/fa/ - Fashion

>>17153821
>G&G
more like gay and gayer

i like the frankenstitch

>>17153826
ok

I always see the Harlech in whiskey shell
This one is different.

I prefer whiskey shell.

>>17153821
still dont understand why youd fuck up shell like that

>>17152863
>>17152887
How am I supposed to measure myself if not with a ruler

>>17153867
put a piece of A4 paper against a wall
put your foot on the paper with the heel touching the wall
draw a line around it while wearing your normal socks and holding the pen totally vertical (this is the part retards get wrong)
then measure your longest and widest points

easier to have someone else do the pen thing around your feet while your stand straight up

measure both feet

>>17153837
Agreed. If you want texture go for a leather with naturally occurring texture like russian reindeer, kudu, kangaroo, etc

https://youtu.be/Uoaibbtdysc

>>17153867
With a brannock device

>>17153821
Reposting from the western wear thread:
what do you think of Ropers?

>>17153932
It’s sucks not all manufacturers follow branock’s system for shoe sizing, but it’s the best we got.

>>17153938
Like engineers without the strap

>>17153938
I like them.

>>17153938
Sounds and looks like something you'd wear at a bdsm club.

>>17153873
>a piece of A4 paper
you need bigger paper desu

>>17154152
I'm EU 44 and it fits on A4
How tall are you

>>17153938
More comfortable for walking than a full cowboy boot.

>>17154199
How are they different to a cowboy boot

>>17154152
Fucking add another paper and it's twice the length.

>>17154207
Cowboy boots are made for riding in a saddle, the heel is higher and canted forward for digging in to the ground and pulling on something. They have smooth leather bottoms, like a dance shoe, and are not comfortable to walk in all day, in my exp.
Ropers are for being on the ground, rather than in a saddle.

>>17154185
11 and my toes get too close to the end

>>17154268
now he needs tape

Reposting from previous thread

Anyone have experience with Caulaincourt? They're a French brand. I'm really tempted by their Balmoral button boots, and since the Dollar and Euro are basically at parity, now would be a good time to get them.

https://www.caulaincourt.paris/en/produit/shoes/boots/gatsby-black/?v=7516fd43adaa

>>17154382
Some of the best button boots on the market. Go for it.

>>17154382
Most of their shoes being blake stitched and the existence of this photo on their website makes me doubt the brand in general.

>>17154411

>>17154207
Lower heel, lower shaft, toe usually less sharp.

>>17154411
ut looks like sticking your foot in a yam

>>17154411
Those boots are Goodyear welted. Tbh Blake stitch makes sense for some dress shoes since it's faster, cheaper, less bulky,, and you're not typically going to be using them in situations where a Goodyear welt would provide a significant advantage. For most boots in /btg/, a Goodyear is warranted due to the higher durability, but for dress shoes or hoots that doesn't really apply as much

>>17154725
>I want a direct channel from the outsole to the insole to allow water to ingress
Blake a shit

>>17154765
believe me or not but it's very difficult for water to get inside even with the blake stich

>>17154859
Nice try Blake

>>17154872
I wore blake stich shoes in the rain and water didn't get through, so blake stich can survive humid terrain and some puddles, as long as you don't soak your sole it shouldn't be a problem.

Anyone own some Tricker's boots? I want to know if they're good so I can have a winter dress shoe. I have to walk 5 blocks to work. Are they good?

>>17154886
couple anons posted theirs last thread

>>17154725
Soles still wear on dress shoes. A lot of dress shoes have leather soles that wear quicker than your average boot. Goodyear welting is much preferred for most dress shoes, since dryness increases long-term durability and due to the easy access and affordability of resoling services.

>>17154879
Why have to worry about moisture at all when you can just have a Goodyear welted shoe?

>>17154902
>the easy access and affordability of resoling services
wat

>>17154907
Need a specialized Blake stitch machine to resole them

Dainite sole or the half lug commando for whites mp boots? What did you guys go with and why?

>>17154962
Half lug. You get an additional midsole and the compound they use is soft but durable. Plus you get an uninterrupted heel which look better

>>17154903
gyw shoes cost a little bit more that's why my first shoes were blake stiched, also blake stiching is fine for summer shoes altho my summer loafers are gyw lol
It's just the cost, there is no reason to get a blake stich over a goodyear welt also modern welts aren't even that bulky and the welt actually prevents the upper from bumping into stuff which is a big plus.
gyw and stichdown is just superior but not everyone can afford them, for a gyw shoe you can buy two blake shoes.

