/fa/ - Fashion

First for THE BEST CHART.
(Cope, as per usual.)

Looking for a golden watch
500 Eurobucks max
type doesn't matter
movement doesn't matter
42mm maxyrs4sv

>>17145492

>tfw 9.5k DJ going for 12k on chrono24

i just want to pay msrp for a fucking intro rolex i’m not asking for a daytona.
is this premium going to drop anytime soon? what’s a general non-rape premium for a DJ? almost 30% markup seems insane

>>17145508
rolex day-date

>>17145508
https://www.amazon.com/Casio-Stainless-Steel-Analog-Batons/dp/B005LFRE44/

Guys, how do we stop watchmakers from adding date windows onto their watches?
Something needs to be done.

>>17145492
This is the representative on behalf of all Omega Seamaster and most Omega Owners.

You guys are cancer

With that said, how the fuck are these pagani design fags everywhere all of a sudden, I mean everywhere

>>17145519
paganis are great, i own like 50

has anyone ever used a helium escape valve for the purpose of allowing helium to escape?
and by "anyone", i mean one single human on earth ever?
the answer is no.
but still very proud of mine.

>>17145517
hnnnngh

>>17145524
>but still very proud of mine
How can you be proud of a helium escape valve wtf? You can be proud of your kids or your achievements, not a freaking helium escape valve.

>>17145529
>crying because my watch features a helium escape valve and his doesn't
there there

>>17145524
show us your helium escape valve, faggot

>>17145492
ok i spent some time gathering up my favourite watches
would this work as a non-pretentious collection? i think yes

i'm partial to digital btw, you're not ready

>>17145538
I'm going to take a wild guess here and say you've never had sex.

>cautiously posts, runs away to escape inevitable hoards of seething anons with pitchforks

>>17145540
speak for yourself, got my personal 10/10 delivered 8 years ago
she doesn't wear the cute casio i gifted her tho

Contemplating the next purchase, might be one of these three or I'll save up and get something else entirely like a dressy Omega

ITS UP!!!! Great new video by Jody.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQw2Veo7iWo

>>17145549

What are you wearing today /wt/? Pic related for me.

>>17145546
What's the finish like on that? I've been eying up their oris big crown copy

>>17145492
I want one so bad bros

>>17145554
>Swatch Group

>>17145556
I wouldnt care if it had a peppa pig badge on it I'd still buy that shit it looks gorgeous

>>17145553
honestly flawless. really surprisingly quality. it's impossible to be disappointed imo. fantastic lume, too.

>>17145556
This guy is Mr. Rogers compared to that nasty cunt Thierry Stern.

>>17145557
Well then buy it. It's an Omega so you probably can find one brand new on C24 for like 500€.

Bought picrel for 140.

>>17145551

>>17145562
>you will own nothing and you will be happy
ooooy veeeeey

>>17145551
this little weekend shitter
panerai lookalike

>>17145554
omega's are so expensive now
just like 10 years ago you could find some under 100€ on ebay (not precisely yours)

>>17145564
well, as long as you're happy

>>17145563
one day bros...

>>17145567
unironically one of the greatest advertising campaigns of all time

>>17145549
I'm fine with someone posting a watch related video ocassionally , but simping this hard for an e-celeb is just pathetic.

>>17145567
You never actually own a Patek Philippe.

You merely flip it to some punter for a $30k profit.

>>17145554
I thought it was a GS from the thumbnail, very similar case shape.

>>17145567
You will never actually own a Patek Philippe.
That's it. That's the slogan.

>>17145575
You never actually own a Patek Philippe.
You merely put your name on a waiting list for the next generation to have a chance of buying it.

>>17145574
He's not simping. That's actually Jody.

>>17145492
wtf bros... This man came in my nightmare, what does it mean?

Diamond Rolexes?

>>17145584
That's even more pathetic.

>>17145584
I doubt that, he also simps for Teddy.

It appears my superiority has caused some controversy

>>17145589
Factory set maaaaaybe, even then you'd have to be a nigger to get away with it. If non-factory set then you're just destroying the watch and it's value.

>>17145522
You're lying. No one is that stupi.. so how long do those shitty movements last?

>>17145595
Do you really think someone who is rich enough to literally coat a Rolex with diamonds is worried about the resale value of their watch?

>>17145593
Why bother adding numerals if half of them are either cut or don't appear at all?

>Swiss
>Quartz/Solar
>Diver/good WR
>Titanium
>non-Microbrand
>Under $750
Does it exist?

