/fa/ - Fashion

1st for reps is the way to go.

>>17065140
I only do reps in the gym

Best rose gold men’s watch under $15k? Can be two tone.

>>17065134
Give me your best green watch under 1k

>>17065150

>>17065156

>>17065150
>>17065161

>>17065056
what g-shocks your colleagues wear?

Keep coping, guys.

>>17065134
WTF is this, a Hublot Santos?

Really recommend this if you can get it for $30 or so as an alternative to a GShock. Good step counter and has heart rate, world time, backlight. Battery lasts over a month depending how many activity sessions you do (done via the app). And charging is fast.

>>17065150
Root beer (CHNR) GMT unironically
Probably the shortest waitlist GMT, and waitlists are shrinking. This one is borderline "good value" as rolex madness goes.

>>17065156

>>17065150
It's not best by any standards, but i'll just throw it in for consideration.

>>17065156
It's a bit over 1k, but it's an ENAMEL dial.

>>17065172
Cope. Might makes right.

Recommend me a watch with a red dial.
Preferably a diver or sports watch.

>>17065203
>Preferably a diver or sports watch.
Well...

Give it to me straight, is it too big?

>>17065170
I am not entierly sure, one wears a casioak, one wears some knockoff bought in egypt and is half destroyed but still works well and one has the old one with a calculator

>>17065213
It looks fine.

>>17065179
There are so few digital watches where the display doesn’t look crammed in. This is one.

Copped my first Casio today.

>>17065213
nope, what size is your wrist? i also have wrist dysphoria

>>17065279
6.75 or 17cm

>>17065134
Naked watch, I can see its privates.
>>17065164
>roman and arabic
>>17065180
I dislike GMT, but I'm not >>17065150

Everything else is shit.

Not sure which one to get next.

>>17065179
Gross

>>17065147
>not wearing a G-shock

ngmi

Bros when is the brew metric getting restocked

>>17064946
must be new here

>>17065293
same as me, it looks good on your wrist

>>17065330
Not new, but i've seen them go to 400 sometimes. Isn't there a limit to posts with images? I'm not that much into the technicalities.

>>17065317

>>17065343
It's about bump limits you retard. Why post in a thread that will slide off the catalog.

>>17065213
It's big, but it looks fine. Chuff it in good wealth.

I want one

>>17065223
Welcome to the winning side, anon.

>>17065356
Yeah your a joke!

Go UNDER my head---you know which head I'm talking about....

>his shittah garbage isn’t made of literal garbage

>>17065392
I have a watch that's made of wood.

>>17065223
welcome to the club

I forgot why I stopped coming here. Watches are vapid shit and mean nothing in actual success or life.
You are all vacuous consumers and amount to nothing by being here.
It's literally jewellery. It means nothing and it's just designed to take your money.
Leave and never come back get a real hobby.

>>17065134
Anyone knows w2c straps with these buckles on aliexpress?

Few years ago they were pretty much the standard NATO buckles, now they're impossible to find and there's just shitty bent buckles. Is there some specific search term maybe?

Ngl. I kind of want one.

>>17065414
Suck my ass it smells

>>17065422
Id buy one for the $600 its worth

>>17065414
>It's literally jewellery

>>17065435
Is jewellery not the most consumerist, insipid shit you can imagine. Surely you cringe at the rappers on Instgram flashing their tasteless, gauche diamonds. spending a lot ofn watches is exactly the same.
Watches are the epitome of mindless consumerism.

>>17065443
What are you doing on fa
Why do you care about other people do

>>17065446
I used to be like you fgts. I bought a watch for £2500 then £2900. It's all bollocks. spend it on travel, something productive.
It's far more fa to spend £2k on a camera or a mountain bike.
get a £10 Casio and have done with this whole shitty trap.

does anyone know any good rep sellers in europe?

>>17065443
a watch is the only acceptable piece of jewelry for a western male besides a wedding ring, and has been for over a century. there's a clear difference between (most of) them and ostentatious bling
if you want to degrade that fine, but then why the fuck are you on /fa/ in the first place

>>17065447
Nope, youre still here. Its very delightful knowing someone somewhere like you us going into fits of rage because someone else somewhere is enjoying a wrist clock. It doesn't mean anything, its pretty and thats the point. You don't like pretty things, big deal.

>>17065450
In my day the watch thread was on /g/.
If you have a mortgage or don't own a house, your watch should not exceed $400.

I stopped by a JLC retailer the other day and fuck their watches are absolutely beautiful and some of them aren't even that expensive (in the ~6-9k range and they look amazing). What's the catch?
Opinions on JLC's non-diver, non-Reverso models?

>>17065457
The catch is that they're Richemont owned.

>>17065460
And?

>>17065455
And look what happened to it. Seriously nothing to brag about

>>17065457
>not that expensive
> 6-9k
Are you retarded.

IT'S A WRISTWATCH

>>17065471
Compared to Rolex bullshit or higher end brands like Patek or AP, it's not that expensive
I'm not talking in absolute terms you mong

>>17065454
First time here in 4 months.
It's like an addiction though. I know your pain and impulsion. resist.

What the FUCK is Vacheron thinking!?