>>17154988
True. With cheaper shoes, you might not even get them resoled once you realize you can buy the same same shoe for cheaper used. In that case, a Blake stitch is alright. It looks cleaner, and I think it makes loafers look better.

>>17154962
are dainite soles good at all?

>>17155006
No

>>17155006
They’re pretty good

>>17154962
Bought MPs on Baker's last sale ago. I went with the half lug commando. Seemed more fitting to go alongside the already robust build of the boot compared to the dainite. Plus I think it just looks better.

>>17155016
Agreed. Commando over dainite any day.

>>17154962
If you use Baker's build a boot you can get a third option. The Vibram 430 mini

>>17155030
is the half lug commando softer than the Vibram 430 mini?
I have IRs, and the 430 sole is a just a smidge too clicky-clacky for my preference when walking on hard flat floors.

>>17155033
The mini will clack as much they're made of the same material

>>17155030
Which is better for snow/ice between the vibram 430 and the commando mini lug?

>>17153821
any lower to middle brand Chelsea recs?
Been eyeing some calvin kleins, no real preference other than black and a durable sole

>>17155046
k, good to know

>>17154962
I went with the commando. I like the look of the Dainite more but I was worried about traction when I ride my motorcycle in inclement weather.

>>17154962
danite studded is for when you want to attempt suicide on wet tile
its a nice firm rubber though

>>17155071
>lower to middle brand Chelsea recs?
becket simonon with toppys?
astorflex bitflex?

>>17155071
Buy from an actual shoemaker that uses real leather...

>>17153881
>russian reindeer
not naturally occuring
>kudu
depends, the picture you posted is an emboss

>>17154765
You know close channel is a thing for blake stitch shoes too right?

>>17153881
>kangaroo
Have you not seen smooth kangaroo leather?

>>17155071
don't buy boots from a high street fashion brand

>>17155341
Swedish reindeer

Is there any place in Europe that actually has the paramemes in stock? Can't find them anywhere.

>>17155428
https://forcesuniformandkit.co.uk/collections/boots-and-shoes/products/austrian-lightweight-combat-boots

>>17155407
Exactly, do you see any hatching on it?
The generic grainy texture is not so dissimilar to a bison or an old bull

>>17155341
>depends
as long as you dont her h*rween ""kudu"" you'll get a natural pattern

>>17155484
See the "Classic Kudu", that's one of the most natural Kudu tannages out there. The grain is mild. If nobody said anything, you would think it's bovine

Ordered pic related. Not really "boots" I guess. Anyway, also thinking of getting a pair of NST boots, Heschung ginkgo more precisely. Meermin's availability and QC seems a bit so-so. Other options that aren't $1000?

>>17155523
>thinking of getting a pair of NST boots
GRANT STONE

>>17155345
>He thinks the closed channelled glue will save him
lol

>>17155574
The moisture transfer through the threads, which goes from the sole to the insole.
When the threads are covered, they will be better protected from moisture.

>>17155630
>covered by 1-2mm of leather
stop it man this is embarrassing

hot take: blake rapid

Parkhurst uses cork

hey bots, what are some black dress boots sans cap

>>17155669
Are you thinking of a wholecut?

How did people in the early 20th century keep wearing leather shoes and suits without paved roads, easy laundry or deodorant?

Maintaining leather dress shoes is already painful for me and I'm in a carpeted office already. Somehow every time I come home I see a new scuff that needs to be polished.
I think it must be the car's pedals that do it.

>>17155669
Carmina makes great dress boots in Europe
TLB is a bit better quality for the same price and their MTOs are cheap and made in 2 weeks (instead of 4 months). But TLB does not have even 1/10th of the variety and options that Carmina does.

>>17155717
youd go to the show shine stand near your office at lunch time

Finally got into “western” boots. Had to buy these silly zip up Tecovas since they’re part of matching groomsmen outfits. The quality is mediocre and the calfskin is too soft/poorly clicked. I do however want to get a real pair of cowboy boots. Any one have experience with Lucchese?

a sale

:(

who /clomp/ here

So Edward Green now cements their rubber soles.
It's a goodyear welt construction otherwise, and the midsole is stitched. But then the rubber sole is just cemented on that.

Is this acceptable on $1500 shoes?

>>17155904
No

>>17155904
that's a yikes from me dawg. What's the 94%? Their markup?

>>17155644
Oh, you mean that boot company that doesn’t make any boots?

