/fa/ - Fashion

>>15956822
We're poly so we cuck each other frequently and no one gets mad, it's based.

omega for omegas

>>15956871
I have to say that you are one of the hottest watch models on here and I don't know how you manage to always look confident and sexy in a sea of freckled geeks and pale nerd creatures.
I thank God for your beautiful wrist every time I see you post!

>>15956858
i have a watch lady fetish

>>15956895

>>15956898

Another day of not being a wristlet, knowing I can wear almost any watch.

>>15956900

>>15956904

>>15956903
get a tuna man

>>15956903
ok fatty

>>15956903
>f-fatty
No I'm man sized.

14rd for chink shitters

>>15956936
You gonna whip your dick out?

>>15956895
thiccer wrists than mine
thats a no from me

>>15956893
Thanks anon.

>>15956969
And you appreciate fine tea?
*swoons*

>>15956913
Why not just get a Rolex? This is really stupid, this is like the 4th copy.

Rolex>Aqua Terra>Seiko>Citizen

>>15957035
>why not get the most boring boomer brand known to mankind?

no

>>15957035
I’m mainly a Seiko guy, there are cool Rolexes too, but this is stupid advice. Wear what you want to wear. Those citizens are nice. It’s not a zero sum game, either you have the nicest watch this anon thinks exists or you’re a piece of shit. The hobby is cool because there’s interesting and valid options at every price point.

is it gay to get his and hers watches?

Post some understated pieces.

>>15957083
yes

>>15957086

>>15957080
Thanks anon, bought the nicest watch I could afford.

>>15957080
>It’s not a zero sum game, either you have the nicest watch this anon thinks exists or you’re a piece of shit.
Not really, but you have to admit there are very clear price brackets in every watch category, and that they reflect things about you that you're clearly not very comfortable with since you're denying it.

Soon you'll have smartphone apps (or apps for augmented reality glasses) that will just pick up your entire wardrobe and give the entire information to everyone around you, just like your social media history, and other relevant stuff with facial and gait recognition. So your place in society will be immediately visible to everyone around you. Then what?

should i join the local watch club?

>>15957111
yea and when i see a guy with a rolex i think hes a piece of shit

>>15957112
if you have one around, sure why not.
does anyone knows of one that actually meets in person in Melbourne?
you know, when we aren't locked down and that

>>15957112
Aren't most of them just dickwagging contests full of nouveau riche chinks?

Like, what do you even do in a watch club?

>>15957112
Absofuckinglotely not. Fat manlet cope and hair product as far as the eye can see.

>>15957126
talk shit, drink piss and hangout.
like any club I imagine.

>>15957126
>Like, what do you even do in a watch club?

>>15957143
>drink piss
What did she mean by this?

>>15957116
>yea and when i see a guy with a rolex i think hes a piece of shit
Why?

>>15957126
talk about seiko
discuss seiko
compare seikoes
obsess over seikoes

>>15957160
because rolex fans are the worst, bar none
there are more expensive and better "social status" watches than rolex (whatever that shit even means)
but unlike rolex fans they dont go around spewing about ROLEX every 3rd sentence

and typically they are very low info about watches in general
one I spoke to was even amazed that its possible to change straps without bringing it to the AD

>>15957111
I guess I’ll become an AR glasses developer because that sounds dope.

>>15957174
kys

>>15957174
Probably does to brainwashed morons, yeah.

>>15956858
anyone know where I can get one of these as a replica?

>>15957157
beer

Just buy what youf ucking enjoy. Wear it and smile when you lookdown at your wrist. Anything else is playing to an imaginary crowd. The watchmaerket is so shit and soft right now that you can get good bargains if you look hard enough. Stop using watches as status symbols and just buy the fuck what make syou smile...that's what i did. The 300 chronograph is on the way..fucking stuck in shipping righ nw. Who the fuck cares. Youc anget a shitty Rolex Cellini for less than a Turdor todayon Chrono24...that should tell you that a) the secondary market is has prices determiend by who wants what and how many of them there are and b) who is retiring and who is looking to sell off their 'valuable' collction. Fuck these boomeers...they think they can sell their collections and retire on that alone. No. The market is saturated with so much bullshit (two-tone datejustsand other Rolex degernerates, Longines that no one wants, Paneria, etc.) that you can get a good deal if you want somethign no one wants. If you want something everyone is TOLD to want (stainless-steele ROWLEX sportsmodelgecschichte) then the prices are high right now but everything else is dropping like hotcakes. Save, search, and buy ...now is the time as the boomers want to retire. They can be forced into prices that YOU want..YOU HAVE THE PAOWER!

another day of being a wristlet, barely fitting a f91w everyday

>>15957083
It depends...is she worth it? I once had agirl I almost married who I would hae bought heavena nd earth for. A his and hers would have offended her sensitiblity of individuality thouhg...to each their own. Don't do Fossil though; if you do his and hers, do Omega, Rolex, JLC, or higher. Anythine else shows that you're a loser who drinks diet coke and joins the gym in January.

