/fa/ - Fashion

>>17063322
The new Fragrance Groups 101 chart

>>17063322
The fragrance flowchart for beginners.

First for deer musk
Why aren't you wearing the secretions of animals on your skin yet /frag/?

Even when i'm not going anywhere i would spray a fragrance on my wrist just to smell it from time to time. Anyone else does this?

Reposting from old thread, posted just before new.

Mid 20s here, never used any perfume/eau du toilette before, just used a ck euphoria deodorant stick.
Looking for something general / all purpose.

Terre d'Hermes
Bleu de Chanel
Acqua di Gio
Luna Rossa Carbon or Ocean

All these seem interesting, what do you guys rec?
Also do I get eau du toilette or perfume?

>>17063370
Yes, everyone that posts here, most also spray some fresh on before bed so they can enjoy the smell as they fall asleep

>>17063372
You got all the answers you needed last thread.
>edt vs perfume
They are different smelling versions of the same scent so you have to smell them and see which one you like more.

>>17063372
Terre d'Hermes, BdC and Luna rossa carbon are good year round i think, acqua di gio is more of a summer scent if i'm correct. Also it is the oldest one so maybe look at other frags from the line.
>Also do I get eau du toilette or perfume?
Depends, sometimes the EDT and parfume differ and can give off a slightly different scent so it is best to try all versions and determine based on that.

>/frag/ is now recommending TDH to 20 year olds
Is there any good posters left?

>>17063397
I'm 24 and wear Azzaro Pour Homme.

>>17063372
>Luna Rossa Carbon
I love the top notes, but it dries too quickly and all that is left is the ambroxan smell

>>17063403
Yeah and i wear antaeus
That doesn't mean you should be telling random mid 20s dudes to wear tdh or drakkar noir

>>17063409
What are a mid 20s dude's options out of popular designer scents?
What's the stuff I shouldn't wear?

>>17063372
>>17063263
Bleu and Gio are both safe choices, have both of them.
As for Bleu get the EdP. Gio you should see what you like most, Gio EdT, Profumo or Profondo.
Profumo is usually rated best but in blind tests Profondo performs better, while both can be polarizing. Gio EdT is the inoffensive safe and cheaper choice.
Go to a store and try these frags but keep in mind you can go "blind" so maybe take testers with you.
Also maybe Dylan Blue is another alternative, similar crowd pleaser but less common.

What are some really dry, "deserty" frags aside from L'air du desert marocain and Soleil brulant

>>17063422
https://ayliroma.com/

>>17063422
au coeur du desert

>>17063422
annick goutal ambre fetiche
shl 777 Taklamakan
ambre sultan, ambre loup maybe? seems like amber based frags anyways

>>17063409
>>17063397
idk, I'm 24 and tdh was the first frag I bought. it's really not that challenging or old mannish, it's a modern designer bestseller after all and he picked it out himself as something he might be interested in
not everyone had to go through five generic blue frags before they can actually buy something good

anyone tried this?

>>17063444
I'd probably just buy M01 since I'd be afraid of somehow getting a differently mixed iso e super or a bottle that's not quite the same as what EM uses if I ordered something else

>>17063372
All of those are good on their own, Bleu de Chanel EdP probably has the highest versatility and is also the most generic, although AdG is pretty close in popularity.
Luna Rossa Carbon has crowdpleaser DNA, TdH is more unique than the others, but more mature.
Really just test them all at a store or something, but if you just want to blind-buy, BdC EdP is the safest.

>>17063409
Drakkar Noir just smells like a greener version of shaving cream, I see no issue with that. 20 year olds shave, right?

>>17063413
Go to a store and sniff stuff, buy whatever you like. Simple as. I'm early 30s and I'm well past most popular stuff. Used Le Male for the longest time before that.

>>17063439
TDH is the official fragrance of balding 40 year old mid level office workers

>>17063444
Yes it's the exact same thing
>>17063450
What the fuck is going to be different about it? Iso e super is iso e super. That's all that is in molecule 1

>>17063456
>Iso e super is iso e super.
Sometimes people fuck around with concentrations, added bullshit and whatever. Honestly it's not like M01 is even expensive to begin with, I'd understand if the price was Creed-tier but it's designer-tier.

>>17063459
Yeah pay $80 a bottle for a dime worth of ingredients. It's only the most egregious markup in all of perfumery.

>>17063469
Yes but it's also cheap anyway. Some much more expensive frags feel like more of a ripoff despite being more complex

>>17063456
Wasn't it something about only using a specific isomer of ISO-E Super? You can probably buy a racemic mixture and get the same results if you just use more, but some isomers might also smell different.

After trying on The Dreamer a second time and comparing it to Boss Bottled (for some reason it made me think of it so I'm comparing them) I'm realizing it doesn't smell generic at all as I originally thought. What's that note in The Dreamer that's quite strong, both fresh yet somehow very rounded and soft? Boss Bottled smells woody and "generic masculine" if that makes sense, The Dreamer is much more peculiar and specific but I can't put my hand on why

This is what weponised autism looks like. Went in, noted down 29 frags, left without buying shit.

Not in a particular order, just smelled after4 hours from spraying
>Versace Eau Fraiche: 7/10
>ADG Absolu: 6/10
>JPG ultramale edt 4/10
>Versace Eros EDT 5/10
>Kenzo EDT 6/10
>Joop! homme 3/10 imagine wearing this shit
>VW spicebomb 6/10
>YVS 1/10 piss+old man lol
>Versace Dylan blue 7/10
>JPG le beau 5/10
>Armani code edt 5/10
>Jil Sander Sunmen 3/10
>ADG edt 7/10
>Versace eros flame 7/10
>JPG le male edt 5.5/10
>YSL la nuit de l'omme 7/10
>YSL edp (?) 6.5/10
>D&G the one edt 6/10
>Paco Rabanne phantom edt 8/10 really impressed me
>Mugler Alien man fusion edt 5/10
>D&G light blue edt 7.5/10
>Bvlgari aqva adt 6.5/10
>ADG profondo 7/10
>ADG EDP 7/10
>Calvin Klein one 5/10
>Aesop hwill 5/10 if you want to smell exactly like a pine tree it's a 10
>Paco Rabanne 1 million 5/10
>Montblanc explorer 7/10
>Davidoff Cool Water 7/10 I will sample it until I like it

>>17063492
kek

Storing in fridge if you have very hot summers, y/n?