>>17145564
Should have bought a Timex Weekender Chronograph for 1/3rd that money.

>>17145602
This is a lovely watch but I don't know why they are charging $80k for it. To be honest I don't understand Patek pricing at all. The 5205 is an annual calendar but only $55k. I'm guessing it's a difference in the level of movement decoration but it's pretty fucking funny for Patek to not lavish their best decorating skills on a $55k annual calendar.

>>17145598
they're mostly NH35A's, they're ok

Gm sirs

>>17145606
Hamilton will meet all of your requests except for titanium.

>>17145602
wow this is perfect.

>>17145606
No you fucking dingus

>>17145606
>>17145613
Pic didn’t attach.

will they sell me the rolex if i try it on and "accidentally" knock it against the glass display to scratch it?

>>17145492
Do you anons know any sites where you can find high quality images/wallpapers on watches and watch movements?

>>17145608
>This is a lovely watch but I don't know why they are charging $80k for it
one third of a base steel nautilus seems reasonable

>>17145620
heh, has anyone ever tried this? I think they would just charge you repair fees

>>17145620
Odds are pretty good the only thing you'll be able to try on are display models that don't have movements

>>17145546
What is this? Octo something can't make it out

>>17145628
octopus kraken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V63BdIEkEBg
PT5000 or swiss SW200, very nice

>>17145632
nigga y you be shillin for this watch so hard huh no cap nigga fr you be raw doggin on that shillin nigguh

>>17145611
Except NH35A is stamped to show whether they're manufactured in Japan or Malaysia and the ones being used in these Chinese watches are unmarked
Either counterfeit or seiko is allowing that to happen which is just as bad as the QC will be shambles

>>17145620
Not a chance.
They'll just repair it, or send it back to Rolex Geneva who will throw it in a bin.
You going online and bragging about it like a nigger is too high of a risk for the AD.

>>17145634
it's my fave out of my entire collection, with the possible exception of a gold rotaty les originales skeleton

>>17145611
This
>>17145639
I bought two San Martin watches a couple of years ago, one with PT5000 and one with “NH35” and both movements stopped working within a year.

Those watches aren’t even worth their low prices. I learned from my mistakes and only buy Japanese and Swiss now.

this or OP

>>17145646
always go for Rolex

>>17145646
OP

i feel like i dodged a bullet with the moonswatch, now that it's not gonna be listed online. i was gonna buy the whole collection as soon as it went online. i despise swatch for the way they've treated customers throughout this shit. 2 places in all of the uk to buy one, both multiple hundreds of miles away. and no guarantee of stock even if i did go all that way. i don't want them to have one penny of my money. fuck swatch. fuck their plastic shitter.

>>17145656
okay but it was always a plastic shitter. sounds more like you're just upset you can't get one and are coping about it to be honest familia and this is coming from someone who thinks they are garbage

>>17145657
no, i was caught up in the hype initially, but now the dust has had a chance to settle i can look back and be glad i never got the chance to throw money at them

>>17145519
They cost like $5, even europeans can afford them.

>>17145644
Explain how you can "This" his post and verify that the NH35A movement on those cheap watches aren't real

Clearly they're crap that will die soon
I wanted to buy a couple but washing 250 for two watches that will die in a year is pointless

>>17145646
OP is a poverty rolex, might as well get the BB.

>>17145660
They're $100 on sale, if they were $5 I'd risk it

>>17145666
Don't listen to this retard
OP > anything Tudor except for that chronograph with the breitling movement and that's only for the moment

>>17145670
This one?

>>17145661
I was “This”ing the post below my “This”

>>17145666
Retarded take.
Rolex put the same level of care and finishing for every watch they make (unlike many brands that outsource parts for their cheaper models, like IWC). The movement in the OP is the same as the one in a gold Submariner.

>>17145679
>Rolex put the same level of care and finishing for every watch they make
so their 50k day date has the same shitty quality control as an airking?
lmao rolex fanboys are bigger cucks than I thought

>>17145679
Imagine being proud to overpay for the same movement and quality as a 5k shit tier entry level watch. Beggars belief but no one said rolex fans were smart.

>>17145683
Rolex has the best quality control in the watch industry.

>>17145622
anyone?

>>17145688
>Beggars belief but no one said rolex fans were smart.

B-b-but they told me it was a wise investment.

>>17145688
Rolex pricing is made from bottom to top.
The Oyster Perpetual 36mm is the base for everything else. Case, movement, level of finishing. Rolex prices it at around 5500€ and it's the best built, most accurate automatic watch you can get for that price.
Then it's like cars. If you want options or precious materials you have to pay more.
It's a very honest pricing strategy. You know what you're paying for.