>>15957112
I'd be fucking ashamed to be in any club that would want to have me as a member...fucking Grousho Marx said that I think, but in a more polite way....the clever soul.

>>15957161
I wish I could. THe enginnerring and finishing is superb but the designs are fFUCKING ULGY AS SHIT. WHy can't they cget their fucking act together. If they had a modicum of proportional undersatnding of shapes and shit, tey'd make a fucking fortune. As it is, they're watches for those whot hink they're smart but really just buy the brand because noone else has it and therefore they are 'SPECIAL' like the climate girl. You wont be happy because the watches are made for depressed populations. Jus tlike the french.


>>15957187
The replikas are bullshit...the only superreplicas that are worthit are the Rowlex ad the Pnerai...the APS loosk like fucking fgarbabeg.

>I gaev up on pic related because the 2599.80 came up at a good price...fucking market is amazing right now if you know your avlues. Fuck the chinese shit...it can always be had later on. Like Flieger and the rest.

>>15957157
yank detected

>>15957187
>settling for a replica
ngmi

Rolex:
>Everyone will respect me.
Grand Seiko:
>Connoisseurs will think I'm smart
Omega
>I want to be James Bond
Tudor
>I can't afford Rolex
JLC
>I can't afford a PP
Audomars Penis
>I don't care if I can't afford a PP
Patek Philippppppe
>I believe in marketing
Lange
>Fuck the swiss
Credor
>Fuck the swiss and the french in uranus
Vacheron
>do you heritage?
Cartier
>do you girlfriend?
Breitling
>I'm a hero
Panerai
>I'm the hero
Vintage anything
>I'm smarter than you
pocketwatch anything
>my family is richer than yours
Why can't we all just get along?

>>15956936
show dick

>>15957094
most based watch in thread

>>15957226
cringe post
stop using watches as validation
fix your life and clean your room

>>15956969
Fuck that's gorgeous

>>15957319
no it isn't

>>15956969
gaiwan pilled
chinese greens? or oolong

I hate gilt dials so fucking much. They always look so tacky. I could make an exception if it was actual gold rather than pvd or whatever they use 99% of the time.

>>15956858
Going to pick up my Grand Seiko this weekend. Might go shoot some guns while I'm at it

>>15957349
Genuine question, but with all the crazy GS dials there are out there 99% of which are stunning. Why go for a regular ol' black one?

Is there something about them in person that doesn't photograph. Or just a preference for something simpler.

>>15957358
Because it has to look like a Rolex LMFAO.

>>15956871
What model citizen is that? Dimensions?

>>15957358
Budget was a big reason and the 39mm case size was another, was going to get the black dialed quartz model, but this felt good on the wrist and had a big more going for it on account of the spring drive movement. This comes is a fair bit cheaper than the hi beat, they are like $9k aud and a lot of the cool dialed ones are 41mm and potentially only available at the boutique in my country, which means no discount so paying full RRP. I was going to go for the fixed bezel black GMT as well, but I liked this the best.

I'll post pics when I get it in this thread, if you are a lurker

>>15957364
I owned a Rolex and sold it

>>15957358
agree
its such a waste to go GS but opt for a black or white one
GS has the best dials why wouldn't you?

>>15957384
The current grand seiko line up doesn't have any interesting dials in normal sizes that aren't overpriced

>>15957399
But it has tons.

should i buy a seiko5?

>>15957429
Save up and buy something nicer.

>>15957399
There are a lot of interesting quartz dials below 5K

Any thoughts here on the OP36 vs the DJ36?

Love the fluted bezel and jubilee on the stainless steel/white gold DJ, but OP36 has AR coating and a time-only watch diversifies my long-term collection a bit, I think, since I'm planning to get a washi Chronomaster soon too and long-term I'd love to go for the Overseas, assuming I don't get fired over the next few years.

Either way, dial recommendations would be appreciated. Currently leaning towards black dial if I go DJ36, but torn between black and silver/gold for the OP.

>>15957457
I wouldn't buy an OP because rolex is not a good buy right now and it has a smooth polished bezel.

That kind of bezel accumulates scratches easily and doesn't look good after regular wear.

Spend $300 and donate the rest to charity.

>>15957473
Would I rather give money to charity (which most are scams who spend most of their money on executives) or own a rolex?
Stupid moralfag

>>15957473
Appreciate the thought on the polished bezel, it's definitely one of the things I prefer about the DJ (though at the same time i can't help but wonder if the fluted bezel cuts down the versatility a bit compared to a smooth one). I'm comfortable with the amount I spend on charity at the moment though, so I'm still very much in the market for a nice watch at this price range.

>>15957383
Its still a sexy looking watch i have a soft spot for inky blacker than my ex-girlfriends heart dials. I dint understand what is up with GS sizes why they make so many big watches for a country with some many small guys.

