/fa/ - Fashion

The new Fragrance Groups 101 chart

The fragrance flowchart for beginners

>>17179969
Get it right op

>>17179969
>issey miyake dies
>the frag I was looking at by him doubles in price

Any recommendation for a cologne/fragrance that smells like diesel exhaust?

>>17180021
Encre Noire A L'Extreme

>>17179998
That sucks. I was thinking of getting some others from that line too.

>>17180021
Petroleum Histoires de Parfums
Etat Libre d'Orange Rien (maybe)

>>17180021
Maybe try this
https://www.etsy.com/listing/461561096/fueled-up-perfume

>it actually smells great
wtf are arabs legit at the forefront of the frag game? how it it so close to TF and yet so much cheaper

>>17180052
Private Blend frags have notoriously big markup, so I'm not surprised. it's pretty expensive for a clone too, it's like Hermes prices lmao

>buy from soulless biggest corp ever a.k.a Amazon
>take out half the frag and put it in an empty bottle
>splash the package with some water
>contact amazon support, attach pic of the package and half empty bottle
>congratulations, you won a free fragrance AND you stole in the most ethical way possible
This is literally infallible, I'm gonna try it someday

Was wearing Eucris Edp in the high heat and my wife complemented me. Dunno, i was into niche and aquatics, but vintage fougeres and chypres are my new love.

>>17179992
Based

Was wearing Eucris Edp in the high heat and git a compliment from my wife. Heavy oakmoss scent, smells almost like pure oakmoss absolute oil. Dunno, i was into niche and aquatics, but vintage fougeres and chypres are my new love.

>>17179992
Based

>>17180052
Some frags are just easier to clone. For the most part, I find many arab clones to be very hit and miss. Few get the smell right, few also get the performance right.

>>17180052
The materials that go into a bottle of TF are less than a couple bucks. Even the Arab cloners still have a crazy profit margin in comparison to what it costs to make

Im wearing a blend of patchouli, oak moss and oud i whipped together, its nice stuff.
Oak moss is so damn strong one drop in a small bottle almost overpowers everything else

>>17179998
NOOO NOT CHINKY TERRYAKI

>>17179969
Divine Vanille? Are you intentionally trying to trigger some anons? It’s not the worst scent in the discovery set. I’m enjoying it now but I wouldn’t dream of buying a full bottle. I also wouldn’t want my girlfriend to wear it if I had one. It just goes to show that just because a frag is “natural”, it doesn’t make it good. We all know which fragrance is the real star of the show.
>>17180077
Good job on getting a compliment from your wife lmao

>>17180069
They will eventually stop selling to you

Dolce & Gabanna The One
Eau de Parfum?
Or Eau de Toilette?

>>17180021
Rien by ELDO

Okay, Encre Noire is growing on me.

>>17180021
My favorite category:
-Fahrenheit
-Fueled up - cinis
-Cdg Garage
-Petroleum HdP

Rien Eldo Intense smells very nice like leather and shoe polish cream, but then the aldehydes and roses ruins it.

>>17180203
im new to f(r)ag gen but I sampled Rien last week and kinda understand the shoe polish thing, but what the fuck does aldehyde smell like?

>>17180175
will have to make it count then
>>17180193
EDP, it smells almost the same and it performs better

Only real choice for today

>>17180156
>It just goes to show that just because a frag is “natural”
Essential parfums basically lies about their fragrances being natural. They call a frag 87% natural but they are including the "natural" alcohol. So out of the actual fragrance oils they are something like 30% to 40% natural depending on the fragrance. Not really a large accomplishment, many frags contain similar amounts of naturally derived ingredients.

>>17180263
really? that's kind of pathetic, lmao

>>17180203
I've yet to smell a vehicle with exhaust that smells like violets (fahrenheit)...

>>17180175
They will, so just don't do it too much.
>>17180069
go for it

The thrifty man’s Bleu de Chanel

i remember seeing i hate perfume on the wiki yeas ago and remembered the burning leaves and books one and those sounded intriguing, should i bother with the trial sizes? how else should i go about trying new scents in a cost effective manner?
should i even bother if my sense of smell is appalling?

>>17180287
Buying samples is thr best way to try fragrances, don't blind buy full bottles especially from indy perfumers because they can sometimes bee pretty far out there and awful to some people.

>>17180287
Also with cb i hate perfume i can't actually find anyone selling full bottles. Maybe you judt have to email him or something but he doesn't have a shopping cart on his website that i can find.

>>17180287
>how else should i go about trying new scents in a cost effective manner?
Here's my take on it:
If you can, the most cost effective way to try fragrances is to smell them in person, from a tester, at a department store or at the mall. This is most cost effective when you already stop at the mall somewhat often.

If, of course, you have to drive a long way to get there, it's not worth it. But personally I like to go to the mall a couple times a month. So when I'm there I try a lot of things and try to take home as many small samples as I can.

Your nose kinda gets tired after a while, so you can't smell a large amount of fragrances in one trip. But if you go to one store and try a few, then walk around a bit, and go to another store, you'll be OK.

My process for this is: I first spray fragrances I'm interested in on a test strip. It gives me a pretty good idea what it's like. And the ones I really like, I will spray on my skin. Back of the hands, and inside the elbows--that gives me 4 spots to test how it smells on my skin. And where possible, like at Nordstrom or the Chanel store, I ask to take home a small sample. So if I'm at the mall I'll smell 6 or 7 frags at a makeup store or whatever, maybe spray one or two, on my skin. Then I'll go to various stores and ask for small samples. At my mall there's Montblanc, Chanel, and some others. And then I go to nordstrom, try a couple more on test strips, and ask for one or two more take home samples.

So I come home having smelled a dozen fragrances and I have a couple on my skin to see how they last, and I also have like 5 or 6 sample sprayers.

The downside, of course, is you can only smell stuff that's relatively popular.

And then the next most cost effective way is just to buy sets of small (under 5mL) samples from websites like the perfumed court. Then if you really do like something you can decide to buy a full bottle later.

Sorry for the long post

>>17180313
>>17180299
Well I do love the smell of dirt, vinegar, and fish, astringent and earthy smells. There is a cart section on the site, but what about choosing between a water based or an absolute? An absolute seems like it may be better for longevity since I typically work long hours in an office, but what about the longevity of something water based on clothing? His samples are kind of pricey to warrant buying one of each imo.
>>17180344
No malls near me, but I'll check out the perfumed court, thanks.