But it's okay. If you want a somewhat prestigious watch with a 100€ ETA movement inside, Omega, IWC or Breitling have dozens of watches to sell you.
You can even get a 12k€ Vacheron Constantin equiped with the same movement as a 4k Cartier. True luxury, right?

>>17145606
>Swiss
>Quartz/Solar
Why swiss? The japanese (read: Casio) are better at solar quartz

>>17145672
Yes, the panda dial is currently very sought after but I don't think it value will retain
Don't listen to the contrarians who want to convince the world their shitters are just as good as Rolex. They're the same as Invicta faggots who go on about how they're the smart ones for not paying 500-700 for a watch. Same kind of envious cope

>>17145612
$2800 watch you have there sir

>>17145703
If you think watches are a good investment, go read a few textbooks on finance, you fucking mongoloid.

t. different

>>17145688
I get your point but even the most basic Rolex is still more than good enough for even 95% of enthusiasts. Most people don’t know or care about movements or hand-finishing.

>>17145720
The point made is stupid.
He's basically asking for brands to make their cheaper models willingly shitty. Cuck behavior.

>>17145606
Change Swiss for Japanese and Citizen has got your back, senpai.

why would you buy a seiko
anyone who sees it is going to think it costs $200

>>17145723
It's called the I have no reply because my soiko entry level is intentionally made to be shit cope

Seiko Luxe>Grand Seiko

>>17145622
Not really, just search google images with high resolution.

>>17145707
So we're in agreement. Anyone who buys a Rolex that costs more than an OP36 is either willingly allowing himself to be ripped off or is retarded.

>>17145746
No we're not.
Do you unironically expect Rolex to sell you a gold GMT Master II for the same price as an OP? It has more functions and is made with precious metal, hence why it's more expensive.

>>17145728
I know, but I’d prefer Swiss

I can’t believe there’s seriously no Swiss equivalent of that Citizen

>>17145751
I expect to pay not a penny more than the value of the additional precious metal, since the amount of labor and workmanship that goes into both watches is equal.

>>17145753
Rolex doesn't sell gold bars. They're selling industrial products, some of which are made of gold.
To make gold watches Rolex needs to have dedicated lines of production, which add to the sole cost of material.
Same with the movement. Rolex produces less 3285 movements (GMT) than 3230 (base movement). These make the former a lot more expensive to produce than the latter.
Economies of scale work both ways.

>>17145551
My beater chrono, back on its bracelet. Too warm for leather right now

>>17145574
It makes one autist seethe, so it's gonna keep getting posted.
As a matter of fact, don't rule samefagging out , the same anon posts the video and seethes at it.

And since we are off-topic, fuck six letter captchas

>>17145769
Why bother explaining anything to coping poorfags who endlessly seethe over Rolex in these threads
I know you think it's common sense but they're retards

>>17145753
Rolex is an investment. Does it matter if you paid $5k or $10k for an OP if you can sell it for $20k in a few years. Rolex only goes one direction, up.

>>17145753
You're wrong, but I do think the precious metal markup is ridiculous. Pic related is $28,000 - really?

I love watches

>>17145783
GET YOUR STINKING PAWS OFF ME YOU DAMN DIRTY APE

>>17145780
lol

>>17145781
Because the gold Yacht-Master has its own dedicated line of production and Rolex makes very few of these.
>in b4 "why do they keep this production line open?"
Because they still make a profit out of it

>>17145783
Where is he from, the guy whose pic you posted
Greek? Turkish? Can't be Indian, not poo enough

>>17145792
Yes, I know basic economics. I also know that anyone who pays $28k or more for that is getting scammed.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/144632022936
Do i bid on this or no.

>>17145794
You clearly don't know much. Go back to worrying about your gibs, neet

>>17145794
>I also know that anyone who pays $28k or more for that is getting scammed.
Looks like you're wrong.

>>17145752
The swiss watchmakers as an industry cannot accept electronic technology, as it would make their mechanical watches entirely obsolete. Which in turn makes for development of new materials that -may- be used in other fields. They only exist for their own sake, as jewels/trinkets/things of interest. Precise and effortless timekeeping has already been solved (quartz, solar, radio, ecodrive 0100), anything else is just memetics and unnecessary complication.

