/fa/ - Fashion

>>17326886
Corduroy and sweater will always look good

>>17326886
>people dress like 90 year old british farmers because they’re from the soulless suburbs and have no culture

>>17326936
Okay? Is there something bad about that? Will they look better if they continue wearing jeans & hoodies? Where are you from? Surely somewhere super cool and full of soul that isnt a capitalist hellscape like most of the developed world?

>>17326886
Thats called neofolk (also some wool milsurp is good)

>>17326950
Yeah, my birth place has sovl but good luck trying to buy a personality

It's a pretty feminine aesthetic but throw in some work wear and actually be handy if you're worried about it and you'll be fine.

>>17327046
Ben Garrison, it that you? What do you think of Ye?

>>17326886
just normal everyday brit country wear of 60s - 80s

>>17326886
it's cool but most /fa/gs can't grow nice stubble like that

>>17326936
>Dress like 90 year old british farmers
I'm not OP but I prefer to see it as dressing like a young rural Englishman of a better past rather than an tired old rural Englishman of today. I'm not someone who idealises the past, but the *aesthetic* of the English countryside back then is my ideal.
>because they’re from the soulless suburbs and have no culture
Exactly. I'm under no delusion that I'll ever actually get an idyllic, simple life in a cottage in a countryside village, so the next best thing for me is to bring as much of those soulful country feelings to my soulless suburban life. Wearing comfy sweaters, corduroy and flatcaps, decorating my home in a charming rural style, growing vegetables in my garden, going on nature walks and so on all help me feel cosy so why wouldn't I want to do it? I don't see why living in the suburbs means I shouldn't do those things.

>>17326886
It's cool and effay if you actually do things like farming, woodwork, hiking, etc and choose your clothing with practicality in mind too. Ideally the clothes should look a little worn, because being immaculate makes it look like you've never actually set foot in nature before.

Why is it that cottagecore is more idealised by the political left than the political right anyway? Conservatives tend to lean more towards the suburban 50s and 60s aesthetic as their ideal but the rural "cottagecore" aesthetic stems from a much older, homogeneous and more traditional way of life.

i adore male cottagecore but there is ZERO inspo culture online to draw from

>>17326886
You can get a lot of inspiration and possible suppliers from hunting/outdoor manufacturers. These are quite expensive but don't lack the proper quality and durability. Then there are flee markets and second hand shops with tons of "old peoples clothing" for the cheap.

>>17327237
This image invokes such joy in me, yet despair knowing that I don't have it.

>>17326886
This dude's entire wardrobe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhal5TKvoTk

So you want to be a man and dress the way men are supposed to. There's more to this than just the fashion. It's a thin line between conscious adulthood and trad larping.
The advantages are clear
>natural colors
>mixing/rotating different pieces is easy
>no need to buy new clothes constantly because it's timeless
>durable
>comfy
>presents you as the human being you are: a hard working accountable man of God

The fabric pieces you attach to your meat suit must be a symbol of your heritage and the virtue you carry forth. You are a healthy human being, you rejoice with God and work with your hands. You have a vision, an inner one. You live a rural life and a fruitful one. You may not have a family yet but caring for your community and bringing the good, the true and the beautiful into this world is to be a given for you. Don't ever larp it.

What to avoid
>so called "traditional" clothing. These are mostly kitsch and oktoberfest larp costumes (except you're actually from Bavaria)
>synthetic fibres
>logos, fancyworks
>don't ever carry a pocketwatch
>avoid your smartphone
>suspenders most of the time (depends on the handiwork you do and where you are in your hierarchy)
>business wear
>lousy thin fabric
>never do abstract and tiny patterns

What to wear for trousers
>cord
>green jeans
>wool suit pants
>plaid (wide chequered) or plain shirts
>long sleeve
>anyything knitted
footwear
>leather boots
>leather suit shoes
jacket
>everything loden
>any basic hunting jacket you can find/afford
>military (also look for reenactment stuff)
Underwear
>never constrain your balls
>t-shirts

There's no palette from where you can buy this stuff without being a rich fag larper. You build your wardrobe with things that radiate grit, longevity and minimalism. The reason there isn't much inspiration or culture around it is because most people live a sterile city dwelling life of futility and superficiality. Break free from that first. Take up a trade, commune, pray and engage independence.