>>17180286
Missoni Pour Homme smells like Bleu de Chanel edt and is cheap at discounters

>>17180361
Ah that’s why it’s gotten so popular?

I like M01 and Acqua Viva. Some CDG incense frags. Sel Marin was a let down. What should I try

>>17180359
>No malls near me,
That's too bad. If you have a Nordstrom or Macy's you can try those. Macy's is pretty crappy, they try to sell you junk. very pushy, can't spray things yourself, and no take home samples. Norstrom is great though.

You might also try Ulta or Sephora. They're chick's shops, really, but they still have some men's perfumes. And I guess you can still get your nose on some women's perfumes as well.

If you don't have ANY of those then that kinda sucks because you won't get free samples, but yeah, the perfumed court has been nice for me. I've used them a couple times before. I got 1mL samples before to save money, but I would recommend buying a little more. It's hard to tell much about it with just 1mL but a small 5mL sprayer is more useful. Still, 1mL is enough to at least see if something is nice or not.

>>17180375
i forgot about ulta, that's closer and might be a better experience than something like dillards or macys.

thoughts on amouage journey? thinking of getting it since it has a good price on discounters and I love spicy frags

>>17180361
smells way better in my opinion. I dislike BDC edt, MPH smelled nice albeit a bit generic

>>17180052
Is this the leathery one I’ve heard so much about?

>>17180466
Sample before buying a bottle, impossible to tell if you will like it without trying it

>>17180481
yes, it's a clone of Tuscan Leather

is it any good? I can get it for half of current price, I like leather but I don't like declaration which is marked as similar on fragrantica

>>17179973
>>17179976
I think it’s time for a new chart that includes Bois Imperial.

>>17180556
Agreed. I would actually replace the discontinued Bulgari Black in the initial “circle” of 10 fragrances on the flowchart with BI and make a new tree out of it.

>>17180542
Havent smelled it, sounds good but risky. Mayne consider equipage geranium if you want something vintageish but safer

>>17180580
i know equipage and e. geranium and kinda like both, i'd say both are "exclusive dated" and the only situation i can find for them (at least OG equipage) is evening and a suit
so eau d'hermes is similar but even more difficult?

>>17180570
+1
One can make an arrow from BI to Ganymede. The latter has leathery facets so the leather reccs can be attached to it instead of Bulgari Black.

>>17180584
Just from my reading it opens with a big blast of cumin which gives you that body odor kinda vibe. I think its wearable for someone like myself but probably isn't super accessible. Then again like i said i haven't smelled it, so assume im retarded or even actively malicious. I also see it get compared to jicky a lot, which has a reputation for being a bit skanky.
Scroll down to Alpahirones review. He is a fag that loves 80s macho frags and collects vintages, his review should give you a reasonably accurate picture of what you are in for.
https://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Hermes/Eau-D-Hermes-4660.html

Commes Des Garçons Zero is forgettable. Don’t bother.

>>17180570
>>17180589
Might wanna make a whole "Bisch" tree out of it, his hit frags lately all share common notes and are very recognizable. You could include the new Kenzo Homme EdP too, it seems similar enough to BI and as a designer it's easier to sample for many people new to the hobby, to get an idea what he's going for. The arrow would say something among the lines of "more aquatic". Remove L'AP Dzing! as it's also discontinued.

>>17180628
you are not funny...

>>17180609
alrighty, i read some of the reviews and i'd rather spend that cash on prada amber which I love, but I'm stll waiting for the price to drop

>>17180556
Agreed. Also, it’s time for an updated chart that doesn’t use the highly offensive “oriental” term to group fragrances. It’s 2022, we can be better than this, bros.

>>17180630
Seething tranny

>>17180656
mmmh still not laughing, try again maybe?

Ok working on updating the flowchart… wish me good luck I’ll need it with my paint skills lol

>>17180658
I didn’t post it. I didn’t think it was funny until I mined your salt. Anyway.. Sotd Caron l’anarchist. Does anyone else enjoy this discontinued gem?

>>17180655
Fragrances of Oriental Olfactory Descent? (FOOD)

>>17180675
Mm.. FOOD

>>17180375
If you're in Australia you basically only have two dept stores to choose from: Myer or David Jones.
And both have jack shit if you don't go to the main city branch.

I got burnt out on fragrances buying to many cheap designers and blues, do have a few I love but trying to be more deliberate with future purchases

I know I plan on buying TF Noir extreme as I loved it when I sampled it , any suggestions for unique cold weather scents for the coming fall and winter?

I’m 5,9. Mid 20s usually dressed somewhat casually though I dress up for dates

bought azarro wanted by night
what am i in for

>>17180837
Buy yourself a razor and shave you bum

>>17180919
Older picture I am shaved at the moment

>>17180893
Personally I think it’s a fall/Christmas scent. The cinnamon accord is prevalent. I think most wanted is sexier, but wanted by night is a god tier bottle

>>17180388
I found Ulta to have more men’s frags on the shelf to smell than sephora.

>>17180893
a rather notorious incense note

What's something citrus-y to round out my collection
>Bvlgari Aqua EDP
>Bvlgari Blu EDT
>Cartier Pasha Parfum
>Blue de Chanel Parfum
>Chanel Platinum Egoiste EDT
>Co. Bigelow Elixir Blue
>D & G Light Blue EDT

>>17180961
Light Blue eau intense

>>17180967
I'd rather not have a flanker of something I already have. Was maybe thinking about Hermes Concentre D’Orange Verte or REPLICA Under the Lemon Trees.

I liked montblanc legend night, but its projection and longevity is shit. Is there a better performing alternative to this scent?

>>17180961
Dior Homme Cologne.

>>17180961
I really like Ultrared Man by Paco Rabanne. It starts of super citrus but blends down to being something like a warm vanilla.

So I’ve been seeing a lot of discourse online about how this is a fragrance “everyone” has. That it is boring, soulless, metallic, etc.