>>17145801
I have never sold a watch and probably never will, so fretting about whether or not a watch goes up or down by a couple grand is totally irrelevant to me.
>>17145800
I probably have a lot more money than you but that’s irrelevant to the fact that most brands commit highway robbery with their precious metal models.

>>17145551

>>17145801

>>17145799
Do you also drive a yellow & black camaro?

>>17145807
I doubt you do, tubby
Keep crying about things you can't afford

>>17145805
>quartz, solar, radio, ecodrive 0100
All of these movements rely on a battery that will eventually die out.
Mechanical watches can last decades (if not centuries) as long as they're hand wound (or simply worn in the case of automatic watches).

>>17145801
kek

>>17145807
>I have never sold a watch and probably never will, so fretting about whether or not a watch goes up or down by a couple grand is totally irrelevant to me.
That's irrelevant to the discussion.
I don't consider a 30k watch that at least keep its value over the years a scam. I personnally call this a smart investment, wether you sell it or keep it.

>>17145828
Which watch is it?

>>17145799
i colourmatch shirts and watches, i'd buy the shit out of that

>>17145836
That's the amalgamation of the top 30 Rolex models on the market.

That's one thing I despise about the poor, they're always boiling with envy and crying about how they'd do it differently
Except they're just not smart enough to be wealthy because they're just not bright so it's irrelevant

>>17145593
lol

>>17145839
https://watchcharts.com/watches/brand_index/rolex
Look up the watches in the index. Not a single one sells for less than its MSRP.
Now let's look at Omega, IWC, Cartier, Breitling, Blancpain, JLC

>>17145707
its assembled and finished in house by vc, so no not the same as in a cartier

>>17145851
Maybe if you just keep coping, Rolex prices will go back up.

>>17145852
Rolex fans don't know anything about watches beyond rolex = best. You're expecting far too much of them.

>>17145828
when will the speculators and flippers begin the panic selling?

>>17145855
>muh price retention
speaks volumes that the name on the dial and how much its worth is the main talking point

>>17145852
The movement wasn't developped nor produced by VC. It is indeed finished then assembled by VC (not the other way around).
https://watchbase.com/vacheron-constantin/caliber/1326
>It is based on the Cartier 1904 architecture. It is produced by Richemont's Manufacture Horlogère ValFleurier and finished, assembled, and regulated by Vacheron Constantin.

>>17145856
The small-timers are already starting to panic sell, the larger ones are going to wait it out. If you're some rich ass Arab or Russian, parking your money in watches sitting in a freeport is a good way to avoid taxes. They take up a lot less space than art or cars.

>>17145861
absolutely rekt.

>>17145861
thank you for verifying my factual information. design wise, id go for the 56 rather than the cartier. If value is what youre after rather than design or emotion, youll make compromises and settle for something less
>>17145864
literally not the same as in a cartier

>>17145856
They already are, why do you think so many here and elsewhere are so desperate to prop up rolex prices? Rolex ``investors'' are going to lose even more on watches than they did on ape jpegs.

Poorfags still SEETHING lmao

>>17145866
>literally not the same as in a cartier
Literally the same as in a Cartier. Both movements come from the same production line from a movement maker owned by Richemont.
The only difference is VC disassemble it, decorate it and then reassemble it again for the purpose of larping as haute horlogerie.

>>17145856
Funny to think that just a few months ago these were selling for $18k+.

>>17145870
the edges of the Maltese cross are beveled by hand, and the bridges were also reshaped to give them more curved and elegant shapes, and you get a 22k rotor. They are not advertising it as a haute horologie movement, it has no seal, there is no deception, you are getting what you pay for an entry level piece.

>>17145868
ok

>>17145872
>15k for a Submariner

>>17145883
Ok

>>17145872
I have no way of knowing as the Rolex market is fueled by speculators and abject stupidity, but I expect the prices to stabilize around 20% above MSRP with some really desirable models like the Daytonas and GMTs to be a little higher. I would probably be willing to pay 20% above MSRP to not have to deal with some bloodsucking AD faggot to get a watch.

>>17145895
oh how nice, a sports watch. And a dude wearing it with a suit. Can't afford taste it seems.

>>17145878
Vacheron is surprisingly evasive when it comes to their caliber 1326. They don't advertise it as a third-party movement. You have to make your own research to know about it.
I find this dishonest and deceptive coming from a brand like Vacheron (which I admire by the way), that belongs to the holy trinity. You'd expect them to make everything in-house. Not even JLC (also Richemont) uses third-party movements.
Clearly the 56 line is marketed as affordable haute horlogerie.
>Hey did you know you could buy a watch from the holy trinity for a little more than 10k?
Well, turns out you don't own a haute horlogerie time piece. You own a Vacheron case with a Cartier movement. That's deceptive and unworthy of Vacheron.