>>17063488
The dreamer is one of those designer frags that is very unusual and very "artistic", and i think it cannot be compared to anything on the market. That's part of the reason i like it. Really has a fitting name

>>17063444
no there are differences in iso e supers. I have molecule 01 here and iso for perfumes. They smell different and you cant get the exact same iso on the market

>>17063499
Do you think it's more of a winter scent? I think it doesn't smell very light or fresh, but at the same time I wouldn't call it warm or overbearing either. Quite odd

>>17063500
Smelling pure iso e super would probably be different, molecule 01 isnt pure concentrated iso e, that would be very irritating for skin.
I get your point though.

>>17063488
>both fresh yet somehow very rounded and soft
Probably iris in combo with the other things. Amber note will also add sweet and soft feel.
You'll recognize iris if you smell Prada l'homme

>>17063503
I think it leans more to the cooler side, the tobacco makes it more fitting for that weather. I would avoid it on hot summer days, but i really like wearing it out during a summer night

>>17063513
Yeah, I think you're right. I think it would be a good date scent too.
>>17063511
Maybe. Some people also say The Dreamer is powdery, might play a role too. I smell literally zero tobacco though.

>>17063474
No thst was bullshit some anon made up, they just use iso e super, it says it right on their website

>>17063492
>>Paco Rabanne phantom edt 8/10 really impressed me
how old are you?

>>17063492
Based, this is how you make the perfume store your bitch

>>17063492
what's YVS?

>>17063492
>Paco Rabanne phantom edt 8/10 really impressed me
I keep telling people it's really good. There are a bunch of people that hate this frag just cause the bottle and ad campaign are stupid but it smells good.
Also good ratings in general you have good taste

>>17063499
Dreamer at first to me was mostly a nice and fairly interesting medicinal sweetness, but over time I've notced more facets about it, a floral freshness, ambery booziness, tobacco warmth. In the late drydown (usually after I wake up) even something of cardamom.

What are some ethereal, otherwordly scents for men?
Versace dreamer gets described as such i heard.
Also I read the notes on Lalique Hommage à L'Homme and that one seems like it would also fit the description.

Any other recommendations?

>>17063520
23. That shit looks cringe but smells expensive and sweet but cool.
To this day, the best frag I have ever smelled is still my first and only frag I blind bought: Fahrenheit edt.
>>17063521
even if I find something I want to buy I'll buy it online saving money lol fuck them
>>17063523
Yves Saint Laurent
>>17063529
Yeah I was surprised. The bottle is so repugnant though

>>17063523
oh nvm I forgot to type in that one.
>YVS 1/10 piss+old man lol

oh nvm I forgot to type in that one.
>YVS Kouros 1/10 piss+old man lol

>>17063536
Bois imperial
Ganymede
Odeur 71 from cdg, actually just a shit load of cdg frags

>>17063517
Yup, definitely a unique scent that will leave an impression, but for a date maybe go lighter with the sprays, for me i think that even 2 can be overpowering
>>17063532
I really like that tobacco powerdy-ness it has i don't know how else to describe it but that blend is just so awesome

>>17063552
>even 2 can be overpowering
Really. I did 2 sprays on my inner arm 30 minutes ago and either I get noseblind very fast or it's not that strong a scent.

>>17063536
>ethereal, otherwordly scents for men
>Versace dreamer
eh, i mean dreamer is nice but it stinks so cheap - for a designer scent sure

i feel like naomi's nuit de bakelite has that "etheral" component in it due to its complexity

>>17063498
please respond

>>17063452
>Drakkar Noir just smells like a greener version of shaving cream, I see no issue with that. 20 year olds shave, right?
yeah, I don't think that frag's old school macho reputation is deserved honestly. I think it's just because of the edgy name and bottle and the fact that it used to be so popular in the 1980s
but the scent itself is pleasant and quite calming

>>17063547
trust me, kouros needs to be tested on skin and it needs to breath for a while

>>17063539
>but smells expensive and sweet but cool
For me it's just a synthetic sweet mess.

>>17063498
Yes. The dry cold and dark of a fridge actually preserve frags well, so don't worry about that, and the cooling sensation of spraying on a refrigerated frag is lovely.

>>17063554
Maybe it performs differently on my skin but i tend to catch whiffs of it all the time while wearing it, like literally i don't get noseblind, which does not happen with other frags

>>17063572
I once sprayed kouros on my skin and that was an experience imo. It was so weird and the whole time i couldn't decide if i hated it or wanted to get a bottle asap. It is a interesting mix and it was like smelling a public toilet but yet you couldn't hate the smell, like morbid curiosity when something is disgusting but you can't not look at it, or in this case, smell it

>>17063579
>dry cold
Fridges are very humid. If I put my bottles in there I can feel the glass is humid which means condensation. Can't be good

>>17063581
Maybe I got a fake, doubt it though since I ordered on notino. Or maybe it's been diluted to shit since the first editions, I heard they're going to discontinue it soon anyway.

>>17063444
Yeah, I bought it 2 weeks ago and I absolutely love to layer with it.

>>17063588
Fridges are dry. Must be your fridge, I don't get condensation on stuff in mine. Maybe you have a leak, or open it too frequently/for too long.

>>17063473
yeah but you can't make a creed frags in 5 minutes using two ingredients, anon

>>17063492
there's no way you can accurately judge 29 frags at once, especially on pieces of paper. they all start blending into one soon
it's better to spray like 4 on different parts of your arms and go

>>17063606
Nah no leak. But when you leave bottles in for a long time, the surface is humid, not dry. Thought that was inevitable. I see small droplets at the back of the fridge so maybe mines fucked up idk

>>17063588
If you don't have a large collection then get a small insulated lunch box or cooler to store them in the fridge. That'll keep them cool and seal out the humidity.

Mogs all other fig fragrances

>>17063492
Well done anon

I’m 28 and only few months ago I realized that I was living in a bubble.
So for the last 3 months I smelled and tested in total over 150 fragrances until I found what I liked.