The truth is, all you need is Dior Sauvage, and I think it’s time we acknowledge that. I see some posts on here, with 50+ frags arranged with mood lighting inside a cabinet or on a silver tray. Are you really wearing all of those bro? Who is this bizarre shrine for? What do girls say when they come over and see your collection? Oh wait, they don’t exist in your world, because you look like a hoarder freak. And no woman would subject herself to your sickness. All you need is Sauvage. It is so wearable and versatile. It can be used day or night, at school or at the office, etc.

When I put Dior Sauvage on I turn into a different person. I am not joking. My back straightens, my muscles get tighter, and my balls drop even further. No, I am not kidding. It fucks in the way that no other fragrance does, and it’s the type of frag to spit roast your girlfriend alongside Aventus while you sit in the corner with your baby penis in your hand, reeking of oud. Do I have Aventus? NO. I have Dior Sauvage.

“What about the Sauvage flankers?” You may be wondering. Well, buy any one of them. They all have the same effect. They all WORK. Bleu de Chanel SUCKS. Good luck getting laid or any compliments with that.

One day, two girls in Sephora said “OMG Dior Sauvage is so outplayed, it smells like a fuckboi.” So I wore Sauvage around them the next time. Guess what they said? “OMG what are you wearing today? It smells great!” You stupid bitch, I’m wearing Sauvage!

Wear Sauvage and rejoice. (If you’re in Portland let me know and we can have a Sauvage meat up)

>>17181234
Kill yourself

>>17181234
this was written by christian dior

So I got picrel and realized I need a patchouli frag. What do you guys recommend? Psychedelique is already on my list. I tried Pardon but something lighter would be nice.

>>17179969
Is this really similar to tobacco vanille?

>>17181234
At first, I admired your passion but then I realised it was copypasta and you swapped out a few words. You could of atleast unironically swapped out Sauvage for Bois Imperial.

>>17180837
Yeet that The Scent Absolute bottle as far away as you can. Get Sauvage Elixir.

>>17180961
Platinum Egoiste doesn't have a citrus note.

>>17181338
no, what makes you think that? not even fragrantica says that.

couple of frags ive owned before or sampled recently

armani code - dont remember this much. wasn't great for the office back then. spicy and more decent for winter or nights.

gucci pour home - sampled a lot in store and came across this one. only one to get a compliment. an ex. ''you always smell great.''

gucci ?? gold cap - a mistake, a flight attendant bought this for me by buying me duty free. had to suffer it, nothing like pour homme. too sweet, girls perfume.

mont blanc - whatever the original is, smells like lynx but higher quality. not much of a fan but used all of this when i use to hit the gym heavily. though i did only own terry dhermes and ysl opium, so prefered this.

terry dhemeres - old man suit smell. i wear a suit, and could also argue am old, still wouldn't wear. not up to the hype.

ysl opium - bought on a whim, thought of opium incense i burn. nothing alike. too sweet. picture some nigger dressed to the 9's in smart casual winter wearing this.

ck one - overwhelmingly cheap in price and smell. projects a mile. smells synthetic.

1988 - high quality toilet spray, and i mean high quality.

colonia intensia - just purchased 50ml of this. my office scent.


je suis un homme - ?????? purchased 50ml of this. going out scent.

git - great smell but something smells artifical after a while

woody perfecto - physically disgusting

the orchid man - nice, but skin scent

milky musk - milk and sandalwood, what's not to like, skin scent

blenheim boutique - lemongrass cleaner meets grandmas garden, no thanks

>>17181298
Profumum Roma Patchouly
Straight and linear sweet patchouli fragrance with no fuzz and extreme longevity.
Haven't smelled Psychedelique, but it appears in the "reminds me of" section of Patchouly.

adp essenza - this one won the most votes after asking people to smell this, oud, and sandal. my girl says this one smells like indian.. make of that what you will.

farenheit - the girl says this one also smells like indian.. yet she doesn't stop sniffing it. actions > words

bdc - can see why this is popular

eros - yuck, for some reason smells better on my girl than when i use it myself

adg profundo - just no

>>17181298

>>17180961
terre d'hermes

>>17181434
you ain't slick, quentin

warm summer day
I wear Kouros
little sister says I smell like a stinky old man’s armpit

>>17181473
Tbh I don't like it at all. It seems to be a love it or hate it kind of frag. If you happen to like it, ol' Quentin made another one with ridiculously strong performance.

>>17181509
Which one?

>>17181525
Patchouli Magnetik.

>>17181476
Based. I also see kouros as more of a summer frag and i don't see myself wearing it in the winter or when it is colder, The only problem i have is that i bought 50ml instead of 100 right away.

>>17181234
Versace eros does the same for <30 yo w less verbiage and more sexual life

Yesterday Sotd Caron l’anarchist
Today Sotd vintage polo green

>>17179969
wtf do I have to do to find a straight incense and light smoke fragrance
>CDG Avignon
too much antique wood chest smell
>Rien Intense
Too much old dried fruit smell like Poison kind of
>CDG Zagorsk
too much pine almost minty
>Montale Full Incense
same as Avignon suck my dick montale
>2 MAN
incense not biting enough. too much cumin/plastic

Ive tried others but I can't recall at the moment

For september i've allowed myself to buy 15 samples from lulua.pl. These are my choices. What would you change?
Squid Ekstrakt - Zoologist
Chergui - Serge Lutens
La Religieuse - Serge Lutens
Gris Clair - Serge Lutens
Megamare - OP
Boccanera - OP
Blamage - Nasomatto
Baraonda - Nasomatto
The Soft Lawn - IA
You or someone like you - ELO
La Fin Du Monde - ELO
Remarkable people - ELO
Fico Di Amalfi - ADP
Colonia - ADP
Colonia Essenza ADP

Im a 19 year old male

Don’t sample things you can’t afford or aren’t willing to pay so much for. I suggest you try some classic masculines. Guerlain heritage, guerlain habit rouge, guerlain vetiver, Caron pour homme, Caron le3, Caron yatagan

>>17181692
I am assuming you are replying to >>17181687

None of those are sold in stores near me, they dont offer samples themselves, except for the caron pour homme, and i dont see myself as a super masculine guy, but more of a sweet giant type of guy.

>>17181652
Kyoto? Hinoki?