>>17327442
It depends on what subgroup of conservatives, daily wire t

>>17328052
Cringe

>>17327442
Leftists recognize that they're all effeminate pussies so they stylize themselves with the aesthetics from traditionally masculine lifestyles to cope, it's why "basedboys" all have beards

>>17327442
I don't think cottagecore is necessarily a retvrn to tradition thing. i think it's just the desire to live in a world that isn't completely dominated by urban sprawl and consumerism, which is also the point of the 50s idolization even if that ones advocates don't realize it

>>17327442

>>17328052
>>never do abstract and tiny patterns
Abstract patterns would be way more fitting than something representational like floral.

>>17326936
Nowhere has soul anymore

>>17327442
Pure fashion centric movements seem to be more lefty, where as right wingers will follow the fashion of previous political movements

ALL THESE COTTAGECORE AND NEOFOLK THREADS BUT NO ONE GIVES ME BRANDS/PLACES TO BUY CLOTHES. I JUST WANT SOME FUCKING NICE ROUGH WOOL TROUSERS.

>>17328627
>go on auction site
>mens 100% wool pants
>cheap and high quality
>nobody will even know they were used when you wear them
>you look like the guy wearing high quality shit if questioned
>great success

NOOO!! SOMEONE HAD THEIR BALLS IN THEM!!

Just see it as a fucking bonus.

>>17328629
my main problem is im a 5'7" manlet so its impossible to find articles of clothing that fit my figure in a way that im satisfied with, but im also OCD and autistic, so maybe im being too critical lol Any "auction sites" you can recommend? All I know is eBay, which ive never found good for clothing, grailed/depop, which is full of fuckboys overpricing their garbage and not knowing how to conduct business or be respectable, and mercari, which is all retards.

>>17328635
Not him, but i have the same problem. It's extremely difficult to find good used/vintage pants with 28" waist and inseam.
There's also Poshmark, which widens the net a bit. It doesnt have as much as ebay but it has a better selection than all the dumb zoomer shit on depop.

>>17328635
>my main problem is im a 5'7" manlet

No your main problem is toxic internet meme culture rotting your brain. You're a 5'7" guy.

I would really say purchase a basic little $50 sewing machine, watch a handful of youtube vids on basic clothing alternations and you'll soon have perfect fitting clothing.

>>17328643
holy shit lol I have a 28x28/29 too. Its the worst thing about being a manlet. A lot of places sell 30 inseam at the shortest. Its atrocious finding good second hand pants. Same thing with Small shirts. Poshmark has a pretty poor selection. eBay would be good if it wasn't filled with mass produced Chinese shit that you have to sort through, which is why I always feel the need to search out specific brands, though I never can really find anything. My wardrobe consists of like 2 pairs pants, 4 sweaters, and a few shirts. I feel like im just going to have to start dropping a few hundred per piece because everything that I find that's not mass produced garbage is very expensive and hard to find second hand.

>>17328650
I'm not that broken up about it. Its just hard finding clothing, which is why I mentioned it. Is it really that easy to make alterations yourself? The one tailor around here is brutal. I took some trousers to get hemmed and it was the sloppiest shit ever.

>>17328657
For sure, check out this dude on youtube. He is all self taught and basic stuff is very easy and makes a HUGE difference.

https://www.youtube.com/c/StylishDad

>>17328662
If I fuck up a nice pair of pants I’m killing myself and blaming you in the suicide note

>>17328668
PRACTICE. And you should just taper some pants, easy to fix if you fuck it up. Only bad if you cut the excess material and then taper it.

>and blaming you in the suicide note

Leave me some shekels too. And a good old porno dvd, fuck streaming.

>>17328549
Dude larping as a fucking hobbit isn't "traditionally masculine" these niggas are alright. There are a lot of what you would call leftists that are just genuinely nice people that desire to live in a simpler, more traditional world. In real life, people are not these binary avatars of leftists and rightists. I think innately most human beings understand that our world is corrupt and awful, and that we need to reevaluate the nature of our societies and the power structures that control them. But consciously, they don't think that deeply. So they feel it but they don't understand it. So you want to live in a cottage in the woods and live off the land, so do they, you both just have wildly different ideas about how we are going to make that a reality.