>>17065475
>we'll make it in gold first to avoid the stupid hype train for steel sports watches

>>17065457
The catch is you’ll still want a Rolex and not a nerdy jlc

>>17065421
The pic you posted looks like what cheapestnatostraps (not on ali) calls an adjustable single-pass strap. The buckle is so that you can adjust the length for comfort, even as the adjustment is a bit of a bother.

Are you rather talking about square hardware like on >>17065422? I wouldn't know the ali name for either, and I wonder why anyone would buy off ali rather than CNS.

>>17065478
Agreed.

I get complements on the one Rolex I own.

No one ever compliments me on my Patek Perpetual Calendar Minute Repeater in Platinum.

>this is what people actually believe.

>>17065478
I don't care about rolex, everyone has one. Boring as shit

>>17065478
This sums up the whole problem with the consumerism that is watches.
A HOBBY THAT JUST REQUIRES MONEY IS NOT A HOBBY

>>17065483
lol poorfag

>>17065392
So it’s made out of garbage? How’s that different then any other timex?

>I don’t care about Rolex

>>17065487
That's not an insult. I was born poor, Ive worked my way up to the top 10% of earners in my country. Watches are stilla pointless expense that could be spoent on actual hobbies or useful shit.
Pay off your mortgage for fucks sake. and if you don't have a mortgage, buy a rental.

>>17065493
cope

>>17065457
They're not super exciting and resell value is so-so
>>17065473
You're right. Im so disappointed with myself, i was going to buy a house next week, but instead i went out and bought a seiko. With a 4r35. Now im going to have to go to my father in law and borrow some money, or spend my last $60 on scratch off tickets so i can buy the house of my dreams. Im not alone, theres a few dozen of us here that instead of buying a house, spent all our pay on watches. You've seen us posting, our $1600 collections were the difference between owning a home outright and sleeping in van down by the river.

>>17065498
Ha you fucking poorfag.

>>17065498
>They're not super exciting
I'm looking for a classic, simple watch that I can wear both with a suit or with casual clothing, something elegant and not too sporty. What else should I consider aside from Cartier's Santos Dumont?

>>17065501

>>17065488
ones recycled, the other is
https://youtu.be/k7MQ5rxUZsc

>>17065471
>>not that expensive
>>6-9k
>Are you retarded.

Are you poor? $10k is like an international flight in F.

Why the fuck is it so hard to buy one of these Timex GMT shitters? Are they copying the Rolex sales model too, not just the bezel?

>>17065475
Nice PRX homage

>>17065317
Anon...

I see the troll has woken up and his shift has started.

>>17065475
>What the FUCK is Vacheron thinking!?
SEX
This will be the highest demand the company has ever had for a model in their history as a brand (even pre richemont when they were an actual brand)

>>17065475
seems like pretty spot on reissue of a classic model

>>17065390

anyone well-versed on nato straps?
there are so many variations at the moment, anyone have any preferences or opinions?

>>17065409
Based and 9052pilled

>>17065601
Classic is good but make sure they're good quality. Ribbed is my preference for vintage styling.
Chevron or perlon for singlepass

>>17065414
Y-you too.. .

>>17065471
Based

>>17065213
Nope, looks great, big but not too big.
(I also am very conscious of wearing watches that are too big)

>>17065613
Thanks for the help. Are the seatbelt style ones as shit feeling/looking as they sound?

>>17065624
They're fine just read reviews before you buy from a site. You notice bad quality way more than good.

>>17065613
>Classic is good but make sure they're good quality.
Not really necessary. I have $2 natos that look and feel nice than $15 natos. As long as they don't fray super easy they're good.

I want to get my groomsmen a late wedding gift. Thing is I have 8 guys and want to find a watch that's both decent enough that they might actually weaer it and cheap enough to get a lot. Looking at the Casio Duro at the moment. Looks like a pretty solid dive watch for $40. Any other suggestions?

>>17065641
i would not get them a watch but something else

>>17065641
It's a solid choice but a bit cheap. Get them some pagani design subs instead.

What the fuck were they thinking?

>>17065663
>let's go after the invicta market

Here’s my homos. The strap is really comfy, but thinking of getting a grey rubber as well.

Blancpain literally translates to white bread

>>17065669
Shave.

>>17065309
Nomos. But if you get the Junghans get a Form A. Looks so much better.

>>17065134
$20,000 eichi II when bros?

>>17065635
yeah and holy fuck they're just $2 so oh no if they suck

>>17065669
Does your hand turn purple after a few minutes of wearing it that tight?

>Vacheron Constantin says this is a "sports" watch because it's made out of stainless steel.

?

Best ceramic watches lads?

>>17065706
It's a sports watch in the oldest sense. "Sports" from the Old French word for "leisure".
As in, not a dress watch, a watch you wear while relaxing, perhaps watching sports.

>>17065719
Holy fuck so that's why it's called a sport coat
I am retarded

so anyways guys, what are you all cuffing while sitting in front of the TV, doing Sports?

>>17065742
ive posted my sports watch before, perhaps youve seen it?

>>17065673
Men don't shave their body hair you faggot

>>17065744
I really like this

>>17065744
I wish they made this in spring drive. The only way I'm getting a GS is if it's spring drive, I don't see a point to GS if it isn't spring drive.