>>17181699
Caron pour homme fits sweet giant type while maintaining masculinity. It’s a barbershop lavender vanilla cologne. This is the one that surprised me the most on my first sample order amongst creeds, zoologist, Tom fords, and other “niche” fragrances

>>17181723
Looking at its fragrantica page, it is really interesting, i will check this out too, thanks for the recommendation

>>17181706
seem to have poor performance. ill probably check out the rest of the cdg line though

>>17181692
take your pills grandpa, a 19 year old will most certainly not enjoy your pissy "classic masculines"

>>17181739
Yeah I've tried a few of those and they are nose rape, and I'm saying this as someone who tends to lean more "classic masculine" for my daily wear (adp colonia in summer)

>>17181687
I'd change out remarkable people for fat electrician. much nicer frag, remarkable people just smells like fanta

>>17181687
Pretty based

i want a budget magic love potion for everyday, i think about dior sauvage fragance (not the yellow one), what you think?

>>17181692
I’m 100% positive you don’t pull off any of these properly. They’re also too dated for a 19yo guy.
>>17181699
Ignore him

>>17181745
Get Essential Parfums Bois Imperial instead of Sauvage

>>17181748
will check and reply from my ignorant nose opinion, thanks

>>17181745
Dior Sauvage would be perfect.

>>17181745
sauvage has gotten really oversaturated, you can run into the "this reminds me of my ex" problem very easily
dior homme intense is a nice sexy sweet date scent if that's what your looking for

>>17181425
Last post in prior thread said it was a reasonably priced alternative

>>17181760
I think eau des baux is still your best bet desu

>>17181723
I hate the top note lavender, thankfully it's gone very quickly.

Im new to the fragrance game. What can I wear that make people think I smell good without it being obvious that I’m wearing a fragrance? just want to be the guy who smells good.

>>17181652
Ebene Fume, badboy style

>>17181743
Fat electrician is just encre noir muted with vanilla. It only gets better as it dries down and the vanilla goes to the background a bit

>>17181748
I had sauvage as my daily wearing frag but got rid of it and got BI after the sales went even further through the roof with the depp trial

>>17181826
Maison Margiela - Lazy Sunday Morning
you will smell like laundry

>>17181826
you could try all the minimalist, transparent molecular frags like Dior Homme 2020, H24 or just pure Iso E Super
or one of those soapy Prada frags if you want to smell like you just washed without some expensive soap. possibly Platinum Egoiste if you prefer herbal shaving soap instead

>>17181828
idk, it's way more nutty and gourmandish to me, with a nice balsamic note too. I don't think it's particularly similar to Encre Noire at all, maybe the Extreme version if anything but even then, not really

Matching fonts was pain in the ass but here’s the progress of the updated 2022 version of the flowchart. As requested:
>replaced discontinued Bright Neroli with Neroli Intense
>replaced discontinued Black with BI
I preserved the leather reccs from the previous version by adding Ganymede in between. What next? What other fragrances are (really) discontinued and unavailable?

>>17181815
My wife and I love the lavender top note and spray it on our bedsheets at night.

>>17181845
Where is the dreamer?

>>17181845
Good effort anon. Keep it up. I think that Muglers might be discontinued?

>>17181845
just reads as if Egoiste was everything you want already
at best Bois Imperial could replace Santal 33 because nobody should ever have to smell that

Have you guys ordered from https://www.luckyscent.com/ before?

>>17181427
PR is an interesting one. Mentholated cola patch.

>>17181845
it looks like shit now. you'd have to fill the left side with something. maybe some more leather?
I think Antaeus should go in there, seeing how often it's discussed on /frag/

also, I think Fahrenheit should be one of the 9 starter frags, with other leathers branching out from it (including ganymede, which would lead to Bois Imperial). it doesn't make sense to make the whole leather category branch out from two niche frags (one of which doesn't even have any leather) that you have to sample online. meanwhile, Fahrenheit is not only famous and kind of a must-try, but also is readily available at any fragrance store

>>17181864
Yes, what would you like to know?

>>17181845
Cringe. This is exactly why nobody should come here for advice.

>>17181901
>>17181845
I will never fully understand doing this kind of advice. Frags are so subjective, not only do everyone like different scents, frags also smell different depending on whos skin it is on.
This thread has taught me one thing and that is to always sample before buying.

>>17181845
Based, dont listen to people trying to discourage you. However >>17181882 is right about Fahrenheit

>>17181476
how does she know what an old man’s armpit smells like

>>17181845
>bois imperial
What a fucking joke of a flowchart

>>17181935
kek, when a thread meme becomes so overused people start putting it in guides

>>17181937
>>17181935
You can dislike it but it’s probably the single most popular fragrance that is native to this thread in its history. There are much worse fragrances on the flowchart already anyways. You will never satisfy everyone I guess

>>17181845
Big props for putting Acqua di Sale there. Marine/aquatic fragrance genre was non present on the previous version. Maybe add a few more arrows from PR?

>>17179969
>mancera bois edp
aventus clone with better performance
>hugo boss nr.1
toilet cleaner scent, literal piss soap
>man in black BVG
herbal disgusting throat medicine
>stronger with you
sweet unisex chewing gum
>dior home intense
vomit inducer,if you hate women or people in general spray this frag
>azzaro wanted by night
just like stronger with you but stronger
>dg light blue
generic summer frag
>montale wood spices
unisex ,mostly for women,old women

thank me later

>>17181962
What is it about DHI that makes sweaty neckbears seethe so hard?

>>17181956
Just replace Black with Fahrenheit and move BI under TdH, and Ganymede somewhere around Ormonde Man. And honestly though, the fact that Aventus, Bleu de Chanel, Sauvage and Acqua di Gio aren’t on the chart exposes the underlying truth that it is a flowchart for retards

>>17181745
YSL La Nuit de L’homme
D&G The One EDP
Jazz Club (maybe)

I recommend them in that order. the YSL is going to project more than D&G but The One has a hypnotic effect on me.

>>17181966
> And honestly though, the fact that Aventus, Bleu de Chanel, Sauvage and Acqua di Gio aren’t on the chart exposes the underlying truth that it is a flowchart for retards
It was the point of it, wasn’t it? What’s the point of putting up there recommendations that any SA in Sephora, YouTuber and countless other cunts will make? I always was thinking of it as the first step to go beyond these obvious recommendation and Christmas-gift core and not tell people blockbusters like Sauvage, BdC or Acqua di Gio (literally the most popular fragrance in the world)

guess what frag hes talking about

>>17181974
Also, all of these are going to be cheaper than Sauvage so not sure why you chose it as a “budget” love potion.