I'd love a GS thought they are out of my budget atm. I think my wrists are big enough to pull off a 41mm so if i ever get the cash I may see what's around.

>>15957480
Pick better charities

>>15957177
I’m good on that. Post a watch!

>>15957510
Nice GS.I like the strap. w2c

>>15957226
>Omega
>I want to be James Bond
I am James Bond.

>>15957510
ere you go.

any upcoming sub $500 watches?
have a purchase in mind, but want to see if it's worth waiting since releases at this price point can shake things up a bit

>>15957535
I know the Nodus sector dive is planned for a 2021 run.

There are the usual like Helm who have started operating wait list to purchasing watches due to their order system being such a shitshow.

What have you been looking at anon ?

Humor me, /wt/. Digital watches that aren't Casio and aren't the Reverso Duo.

>>15957661
elektronika

>>15957661
>Reverso Duo
>digital watch
??

citizen anadigi
seiko digital field tuna

>>15957661
Forester

>>15956858
thoughts on the rolex datejust oysterquartz?

I want a Samurai...........

>>15957697
Then buy one.

>>15957661

>>15957661

Alright, /wt/.
Give me your best panda dial watches for under 5 grand, preferably chronographs.
Pic unrelated

>>15957661
Hamilton PSR digital

>>15957330
That was a Sichuan mao feng, so green. Love me some oolong though. Just finished off an incredible roasted tie guan yin from this ballin ass motherfucker in Chaozhou who has the dopest tea pad in the old city. He took me and some friends to get hot pot and we got the worst ducking food poisoning of our lives. 10/10 experience, would shit fire again. Anyway, the tea is for real.

>>15957519
Thanks, it’s a colareb lambskin. I want to get something from Hoa Sa for it. Those viet homies know what’s up.

>>15957694
I like mine, the two tone bracelet is pretty cool as well. The ticking i will say, is louder than I thought possible from a quartz. But it’s grown on me. Normally quartzes have so little sound and presence compared to a mechanical... this one you definitely notice. I think if you lived in a perpetually quiet room it could be like water torture lol. But yeah, I love the case ship, mix of polished and brushed finishing, chunky oyster bracelet, it’s a 10/10 for me. Really glad I made the trade too, because I’ve got an ultra grail coming to replace the traded watch.

>>15957086

>>15957814
I want a vintage Seiko so bad.

I'd be tempted to get one of those escapement time homages is all the vintage Seiko in my budget look like shit.

the absolutely awful name and font ruin it for me though.

>>15957814
Wish you could find one of these for under like $8k, fugggg. They're so cool.

>>15957111
Has it ever occurred to you that not everyone is as insecurely obsessed about their perceived social status as you? And that some of us buy watches because we actually like them or find them interesting or reasons other than trying to flex?

Probably not. People like you usually assume that everyone else secretly thinks the same exact way as you and is as cripplingly insecure about their social status as you seem to be.

>>15957814
God... damn... Why didn't they fucking stick with this text layout?

My aunt give me this. What do you think?

Keep it?

>>15957835

Looks like mall fashion watch , but keep for when you see your aunt anon.

Don't be an arsehole.

>>15957835
Case and dial look enormous. Take it off the bracelet and throw it on a brown leather strap and it might look half-decent.

>>15957835
Keep it for your aunt, maybe wear it when you visit her as >>15957841 suggested. Otherwise, probably not something I'd wear in general. It's inoffensive enough, though.

>>15957826
Right? They got kinda close with this 57GS reissue, if only they could’ve scragged the Seiko logo.

>>15957835
shouldnt really sell gifts, anyway i dont think you are going to get much for it

a quick google turns out that Nivada is a real heritage swiss brand, thought most will know the name "Croton" instead

>>15957111
my clothes are almost entirely too old, rare, or generic for anything using a small sensor camera to figure out.

>>15957841
Thanks anon.
>>15957847
>>15957858
I like that idea. It will look very diferent. Thanks.

This is how it looks like. It feels kind of big.

>>15957884
It’s not bad. I agree with the others, pop it on a leather strap.

>>15957661

>>15957694
The 17000 is my favourite Rolex design, ever.

>>15957777
just placed the order. this is exciting.

Why can't Rolex put the cyclops inside the crystal?

>>15957920
it would foul the hands

>>15957913
Grats, which dial did you get? Got a listing pic?

Now that my 57GS reissue is gone, I'm hankering for the real thing... this one's real nice, but is it $1800 nice? I'm betting I can find one closer to $1k.

>>15957934
Get the king seiko reissue
https://www.gnomonwatches.com/products/king-seiko-ksk-re-creation-140th-anniversary-ltd-ed-3000pcs-ref-sdka001

>>15957941
That thing's like 3k and doesn't even have a nice movement, why would I? I'd rather pick up a decent shape original, they're not at all scarce.

