.

Do you guys own any other "made to last" clothes besides boots and shoes?
What about socks, gloves, umbrellas?
Trousers that don't fade and look old in one season?

>>17392917
What causes a captoe to turn zebra?
Never seen that before

>>17393373
Right looks better, left is a little weird
Which one is which

>>17393570
I take it back now I've seen >>17393375
72 looks good, reminds me of Bonafe 363mod

>>17393571
Yea i looked more into 72 and decided to go for it. Seemed like the best inbetween.

>>17393536
eh who cares if they're good quality and you like them and you take care of them they should last basically forever

>>17393536
Which store has them in EU?

>>17393565
Yeah I have a handmade leather jacket

>>17393536
I went on EG site and they came out to be almost 1600€ for the boots + trees.
That would make them the second most expensive pair of boots I have, and these aren't even shell.

Too much

>>17393596
I bought them on careofcarl, meetthehand also has some stock.

can anyone reccomend me any boots, im outdoors all day so a nice brand that can stand upto a bit of a beating and any tips on soles ect im clueless about boots but really would like a good pair

Hey guys, need help. Thinking about getting pic related but they are pretty expensive and im not sure about their quality since alot of people shit on doc martens in the past few years. Ive been looking everywhere for an alternative pair to these "not very formal" derbies or oxfords but no luck, the market is extremely limited here. Any suggestion, thoughts, should i get them, are they worth the money?

>>17393644
Interesting sites, do they ship from EU (i.e. no customs)?

>>17392799
>>17392808
getting new ones, amber harness or copper?

>>17393644
I don’t know the other place, but careofcarl does.
I’ve bought from there a few times and had no complaints.

>>17393659
careofcarl ships from sweden, meetthehand from netherlands.

>>17393664
>careofcarl
damn, might have to treat myself to these

>>17393675

>>17392842
I just cut mine off
Simple as

>>17393657

>>17393644
The Hand has a nice selection but these makers are too expensive for me
1500€ for an unlined suede Dover?
It's just a split toe derby, not even a boot.

>>17393565
got a bunch of filson jackets before they moved to bangladesh

>>17393565
I guess my Mackage jacket is of pretty good quality, i have 2 pairs of momotaro jeans and a bunch of darn tough socks.

>>17393416
I like it, but I have a soft spot for tacky goth crap.

>>17393661
i prefer the amber

copper is nubuck no?

>>17393694
>I just welted the boot myself. Simple as.
Fuck me harder, please.

any recommendations for modern alpine-style boots? price not an issue

>>17393695
t-thanks bro

>>17393767
Jesus if you're that poor you could get the goodyear welted derbies

>>17393657
I do not like the style of these but there is another brand that makes chunky shoes that I do not like and it is called "Loake"

>>17393695
Lol fuck those are ugly. What were they thinking?

>>17393790
200+ euros for a pair of boots is pretty steep for balkan standards altho id cash out if i knew for sure that the quality is good, thats my biggest concern

>>17393565
I have a leather coat from high school and since I’ve lost weight pretty much all my old clothes from high school fit now. I only buy shit that’s made to last, except t-shirts and basketball shorts which I wear to the gym since I’m a 30-something boomer.

>>17393833
Whites are THE ultimate in quality

>>17393848
Better than Viberg?

>>17393833
You cannot get stuff made in the Pacific Northwest in the Balkans anon that's literally halfway across the world, you're paying for stuff that's made by Seattle and Victoria BC cushy salaries and people living life on easy mode.

Septieme Largeur, Shoepassion, Yanko etc are in the like 250€ range.
Meermin too and you get a lot of shoe for the price but they are notoriously stiff and hard to break in

>>17393862
that anon is a whites shill, you wont get an honest answer from him.

>>17393863
yes im aware, the doc martens i asked about are 200+ euros, i should have clarified

viberg

>>17393833
You missed out on good boots from /k/anon, they were selling waxi boots for relatively cheap and they were handmade (in Africa, granted). I paid the equivalent of 190 euros for them and they are quite comfortable if you don’t mind the whole Rhodesiaboo thing, but nobody knows what that really is outside of certain internet groups.

