/fa/ - Fashion

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https://www.instagram.com/psy3927/

Are duffel coats preppy? I feel like they fit the vibe even if they aren't traditional

>>17313213
Yes, they're preppy, and actually quite traditional as well.

Thank you OP
>>17313213
absolutely. some nice brands are gloverall, OG montgomery,and mackintosh. still kicking myself for not buying the SEH kelly duffle

>>17313221
>>17313223
Thanks guys. Just took a look of the SEH Kelly and that looks incredible.
Just a bit worried a duffle coat migt be too elongating for me as I'm just 178cm 5ft 10, but I do really like the style

>>17313223
You're welcome, friend. I'm the OP of the last TIP thread as well, trying to keep it alive.

good brands for blazers? preferably casual, <$500

>>17313237
Was it ever in danger of dying? I come here whenever I have questions and always get decent answers. I think the tricky thing is keeping prep fresh because it relies so heavily on tradition and trusted brands. At the same time if you want to pull of a preppy style in your day to day life, you need to find the right balance between dressing preppy but still within the range of what's generally acceptable in your social circle (unless you want to make your style your personality)

>>17313245
Before looking for new, I highly recommend thrifting and checking out Goodwills. I found a single breasted Ralph Lauren navy blazer for like 20 bucks and a double breasted Hugo Boss for 15 at the local Goodwill.

>>17313250
I mean the general itself. There was a period where I would periodically check fa and there would never be a TIP general up , when they used to be a consistent fixture of this board.

>>17313254
Yeah I was talking about the general as well, then just trailed off. Thanks for keeping the thread alive friend

Is RL good?

>>17313250
yes the general was dead for about 18 months, and was a shithole for awhile before it died. not enough fits posted, lots of trolls, /pol/ transplants with off topic racism, and too many people asking how to get top quality clothing on a poorfag budget.
>>17313260
its a shell of what it used to be. I pass on the new label stuff at the thrift. the vintage PRL stuff made by corneliani is very nice

>>17313223
Why are you regretting not buying the SEH kelly duffle? Better than the competetion or just personal preference?

>>17313286
Maybe a long shot (unless this is OC), but does anyone recognize that particular jumper?

>>17313302
It looks like one of those polyester ones they have at Walmart.

>>17313291
because my size sold out, and it wont be possible to find another duffle with the same features
>>17313302

>>17313371
Nice bargain bin find, midget.

>>17313392
Now you are just being an asshole for no reason.

>>17313371
Thanks

I don't live in a cold country but soon will, what's a good winter coat and a good jacket for cold weather in general? (Literally have never worn either of these except on family vacations as a teen, so I have no clue)

>>17313392
most people fit an S unless you're 6'2+ or fat.

>>17313233
That shouldn't be too much of a concern, duffle coats typically aren't as long as overcoats.

Is it larpy if I dress preppy but I'm not American? If it matters I come from a background equivalent to WASP but for my region.

>>17313487
cold weather:
anorak, harrington/blouson, barbour, flannel overshirt, fleece half zip
winter weather:
peacoat, parka, duffle, balmaccaan, polo

>>17313673
Thanks, could you recommend me good brands for this kind of stuff?

>>17313286
Do you have the full picture?

>>17313697
lol anon im sorry but i dont really wanna go through the effort of rewriting pastebin for /tip/ brands. check old threads on one of those 4chan archive sites for it.
>>17313710
it's in that knockoff menswear thread

>>17313697
see if the pastebins ITT have any useful info
>>/fa/thread/S15508229

>>17313746
Ah yep, i saw it just after posting that. People are shitting on the fit there, but i think the slice posted here looks really good. Not sure about pleated pants with that look though.

>>17313746
Thank you anyways
>>17313749
Thanks

>>17313772
they're flannel lined, haven't been able to find any with a similar rise anywhere. they look sharper when freshly pressed

Is there such thing as a prep watch for poorfags

>>17313657
Just wear whatever you want. But if you really care, Many europeans wear preppy clothes It's fine.

Where can I download the Sloane Ranger handbook?
Preppy handbook is available everywhere, but not the sloane.

>>17313392
Fatty spotted

>>17313201
What is the deal with one-button suit jackets? Are they old-fashioned? Are they too niche or special? Or just uncommon?

What would you guys wear on top of picrel?

>>17314144
Da fuck is with laces? Is that a rope?

>>17313245
Spier & MacKay is probably the best that you're going to get on the lower end, outside of thrifting as the other anon mentioned.
>>17313260
For essentials, they're fine but overpriced. I'd only buy Polos or Rugby Shirts from them personally.
>>17313802
Not really. In my opinion, Hamilton is the best poorfag brand that aligns with an Ivy style, with maybe Tissot as a secondary option.

>>17313802
I guess something cheap and quirky but still with an old-school case shape, a mickey mouse watch would fit the bill.

Otherwise seiko has or had affordable watches in similar style to the datejust and tank, but I don't know if a poorfag cope version of a watch is very preppy.