>>17156029
They claim to use the highest quality leathers which is why their shoes are almost crease-proof.

This is supposedly a 10-year old pair of EG boots.

>>17155636
The moisture problem of blake stitch is honestly overblown.
Go out, touch grass, wear shoes.

>>17156068
At least my feet will be dry unlike yours

>>17155523
Alden

>>17156075
I live in a tropical place. My first shoes were Blake stitch, worn through wet pavement and concrete. They were even open channel. They last fine, I didn't get wet feet. The insole, when left to dry properly, didn't get mold.

Stop letting bloggers boogeyman you, anon.

>>17156156
You sound like a coping faggot, trying to justify their experience. You live in a tropical place, you stupid nigger monkey. You don't live in wet and cold environments, where shoes are simply destroyed from the weather alone. They may last long for you, but they will not last in others. Stop being a nigger, speaking to others with 'anon' as if you and him are buddy-buddy. You're a stupid reddit nigger that is incapable of understanding that people live in different worlds than you, and thus have different experiences to yours. Kill yourself, immediately.

>>17155771
I have a pair of boots from Lucchese’s cheaper line, the quality was about the same as Tecovas. Lucchese makes it really hard to differentiate between the cheaper line, Classics, and Handmade. I’ve been pretty impressed by the Handmade ones I’ve seen. I recommend Rios of Mercedes over any cowboy boot that’s not bespoke though.

>>17155904
that's acceptable on my $200 florshiems and not a dollar higher

couldn't they use a few nails or pegs
anything?

>>17156037
boots soon™

That's a no from me

Ah yes, the oxford

>>17156254
Did you actually pay that much for them? You can get those for dirt cheap, used, anywhere.

>>17156311
Ah yes, the dubs

What are good boots for tucking pants into? Isthis even acceptable outside dixie, for example?

>>17156352
Shitkickers

>>17156352
Riding boots and tall lace ups.

>>17156299
What, you don't like your boots to look like wrinkly ballsack?

>>17156319
>buying used shoes
I dont have a foot smell fetish
it was on clearance and is chromex so I dont mind. I think it was $184 exactly

>>17156429
There are deodorizer, dude.

>>17155717
They weren't huge faggots who obsessed over every small scuff

>>17156204
Have you ever been through tropical rain anon?
Do you know how moist the air can become?
Isnt it ironic that you accuse me of something you are doing yourself?
Projecting much?
Go touch grass and experience. Staying in your mom basement wont teach you anything.

>>17156254
You can’t peg rubber

>>17156204
If you think in cold, harsh climate, the construction matters more than the leather and sole, you are a literal larping retard.

>>17156473
Nothing destroys more than salt and ice dude

>>17156545
Salt and ice destroy the upper, not necessarily conducting moisture through the stitching under the sole any more severely.
The average le goodyear will get worn through the same.

>>17156553
>salt will destroy uppers made of leather
>but it won't destroy the 1-2mm closed channel on blakes

>>17156478
nails?
staples?
those little wire hooks at hone depot?
fucking something

>>17156261
Prove it Andrew
Where are the black Allens

>>17156642
In order for nails to hold they need to clinch. Manufacturers use clinch nails that forms a hook when it hits the metal last.

You won't be skilled enough or have the equipment to do it properly

>>17155644
DID YOU JUST FUCKING SAY WHAT I THINK YOU FUCKING SAID

>>17156656
>You won't be skilled enough or have the equipment to do it properly
nibba im talking about the manufacturer of $1500 shoes
im sure they can find a last

>>17156204
tropical regions are very wet, bro

>>17156663
Oh it sounded like you were gonna niggerrig it. They probably don't do it cause it'll look less elegant

>>17153821
What's a good pair of black milsurp boots to pick up nowadays? I was looking for austrian meme boots but can't find em anywhere.
Does /fa/ have any recommendations?

>>17156724
don't fall for the milsurp meme

>>17156725
Half of the reason is because it's for a Halloween outfit, but if they're not dogshit I would probably wear them on occasion.

>>17156736
... you're buying a costume in august

Is it true that Allen Edmonds run narrow? Do I have to size up when getting other brands?