See if the factory is still selling, I forget the name but they are in South Africa.

whites

nicks

>>17393565
I have a suit jacket from 1909 it’s just labeled Harvard, I believe they used it in their orchestra.

>>17393862
I mean look at the leather on that toe cap
>>17392917
I don't know what's happening there but it shouldn't be striped

>>17393862
as an owner of both white's and vibergs
>vibergs more refined (higher spi, smaller gauge threads, smaller shelf) but less secure of a fit in the ankle, my pair of natty roughout (middle in pic) is unlined in the shaft
>the viberg 2030 is narrow as fuck and less comfortable than the 55 last on the whites
>where i live the vibergs off the shelf is almost 300 bucks more expensive than the custom whites
so no vibergs are overpriced

>>17393899
>muh vibergs are over priced, but not my whites
nigga both of the boots are ridiculously over priced. you whites shills are unrelenting

Christ gives his funniest battles to his funniest clowns.

>>17393899
you really comparing comfort between a high arch tranny heel 55 last and a standard 2030 last?

>>17393913
>hurr durr don't compare PNW work boots

>>17393862
If you're in Europe Viberg is your only choice anyway, that German store stocks them around the 850€ mark but has 25% off sales virtually every other week and that gets them down to about 650-700€ which is still a lot of money for the quality you receive compared to European brands, but at least it has that American service boot styling, thick leather, stitchdown welt etc.

Carmina RTW boots are under 500€ and in my opinion a better and higher quality construction than Vibergs.
Vibergs at 700€ is actually similar price to Enzo Bonafe MTOs and there's just no comparison in quality there in my opinion.
You're paying for the styling, that's all.

>>17393910
>horsebutt
Are you the anon from earlier? The horsebutt will treat you better than the viking green

>>17393919
sir, this is a viberg workboot, you are comparing a white workboot to a lifestyle viberg boot. take not of the tranny herl

>>17393925
note* tranny heel*

>>17393920
I’m not in Europe, though. My issue is my obscenely wide feet. I’ve actually participated in research studies over at the medical school and my feet are in the top 1% of width across the population compared to length. Viberg caters to width better than most.

>>17393927
>Viberg caters to width better than most

Rate my shoes. It’s leather and always warm.

>>17393928
My custom boot width is FF, Viberg took my measurements and gave me a choice of three boots that would be the most likely to fit and said just return them no questions asked if it doesn’t work out and all their boots are E by default. Name someone better. I don’t mind spending up to 1K on a pair of boots.

>>17393920
>carmina
>better and higher quality construction than Vibergs

>>17393934
https://bakershoe.com/products/bakers-custom-bounty-hunter-by-whites-boots

>all their boots are E by default
E in name only. look at the pic the captoe is 55 last E width size 9. compare that to a size 10 viberg on the 2030

>>17393950
boondockers? can we see a side profile
shot?

>>17393935
I own both and it's true
You don't even get a fully lined boot with Vibergs.
And yeah Carmina uses celastic heel stiffener but that's never been a problem for me.

Basically they are not that far apart from each other, except one is a lot more expensive.

boats

>>17393950
They said it would take eight months to get my boots, I need something to wear now. Plus, I need an accurate color of their leather which they do not provide.

>>17393950
>>17393965
Also, I sent in my measurements and they said my length is something I haven’t worn since fifth grade. My cowboy boot guy said I’m a 10 F with a high instep last. Bakers doesn’t give a shit about arches.

>>17393975
>they said my length is something I haven’t worn since fifth grade
The sizing for these PNW and similar boots are different, you can expect to go down a full size.

>>17393975
does viberg offer an F width? not familiar with them so sorry if this is a stupid ?

>>17393975
Lol
Lmao even

>>17393984
My brannock size is a 11.5E. My exact measurements is a high instep and arch 9.5FF and the only shoes that will fit me appropriately are bespoke as a result. Viberg went back and forth with me about what sizes might fit depending on last and stated returns and exchanges would be no questions asked until I get shoes that fit. Bakers didn’t do that and they didn’t know what last to get for someone with my instep.