>>17313802
Seiko 5 with a nato strap

>>17314144
What a retarded way to tie boots

>>17314295
>nato strap
Never ever, with any watch.

>>17313802
>prep watch for poorfags
snk355
snk357
snk361
snk363
snk365
snk366
snk368
snk377
snk379
snk381

snxs73
snxs75
snxs77
snxs79
snxs80
snxs81

Orient Bambino 36mm
Tissot PRX 35mm
Timex Marlin

>>17314123
reserved for black tie attire

Never wore a blazer/sport coat outside a suit. What should I look out for?

>>17314492
Shop around until you find one that you like, then start wearing it. I found a decent one by Ben Sherman that has no shoulder padding at all and it's very breathable for that Texas heat.

>>17314324
I'm poor AF, here's my Seiko that pairs well with most outfits.

>>17314519
Would look much better on a leather strap matching shoes color.

>>17314492
blazer and suit coat implies it's not part of a suit anon lol
>>17314496
sorry but ben sherman is some fused mall rubbish. hope it fits well atleast
>>17314519
eww the welt on the shoes is nasty, are they cole haan?

>>17314390
So it's basically only for the most formal occassions? I've seen a few of them in non-black tie colours at some stores recently, hence the question

>>17314144
>>17314146
>not wearing a matching noose tie with your shoe rope

>>17314550
yes, any other use is typically for aliexpress tier tailoring

how does one wear a rugby shirt without looking LARPy and like a nonce

What the hell is going on in the vtg/used market? Couple years ago, I could get vtg and even NOS flannels, sweaters, and polos for nothing online. Now, every listing is more than buying something equivalent new. Especially so for knitwear.

>>17314613
Same as everything else, be well groomed and reasonably athletic.

>>17314604
Thanks bruv

Why does this old polo only have two buttons? I've never noticed this before

>>17314146
>>17314557
/biz/ checking in, that's part of the uniform, dual purpose when BTC dumps again

If you have really broad shoulders can you get away with wearing a brown leather jacket over a prep base (ranger loafers, khaki slacks, OCBD and sweater) or are leather jackets never used in the style?

>>17314775
..what kind of leather jacket

I want an OCBD that's better than my wimpy collar J Crew one. I was thinking of one of those US made Brooks Brothers shirts on ebay with a mill flaw that isn't noticeable. I have no idea what dress shirt size I should get. Should I just compare chest measurement to my J Crew? Usually wear medium/38 chest

>>17314809
It has varsity-jacket-style pockets and hem, with a simple a2-jacket-style collar.

>>17314775
I do it all the time, but it’s a nice lambskin polo RL jacket >>17314809

>>17314841
Polo RL makes a good OCBD, regularly on ebay for $20

>>17314872
I don't really want the logo

where can i get a sick tweed suit. maybe around $400 - $800

>>17314644
People caught on to the fact that "they don't make em like they used to" whether that means quality, cut, or color/pattern.

>>17313252
How about ebay? Saw a ralph lauren blazer on there for $30

>>17314841
>>17314942
Bumping, same need, same desire for no logo

OCBD Must Haves: (by priority)
Proper length
Big collar roll
Unlined collar
Pattern matching
Must iron fabric
Extras:
MOP buttons (usually comes with shirts around $100)
Side gussets
Split yoke
Hang loop

Brand tier
Avoid at all costs:
Anything mall tier. This includes modern RL and PRL, Lands end, LL Bean, Uniqlo, J. Crew, BB red fleece, BB 346, TM lewin, Charles Tyrwhitt...

Baby's first OCBD: (can easily be found for dirt cheap)
BB, Vintage RL, PRL and LL, Gitman bros*, Gant rugger, Thomas Pink

The good stuff:
Pre 80s BB, BB black/golden fleece, J. Press, Proper cloth*, Kamakura

Patrician: (diminishing returns beyond this point)
Mercer, Turnbull&Asser, Drakes, Kamakura Vintage, Finamore

Just buy bespoke:
Brioni, Kiton, Loro Piana, Charvet, Borreli, Sulka, ...

>>17315374
>can easily be found for dirt cheap
Please spoonfeed? I really dont want to buy uniqlo but i need a few ocbds and cant drop 140 per shirt on the babbys first tier shirts

>>17314729
That is a more casual polo. Plenty of brands will do that, especially for the summer, I've noticed, even though it's counterintuitive; you'd think a summer shirt should unbutton more to allow the chest to breathe more.

Maybe a polo with two buttons just looks less sloppy with two buttons undone than a polo with three buttons would.

>>17315374
What is your opinion on Spier and MacKay? They offer pearl (actually, I believe it is "shell" that they use) buttons and unfused collars and cuffs. I don't know whether they are must-iron, though.

https://www.aran.com/

Are the sweaters and knitwear here actually good quality? The pricing seems quite low relative to what I expect good wool knitwear made in the UK to be.

>>17315374
what's the asterisk?