>>17145900
>all jackets are formal

>>17145901
So what? Vacheron is doing horribly compared to Patek and AP. If they can trick some clueless retards into buying the brand, good for them. They need all the help they can get. What’s the last good looking, original new release from Vacheron (NOT from the Historiques collection)?

>>17145821
What sort of postapocalyptic scenario do you have in mind where a once-every-4-years battery change is a hinderance?

>>17145900
Yes, clearly a bum on an internet image board knows more about taste than that man

>>17145895
>is that the heckin pepsi
>i'll pay $4000 for that color!

>>17145551

>>17145901
its like the main gripe with the watch. its like bitching about a toyota engine in a lotus. everyone knows that is at level of buying into a brand like VC. its not marketed as HH, maybe one of the complication 56s is, they make no mention of the geneva seal. Do you prefer the cartier watch? i think it looks horrible, 56 is pretty cool looking.

>>17145911
appeal to authority?
yawn

Tudor bussin.
Omega bussin.
Rolex seething.
PP seething.

>>17145919
You're a loser and no one genuinely cares about what you think. There's nothing unique about you at all. You're just the typical coping envious loser who thinks he knows better but will never achieve anything.
Eternal cope

>>17145925
>argumentum ad hominem
zzzzzzz

so...

>>17145900
>Can't afford taste it seems.
but enough about you, why don't you post some watches?

>>17145906
>If they can trick some clueless retards into buying the brand, good for them.
I don't think it's smart decision for a high luxury company to treat its customers as clueless retards. Right now I'd rather get an ALS (also Richemont) than a VC.
>What’s the last good looking, original new release from Vacheron (NOT from the Historiques collection)?
I don't really like the Overseas but I think they made a good job with the Everest collection. They don't fit within VC's design language at all but they are cool watches.

>>17145929
TSA wont like this one

whats wrong with buying the watch you like?

>>17145931
no u
>>17145932
>sports watches

>>17145932
>I don't think it's smart decision for a high luxury company to treat its customers as clueless retards
Seems to be working for Rolex and Patek just fine. Anyone smart enough to get annoyed leaves and gets replaced by legions of more idiots ready to debase themselves for the chance at a watch.

>>17145935
Nothing

>>17145589
If I had money to burn, I'd absolutely buy that.

>>17145938
>Seems to be working for Rolex and Patek just fine.
Explain how Rolex and Patek treat their customers like clueless retards.

>>17145919
>Appeal to authority. Yawn

>>17145932
>AM/PM indicator
Beg pardon?

>>17145932
Limited to 150 pieces and the prototype came about in 2019? You're not really selling me on the brand there Anon. Surely they have come out with something half decent in the last 3 years

>>17145947
>You're not really selling me on the brand there Anon.
As I said
>Right now I'd rather get an ALS (also Richemont) than a VC.
Even JLC is sexier than VC right now.

>>17145944
He can't because he doesn't know what he's talking about and he just picked the two best watches to own but since his life is worth less than either watch, he'll cry about them

>>17145946
If you look under the hour hand is an orange hand that keeps track of your home time. The AM/PM lets you know if it's day or night back home since both hour hands traverse the dial in 12 hours. The second crown at 4 o'clock allows you to quickly change local time.

It's like having a GMT watch when you're traveling and a normal watch when you're home.

>>17145946
It's a GMT (orange hour hand beneath the main hour hand)

>>17145944
They don't reign in their ADs and Rolex actively encourages selling to flippers.

bout to buy a tudor

>>17145954
It's really the customers who are more at fault. If everyone said enough is enough and stopped playing waiting list games, they would be forced to re-evaluate how they do business. Instead there are people who are actually stupid enough to spend $40k on dead stock to get onto the mythical preferred client list at Patek to get the "opportunity" to spend another $40k on a fucking Calatrava.

>>17145941
id buy this, much more tasteful

>>17145954
All the brands that are overwhelmed with demand have the same problems (PP, AP, Rolex and some smaller brands like FP Journe or H. Moser... even Baltic with their Patek-like model). They just can't stop a buyer to sell his watch with a huge mark-up on Chrono24. ADs have nothing to gain in this since they're selling watches for the same price, whether it's an actual customer or a buyer.
The only solution is to increase production and they're all trying to do it.
That's just how the market is right now.