>>15957927
My grandpa gifted me a Seiko, it's not very expensive probably like $500 or something. The one in that pic looks really nice, how much does that go for? I love my watch, it's kinetic and I've worn it in two oceans, jungles, deserts, and many many cities. Reliable and Simple as.

>>15957967
It’s an original Cocktail Time, forget the reference number. They’re under the Presage line now. You can get them from Macy’s on sale regularly for under $300, they’re great. Bit chonky thicc but awesome.

>>15957967
The seiko Presage cocktail time models are pretty affordable they usually got for $400-$700 depending on the exact model.
https://www.gnomonwatches.com/search?q=Cocktail&type=product

>>15957983
Actually more like $300 on the low end

>>15957823
You're never going to find a clean 4580-7010 for 8k. Last one listed was last year, with a badly patinaed dial, for 17k, and sold in an hour.

>>15957927
ref 17013, golden sunburst dial, baton hour markers, with original box&papers but likely refinished as it has almost no signs of wear.

>>15957996
You’re really painting a picture with words. Sounds dope, nice one anon.

>>15957987
Oof. Yeh that’s more like it. Honestly I’d rather get one of the new modern GS at prices like that.

>>15957777
What the fuck is going on in this picture why are two people wearing the same sleeve why does the person on top have such an oddly shaped hand

>>15958022
My sleeve is in the middle, it’s kind of baggy and fell over on the bottom wrist, who was wearing short sleeves. The top is I guess a little contorted to squish it into the frame.

>>15956644

Reading the end of last thread. PP are based af. They saw what was happening to AP and decided they wanted more.

VC, PP and 3rd to be confirmed as the new trinity.

>>15957983
really, I expected more, they look really nice

>>15958022
Top is obviously an ankle watch

>>15957873
Honestly, for the modern stuff, all they need to do is ditch the 「GS」 on the dial. Same deal with the Prospex logo as that belongs on the crown.

>>15958015
SLGH005 is beautiful.

>>15958043
That's the thing with a privately run brand like Patek and also Rolex. They aren't thinking about the current hype and short term profits for shareholders but about the next 10 or 20 years and ensuring the company is stable. Stock markets crash, tastes change. If people stopped wanting Royal Oaks then AP would be fucked. If people stopped wanting Nautlius or steel then Patek has 8 other iconic models all available in precious metals.

>>15957920
Because it would cost 50 cents more to produce, which is just not viable in a 10k mass produced steel watch

>>15957920
I don't think you understand how optics works when it comes to magnification.

>>15956895
If a women is wearing a watch all it means is her husband is rich.

>>15958085
internal cyclops exist.

>>15958043
3rd?

>>15958097
> citation needed

>>15958097
And they don't magnify as well, they also require more clearance between the lens and the hands/dial than an external cyclops does.

>>15958092
holy fuck that's not only sexist it's just false.

>>15958092
Pretty retarded take, anon.

>>15958092
I'd be rich if I married her too.

>>15958085
do you?

>>15958112
That's fucking awful.

>>15958102
*rolls eyes*
literally google it

>>15958098
As AP are slowly making themselves an irrelevant fashion brand by relying on Royal oak sale someone will need to take their place one they go bust once people get over the royal oak.

JLC can just slot in to replace them

It reminds me when Cristal called rappers "unwelcome attention"

>>15957920
ROLEXROLEXROLEX makes date windows that are so ugly they need to be shrunk to the point of near uselessness.

Then proceed to magnify it with one of the most universally reviled features in watch making.

Then use this across 90% of their watches

Somehow they manage to be the most popular watch brand in the world

>>15958132
>JLC can just slot in to replace them

AHEM

>>15958145
l2read
VC is already part of the trinity

the 3rd one should be Grand Seiko tbqh
literally what else shook the industry as much as spring drive did?

>>15956969
tea bro. let the cha flow brother

>>15958152
Spring Drive is literally a kinetic quartz movement

i wanted to get into this hobby but im a 6.5" wristlet.

>>15958158
There are a decent number of options for you still

>>15958152
Nobody cares about spring drive, it's just a quartz watch with a weird gimmick. Piaget made one as well.

>>15958156
so?
it is the 1st movement with an infinite beat rate

if AP can be part of the trinity by churning out the same garbage year after year why cant Seiko be a part of it? because they are not european?

>>15958156
A "kinetic" watch charges a capacitor, a spring drive watch is powered exclusively by a spring.

>>15958166
The hand acceleration is adjusted by magnetic pulses at 256hz, you can easily see this if you measure the field with an oscilloscope. It's not the first watch with a truly smoothly sweeping hand - the seiko 5S21 did that earlier.

>>15958167
who cares about that distinction it has an integrated circuit and shit

>>15958161
nah. that's what i thought at first but my wrist is shaped in a way that it minimizes the lug to lug surface area.

>>15958177
>who cares about that distinction
There's a big difference between having a battery/capacitor and being powered entirely by a spring.