>>17315594
Seems similar to prices of other places I've seen

>>17315374
sorry this list is out of date, i need to add to it.
>>17315376
you can buy kiton shirts on ebay for like $70, most brands are sub $20
>>17315595
I think it was to remind myself to do more research on the brand.
>>17315520
no experience with the brand but those features are all positives.

>>17315594
I was looking at arans from here too, was going back and forth between merino or heavier wool for a cableknit

Any suggestions where to cop white bucks or spectators in Europe?

Headed for a party. Give a r8

>>17315927
Better call Saul!

>>17315930
Saul Goodman inspired ofc ;)

>>17315927
>>>/trash/

>>17315941
Looking for something more constructive.
Alternatively, post face, fit or body.

>>17315945
what'd you expect, you posted a costume. just because it's a suit doesnt mean its /tip/. my fits already ITT

>>17315941
>>17315958
Dipshits like you are the reason this thread was dead for so long

>>17315927
Hey mate, if this is a serious post, here's some feedback.

My biggest gripe with this fit is the shirt. Firstly, the colour of the shirt does not seem to match very well with the colour of the jacket. Maybe a jacket that leans more toward brown than grey would work better, to reduce the contrast. Secondly, the collar looks too big; it's crumpling around your neck. Thirdly, the shirt sleeve may be a bit too short, but how much cuff you want to show is up to you, I think. For the rest of this post, I'm going to imagine that you've swapped out your current shirt for a white, well-fitted OCBD, with the same jacket.

The next issue I have with the fit is the tie knot. It's a bit small compared to the shirt collar. Perhaps you did a Continental? I would recommend a four in hand or a half windsor, depending on height and tie length. The tie fabric/pattern I am actually fine with (given you are wearing a white OCBD, as above).

Finally, I would make the pocket square plain, white and linen. This is because your tie is already very "noisy": it has a small pattern AND a big pattern on top of it. This, in my opinion, makes it difficult to combine with other patterns. Also, your jacket already seems like it has a prince of wales check, which you can probably get away with, but your current pocket square is a bit much for my taste.

>>17316064
jesus christ I just realised it's a better call saul costume. Can't believe I actually spent time providing feedback lol

I haven't seen the show, but looking at the fits, I see what you were going for. Guess this just shows just how long a way fit, quality and face go.

How you do choose a scarf for an outfit? I feel fairly confident about everything, but something this extra element is throwing me off completely. Should I just get a plain monocolor scarf so I don't have to worry about it?

>>17315374
I think Spier & Mackay should be added to the babby's first list, especially now that they finally have OCBDs with box pleat and locker loop.

>>17314319
NATO straps are quintessentially preppy, regardless of what you think of NATO itself. It's just a nylon strap with stripes.

>>17316535
>a nylon strap with stripes
Never ever, with any watch.

>>17316110
>How you do choose a scarf for an outfit?
By color palette, time of the day, etc.

Could someone please recommend some place to get a
>must-iron
>regular point collar (not button down collar)
>preferably poplin or broadcloth with a placket
dress shirt?

It's like it's impossible to find a shirt that meets all of these criteria. I thought about Paul Frederick but some online reviews say that they don't hold up very well after a couple washes

Or is it time to just buy some cheapo polyester shirts from Van Heusen or Walmart and never be comfortable?

Picrel is me. I am so tired of looking.

Where do you guys recommend getting a decent blazer for the summer?

>>17315903
Pretty sure bucks are exclusively a Murican thing.

>>17316780
not gonna give you reccs because you have a soijak saved

>>17313802
A Timex or a Seiko 5 on a colorful strap.

Where to find a pair of pants like these? Everything at most stores is slim fit

>>17314841
Found a BB at the thrift store for $6, 15.5 - 34. Absolutely swimming in it. What the fuck size do I get? The neck is the right size

>>17317049
I only have a couple, I just wanted something to visually represent my turmoil and sadness

>>17317411
Do you even know what you want? Could you describe what's different about those exactly? They look roomy in the thigh and close-fitting in the calf. Maybe "athletic fit" is what you want? I don't know. Just wear whatever fits you. Straight fit maybe. Nothing is guaranteed to look like that on you.

>>17317495
Same thing just happened to me. I am a newb but I think the problem is the one i got is "traditional fit", not regular or slim. Yours might be the same.

>>17316780
Spier&Mackay likely have what you're after but if not they, along with propercloth and luxire, offer affordable custom shirts.

Just not built for trad fit. Guess it's r*ddit slim fit for me

>>17318357
Size down everything.

>>17318357
>shitty low rise jeans
>shirt that obviously doesn't fit you
Get some real pants and a shirt that isn't your daddy's first

>>17318431
>Jeans

>>17318366
+1, and get a better belt.

>>17318357
Looks alright. I kind of like the blousy 90s shirt look, but it's not for everyone. I agree that a narrower belt, maybe a single prong, would look better. I like the pattern of the shirt and the fit on the chinos doesn't look too bad.

I have several button-down collar shirts, but I was planning to get a set with other styles of collar because I've heard button-downs shouldn't be worn with double breasted jackets, and I have a double breasted suit plus two double breasted blazers that I want to wear. What collar style would serve me best, point, spread, or cutaway?