>>17063492
now you need to smell everything on skin since testers are shit,

>>17063492
Based sampling. It's what I always tell people, just going into a store and testing stuff.
I prefer on skin than on paper, but it can give you a good overview, anyway.

>>17063498
No. Doesn't really matter unless it's permanently 35 °C or some shit. Just keep them away from sunlight.
Fridge would only be worth it if you plan to store them for years.

>>17063554
The Dreamer was weak af on me, so I concur.

>>17063559
This I'd also back - it smells unique, but still kinda cheap.

>>17063624
Yeah good idea I put them in those zippable bags with aluminum foil-like inside

>>17063650
>years
I had a Bleu de Chanel EDP in a random drawer. Never stored it in the fridge. It's still good almost 6 years later
Also same thing for A&F Fierce but I do feel like it has deteriorated a bit and doesn't smell the same ever since I left it in a bag which was itself in the sun. No direct sunlight but it still smells off now.

>>17063492
>tested 29 frags on paper
>0 on skin

yah autistic is an understatement

>>17063617
If you are scared of condensation, just put your frag in an air-sealed bag in the fridge.

>>17063592
I ordered one from Notino not too long ago myself (50ml version), and it's a good performer for me. I spray it on in the evening, can still smell it after waking up in the morning. And it's rather powerful for the first hours too, on clothes it stays pretty strong for even longer.

>>17063614
I have no intentions of walKing 7 km+ every day for like weeks to sample them all. Paper is not as accurate but it gives you the idea most of the times. I want to smell the most frags I can.
by the way, I wasn't even halfway done, I just had to leave cause they were closing the shop. I'll be back though idc.
>>17063646
LET'S FUCKING GOOOO
>>17063635
what do they expect, that we are gonna walk in, try out 4 frags max just by their names and give them 80 bucks? fuck no.
>>17063672
>test 29 frags on the skin

>>17063677
>test 0 frags on skin
>be retarded 100% of the time
>verification not required

Really love BR540 Extrait, BR540 EDP smells too airy and feminine for my tastes. But then thought "Am i really about to spend $370 on 70mL of a frag?" kinda hard to justify.

>>17063691
>t. the mad frag shop employee that insistently asks me if I'm gonna buy something (I won't)

>>17063677
I mean testing 4 frags a day is pretty much the sofit limit, unless you are wearing shorts ( why the fuck are you on fa if you do), in which case you can test up to 6 frags a day, but you will look like an absolute fucking autist

>>17063702
70mls of extrait is litterly going to last you like 10 years assuming you own other fragrances.

>>17063705
imagine walking inside in shorts and sampling on your knees lmaoo I call it samplemaxx

>>17062947
Is it as dark and introverted as the original EN? I want something with the same cold/solitary vibe, but for summer.

>>17063719
no. It's brighter, with citrus. Pretty sure you asked about muh dark / cold / introverter whatever buzzword you thought up of earlier, and gotten shitload of recommendations

Yo anyone oud crazy?

>>17063709
Ah, that's true. It'll probably also motivate me to sell off some of my shoes and frags i've been meaning to send off.

>>17063723
I'm not the same guy, didn't check other replies

>>17063733
also assuming you live in a 1st world country there is surely a fintech that allows you to split payments into 3-4 installments

>>17063737
Fragrance General #779 you have shitton of recommendations there.

>>17063322
Thoughts on this bad boy? Heard that it is a pretty goof GIT clone. Never really smelled GIT, but i did smell cool water and i ended up really liking the smell. The problem with CW is that the performance is kinda shit. Do you think it is good as a daily summer frag?

>>17063726
Just buy oud and wear it, oud fragrances are a joke
https://www.pureoudh.com/product-category/oils/pure-oud-oil/

early 20s here, I'm kind of stuck as to what kind of scent should I be adding to my collection. I'm looking at trying to get into frags a bit deeper, here's what I have:

Prada L'Homme
Margiela Jazz Club / By The Fireplace
Guerlain L’Homme Ideal EdP
Dior Homme Cologne (the citrusy one)
Burberry London for Men

I think I'm sorted on most occasions, so I was either thinking an oud frag such as M7 by YSL, something with coffee notes such as Black Phantom which I had on test and I loved, or something completely different like Serpentine by CDG.
>>17063536
Psychedelic Love by Initio is great I had that on test, I think it's unisex though maybe

>>17063787
there are a lot of better oud fragrances out there, but it will take lots of sampling to find one that fits your skin as they tend to be the ones that change the most on skin.
black phantom is fucking great, genuinely love killian stuff they make lovely a/w scents, however wouldn't it slot into the same occassions that jazz club and l'homme ideal already do?
cdg are the house to look into when looking for GREEN shit for s/s

>>17063536
it's kind of hard to qauntify ethereal. Encre Noire is a classic choice for moody atmospheric scents

Guys fb marketplace is full of people selling frags. Most of them ar enot even used, sealed new, and in multiple numbers sometimes. All around 20-40, designer frags mind you. A new 100 ml Sauvage edt for 20.
I already contacted 6 of them, gonna take a train there if I can tell they are not scamming me.
Now, let's say I manage to make one of them timestamp or whatever, what are the probability they are selling fakes? pic related on of the sellers, he has women frags too, like how could they possibly be all fakes? creed for 20 bucks on the other hand...

>>17063815
Legit frags dont have dumb pictures on the box like pic related. They all look fake to me my dude.

If you dont think about the fact that they dont cost much and therefore "a good buy for the price", the juice itself, are they worth spraying yourself with them for any situation at all or they smell cheap as fuck ultimately?

>>17063842

>>17063750
I mean, it's a pretty good clone in that it smells very close to GIT but shittier, more artificial, more chemical. It's the same shit that Dua uses but at a lower concentration so it's not nearly as bad.

Is it good for a summer frag? Yes and no. It's very green and herbal. Good for cooler summer days. Once the temps go above 30degC then it's too rich. Then you want something lighter and more crisp.

why is this general suddenly full of designer, clone and other faggots, is it because of summer? where did all the niche posters go?

