/fa/ - Fashion

Chink Fleiger on some Etsy strap

Chuffed to bits about this Seiko 5 on Perlon combo.

>>15993764
Resized it too small

>>15993763
Meh the Hamilton Khaki Field looks much nicer and you don't have to feel bad for wearing chinkshit

>>15993756
Never had my watch on the op before thank you very much

OP is ok in my book

>>15993773
>a different style of watch that is four times more expensive is better
Also the Hamilton is "Swiss" chinkshit.

Does anyone ever think about how amazing the NH35 is? Produced in the tens of millions, you can buy it for $40, and it just works so well and has enabled the rise of so many microbrands

https://www.jomashop.com/certina-watch-c006-407-11-058-00.html

https://www.jomashop.com/tissot-watch-t0659301105100.html

Which? The Tissot is quite a bit cheaper and also smaller thickness which I like. Bit worried if 39mm is too big since my wrists are only about 15.5cm circumference. Or say screw it and get a Khaki Field at 38 mm?

>>15993764
would look based on a leather nato

>>15993806
would look based on your gfs pusy

>>15993802
I would get the Certina because the Tissot looks fucking stupid. Crown too small. Cheesy bracelet. T-shaped second hand looks bad. At 12mm thick the Certina is still wearable. Its only real flaw is the date window could have been better integrated, but whatever.

>>15993823
Yeah the bracelet is a bit odd, but the watch looks better in motion than on the picture there imo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOMLeQz2bSI
Idk if the hundred+ extra is worth it (gotta pay import fees on the price too) for the Certina. Not a huge fan of roman numbers but them only being there on the pole positions looks neat enough.

>>15993836
It's not just the bracelet... there are many strange design choices with that watch. It's probably cheap because it looks like shit. I'm a fan of getting value but you're quibbing over $200 vs. $300 which is nothing, and at that range you should be most concerned about the quality of the watch and not a little bit of savings.
Honestly I'd rather just bump my budget up to $500 and get something a little nicer. I think that's when you get into Tissot's Le Loc line
https://www.jomashop.com/tissot-watch-t0064281605801.html
Or some of the decent Midos and Hamiltons

>>15993860
Well I don't think it looks like shit.
I looked at a video of the linked watch and imo it just looks worse than either of the above. The background is just plain one-note black whereas these have a bit more to them.

>>15993819
based

A boomer will die before he gets his Daytona

Just found my perfect sportswatch
>type 20 chrono
>seagull movement
>38mm, classic and perfect proportions
>500$

>>15993929
What does the bezel do? I don't think I've ever seen a bezel with that numbering before.

>>15993969
it's called a 12 hour bezel and it lets you track a second timezone. incredibly useful but sadly uncommon

>>15993773
>Hamilton Khaki Field
thats chinkshit too
80% of swatch group is

>>15993971
But it's not, the numbers are in the wrong order. Did someone in China fuck up?

>>15993976
Accurate. That being said it's certainly higher grade Chinesium.

>>15993990
It's count down hours. Arguably more useful on a chronograph which will already track elapsed time

25th for the rarest Omega in history

>>15994019
26th for neat.

27th for fat fuck with a casio royale

>>15994010
But a normal 12 hour bezel would make a lot more sense, can use it to track a second time zone, can use it to track elapsed hours when using the chrono since it's only a 30 minute chrono. Plus I've never seen that bezel type before on a watch.

Weeee, my first ever mechanical shitter arrived!

Are FP Journe specifically made for money laundering?

>>15994067
>NOAET

>>15994074
Every watch above 5k is.

Why do people suck off watches that been to space? it’s not like space is a harsh condition

One thing the Citizen PMD56-2952 does really well compared to a lot of other modern pilots watches is having good dimensionality to the printed indices from the thick layer of lume on top of each hour marker.

Compare pic related to the how flat the printing is on the dial of a Sinn 556a or a Damasko DA36 and you'll see what I mean. Really nice feature on this Citizen.

>>15994103
ok how big is this?

>>15994100
People have always admired adventurers and space really is the final frontier. I mean why do people suck off the Explorer so hard? It wasn't even arguably on the mountain. But people have always wanted to own some of the greatness of the giants that came before them.

>>15994100
its not even an exclusive club, tons of watches have been to space

>>15994109
39.5mm case width, 45mm lug-to-lug, 20mm lug spacing. It wears like a 37-38mm watch as the chapter ring makes the dial a bit smaller.

>>15994100
Same reason redditors reference thag watch and say "because I'm an engineer..."

They are mentally retarded. As you referenced, a blue collar manual laborer's watch takes far more abuse than an astronaut's ever will.

>Since 2017 and the introduction of the 62MAS Re-creation, we’ve become accustomed to a reissue limited edition each and every year. With the exception of the out-of-the-blue King Seiko drop late last year, it’s been a long era of diver re-creations. It seems Seiko has run out of vintage divers (the first-gen 6105 is still out there, so let’s see), so they’ve now moved on to the Alpinist. What we have is a relatively faithful reissue of the first-ever Alpinist model from 1959.
>Settle in a bit here because I have some real thoughts on the 1959 Alpinist Re-creation. There will be 1,959 numbered pieces of this watch and it will retail for €3,000 when it hits stores in August.

>If we are talking about faithful, simply note that Seiko never made an Alpinist with a date during the first era. Second, why oh why does Seiko omit the “Alpinist” text on the dial? EVERYONE wants this and even Seiko calls this watch an Alpinist. Instead, we’re left with the typical “Automatic” script to somehow tie it into all the other Alpinists that are no longer called Alpinists. It’s all puzzling, to say the least.

https://www.fratellowatches.com/thoughts-seiko-prospex-1959-alpinist-re-creation-sje085/#gref

>>15994149
You can tell how it actually took great pain to write that because he was imagining the slings he would take from Seiko fanboys in response, but it had to be said. He's spot on there and it's amazing that someone would come out and say some real shit rather than just promoting it mindlessly. Fratello is always dicksucking Rolex and Omega but this one time I'm impressed.