>>17318357
shirt shoulders are wrong
trouser rise bottom is too low

>>17318357
is it? could it be? SA anon?!

>>17318990
Who?

https://www.asket.com/de/shop/accessories/oversized-cashmere-wool-scarf-beige

Is there any reason a man wouldn't wear a scarf like this?

>>17319146
yeah maybe it's too hot for a scarf

>>17319167
I'm just curious as it's only modeled on women. I am an American, so I don't know scarf rules.

>>17318990
obviously not retard

>>17313392
>t. wears a 4XLT

>>17319554
>Still being butthurt about a six day old post on le 4chins

Yo i just went to the /tip/ reddit and their fits mog ours into oblivion. What gives?

>>17320060
give an example?

>>17313392
You dont know how hard it is to find second hand clothes for a small nigga :(

>>17313802
No, a watch is a status symbol with no utility if you have a phone. Buying a cheap watch is just making you look like a poorfag for no reason

>>17320128
Yeah but going watchless makes you look like an ultra zoomer, plus its not like people can immediately tell your watch is cheap unless you're wearing an obvious clunky plastic piece of shit

>>17320060
It's in the op post. Hey the captcha had my initials. Cool or creepy?

>>17320060
>ours
you talk like a reddit transplant.

>>17320139
>>17320065
Meant to reply to you lol

>>17320140
I am, I came here to learn about fashion bc my fits got destroyed in MFA. I liked this style best so I'm working on it.

>>17313802
Casio for ultra cheap and still somewhat respectable

Advice for good haircuts? Between curly hair and a mature hairline, I'm having trouble finding good references.

>>17320238
Hitler Youth
>b-but that's not /tip/
JFK

>>17320238
Pixie

is anyone here actually living in the northeast? or are you all flyovers

>>17320435
I live in the South, even preppier.

>>17320435
Good old southern frat boy here.

>>17320435
new england here. currently way down south though and missing out on supreme comfiness

>>17320435
Does Pennsylvania count?

>>17320435
I work out of Hartford, which honestly isn't very Ivy. I've seen better style out of Providence and Boston. Bridgeport or Greenwich are probably fine just due to NYC money.

>>17320435
I'm northeast but northeast australia not murica

>>17320761
no you're mid atlantic at best
>>17320768
port chester is gross, greenwich is great, and then stamford goes back to being gros

Do you have a preferred place to get chinos? I'm trying to not buy mall-wear like macy's, but I honestly don't know where to go beyond my local stores. Other than a basic fit I'm still trying to find what makes a good, long lasting garment that won't fall apart because it was cheaply made.

>no fits
sad
>>17321884
thrift lol

>>17321960
>no fits
I haven't posted here before, but I will give it a go.
This is what I was wearing today, apologies for dim lighting

>>17321884
I've some high rise chinos from Spier and Mackay. They're pretty good for the price, free hems on the basic chinos too which is nice.

>>17315927
I'm Italian, from Milano, so trust my eye.
For me the things you could do to better your fit are:
1 - crumple your handkerchief a bit
2 - take the tie clip off
3 - the colors are not too bad, but I think you need a bit of colour. Try a more colourful tie or handkerchief.

That's all. Remember that elegance is NEVER perfection, if you are too tidy you'll look like an american trying to be elegant. Always have some sprezzatura in your clothing, be it a tie that's not perfectly symmetrical, something unbuttoned or uneven, some bold color choices that look like errors but are actually conscious choices. Buona fortuna!

>>17322185
>Always have some sprezzatura in your clothing, be it a tie that's not perfectly symmetrical, something unbuttoned or uneven, some bold color choices that look like errors but are actually conscious choices
So do the hipster thing where you intentionally wear your clothes wrong in a laughable attempt to seem nonchalant? That's more pretentious than looking too perfect desu.

>buying barbour from bongland with a $100 gift card from work

>comes out to 87.43 GBP

>$100.43

>I literally have to check exchange rates like a HFT fintech guy to see if it goes down one cent so I can make this purchase

>>17322209
the point is that if you are all perfectly tidy, perfectly set etc. you inevitably look uncomfortable. The point is to look perfctly at ease, and so you need to learn to give the right weight to details, meaning not too much of it. Elegance IS in the details, but the real elegance happens when they look seamlessky integrated in the whole, natural and comfortable. You must learn the rules first, and then learn to go your way with them in mind. If you follow them you look like a mannequin, if you don't know them you risk looking like an ignorant. It's just like in classical music, everyone studies harmony and counterpoint, with iron rules and forbidden note progression, just to learn that every composer broke those rules for creative intent, with purpose. I hope I have explained myself

>>17322211
can you not afford the 43 cents

>>17322315
I'm guessing the giftcard is invalid if the cost exceeds $100, they usually do bullshit like that

>>17320435
I’m the exact flyover/ Reviewbrah meme you are probably thinking of.