Also Acqua Di Gio Profumo could be a good option

>>17181956
personally I don't like Bois Imperial all that much and I don't like how a few anons are forcing it down everyone's throats
that being said, I don't mind it being on the chart. It definitely shouldn't be a starting frag though, it's not a good starter frag for the leather category. it's impossible to find in most IRL frag stores to try out and the only frag branching out from it is Ganymede? that's even harder for a newbie to get his nose on
the starter should be Fahrenheit or Ombre Leather. possibly CH men, but definitely not a niche fragrance with no leather

>>17181975
Not who you’re replying to but the flowchat is too advanced for beginners because the average person isn’t going to be able sample/smell 1/10th of that chart in person. So if you expect a nose neophyte to associate descriptions with smells they’ll need to pay out of pocket just to sample from it’s going to instantly bankrupt a beginner budget.

The best thing a new person can do is go to Nordstroms or Ulta and smell all the designers and corporate niches, let them buy a few of those, then go into the deep end. There should be a beginner and advanced flowchart.

>>17181964
not a neckbeard. It literally smells like garbage juice ,no offence

>>17181964
Seethe? Neckbeards love DHI

>>17181652
La Liturgie des Heures

>>17181992
> Nordstroms or Ulta
Literally half of fragrances on the chart seem to be available in these. For this reason I would also put Fahrenheit first instead of BI. Availability should be a big criterion for choosing what to include.

>>17181992
> the average person isn’t going to be able sample/smell 1/10th of that chart in person
Where the fuck do you live people? I live in a midsized UK town and from top of my head have seen all these fragrances available in person. Those who live in actual metropolises should be easily able to sample 80% of these in person if not more (I’m thinking of London for example).

>>17181981
oh i saw this earlier, on like 20 different frags, he just gives out ratings with no commentary

>>17181995
>>17181993
I suggest you take a good long look at yourself, that is the only way you can realise how far you have fallen.

>>17182003
I live in San Diego so not even a small town and I’ve only seen a fraction of what you’ve checked off there.

>>17181998
Are you joking? Ulta is strictly designer and it’s not even a huge amount.

Nordstroms, at least the two I’ve been to have more designer, as well as almost all Tom Ford, parfums de marly, Creeds, and a few random indies/niches, but that chart doesnt even have a single PDM or Creed when they’re the most accessible niches. Even Neiman Marcus which is supposed to be the bougiest ever only has Tom Ford and a small collection of designer. Bloomingdales has all the same designers as Nordstroms.

>>17182003
>Serge Lutens
>Le Labo
>Diptyque
>Frederic Malle
>Eccentric Molecules
>Acqua di Parma
>Penhaligons
>Guerlain
None of these are available near where i live, and i live near one of the biggest shopping centres in Denmark that isnt Copenhagen

Recent purchases.

>>17182036
Does that top one smell like donuts

>>17182015
sir,i smell perfumes for a living

>>17181845
if you are trying to cater to noobs I think you should start with "basic" designer frags (mostly normie-friendly) and leave the niche ones for the extremes of the chart (assuming it's read from the centre outwards)

>>17182043
exactly

this is what my mother wears

>>17182029
> but that chart doesnt even have a single PDM or Creed when they’re the most accessible niches
Oh god sometimes I miss the masstigefag and his autism

>>17181937

Well, yes that’s generally how it works. People seem to really enjoy it right now, myself included probably because it’s so warm and it performs really well in the heat. My bottle is arriving tomorrow.

>>17182036
what's the name of the cock ring bottle?

>>17182085
Bijan men.

>>17181992
disagree. most of the frags on the flowchart are easy to try IRL, I did it myself

>>17182034
that's weird, I live in fucking Poland and I've seen most of these in IRL stores, except for le labo, frederic malle and dyptique
acqua di parma and serge lutens I've even seen at a Sephora, the rest should be easy to find in any "niche" frag store

>>17182096
Yeah I’m also confused. That’s what I actually liked about this chart when I was starting: I didn’t have to splurge money on samples. Sales Assistants in my local Sephora and department stores hated me but I didn’t give a fuck

>>17182096
Hello Polski bro. Same. I actually have seen all but 8 chart fragrances (but maybe haven’t looked closely enough) available in Warsaw. USA seems like a fragrance shithole in comparison kek

Who tf wants to smell like pencil shavings

>>17182117
you would be surprised

>>17182117
I want to smell like pencil shavings.

>>17182043
What’s your opinion of Guerlain vetiver, guerlain heritage, and Guerlain habit rouge?

>>17182112
I should’ve circled The Different Company too - it’s available in Galilu.
Checked the other chart and cast majority also seems to be available here IRL. And those that are not like Zootopian can be sampled cheaply ($2 per sample) from Lulua and other places. Poland seems like a fragrance heaven lol

Recommend me a winter frag for events, dinners and professional scenarios please.

>>17182112
So after sampling so many you must know that the flowchart is the love child of a deranged homosexual who prefers to smell like an old woman with a piss filled adult diaper. It’s reads like some kind of psyop to make people feel anxious about their sense of smell.

>>17179969
Jeremy vs Michella

https://youtu.be/qikdsyUCoNc

>>17182132
I haven’t smelled all of them (maybe like 50%) - just what I have seen in different shops. Most of the reccs were pretty good and opened my eyes to different “styles”. Some were dated but you’re too dramatic

>>17182132
Do you like anything? Bois Imperial?

>>17180621
Dunno why some faggots consider to choose from Comme des Garçons
when they nose can only process pleasent stuff.
Cdg is my go to brand for specific weird smells. My recent discovery is Blackpepper, freshly cracked peppercorns, sharp and fresh, dries down to Wonderwood.
Either way Garage, Tar, Kyoto, Hinoki, Radish x Vetiver, Avignon are heavy hitters.

>>17182132
It's someone's favorite scents, a personal collection of sorts.