The circuit and chip are all solid state, they last forever.

>>15958166
its just racism even though they dont wanna say it
seiko can have innovation 100x that of a swiss brand and it wouldnt matter because. they. are. not. white

>>15958177
Spring Drive is a mechanical movement that is quartz regulated. Completely different.

>>15957122
I like the 5th wrist guys from melbourne

>>15958185
So you're saying the spring drive is not a quartz watch? I just want to be clear about your claim.

member when seiko btfo'd the mountain jews that they decided to stop the competition?

I'm drunk what's the cheapest sub200$ submariner homage watch i can get

>>15958158
You're fine up to 40mm, 42mm if you're looking at aviators. Ignore the autistic shitlords in this general.

>>15958198
>I'm drunk
You're so cool.
>Best sub homage
Probably an Orient diver at that price point.

Why not put the cyclops directly on the dial?

>>15957934
Are you familiar with using proxy bidding services to look for vintage watches of Yahoo Japan auctions? You can often find better deals on Japanese vintages pieces there than elsewhere.

>>15958092
Damn, you must hang around some shitty people.

>>15958183
I don't even think it's racism, it's more people who can't think for themselves and just parrot the Swiss dominance meme because they think their wrist trinket will somehow earn them the respect no one will give them otherwise. Swiss watches are a racket for feeble-minded idiots with more money than braincells.

>>15958192
It's a hybrid. It's neither a quartz watch or a mechanical. I guess if you went by number of components involved the movement is more mechanical than otherwise but you can't say it is only one or the other.,

>>15957457
DJ all the way. Something about this combo in 36 that looks timeless.

>>15958043
If a new trinity is going to be based on quality and not geography then ALS obviously belongs. If restricting to Switzerland I'd say JLC is certainly more deserving of inclusion than AP.

>>15958210
>Swiss watches are a racket for feeble-minded idiots with more money than braincells.
So is any watch above a few hundred bucks, yet you still have or want them, just ones from your retarded hipster brands instead of established ones.

>>15958213
So just to make sure I understand, how do you define "quartz watch"?

>>15958198
>cheapest
there are sub homages as cheap as $12 on aliX

>>15958220
Nice assumption(s), dipshit.

Looking exclusively at watches themselves, A. Lange & Söhne should replace AP in the big 3. However people take the heritage meme very seriously, and Lange has an extremely shaky history (along with being German). JLC would probably be a better fit overall since at least they’re Swiss and have been making parts and movements for Vacheron, Patek, and AP for years anyhow. Hell, JLC provided the ultra thin movements for the first Royal Oak, Overseas, AND Nautilus, then sold the rights to the design to AP in the 2000s. This is the movement that still goes into the AP15202, the jumbo extra thin, the most desirable watch they make.

>>15958220
I would never spend more than a high end G-shock

>>15958205
Why not just make the date window larger? At least then the hands don't also get magnified and you can read the date at all angles rather than just straight on.

stop arguing and post watches

>>15958203
>Probably an Orient diver at that price point
Retard
>>15958198
https://aliexpress.com/item/4000623751851.html
See also
https://www.heimdallrr.com/collections/heimdallr-submariner/products/heimdallr-mens-automatic-mens-diver-watch

>>15958224
literally why does nationality even matter you retard
it should be purely a question of merit

>>15958224
The Holy Trinity is only reserved for Swiss brands. You can't put ALS in there.

>>15958215
Based. I prefer the white or blue dial over it though.

>>15958152
>Grand Seiko
No. GS is not a haute horlogerie watchmaker. The few haute tier models they *do* have are actually made by the Credor Micro-Artist Studio, not by GS themselves.

That said, spring drive is really neat in the way that uses the same electrical energy generated by the tri-synchro regulator to magnetically brake that same regulator into that perfectly smooth, essentially frictionless glide.

It's up!
https://m.merkurwatch.com/MERKUR-First-Colabs-product-Flieger-watch-with-Super-luminova-Vintage-Pilot-Big-Eye-Chronograph-Mechanical-p1553668.html

>>15958232
retard, l2read
those are not the cheapest
>>15958237
>huur durr only da swiss
says fucking who?
for most of history the swiss were literally mostly making bottom barrel shitters, even until the 80s, which is why they got wrecked so hard by quartz

>>15958229
A window can only be as big as the date wheel on the movement allows. Movement diameters are much smaller than the cases, so there is little room to increase the size of the date wheel without also increasing the case size to accommodate it.

>>15958224
I assume you are talking about current watches. Talking about the holy trinity of watches is more about contribution.

Arguably it should be: JLC / Breguet fill in next. Lange will agree have better watches in production.

>>15958241
but AP making lots of ugly royal oaks for ghetto gangsters is?

posted this watch yesterday and one anon asked for pics without flash. does anyone know what brand this is? on the back is an underlined H with stainless steel back in a half circle above it. under the H it says 28.0907 on the first row and 65.125.51 on the second row. inside is a miyota quartz movement without any numbers on it, it only says no (0) diamonds, japan movement. what watch do i have?