>>17320770
I don’t know the different Aussie places but I’m pretty sure it is the Southeast that is your white trash, hick types. Thinking of towns like Sofala.

>>17322089
>monk strap

>>17322383
Plenty of shit towns down there

i've been told i look good in black by multiple people, however i live in the tropics so there's no good black clothing that isn't hot as fuck. what middleground is there?

>>17322457
Charcoal gray or navy

>>17321960
Here's my fit.

>>17322089
nice texture on the coat, spearpoint collar is a bit odd though
>>17322381
hopefully you dress better
>>17322428
single monks are cool
>>17322490
this fit has already been posted, i recognize the pin. good try

Looking to go for a NYYC look. Any tips?

>>17322533
Yeah, it was posted by me

>>17322533
>>17322570
I'll send another picture, hopefully that'll be sufficient evidence I'm telling the truth.

>>17322581
fucking LOL holy shit

>>17322533
> hopefully you dress better

I’ve been told I look like Ashton Kutcher and I wear the clothing specifically on this list (in fact I am wearing a Tank right now) so try to picture that in your head.

https://robbreport.com/style/fashion/alain-delon-style-1234584279/amp/

>>17322585
I'm guessing you're not too keen on it based on that reply

>>17322609

>>17322613
Alright then, what don't you like about it?

>>17322609
ignore the bait, thanks for the 2nd photo

>>17322624
My pleasure

>>17322601
Is Alain Delon /tip/?

>>17315800
Gitman vintage should be on Kamakura Vintage tier. I have both but I prefer Gitman (gitman more expensive)

I get complimented almost daily by strangers on my fits.

>>17322717
Ok

>>17322663
I guess

>>17322089
Google glycemic index.

>>17322790
bahah brutal

>>17322089
nice jacket, love the tie. I actually have very similar versions of both
the shirt collar looks flimsy and wrinkly, get a crisper more stiff one
the monks look gay

>>17322533
>>17322837
Thanks for the critique on the shirt. I've gotten into making them myself recently since all the ones in the stores have tiny stubby collars.
Evidently I've gone to the opposite extreme and made my collars too big.
Also I agree, I need to stuff it with more material to make it stiffer

>>17322581
Forget him anon, I wish I could wear a chalk stripe DB suit to work every day. It looks a bit tight on your bursting biceps though.

>>17322843
>I've gotten into making them myself recently since all the ones in the stores have tiny stubby collars.
That's impressive then, but where do you live that they only sell tiny collars? in the UK there are many good options for proper shirts

>>17322843
can you post a fit just wearing the shirt? me I make mine, too, and I prefer the less stiff collars.

>>17322870
Shirts with good collars tend to be more expensive. I don't have a good job
>>17322882
Sure thing. It's only my 4th shirt so there's still some areas to figure out, but I'm getting there. All trial and error

How can I pull off this aesthetic?

>>17322936
The amount of material looks good, nice cuffs, maybe try to make the shoulder seam less wide, so that it sits at the red line. That's 1cm or 1.5cm maybe, and it will pull up your sleeves a little so there will be less wrinkles on it

>>17322948
Yes you're right they're a tad too wide in the shoulders. I have a list of various "add 1cm here, remove 1cm there" going for next shirt. Though my main concern is with the shirt. it fits somewhat okay but it may be because it's soft. I want to experiment with just collars to find a fit that fits even with a very stiff collar. As the collar currently is, I suspect a stiffer collar would jab into my collar bones were it to stand upright

>>17322952
main concern is with the collar* rather

>>17322948
I'm not too keen on the collars to be honest. I actually like long spearpoint collars but yours seem to be spread out too much for my liking. I prefer my collars to be long, sharp and straight facing.

>>17322970
Also they seem to be a tad flimsy

>>17322843
please dont stuff them, unlined collars are beautiful. these collars look great for warm weather, for colder weather you can just insert a collar stay or try using thicker oxford fabrics.
you should try making some shirts with a tall, single piece collar for insane roll.

>>17323015

>>17322946
you gotta be devious

>>17320238
Roger federer 10 years ago

>>17313201
Franklin Sherman is THE TIP KING

>>17320435
Northeast fuck yeah
Italian north east

>>17323613
Sudtirol is pretty /tip/

>>17320435
I'm from Düsseldorf

w2c chinos with slight taper and a good rise?

>>17324463
In almost any store.

>>17324538
how I wish

Just bought a 24’ 1968 sailboat. Would love some sailing fashion recs and inspo. Even better if it has women’s fashion included, my gf also wants some outfit ideas.

I would join you all in the promise land but I have long hair so my only path is the druggy or rocker path which is essentially the same. Im sorry, I love you

>>17324925
unless it's metal, fibreglass, or ferrocement you're not gonna have any money to buy clothes with bro

>>17324925

>>17325105
You can definitely make long hair work with preppy style, lots of 90s Ralph Lauren ads show it.

>>17324925

Can M65 field jackets be incorporated into preppy fashion or would I be clashing styles and look ridiculous?