>>17156785
Which AE are you referring to? They have 10+ different lasts

why do people call seidel double shot their chromex when its barklike and nothing like chromexcel
the veg retan is unironically closer to chromex in feel

>>17156790
65 last is my only reference

>>17156830
memexcel is shilled so heavily that it's become the standard of"quality"

>>17156883
i suppose but in reality its just so full of bacon grease or whatever that it never needs conditioning
double shot is much stiffer and imo needs more often conditioning
veg retan is like a spongy cloth and feels like it will juust keep rawdogging life for years

>>17156879
65 last is a little narrow especially when they're built with the closed lacings so it's less appropriate for high instep folks

>>17156785
>>17156888
I am an 11.5E on a brannock and wear an 11.5E and the 65 last. I also have a high instep.

>>17156595
> I have never worn shoes outside
The upper will be fucked before you can even worry about the moisture going through the stitching, learn to read frog fag.

What's a good brand for Chelsea boots?

>>17157333
RM Williams

brehs
Andrew said there might be some boots in august

I'm in Seattle right now, gonna be here for about a month. Will most likely drive to Spokane at some point, and will probably visit Nicks.
Anyone ever been there? What's it like? Other bootmakers there to visit?

>>17157889
>>17157889
There are a few stores downtown that get their own regional/limited editions.
Brick + Mortar for Alden
Division Road for Viberg/Whites
Danner Store for Danner/Whites

>>17153821
Hey guys, what type of boots would you recommend with a peacoat? I need one fall and one winter boot. The peacoat is black, I've never really worn one so I don't want to look autistic in College.

>>17158301
Whites

>>17155428
Everybody who wants paramemes should just buy Dr martens 1490.

>>17158301
Or engineers

>>17158334
>buy docs
No

>>17156724
Dr martens 1490. Honestly.

Been eyeing these Norwegian seal fur boots. How do I best care for them, anf what do I style them with?

rose anvil should stick to cutting boots in half instead of designing

>>17158352
>memetuber influencer makes horrible boots
What a surprise

>>17158357
whats worse the rose anvil or the trenton and heath collab

>>17158337
>>17158326
>>Whites

Damn those look sick I'm gonna get me a pair of those. Engineers aren't my style though. I'm a gym guy btw if that helps with the aesthetic.

>some mexican ok'd these
lmao

>>17158392
consider the semi dress model too

>>17153821
Thinking about buying the memes
Anyone know what the sizing is like in those? Preferably someone who owns them.

>>17158334
Docs are reserved for skinheads that can't figure out how to polish boots, women, and gays.

>>17158409
thanks for the tips you have good taste

>>17158352
>>17158369
Why are they both so ugly? Just make a regular boot, it isn’t that hard.

>>17158412
Are those BW army boots? They look familiar. Very comfy once you wear them in.

>>17158521
Yup, feldschuh leicht to be exact. Everybody thinks they are paratrooper boots for some reason even though they are not.

>>17158552
>>17158521
Nevermind, I thought you meant Bundesheer which is the equivalent to the Bundeswehr in Austria.
They are from the austrian army and not the german one.

Talk me out of buying a pair of ranger mocs

>>17158412
They are true to size, 44 eu is 44

>>17158589
one word: memexcel

>>17158689
Ok but doesn't every 'heritage' brand use memexel? And whats the downside in an ultra-casual shoe?

>>17158719
take a look at yuketen's offering. they're much more interesting than rancourt
>And whats the downside in an ultra-casual shoe?
nothing unlined handsewns are the ideal summer footwear

>>17158403
uhmm actually those are the special stridewise x Thursday limited edition captains

>>17158494
it's the classic first time playing with a custom boot maker so I used every option available type boot

>>17158730
>paying gaijin tax for some nip's overdesigned interpretation of American heritage instead of just getting it from the source
These are similar to what you posted, though more tasteful, and seem like they'd be good for F/W with some thick socks. Last pair available and the company is on hiatus. Scarcity mindset is pushing me to cop

>>17158600
Are you sure? Lots of people advice on sizing down by one at least.

>>17154962
I have the dainite and it's fine on everything but ice. it's a slipping nightmare on ice

>>17158352
>>17158369
God what a disaster

>>17153833
Where can I get boots like this?

>>17158811
Crockett and Jones

>>17158748
>MMM
i liked it better when they were NEOC

>>17158403
holy shit you forgot the best part
this was the title

>>17158748
gaijin tax or not yuketen is actively producing while MMM is not

>>17153821
My favorite boots.