We all have more in common than you think anon. In the end, deep down, we all know what we want: A simple life, our needs met, peace, love, and happiness. Cottagecore is an expression of that, and one that I think will always remain apolitical, a boon for all people of all types.

4chan really needs its own interior design board imo. Right now the interest is spread all over the site, but because they're in different boards their scope is limited to the bias and expectations of that board, e.g

>/fa/
You can talk about interior aesthetics but it's expected that they're linked to a clothing aesthetic, with the focus being more on the clothes.
>/diy/
The focus is more practical, talking about advice for a specific project, not talking about aesthetics in of themselves.
>/g/
You can talk about home theatres but the focus will be on the technology, you can't really talk about the design of the room. You can't talk about offices as a whole, just the "battlestation" part of it.
>/v/
Same as above for battlestations
>/mu/, /co/
You can share your shelves and hifi setup but shouldn't talk about the room as a whole

And there's probably a ton of other examples I can't think of right now. I'm sure there's exceptions, like I've seen people on /g/ and /co/ get talking on a tangent about the room aesthetic as a whole, but it's not like you can just start a cottagecore general there. I'd really love to have a board that's full of generals for all different kinds of aesthetics, has a sticky with infograhics, pastebin and wiki resources, etc.

>>17328950
hear hear!

>>17326886
Shaggy core

>>17328627
>Walk into shop that sells clothing
>“Hi, do you have any moleskin trousers”
>yes they’re over there
>find them in green and try them on to find your size
>purchase a pair that fit
>done

I am literally an autist and even I can do this.

Here are some brands I wear as I’ve been told that they make me look like a farmer or a shepherd.

M&S (for aforementioned moleskins)
Next (for decent leather shoes that aren’t too expensive)
Whitestuff (good cotton shirts and wool jumpers)
Zara (linen shirts only)

Literally just normal brands in UK you just have to look for the right stuff. Normally websites have a feature that lets you see if an item is in stock in a store in your size. Use it.

>>17328611
You have to build your own house to have a soul. You also need to raise at least 60% of your own food.

If you've got enough money to play with then long-running British stores are a safe bet because they market themselves as having a lot of English heritage with rural wear being a big part of that.

Some examples
>Knitwear
John Smedley
Johnstons of Elgin
N.Peal
Pringle of Scotland
>Coats
Barbour
Mackintosh
Private White VC
>Shoes
Crockett & Jones
Grenson
Hunter
Loake
Tricker's
>Misc
Alex Thurston (braces)
Dents (gloves)
Lock & Co (hats)

Bare in mind that cottagecore is supposed to be practical clothing that's applicable for the lifestyle of rural farmer so if spending a lot of money from the brands above makes you too scared to go out and do rural things (that might get them muddy and worn) then stick to something more affordable, but if you have the money to afford them comfortably they're great choices.

>>17328052
I would be compelled to bully somebody who was wearing any but your top outfit.

>"accountable man of God"

cringe

>>17329086

Only /townies/ wear Hunters. Get Chameaus or Ariats.

>>17326886
Souless

>>17329320
Le Chameau used to be good but they're no longer made in France but in Morocco and quality has decreased

>>17329653

Agreed. My new neoprene chasseurs have a big seem down the back which my old ones lack, they feel like they're a slacker fit, even though they're new. Not worth the price tag really, perhaps the cheaper ones are but they still comfortably shit on Hunters.

>>17329660

Meindls and gaiters for anything remotely strenuous is the way to go I reckon anyway.

>>17329320
Noted, thanks for the recommendation

>average cottagecore man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXgKGsEn6BQ&ab_channel=DoctorWhovians

>>17328950
>4chan needs it's own interior design board
Seconding this

>>17330312

Aye,wearing a shirts so uncool. Back to watching old Doctor Who episodes.

>>17328950
>interior design
>>>/lgbt/

>>17327237
We need more of this kind of discourse in here. Thank you for posting this and being seemingly honest.

>>17327442
Cottagecore is largely populated by female "things" with absolutely comical political beliefs so you take a guess.

>>17328714
nigga we are talking about homosexual they/thems that want to receive the respect of farmers by just LARPing as them without putting in any effort to actually being farmers it’s not some grand kumbaya shit lmao

>>17326886
Cottage-core is kitschy aesthetics for women. It has as much to do with actual homesteading as porn does to sex. I also hate how represents the feminine as maternal and safe place to find rest and stability. This is completely wrong because women are by in large insane depending on the time of the month. Pic related is more honest.