>>15994149
They don't want to tank the market for the original, they want to profit off of the nostalgia. Hence the half assed limited edition reissues.

>>15994119
Oof, canadanon not even caring about my new watch up thread, times are rough

>>15994171
The what original? I don't think they give a shit about people selling the odd surviving 1959 model on yahoo auctions.

>original diameter is 36mm on an angular case, making it compact and robust
>reissue bloats the old design into a copy and paste Rolex standard 40mm, transforming it into a chunk of stainless steel on your wrist
Are modern watch designers unpaid ghetto interns or something?

>>15994201
the watch industry is almost always like 15 years behind. at some point in the 90s bigger watches became a thing. after 10 years people got sick of them. now they are begging for smaller watches. companies are only just now, from the tail end of 2020, starting to listen.

>>15994200
In this case sure, but there have ben many other models they have done this for, including the gold on vomit green alpinist (altough obviously the prospex alpinist is just more expensive and not actually limited production)

>>15994188
Which watch? Hopefully that vintage Omega with the quartz movement, because I'm quite interested in wtf is up with it. Never seen anything like it before.

>>15994236
It's not quartz.

>>15994209
>now they are begging for smaller watches
wrong, only watch enthusiasts want to go back to more elegant designs. But chinks and arabs love fuckhuge flashy jewelery and they're who the swiss make watches for now.

>>15994236
Synchronome

>>15994246
I had no idea Omega ever made a dead beat seconds movement. I'm reading up on it now. Apparently Omega ended up recalling a bunch of them due to reliability issues with the movement and they are extremely rare these days.

Really interesting stuff. Need to read up about it more.

>>15994270
Probably the rarest Omega wristwatch caliber ever made and rarest non-limited-edition Omega reference ever made, the Omega Synchrobeat cal 372 was launched in 1952 with a production run of 1000. According to A Journey Through Time, 17 of those watches were sold, and the rest were recalled by Omega to be destroyed. The Synchrobeat was the first-ever wristwatch with a dead seconds complication - the second hand advances once per second, like a modern quartz watch. This was considered a highly desirable complication in wristwatches at the time to allow for precise time measurement. Of the 17 watches claimed to still exist by AJTT, approximately 12 have surfaced (two of which are bare uncased movements - the 18kt case was presumably melted down at some point). After the failure of the Synchrobeat launch (similar to the failed Rolex tru-beat cal 1040, which launched one year later), it would be 20 years before Omega had another wristwatch that ticked once per second.

>>15994275
It being the first with a deadbeat seconds makes it even more interesting. From the quick websearch I did, it seems some people thing more than 17 got cased, but I'm inclined to trust A Journey and Time and you more than some other forum poster.

Getting your hands on 1/17 of such a historically important piece is pretty damn special man. Only way to top that would be to find 39050076, which is probably never going to happen.

How did you end up coming across that piece?

>>15994302
It was on ebay. Actually showed up in an unrelated saved search. Blows the watch budget for a little while.

most punchable face??

idiot in pic related

time teller (Jory)

urban gentry (TGV)

Ben's watch club

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjt2NnCRrp0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY8qsx5Jw3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA3ne8pc2Jg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn5CvRABBto

>>15994339
i feel bad for ben. he had a successful /fa/ channel but then he got bald and it all came crashing down.

I hate time teller so much. For those who don't know he looks and acts like the typical south floridian poser/scammer.

>>15994354
I hate him too but it's because he looks and sounds annoying as fuck.
Who gets scammed by someone like that? I'd instantly dislike them and send them away before they could scam me.

>>15994354
Isn't he? Doesn't he have some kind of a scam company (outside of watch shit)?

>>15994335
Well worth it considering how well it fits into the kinds of watches you enjoy collecting and it's rarity.

I haven't really been looking at vintage watches much in the last year or two. I've been on a bit of a digital and quartz kick for a while, as evidenced by the JDM Citizen i just received. At some point I need to start seriously looking for which Omega 564 model I want, but not yet.

>>15994339
I don't know how anyone could be rated above TGV here. His entire character, backstory, and personality on YouTube are fake, and he has an uncanny knack for enraging people on the internet wherever he goes outside of his little bubble.

>>15994366
i just hate thst boom watchfag guy

>>15994358
>>Doesn't he have some kind of a scam company (outside of watch shit)?
NO. he sells cheap watch posters on the side but he's legit.

>>15994374
https://www.thesimpleconsultant.com/who-is-jory-goodman

>>15994339
Teddy "BUY MY TEA SOH" Baldassare

>>15994358
he was a personal trainer too.
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http://www.breakthroughpowerlifting.com/

-Sponsored Powerlifter
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Coach Jory Goodman is known as the most sought after Strength Coach and Consultant to business professionals and executives.

https://medium.com/@coachgoodman/getting-a-grip-on-weight-training-173153c888bb

>>15994366
TGVs videos are comfy sometimes.

>>15994339
The faggot you posted by far. Though Jory is a good contender. TGV is so tryhard it is almost charming and Ben is a good lad. This clown and Jewry are selling dogshit watches at a high markup. Parasites both of them

What do people mean when they say someone has a flat vs round wrist? Any comparison pics between the two?

>>15994400
>>Ben is a good lad

yeah but the zoom in zoom out on his head is annoying.

>>15994396
I'm a /fit/izen and I've never even heard of this faggot before getting into watches.
>most sought after coach!
>is fat as fuck
Ahahahahaha I just thought this was some fat faggot at first
>buy my gymbag goy!
Holy shit, this delusional fucking powersharter, I'm laffin

Where can I get this watch guys? It's a Citizen BL1280 54e, but I can't find it anywhere.
Or a very similar one at least?

>>15994366
>>wherever he goes outside of his little bubble.

?

>>15994441
he has a fb watch group

Just caught up on the Horology House scandal.
Is there anyone involved with watches who isn't a scumbag?