Obviously I could just get a barbour jacket instead but I really like milspo clothing too

>>17324463
jack donnelly m3s

>>17325972
They can work but I think picrel is what you should avoid

>>17325972
>>17325978
Can anyone list what some good M65 brands are? There's a lot of crap out there and I'd like to get a decent M65 if I can.

>>17325995
RL make one I think, idk if it's any decent.

>>17325972
clashes imo. i only wear camo/milsurp stuff when im out at the cabin

>>17325978
Replace the polo with a light sweater and fix the pants and that fit isn't too bad.

Rate the Professor's fit

>>17326557
It's good, but my boy Thurston Howell always has the best drip

>>17325583
Yeah but my hair is perfectly straight and goes down to my hips and I have no intention of cutting it

>>17322533
What pants are that?

What Kind of jacket can you wear over striped ocbd shirts?
I really wear them a lot and it works well with pullovers, but in a slightly more professional academic surrounding a blazer or jacket is more appropriate

>>17327005
Harrington jacket

>>17313201
anyone know where I can get high waisted dress pants? that are cotton or wool

I already have a massive list, spier and mackay, cavor, armoury, berle. those ones are not the style I am looking for, I cant describe it but they are too textury? and ostentatious? in a way. Im looking for more lowkey simple pattern, high waisted, either gray or black.

pic related. and also straight leg too, not slim, everything is fucking slim

>>17327005
>>17327164
Sorry to clarify, I meant the sports coat, blazer, dress jacket kind.
However, Harrington jackets are great and I wear them a lot during summer and spring

>>17327212
Thrift stores near me are loaded with the things. Probably the only thing they have that isn't newer cheap shit

Thoughts on back-collar buttons?

>>17327692
What is their purpose? to keep your tie in? Or to keep your collar from folding up? I have never had such a problem and they are a pain to button.

>>17327704
From Gitman:
>A mainstay on our classic button downs to keep the collar firmly in place.

Looks out of place and a bit silly innit

>>17327716
When have you ever had your collar pop up?? This doesn't happen.
Should you also have extra buttons to keep your shoelaces on? Should you have extra buttons to keep your jacket buttons buttoned? This is madness

Is flannel a good fabric for a blazer? I know hopsack is pretty common but I impulse bought one from JCrew because it was on sale and I don't dress up enough to justify a $400 one from somewhere else. The only other blazer I've ever had was a cotton one from Target with armholes so low they felt like batwings.

>>17327721
>t. never played polo

>>17328057
oh and you have have you?

>>17314841
J Press OCBDs are great and have really big collars with roll

>>17328201
The problem is they never have any in stock, and the average sizes (35/16 in my case) sell out incredibly quickly. Been thinking about just going with mercer & sons and spending the extra $. Have you tried Gitman's OCBD's? Stuck between the two.

>>17313201
where do I cop some 50s style polos.

>>17328651
You mean like Italian knits? You can get them on Amazon from such brands as Paul Jones and Stacy Adams.

>>17328057
He's talking about the button at the BACK of the collar, that one is so your collar doesn't ride up when wearing a tie.

>ITT
>copers who can’t let go of the past

>>17328897
I shouldn't respond to bait, but just because GQ told you that dressing like a cross between a rapper and a gay prostitute is "in" doesn't mean you have to listen to them.

>>17328904
>strawman
go back to school, zoomie

>>17328906
Zoomers don't dress TIP, retard. let me guess, you're one of those bitter basedlennials who still thinks skinny jeans and untucked flannel shirts are cool

>>17327692
I have one, I like it, but it's positioned closer to the collar seam

How do you de-crumple a tie?
Steam shower did nothing.

>>17329002
I read that you can iron it on low heat and high steam but you need to put some cotton between the iron and the tie. Haven't tried it myself yet though.

>>17329040
I've heard it too, but I'm too afraid to ruin the ties.

Two new trousers I bought this week from Scavini, both VBC wool, one pleat. Not really in the best TIP fashion but I wanted to share.

>>17329317
anon.. are you like 3 ft tall? what is that outseam??

>>17329347
... I've folded them ?

>>17329349
oh

>>17329359
I understand it might have been confusing
Have a great day anon

>>17329317
>>17329347
>>17329349
>>17329359
>>17329377
Lol, I thought they were plus-fours for a second

>>17329428

>>17329432

How do you tell if you're getting a good quality garment that will last? I'm very used to buying mall garments that will last a year or two, and I'd like to start making big purchases that will last long enough to be worth the extra price tag. Part of the appeal of tip to me is a wardrobe for years to come.

Are there any trad knitwear makers that make explicit christmas patterns?

This has probably been asked a billion times but, where the shit can I find a tennis/cricket jumper or just American style prep/ivy clothes at all in Europe, that won't completely fuck me in the ass in price + import fee + tax + tip, but also aren't cheap asos shit?

I've tried all the brands in the OP, and all of the more preppy or ivy style brands like LL bean, nautica, etc, don't even sell a quarter of the products their original US counterparts do. And ralph lauren's extremely overpriced for bangladesh slave labour crap, even if it looks nice.