>>17063831
I guess... I'll go for the used ones then I guess

>>17063870
>niche gets talked about every thread
>where did it all go
the gynecomasstige fag is gone, but he has posted his blog on basenotes multiple time so if you are missing his retarded ass thats where you can find him, also pretty sure he still posts every now and thenjust tries his best to act like it's not him, as for all the "suddenly" always had people posting about designers, but also yes, there is a clear influx of newfags

>>17063815
you are so close but so fucking far you retarded anal prolapse baby. GROUPS. find fucking groups for your area and look for sellers there

Today I was checking out some frags at the mall and I came across JPG Le Male Parfum and EDT. It blew me away it was so good, I am thinking of returning my Versace Eros for one of these. Whats ur thougths on JPG Le Male Parfum, EDT or UltraMale? Versace eros is a little too strong and doesn't fit me personally.

>>17063815
im sure theres plenty of people on social media sites selling the real stuff at low prices...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDgDjSOKQP8
but those look like shitty fakes. the boxes dont even look right.

>>17063799
thanks, the only other ouds I've tried was Oud Wood which was great, and Satin Mood which was awful. I was thinking of Les Absolus d'Orient Santal Royal by Guerlain but it also has the rose note which might've made me hate Satin Mood. which ones do you rec to sample?
also fully agreed kilian is so good, and yeah I'm kind of stacked with the A/W frags but I love coffee scents
and yeah CDG 2 been also on my watchlist for a while, you know if their Wonderoud is any good / worth it?

>tfw fragrances now make my throat reflexively cough for several days, if not weeks.

fuckin sucks, i've been robbed of smelling all that fragrances have to offer, I can't wear any of mine anymore

lmao why is Versace Eros Flame so much better than Versace Eros?

recommend me some gender benders for summer, they have to be cheap
i know about versace versence and d&g light blue, any more hidden gems? can be officially unisex or female

>>17063970
hannah montana official frag

>>17063970
O de Lancome. Fresh, green and herbal, if you like 60's style frags.

Is this any good? Pretty sure it was a Christmas gift one year and I stuffed it in a drawer. Found it now while moving

>>17063978
Fuck

>>17063901
as for ouds I would recommend checking out:
Oud for Greatness initio
Oud for Happiness initio
Le Gemme Orom Bvlgari
Falkar Bvlgari
Ceylon Xerjoff
Zanzibar Xerjoff
Mamluk Xerjoff
I tend to dislike rose in most of the fragrances so they are clear of it.
wonderoud is nice, but it doesn't resamble any real oud at all, performance wise it's fine, as far as being worth I think wonderwood, is better, and the monocle collection mogs them both.

>>17063978
do you have a functioning nose? what about a clock, and maybe just maybe a friend. With those 3 things you stop needing people on the ethernet what fragrance is good. fucking hell

>>17063999
>nooo don't dicuss frags on a frag general
trips wasted on this huge cocksucker

>>17064003
>discuss
>uauueueueu 'tis any good muh niggas?
KYS

>>17064008
>what are your opinions about this fragrance
you wouldn't have had anything to say if phrased like this, which makes you a retard.
If you had anyway, it still makes you a retard

Kek, its really not frag gen without an argument over some completely irrelevant shit going on constantly

>>17064015
you really don't see the problem with an actual fucking ape asking for opnions about a frag he has in his hands yet refuses to smell it himself before asking others. just off yourself you disgusting fucking oxygen thief

>>17064024
I smelled it and thought it was decent. Just asking the general opinions. I'm no fragrance connoisseur

>>17064029
baby steps, baby steps. you gettin there sweetheart. Now go ask your mom for her thoughts, if she likes it as well. congratulations you have just acquired a new smell for people to attatch to your ugly lil face.

What does Bvlgari La Gemme Yasep smell like comapred to MFK Amyris Homme Extrait?

>>17064032
you got assburgers

>>17064024
>>17064032
ayo this nigga be having 0 bitches 100% lmaooo

sprayed Sauvage Elixir in a store today. the drydown smells exactly like the scratch-and-sniff magazine ad for Earthbound on the SNES

What is something good, citrusy and under $50 that lasts a while? I’m looking to round up my summer rotation.

What are they wearing /frag/?

>>17064125
quorum and azzaro ph

>>17063970
Mugler Angel

>>17064138
holy fuck bro what makes you think I'm that new into frags

>>17063887
>Le Male
Great and unique scent, but a bit dated and smell too much like toilet freshener for me.
>Ultra Male
My favorite after Le Beau, but its a loud fragrance mainly for young party people.
>Le Male Parfum
Castrated Le Male, its supposed to be a mature version, tries to be interesting, but its boring. I would get La Nuit del'Homme instead.

I like the Le Beau flanker, its a simple but effective fragrance. I havent tried the Parfum version yet, I hope its good too.

>>17064204
Allright, went to the shop again to smell them again on skin, personally I really like the Parfum. Perfect amount of sweetness and really fits well with me. Def gonna trade in my versace eros for that one cuz eros is honestly giving me a headache and too synthetic.

>>17063901
Versace oud noir.

>TERRE D'HERMÈS EAU GIVRÈE EDP
Babbys first, do I get this?

>>17064267
No, get hermes h24 instead
(But if you don't like h24 its a fine choice i guess)

>>17064271
Whats the difference?

>>17064249
Nice, forget what I said then. Its all very personal obviously, and I still find it a pretty good fragrance overall.

>>17064271
One smells like wood, the other like gummy bears.

>>17063870
You can add something to the discussion yourself. Plenty of posts with people asking for recommendations, some niche recs wouldn't hurt.

>>17063887
>Le Male
Based, but reformulations have changed it. It isn't bad, but different than what it used to be.
>Le Male Le Parfum
Straight up smells like the opening of what Le Male used to smell like, but then stays like that forever. Quentin Bisch somehow managed to turn the old Le Male headnotes into a long-lasting fragrance.

>>17064088
Is that a good or a bad thing?

>>17064125
Le 3e Homme de Caron

>>17064249
Based, Eros sucks. I know many people love it, but I really can't stand it. It just doesn't smell good and that's the only way to describe it for me.

>>17064409
Which one is which.

>>17064417
I think the h24 is the one that smells like gummy bears, that's how i saw it described in a few threads

Lowkey regretting my purchase of Cool Water. It’s smells great but it’s so weak and fades quickly. If I ever buy it again I’ll get a vintage one instead of these reformulated new ones.