>>17328622
Right wing just means "not left" in common parlance so more like Orwell's idea of the Outer Party. An effeminate academic liberal like Jordan Peterson is now considered an ultraconservative by normie society.
The only allowed dialectic you're allowed to choose between is:
> wash your foreskin, become a "man"
vs
>Cut off your penis, become a "woman".

>>17330828
Ree typos. Listening to neofolk
https://youtu.be/f8inUJlAfWE
https://youtu.be/Kjp3QerLA38
https://youtu.be/sOf34XZBkYE

>>17327237
>actually grew up in a rural english village
>parents moved to le big city because they read too much facebook and fell for the hustle and bustle meme
>will never be able to afford a house on my own, in the only environment I feel confortable in
it's an abstract hell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEe-aWWeBH4&ab_channel=Kinolibrary

>>17330806

>>17328052
lmao

>>17328553
the 50s were heavily commercialized though, it is often pointed to as the entrenchment of hyper-consumerism that started post war

>>17331460
You fucking child. I started hating women when I started living with them.

just lurk the neofolk thread

>>17327442
>Conservatives tend to lean more towards the suburban 50s and 60s aesthetic
I suspect that's been influenced by the American perspective, where America was going through a golden age and the economic freedom and prosperity being seen as a the American dream in action. As >>17331487 says though, the 50s were the start of the problem we're in today.

In Europe it's more of a mixed bag with their "golden ages" being further in the past, back when rural life was far more prominent. I can't speak for other countries in Europe but here in England the 1950s wasn't such a good time from what I know about it. The country was still recovering from WWII with rationing being enforced for the first half of the decade and 1950s suburbs look so much more drab and soulless than their American counterparts. The British countryside looked beautiful in the 50s, but it did before too.

>>17331122
I'm so sorry. Most of us probably come from rural families if you go back enough generations, but at least past generations had the excuse of not knowing what they were in for. But to abandon the countryside now is really sad.

>>17328714
It's because leftists actually want to build those communities that rightoids merely larp about. In big cities all the "hip" very lefty parts are very intraconnected with people who know each other and tight knit communities. Rural lefties actually farm in traditional manners. Rightoids are max globohomos and sell their farms to bill gates and pave the grass so they can put in a based chick filla. I mean lefties build actual trad commutes! Rightoids buy lifted trucks and suburbia to hang their blue lives don't matter flags and trump shit on. If you disagree you're a brain rotted, npc polnigger

>>17331745
HAHAHA you really believe this shit.

>>17327442
Judging from people on here, at least, it´s because the left idolizes everything else about it, while the right idolizes the "they used to hate blacks and gays" part and like dressing up.

>>17328052
>except you´re actually from bavaria
If you wear fucking Tracht around here, I´ll kick your balls so hard up your throat you can tongue kiss them from behind.

>>17327237
Wonderful take. Been trying to do similar things and it genuinely makes me happy.

>>17332173
Weak bait

>>17327237
Kek that's Shaftesbury. I fucking grew up there

>>17332291
Nah, I explicitely used "judging from people on here" because it´s not true for the wider public, but it damn sure is for 90% of the cunts on here.

>>17331887
Name one organized right wing group that’s creating a sustainable community and not just a “militia” of boomers drinking and talking about how they want to kidnap politicians they don’t like.

>>17327237
>why wouldn't I want to do it?
You're right, but a lot of men thesedays (especially younger men) discourage it because they think that appreciating rural charm and wanting cosy things is inherently feminine. They're the sorts of people that will parrot "struggle is what it means to be a man" or something cringy like that ignoring the fact that for most men in history struggle was a means to an end and not an end in itself. Being a lazy consumer and being a productivity drone are two sides of the same globohomo coin. The traditional rural lifestyle is an ideal balance between physical labour and discipline on one hand, and beauty and comfort on the other.

>>17332335

I wish the jannies would delete all the /pol/ chatter but then we'd only have about half a dozen posts. Can we not just talk about country aesthetics and knitwear without analysing the fucking politics behind it - whatever they may be.

>>17331745
you have never been to any rural area in the united states

>>17332539

>United States

Found your problem.

What's a good choice for a casual shoe in cottagecore style?