>>17065457
They are excellent watches. If you have the opportunity, go for it.

>>17065754
How was the movie?

current wear - Nomos Tangente with Date

>>17065749
i really like you
>>17065753
its the legendary 9f, best quartz ever. they have the 30th anniversary next year, maybe theyll do a slew of watches i can get a hold of one. the hi-beat is also notable, and unique among watches, not many have a real hi-beat

>>17065762
Not interested. For me it's spring drive or bust. I wish I could get it in that case shape, with a power indicator on the dial. I know, I'm a monster. What's the ref on that thing anyway?

>>17065765
sbgv243
i dont really know if that case shape has a name, it looks like some 62 fever dream, and thats probably why i like it. perfect world i would have one of all the main type GS movements.

>>17065759

>>17065172
This is helpful, thank you.

>>17065754
hey fren, what watch would you buy right now if you could?

>>17065172
lmao @ the idea of fashion designer watches being "luxury" - mass produced ETA movements with the LV or RL logo on them

>>17065786
There's always someone this still replies to ancient bait.

>>17065495
>Ive worked my way up to the top 10% of earners in my country.
How do I make money?

you guys do know you can see the time on your phones, right?

>>17065828
Using a phone as a watch is a step back in technology to a pocket watch. Wrist watches were invented for a reason. If I wanted to use something obsolete I'd fuck your mom.

>>17065529
Yep all the LARPers have gobbled them up

>>17065828
i hate when people say this

>>17065680
SOON

>>17065811
get a skill that makes you useful in jobs that earn in the top 10% - also bullshit your way to it. I work in tech in the top 5% cohort. just be useful and not socially retarded

>>17065828
I rather look into the sun.

>>17065848
>just be useful and not socially retarded
Oh. Thanks anyways then

>>17065848
LARP

>>17065495
Nobody in that situation would try to school people on a fucking watch thread in 4chan.
Specially in a thread on /fa/

>>17065859
Being a top 10% earner isn't super rich money, here in canada it's low 6 figures. You can make that with a 2 year degree from a trade school.

>>17065867
Then why don't you do it?

>>17065864
I love and hate the dial on the daydate simultaneously. Nice batman too, though personally I prefer the pepsi. Your collection is pretty boring though, I mean they're all nice but nothing that really stands out. Is the daydate platinum or white gold?

>>17065869
I am doing it lol. Still have about 9 months left.

Got to try on a Patek Aquanaut yesterday. Did basically nothing for me. Really do not understand the hype on these.

>>17065890
name of watchbox?

>>17065893
Amazon shitter

>>17065890
Very nice and very boring. I'd love to have most of those though. I'd sell the AP, Patek, daytona and explorer and get interesting watches instead. Would trade the hulk for a cookie monster or a kermit.

>>17065891
was it for sale at retail? i want one so fucking bad but grey market is holding me back ;_;

>>17065873
thats a platinum daydate it looks like - has the light blue dial. they just recently introduced the fluted bezel on the platinum as well - used to be the platinum was smooth bezel only, which imo was kinda cool. i think they only did that because they couldnt make the fluted bezel in platinum for some reason

>>17065895
Smart man. I don't understand paying a premium for a fucking watch box.

>>17065891
I prefer it on a rubber band

>>17065899
No, secondary. price was $89k. If you haven't I would recommend seeing it in person. I too was interested in these until I saw one in my AD's preowned case. It also wasn't until I was able to handle it and place it on my wrist that I realized that I literally do not care about it. Completely cured my desire for one.

>>17065905
They had the rubber strap there too. Idk, I just found it very boring.

>>17065858
> LARP
sure, explain.

>>17065641
That seems like a decent idea. If you're okay with spending a bit more though
>>17065659
pagani design I believe has an option so you can customize a few of their watches. You could put the text or a logo on it. You'd be looking at I think 80 to 90 each though.

>>17065744
[spoiler]Ian???

>>17065858
What's so unbelievable about earning 6 figures? You think everyone went into social science or liberal arts like you did?

>>17065973
Not the guy you are talking to, but this is a very stupid generalization. Plenty of good paying jobs in the social sciences and arts. Plenty of shitty business and stem jobs.

>>17065498
>resell value
don't buy a watch if you intend to sell it again

>>17065973
Exactly. Top 5% is a shade over 300k. My last two w2s were 420 and 380. And I'm not even some high powered fuck. I'm a run of the mill senior engineer.

>>17065981
>the exception proves the rule.

>>17065891
well that might be because it looks like shit

>>17066009
Not an exception though. Most jobs of any type are shit regardless of field. The world is flooded with shitty lawyers and posturing hustle culture bros that are "maintaining their lifestyle" exclusively on credit.

I think if we want to talk about career paths that consistently result in strong ROI in terms of income you can't beat HVAC techs or plumbers.

>>17066000
Full house digits of truth

>>17066067
plumbers are just toilet doctors after all

>>17066067
It's really not hard to get a good paying job if you have a degree of sorts, a couple years of experience and have a triple digit IQ. I'm sorry your dumb ass went into architecture or whatever the fuck it is you do.