I want to get some red wing 866 cos they look similar to UGG boots in a similar colour which I wear at home (which I think look great with jeans lol). But not sure if they would look like a LARP to wear in Australia

>>17158932
condition them you abuser

>>17158403
nice patina bro

>>17158951
Lol is this a bit better

Looking to get these as my one and only's for the Chicago winter. Don't know much about boots — would these be a suitable choice?

https://www.thenobleshoe.com/products/carlos-santos-jumper-boot-in-coimbra-patina

>>17159288
>one and only
get the 350 cutters instead

Hmmmm

what's the difference between "goodyear welted" and "hand welted"?
Isn't it the same just one done by hand and the other by machine?

>>17159216
yeah

>>17159432
goodyear using fabric gemming and that leaves a pocket for c*rk. handwelting stiches through the holdfast which is a channel cut into the insole. usually doesnt require much if any filler before you can apply the midsole

wtf i saw this thread on the front page and thought it would have some cool boots in it but you’re mostly just basedboys??? who the fuck wears brown boots?? the leather quality on most of these looks fucking ass and wouldn’t look out of place in a fucking ironic hipster cosplay. what the fuck is wrong with you people?

>>17159288
>>17159303
It depends on your style, if you wear mostly formal menswear go with the dress boots if you dress more casually, like jeans, go with the work boots.

>>17159605
>the leather quality on most of these looks fucking ass
t. thinks plastic coated leather looks good

new truman pattern

>>17159432
Goodyear welt (today) uses a a piece of fabric rib called the gemming, or canvas rib. The welt is sewn into that canvas rib.
Handwelt uses a holdfast, which needs to be hand carved out from the leather insole. The welt is sewn into the holfast.

You can hand sew the welt into gemming if you want. It still doesnt change the nature of the construction (glue) since you still rely on the gemming. So it's not simply done by hand vs done by machine.

>>17159432
no. a GYW relies on a glued on gemming for the welt. handwelted is when they carve the holdfast directly out of the insole and then sewn directly directly to the welt

pic related is handwelting

>>17159432
and pic related is GYW

is handwelting more flexible/comfy than goodyear welting?

>>17159605
t.

>>17158748
Ended up copping these
>>17158859
>>17158877
The state of American manufacturing is depressing

>>17159432
>>17159760
>>17159762
cont'd

with the addition of the gemming for GYW the height difference is filled in with c*rk which inevitably turn to dust, multiple points of failure including the gemming are introduced in order to speed up the welting process for mass production. GYW is still leagues ahead of other constructions like bl*ke. handwelting is the ultimate in boot construction, however GYW is advertised more

>>17159796
GYW will break in faster than handwelted but long term comfort and durability goes to handwelted

Parkhurst is bringing the green kudu boot back for their next restock.
Convince me to not buy Vibergs this week and wait for the Parkhurst restock in a few months

>>17159605
(You)

>>17159725
it's not awful, i just hate how structured Truman's toes are

>>17159836
People like to meme on cork a lot, but cork is probably the most optimal thing to use as filler.

>Inb4 leather
No, leather is a bad filler

>>17159873
the structuring isnt the issue desu
they almost always use the 79 last which has a fairly tall toe compared to a lot of other brands and then on top of that the owner has a toe cap obsession. i think theyre true cap toes too so that only adds to the bulk
this is on the pretty flat 55 last which they use much less often with no toecap. i think they also offer unstructured as an option on the MTOs

>>17159796
The quality of handwelted shoes can vary greatly due to the quality of leather insole used.

Handwelt shoes, due to the way they are constructed, necessitate thick insole. GYW typically uses thinner insole. Also, your feet sit closer to the sole on Handwelt, due to the void inside being much lower.

Handwelt with good insole will be more flexible and comfortable than GYW at day 1.

Handwelt with shittier insole will be stiff at first but break in eventually.

>>17159881
this one isn't bad. i agree about their toe cap obsession and something about their toe caps is just off to me, i feel like they're a hair too short so the proportions are weird
i would get the last in your pic, is that the 55?
just hate how long the wait is for a pair too

>>17159303
I like the aesthetics of the shoe, but I'm not sure it would be suited towards long winter wear. The leather is water resistant, but it still has a Goodyear welt (vs. Storm Welt) and a fairly low ankle, which still allows some cold and wet to sleep through. It also has a logger heel, which isn't great on flat and wet surfaces, where the majority of my time outside will be spent. It's primarily a work boot, so although the double leather lining helps to slow down the cold coming into the boot, it's also quite heavy.

>>17159890
>is that the 55?
yeah
its a neat last. idk why they dont do more with it
ive noticed theyve started listing a few ready to ship boots but it seems like its just orders that fell through so youd have to get lucky to find the makeup you want in your size

>>17159881
I bet you drink craft beer, vape and own at least one plaid shirt, a pair of suspenders and some selvedge jeans.