The rep for Viberg also spoke with me about a bespoke boot and methods to get shit done when they run a limited edition I want. Bakers didn’t do that. They just made guesses based on traces that were totally wrong and then when I sent my digital measurements to them it was off by 2 sizes and two widths (EE to FF). Viberg made me an offer if one of their limited runs looked good to me (I don’t want a toe cap). Bakers treated me like a nuisance and Viberg treated me like a challenge. That makes a difference. If you think Viberg isn’t worth the price, that’s ok. I’ll pay 900 bucks for some boots based on my conversation with the rep. I can afford it. Bakers treated me like garbage.

>>17393984
>a full size
They wanted me to go down 3 full sizes.

>>17394000
the higher arches shortens the length. sounds crazy but it just works and i know how it sounds especially if you've never worn high arch support boots before

>Bakers treated me like garbage
not saying you're lying but i had the complete opposite experience

>>17394008
There's dozens and dozens of people who love bakers and they constantly get recommended for figuring out sizing, I feel like there's two sides to this story. Also keep in mind that bakers is a reseller for White's while viberg is actually the manufacturer, a reseller is having to buy the boots themselves for a price that makes it work for White's or whoever and they're not gonna have as much flexibility. If it takes too much shipping back and forth and exchanging stuff it gets to the point where they're losing money and they have no guarantee that there will be future orders to make up for it.

>>17394008
They tried to force me to buy fucked up custom orders and would not compare my digital measurements to the lasts they would use. I would bet you five dollars that the reason they have so many weird boots to sell in “that” section is because they got custom boots returned due to their fuck ups. They wanted me to buy 10.5F when Viberg told me if my normal size is 11.5E and 11 or 10.5EE would probably be best but buy what we’ve got and if it doesn’t work we will refund you. Bakers said sales are final. I’m kinda starting to think Whites is clowny based on all this shit I’ve dealt with. I got money, but I want casual boots I can wear with jeans so I don’t stand out and they’re acting high and mighty. I am sorry to admit this, but I got money and I gotta be out in the chemical plant and not stand out. Viberg has helped me the most. Bakers shat on me. Maybe it’s because they’re used to people who are making a severe decision due to the cost, but Viberg said try out these boots and I dropped 900 on them without a care because they said just send them back if they don’t fit right. Bakers said I couldn’t do that and they would charge me for a try on pair because of my weird feet.

Shit is weird.

>>17394028
>They wanted me to buy 10.5F when Viberg told me if my normal size is 11.5E and 11 or 10.5EE
cause you know different brands fit differently? especially with the high arches?

like i said i take a size 10 on my viberg 2030 and a size 9e on the 55 last. both fit me well but i much prefer the 55 last

>>17393848
>>17393872
>>17393881
>>17393883
Spec sperg chokes on a dick and get the fuck >>/out/

>>17394028
As you said baker is a reseller, you probably could have gotten more help with a custom last from White’s themselves.
The try on boot isn’t just a size exchange, the point of a try on boot is so that they can make adjustments to the last and size to fit your foot better after you wear them for 20 minutes around the house, it is actually a completely different boot from the one you will receive after they make adjustments based on how the try on boot fit.

>>17393895
They deliberately clicked the stripy part of the hide to put on the cap toe.
Grainfags love “natural variations”.

>>17393955
Objectively speaking, Carmina construction is not higher and you can get some fully leather lined make ups from Viberg.

You can say you prefer Carmina styling but then again Viberg does not actually make any real comparable dress styles.

>>17394039
They wanted me to buy it since it was obviously a fuck up return from a custom sizing. The dude emailed me and tried hard to get me to buy it.
>>17394042
Probably, yeah, I will accept that. However, Viberg has made it clear if my boots don’t fit right then they will exchange or refund or give me credit toward their offerings next year. Bakers tried to fuck me and was obvious about it. I spent 900 on their horsebutt boots and if they don’t work out then I’ll send them back and use that credit on a preorder.

I think White’s are fine, but they are what mall boots used to be.

>>17394044
horsebutt i.e. thicc big ol booty horse stretch marks and all

>>17394074
>White's are mall boots
Sounds like you're just an idiot and an asshole.