>>17066081
I studied Economics and international relations. Worked at the Fed, then went to private sector where I still am. I have several art friends from college also doing well though and some business school acquaintances who are doing glorified telemarketing on a contract basis. Idk what the business school monkeys are making, perhaps it is more than my friend that is a graphic designer but I don't think it's by that much.

One of my stem friends got an engineering degree from Columbia but ended up in the ass end of finance and yes, he is making over $150k, but he's also working 90hrs per week and is one of the most miserable people I know now.

Is this a redial?

>>17065134
I am sorry if I come across as retarded, I want to get into watches a bit but I am very uninitiated. I might be kinda late here.

I'm looking for a recommendation:

Budget: $1k or less
Watch type: Dress
Movement: Quartz or Automatic
Desired Feature: 2nd time zone
Preferred Strap Option: honestly I don't have a preference. Leather if it helps to have a preference.
Wrist size: 7 inches

>>17066104
Dress watches are generally simple watches, ideally they don't even have a second hand, let alone a second time zone.

>>17065134
Should I get a tudor pelagos>

>>17065674
That‘s my collection already. Gotta have to get a slightly different style now I guess.

>>17066134
no, buy a solid gold submariner

>>17066104
Check these out >>17065309

>>17066137
I aint got that kind of munny!

>>17066124
Fair, as I said I know very little I am a fool. I want formal-appropriate if that makes sense. I recently started my first job at a proper financial firm, albeit I don't make enough to justify spending a ton yet. I would love a watch that allows me to have my time zone as well as EST because I can more easily follow appropriate hours for contact as well as when the stock market opens.

>>17066138
Thank you anon I am using this as a starting reference.

>>17066141
You don't need a dress watch for a business setting. You can do with a sport watch. It's fine you don't understand any of this yet. Get yourself a GMT. Personally I would get one of those new seiko 5 GMTs.

>>17066147
not him, but those have just slave 24hr hand or the so called callers gmt functions?

>>17066150
No clue. It can still do what he wants and he honestly shouldn't spend too much cash yet on a watch he'll probably get rid of eventually at a loss. I can't think of any good watch for around 1k with a second timezone.

>>17066150
From a quick glance at an article it appears that the GMT hand can be set independently.

>>17066147
Okay that makes sense. Thank you anon. I am seeing GMTs recommended a lot for this. Glad to have a recommendation there are a lot of GMTs out there when searching.

>>17066165
Make sure to come back with what you find before making a purchase.

Last thread we observed that some Tissots have a Powermatic 80 movement with plastic parts that is available for $850 roughly.
The watch I confused it with was the Tissot Classic Dream Swissmatic for close to $500, does this also have plastic parts in the movement?

>>17066102
Doesn't look like it, but you should make yourself familiar enough with the ref to be able to spot one.

>>17066169
Based on your recommendation I think i'll go to a local dealer that supplies Seiko watches at some point in the next week so I can try some on. I am going out of town this weekend and have my first round of FINRA exams next week so I am not sure if I have time yet. I might celebrate passing all 3 required exams by getting a good watch. Thank you, you've done me a great service.

Thoughts on Squale?

>>17066175
Actually found a review page and people there were not so happy with it: it seems to have non-servicable parts and wears out after 3 years

Meme day, meme time.

>>17066104
It's not exactly a dress watch and you'd have to look around and buy a used one if you want to go under 1k but maybe you'll like it. It's also 42mm across so it's at the upper end of what your wriat can take. Go to a Seiko boutique and try one out before you buy one. This >>17066147 is a bit cheaper i'm guessing so perhaps it's more to your liking.

>>17066175
Just check the number of jewels the movement has, avoid 23 and look for 25.

Fuck you WT. All I think now is:
>Cope
>cope
>Cope
I used to enjoy watches.

>>17066272
That word has been brought up a total of five times in this thread; your post has three of them.

this is the best anti-magnetic watch i could find for under 3k. is there anything else?

>>17065213
No.

>>17065414
You're on a fashion board. All those words and still saying nothing. Wew lad.

>>17066277
Yeah, but at the curse of several threads I've probably read it hundreds of times.

>>17066272
>being influenced by mental bots
never could have made it

>>17066284
I thought those lower end sinns didn't have hardened cases, or is this some modification that makes it cost closer to 3k instead the usual 1k+?

>>17066272
If you want to hear positivity about every kind of watch, go to WUS. It's just a stream of
>Just pulled the trigger on my latest grail!
>Wear it in good health, brother!
>Mine says hi!

This place is honest. If your collection is full of shitters, we will say so. If your collection is boring and uncreative like >>17065890, we will say so.
Trolls will take advantage to stir shit up, but if you can't tell the difference between criticism and trolling or if you can't tolerate the fact that only about 10% of posts on this thread are good, then maybe the internet itself is not for you.

>>17065414
>Watches are vapid shit and mean nothing in actual success or life.
Yes, did someone actually make you believe that an expensive watch will make you successful, lmao, dumb faggot
>You are all vacuous consumers and amount to nothing by being here.
We like discussing and shitposting about watches, this is true for almost all online interactions, what kind of fucking divine intervention did you hope to find here
>It's literally jewellery. It means nothing and it's just designed to take your money.
it's literally jewellery, do you need a link to a vocabulary so you could post some other of your obvious observations?
kys nigger

>>17066308
Tegimented means hardened in Sinn-speak, I think?