>>17145968
>whether it's an actual customer or a buyer.
I meant flipper

>>17145945

wtf is a sneedmaster?

>>17145968
Lots of dealers are refusing to give the warrantee card until 3 months of ownership

Anyone buying a Submariner over a Seamaster is a 100% brand whore or a soulless “investor”.
The Seamaster is the better watch in every single way, both aesthetically and technically, but of course the Submariner might appreciate slightly less than the S&P500 over time, while the Omega will lose… who cares, you’re living your life wearing a sexy watch. Why the f*ck would you ever sell it?

>>17145968
ADs have plenty to gain - if you think there aren't backroom deals being made to grey market flippers for bundles of Rolexes in exchange for a cut of the profits, you're delusional. You think all these grey market BNIB Rolex watches for sale are from small-time flippers who happened to get a lucky call from a dealer?

>>17145973
bad bait and i like omega

>rolexfags used their stimmy check to get the bare minimum entry level rolex and made their entire personality revolve around it

>>17145968
That's wrong though. Patek hates flippers and takes active steps to prevent it from happening. Rolex just doesn't give a fuck.
>Mr Stern explains in very clear terms that he likes Flippers about as much as he likes catching the flu. He further details that Patek in fact will buy back quite a lot of timepieces from the secondary market because “[they] want to know why a watch is for sale”. However, Mr Stern continues that in case a retailer is caught to be actively involved in these types of sales or if the retailer does not prevent such resales from taking place, Patek would very simply terminate the retailer’s account. Mr Stern is quoted as saying: ” “If I have the proof, then I act”.

>>17145503

>>17145986
he doesnt make a mil watches a year either

Been searching for a watch for 2 years now. My budget has fluctuated between $500 and $10,000. Almost pulled the trigger a few times

At the end of the day, I can’t justify getting an expensive watch over a less expensive one. None of the marketing and brand tricks work on me anymore

Only thing holding me back is people thinking I’m not a watch snob. I’d be just fine wearing a $500 beater, but meh. I want a conversation piece. I want to let them know I’m down to talk about watches

>Rolex produces 1M watches a year
>there are currently 20,000 Rolex from 2022 and 2021 selling on Chrono24 right now
Chrono24 is by far the largest watch market place. So let's say another 20,000 Rolex are for sale on other watch market place (it's far less than that but whatever).

That means there are 40,000 Rolex produced in the last 12 months that are being flipped right now.
That's only 4% of Rolex' yearly production.
That means 96% of Rolex are bought by actual customers and worn.

You guys greatly overstimate flippers. They make money on a very small percentage of Rolex' production.

>>17145567
>>17145575
>>17145582
>You never actually own a Patek Philippe.
>You merely shitpost online making fun of people who bought a different brand

>>17146009
Tudor sounds like the brand for you. It's swiss. It's budget. It's by Rolex.

>>17145622
You could try starting a thread on /wg/?

>>17146015
Tudor is a brand I’ve considered. At the end of the day, is it really a budget? A $3000 purchase for most things is considered expensive

>>17146028
Watches can retail for tens or hundreds of thousands, so in that sense 3,000 is cheap.

>>17146028
Get a pre-owned one for around $2000. It's expensive but usually they last forever. It's half the price of a seamaster. If not then get a seiko presage for around $300 or something but be warned they wont last nearly as long without scratches etc

>>17146028
>>Tudor is a brand I’ve considered. At the end of the day, is it really a budget?
Yes, you're just laughably poor.

>>>Tudor is a brand I’ve considered. At the end of the day, is it really a budget?
>Yes, you're just laughably poor.

>>17146028
i always think its important to discuss the watch in question, rather than just brands. Theyre obviously inseparable, but youre not buying shares of stock, youre buying a product. Do you like the product? Do you like it enough to pay for it? How often to you expect to be buying a watch? An expensive purchase is not a financial burden if its not an annual or constant expense.

>>17146028
Omegas, Tudors, Rolex, Tag Heur all have great warranties and can be fixed until the end of time. Most of the beaters dont have good warranties or cant even be serviced

>im rolex but without the hype

>>17146056
also Rolex without the quality, Rolex without the style, Rolex without the features, Rolex without the value retention...

>>17146057
thanks for proving my point

>>17146056
you dont own a rolex

>>17146057
Anyone who hasn't sold all their rolexes by now has already lost. It's like holding stocks in October 1929. Anyone with any sense got out long ago. Anyone with any taste never owned a rolex to begin with.

