/fa/ - Fashion

>>17141303
Back in the days when people travelled by horse you’d sometimes get a fleck of shit on your shoes or clothes… or so much dust it turned your clothes brown. So coming in the big city with brown on you meant you were a dirty stupid farm boy, and your boss don’t want none of that because it’s bad for business.
Now get them black shoes, busboy.

>my boss is controlling my life in petty and meaningless ways
Yes?

>>17141303
sounds like you should tell hr you heard your boss say something about not wanting browns in town. Thank me later op

>>17142270
not all companies have HR anon...

small ones dont... and usually have power hungry bosses...

>>17141547
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This is just normal ettiquette in suit dress codes in Europe, only yankoids get this wrong.
If your job requires a suit you wear black shoes. Only with business casual and below you can wear brown shoes.

>>17142309
pretty sure this sort of snobbery is exclusive to London's financial district, no one else gives a shit.

>>17142311
I mean this is etiquette everywhere. Here in the Netherlands this is also the case. You can just tell if a guy is from a good family by how he ties his tie or which colour shoe he uses.

Don't get me wrong, I love brown shoes. Just not during the job. Wear them in (business) casual outfits or with casual suits. Why would you want to wear brown shoes under a charcoal or navy suit anyway, it looks bad.

>>17142318
All that means is you've been colonized by London's classism.

>>17142318
>Why would you want to wear brown shoes under a charcoal or navy suit anyway, it looks bad.
Brown is fine with those colors. Brown shoes is like a white shirt, you can combine them with almost everything.

>>17142318
Dark brown can go with navy

>>17142331
I don't understand why yanks fetishize brown so much, particularly in trousers and footwear.

>>17142355
black = funeral

>>17141303

wear white sneakers with them instead

>>17142331
Yeah I agree. Just not with suits.
This is only a recent development too, since people nowadays consider any shoe that isnt a sneaker 'formal'. If you look at pictutes of the 90s and before rarely do people wear brown shoes with a suit that isn't a casual suit

>>17142373
if we're going by old time standards then all modern suits are casual suits, being derived from the casual lounge suit.
formal wear was morning dress and tuxedo dress.

>>17142318
While some jobs and business settings require black shoes, there's absolutely nothing wrong with wearing brown shoes with a regular suit. People did it all the time even back in the day, not at their job, but brown Oxfords or Derby's absolutely do go with a regular suit.

>>17142356
laughable

>>17142282
lol small ones have HR that is either fucking the boss and/or are actively covering for him. Oh wait, the latter is all HR lmfao.

>>17141303
Are you an Englishman, anon? Because the idea that brown shoes are only for the country estate is literally a 19th century English thing.

>boomers say shit like this and then go wear belts with waistcoats or suspenders on pants with belt loops

>>17141303
It's pretty common knowledge, a lot of people and companies just don't give a shit so outside of very conservative and formal districts it's not heavily enforced.

>>17142311
>>17142309
I work as a bank clerk in rural Germany and it's the same here, I'd absolutely get into trouble if I wore brown oxfords.
Hell when I applied they specifically mentioned the dress code, it's just normal.

i masturbate to sven raphael schneider pronouncing "sh"

>wearing shit coloured shoes to work
Your own damn fault

>>17142270
kek

>>17141303
>boss sat me down and forbade me from wearing brown shoes with a navy trousers to work because apparently 'no brown in town'
Never heard of this one anon. What country are you in?

>>17141303
unless your job demands a very very formal dress code, this rule is nonsense, and >>17141322 is right about the story (it is just an outdated convention outside of formality)

>>17143324
it isnt normal for most jobs that arent important

>>17141303
too much contrasts, try brown suit

>>17145067

>>17145093
nah, thanks, i am solo player, but thanks for invitation

>>17145055
It isn't normal for most jobs period.

>>17143324
Bank clerk isn't a minimum wage job like it is in Burgerland?

>>17145055
Normal for office jobs, practically any office job.

>>17145107
>Bank clerk isn't a minimum wage job like it is in Burgerland?
Not sure how it's in Murrka but we also do consultations and handle appointments to give advice on "simpler" financial matters.
To get into it you usually have the 3.5 years of schooling and practical experience you get through an apprenticeship at a bank and then transition right into fulltime employ by them.
Pay is very good for something that doesn't require university/college level education.

>>17142309
Nothing wrong with wearing brown shoes here in Norway

>>17141322
Retard.

>>17141322
didn't actually know that. Very interesting

>>17145600
Maybe in an office outside of America...

>>17142319
>All that means is you've been colonized by London's classism.
Leftypol please leave

>>17141303
When a new guy comes into the office on his first day wearing brown shoes, the boys organize a hot dog or burger lunch and one of them takes a little piece of his morning shit and puts it on the new guy's burger, little bit of an initiation ritual

>>17145600
I live in a Trump county in the Midwest and I've never seen this rule about no brown shoes until now. His outfit would be considered classy here.

>>17148131
Different places, different expectations. People should dress accordingly.

London and Japan are the only two places where no brown in town rule might fly.

In Italy almost nobody wears black shoes and they have the best dressers around.

>>17141303

It's a British/Japanese/Northern Euro thing. Boomer Americans, especially in the NE, come from an Anglo-influenced culture of formal dress, so it bled in a bit there as well.

Black has until recently in such codes been reserved for servants, waitstaff, funeral director types. It's only taken 50 odd years of black being cool and edgy for attitudes to shift. Brooks Brothers didn't make black suits until the mid '00s, for instance.

>>17148131

Yeah, it's mostly not followed in flyover country outside of larger international kinds of cities. Or maybe law offices.

>>17145616
>Not sure how it's in Murrka but we also do consultations and handle appointments to give advice on "simpler" financial matters.
It's the same in Burgerland, except the pay isn't good and it doesn't require any education, if some experience. Oh, and the "advice" mostly consists of trying to sell the bank's products to people who don't want, need, or can even really afford them.