>>17394041
post your doc marten or thursday or whatever so we can laugh at you

>>17394099
Sounds like you can’t afford Viberg or weren’t alive when Docs were alright.

>>17394114
This is true. White’s are what Docs we’re back in the late 90s and very early 2000s.
>>17393910
These are great

>>17394113
>Opposite of PNWestoids shits are Thursday and Docs

Less memetalk, now get >>>/out/, seeing you have 0 original thought in your head. You are not interested in fashion, pack the fuck up.

>>17394124
you dont own any boots do you?

>>17394128
of course he doesn't

>>17394114
Lol, sounds like you're too stupid to actually back up anything you say. I could order some vibergs right now but I just got a new pair of custom White's so I'm having a jacket made instead. Stay mad dipshit

>>17394074
>Why wouldn't a third party shoe store give me the same treatment as dealing directly with the factory? REEEEEEEE

>>17394134
>bro they wanted me to buy a try on option for $40 which would have let Whites customize the last to my foot, Vibergs will let me try on a million different sizes that won’t fit though.

>>17394128
Proudly own Handwelted boots that are not meme clown boots. Now >>>/out/
>but muh post your boots
Your point or obvious lack of it being?

Whitesfags are insufferable teenagers, it turns out.

>>17394143

>>17394142
he is talking about you anon

>>17394142
>muh handwelted work boots
yes, your handwelted tranny boots are meme clown boots. recognizing you have a problem is the first stage of recovery, followed by acceptance clown

>I like vibergs because I felt like they treated me better because they have free size exchanges.
>I don’t like White’s because baker didn’t want to use my digital measurements, they have free size exchanges and they do custom lasts with a $40 try on option where they literally make 2 pairs of boots for me and I get to try them on first and have adjustments made based on how they fit after wearing for 20 minutes.
>Viberg treated me well because I had less options.

>>17394157
You forgot
>If you disagree with me you must be poor, I bought 1 (one) pair of vibergs and now I'm incredibly smart in addition to being incredibly wealthy

i have also literally never heard of bakers charging for the try on boot

surely he has an email showing this right

>>17394132
Then do it.
>>17393910
They’re top tier, aren’t they? Buy a pair.

>>17394157
>>17394158
Is Viberg the new “clowny” brand now that Whites is old hat?

Looking to pick up some black combat boots for a kinda punk look, I found these which are pretty ideal design wise, but they're shein so I know the quality would be dogshit. Can anyone recommend where i could find boots like this but actually made well?

>>17394196

>>17393416
these are tite, what are they? where'd you pick em up?

>>17394053
If you’re buying shell there’s literally no contest. Viberg’s homebrew horsebutt is far inferior. If not, they’re pretty comparable, in quality and price, Carmiba looks better and has better custom options though.

>>17394200
these look great, I can't quite makeout the brand on the side, what are they?

>>17394212
https://emptygarage.jp/SHOP/WHITESSTOCK337.html

W H I T E S

>>17394204
Carmina makes dress boots, Viberg makes causal boots. You shouldn’t wear dress boots when you’re just out and about. Dress for the occasion and know the difference. Don’t overdress.

I feel like uh, whites collabing with some trendy dipshit basedboy youtuber kind of tarnishes the brand a little imo

>>17394213
holy fucking shit these are expensive. I'm sure they're nice as shit and last forever though, but I'm trying to get like a more financially mellow starter pair, in the like 200-300 range?

>>17394221
pfft hahahah

>>17394221
Austria parachuters

>>17394220
Probably explains why anons hate Vibergs all of a sudden. The e-celebs influencing this thread are starting to sway in favor of the advertising.

>>17394228
>hate Vibergs all of a sudden
viberg has always been reddit. White's has always been the working man (4chan)'s boot

>>17394223
between jobs rn while I'm training for a new profession, what are ya gonna do, ya know?

>>17394224
these are great, thank you anon!

are diemme boots good quality? thinking about buying these and maybe switching out the laces

>>17394232
you can either save up for it

or you can spend 300 bucks every two years for bad boots

>>17394243
I mean I have the money now, I'm looking for my first pair of boots, so I'm trying to ease into it. Gonna keep the whites bookmarked if I really take to the first boots I get.