>>15958248
Because that is the definition of the holy trinity. You can talk about the top 3 brands that aren't independents but that's a different discussion.

>>15958209
>>15958106
>>15958108
Find me one IG thott wearing an actual watch that they bought for themselves.

Go ahead. I'm waiting.

>>15958254

>Patek literally stopped making the Nautilus because they don't want to become a one-watch brand like AP.

Is this based or fucking retarded?

>>15958261
Absolutely based.

>>15958254
and last one

>>15958250
Nice Explorer + Sub retarded baby.

>>15958156
>Spring Drive is literally a kinetic quartz movement
Not at all, actually. Spring drive shares virtually nothing in common with a kinetic quartz movement besides having a quartz crystal.

>>15958164
Nobody cares *because* it was Seiko. If a Swiss brand had used the technology first it would have been shilled endlessly as luxurious and innovative. It's the same reason everybody suddenly stopped caring about Observatory chronometry trials as soon as Seiko started BTFO'ing the Swiss at them.

>>15958261
Totally based.

Thought it was only one specific Nautilus model to be fair, albeit by far the most in demand.

>>15958253
AP is trash, but their replacement in a trinity of haute watchmakers should *be* a haute watchmaker like JLC (if based on history and Swissness) or ALS (if based on quality of watches being made today).

>>15958261
It is a century's old business with a history unlike anything else. Why destroy it for short-term gains.

>>15958254
>>15958259
>>15958265
Approximate year of manufacture? Where did you get it and how? Post some info even if you found it on the street.

>>15958270
ASULAB's HPM movement was developed well, well before seiko released the sbwa models - it predates even seiko's internal spring drive development from what we know. Nobody cared.

>>15958261
Based.

Vacheron kinda does the same btw, the discontinued the brown dial Overseas and the ultrathin Overseas which were both big sellers.

>>15958257
Bella Thorne

>>15958261
Based. It’s decisions like this that ensure Patek stays the king. It’s also why family ownership and careful stewardship of the brand is so important. Stern learned from the Audemars’ family mistakes with the Royal Oak.

>>15958283
>>15958277
>>15958272
>high-end brands stop selling a watch the moment black people buy it.

Should be illegal to be honest.

>>15958259
>>15958278
i have no idea what year it could be, i bought it last week second handed. it came with 9 other watches i bought for 15 euro. this one got my attention because it was the only one with a miyota and a brand icon on the back.

>>15958254
>>15958259
>>15958265
never seen the brand before but its a fashion watch.

they probably meant to say 0 jewels with "0 diamonds". In china they use the word ZUAN (钻) to mean jewels. A direct translation of 钻 is diamond.

>>15958250
I understand that, and I also understand that Rolex has zero reason for innovating any of its movements to enable a larger date window and would rather just have a fuck ugly wart on the crystal instead.

>people hate the rolex cyclops

Retards without taste, I see.

>>15958302
It’s part of the brand identity at this point, like Omega’s helium valve on the Seamasters.

>>15958281
ASULAB never made any serious effort to develop their idea into a product that could actually be brought to market, so I don't think it has any bearing on how the market (and marketing) would have treated the idea if a Swiss brand actually HAD developed the idea into something that could be put on sale.

>>15958298
yeah i already geussed it wasnt a big money watch, just wondered what origin it could have.

do you think the miyota movement is china made? miyo was japanese last time i checked

>Russians making a watch out of Submarine pig iron.

Are Russians fucking retarded?

If they can further miniaturize the spring drive it’ll be fuckin incredible. They need an affordable manual winding SD too in the 4-6k range.

Only $350k and this exquisite piece could be yours in a few years of waiting.

>>15958318
Every Miyota movement is made in Japan except their lowest of the low-end Quartz one (I forget the caliber).

>>15958308
>taste
>buying rolex

>>15958327
or i could get a fake for a few hundo

>>15958327
If I had that kind of fuck you money I’d probably just get a sailboat and hire a crew to go around the world instead.

>>15958302
Big date complications, especially the two wheel ones, look like shit.

>>15958350
People who buy RMs do not have that kind of imagination.

>>15958351
Ahem

>>15958356
>Credor

what is the POINT of this brand anyways?

>>15958356
Case in point, im not sure which is worse, the two window designs or the ones that just have one big window and show the gap between the two wheels.

>>15958362
They make watches that old boomer japs like because they look the same as they did in the 80s

>>15958362
Owning a Grand Seiko without people thinking it’s a Seiko. Although Credor isn’t exactly a known name in the west.

>>15958362
Credor exists to make luxury watches and true haute horlogerie watches with a design language influenced by classical Swiss watchmaking, and mostly sells to Japanese customers.

There is basically zero stylistic and target market overlap between GS and Credor so that's why Seiko has both as subdivisions.