>>17182146
oh I love the smell of hinoki wood chips

>>17182127
>>17182112
>>17182096
You guys a lucky. Local stores here either only sell designers, or they sell extremely popular niches like parfums de marly

Any anons reccomend really clean smell? I want to smell like I’m completely sterile, like when you are at the dentist/hospital. I would try Odeur 53 but i heard that the performance is shit.

Revisited my sample of Ganymede today and the dry down convinced me to buy a bottle of Bois imperial. Where are US buyers buying their bottles?

>>17182158
BR 540 and Caron l’anarchist remind me of the dentist. I like the caron much better

>>17182164
Good choice. Welcome to the club

>>17182117
Molecule 01 forever, nerd.

>>17182167
Guess I should order a discovery set and use the voucher. I don’t think I’ll find it for less than $75 anywhere

I literally live in fucking Paris and I have never worn perfume

>>17182191
smelly french person, nothing new

>>17182191
>french
checks out

>>17182186
lucky scent. code full bottle. got mine for 58 + 8 shipping

>>17182212
Thanks fren

>>17182212
also 3 free samples with that

>>17182206
>>17182196
lmao
that aside I wonder what shops I should hit first

>>17182212
What’s the promo code? I tried using “full bottle” but it didn’t work

>>17182224
just messing with ya of course, love french tourists you guys are chill. I would suggest starting out with some simple designers. They are mass appealing and a good base before getting into niches. Go to any local stores and just ask if you can try out the perfumes and theyll happily help you out.

>>17182224
Sauvage

>>17182212
>>17182217
Wtf, lucky bastards. I would stock up on BI for years at these prices…

>>17182244
If he can get me that code I’ll blind buy two bottles

>>17182245
Code is FULLBOTTLE. you may need to buy a sample first though. You can just buy one and use code NEWFRIENDS for free shipping

>>17182224
start with the flowchart under OP and go from there

>>17182145
BI is an ordinary fresh/wood. I have the essential Parfums sample pack and it’s probably the most enjoyable fragrance from them. It’s plain. Imagine Terre d’Hermes without the citrus or an inferior clone of Dior Homme 2020. I wouldn’t be interested in a whole bottle.

>>17181966
I support this. BI belongs somewhere on the bottom right. It's not very good as a genre-defining frag. In general I feel like BI would do better in the chart than in the flowchart.

>>17182268
My man. Ordering a sample with newfriends code. Fullbottle code said ineligible buyer or something. So should work after buying the sample I suppose.

>>17182290
Any other samples I should order from lucky? I have Bois imperial and sel Marin

>>17182274
Alright I guess I should go into the shop with the list and ask to smell them all

>black pepper
>blood orange
>cedarwood
>cypress
>bergamot
>lavender

would this be too busy?

>>17182299
What's top, mid and base?

>>17182302

top- blood orange, bergamot, black pepper
mid- cedar, cypress
bottom- lavender

There's plenty of room to fiddle with things, though.

>>17182299
buddy you made Sauvage with cypress

>>17182316
excellent

>>17182293
New York intense

>>17182290
yeah it definitely will work

>>17182287
its way brighter than those two fragrances

>>17182341
Yes, It does smell worse

question on luck scent samples:
what type of container is used for the different sized samples (0.7, 1.5, 2)ml?
are they all just in those shitty vials with the plastic cap that has a little stick attached to it? the ones where you pull open the cap and half the contents spill all over your fingers?

their photo and description is garbage.

>>17182349
Has better performance than both. DH2020 only smells good for like an hour. TDH I like, but I like BI more

>>17182350
they only have .7 and they're the plastic cap ones.

>>17182349
You’re a noselet. Leave niche fragrances like BI for people who actually have some taste

>>17182372
I thought BI was a le epic mass pleaser for people who jUsT wAnT tO sMeLl GoOd, not an acquired taste for niche noses... which one is it then?

>>17182429
It is both. Now go back to r/fragrance to tap about your mediocre designer releases

>>17182429
It’s both obviously but pointing that out isn’t very conductive to a discussion because there are other fragrances that also smell good.

>>17182429
Bois Impérial fill all blanks, it's niche, complex and mass pleasing

>>17182439
But Bois Impérial does the job like no other. Especially as a niche in the woody genre, Bois Imperial has exactly the right balance between the notes.
Terre de Hermes was ruined by too much orange for example.

Caronbro, I have had the chance to try Guerlain Vetiver. I the vetiver smells like it should I believe, but I didn't quite like the opening. Yet, the drydown is when this frag shines, was surprised by how good It evolved. Respectable fragrance.

The CW in that store smelled soooo different and stronger than any CW I have ever tried before, the dry down was the same but longer lasting, the intro was greener and stronger than usual. I wonder if it was cause the juice is new or the opposite.

Our Wood is confirmed great on skin, okay performance.

Kouros drydown is alright after a while, I think I will just move it to dislike, I was too harsh. It stills smells like a very old woman frag to me, something from the 60ies maybe.

Tried Narciso Rodroguez blue noir edt and edp. The edp is your generic sweetish acquatic, good performance, big skip, the edt was a little better. Still nothing worth a buy imo.

Tried many Acqua di Parma frags as I'm finally back home where they are available. ADP is the best frag brand I have smelled so far for, they smell refined and expensive, and NEVER synthetic, extremely natural smelling. Colonia is the quintess cologne, not my thing though. the rose and magnolia ones are great. bergamotto di calabria is the best citrus frag ever, no contest. but the performance is questionable, 6 sprays were very light. Will have to test it again cause that scent was formidable.
>>17180961
Bvlgari aqua is not that citrusy to me, generic aquatic. Go for ADG edt imo.

>>17182429
BI is pretty mediocre, to be honest. Almost boring. Not aquatic level boring, but boring in a two-dimensional way.

>>17182490
Yes I also prefer fragrances that are really exciting and have multiple dimensions. I also enjoy sniffing my own farts.

>>17182435
>>17182439
>>17182453
Give him a break. You’re talking with a guy who is impressed by TdH while can’t see what’s the trick with BI at the same time. It’s almost like trying to have a nuanced discussion about cars with a guy who thinks bigger wheels=better and talks about tractors kek. There’s a reason why Ganymede, BI older brother was a finalist an winner of multiple niche awards and competitions

>>17182429
unironically both

should I just blind buy as a total beginner this BI that everyone is talking about

>>17182546
Ah yes, the "trick" of Bois Imperial. A new synthetic molecule and nothing else, except for some basil/pepper in the opening. What a trick.