>>17159935
>but it still has a Goodyear welt
oh no
whitesfag is gonna freak

>>17159945
>own at least one plaid shirt
i like patterns, sue me

>>17159935
> but it still has a Goodyear welt
its handwelted and will outperform the storm welt (which is just a GYW with an upturned welt)
>a fairly low ankle
your carlos santos is no more than a 6"
>It also has a logger heel, which isn't great on flat and wet surfaces
???
> it's also quite heavy.
heavier is better unless you're soifeet which i suspect you are

>my euro dress boot with a memewelt will be more water resistant than what wildland firefighters the PNW wear
subtle bait/10

EG suede looks so nice and soft

>>17160098
>i NEED extreme water resistance for my office job and sick fits

>>17155523
C&J used to have the Galway 2 (not to be confused with the famous EG Galway boot)

But it has been discontinued. May be able to find it somewhere

>>17160115
is for when youre drowning in pussy but i get why you dont think you need it

Bros all I have had my eyes on are slim, plain toe boots with a sexy last. I pretty much narrowed it down to Viberg and Parkhurst
Parkhurt is perpetually out of stock and even then it's a gamble as they change their designs every release and may not even have a good plain toe
I'm gonna go with Viberg and I've narrowed it down to two choices:
https://viberg.com/products/service-boot-polo-brown-oiled-shoulders
and
https://viberg.com/products/service-boot-2030-oak-chromepak

Of those two which should I get? I like the brown oiled shoulders a lot but the chromepak is interesting and the way chromepak ages is awesome. Also there's the ridgeway vs dainite sole question as well

>>17160115
YES

>>17160139
>viberg
overpriced reddit

>>17160161
tell me you're poor without telling me you're poor
i already own whites and alden, so i don't care i just like nice boots

>>17160164
i too own whites and i think you'll be disappointed with the vibergs like i was

>>17160167
>heels wear down with wear
HOLY SHIT

>>17160139
>Parkhurt is perpetually out of stock
at least wait for the august release(maybe)

>>17160139
I prefer the Chromepak and also Ridgeway > Dainite imho but both are good
I have a pair of plain-toe Kudu 1035 and if you're willing to look past the price they really are nice boots

>>17160168
? picture was taken to show the heel height difference

>>17158412
>>17158600
Except when theyre not lol, the newly made ones are true to size, the older ones run a size large, and when you're buying from a website selling these surplus you have no idea which ones you gonna get

>>17160202
how did you size for the 1035? i am planning half size down for the 2030 but i also like some 1035 designs, i just don't know how to approach sizing

>>17160212
>different brands do different heel heights
NO WAY

>>17160223
Not him but are you autistic

>>17160227
you are the one that is implying there is a universal heel height decided upon by the gods before the world was created and that different brands, with different lasts, different heel styles and different boots all have to have the same heels

>>17160227
he is

>>17160237
take a min to cool off

>>17160222
I'll be honest Anon I guessed with sizing, I'm a 12 but have quite wide feet and read that the 1035 was a wider fit, I got lucky and they fit perfectly
There's quite a good last guide for Viberg on the Division Road website
https://divisionroadinc.com/pages/footwear-guide#viberg

>>17158350
a harpoon

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>>17159836
>c*rk
Get the fuck out.

>>17160311
dont fucking say it
hes listening

god they look even worse than the photos

swedefags what is the best brand/place to buy?

>>17160370
https://www.skolyx.se/en/

>>17159979
>Hand welt outperforms storm welt because...
Source? I was trying to do a comparison on Whites' hand welt water resistance vs a machine welted boot, but most of what I saw just affirmed more durability and comfort on a handwelt. I figured that a storm welt, being an upturned Goodyear, was more suited towards inclement weather.
>The Santos are less than 6"
Still quite a bit higher than the cutters, basically as high you can do without looking like a fireman or goth
>Logger heel
DESU I don't know anything heel performance in snow, so you're probably right there. I just didn't know the effect of a higher heel on balance and all-day comfort of the boot.
>They're heavy, and if you don't like that, you're a basedboi
A shoe's weight should correspond to the work you're doing with it. I'm getting boots for winter business purposes, not for heavy physical labor or hiking. There's really no point in buying a heavy boot to be walking around the office all day. I'm primarily looking for something that can keep my feet dry and relatively warm when I have to go outside; Not a work boot for me to trudge around all day in.