>>17332539
>go to rural USA
>every house is a soulless california mcmansion airlifted into the countryside
>only restaurant within 50 miles is mcdonalds
>every farmer is paranoid and will blast their neighbor's head off for stepping on a twig
>the only thing anyone actually shares is heroin under the bridge
so this is the fabled conservative cottagecore...

>>17328950
there have been plenty of room threads here that survive, i think this is the de facto aesthetic board as long as /p/ and /gd/ are barren

>>17332327
All monastaries ever. The mondragon coop which was founded by catholic priests and survived despite suffering anarchist and communist attacks. The only hippy communes that weren't total shit were run by converted christians or zen buddhists and so on.
Shitlib Leftists just don't have the human capital to put together something that won't just end up looking like Chaz. The rare leftist sustainable community is succesful because they adopt perennial/conservative/right wing principles even if unwittingly/kicking and screaming.

>>17332302
ghosts of the old world, will the world love goodness again?

>>17326886
I don’t know any men who are into cottaging

>>17332302
>>17327237
What's funny is that everyone loves this aesthetic, yet we've stopped building so-called "traditional" architecture for some reason.

>>17331745
I think you've touched on something profound. It's just how southern culture used to be about a cavalier attitude, chivalry, and a stiff upper lip (and beautiful architecture), now it's just about HUNTIN AN FISHIN AN CUNTRY MUSIC AN YEEHAW. Our so-called culture war is a farce, everyone is bankrupt in that regard.

>>17328950
You have my vote.
>>17330381
t. Philistine

>>17333237
I would buy that answer except modern day American right wingers don’t have a thing in common with Catholic monks. The former only cares about Christianity insofar as it can be used as a means of social control. They have no love for God, which is what made those communities that you are describing successful. It is through love for God that one learns to love all life. After all, they are God’s creations. Their lives are a gift from Him just as yours is. The modern American right loves nothing. They define themselves only by what they are against.

>>17333291
Modern right wing is just a liberal in conservative drag. Read "betrayal of the american right" or this article for tldr on how the CIA created postwar-conservatism. Sounds kooky but it is true.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/the-phony-legacy-of-william-f-buckley-jr/
The American right is a gatekeeper and red meat bait machine for the "chud base".

>>17332494
White people can say this because everything as it is benefits them.

>>17333270
lots of interior designers are raging homos and they tend to be really good. maybe you could recruit some by making a thread there.

For those asking for a right wing example of cottagecore then Roger Scruton fits the bill. He was a professor of aesthetics who was outspoken against modern art trends, he wrote a book called green philosophy in which he argued a case for environmentalism for the political right, and he had regular columns in country life, he had a small farm of his own and his home was very cottagecore, etc. He's sadly passed away but his wife continues to use the farm to host events that promote country living and discuss philosophy.

>>17333609

>>17333616

>>17331745
Yeah but the Amish do it best and they’re conservative, hard religious fundamentalists.

>>17333643
Man, I really dig their hats.

>>17333618
This kids are inbred.

>>17332652
AHHH I WANT THIS!

>>17332327
Oh look, an excuse to post more old order Amish kino. Look at all those future tradwives. This pic straight up could be from 300 years ago. They’ve been sustaining this form of community in the US since 1717 btw.

>>17333616
Is this Bilbo Baggins cosplay?

>>17333659
His daughter's cute

>>17333709
Forgot pic

What does effay think of William Morris patterns for clothing?

They're not something you're likely to see someone wearing in a traditional country village, but the designs are inspired by traditional folk styles and wouldn't be out of place in a British cottage/farmhouse (The chair here looks like a Morris pattern for example >>17333609 )

>>17333262
"We" (((they))) are the ones building shit houses and condominiums

>>17333711
Top-tier trad waifu

>>17330381
lel'd

>>17333609
>>17333618
He seems cool but this aesthetic can’t be older than 1980

>>17334366
What makes you say that? To me it doesn't look like he and his home would look much out of place in the 1950s. The only major thing that stands out for me as out of place is his shirt in the third picture and the carpet.

>>17333884
I'd say for a woman some patterns can look pretty good and give a vintage feel on skirts, dresses and maybe hair ribbons. For guys it can work for a tie or pocket square but I think on shirts, trousers, jumpers, jackets etc it'll look gaudy.