Guess the car company this watch was designed for

>>17066315
>Yes, did someone actually make you believe that an expensive watch will make you successful, lmao, dumb faggot
Fool, half the people here who have expensive watches expect to receive respect. It's a highly common delusion. It's more than just one silly anon.

>>17066326
The other half want head pats for how much they didn't spend on their watch. Its almost as if people come here to write about their watch. Weird, huh?

>>17066322
well yeah, I'm just wondering if this is some upgraded version that costs more than they usually do, or is the one posted in pic the regular one that apparently then always had the tegimented case and costs like one would expect (somewhere over 1k)
you can't see the price in pic and he mentioned under 3k

>>17066326
>being so delusional that you hope your one out the million+ rolexes made every single year deserves respect
LMAO, run of the mill shitters btfo, should have gotten a Journe or Dufour, maybe then someone would find a drop of respect for their sorry asses

>>17066337
it's 2.2k

it has a faraday cage so it's antimagnetic. its also 40mm, as opposed to 38mm on the 1k ones.

>>17066339
also the smaller ones dont have hardened versions

>>17066339
ah yeah, my bad, thought it was a 556 and not 856, looked very similar

My Casio watch (LCW-M170TD) keeps signalling the hour even though the signal is off. Is there some way to give it a factory reset?

just copped these unironically

>>17065529
>misaligned seconds hand
Fucking christ

>>17066373
does it beep when you leave the house?

>>17066175
isnt the plastic for antimagnetic properties?

>>17066352
Are you sure? Does it say sig off? I'll try and search for the instruction manual.

>>17066352
https://manuall.co.uk/casio-radio-controlled-lcw-m170td-1aer-watch/
https://www.manuals.ca/casio/radio-controlled-lcw-m170td-7aer/manual

>>17066386
No, it's for ease of manufacturing and reducing costs. Delrin (the compound they use) can be very easily and accurately cut with low-power lasers. It also does not require lubrication, which is why the brake in the Speedmaster's movement was made of Delrin for years.

Yes, plastic parts in Speedmasters even before the Moonswatch.

>here comes the shitpost flood...

Are there any watches with a synthetic diamond crystal instead of sapphire? I know it's used in some lab equipment so it could theoretically be made.

>>17066405
No

>>17065864
These are all really nice but the collection a way whole just feels soulless.

>>17066406
Interesting, thought that might be a thing. Not that it's more functional than sapphire in any way and it's probably even harder to work with, but with watch marketing and all it seemed like someone would have done it.

>>17066384
it beeps when the digimon evolves

>>17066237
Nice. That's a huge G-Shock and it doesn't look big on you. Are you a chunky monkey?

>>17066412
Als has a diamond somewhere in many of their movements, thats about it tho

>>17066272
Everything is a "cope" and the people who say "cope" are projecting.

>>17066311
>>Mine says hi!
If I ever say this I would kill myself.

>>17066323
Alfa

>>17066102
>>17066178
What are the telltale signs of a redialed watch?

>>17066457
>What are the telltale signs of a redialed watch?
If it's done well, it's really impossible to tell, but dead giveaways are if there's corrosion on the hands but none on the dial, if it comes in a color that was never sold by the factory (India is famous for these) or if the case and the dial are from different eras.

The good news is that if it was a one-to-one swap as part of a full restoration, then the seller will often disclose that, since they will likely be charging a ton, since good restoration work is definitely not cheap.

>>17066415

>>17065890
Rich and tasteless

>>17066288
wearing a dive watch at the beach doesn't make you a diver

>>17066311
>>Mine says hi!
Well mine literally does.

>>17066483
They’re reps.

>>17066492

>>17066405
Yes
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/unique-titanium-patek-philippe-flawless-diamond-case-back-sothebys-new-york

>>17066490
wearing a watch on the toilet thankfully does not make it a shitter either

>>17066507
How is this an eleven year old Patek, to the time of the pic was taken, and yet, it looks beaten to shit? And I'm not talking just about the case, but the dial looks dirty or even corroded.

>>17066507
The case literally looks like some cheap field watch shitter.

>>17065134
>36-40mm, light dial, gold body, brown leather strap
>5 ATM WR is my minimum, I don't want to have to care about it getting wet or not
>preferences:
>- no numerals or roman numerals
>- thin case, 12mm and upwards looks thick to me but can work if the case itself is flat (e.g. 2mm bezel, 8mm case, 3mm case back)
>- automatic movement
>- dauphine hands or other "fine" looking hands
>- few complications, day and/or date is okay, but I can do fine without
>- budget is $500 to $1500 per watch
sorry if this is the 4th post or so, maybe just the post form is broken for me

>>17066527
Citizen BI5072-01A
- movement: quartz
- case diameter: 40.5mm
+ case thickness: 7.8mm
o water resistance: 5 ATM
+ strap width: 20mm
price: EUR 90
rating: 0