>>15994489
my grandpa https://youtube.com/channel/UCdlE6gx9SNnkH-ak7bZ9uzQ

>>15994489
Paul Pluta, the Archie character is a scum bag but he’s a nice person.

Post collections!

I think the blue dial club was a good choice for the collection.

best two watch collection?
i've only got two watches currently,
>spb149
>tangente datum (thinking of swapping this out for a different nomos)

but i'm making 6 figures (no brag i know that's nothing special) and i just can't justify having a collection of sub 3k watches even though i want, and can afford to, it's just i feel like i've falling into a consumer trap
>like a woman with 20k worth of LV and gucci bags

so instead of buying a max bill chronoscope, stowa flieger, tudor bb58, and whatever else i like, should i just commit like 10k to two watches in the used market and just be content, and if i change my mind get back in the used market and maintain the 2

and if so, sugggest:
>two watch collection
>10k max

>>15994506
>>15994500
digging the orion and grand seiko

>>15994506
>even though i want, and can afford to
so whats the problem?

nobody says you have to buy all those watches all together at once right now

if you make 6 figures 1-2 3k watch purchases a year is nothing

>>15994500
>covering up the fucked up small seconds out of shame

>>15994516
the club fits nicely in there as well

>Buying my first ever watch, about to pull the trigger.

https://www.sakurawatches.com/seiko-presage-japanese-garden-sary175

Opinions on this as a first watch?

Has anyone had any experience with Sakura Watches before? I found a few WUS threads giving them praise and I'm fairly ready to try them, just want to make sure there are no horror stories from anyone.

Also opinions on the 4r3X movements? I've read a few people who think it's bad and it's kind of throwing me off. Am I just being paranoid?

Thanks anons

>>15994526
Personally i don't like 'open-heart' watches, almost all of them are ugly.

>>15994500

>>15994526
sakura is trusted

inb4 a million and one insecure posts seething about open heart. I dig it, go for it anon.

>>15994526
4r3X = NH3x and they are one of the most common workhorse movements used by everyone and their mother. Its almost too prevalent and widespread. Other than the run-of-the-mill 3hz beatrate i dont see any reason to hate on them

>>15994506
Spend the $10k on a JLC, then forget about watches forever and try to be content

>>15994560
I tried that. I thought if I stopped buying shitters and bought a >Rolex I would be free. I ended up becoming disillusioned, sold the Rolex, and ended up buying more shitters. The "one watch" thing is an impossible dream.

>>15994526
I’ve bought an Oceanus and a Chronomaster from Sakura. Great site. Buy with confidence.

a friendly anon suggested this full black Seiko 5 Sports to me, i fell in love with it almost immediately

>>15994538
>all those rare and uncommon watches
needs higher res
this is the best collection ive seen so far here

>>15994500
every man needs a ROWLECKS

>>15994526
Don't buy an open heart of a cheap shitter workhorse movement. The 4R is meant to be hidden away and forgotten about as it ticks on reliably for the next 3 decades, not displayed as if it's art. Same with all the ETA movements but the cheap Seiko shit makes them premium by comparison.

looking for this as my first piece. thoughts?

>>15994518
let me elaborate
i picked up an spb149, and i like it it gets a lot of wrist time, but it has it's flaws and the watch i should have gotten was the sla037 (1300 vs 6300 msrp... bit steep)
>although i wish both sat 2mm lower
which makes the bb58 an option here

similarly, the tangente 38 datum i have, which i picked up at a fair price, has flaws as well
>infamous lug to lug measurement, even on 7.25-7.5in wrists, size is fine but it sits in a clunky way
>the minute markers has a larger gap to the case than i'd like, not super noticeable but in enlarging it from the original size to 37.5mm they skewed the proportions
i should have gotten the metro gangreserve 3800 msrp

so i'm at an impasse, do i buy more watches to flesh out my collection, or do i upgrade the watches i have and back off the watch autism

for me it's a matter of personal preference in how i spend my dollars chasing perfection
i believe a lot of watches are perfect in their own way, again the stowa flieger and bb58(although obvious choices), and even the max bill chronoscope
should i spend 10k on ~4-5 watches, or the same amount on 2 that i'll appreciate more individually
like an engineering problem, do i go for variety or endgame

>>15994537
agreed

>>15994585
You the guy who posted all-black outfit?

>>15994609
He has some amazing pieces in his collection. Upthread at >>15994019 he posted one of the rarest vintage Omegas in existence. He also has a GP HF Observatory Chronometer. It's a shame these threads don't attract that many horology nerds anymore so not enough people here appreciate how interesting many of those watches are.

>>15994682
There is nothing wrong with it, do you really love it ? or are you just buying it to have a watch ?

>>15994506
I think the small collection idea is a good one.If your selective about what you buy your only going to get the things you really love.

Earning more money is also probably bad thing in that you can make lots of purchases with relatively little worry about financial repercussions .

I only tend to buy the things that I obsess over and come back to time and time again, which means I don't really own much stuff. The stuff I do own I really love though

>>15994585
I'd been looking for a black pvd watch and almost bought the regular version of that. The full blacked out is cool, I'll have to check it out.

>>15994560
this would be a fine choice, for someone more refined
i've got more peasant sensibilities

>>15994506
>>15994701
while looking for photos to make this composite i ran across this article, masturbatory sure but i had half convinced myself of a two watch collection already and it helped
>https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/tudor-black-bay-58-and-the-grand-seiko-sbgk007-the-two-watch-collection

>metro gangreserve
>bb58 black
probably keep my spb149 as a beater

>>15994757
i'm the same way, obsessive and picky, i enjoy the selection process as well, but damned if i'm not chuffed to absolute bits with my sense of style and material possessions
cheers

>>15994516
Yea I think they are some one the best white/sliver dials you can get.

>>15994521
Lol it just so happened to be that way.

>>15994538
That's a lot of watches

>>15994674
Yea no problem, your ad letting you buy them, what's the number?

>wistwotch ch-ch-ch-ch-cheeeeck!

>>15994853
>That's a lot of watches
I like watches

>>15994500
If you insist. Consider the shitter platter served.