>>17064451
My vintage one didn't blow me away in terms of performance, either.
CW was never a regrettable purchase for me, though, because it smells great and is cheap. Sometimes I just use it to freshen up before leaving the house to do minor chores.

I gave in to the shill.

>>17064267
good fresh citrus frag for the summer. try the original terre d'hermes too, it's more interesting though not as safe

>>17064488
how do you like it? it's a pretty interesting frag, though can be a little harsh to me

Why is molecule 01 so complimented? Is it a pheromone thing?

>>17064543
my friend's ex used to wear that and now my friend is extremely turned on by the scent

>>17064535
I was able to pick up a bottle for 40aud which is pretty good. I didn't expect to like musky frags honestly, I've never tried any, but I'm really digging it. Its super calming and i can see myself wearing it at chilled out parties and stuff

>>17063322
I don't know where you get those visuals but are always cool

i wish it was easier to sell frags to other people or at least some decants, i want to unfreeze my money to cop something better
>>17064488
idk where you from but i keep my opinion that it's not suitable for hot weather, for cooler evenings it's beautiful though

>>17064488
The best shill lately desu.
>>17064597
>i wish it was easier to sell frags to other people or at least some decants
Do you have a local facebook group for people that like frags? I joined one and people constantly sell or exchange decants/full bottles maybe give that a shot if you haven't.

>>17064607
groups suck, I'm often posting on sort of a board in frag section where i bought my first decants (a lot of them) but i would like to sell them back and also get rid of some of my stuff, but barely anybody was interested

What are some scents with a French Riviera vibe? Verdant yet arid shores, always blue skies, summer breeze, cool luxury

>>17064650
Instantly makes me think of something from Caron. The Provence is known for its lavender fields, so probably Pour Un Homme de Caron.

>>17064685
Lavender is a bit too mature no?

>>17064689
No? Lavender is probably one of the most-used notes in male perfumery, whether it's more modern stuff like La Nuit de L'Homme or Sauvage, somewhat older stuff like Le Male or Platinum Egoiste or classic fougeres like Drakkar Noir or Cool Water.

>>17064451
I added oakmoss to mine and it now lasts a good 6-8 hours, smelling more intense too.

>>17063705
Whats wrong with wearing shorts? Not all of us live in frozen shitholes.

>>17063459
Concentrations of what?
A widely used perfumery material that you can buy from reputable sources?
You do understand that iso e super is a huge part of modern perfumery, right?
And that you're paying 8x the price it actually costs, right?

>>17064740
>>17063444
man, I wish I came up with the idea of Escentric Molecules. selling a single cheap aromachemical in alcohol as an avant-garde fragrance is such a hilariously genius idea

https://sites.google.com/view/my-parfums/parfums-mannen
Do you think these testers are legit? Neroli portofino for 50? It's a small shop, 9 positive reviews from actual accounts, I know the site looks a bit weird but the shop is very little and it's a small business. To me they look like legit testers, and I have never heard of fake testers. thoughts? She ships but you an also physically grab them, so it can't be a scam
https://sites.google.com/view/my-parfums/parfums-mannen

>>17064763
If that was real I'd buy both 100 mL DHI bottles for 35€ each and the Platinum Egoiste for 35€ as well.

>>17064763
>I have never heard of fake testers.
There are a shit ton of those, especially in Turkey, they sell them for like 20 euros, my roommate bought sauvage that way. I think these are not legit as these boxes look fake as well, tester boxes are usually made from rough cardboard and these don't look rough. Also there is no way tom ford can be 35$, yeah testers are cheaper but not hundreds of euros cheaper.

>>17063474
every method for production of iso-e super will have a different ratio of isomers, of which there are at least 8, but there are probably more structural isomers and side products too. I've smelt one M01 dupe and I can't tell the difference though. organic chemist btw

>>17064763
>all for 35$, no matter if it's something that retails below 35$ or a 200$ tom ford private blend
fake as fuck
there are lots of these fake tester sites actually. they take advantage of the fact that people are less suspicious of the price and packaging because "it's a tester after all"
legit sites selling testers usually sell non-tester frags too. and legit testers are usually like 25% cheaper than the normal frag, half off at most. not fucking 10 times cheaper

>>17064836
Yeah, I'm a chemist, too, which is why I was wondering about this.
Different isomers having different attributes is a well known thing and I've read somewhere that the entire shtick of Molecule 01 was having only a single isomer (the best-smelling one or something). That would have made sense to me, because it's certainly possible.
Just as in Ibuprofen, where Dexibuprofen is the more active isomer, I thought something similar would/could exist in fragrance molecules.

>>17064795
I mean 35 for testers seems reasonable for some of those...
I would look into DHI, ADG edt, Versace Our Homme maybe, maybe a tom ford one.
>>17064816
idk I can't spot any differencies from the originals, are they so good at fakes nowadays?
>>17064851
they look so identical though...

>>17064861
Versace Pour Homme is barely cheaper than new.
DHI is the one I'd be most interested in.

>>17064861
Yeah you may not spot differences but here's the thing. If these can be sold for 35$ and be profitable god knows how much they cost to produce, and if they use some cheap or shitty materials it can be harmful to your skin. For all you know these can be mixed in a random place that does not care how they produce frags. They might smell the same and last an okay amount of time, but there is that risk of putting random shit on your skin.
And yeah these are not real testers as other annon pointed out, there are legit testers in stores that are a little cheaper than the commercial packaging

>>17064858
i think m01 is enriched in a 'gamma' isomer whatever that means. I can't imagine they produce the oil themselves, so it should be available elsewhere. theres an excellent article on iso-e here.

https://img.perfumerflavorist.com/files/base/allured/all/document/2016/02/pf.PF_26_02_016_05.pdf

How the fuck is Mont Blanc Explorer still projecting on my skin after 5 hours while Terre d'Hermes is barely there? Sprayed both at the same time on different wrists. I really like the smell of TdH and I thought it was supposed to outperform

>>17063750
Breddy good for the price, smells kind of like GIT and Cool Water, it's not bad. If you want something that is in that same vein and also pretty inexpensive, I prefer Caswell Massey Greenbrier. Another good one is Kiton Men -- it has a similar violet note to GIT, but it has pineapple too (not an Aventus clone at all, it's a green freshie). Lastly, if you want something that is in that same vein but better than GIT and a much better value imho, look at Fougere l'Aube by Rogue Perfumery. It is really, really good

>this fragrance is for more mature men.
>dont wear this if you arent at least 40.
>young guys really cant wear this.
Is this kind of stuff just gatekeeping from older boomers/groomers trying to keep anything but frat boy teensmells off anyone younger than 40, or do they have a point?