>>17393954
aftermarket heel and sole topies

>>17393954
>>17394257
damn i'm retarded

>>17394231
Then why does Reddit shill White’s and say Viberg is overpriced and too wide? I guess we’ve got footlets here now.

>>17394263
>revisionism

>>17394260
lol no worries. boots look great, thanks for sharing.

>>17394264
>I’m not lying, you are
The post. The game. I’m sorry your feet are small and you’re angry about Vibergs only coming in E.

>>17392593
bewts

>>17393790
that is a sharp looking shoe. But it's whites. Is that a problem if it's just a dress shoe?

>>17394282
>>17392798
>>17392593
I honestly think IRs are sharp looking shoes if treated right.

>>17394191
>I'm having a jacket made
>Then do it
I guess speaking English isn't one of your strengths? It's happening buddy, I already put down most of the cash and I'm going back and forth about measurements and options right now.

Had these acadias for 3 years now and worn less then a dozen times because they look like shit with everything except a rainbow afro
is there any hope for a decent fit or should I sell at a loss (~$75 used!) and try to be less retarded with future purchases

>>17393565
I literally only wear milslurp

>>17394335
fucking lmao we warned you about wearing autistic hikers

>>17394267
>I’m not lying, you are
correct. now post your boots

>>17394344
your turn

>>17394339
based, what's your favorite milsurp joint?

>>17394335
>or should I sell at a loss
Why sell now? Did some of your boots appreciate in value this year? We could talk about tax harvesting; netting your boot losses against your boot gains

>>17394354

>>17394354

>>17394361
>>17394364
newfags >>>/out/

>>17394354
what boots are those anyways

>>17394357
I'm not going to rrat out my guy, but you're welcome to drive around the midwest with me in my 1998 4-speed manual ford ranger
we can sleep under the stars and hit up every veteran-owned slurpstore we find

>>17394370
sounds gay I'm in

>>17394369
trash can 3

>>17394369
genuine lace-to-toe

>>17394358
well ackshually my whites I bought last year cost significantly more now
the danners fucking suck, I’m done trying to wear em. it’s either sell or closet purgatory

>>17394378
Whites confirmed viable investment asset.

>spend most of my money on shoes
>almost nothing on clothes
Why do I do this?

>>17394387
Because you rely on your feet every day and the best investment you can make in yourself and in your quality of life is by purchasing a well-made pair of shoes.

Wait you have how many pairs of boots?

>>17394387
footwear is the foundation. solid foundation is important

>>17394392
Just one that I bought last week. It's the most I've ever spent on a pair of footwear. I'm actually debating if it's too big.

>>17394399
where does the ball of your foot sit?

>>17394400
They're Iron Rangers, they sit right about here on both feet, at the red line.

>>17394403
it's not horrible. maybe a half size too big

>>17394406
Is it worth returning them, seeing if they can size it down one more time?

>>17394407
I've never returned anything with redwings so I dunno.
No local store you can drive to? There's one 20min off my normal work commute which surprised me

>>17394410
I bought them at the local store, so I could go back and see if they have a half size down.
I think I'll do that tomorrow.

I should buy more boots

>>17394387
leather pants and shirt ae expensive an unwelted

>>17394431
Do they even look good? I had always assumed leather anything besides a jacket makes you look BDSM lite

>>17394434
no
but leather

>>17394417
Also, on the note about Iron Rangers, these are some of the only footwear that has spoken to me as a person because they seem to fit, width-wise, my wide feet almost like a glove, naturally. Even though they are labeled as D.
Are all boots like this or just these boots?

>>17394440
certain lasts just fit people fitter

>>17394354
so they're not even your boots huh

>>17394441
That's weird, but I'll try to see if 7.5s fit better.
I think the 8's fit with a footbed, and that may just be what I have to do. wear a footbed in them.

>>17393932
Nice what are they?

Never been into boots what's a good pair that I can beat up while doing mechanic work?

>>17394470
>mechanic
You risk getting oil on them often?