>>15958362
People are ashamed to own a Seiko in Japan, so Japs by Credor.

(I'm not joking.)

>>15958362
Credor > Grand Seiko > Seiko

Though there is a lot of overlap on the top end GS pieces these days with Credor and the micro artists studio output.

>>15958232
what's wrong with orient divers

>>15958394
They aren't
>the cheapest submariner homage
By any strech of the imagination

does anyone have the spurdo "bulova" picture? where he is a cop and says bulova and the other spurdo says fug

>>15958261
good riddance

>>15958320
Modern Raketa are smoking crack. I am a huge fan of their vintage pieces, but they are absolutely batshit asking upwards of 1k for what are essentially just upgraded Russian shitters. They should be aiming for the $100 - $500 market at the absolute max.

>>15958349
>>15958350
>>15958352
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001037157328.html

>>15958398

>>15958394
the strength of orient is not in their (thankfully few) tame designs but their fully orient ones
its such an underappreciated brand
>>15958405
i dont get why they dont just remake the old classics
nobody wants a new Big Zero or the new (ugly) corpenicus
just make it how it was
cant they be like vostok??

>People in Japan are ashamed to own Seiko
>There are people who will unironically believe this
They're thought of the same way as a Toyota vehicle in Japan.
>inb4 ignorant shitposters try to @ me

>>15958420
>They're thought of the same way as a Toyota vehicle in Japan.
i.e. something you're ashamed to drive and aren't considered successful if you still have?

>>15958409
thanks anon you're the best

>>15958430
No. Something that is functional, reserved and good return on investment. Weebs are delusional.

>>15956858
>Buy a Rolex
It is shit and /wt/ bullies me

>Buy Grand Seiko
It is shit and /wt/ bullies me

>>15958459
Almost like we aren't a hivemind

>>15957734
NOICE

>>15958459
If you can afford either you don't belong on /wt/ and if you care what /wt/ thinks you're a fucking idiot.

>>15958459
Almost like your taste is shit

>>15958469
There are plenty of wt regulars that can afford nice watches

>>15958492
expensive =/= nice

>>15958257
If IG thots are what you think of when you think about women I don't know what to tell you.

>>15958509
all women are whores

>>15958388
based boobaposter

>>15958492
Who?! There's explorer shitposter and that's all I've seen in months.

>>15958511
Spoken like a miserable shut-in virgin. Plenty of good women out there, hard to meet them if you're not a good man.

>>15958459
>buy what you like
>it's shit
>buy what /wt/ recommends
>you fell for the meme and it's still shit
>buy russian watch
>it's commie shit
>buy Jap watch
>it's overhyped shit
>buy chink watch
>it's cheap shit
>buy Swiss watch
>it's overpriced shit
>buy vintage watch
>it's old shit
>buy microbrand watch
>it's meme shit
>buy seiko
>poorfag
>buy tag
>reddit faggot, it's mall shit
>buy tudor
>poor man's Rolex, loser
>buy omega
>what a shitter, couldn't afford a Rolex, loser?
>buy rolex
>it's fake you faggot snob

>>15958544
Have you ever noticed how your shit is stuff, and other people's stuff is shit?

>>15958544
This is why you just do your own due diligence to find watches that are well made and not too overpriced. That way you'll know yourself if you have a good watch.

>>15956858
You cunts are a bunch of sour grapes

>>15958544
buy what you want

>>15958561
>>This is why you just do your own due diligence to find watches that are well made and not too overpriced.
Can you name 3 examples?

>>15958563
Explain

>>15958566
I'm not doing your homework for you, that's the entire point anon. You should figure this out yourself.

>>15958556

>>15958571
So no, gotcha.

>>15958573
You're missing the point. You should do it yourself because then you set your own arbitrary lines for what counts as "well made enough" and what counts as "not too overpriced". To some that's an a lange & sohne, to others it's some orient.

Am I seeing this right?

The Overseas sells for more second-hand than retail?
(the white dial 19.5k one has marks on the bezel)

>>15958576
It's fine dude it was obvious you don't have any examples from the start, you're just doing the wishy washy new age hippie le go with the flow watts bullshit.

>>15958599
I literally gave you two examples right there you illiterate. Do your own fucking research and come to your own conclusions instead of begging for handouts like a child.

>>15958594
> The Overseas sells for more second-hand than retail?
The blue one does especially since there is a recent rumour that its soon to be boutique only. But it's not exactly AP or PP levels of over list, it's barely 10% if that.

>>15958609
There's one black dial in there, but I checked a few days ago and there were a number of black-dial ones in there too, all asking a few k over list.
Just the fact that it holds up well in price is great.

>>15958594
I literally bought a blue overseas by calling the boutique in New York and they FedEx'd it to me after I wired them the money.

Why the FUCK would anyone buy that watch ABOVE MSRP on Chrono-scam-your-shit-24?