>>15994734
i dont expect it to change my life, but yes, im in the market for a watch and its around my price point and i like it.

>>15994500
Digital.

>>15994500

>>15994904
The one on the perlon strap is sexy

i won this a couple years ago.

>>15994936
>ass is red

>>15994339
>idiot in pic related
the whole channel is a "rich luxury life" larp

Is Orient a god tier brand? It's gotta be right?

>>15994957
No, but it's fine

>>15994020
I lost mine in a bus crash and cant find it for sale nowhere :'(
I miss it dearly

>>15994957
They're pretty forgettable and have mostly clunky designs, they make a strong argument for quartz movements in the sub 800$ range imo

>>15994911
How do you like the vincero anon? I've always wanted to ask somebody who actually owns one. I've wondered if they are actually shit or if that's overplayed by watch snobs and people annoyed by the overbearing marketing

>>15994957
Their bracelets are crap, the endlinks never fit right. Depending on model you could even get a folded link one too. The brand doesn't carry any heritage to it either, would rather get a Seiko at the same price point or even pay more.

I'm burned out on watches, fellow /wt/ anons. Now I just wear my shitty quartz Magnum PI Chronosport

>>15995029
Nowt wrong with that, nice watch.

>>15994109
it's about 16mm thick

>>15995046
It's 12mm thick, not sure how you think it would be 16mm thick. It's not a Valjoux 7750 chronogrpah or a Marathon diver, anon.

>>15995057

>>15995060

>>15995062

>>15995065

>>15995067

>>15995065
Fuuuaaarrrrk

>>15995065
>mecha-quartz movement which has a 24hr subdial instead of something useful
So close yet so far.

>>15995070

>>15995080

>>15995083
>>15995077
Honestly, for around 500 bucks you can't really complain, but hey, this is /wt/ after all

Stop buying shitters, you’re ruining your life.

>>15995087

>>15994585
how's the legibility on that?

>>15995092

>>15995097

>>15994936
looks great
do you ever get a chance to take it with you or just leave it at home?

>>15995102

Why is someone spamming marketing images

>>15995087
I'm sure I'm not the only one who wouldn't mind paying more for a purely mechanical movement that doesn't have a 24hr subdial. Hell slap an ST19 in it.

>>15995109

>>15995115

>>15995120

>>15995102
meh.
A tiny gold dress watch indistinguishable from a million others just like it.
If it said "Waltham" on the dial instead of Audemars-Piguet you couldn't get 500 bucks for it.

>>15995124
congratulations you've figured out that heritage is bullshit

>>15995123
you have more angles for this? i dig the 3D effect the markers have going on

>>15995123

>>15995127
His handle is @uwe1610

>>15995124
>>15995126
Anyone remember PatekAnon? He posted some tiny gold Patek in laughably poor condition; when /wt/ found out that he paid 5k for it and suggested he got taken for a ride he got extremely asspained.

It was like four straight threads of pure rage.

>>15995097
Was it too much effort for them to make the minute hand big enough to extend to the minute track on the updated version? Every submariner update feels like an even shittier reissue of the original.

>>15995136
It must have been some Patek as it is hard to find one in any condition below $10k.

>>15995136
Did you save any pics? The tiniest Patek is the best one to me, the ref 96.

>>15994500
Behold my brandless collection

>>15995145

>>15993756
Hello frens. How many of you hate my Grand Seiko? I've had a few people say they particularly like it over a few forums. A Grand Seiko spring drive with a matte dial surely has to have a few haters, or has the watch world gotten to polite?

>>15993795
>$40
literally where

>>15995161
Aliexpress

>>15995145
That one is gorgeous; a lot less expensive than I was expecting too.

>>15995154

>>15995180

>>15995180
>Cellini
I'm sorry

>>15995184

>>15995186
A 32mm handwinder with a guilloche dial made in the 2000's by Rolex. I like it.

>>15995144
>It must have been some Patek as it is hard to find one in any condition below $10k.
I looked like the previous owner had gotten his watch winder and his rock tumbler confused

>>15995160
I don't care for Spring Drive. If I were to buy GS it would be hi-beat though if I was ready to spend $3k+ on a watch it would be Omega or Tudor honestly.

>>15995160
I'm planning to buy an SBGX261 soon so obviously I think it's a fucking shitter. Couldn't you afford a Rolex?

What do you guys think?

>>15995160
It's objectively a brilliantly finished watch, with a top tier (tho not full mechanical) movement and a very average bracelet.
Love GS, old and new but some of them leave me a bit cold.
Picrel gets me going and it's just a 9s65. There was an anon who bought one in /wt/ a while ago.

How Chinese is Oris' production? Are they more "Swiss made" than some of the Swiss brands, what with Oris being independent and all? I know Rolex, for all of their cringe business practice, are probably one of the more top down producers of their materials.

>>15995220
I dislike all the older Grand Seikos because they say Seiko 3 times. Seiko Grand Seiko Grand Seiko. It triggers my autism.

>>15995210

>>15995195

>>15995226
fair-o, really not a dealbreaker for me.

>>15995235
You should love it because I'm not alone in this specific type of autism. You can pick up the triple Seiko GSs for a song compared to newer ones, specifically because there are a large amount of people who don't want to see 3 Seikos on the dial. If you don't care about it, you just take a nice deep discount.

>>15995160
Personally I would never have chosen that case style or a black dial, but I'm not generally in the habit of shitting on watches for not suiting my personal aesthetic tastes, as long as their designs aren't offensively terrible (e.g. Hublot).

It's a very well made watch and you got it for an entirely fair price, so I don't see any reason to hate.

>>15995224
I have no idea how Swiss made their "Swiss made" watches are, but I can say that their external finishing is a clear cut above their Swiss competitors in the same price- range. It has stood out to me every time I've handled Oris models up close.

>>15995220
>>15995226
>>15995235
Personally I like the older Seiko - Grand Seiko dials due to the continuity with most of their GS and KS models from the 60s and 70s.