>>17394470
Whites 350 cutter

>>17394344
Here
>>17393910

>right rm williams boot starts squeaking out of nowhere
>not the insole, not the heel, not my socks, not the sole
>send it to the manufacturer
>comes back 2 months later "sorry we couldnt find an issue teehee"
im gonna cut these fuckers open on the bandsaw at work when i go back after christmas, will post results. absolute waste of money

are chukkas still reddit?

>>17394472
I'd be shocked if I didn't get dirty for once.
>>17394476
Any enclosed boots?

>>17394489
Had the same issue with a pair of comfort craftsmen, ended up selling them to some retard boomer for more then what I paid for them.

>>17394157
Bakers will try to scam you if they fuck up on your measurements, including digital measurements, after a 6-8 month wait period for customs. The weird sizes on their website are from people throwing a shit fit about them fucking up and complaining until they give them a refund. They aren’t bespoke boots, they just take vague measurements and make a best guess.

>>17394470
Cats are shit but at least they're cheap and won't fall apart the way timbs will. Carolinas and Justins are a step above that, namely in fit and they'll survive long enough that maybe you can get a resole out of them, and then you have Thorogoods, the mainstay of the windy city steelworkers.
Thorogoods are good boots. Good access to steel toes, safety certified boots, etc. if that's your need.

White's workboot line is also good but
>350 cutter
Nonce pick, for work boots. Anon won't be able to explain why he's recommending that over the Chore Boot or the Journeyman

>>17394490
jazz and jazz related shoes will always be reddit

>>17394496
You don’t have to buy from baker you can buy from White’s themselves which has free returns.

>>17394492
>I'd be shocked if I didn't get dirty for once.
In that case, I would go to ebay and search up some of the boot brands you see here. Reason being is that I don't think motor oil ever comes out of leather.
If you're fine with the inevitability that your boots will just get oil on them, and most are, then I would suggest hitting up a Red Wing store and getting sized.

If you are not fine with it, take the cement construction pill and get >>17394498

>>17394518
>then I would suggest hitting up a Red Wing store and getting sized.
I would suggest this anyway if you're going the ebay route only because this gives you valuable sizing information that carries over to other footwear. Boots usually run a size big and that's not accounting for the different last types.

>>17394354
Mirin those Rick pentagrams
Want some myself but I can’t wear those to work heh

>>17394204
You are comparing things that are not construction quality here.

>>17394243
>>17394249
You don’t have to spend +500 to get boots that last, regardless of what this pillow biter said.

>>17394492
enclosed?

>>17394429
shit or get off the pot

>>17394306
i honestly love the look of iron rangers. i'm still rocking corcorans but i am seriously considering pulling the trigger on some red wings when i get a little extra dosh

>>17394535
Yeah I'm sure there's a range, I'm happy with the Austrian parachuter boots someone linked or whatever, and depending on if I look like a fucking idiot trying to make a punk look with them, I may or may not look into more boot options, but yeah, this thread has been very helpful, so I appreciate it

>>17394586
Worry not. It is punk to wear millitaria.

>>17394624
oh yeah i think the boots'll do fine, I'm just thinking of trying to put together the rest of the outfit. Don't have much practice styling for a long time. Went for really particularly obtuse and noticeable fits in highschool and college and did well with that, even though the fits were all dogshit, just cause it matched my personality well, but that was a long time ago, and the interim has mostly just been I throw on whatever tee and jeans, or occasionally labor core type stuff, kinda borrowing from my uniform working on an airfield, or my time warehousing.

>>17394531
>materials aren’t construction quality
Ok, we’ll then perhaps the reason why Viberg doesn’t work with shell will offer a clue.

>>17392593
I know you're being ironic, but holy shit that faggot admits to doing paid reviews in that video when he goes on a no-one cares tangent on how one of the companies never paid him as agreed for his review.

>>17394656
Outer Shell (lel) of the boots is a choice. Not working with a certain material for the upper speaks of their competence in working with certain material and nothing about build quality: which is how the footwear is made, what inside components are.
Sure, you can say Carmina make better shell footwear; does not mean they are built better than Viberg.
Similarly, CJ shell stuffs are better looking (finish) then Edward Green.

new brogues!

I sure am glad i didn't waste my money on something like Alden.