>he has a rolex but no marriage certificate
fake ass rolex posers lmao

>>17146065
>p-please sell your Rolex so I can buy one
>when will the market crash?? REEEEEEEEE

>>17146069
Dating as a man of rolex is very difficult.

>>17146057
>Rolex without the value retention
OH NO NO NO NO NO

>>17146076
Based finance bro dabbing on roasties thinking they're entitled to a free meal

>>17146076
Yep tell them its a seiko you modded and you’re good

>stemlord wagies come home from work
>thread instantly becomes garbage

>>17146076
>he has money so he should have paid for my friends' meals!
Femoid logic, gentlemen.

>>17146076
You don't get Rolex collection money by paying for stupid roasties' meals

rolex had a blue op34 in stock today and I wussed out.

>>17146099
not a real rolex

Looking at some local listings, I'm seeing pre-owned for 30% off retail, grey market for 25-30% off retail and that Gulf version with the orange stripe for 40% off retail.

If there so little difference, is there a point in going for pre-owned instead of new gray market? Or even from an AD if I can bargain a 20-25% discount?

find a flaw.

>>17146111
the band but it can be replaced

>>17145971
Just like a speedmaster, but instead of speed it masters sneed.

>>17146076
LMAO that guy is actually based, holy shit

>>17146009
Buy a Seiko Cocktail time, the dial alone is an attention grabber.

What the fuck is the "grey market"

>>17146108
Depends how badly you care about the warranty

>>17146133
not the official AD's so like chrono24, ebay, jomashop and retail stores that sell those brand new trade ins marked up to market value instead of official retail price

>>17146144
Oh ok makes sense.

>>17146057
You don't even like watches do you, anon?

>>17146152
You can get great deals on some weaker brands gray market. Make sure you are satisfied with the warranty they offer though. it wont be as good as the AD warranty

>>17145971
formerly feedmaster

>>17145753
Most watches you'll pay at least another 4-5k for gold.

>>17146160
Yeah someone told me to get the Tudor I want from a the gay market rather than my AD, or use the gray market prices at leverage and I didnt know what he meant.

>>17146011
damn you are stupid as fuck
think about your post a bit more and try to find the flaw in your logic

>>17146111
The lines between the seconds do not correspond to the actual vph of the movement.

>>17146111
What happened to the date window?

>>17145808

NYCE

>>17145551
How come it's always basedko that makes the best dials?
Why does Rolex only makes boring looking shit?

>>17145870
>VC disassemble it
They provide base movements you absolute retard.

>>17146206

>>17146201
Why would they put in unnecessary effort? All they have to do is make a watch 1 mm bigger or smaller and people will line up around the block for it. They could take a Tudor, stamp the Rolex crown on it and people in this thread would applaud them for their bravery before paying $10k for it. The cult of Rolex is the worst thing to happen to the watch industry since the quartz crisis

>>17146206
>They provide base movements you absolute retard.
No they don't, fuckface.
>It is based on the Cartier 1904 architecture.
>It is produced by Richemont's Manufacture Horlogère ValFleurier
https://watchbase.com/vacheron-constantin/caliber/1326

>>17146229
Do you know what an ebauche is?

>>17146237
Yeah. Cartier made it.

>>17145970
>Implying that's not what you and the rest of the seething coping poorfags look like

>>17146248
post bank account balance

>>17145984
>Ppvertyfags talking about stimulus checks confirming they're just poor envious queers

>>17146229
BASE MOVEMENT. They're not going to spend time and money assembling just to disassemble it. They don't even have the same regulator you dumb cunt.

I've just spoken to Hiroshimoot. We're going to filter the word Rolex on this board. /wt/ is saved bros

>>17146201
Rolex has really nice designs imo, but Seiko is clearly willing to innovate and take more risks with their models. Same goes for Grand Seiko.

There needs to be a proper watch thread and one for poorfags who can enjoy their echo chamber of poverty
It's impossible on 4chan though because it's mostly poor teens and complete loser manchildren who will always envy the rest

>>17146265
>Rolex has really nice designs imo
The good ones are unironically the ones aimed at women.