>>15995067
damn thats cool, whats the reference number?

>>15995257
I think 6695, could be wrong.

>>15995268

>>15995160
I hated every photo you posted before it came in but the ones you have taken of it look good. Still there is something weird about the matte dial. They need to do a version of this with vantiblack or blackest black or whatever that shit is called.

>>15995278
The problem is Vantablack is owned by some art fagget and he charges exorbitantly for its use

>>15995180
>>15995186
>>15995195
I actually like this. Pretty understated if you need to have a ROOOOLEEEEEEEXXXXXXX

>>15995291
>The problem is Vantablack is owned by some art fagget
I read the story about that, talk about being a massive faggot, anyway apparently the stuff cause lung cancer or some shit, so he can enjoy playing with his toys untill he gets mesothelioma

>>15995294
If you want a small, mono-brand collection, you could do a lot worse than a Rolex steel sports watch and a Cellini for dressing up.

>>15995108
i never took it with me, it just lives in a drawer.

>>15995160
I like the watch, I hate the raging faggot autists who are completely obsessed with GS and jerk off over macro shots ruining every other thread.

>>15995294
I think the reason people make fun of Cellinis is because a lot of them cost 10k and for that price you have many options for more compelling dress watches

>>15995315
>mono brand collection
Such a bizarre arbitrary restriction on a watch collection.

>>15995294
Would rather have an air king though they are already rivaling old datejusts in price

shitted my pants again wheres the mudman when you need him?

>>15994210
What are you actually talking about? The company doesn't have anything to gain from the second hand market value of it's watches. The Prospex alpinist isn't a re-issue, it's just the next generation after the SARB017; An evolution, if you will. Naturally it will differ from the previous generation. The problem is that all these "re-issues" fuck with the aesthetics of what they're trying to be a copy of and end up being more like a half decent homage.

>>15993929
Somebody fucked that watch up. Shit won't work

>>15995323
Same, just posted it because of how special it is in a way for a company like Rolex. Gotta be quick about it if you still want an Air King for a somewhat reasonable price.

>>15995339
>if you want an Air King
you don't.

Rolex guys will be like "Someone spent the bare minimum to join the club."
Non-Rolex guys will be like "Someone was clearly real desperate to join the club."

Non-watch people will be like "Wow. That is a tiny watch."

>>15995351
what if he just wants a nice watch

>>15995355
Air King ain't that either.

>>15995357
isn't the air king basically a rolex precision, which was the actual watch worn to everest?

>>15995355
>what if he just wants a nice watch
then the Air King is still a poor option. Its price is inflated by the Rolex badge.
The cheapest, most beat-up, most no-way-that-bracelet-is-genuine Air Kings are around 3k USD.

For that kind of money, you could get a lot of watch.

>>15995351
That's a sad take on life.

>>15995367
3k? I thought it was 2k. what the hell man is there any rolex that's actually worth it?

>>15995361
The old "Precision" Air King is an Oyster Perpetual No-Date but they didn't submit the movement to COSC for certification. The case is slightly less elaborately finished.

It is literally the lowest point of entry into Rolex "sports watch" ownership. You can find DJ's for less, but since everyone and their dog's manager has a DJ, you want a "steeeeeel sport Roooolex".

>>15995371
>what the hell man is there any rolex that's actually worth it?
the funny thing is that really all Rolexes are worth it because no matter what, you can sell it for more than you paid.

I'm not kidding. I buy old DJs, OPs, Air Kings, whatever, and flip them to assholes. All I do is clean them and take better pictures. I have never failed to make a profit on any sale.

>>15995339
>Gotta be quick about it if you still want an Air King for a somewhat reasonable price.
How are you posting from 2005?

>>15995380
See
>>15995379

>>15994022
Underrated

>>15995205
I completely agree with you on the high beat price, I do appreciate spring drive however and had no issues picking one up over a purely mechanical

>>15995206
I was going to get that exact model originally, decided I liked the case size on the sbga285 more. I have owned 2 rolexes in the past

>>15995220
This is my take on them as well

>>15995240
I think you are probably a well adjusted reasonable person, although I kind of miss getting hate thrown at you for minor reasons why someone dislikes your watch. The hate and banter is way better than the trend of everyone being real polite imo, kind of like anonymous forums being a cluster fuck

>>15995278
Thanks for the input fren

>>15995319
I hate that cunt too fren

So you guys bitching about the new seiko reisse are aware that they are also doing sever colors in a 38mm version with a 6r35 and normal date window placement right? Like this SBDC147
You don't have to get the ugly 4k shitter on the bund strap with the 4:30 date window.
Are you mad about this one too?
https://japan-select.com/collections/collection/products/copy-of-seiko-prospex-the-1959-alpinist-re-creation-sben001-made-in-japan-jdm

>>15995392
That's not the point though.

The issue that virtually all of the people who are big enough Seiko nerds to be interested in spending 4k on an original alpinist limited edition re-issue are likely to be extremely annoyed by the dumb choices Seiko made with that re-issue, especially the addition of a date window.

>>15995383
But the air king is a literal shitpile that nobody would lay more than $400 for if it didn't have rolex on the dial.
Pic related is in fucking great condition compared to the trash people are spending three grand on so they can own a rolex.

can you guys help me to identify this casio? i found it in a lot of watches i bought. it says JAPAN N on the bottom. so far it seems to be from the 80s and related to the A662 series - different color scheme and bracelet though.

>>15995399
It's still going to sell out in a week

>>15995404
it also has an interesting folding clasp I hevent seen before

>>15994500
Pretty happy with current state though there are still others I want to get.

Personal favorite is the moonphase speedmaster. Day-date is the "boss" watch for occasions and the Seamaster and OP are just all-arounders. Don't wear the regular speedmaster much anymore.

>>15995405
Why is everything a sneaker drop limited edition sell out in a week now?

>>15995414
prey on FOMO faggots mostly, very profitable

>>15995405
Anyone who loves Seiko (or Grand Seiko, for that matter) has never tried to service one.