>>15958631
Yeah, you can't do that anymore.
The Overseas had a rough start (2016 was a notoriously dark year for the watch industry), but they've gained a ton of traction since.

>>15958631
>calling a store

What if I'm too afraid to talk to anyone?

That's actually I PREFER Chrono24 because I don't need to talk to a sales clerk.

>>15958639
Not that much traction. It is only because every other more popular high end sports watch are all pretty much unavailable. If that were not true the Overseas would be selling for 25% below MSRP just like all their other models.

>>15958568
Being negative for negative sake. There was implications of the saying meaning being negative because you can't have whatever they have (watch, car, jobs, etc.) But contemporary is it kinda just being negative

>>15958605
>le i was just pretending to be retarded
Dude you literally said Orient is the same value as Lange, can't you go troll in a sneakers thread or something.

>>15958653
Why are you trying to rationalize this?

>>15958658
I think they can both hold immense subjective value depending on where you are in your life. Wearing an Orient in high school is great, won’t get you beat up and your expensive possession stolen, the Lange will be great after you’ve had your first “equity event” or sold your startup or whatever. They’re both solid watches.

stop worshipping expensive luxury goods

>>15958673
>stop enjoying nice things

>>15958668
>>I think they can both hold immense subjective value depending on where you are in your life.
Yeah and a sharp stick can hold an immense subjective value to a caveman, stick it in your ass and fuck off.

>>15958673
Stop being an incel and have sex.

Can you give some suggestions for nice/good square automatic watches that are not $10k?

>>15958668
Stop feeding one of the resident trolls (You)s.

>>15958702
Fuck off I’ve got work to do.

Why are small watches more expensive? All the cool looking Chronos from Seiko are huge and the few nice non-Chronos in smaller size like SARB are expensive.

>>15958708
Nomos Tetra.

>>15958544
This is why you shouldn't buy things based on how many kudos you expect that they will get you. Just buy the watches that interest you so long as they have reasonable price to quality ratios and you're genuinely passionate about them for whatever reason. If you do that, other people's subjective opinions about your watches won't bother you, especially the opinions of people who only participate on these threads to spread negativity.

>>15958708
Historiques 1921.

>>15958715
Take a look at vintage King Seiko, Lord Matic, Lord Marvel, Grand Quartz, Silverwave, they’re nicely sized and really great watches.

>>15958729
My favorite watch from VC but the price tag is fairly outrageous.

>>15958738
The movement is hand finished.

>>15958715
All new watches are big, so the only new small watches are boutique products with low volumes and usually more expensive.

>>15958725
>ust buy the watches that interest you so long as they have reasonable price to quality ratios and you're genuinely passionate about them for whatever reason
>hurrdurr Orient is for highschoolers
>hurrdurr you gotta have a Lange if your a real man
All from the same troll.

>>15958738
>>15958729
>now OTHER companies are during the sideways watch shit

Stop.

>>15958658
>Dude you literally said Orient is the same value as Lange
No I literally didn't. Your reading comprehension is rather poor.

I would like to pull the trigger with this one. But I won’t :’/

>>15958749
When are they going to put this pathetic brand out of its misery?

>>15958762
I don’t love it. Kind of generic. A Seiko Spork has more personality. The dogpile of brands trying to copy the Nautilus (decades after the fact) is so lame.

>>15958731
It seems like most of those aren't available here in EU. I'm thinking of just going with a SNK789, even though I wouldn't mind paying 2-3 times that. But there really seem to be no options.

>>15958749
what the fuck does the dial at the top do?

>>15958798
30-minute chrono register.

>>15957156
ID?

>>15958749
The biggest crime here is the date window cutting the running seconds subdial.

>>15958631
It's recently been hyped

>>15958792
What would you suggest beside the nautilus

>>15958825
GP Laureato is the connoisseurs choice. The even smarter choice is to avoid all the overpriced steel bullshit RO knockoffs.

>>15958748
I only posted the first of those three things, you are confusing me with another poster.

Is there a difference between a 15 bucks nato strap on amazon and one for 2 on aliexpress

>>15958876
Depends on if it's actually of higher quality or if it's from a seller who just buys the $2 ali strap then resells it at $15. I can only think of reading reviews or maybe some watch forum posts about which straps are actually good.

>>15958749
Fuck it just cut all the numerals

>>15958825
>GP Laureato
VC Overseas, Oysterquartz, AP RO Quartz (the square one to be different and kewl and not spend $40k), FP Journe Octa Sport... there's a ton of cool sport watches, find your favorite.

New thread, check em
>>15959000
>>15959000
>>15959000

>>15957160
In my experience? The one man who owned rolex and managed not to be a complete asshat or autist of some sort was a grizzled russian mafia higher-up from Serpuhov. He also gave zero fucks about watches and lost his sub after a year or so.

>>15958706
stop virtue signaling and go back to r*ddit

>>15958294
Stupid nigger

>>15959269
gross

>>15958808
Nomos