>>17182565
you should never blind buy anything. plus you need to buy a sample from lucky scent for the 20 dollars off.

>>17182565
As a total beginner, you should blind-buy a full bottle of "Creed Aventus" straight from their website. Aventus is still the #1 dumb reach daily driver beast mode max compliment getter.

>>17182429
Not adding anything new with my reply but can confirm that it’s both. Bois Imperial is basically like a “nichefag Sauvage”. I typically wear niche but I understand fully that when I do it, I do it for myself. BI is a great fragrance when you need something crowdpleasing that isn’t boring ambroxan normie shower gel fragrance while at the same time it is still a niche-tier fragrance that I can enjoy myself.

>>17182570
>A new synthetic molecule and nothing else
That’s why people call you a noselet

>>17182565
I did and it turned out to work great for me but you should rather sample/buy a travel spray of it first. It’s not expensive and imo a rather safe, hard to hate blind buy but stay on the safe side if it can save you these few bucks at the end of the day

>>17182577
>>17182570
>>17182429
Big feminine, passive-aggressive from this posts. Take it easy boyos, it’s just a smelly water

>>17182588
I've never been called that.

>>17182570
If you can’t see how differently from TdH Bois Imperial explores the vetiver note then you’re a lost case. BI is like a symphonic orchestra with the patch, aromatic, fresh and (yes, sterile almost synthetic, perhaps bug-sprayish for some) akigalawood note vs. TdH that would be a village band in comparison.

>>17182578
VERY impressive collection

>>17182619
This.

>>17182578
NYI and LDDM are one of very few 5/5 stars given by Luca Turin in his guide (and also my favs). Do you personally think that he would rate BI as 5/5, too?

>>17182619
yeah bug spray sounds accurate
peppered bug spray, later bug spray

>>17182634
>>17182619
Funny how differently people can smell the same thing.

>>17182600
Whoa there, take it down a notch. I’m detecting some passive-agression in your post, buddy.

>>17182632
Not sure if he would award it 5/5 as Turin is famously whimsical with his top choices but I believe that he’d surely rate it as 4/5 in a parallel to another Bisch’s seemingly simple but masterful exploration of a single accord: Attaquer he composed for ELDO where he bases everything around green labdanum. You can imagine rewriting this review almost by verbatim for BI but with focus on fresh-aromatic woods instead of green labdanum.
> Attaquer le Soleil Marquis de Sade (Etat Libre d’Orange) **** green labdanum
>Perfumer Quentin Bisch claims that this fragrance was done to address his prejudice against cistus, a.k.a. labdanum or the resin of the rockrose, a sort of exposure therapy for a workplace phobia. He’s done it with a harmony of green and resinous tones true to the material but extra, with the strong rich smells of paint and glue that some of us frankly find better than roses. It ties together the animalic, the mineral and the vegetal in one huge eerie accord that feels like the final answer to a medieval theological question.

>>17182036
Hey im wearing bijan man today. I got a vintage a few years ago off ebay. This stuff is extremely potent, really lives up to the 80s powerhouse cliche. I don't wear it often but it's fun when i do

Can anyone recommend a good fragrance for the summer? I don't really care how much it costs or if its designer or niche. I just need something. The only thing I got that I can even use in this weather is the old Y EDT

>>17182638
It's a weird fragrance with no real reference point to compare it to.

This, but more "hospital" scent and better longevity.

>>17182735
>This, but more "hospital" scent and better longevity.
Sorry, I mean, any fragrances like this but with more sterility and longevity ?

>>17182735
>more hospital

Why do you want to smell like shit, blood, alcohol and ammonia?

>>17182650
nta
i also have bijan (new version) and actually longevity is very weak, but scent is actually quite interesting and complex, despite looking a bit cheap, lets say its not guerlain tier but still like it
sometimes smells like earth, sometimes like cig smoke, sometimes leather with oranges

i've been messaging people on fragrantica for trades. please tell me which offer i should take!

first offer:
1 50ml bottle of Hugo Boss the collection Velvet and Amber

secodn offer:
100ml of Botanicae En Route (similar to aventus)
100ml of Byblos September morn

in both instances i will be trading the same thing (30ml of xerjoff mefisto), so I feel like i will be happy with my trade either way

>>17182646
> I have made the worst mistake of my life. I’m wearing about 25 sprays of Bois Imperial. My nose is on fire. I could've done anything else. I could've licked shit out of a donkey's asshole that had just eaten taco bell. I could've sucked Dan Schneider's dick. I could've had my dog lick peanut butter off my dick. What I have smelled is fucking uncanny. Do not believe ANYBODY that is defending this shit of a fragrance. This cologne is the aromatic equivalent of child sex trafficking. I cannot begin to describe the smell. I am going to read the Quran for about 29 hours straight.

>>17182191
Pédé de parigot

anyone know where I can get Robert piguet casbah in the us?

>>17182619
tl;dr "it smells like varnished wood in a boring, linear way"
I don't even know if you guys are trolling with the ridiculous over the top praise or not anymore. "symphonic orchestra"? jesus...

>>17182746
September morn sounds damn good

>>17182158
>dentist
Serge Lutens Dent de Lait is meant to smell like a child losing their milk teeth, don't ask me how that's supposed to smell like, because I haven't sampled it myself, but some reviews describe it as a metallic, very clean, somewhat sterile scent, still pleasant enough to be wearable though.
>but i heard that the performance is shit
That might be a problem considering what you're looking for, a clean and "sterile" scent is by nature not very powerful, as that would really go against common sense. How could a fragrance scream and say "Look at me, I smell like... nothing at all?". Some frags are quite good at imitating fresh laundry, maybe that would satisfy you, just look for notes on fragrantica.