Seiko doesn't care how much you paid. They will lavish the same care on a Grand Seiko hi-beat GMT as they will a Seiko 5, which is to say, very little. It's the same facility. Strip it, clean it, put it back together, box it, ship it.

If you get it back and the bezel insert is all fucked up, you send them pics and they'll tell you, "It's within spec."

And that, kids, is why you always sell a Grand Seiko instead of servicing it. Seikoweebs won't know the difference anyway since they'll be graduating from a +/- 15 sec./day SKX.

>>15995402
Not sure where you're looking if you can't find a nice Air King for 3k. It retailed for a little over 3k when they still made them, by the way.

>>15995412
How rich?

>>15995436
not very. its all reps.

>>15995412
>>15995440
No wonder I was getting a sense of uncanny valley from looking those watches.

Also hilarious that seiko decided to reissue that watch when some foreign watch forum got Merkur to do a version of it last year. Sapphire, nh-35, no date for $225

>>15995404
>>15995409
That's a Casio A-660, google the model number if you want to find out more about it.

>>15995453
Apparently the best way to get seiko to reissue a classic design is to start selling Chinese copies of it.

>>15995392
>X
>Automatic
>20 BAR
yes.

I forgot that seiko is never allowed to change any of their branding because their whole fanbase has autism and can't handle change

>>15995472
With all due respect, I care less about change as much as I do about something as fugly as the prospex logo.

>>15995436
>>15995440

They're legit. I do $400k a year consulting.

>>15995421
What experience have you had personally with Seiko servicing? Or is coming from other people?

I'm not taking the piss and saying you have to have personal experience before remarking on poor service, just genuinely curious

>>15995478
Fuck off faggot go kys. It's clearly how the foreigners think Americans go about brands. It's a rip off of Body Glove

>>15995501

>>15995367
A lot of the ones I'm seeing on ebay have horrendously fitting endlinks too. Wouldn't want to spend that much and get a rattling mess. For that kind of money I might as well step up and buy a new Globemaster.

>>15995492
I had a GS SBGH005 serviced. It was a couple years old and it was running a little slow.
So it took it to my Grand Seiko boutique for service.

They say they'll send it to Japan. It will take about 8 weeks.

Two, then three months go by..."Uh...where's my watch."
"Let me check and I'll get back to you."

(I don't want anyone to think that the guys and girls at the GS boutique were anything less than total professionals here, by the way.)

After four months, I get my watch back. There's a hair under the crystal, the crown feels really rough and it's now 15 seconds fast per day.

I go back and ask what the fuck. They make some calls and apparently, all of this is "to spec."
The people at the GS boutique were so humiliated they actually PAID to send the watch to an indy watchsmith to unfuck what the factory did.

Soon as I got my watch back, I sold it.

>>15995515
>Globemaster
Underrated hero of the Omega lineup.

>>15995524
Damn, that is really piss poor. I just assumed that the servicing for Grand Seiko would be top tier like a lot of their other stuff. Your anecdote definetly would have influenced my decision to purchase a spring drive since no other third party options are available

Do all rubber straps cause sweating? Have been wearing my first rubber strap this week and my wrist sweats like a pig.

And this is while it’s still cool out. I can’t imagine how much worse it would be in the summer.

>>15995542
>>15995524
Yeah I've heard these nightmare stories too and that's why I'm hesitant to buy anything from Seiko that isn't running on NH35 that any assclown can fix up in a day.

>>15995549
Too tight

>>15994100
It’s just a cool piece of trivia. But yes a dive watch that is specced to 300+m of water resistance is a much more impressive technical achievement IMO

>>15995554

I’ve loosened it and my skin still sweats wherever the rubber makes contact with my skin.

>>15994100
Space is pretty harsh environment.

The Speedmaster is the only watch to be qualified by NASA for extravehicular activity. To this day all NASA astronauts are assigned Speedmasters.

Quartz watchs fail the 200 degrees fahrenheit test.

>>15995562
Go tropic strap

>>15995564
If lcds worked in space astronauts would be wearing g shocks.

>>15995492
>What experience have you had personally with Seiko servicing?
Not him, but in my small country we have one official Seiko service, and they suck. The guy at the service said he can't change the crystal for a custom one and that i'd have to order the original (35-45€), which would mean waiting for a few months for it to arrive. So i took it to the watchguy in my city and he said 'sure, i can do it no problem, i can even make it sit flush with the case!' (which i prefer as the original sticks out cca 3mm for some unknown reason) and i paid less for the crystal and work than the price of the original. I'm selling the watch anyway because it's a bit too big and heavy for me. I never went to the official service again after that, since my watchguy is more than capable of doing everything they do cheaper. He also serviced my '64 Weekdater later on and had no problems with it, he managed to get it to -10s per day so i really don't see a reason why i would use them ever again.

>>15995527
>>15995515
>Globemaster
Based.

>>15995570
Service centers are a total meme. Just find a good independent like this anon and you're gold.

>>15995581
Does GS have parts accounts limitations or do they sell parts to anyone? If the later, having a trusted independent service the watch might actually be a feasible strategy.

>>15995588
They don't sell any GS movement parts to independents.
My seiko specialist said he'd have little problems servicing a mechanical GS but that getting parts is impossible; they just won't sell them to you.

>>15995594
Well that's a problem then. This is an area were GS really needs to step it up.

>>15995602
Agreed. Not that they are alone in this, the swiss do the same. Rolex won't do it. Omega (even if earlier Omega's just used high end ETA calibres) won't sell parts to independents except through a very convoluted accreditation system that maybe 1 or 2 watchmakers in a given country usually get and when they get it they use it to fuck you silly price-wise.

Every major watch brand seems to be trying to squeeze out independents unfortunately and theres 0 chance of it changing anytime soon.

>>15994419
Some of the Citizen Corso watches are similar but not exactly the same.

>>15995611
>Every major watch brand seems to be trying to squeeze out independents unfortunately and theres 0 chance of it changing anytime soon.
It's a shame really. Guess right to repair is as relevant to watches as it is for tractors or laptops.