>>17146111
It's a timex, and as such is an overpriced piece of shit

>>17146268
>It's impossible on 4chan though because it's mostly poor teens and complete loser manchildren who will always envy the rest
And then there are the poorfags

>>17146268
A LARP/non-LARP thread split would be better

>>17146258
VACHERON DOESNT PROVIDE BASE MOVEMENT YOU ABSOLUTE RETARD.
It's a third party movement, initially created by fucking Cartier and now produced by Manufacture Horlogère ValFleurier.
Some interns at Vacheron then decorates the balance wheel and retards like you call it in house movement
>b-b-but muh regulator isn't the same
OH WOW THAT'S HAUTE HOROLOGY THEN

>>17146268
The supposed richfags never post their watches, or any proof they're rich or well off at all. It's just larping

>>17146268
go to the reddit for rolexes if you want to jerk yourself off with fellow enthusiasts

>>17146289
Is it impossible to be poor and admire quality watches like Rolex or do I have to cry and complain because I have the mentality of a loser who thinks they deserve more without working for it?
Not all poor people are the same but in these threads it's certainly mostly the envy filled whiny children

>>17146295
>people discussing other brands is envious
retarded

Why does rolex feel the need to put a paragraph of useless text on their dials? Awful aesthetic tbqh~

>>17146293
Reddit is unironically the home for you people. You can jerk each other off endlessly about Casio and soiko

>>17146305
Not him but people actually posts their rolexes and other expensive watches on reddit, much moreso than here.

>>17146305
Giga-cope

>>17146299
Who is complaining about people discussing other brands? Stop crying over things others can afford or want to own because you'll never be able to
I don't care if you talk about citizen

>>17146312
No one here is crying about Rolex except for you

is it possible to have an astronomia as a daily wear during everyday life, and not look like a total penis?

>>17146317
work at a planetarium that does presentations to elementary schoolers on field trips

>>17146311
I just went to the front page of r/watches and it's mostly Seiko
Go there and don't come back

>>17146317
These things are so big that the odds of you cracking it on a door knob or something seem very high.

>>17146316
I see, the I'll pretend I'm retarded card
Keep crying

>>17146283
>decorates the balance wheel
I can't think of a single movement ever made that has a decorated balance wheel. Not one.

>>17146260
Add 'cope' and we're golden.

>>17146330
That should probably be banned on all boards

>>17146326
You cant point to any posts seething about Rolex.

>>17146327
NTA but check this out.

>>17146341
I wouldn't call that decorated, but props to them for being original and unique.

>>17145492
>the appreciation of watches and their design
>appreciation of watches and their design
roll eyes

>>17146111
tries to sell itself as a tough outdoors watch but in reality is just made with cheap OEM parts in phillippines shithole

>>17146358
These look exactly like their Tudors but without the crown in person as well lmao

>>17146358
Rolex divers in the black colors are the most boring shit on earth

>>17146358
>rubber strap on a rolex
should be illegal

>>17146386

new

>>17146386

>>17146358
rolex is a tudor cope

>>17146300

>>17145646
How are you deciding between a 43mm black ceramic diver and a 36mm OP? Think about what type of watch you want: Chunky but light, blackout diver or basic sturdy watch from well known brand?

>>17146099
Good move. Save up for the Rolex you actually want.

>>17146394
>swiss meme

https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/the-older-i-get-and-the-more-watches-i-own.5424660/

>Price is barely even correlated with any of those things, if at all.

>That seems much more evident now than ever. The Farer I have is nicer than the Tudor BB I have for less than 50% of the cost. I was stunned by that honestly.


dis nigga cappin or bussin fr fr fp fp?

hello /wt/, what's the verdict on HMT watches? been looking at getting a pilot as babby's first mechanical

also picture of my fav watch rn ( I like tritium lume and I'd like to get a nice Ball/Marathon someday)

>>17146524
Dogshit. Next.

>>17146533
Ok thank you

>>17146111
What this anon said >>17146191 if it had a mechanical movement or a mecaquartz then it would be flawless.

>>17146543
Has to be mechaquartz. That way you can keep the indiglo

>>17146560
That would be kino but I dunno if Timex has ever used Seiko movements and I don't think Miyota does a mecaquartz.

I'm gonna be honest, I don't even own a watch. I just like reading these threads.

>>17145967
That's nice too. The ostentation of a jewel encrusted watch really appeals to me.

>>17145971
It's those plastic watches Omega made.

Went window shopping today and the BB58 keep smiling at me, how high up are they on the cope-scale?

>>17146887
#1 watch for people who want but cannot afford a rolex.

If that's what you want to convey, get one.

>>17146895
Yeah I wanted a GMT as a kid, wasted all my money traveling in my early 20s when you could get Rolex at retail, in my head settled for an Explorer because it fits most occasions and even that got outpriced

>>17145599
they usually aren't, until it's too late

>>17145783