>>17066527
Citizen BM8553-16AE
+ movement: quartz eco-drive (I definitely want a watch with this technology at some point)
- case diameter: 41.8mm
o case thickness: 10mm
+ water resistance: 10 ATM
- strap width: 22mm
price: EUR 150
rating: 0
> considering this, but it seems to be way too huge
> alternative: some Orient Bambino, but I can not examine it at the local store

>>17066527
Jacques Lemans Classic 1-2073F
+ movement: automatic
o case diameter: 40mm
- case thickness: 11.8mm
+ water resistance: 10 ATM
+ strap width: 20mm
- meme brand
- rose gold, I don't like the hand style
price: EUR 220
rating: 0

>>17066527
Escapement time KS hommage on aliexpress, the 36mm one

>>17066527
Mido Belluna II M0244073603100
+ movement: automatic
o case diameter: 40mm
o case thickness: 11mm
o water resistance: 5 ATM
- strap width: 21mm (could work with a 20mm strap?)
price: EUR 920
rating: 0
the dial could look weird, or is that the render?

>>17065150
>rose gold
>men
Top kek. You fruity fashion faggots are funny, gay little queers.

>>17066527
Frederique Constant FC-303V5B4
+ movement: automatic
o case diameter: 40mm
o case thickness: 10.2mm
o water resistance: 5 ATM
+ strap width: 20mm
- not available at my local store, will have to ask them to order, or blind buy from chrono24
price: EUR 980
rating: +1
> my favorite so far

>>17066527
Seiko SRPD42J1
+ movement: automatic
- case diameter: 41mm
- case thickness: 12mm
- water resistance: 3 ATM
+ strap width: 20mm
price: EUR 440
rating: -1
pretty bad considering my requirements and I already have a Seiko

>>17066527
on those two my own rating is better, but the printed indices piss me off so much that they are basically ruled out:
Junghans Meister Automatic 27705202
+ movement: automatic
+ case diameter: 37.7mm
+ case thickness: 7.3mm
o water resistance: 5 ATM
+ strap width: 20mm
-- printed indices
price: EUR 1240
rating: +2

Junghans Max Bill Automatic 27700202
+ movement: automatic
+ case diameter: 38mm
o case thickness: 10mm
o water resistance: 5 ATM
+ strap width: 20mm
-- printed indices
price: EUR 1240
rating: +1

the watches are similar enough

>>17066451
Naa

>>17066547
Everything by younghands pisses me off
Like the mido and Freddie constant

>>17066527
This hamilton is nice
https://www.jomashop.com/hamilton-intra-matic-mens-watch-h38475751.html
Maybe this mido
https://www.jomashop.com/mido-multifort-watch-m0384313603100.html
Or
https://www.jomashop.com/mido-baroncelli-watch-m0274263601800.html
Maybe this if you don't find the date complication to busy
https://www.jomashop.com/mido-belluna-ii-automatic-silver-dial-mens-watch-m0244073603109.html
Another Hamilton
https://www.jomashop.com/hamilton-watch-h42445551.html

>>17065457
There's no catch. Grand Seiko and JLC are the best value by far in luxury watchmaking. Hell you can get a perpetual calendar from them for under $20k if you are a true complication junkie.

>>17065669
Nomos OEM straps are really exceptional. I recommend the velour straps if you don't want the horween. They're light, buttery soft and durable. I think the light grey suede would look awesome with your watch.

>>17065786
I don't blame you for not knowing this, but both LV and RL have mind-boggling HH offerings. In fact LV has made multiple Geneva seal watches over the years. I think this is pretty bizarre since they churn out entry level ETA dogshit as well, but it's because they have two master watchmakers on board who they just give carte blanche to do whatever they want in extremely limited quantities while they catch plebs with the entry level shitters. Pretty based actually.

RL is a bit of a different story but still brings out the rare highly complicated and desirable watch as long as you can get over the name on the dial.

What is Patek a cope of?

>>17066527
A few other random watches
You should probably get this junghans, its got a nicer movement in a higher grade than the ones you posted, in fact it's the only watch that's come up so far with an eta 2892-2 in it
https://www.jomashop.com/junghans-meister-classic-automatic-mens-watch-027-7333-00.html
https://www.jomashop.com/edox-automatic-black-dial-watch-80106-37rc-gir.html
https://www.jomashop.com/zeno-jules-classic-white-dial-mens-watch-4942-2824-pgrg2.html

>>17066569
those are all quite huge. Also had an eye on the Midi Baroncelli, but the 3 ATM put off. Thanks for the suggestions!

>>17066579
Open-worked curving watch made of titanium and a proprietary carbon alloy with a flying tourbillon and a Geneva seal

>>17066591
It looks ugly though, would never buy it.

>>17066580
There are a surprising number of levels of sub-cope within Patek.

If you own a non-complication one, that's just a cope for a complication, which is a cope of a grand complication, which is a cope for vintage pieces, which are cope for unique pieces, and so forth, but a non-complication rare vintage might not be a cope for a modern grand complication, etc. Different complications are cope for each other, like perpetual calendars or minute repeaters. It just goes on and on.

Pateks are a crazy world.

>>17066373

>>17066596
It's a $300,000 watch. Most of their HH watches are bespoke or pre-allocated. They're typically not for mortals like you or I. You could argue that no one in good taste would spend so much on a LV watch but at least they're making unique stuff with technically impeccable movements.

u mad gweilo?