Rec watches that are 50s rockabilly style

>>15995673
Whatever vintage hamilton you like the look of; maybe a ventura.

>>15995673
Surplus military field watches from ww2 and before would fit the bill (or reproductions thereof).

>>15995673
Rockabilly is really a modern take on the old greaser style, and the greaser style came out of WW2 when guys came home from the war and home built hot rods and motorcycles. And they wore pretty simple stuff.
Field watches, blue collar stuff. Maybe a vintage Hanhart or Waltham.

post based collections
picrel is roger smith's collection as featured on Talking Watches. I froth that marine chronometer

>>15994019
HOLY FUCK...

Correct me if I am wrong.... is the the Omega Synchro Beat caliber 372?

PLS RESOND

>>15995705
it is, yes

>>15995755
I don't know if you're the anon who owns it, but how did you even get one? I am sure it is an interesting story.

What else is in your collection?

Thanks anon.

>>15995772
I am, yes. I bought it from a dealer recently who had it up for auction. I wrote a little about it here.
>>15994275

Some of my other collection pieces are here.
>>15994538

>>15995698
Not bad

How is OMEGA pronounced?
Oh-MEG-Gah?
Oh-MEE-Gah?

>>15995796
per youtube videos on omega's official youtube channel, OH-may-guh

>>15995777
You have an amazing collection and congrats on winning the auction.

What draws you into a draw, so much so that you have to add it to your collection?

What are your top 5 favorite watches in your collection?

What is your grail?

Thanks anon, I really appreciate it.

>>15995805
Sorry.

What draws you into a watch, so much so that you have to have it?

>>15995805
Thank you

My collecting interest is in high-precision watches (of their respective time periods) and novel timekeeping mechanisms (not so much non-timekeeping complications like calendars, chronographs, repeaters, etc). Anything that helps tell that story has a place in my collection.

I maintain a tier list for my collection. My S+ tier currently consists of the GP Observatory Chronometer, the Omega Synchrobeat, the Citizen 0100, and the Citizen 8650. The fifth watch would be my great-grandmother's watch.

A grail is a watch that is almost mystical, that a full-on quest, and astounding amounts of luck, would be required to obtain. For me, it is the Omega watch with serial 39050076, the first to achieve straight zero rates across fifteen days of chronometer testing, as seen here
>>15994302

For obvious reasons, I will never own it.

I’m still hankering for an ugly ass, oversized, Invicta-tier Seiko. Fuck this thing is uglier than a GShock but I dig it

>>15995677
>>15995686
>>15995690
Thanks

>>15995796
Tea sow

>>15994149
going forward, Seiko will never put any branding on the dial that isn't Presage, Prospex, or 5.
Also the Alpinist rivals Squale in terms of the sheer level of overhyped bullshit with no substance that it is

>>15995838
I haven't seen anyone hype squale for like 5 years. It's been banished to the dustbin of shitter history.
Alpinists, specifically the green dialed variety like picrel are dope though

>>15995827
I dont mind him

>>15995814
Not that anon but do you ever worry about the eventual servicing costs with so many pieces? Hell I worry about that with just 7 watches myself. Who would you even trust to service that synchrobeat anyway?

>>15995855
Yes, it's a concern.

I haven't found anyone yet.

>>15995859
would Omega be willing to service it?

>>15995862
They might, but I will not be trusting Omega with it, imagining it coming back with a replaced service dial, for instance.

>>15995862
If I had that synchobeat I would not trust Omega with it. Same way I wouldn't trust Rolex with some rare vintage piece like a double red sea dweller.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcPmQfefSv4

>>15995879
wtf another vid?

>>15995879
What's his beef with Islander watches?

>>15995814
Thank you anon and I wish you well on your quest and thanks for taking the time to answer my questions.

>>15995879
SDATech
5 minutes ago
Hello Jody...
There is a brand called hmt, an old indian brand now abandoned.
Once they had produced lots of good mechanical watches. I want you to cover one of any....
You can find them on ebay...
The hmtindia website don't ship outside of the country....

I really feel you would have a great feeling to use one, the most important thing is those are very economy friendly watches

>>15995889
I'm always happy to share what I know.

>>15995905
What made you get into watches, and more specifically high precision watches?

>>15995921
I got into watches specifically after chancing upon a book on movement design. I started wearing some basic modern eta stuff, but quickly moved to vintage. The chronometer trials were a big interest of mine, and that lead quickly to other interests in precision. When I thought about what made something a good watch, for me it always came down to telling the time as precisely as possible given the tools available at the time. There's also quite a bit of good documentation and sources available, if one is willing to look, on the topic, which made it easier to get further into it. I also inveated in significant amounts of time measuring equipment for my home watch lab.

>>15995930
I haven't exactly heard amazing things about the finishing or hands lining up on the indices on chronomasters

>>15995930
That's really amazing.

I apologize if this is too personal, but are you a watchmaker?

>>15995941
Lines up fine for me. I think the finishing on my chronomasters is excellent, I would consider everything equal to or better than my modern GS with the exception of the indices.

>>15995943
I am not a watchmaker. I've regulated my mechanical, tuning fork, and quartz watches, and changed batteries and straps, but that is all.

>>15995947
What watch impresses you the most, but others don't seem to pay attention to?

>>15995952
I wouldn't say a lot of watches *impress* me, specifically. I suppose I could mention my Zodiac SST, a 36k bph watch from c. 1970. The 36k movements from the period were no joke; a simple service got these results out of the watch, half a century after it was made.

>>15995959
got a pic? sounds cool

>>15995959
What's the quirkiest watch you've come along?

Do you happen to have a list of the most accurate watches by each year?

>>15995969

>>15995970
It might be something like a bulova thermatron, seiko 8t23, seiko 5s21, citizen 7803a. Most of my watches arent particularly quirky.