>>17333643
they look like they're about to beat the shit of the person taking the photograph. Based. Mischevious fellows

>Verification not required

>>17335450
>matching tie and pocket square

>>17331745
Yea I remember those leftist farms, good times

>>17326936
>le soulful country meme
It's all mega corporations and tenant farmers

>>17336251
Sadly true. It's not financially possible to live off the land in a small farm in most countries. Your options are pretty much:

>already be rich
Live off savings, inheritance or passive income
>be famous
Have the same benefits as above whilst also being able to sell your farm-produced product at a much higher price due to the famous label. Bonus points for making money off a lifestyle blog/vlog.
>have a big soulless commercial farm
Realistically the only way to keep up with the competition.
>Have an online job that allows you to get enough of an income wherever you live.
Probably the most accessible option to the average person but goes against the whole traditional lifestyle thing when you're completely reliant on technology

I think the only ones who live a fairly modest and traditional life in the countryside are people who own a local pub or shop, but even then it's not always profitable enough to live off by itself and can often be run by a soulless corporation despite disguising themselves as something friendlier.

If I'm wrong then I'd love to be proven wrong, and I'm all for embracing comfy rural aesthetics and having a pure ideal, but I just don't want people to delude themselves too much.

>>17336248
I still don’t understand this. How do they expect shit to grow when the soil is that thin? Why did they separate the preexisting soil from the soil/compost they put on top of the cardboard? Why not just farm in the ground that’s already there? Why did they put a fence around the plot? Surely people will see the veg garden and not trample it. Why in other photos did they just dump the plants on the ground still in the plastic pots they come in? These photos raise so many questions.

>>17337018
they're leftists so they're not too intelligent

where my Poundsbury niggas at?

>>17326886
Playing dress up are we?
>ohh look i'm a farmer i'm sooo authentic!
>sheep? what sheep?

>>17327442
Because lefties tend to be urbanite consumer bugmen so some of them get drawn to "authenticity" as a cope. But they only turn what ever authenticity they chase into another consumer choice. It's why they started wearing ripped jeans. I remember when I was a child my jeans were actually ripped for real, due to wear and tare and they were the only pair of jeans I had because my family were poor so I had to wear them. But luckily it was trendy so people thought I was trendy and cool

>>17328950
absolutely, if fucking origami can have a board idk why this isnt a thing

>>17337440
I'm here. For all his faults I respect Charles for being outspoken and supportive of traditional architecture:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1FD96Q8qHY&ab_channel=reelsarency
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LKSUi6TL1g&ab_channel=iconic

>>17337453
Most people in the countryside aren't farmers. Rural clothing is very versatile as it strikes a balance between comfort, practicality and formality. It's also pretty universal, like how picrel is what literal Royalty wear in the countryside yet it looks no different than what you'd expect to find working class people wearing at the local vilage pub.

>>17337806
I'm a rural man myself. I can tell you now, only old farmers wear what OP posted. And even then it is only a mockery of it really. Just some LARPing hipster get up. Hipsters like to wear checkered shirts too because they think it makes them look like a lumberjack but it just makes them look like a faggot, its the same thing

>>17337806
want that specific coat - don't think it's Barbour - anyone know?

>>17326886
I love it! Not just the outfit its a really good picture the colors, background, and the pose just makes everything come together nicely.

>>17339266
I think it's a discontinued Schoffel ptarmigan model. It's not wax, it's actually a a multi layer goretex deal with a felt-like coating on top. There's a ptarmigan classic that's pretty similar.

>>17339655

Schoffel also sell a load of Sandringham tweed items if you want the cap too.

Saw picrel yesterday and all I could think about afterwards were the fits. Anyone know W2C a loose unstructured blazer like what Colin is wearing here?

>>17339993

2nd, looks like a more formal chore jacket

>>17332176
Preiss

>>17339993
Is it worth seeing?

>>17331596
our golden age was from the late 19th century up to ww1

>>17340787
yes, though not necessarily in the cinema

Not sure if this is even the right thread for this, but I recently visited some family in Iceland (I live in the US) and picked up a couple of lopapeysa sweaters. What should I wear with them? Seems like most of my cousins just wear them with casual clothes (jeans, basic shoes/boots, and probably a t-shirt underneath).

>>17341730
Definitely, those sweatshirt are based