>>17160374
tackar

>>17160365
>influencer youtube channels and shoe cobblers make ugly shitty boots
imagine my shock, damn who saw this coming?

>>17160387
>Source?
if its the choice of wildland parachute firefighters it'll be good enough for you
>Still quite a bit higher than the cutters
the cutters are 6" retard
>I'm getting boots for winter business purposes
>as my one and only's for the Chicago winter
if you're wearing business boots as your one and only i assure you they will not remain nice enough to be business boots. you're better off changing into them in the office

>>17160395
i don't speak arabic

>>17160387
The bead on the storm welt is merely resting on the upper leather. It still inevitably leaves a gap for water to seep through.

The rolled welt that White's uses (this is the real important thing, not Handwelting) is stitched through the upper, making a close connection between the 2. So no gap means water won't seep in.

>>17160370
https://www.skoaktiebolaget.com/

>>17160502
pic to supplement

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>>17153833
Do ppl really wear slim dressier boots like this? What do you wear them with? I feel like all would look better as a regular low top shoe.

I cant picture anyone wearing them besides those 50/60 year olds who LARP as being old fashioned "classy" safari hunter

Only slim boots that seem normal or understandable to me to wear for formal or smart/casual are Chelsea's or side zip ones. Otherwise shouldn't lace up ones be chunkier or more rugged?

>>17160736
Chelsea’s are a lot less formal than dress boots. The lack of laces brings the formality down. Some people like wearing dress boots in jeans and chinos, you’ll see them a lot with odd trousers, and you might see them in less formal suits. The oxford itself is said to come from a professor at Oxford University cutting his boots to make them low-cut. On your point of about boots being chunky, slimmer boots are perceived to be a mark of craftsmanship and elegance. Chunky boots are more associated with blue-collar work and hard labor, so the dress shoe, in today’s world, tends to go in the opposite direction.

>>17160768
>Chelsea’s are a lot less formal than dress boots

That's the thing, if it needs to be more formal, why not wear a regular shoe version? But I don't know, I'm not in the corporate world or in high society so what do I know.

>>17160785
Dress boots usually aren’t as formal as their low-cut counterparts, but they’re completely acceptable in everything between casual and business casual attire. They wouldn’t we my first pick for an interview, but if you’re wearing a sweater and shirt in the fall, it fits in nicely.

>$1,500+ worth of thursdays and wolverine boots
christ you could have 2-3 pairs of whites instead these thursdayfags are delusional

>>17160736
They're quite flexible because they can be worn comfortably in a variety of social situations. Anywhere from casual to semi-formal. I can rock them in a flannel and jeans or a button down and corduroys. They help cover situations where you wouldn't want to wear down your more formal shoes (ex. Oxford) while still being able to be worn casually.

>>17155771
>The quality is mediocre and the calfskin is too soft/poorly clicked.
You think so? The leather quality is the main thing most people praise about Tecovas. You definitely wont find anything as thick and soft for the same price.

>>17160736
>What do you wear them with?
Anything. Thats why they're great.

>>17161069
Thick and soft doesn’t always equate to quality.

>>17158301
>type of boots would you recommend with a peacoat

Hikers and bootcut pants. Looks gorgeous.

>>17161619
amime protag fit

>>17160913
Disgusting

>>17160913
There's no reason to own more than one pair of boots

>>17162021
you need a brown pair and a black pair, a smooth pair and a rough pair, a plain to and a cap toe, a flat sole and a lug sole

>>17162031
For me it's black pair, brown pair, rugged lugged sole, flat city sole
Unfortunately all my boots have cap toes and I'm really wanting a plain toe boot. Once I get one I'll probably be finished buying boots

>>17162039
desu i feel like all i need now is a black plain toe and a suede

>>17162016
>amime
stupid zoomers

>multiple nigs boots recommendations showing up
nigs really ramping up that advertising money huh

>>17162228
if theyd put that money into workers and equipment and not have 1/2 a fucking year lead time people might actually buy them too

anyone can recommend something similar to these? only thing i dislike is the flat sole

>>17162395
>zipper

>>17162401
i have had sex more recently than u

>>17160387
Cutters are 7 or 8 inches I'm pretty sure, it's like everything you say is wrong.

>>17162234
I heard they're doing less customization too, moving towards just cranking out cheaper off the shelf boots for the same price.