I do not. Talking just about production models I will say that in the 40s it was probably rolex kew a chronometers, in the 50s omega merit chronometers, in the 60s the accutron and 36k observatory chronometers, in the 70s high-frequency quartz watches from citizen, and those same citizens held the crown from the 70s until the citizen 0100 came out two years ago.

>>15995978
Again, thank you for everything!

You made me really wanna get a Chronomaster.

It's getting late where I am at and I should really be going to sleep. Again, thank you.

redpill me on omega servicing. planning on buying a new aqua terra

>>15995472
Nah, that X is just stupid looking and you're retarded.

>>15994489
Not so obvious watches

I wear an Apple watch and i dont care if it looks stupid i really like the timers on it and everything.

I dislike how it looks but normies wear it so its ok

>>15996013
Heavy dependency on Omega. Prices between 500-1000€, will only go up

So I have my first watch on the way to me with a metal bracelet. I think the bracelet might not fit, should I buy tools or something to adjust it? If so what?

This looks good but do I really need everything in it? https://www.amazon.de/Eventronic-Uhrenwerkzeug-Reparatur-Uhrmacherwerkzeug-Nylontasche/dp/B071P7B672/

>>15996174
Does the bracelet come with push pins or screw in links? You would only need a pic related if it's push pins, paired maybe with a pair of small pliers. If they are screw pins, a 1.2mm screwdriver would be enough.

>>15996174
You can probably take it to your local mall and pay someone $5 to resize it for you. The tool you use is pretty cheap if you want to buy it though, it just has a small flathead screwdrive on one end and a pointy end like a scribe on the other, you can use the flathead to depress the spring bars and take the bracelet off or use it for unscrewing the the screw in the links, and the pointy scribe part is for pushing out the pins that hold the links together. Nearly ever watch will have the pin or the screws system for the links, unless it is a certain few seiko models, which use a collar as well as a pin, but you use the same tool for them as well

Might be worthwhile getting the tool if you plan on keeping watch as a hobby

>>15996185
>>15996188
I think it's push pins? Pic related. I don't think watch shops have open since my country is in lockdown.

One of these then?
https://www.amazon.de/Uhrenwerkzeug-Reparaturset-Uhrenarmband-Stiftausschl%C3%A4ger-Uhrmacherwerkzeug/dp/B07CZG4KGV/

https://www.amazon.de/Vastar-Uhrenwerkzeug-Uhrmacherwerkzeug-Reparaturset-Uhrenarmband/dp/B07N814K8Y/

https://www.amazon.de/Uhrmacherwerkzeug-Stiftausdr%C3%BCcker-Federstabentferner-Uhrenarmband-Metallschmuck/dp/B08S3GQRHQ/

The first has more reviews but doesn't have that thing that is in first anons picture and instead has a hammer. Idk if there's a difference.

>>15996173
not bad if i only need to service it once every 5 years

>>15995233
What model is this? I like it

>>15994067
Congratulations on your 23 jewel Polet.

>>15996210
You don't necessarily need anything besides the tool, like don't need anything to hold the watch while you do it, I have done it in the pass with the tool holding it in my hands with a towel down to avoid scratches and a pair of pliers

Have a look on YouTube and see how people do it, and get whatever tools you personally deem necessarily, I have done it with a paper clip and needles nose pliers, but get whatever you feel comfortable using. The bracelet typically has a little arrow pointing what direction the pins need to be pushed out

>>15996210
Take a look at these links:

https://www.uhrenarmband-versand.de/Uhrenbandversand-s3123h36-Stiftaustreiber-benu.html

https://www.uhrenarmband-versand.de/Uhrenbandversand-p38609h596s4171-Stiftaustreiber-Luca.html

As others have said you don't need anything else but the tool. It is a bit easier to remove links while the bracelet is removed but it is easier to try the size after adjusting it while the bracelet is still attached. I would also recommend buying a "name-brand" tool rather than some chink shit from amazon.

>>15996215
It’s basically a brand new Tissot every five years. And a few years ago, mechanical Watches needed service every 10 years, don’t get raped by the service mafia

>>15996238
>I would also recommend buying a "name-brand" tool rather than some chink shit from amazon.
But why? Surely something like that can't be done wrong.

>>15996249
All my chinese pot metal bracelet link removers and spring bar removal tools bend or were highly inaccurate.

>>15996248
1k for 5 years is not that much. that's like a half-week salary.

What are you wearing on shitter Sunday?

>>15996288
ur mom

>>15996317
I told you to stay off 4chan dad.

>>15996288
What's the best way for me to put some wear onto this watch? I want it to have a worn-in look like Karl Lagerfeld's Royal Oak.

>>15996411
get some Cape Cod Cloth and just start rubbing at the natural wear points.

Feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the strap options and stuff. Do I want leather, velour, nato, perlon, something else? What colors or brands (am in EU/GER). For everyday wear, that is. I read the pastebin but it's so much to take in. Would like to stay under 30 for a single band, 40 at most if it's really good.

I liked the look of the Eulit perlons but they don't have 19mm options unfortunately. Taking recommendations.

Migrate:

>>15996462
>>15996462
>>15996462
>>15996462
>>15996462

poorfag here- sub $100 automatic movement that isn't invicta, used, aliexpress, or some once a year sale... please

>>15996427
Good call.

>>15995412
Very very nice, I love the Daydate! Always wanted one, after I get a Reverso and Sub that will be my next watch or a daytona.

The moonphase speedy aways worried me being 44mm and she thick! But look nice next to the OG speedy. Probably has the best moon on the market.

Seamasters a good beater for you like myself and the OG speedy doesn't see much time on my wrist as well, I baby it a bit. Love the design so much first grial, lusted after it for years broke so it's special to me.

You picked the right dial for the OP, amazing collection. If your on 400k a year, it's a very humble collection or like me your non watch like is expensive. Daddy's play money.

>>15994714
Yeah that was me in that grid thread.

>>15994831
ive been saving up cash for mine... a broke student what can i say.

>>15996262
So, would you mind giving me 1K every 5 years?

>>15996465
Vostok