>>17064889
>I can't imagine they produce the oil themselves, so it should be available elsewhere.
Its made by IFF I believe, but they might have a deal where that specific type is exclusively for them.

annoying to get samples when you're a shut-in

>>17064903
what are they gonna do, beat you up?

>>17064717
He's skipping leg day.

>>17064903
Yes. Go buy Guerlain vetiver now.

What's so special about Baccarat Rouge 540?

>>17064974
it smells good

>freshie
>citrusy
>around 30 bucks for 100 ml
>good longevity
name it. And is pic related the perfect example (albeit 20 bucks more)?

>>17065021
ck be

>>17063815
is this a joke?

>>17064945
Nothing, cry about it online, i'm wondering whether their opinions have merit or not.
Just curious.
>>17064955
Not sure if that is some ultra old man shit, but i'm just talking about people saying that about anything that isn't 100% youthful.

>>17064950
hater. shorts just always look retarded

>>17064861
they may have used pictures of actual testers to fool people. it may be the case that what you get looks nothing like the picture
anyway, if you want to buy clearly fake testers from a super sketchy site, be my guest. many of these wouldn't even be good deals if they were real (you can get some of them cheaper from legit sites. but such is the nature of fake testers that all cost 35$, no matter if it's a 20$ bottle of davidoff cool water or a 200$ tom ford. the arabs selling these couldn't even be assed to make the prices believable)

>>17065021
>good longevity
it doesn't have good longevity though

>>17064895
maybe you're going noseblind. people often go noseblind from frags with so much iso e super. try spraying further from your face

>>17065058
could have merit. depends what it is. but "old person fragrances" lose their meaning as the old people die off and the younger people weren't around to learn the association. my sister is a decade younger than me, and she & her friends wear some fragrances that smell like an elderly woman's perfume. savage zoomers going around smelling like old granny mildred.

>>17065078
>savage zoomers going around smelling like old granny mildred.
hot

>>17063815
Didn't even see this but holy shit look at those prada and creed boxes lol

>>17064699
Interesting. How does Cool Water smell with oakmoss?

>>17064903
they're mostly just overthinking shit and appealing to the "I'm 16 and looking to buy my first fragrance to pick up girls!" crowd
unless a fragrance is very old school and well-known, no one's going to care

>>17065078
>my sister is a decade younger than me, and she & her friends wear some fragrances that smell like an elderly woman's perfume
maybe I should finally get me some Shalimar EDP this autumn

>>17063815
lmao what the fuck is that Black Orchid box? you really think Tom Ford puts a huge picture of his face on his boxes? lmao

>>17065103
I would

>>17063922
Because Jeremy slammed it to be worse than Eros. And we all know that Jeremy is a master perfumer.

>>17065099

Alright shills, you won.
I blind bought it too since shops sell it online but never have testers.
It was only 30 bucks.
this better be good and dreamy

>>17065211
It's ok. Smells the price.

>>17065239
then it better smell 3 times better than my adidas frag

>>17065211
another one bites the dust

>>17064763
Why do people want to be scammed so badly?

>>17063815
>tom ford ad on a pack of ciggies

Sotd Guerlain habit rouge leau. It’s a nice summer scent. Fresh off a two day ban. Jannies are faggots.

>>17064451
The vintage has good performance and smells better. It lasts all day and smells nice even if oversprayed.

>>17064836
>>17064858
Here is the good scents company listing about iso e super, it should list all the manufacturers and anny differences between their products. It looks like iff only makes one version of iso e super
http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/data/rw1020611.html

>>17065269
Guerlain has so many fucking flankers, why do they do this.

>>17064895
TDH has been reformulated and is half as strong as it was a decade ago.

>>17065274
They should’ve called it something different. It has some similarities but someone wanting only a lighter version of habit rouge would be disappointed. With that said. Habit rouge edc is superior and light enough to wear in 25c weather. Today is 27 so I opted for leau.

>>17065275
Specifically, it used to have oakmoss and lyral. Now lilial's getting the ban hammer too, so expect more reformulations of it and various others.

How is the longevity on Molecule 01 and is it a seasonal scent in your opinion?

>>17065272
To me it looks like they make ISO-E Super with 8% and 12% gamma isomer as well as Timbersilk, whatever that is.

>>17065287
Lilial is already banned and the fragrances containing it have been reformulated already. It should be noted that perfumers are usually ahead of such regulations, at least if their companies have any regulatory chemist worth a damn.

>>17065301
Ok so Timbersilk is just a version with 15% of the gamma isomer. Now there's just the question of what Molecule 01 is using.

>>17065278
One would think their naming practices are bad for marketing (viral and otherwise) and sales, but maybe the opposite is the case. Either way, I find it unnecessarily confusing.

Am I seeing correctly that they don't have sample sets on their site? That's a shame, my local stores don't have a lot of their stuff. Guess I'll try to find someone offering decants of a lot of their stuff.

>>17065323
I haven’t tried a Guerlain I didn’t like. Vintage Guerlain vetiver is the best fragrance ever. Edc is nice if you think the tobacco note makes the edt smell “old”. But the edt is the best.

>>17065329
I wanna buy asap because they are rebottling and I think that's part of a reformulation campaign. Recent formulations are likely still only 70% as good as vintage or thereabouts, but I fear it's only worse from here on out, not least due to shortages and shit.

>>17065095
Somewhat muskier, noticably darker (the herbal, ambery and tobacco notes are stronger with it, the aquatic is more in the background). It's a subtle enough change though.