Other options I've found are jcrew and brooks brothers which are overpriced here too, without any of the discounts the former's known for, and abercrombie and fitch cashing in on the ALD hype, which I won't even bother with as it's shit.

As for European brands, I'm just left with barbour and massimo dutti style things which just aren't as visually "fun" even if they have their place,

Tl;dr I prefer stuff much like pic related and it's a style I'm finding really difficult to find stuff like in Yurope without being raped by import fees and taxes. In case anyone goes to say it, thrifting also isn't really an option because there isn't an established past of preppy/ivy stuff like this in my country either, so does anyone know?

>>17329002
that's barely crumpled, I've fixed ties much worse than that. I have a clothes iron with a built in steamer but you could just get a steamer like the one i posted. i don't recccomend ironing the ties at all though, it will probably make them look stiff. tie edges should look gently rolled, not creased.

>>17330053
Focus on British brands, I suggest looking for traditional brands within the "sloane ranger" style.

>>17330053
Use Vinted. The search engine is catagorised by brand, so you can single out brands you actually want

Are there any good vintage/second-hand market sites with an emphasis on higher end / euro stuff? Trying to find a specific Barbour jacket, a longhurst, that is a unicorn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meh4LnhunBE

>>17322305
Literally nobody but sprezz autists will look at somebody wearing his clothes correctly and think "he looks like a mannequin." The TIP look is already nonchalant. You wear soft OCBDs instead of starched spread collar shirts, loafers that just slip on, etc. You just throw the stuff on like its no big deal. What you're proposing is standing in front of the mirror for hours and doing little things wrong on purpose to seem like a homosexual Italian's idea of nonchalant, and the end result is that you, with your unbuttoned OCBD collar, missed belt loop, unbuckled monkstrap, etc. just look like a sloppy idiot who can't dress himself.

is this appropriate to wear in TIP setting?

>>17330711
What's a TIP setting?

>>17330708
I agree. People go over the top with Sprezzatura. The reality is most people aren't going to see the intentional sartorial errors you've made and think it's cool or nonchalant, you're just going to look like a spaz who can't dress properly. It's quite pretentious to spend a great deal of your time trying to look like you didn't bother or spend any time at all, it's absolute ponce behaviour. Just dress properly and you can throw in a few bolder choices or a statement piece, no need to wear a watch over your jacket sleeve or anything like that.

>>17330708
>>17330847
I think the whole sprezzatura thing is completely null and void by the simple fact that you're wearing classic menswear at all.
The idea is supposed to be that you look elegant without trying, that you're just effortlessly good looking. This doesn't work with classic menswear because nobody wears suits anymore. Even if you're just tucking in your shirt you are immediately noticed as trying.

The closest thing to true sprezzatura would be something like pic related. It's what everyone else wears.. but it's cleaner, better cut, but without looking too tryhard. You look at this person and it's hard to make the argument of:
>he's obviously had these clothes tailored and goes to great effort to keep his sneakers clean, and great effort to maintain that stubble and messy haircut that still looks good
Even though that probably is the case.. it looks natural and effortless

Is it acceptable to wear white slacks in Winter if you're visiting an island in the tropics?

>>17330711
No

Cop or not? Their stuff fits me very well OTR. I'm public facing white collar.

>>17330936
Tbh I think the closest you could get to "good but effortless" would be some kind of Ranger Sloane revival. It has that air and is already much closer to how people who want to look "dressed up" in public actually do these days.

>>17331086
Yes, no one cares about wearing white outside of summer these days anyway, especially outside the US.

anyone recommend a brand that sells 100% wool trousers that have a really long inseam?

>>17331497
Just go to a menswear shop and get a pair that has unfinished hems. Then go to a tailor to get it hemmed for like $10.

>>17331299
cop, is it a suit or just the jacket? doesn't really matter though because burgundy blazers look very dapper with light to medium gray trousers.

>>17331675
It's a suit.

>>17331086
Yes, the "no white after labor day" rule was originally just meant for shoes anyway.

>>17332213
Oh. What shoes should I wear then, I was going to bring my white bucks?

>>17332297
White bucks should be fine. Loafers work too.

any suggestions on this?

>>17332221

>>17332321
Okay, thanks.

I guess barbour jackets are nice to look at but won't protect against the cold that much. Anyone recommend a sub 5 degree C jacket?

Got my three made to measure shirts today. From left to right it's wine coloured 5% cashmere 95% cotton blend with a hidden button down collar and barrel cuffs, white cotton twill with a turndown collar and french cuffs and a vanilla oxford cloth button down collar and barrel cuffs.
>>17331299
Cop it!

>>17332799
If you wear an undershirt, shirt, sweater and then something like a game fair that has actually done me on a good few shoot days. I imagine the zip in liners for the tartan lined models would be worth getting unless you bought one you can't layer under. If it's really dreich I wear a schoffel gilet with mine too and it's pretty good even without a scarf or anything.

>>17332821
Nice shirts. Anyone know where to get some good spearpoint collar shirts?