>>17066591
That's not 99.9% of what they make. They pay another company to make 5 of those for them and get back to cranking out quartz shitters.

That's like a halo sports car. Because Mercedes also makes that AMG One, people think their leased GLA is "basically a supercar".

>>17066603
>>17066580
>Calatrava is obvious cope for an actual expensive/desirable patek
>Aquanaut is cope for nautilus
>Nautilus is royal oak cope
>date/chrono/any other complication is cope for perpetual calendar
>perpetual calendar is cope for minute repeater
>minute repeater is not cope... Until the first time you show someone the chimes and see how little they care, then it's cope for spending 250k on a hobby anyone else in the world gives a shit about

>>17066549
Fucking lmao

>>17066618
Louis Vuitton bought a Swiss watch manufacturer over 10 years ago. Your exact same argument could be made for Patek or any other high end brand.
>Because Patek makes a grand complication, that means my entry level Calatrava is haute horlogerie!
No sweaty it doesn't.

>>17066625
>Your exact same argument could be made for Patek or any other high end brand.
No it literally couldn't because Patek IS the high end brand that LV wants to be.

If you can't keep up with the conversation, you're going to have to sit at the kids' table.

>>17066311
>>Just pulled the trigger on my latest grail!
> latest grail

well that's an oxymoron, since the very nature of a 'grail' would entail it be a singular prize of the highest worth, that one is working toward with great effort

>>Mine says hi!

for some reason this reminds me of the women who posted pictures of their baby Yodas when the Mandalorian came out, or those pit-mom's who share pics of their new pitbulls a couple of days before the dog rips their face off

i suppose it's the same mentality, anthropomorphising and making an infant or child out of something which ain't never going to be an actual baby, which now i think about it, is likely what such folk are doing; sublimating their maternal/paternal drives with material objects and pets in a vain attempt to fill that need which western culture has been systematically discouraging for several decades now

tragic really

but also quite sickening in its perversity

>>17066631
LV doesn't want to be that brand. I can guarantee you that watches make up less than 10% of their annual revenue. LVMH owns Bulgari, Zenith, Hublot, and Tag Heuer. LV churns out HH pieces with geneva seals because they have more money than god and because they can.

Just for reference and because it's interesting, revenue figures for 2021
>Patek 1.5b CHF
>AP 1.6b
>Omega 2.2b
>Cartier 2.4b
>Rolex 8.1b

Patek, AP, and Rolex are all independent. What did LVMH make in 2021? 64 BILLION euros in revenue. Now they own a lot of brands so that number is misleading, but 30 billion euros is solely from fashion. Dior, Chanel, and LV are the big earners. Even a conservative estimate would mean that LV is making more than Patek, AP, Omega, and Cartier put together. You really think they couldn't put out some good watches if they wanted to? LVMH could literally afford to buy every watch brand that exists.

>>17066639
>Just for reference and because it's interesting, revenue figures for 2021
>Patek 1.5b CHF
>AP 1.6b
>Omega 2.2b
>Cartier 2.4b
>Rolex 8.1b
Oh boy, shouldn't have posted that. The Rolex posters are going to have a field day with this one

Fuck i think I'm gonna consoom this cartier soon.

>>17066635
Yeah, it's meant to be one of those obnoxious "WIS" things that makes Watchuseek so fucking annoying.
The only thing it's good for is buying watches for pennies on the dollar from guys who overextended themselves.

>>17066639
Sorry, Chanel is not owned by LVMH yet. There were rumors of an acquisition but never went through. Was thinking of Fendi.

>>17066644
If that's the solar one, don't get your hopes up, it's been discontinued already.

When will chronoswiss stop making ugly crap and bring back the delphis

>>17066652
Nah i want the quartz one, don't trust the solar long term.

>>17066639
>HH pieces with geneva seals

Imagine thinking that the Geneva Seal means anything. Patek Philippe stopped submitting their stuff for a Geneva Seal and...nothing happened. It's just a protectionist attempt at a standard, little more than a protection racket.
>Awfully nice minute repeater you got there...be a real shame if we didn't certify it with the official certification of the official Geneva Seal of Geneva, officially. No one would know how nice it really is.

>>17066652
Good.
FUCK (((vegan))) leather

>>17066654
ChronoSwiss...neither a chronograph nor a chronometer. Stupid name.

>>17066657
they stopped submitting their stuff for a Geneva seal to move to their own seal and cut costs by reducing the quality of their finishing on all their pieces except for minute repeaters, perpetuals, and grand complications

The Geneva Seal might have a lot of bullshit politicking surrounding it, but it's infinitely more useful than Patek simply making up their own seal and stamping it on their watches. Now THAT is fucking retarded.

>>17066659
Chrono by itself means time if i'm not mistaken.

>>17066662
The seal doesn't mean everything. They submit one watch, and thats the end of it. Theres no follow up or verification of standards. Its like submitting one sample to cosc for chrono cert and calling it good.

>>17066664
And Swiss means "From Switzerland". It's actually a great name. No more having to strain your eyes to see the tiny "Swiss Made" at the 6 o'clock position.