>>17065290
What's up with all the molecule 01 talk lately

>>17065383
YouTube newfags

>>17065388
I only watch jeremy because he's funny and demi rawling because she's sexual in a dirty way and I never hear either of them mention molecule 01

>>17065383
>lately
shit is one of the most popular """niche""" frags of all time. it's even in the flowchart

>>17065408
What's better, the flowchart or https://www.basenotes.net/features/3243-the-top-ten-niche-fragrances-every-beginner-should-sample

>>17065339
Biden inflation is hitting hard. I’m buying non perishables while they’re still somewhat cheap.

>>17065431
/fa is full of literal trannys. I’d probably trust the boomers on basenotes.

>>17065431
the flowchart has designer frags and more choices, so it's more useful for beginners

>>17065410
Well, 6 of them are in the flowchart. However, that post made me realize that the flowchart is lacking some proper patchouli frags.

>>17065444
What’s the best patchouli frag? Is it polo green vintage? Also Guerlain habit rouge has a nice patchouli/nut base.

>>17064650
neroli portofino

>>17063322
Is dylan blue good? I only have the deo stick. Is the perfume a lot different?

>>17064412
not bad. makes me wonder if, when Nintendo chose the retarded "This Game Stinks" ad campaign for Earthbound and put the scratch-n-sniff areas on it, they just used some perfume that the factory had on hand that went into a fashion magazine the same factory printed that month

>>17065290
Bump

>>17064089
Alvarez Gomez for straight citrus

>>17065484
Dylan blue is good
Buy it, wear it, enjoy it

>>17065287
Now that TdH is gutted, what's something similar at the same price? I didnt like h24

>>17065290
Longevity is good and works all year

>>17065572
>Now that TdH is gutted
?

>>17065577
Half as strong as bottles from 2016
>>17065572
What's something similar?
TDH was kind of unique im sure there are clones of it now but meh. Too bad you don't like h24
Maybe try Encre Noir A L'extreme it's more of amber incese smokey thing going on but with a dry woody base.
Try dior homme too the current version in stores

Just bought the Essential Parfums discovery set. What to expect?

>>17065615
good fragrances for cheap price, well done
if I was any newfag in this thread dwelling through depth of YouTube and local mall fragrances, I'd do the same

>>17065572
Guerlain homme leau boisse is tdh but with mint mojito instead of burnt orange.

>>17065622
>Guerlain homme leau boisse
I have this, fucking love it, my favorite warm weather fragrance

>>17065587
>Half as strong as bottles from 2016
Honestly, how is this legal? If a customer is buying a bottle of TDH, they expect a bottle of TDH, not TDH lite. Unless the reformulation was explicitly necessitated by regulatory changes, this is blatant consumer fraud.

>>17065625
It’s pretty nice, the original Guerlain homme is nice too. But the best warm weather guerlains are vetiver edc and Coriolan.

>>17065032
tfw in poorland you can get 200 ml ck be for 16 bucks
i used to scrap it off my skin but now i like it, and smells kinda like a teen girl

>>17063372
for people in your situation I always recommend just going to the mall and finding something there that you think is alright. And either buy it there or write down what it was and then buy it online at a discount.

>>17065615
A series of simple, stripped down fragrances that give you exactly what it says it will in the name. I didn't buy any EP frags after getting the discovery set, but it was very refreshing to get basic notes done very well. There is one fragrance with more complexity than the rest: Bois Imperial. Quentin Bisch created a more accessible woody complement to his metallic futuristic Ganymede

>>17065268
so when is he gonna release his own line of cigs

>>17063372
Guerlain vetiver you retarded nigger.

Any good deals available on eBay currently? Share one and I’ll share one. I see some for items I have backup bottles of already.

>>17065629
>this is blatant consumer fraud.
The entire cosmetics industry is blatant consumer fraud

On the topic of waterboarded frags, does anybody here have experience with 2020-onward batches of Bentley For Men Absolute? Reading a fair few people say that it got its shit pushed in.

Bought Guerlain Habit Rouge for $30 5 years ago and now it's $90. What's up with that

>>17065974
Putin's price hike.

God tier performance, one spray in the morning and you can still detect it the next morning

>>17065987
nice try louis

>>17065301
>at least if their companies have any regulatory chemist worth a damn
That's all automated in the big companies. They use machines to mix the fragrances and they won't even work if you try to add banned ingredients.

Start a new job next week and want to buy some new colognes to make an impression. My budget is enough for two of these. Which should I get. For reference, my favorites are Dylan Blue by Versace, Cool Water by Davidoff, and Jazz Club by Margiela.

>>17066033
Fahrenheit and Essenza

Essenza is a safe bet. For the most part, it smells like lemons and soap. That doesn't sound impressive, but it's absolutely terrific.

>>17065572
Get h24 and wear it. It will grow on you.

Thoughts on the Boss Bottled line? Which one’s the best?

>>17066033
What's wrong with the ones you have?
If any of these 100% Bleu de Chanel. Inoffensive safe bet for the workspace.

>>17066033
If its for work then BdC and Essenza

>>17063750
I use it as my gym fragrance in spring/summer, so its an understatement that is inoffensive, smells kinda synthetic tho. I had have a couple of girls compliment me, but when I wore it outside nobody ever noticed. I'd use it as a spring fragrance, when it not too hot. Still prtefer this to CW, thats an old man smell for me lol.

>>17063870
most gay people go on vacation in the summer

>>17066042
I don't like the unripe banana peel scent. What is it like on you?

>>17063492
>All ADG flankers except the best, Profumo
You should come back

>>17063492
uh sis, you will only know what it really smells like on your skin. now go back and spray on each finger

>>17065629
Perfume is a luxury item and doesn't fulfill basic needs. The entire business is skimming money off the top, or scamming those who want to feel like they belong on the top.
It's entirely expected.

>>17065974
>owned by LVMH
Don't google "LVMH price increase".

>>17065999
There's a regulatory chemist somewhere entering that into the machine. If the big companies have software that updates itself in that way, there's still a regulatory chemist at the company that makes the software. In any case, that would mean that the frag company isn't ahead of such regulatory changes and would get surprised by them. I doubt that that's the case.

>>17066033
4 out of those won't make an impression, but are rather office-safe. The 5th one is Fahrenheit.
Personally, I'd get Fahrenheit and Bleu de Chanel.

>>17066050
Only Boss Bottled is good and that's it. Very much a simple designer that doesn't really last, though, but at least it's cheap. Boss Bottled Intense would be the best if it was still being made.