>>17162416
zippers and velcro are the two sounds that dries a vagina

>>17162395
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO BRUH LOOK AT THIS DOOD

>Calf-high buffed faux-leather boots in black. Canvas trim throughout. · Zip closure and lace-up detailing at vamp · Text printed in white at outer side · Pull-loop at heel collar · Logo embossed at heel · Treaded recycled rubber sole Supplier color: Black

>>17162453
>i have had sex more recently than u

>>17162416
Getting fucked in the ass doesn't count

>>17162228
>>17162234
>>17162424
that the Whites pill brothers

>Bought RW Oro Leg about a year ago
>Havent conditioned them yet
I was thinking of using mink oil to give it a nice patina colour, or should I use non darkening treatment and keep oro legacy?

>>17162738
hell yeah if it ain't Whites it ain't right

>>17162973
do you like the colour? are you prepared to irreversibly ruin the unique oro legacy colour?

>>17162973
boots basically never need to be conditioned outside of maybe once a year

>>17163003
>do you like the colour? are you prepared to irreversibly ruin the unique oro legacy colour?
W-when you put it that way, I-i am not.

>>17163116
You can reverse it with a lot of stripping detergent and soap but you can see the tip where it refused to lighten back to the original unlike the shaft so now it is just a generic brown just think twice before doing so

here's my pair, produced in 2009, worn consistently for 5 years then seldomly worn recently. never resoled.

>>17163116
>>17163164
correction i guess my pair is in the oro-iginal before they replaced it with oro-legacy but the colour change still stands

>>17153881
shark, brah

Publication from 50 ish years ago

>>17163236
Nice

>>17163236
compared to a modern production. you can clearly see how little Whites has compromised over the years

>>17163164
>>17163176

Thanks bros, I'll keep em as is.

>>17160768
you can wear chelseas with black tie, mate

>>17160844
>laces on a motorbike

>>17160913
We see the same thing in the guitar threads all the time. A pile of shitplanks instead of a couple of really good instruments.

>>17163301
two nukes gave the japs a deathwish

>>17153881
You’re absolutely right, anon, it’s just such a shame these beautiful leathers are wasted on so many ugly boots

I fucking love wearing my whites bros
they are so comfortable and I get compliments on them

>>17163721
got some better pictures you can share? Looking good.

Would you guys recommend avoiding Red Wing factory seconds? I'm still new to trying to dress well and figured they're on a decent sale, but not being able to return or even try them on in advance seems like it'd be a bad idea if they're fucked. And is sizing really up in the air with all Red Wings?

>>17163748
Yeah when I get home

>>17163835
seconds are a good way to get decent boots without breaking the bank. most manufacturers will only sell things that arent structurally deficient so it will just be cosmetic issues you have to deal with

>is sizing really up in the air with all Red Wings?
they use lasts with generous toeboxes so some people can manage to go down a full size. id stick with a half size down because you can fix a shoe thats slightly too big but not the other way around

>>17163878
Thank you, I'll grab this pair. I appreciate it.

>>17163835
They usually have badly shaped stitching. That will stay with you.
Other defects become usually invisible with time

>>17163835
>sizing
Their size chart is old school.
I wear 8.5D converse and Allen Edmonds
and 8D Redwings and Chippewas.

>>17163239
elaborate

>>17163721
nice

>>17163835
seconds should just be aesthetic issues. best thing to do is just to try them on in a store to get your sizing down and then order the seconds. I would go half size down from your brannock

>>17163963
its the same full leather handwelted construction in a world where corners are constantly cut

>>17163721
waxed dark brown?
I bought those recently, hopefully in hand by end of year....

>>17164150
Yeah cinnamon waxed flesh

>>17164071
I was asking the guy who claimed White's has compromised what does he mean?

>>17164158
NVM I read wrong

Would it look odd to wear some suede driving shoes if I work as as a car salesmen?

>>17164158
It was sold to a Japanese conglomerate

>>17164217
and that's a good thing

>>17164155
Gotcha, cinnamon waxed and dark brown waxed are different though. I went with dark browns because the cinnamon seemed almost a yellowish color underneath its wax.

>>17164221
>cinnamon seemed almost a yellowish color underneath its wax.
like baby poo

>>17164222
yeah, definitely turned me away from that colorway, despite its apparent popularity on gyw. Glad i went dark brown.

finish her up new thread incoming

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>>17163721
impressive, very nice.

>>17162395
Danner Recon with an 8 inch zipper and some black boot polish.

>>17160365
>>17160425
the guy cut boots in half for a year so if you're getting boots good enough to watch youtoob vids with then these are them