>>17394201
grenson augustus, grenson

>>17394243
I just bought a pair of Allen Edmonds Patton boots on sale for $300. I hope these aren't bad boots that will wear out in two years.

>>17394689
>they don’t use shell because they’re more competent with their knockoff shell that is easier to work with
You’re not wrong I guess.

>>17394696
post-acne shoes

>>17394694
potato last desu

>>17394718
Why are you so obsesses with labeling horsebutt as knock off shell? They are different products meant for different things. Viberg released plenty of shell make ups. Why don’t you buy one if you are worked up about it?

>>17395152
Why are you so obsessed with defending them? I haven’t said anything controversial, I haven’t even said they’re bad boots. Their horsebutt is supposed to imitate shell, and it is inferior, and it is much easier to work with. Those are all facts. Get over your fanboyism and stop screeching about people discussing boots.

>>17395158
>horsebutt is supposed to imitate shell
making up shit again anon

tensions flare as bootists debate the merits of equine posterior for the third day in a row

>>17395158
I found it objectively untrue when you said they are built worse than Carmina.
It’s obvious when you compare the inner components.

Horsebutt has never meant to be a product that imitates shell. It is its own thing.I just find your reasoning deeply illogical.

>Viberg makes shell boots
>Carmina makes shell boots
>Viberg makes horsebutt boots
>If Viberg makes horsebutt boots, that means Viberg is built worse?
How does that even compute? Not like Carmina only makes shell footwear either. I can make similar illogical claim like carmina is built worse than meermin because they dont’t use x leather.

I feel like your prejudice came from your miss-understanding of what horsebutt is.

>>17395180
Yes, for context, Shell horsehide is just what Wolverine advertised their horsebutt as.

>>17395163
What exactly is horsebutt? Is not actual shell is it? That sounds like another marketing shit from viberg.
I have a pair on the 2030 last and they are pretty good but the price is insane, even at 500 dollars feels like too much, and you don't even know what you're getting if you order then online, they are always different from the stock photos and what I don't like about Viberg is how they cater to redd*tors with short attention span and always looking for the next new thing offering their limited edition service boot made in extreme coffee brown Horween leather that is never ever going to be produced again. It's like naked and famous for boots and they are both Canadians

>>17395211
Horsebutt is not shell cordovan, no one claimed that, fooled anyone to believe that nor anyone even has that misconception.
It’s just mindbogling where did you even have thet idea one is an imitation of the other.

>>17395165
at least they're not arguing about c0rk

Here's a photo of my brown CXL Vibergs

Sorry for the dog hair
They are neither as shiny nor as wrinkled as it looks, it's just the light

>>17395270
not bad

>>17395211
horsebutt i.e. horse rump, the strip, bark strip, russet horsehide strip, natural horsebutt strip, north of cordovan

>>17395302
shell

>>17395302
>>17395304
Thank you for clarifying

My CF stead suede vibergs, I use the saphir dark brown for this

>>17395302
>>17395317

Horserump/butt should look like the culatta above, all of the part from the strip down to the end.

>>17395270
Those are nice

>>17395319
>use the saphir dark brown for this
What does that mean?
Saphir's waterproof spray does not have color

>>17395347
Saphir renovatour spray I mean, it does come in colors... Black, medium brown, blue, dark brown

Okay so I have chunky brown boots and a brown belt, what's next?
I usually wear dark-wash, straight-cut jeans and a button-up that contrasts.

>>17395319
Suede boots feel so good but mine are a little small
I think if they were a better fit/last they would be my favorite shoes

I really like those

>>17394249
Sounds like you're looking for Corcoran lug sole jump boots.

>>17395435
>corcoran
rated worst boots by roseanvil

how are stitchdown shoes resoled without losing their shape?
won't the upper just come loose when you unzip the stitches?

>>17395444
uppers are lasted, meaning the leather is stretched and formed over the shoe last

NEW
>>17395485
NEW
>>17395485
NEW
>>17395485

>>17395444
The sole is glued on with stitch down, the upper is stitched to the midsole not the sole.

>>17395440
I don't know who that is, but they were good for the price when I had them 8+ years ago.