And here's me trying them on. Somehow I think they got the shoulder measurement slightly wide.
>>17332833
Thanks anon. Try searching for made to measure places in your area instead of importing so you can select whichever collar you want.
>>17332344
Arthur Morgan is that you?

>>17332843
And finally a photo of me wearing the french cuffed shirt with the new suit I picked up on Friday.

>>17332833
i sold some from charvet on ebay a month ago

>>17332846
Great fit, very debonair. Is that a Brooks Brothers tie by any chance? Remind me off one I had.

>>17332983
Thank you anon, I appreciate it. The tie is an Amanda which I assume means Amanda Christensen. It's an older tie, maybe from the 90s, I got from my father after he stopped wearing ties. I think the purple goes rather well with the light grey of the suit.

>>17332866
Sold for $120 right?

>>17333004
I always tend to like older ties from the 90s and earlier, I recently got a vintage Coach and a vintage Fendi tie. Light grey and purple is a great colour combination.

>>17332843
>wide
-5mm on each side would be better.

>>17333574
Yeah. I sent the pics to the MTM studio and will see what he replies, maybe it is done intentionally like this because it will shrink in the wash. Who knows. That's at least what their website claims applies to the denim shirt fabrics.
>>17333059
Yeah, as long as you don't get those ugly novelty cartoon prints that era had some great ties.

>>17332846
Wow, that looks very nice. Where is the shirt from?

>>17333641
Thank you Anon! The shirt is the middle one I posted here >>17332821. It's from Swedish MTM studio Shirtonomy with production in Portugal.

>>17333574
>-5mm
>>17333608
maybe even -10mm on each side

>>17332832
Looks comfy man

I don't own any suits or dress shoes. Next year I need to go to a wedding. I'm semi-poorfag and don't want to spend a ton of money but don't want shit. What do I do?

>>17333976
Buy something that is as versatile as possible since, as you experienced, there will come occasions where you do need this.
Buy as cheap as possible but from 100% natural materials:
Single breasted 100% wool suit in charcoal/dark grey
Black cap toe oxfords (leather)
White cotton dress shirt without a buttoned collar
Regimental or (dark) solid colour silk tie
These items will get you through weddings, funerals, business events and employment interviews.
>>17333646
Well the MTM guy replied and said it was supposed to look like that and that it will shrink in the wash. We will see if he scammed me or not!

>>17334012
>Buy as cheap as possible
Any recommendations where? Brooks Brothers? J Crew? The nearby tailor shop with the short old Italian guy running it?
>business events and employment interviews.
I'm a 31 year old blue collar flunky so that won't matter

I bought some wool trousers recently, and I know synthetics are bad, but is it terrible if it's 90% wool and 10% nylon or did I just make a bad purchase

Got a new tie. Thoughts on what to pair it with?

Where would one look for (semi-)formal straight fit trousers in size 28? International shipping very much preferred. Thanks

>>17334672
a trash can

>>17334698
You some sort of comedian mate? Fucking shithouse.

I just got back from a week in New Orleans

Fuck I wish I had some linen

>>17334408
90/10's not too bad.
Were they at least cheap?

>>17334408
The nylon is there for strength. Don't let synthetics deter you from buying something if you'll use it as functional clothing. At least you won't be one of the ill-advised newbies who wear their super 1000's wool suit pants on hikes because "it's wool".

New thread when?

>>17334946
Be the change

>>17334938
no one here can afford high S number wools. also i read an article once that deubunked the fiber length and fineness using microscopy
>>17334946
this thread died 150 posts in

>>17313201
Would this look be considered TIP?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkOGGR2JOhM/?hl=en

This K-pop guy inspired look is what I want to go for because I notice they wear some classic pieces like cardigans and dress shirts while managing to not look like a faggot or a grandpa.

>>17334970
>no one here can afford high S number wools
They could secondhand. Anyway, I failed to communicate what I meant: wool dress pants in general.
>also i read an article once that deubunked the fiber length and fineness using microscopy
Isn't it more of an industry term?

>>17334672
nice tie
you should pair it with some nice linen and another mans semen

>>17335081
look into the armoury for a higher quality take on asian takes on western clothing.

>>17335081
>k-pop inspired look
>not looking like a faggot
pick one

Hi, where would one look for (semi-)formal straight fit wool trousers in sizes xs or 28, etc. that ship internationally? Not too fussed on details at this point. Thanks

>>17334688
>>17335164
pathetic, how did you even get access to the internet

>>17327212
Tony is wearing Zanella Bennett pants on the sopranos

>>17335176
Please post an image of your outfit I beg you

>>17334032
I'm not in your country so I can't recommend you anything local. And the Italian tailor may be able to make you something good but it definitely won't be cheap.

>>17334012
>it will shrink
It hardly will. 2-3mm on each side max.

>>17335373
Yeah, that's what I think.

>>17335262 see
>>17313286

>>17335081
>k-pop
>not look like a faggot
Topkek

>>17334672
A solid light or medium gray suit and a white dress shirt.