Patek Philippe is the only brand I can think of that will release a $40k+ machine finished watch and people will still simp for the company. I don't get it.

>>17066572
For me JLC and GS also have the same problem of having incredible watch making execute on the inside but when it comes to the dials and cases I find them boring and uninspired. The JLC reversos with the Renaissance masters on the flip side and their pointer dates are probably my favorites but everything else they make looks so "meh"

>>17066662
>they stopped submitting their stuff for a Geneva seal to move to their own seal and cut costs by reducing the quality of their finishing on all their pieces except for minute repeaters, perpetuals, and grand complications
And their sales weren't hurt at all. That's so weird, right?

>>17066672
>JLC has boring cases and dials.
Oh, don't say that. One of the faggots who lives in this thread will get very upset because he bought one. Even though he claims he buys pieces because he likes them and fuck everyone else's opinion, he still gets his panties in a knot if someone doesn't like his watches.

>>17066673
It's not weird because the vast majority of people don't even know they're doing it. You have to dig deep into obscure mostly dead watch forums before people admit that Patek quality and quality control has steeply dropped off on everything lower than a minute repeater.

>>17066671
>Patek Philippe is the only brand I can think of that will release a $40k+ machine finished watch and people will still simp for the company. I don't get it.
Never heard of Rolex?

>>17066672
I don't get how you can say this when GS often ruins watches with how flashy and busy their dials are. GS dials are lots of things but I wouldn't call them boring.
>>17066676
>Never heard of Rolex?
They don't pretend they're hand-finishing all their watches and if you're paying $40k retail you're buying something in precious metal.

>>17066675
You don't have to dig deep at all. Patek's four tiers of finishing is common knowledge among people who can afford a Patek.
I don't think Patek cares about what the Timex demographic knows or believes about them.

>>17066678
No it isn't. I can tell you're autistic but most people, even those who buy Patek, do not religiously browse and consume watch media. If they did, they would just buy a Saxonia which mogs the Calatrava on every level.

>>17066672
I guess it's on the dial side. Still really cool though. The Rembrandt one is my favorite. Wish they would do more stuff like this instead of boring polaris or calatrava homages

>>17066681
>accusing others of autism
>uses the term "mogs" unironically
I think you've been on the internet quite enough for this lifetime. Time to go outside and see the sun.

>>17066687
Not an argument. I accept your concession. Next time think before you post.

>>17066681
>many people are only now just learning about this
So how many days ago did you find out? lmao

>>17066690
A non-argument doesn't merit anything more than a shitpost response. You don't know shit about Patek because they don't market to your impoverished demographics. You should stick to posting about stuff you know, like Casios or fentanyl.

>Patek simps coming out of the woodwork
Why would you defend the most prestigious watchmaker in the world deliberately lowering their standards while simultaneously raising prices into the stratosphere?

>>17066698
I applaud them for doing it. The more expensive they are, the fewer middle-class strivers will think they can buy one.

>>17066697
What's wrong? You still can't come up with an argument? That's not surprising because there really is no defending Patek. They're greedy and out of touch. ALS has already far supplanted them in quality.

>>17066700
>ALS has already far supplanted them in quality.
OK, post yours. That's how you know the quality is there, right? You're not just going off pictures you see on the internet right? That would be preposterous.

Actually, fuck it. Post ANY watch you own. You're funny as hell.

>>17066698
You've got poor people simping for Patek and poor people sour-grapes'ing Patek. /wt/ is moving up in the world. We usually do this with Grand Seiko.

Furlan Marri is coming out with an all mechanical watch soon. Will you get it? I'm probably going to get one of the mecha-quartz chronos when they're back in stock. New watch looks like a time only dress piece from the teasers.

>>17066711
>Will you get it?
Microshitter? Nah. I'd rather just throw my money out the window and skip the middle step of owning such a piece of shit.

>>17066698
PP was indisputably the best watch manufacturer for what? A hundred years? More? But other brands have started to catch up in pretty big ways. Lange is the obvious one that could easily replace PP, AP, or VC in the trinity. The advent of the internet means you can also easily buy a complete masterpiece from an independent like H. Moser. All the holy trinity companies have been dragging their feet big time over the last decade or so propped up by the steel sportswatch bullshit.

>>17066718
>All the holy trinity companies have been dragging their feet big time over the last decade or so propped up by the steel sportswatch bullshit.
Each in their own way.

PP has leaned into exclusivity and seems to be actively trying to get away from steel
AP has basically changed its name to RO by now
VC has basically always been JLC + better finishing but at least has Richemont money to keep it afloat.

>>17066724
>AP tries to escape their Royal Oak hell by releasing the Code 11:59
>gets bitch slapped by every journalist and everyone on the internet
>goes back to releasing Royal Oak variation #962
I almost feel bad for them. Almost.

>>17066507
Not what I was expecting, but very impressive. Though if a watch company were to use a round synthetic diamond instead of a cut natural diamond the price should only be 2 to 4 times the price of sapphire according to Rayotek sight windows' technical info page. Assuming production of such crystals isn't too much of an issue it could easily be had in some high end luxury watch brand's top of the line model.

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>>17066817
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>>17066639
I don't think you should include cartier in this chart because probably the majority of their revenue is jewelry, not watches.