>>17066127
My gym fragrance is my royal body odor from actually moving a bunch of plates up and down and not curling shakeweights on the treadmill.

>>17066317
goddamnit. I should have bought more

>>17066324
4 out of 10 of the biggest European companies by market capitalization are luxury companies.
LVMH is pretty much at the top. They are followed by IBM and ASML Holding, which both make sense, since they are building future technology, and then comes L'Oreal.
Dior and Hermes are in the mix as well, but at least Dior is mostly fashion-based, since their frag business is also owned by LVMH. So yeah, the largest market cap company in Europe is LVMH, that's how profitable that business is.

It's just cold hard profits in the luxury market, all based on advertising.

>>17066231
It's a airy diffuse clean musk, i also get a rhubarb note and metallic notes.

>>17065986
Kek, as if gas prices (and everything else) weren’t spiking before the Russian and Ukrainian war (shouldn’t have anything to do with nato). Gas prices were spiking because of Biden’s Executive Order on Protecting Public Health and the Environment and Restoring Science to Tackle the Climate Crisis you retarded nigger.

Sotd Guerlain Coriolan

This is the best lavender scent. Pic related

>>17066334
>all based on advertising
*slave labour

>>17066442
Good. If we have to live with these third world niggers in our homelands we might as well exploit them in their homelands.

>>17066334
Yes, but that's a total of 75 luxury brands and probably all of them have high margins.

Would it be weird for a 22 yr old guy to wear korus? I tried it at the store today again and it is a very interesting frag that i can imagine wearing from time to time, so i would cop 50ml only.

>>17066465
*kouros, holy shit how did i misspell that so badly

>>17066465
kouros is the greek word for young man so it seems apropos that you wear it

>>17066465
Sure, its a very powerful fragrance, as long as you are wearing the fragrance and the fragrance isn't wearing you then go for it.
Also try chanel antaeus if you see it in a store

>>17066465
do it

>>17066465
Been tempted to try this one. Old school fragrances are the best. Some moderns are nice though.

Anyone have any experience with the following? Jovoy Psychedelique, Serge Lutens Fille en Aiguilles, Nishane Ambra Calabria, Frederic Malle Portrait of a Lady. If I could only get two, which should I get?

>>17066498
Buy It, its good.
On a somewhat related note grab a bottle of sung homme for $16 on ebay

>>17066442
While certainly a factor, with some of the brands the stuff is actually made in Europe.
I have an organic cotton t-shirt, plain white, made in Germany, 40€.
Dior offers me a white shirt with CD logo, cotton, made in Italy, 500€.
They look identical, except for that one little brand logo. It's nothing but insane margins.
I'll shill Dior when it comes to fragrances but I wouldn't spend a cent on their clothes.

>>17066455
Yeah, true. It's still insane to me.
>ASML Holding, 220B$ market cap, #39 in the world by market cap
>basically has a monopoly for the smallest gate sizes in semiconductor manufacturing
>biggest competitor is Applied Materials, 96B$ market cap, #135 in the world
Makes perfect sense why they are up there.
>LVMH market cap 314B$, #24 in the world
>multiple competitors among the top 100
All margins, baby.

Remember to buy your smelly water at a discount, exploit every coupon, buy used frags from reputable sellers, trade/swap frags, send shitty batches back, poop in L'Oreals mail box.

I really like Encre Noir. It's cheap, it smells good, and the fragrance lasts several days if you spray it on clothing.

>>17066403
Following up. Coriolan is a very nice old school freshy and is the sequel to derby.

>>17066472
>>17066474
>>17066494
Thanks frens, yeah i realize that it is powerful, and i think one spray can be quite enough, the one on my arm that i tested is still going strong
>>17066498
I think old school frags were made differently and the trends are different from today so that's what makes them seem better when compared to the current fragrance trends

>>17066592
Too bad it's fall-winter only

>>17066629
You know I'm breakin' the rules.

>>17065625
Discontinued

>>17066643
At least in the USA i can get bottles on ebay for $40. It was even cheaper last year when i bought mine

Thoughts?

>>17066600
I like the depth from old school fragrances. Especially the vintage versions with naturals like oakmoss. The new aroma chemicals smell nice but they are singular and is easy to become noseblind to them. Even if others can smell it I want to smell it all day long

>>17066645
I’m buying a backup bottle or two while it’s cheap and available.
>>17066648
Gay and overpriced
>>17066636
Based. It’s not too heavy for moderate summers

>>17066651
Like all Tom Ford lol

>>17066503
I've only tried Psychedelique of these. It's a very nice chocolate cake patchouli fragrance heavy on slightly boozy amber. It's very strong and smells expensive, though it's also fairly linear

>>17066629
no it isn't, it's fresh enough for warmer weather too I think

>>17066503
>Jovoy Psychedelique
basic warm patchouli (usually hinted as chocolatey patchouli), good

>Serge Lutens Fille en Aiguilles
piney frag, the dried fruits are very prominent in this (at least in my vintage decant), one of my favorites

>Frederic Malle Portrait of a Lady
it feels like there is multiple roses layered on top of each other; very "soft", pink and pleasing as opposed to some green or dry roses. my favourite rose together with tobacco rose by papillon, recommended

haven't sampled Ambre Calabria. I think the Lutens frag is hard to wear during summer, but fits great for other seasons, poal is good all around but you have to like rose, Psychedelique is not as unique

>>17066680
I actually liked Oud wood intense and bought a small discounted bottle of oud mineral which I regret. Oud mineral is a powerhouse but gets overwhelming and is linear/somewhat boring.

>>17066776
I guess not all Tom Ford frags are gay, but they are all definitely obscenely overpriced.

>>17066776
most tom ford frags are linear though

In my opinion, anything above 100 eurobucks is overpriced for a cologne. 100 seems like the max I would spend, preferibly 80. It's a consumable good after all

>>17066782
I agree, most of the 200$ stuff is overpriced. 100$ is enough to get a lot of nice niche frags and also the really nice designer stuff like chanel antaeus or dior homme parfum

>>17066779
>but they are all definitely obscenely overpriced
This is true.

>>17066779
>>17066781
Overall I much prefer Guerlain and Caron to Tom ford even if they wera similar price.

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