>>17182806
>You are witnessing sixteen Americans begin an adventure that will forever change their lives. They've been given two bottles of Bois Imperial plus whatever they can off this boat [Castaways continue scrambling around the ship for supplies and releasing their rafts]. Their destination: this island right here [Points at the island of Pulau Tiga; cuts to a wide shot of the island followed by a montage of deadly animals that live on the island.], a beautiful, but dangerous jungle in the middle of the South Asian Sea [Castaways begin to jump off the ship and to their rafts.]. For the next 39 days, they'll be marooned, left to fend for themselves, forced to wear Bois Imperial. They are wiping the slate clean. Sixteen strangers forced to band together to carve out a new existence, totally accountable for their actions. They must learn to adapt, or they're voted off. In the end, only one will remain and will leave the island with one million bottles of Bois Imperial as their reward. 39 days, 16 people, 1 survivor!" - Quentin Bisch (explaining the game)

>>17182783
Literally on the official website https://www.robertpiguetparfums.com/products/casbah-eau-de-parfum

>>17182328
Already have a sample of it, I like vintage Guerlain heritage better. I love the Mysore sandalwood base. However, your post convinced me to wear my sample of nyi again tomorrow.
>>17182478
Hey samplebro, glad you tried Guerlain vetiver and appreciated it even if it’s not for you. I also like adp for the most part. I considered buying a full bottle of the original, like the leather, but very much dislike the oud. It has a harsh synthetic note in it. I’ll have to sample the bdc and see how it is.
>>17182632
What are his other 5/5? I think I’ve read he likes guerlain shalimar parfum and Caron yatagan. Is his nose that good?
>>17182337
Thanks. I also wanted to follow up on my Ganymede wearing. It smells like a magazine and sterile and I can still smell it strongly after more than 12 hours. The only other fragrance that does this for me is oud minerale, but it gets annoying to me after some hours. I like ganymede but wouldn’t pay the Ganymede prices for it. I also have to see if the singular scent will annoy me after repeat wearings like oud minerale does. As a lover of vetiver I think Bois imperial will be good for me. I’m excited to sample it.

I keep coming back to this one to marvel at how shit it is.

>See a frag that might be good
>it’s made by Alberto Morillas

>>17183028
Its not good

>>17182741
no kink shaming please
>>17182763
>This cologne is the aromatic equivalent of child sex trafficking
bruh,how would you describe that smell? interested. Like sweat and bubble gum?
I need to real the bible and quran at the same time now
>>17182806
it's a meme,go with it

Just got this and it tastes like some hard cola candy I had as a kid. Longevity is too much

>>17183247
>tastes
anon you do know how to apply fragrances right...

>>17183278
Minor stroke my bad

>>17183247
nigga you're not supposed to eat it

>>17182706
Sauvage

>>17182741
I never said I wanted to smell like this, I said I wanted to smell sterile, that’s the opposite of dirty. Have you ever actually been in a hospital? Maybe hospitals smell like this in where you live if you live in a third world country.
>>17182735
Thanks I will look into it

Bleach is sterile bro

>>17183028
Ok Quentin

>>17183346
What’s your point?

>>17183352
try bleach,best frag

>>17183357
What triggered you exactly?

I can't tell if I've become noseblind or if my frag has bad longevity

>>17183359
BI shills

BI sample arriving today or tomorrow

>>17183363
In the 80s I'd have said noseblind, but nowadays, it's probably bad longevity. You can try a single spray and see if it "reappears" during the day (it probably won't), or you can try 40 sprays and see if you're actually going noseblind.

>>17183365
Understandable. The BI shills convinced me to blindbuy a full bottle, it’s arriving today.

>>17183363
Maybe your‘re noseblind from spraying a lot directly under your nose. Its become to become noseblind instantly if you sniff a fragrance really hard up close. I made this mistake when sampling YSL la nuit de l‘homme. I know it vaguely smells like cardamom and washing detergent for me.

I always test how strong a fragrance is by spraying it on my wrist, if I can’t smell it, nobody else can.

I regret having bought tdh

thougt i liked it with the samples but now i'm just sick of it

>>17183390
maybe you just need to take a break from it?

>>17183398
nah i'm putting it on rarely now but it's always unnerving

Based BI shills making young anons have sex.

>>17183419
why the local crackwhore?

>>17183420
How salty are you? Tell me your top5 frags so we can compare how they stand against BI

>>17183425
xerjoff naxos
bohemian lime
code absolu
wanted by night
Fougere D'argent

>>17183433
>code absolu
>wanted by night
a-are those frags women actually like that don't smell like ikea furniture?
no, this can't be, bois imperial bros... we got too cocky noooo

>>17183441
wanted by night smells like ikea furniture?
where? in what country? i've been there 4 days ago,nothing was even remotely close to that scent. I think you don't even know how it smells but wanted to shit on it

>>17183447
You need to brush up on your reading comprehension. Also check yo self before yo wreck yourself.

>>17183451
Well, your english is clearly pure trash in that case, get an online course at least if you want others to understand your mongoloid thoughts and please continue to wear cat piss fr fr

>>17183447
>>17183460
What the fuck are you on about, there was nothing unclear about his post yet you managed to misunderstand it completely

>>17183385
I spray on the sides of the neck and behind the neck

>redoing the charts solely to include a mediocre frag that is literally being shilled by a samefagging spammer
And like that this general dies

>>17183460
Well that amuses me, the irony of this indictment being that I probably have a better command of the English language than you do, despite it being my second language. Yes, I do as a matter of fact quite enjoy Bois Imperial among other fragrances. I find it rather spiffing. Tally-ho old chap! By the way, if you can’t tell, I’m being facetious, but I wouldn’t expect that you know what that word meant.

>>17183363
If you use the same fragrances often I'd say "nose blind". Often when I use a new frag for the first time it feels like I'm filling the whole room or bus or whatever, happened with h24 and platinum egoiste for example. Then next time I've gotten pretty used to it.

Which fragrance will help me get laid? I don’t want to be unique or special. I just want SEX

>>17183465
>A-are those frags women actually like that don't smell like ikea furniture?
This is not a coherent sentence.

>>17183508
Yes it is, I understood it and you understood it too.

New Thread:
>>17183547
>>17183547
>>17183547

>>17183506
Sauvage edt

>>17183559
Yes. It s really good.
Wore it yesterday to the court. Won the case.
All the people around me there were women, including the judge.
The sued side's lawyer was all over me before and after the court room.
Today got the reimbursement from the sued side.
I love Sauvage EDT.

Is L’Homme Ideal Guerlain EDT good for regular guys. I don't want to smell like a faggot.

>>17181476
>fagsmut
:/