/fa/ - Fashion

>>15951878
theres already a thread up
but that OP is retarded and didn't link

i want a dress watch with a yellow solid gold case and a moon phase and but i can never find one that i like

>>15951892
He also didn't use /wt/, which is why I didn't see it.

>>15951904
JLC

>>15951911
>>15951892
>rolexfag is also the one who cant make a thread properly
checks out

Ever wanted to play chess on your dial?

>>15951904
Unfortunately, fren, everyone is churning out rose gold, which I consider goddam ugly.
Have a try here:
https://www.chrono24.de/search/index.htm?caseMaterials=3&currencyId=EUR&dosearch=true&facets=functions&facets=movementType&functions=1020&gender=1401&maxAgeInDays=0&pageSize=60&priceFrom=40&redirectToSearchIndex=true&resultview=block&sortorder=0

>>15951937
>seiko
>grand seiko
>grand seiko
>grand seiko
>grand seiko
>grand seiko
.
.
...

>>15951941
i've had a search like that one emailing me for a couple of years lol. and yes, i personally cannot stand rose gold.

post weird but interesting watches like this

Never seen a "Grand Seiko" anywhere else but /fa/. Don't know anyone who owns a regular Seiko, either. Serious guys don't wear pleb-tier watches. Save up and buy something nice if you can't afford it yet. A good watch is a lifetime investment, not something you replace every year.

>>15951950
>save up and give your money to the swiss kikes
total kek

>>15951945
>>15951952
>>15951956

>>15951956
>ugly and uglier

>>15951878
gej

>>15951937
fuck thats dope
>>15951942
we get it. post watch or stfu

>>15951971
>rolex puts branding on chapter ring
>wtf thats tacky as hell
>grand seiko puts its logo a million times on the dial
>fUcK tHaTs dOpE

>>15951878
Man, I wish there was a remake of the polerouter.
If I had 20K, I would launch one with a Miyota.

>>15951985
Miyota 9015, for sure.

>>15951983
>Grand Seiko
Intricate Dials
>Rolex
rugged toolwatches
And I don't have a problem with it on the Datejust, but it looks ridiculous on the Sub

>>15951948
>including a vestigial watch feature necessary for trench warfare
>wrist calendar having windows for just the day and date
They didn't even bother to do it right. Imagine having to open a cover just to see the time. This is worse than looking at your phone.

is the citizen chronomaster (not necessarily the version i posted) the best possible quartz for that money?

>>15951956
Holy cringe, it's so bad when people talk watches outside of this thread

>>15952044
No, Certina Precidrive

>>15952044
I was tossing up between one of these and a quartz grand seiko, decided on the grand seiko, but ended up going to the shop to have a browse and got a spring drive instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPb42aKOfqg

>>15951878
Alright lads, I'm making the call, this is the official watch thread, the OP of the other one didn't link it in last thread and didn't put /wt/ in the subject line

The real Chad's are lurking this thread

>>15952080
based

>>15952080
Based

what existing mechanical watch would you wear if you were in the world of Fallout? and what quartz?

>>15952095
Big dicked Chad's gang reporting in for duty

>>15952106
Mech-Vostok
Quartz-No, tuning fork watch

>>15952111
based. I bought a vintage amphibia from 1990 and its still running +5 a day having never had a service

What happened to the MUDposter?

Reminder that the Invicta ProDiver is a spacewatch, but not the "Cosmograph"

>>15952078
Looking forward to some comfy hullllo und wellcum later.

>>15951904
GP

Thoughts? Anybody got one?

>>15952080
boldr and cringe

thoughts?

>>15952199
I could dig it if the strap was black.

>>15952044
Yes

>>15952199
Its for the Ch*nese not for you

>>15952199
Peak /fa/
Would not buy it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXCUZYt8S5c

>>15952199
how much do these go for

>>15952237
500 United states dollars give or take 100 bux

>>15952199
just get a black one

>>15951948
i like it, its weird and pointless but it looks cool

I got a Casioak and while the screen is almost uselessly small it is a really cool watch.

Pic of my old Air-King Date from 5+ years ago.

>>15952308
which colourway?
yes the digital screen is really small, its not practical
but the watch looks so good

>>15952314
why do you need four fucking bead bracelets along with your watch?

>>15952314
Beads bro, not enough beads
Also that thing is beat to shit, has to be the cheapest rolex you could possibility buy. Did it even work?

>>15952315
Yellow

>>15951878
bought a Seiko Kinetic SKA791 and will equip it like pic related. The original Redditwatch seems a bit overprized

Thoughts? I'm split between all silver details and this one.

>>15952340
>powermatic 80

>>15952348
What's "drongo" supposed to mean?

Anyone seen this IRL? I like the photos but I don't trust them

>>15952357
this looks nice, i wonder if it can withstand 200m of water depth?

>>15952340
>POWERMATIC 80.111
dont

>>15952357
>bloated reissue of a classic field watch
>fauxtina and faux aged dial
>$2000
y i k e s

>>15952340
Certina is based.
Gives me Polerouter vibes.

>>15952340
>faggotmatic

>>15952367
Lol, its rated for 30m

>>15952368
Well, maybe you could explain why it's so bad and suggest a watch with a better movement.

not>>15952340 but what's wrong with powermatic 80?

Alright, I'll repost it here then.

To the anon asking about the choodah last thread, you can find them for around 1500 euroshekels. Be careful, apparently they are faked quite often, so read up before buying and ask the seller any questions you have before you buy. In the pic it has an aftermarket bracelet with solid links, if it's sold on an oyster bracelet it should have 361B hollow endlinks and 7835B folded bracelet. The reference of the watch is 74000N and comes in many dial variations.

>>15952354
Similar to cling someone a 'great galah'

>>15952375
>>15952376
powermatic has 2 variants, and the swatch group is not very forthcoming with their details

-its based on the old ETA 2824, but with beat rate reduced from 28800 to 21600 to get extra power reserve (which nobody cares about, 99.99% of people will prefer higher beat rate)
-its kinda hard to regulate, it seems like they dont really want you to open the watch up
-powermatic 80.111- 23 jewels has plastic escapement, not steel. These movements are essentially disposable. The plastic will get brittle over time and inevitably snap one day. You are essentially getting a mini system51. The escapement(pallet fork) is a critical part of an mechanical movement and will be constantly moving while the movement is in motion
-there is a newer version of the powermatic, with a proper escapement, not plastic shit. It has 25 jewels. This is the powermatic you should get if you want one

>>15952399
Looks like a very nice bird

>>15952402
Basic overview:
C07.1XX Plastic escapment
C07.6XX Stone escapement
C07.8XX Silicon hairspring, can be had as a Chronometer
It's not as easy to regulate, but still doable and has a free sprung balance wheel.

>>15952402
Thanks for the answer!

>>15952408
>stone escapement
wtf?

>>15952421
YABADABADOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Suggest a watch please

>300-600$
>Dress
>Automatic
>No desired features, really
>Leather Strap
>36-40mm

>>15952421
old term for what is more commonly referred to as rubies now. (ie precious stones)
you can still see this on russian watches. кaмeнь = stone
calling it rubies is just because of the red colour. There are watches with blue sapphire or colourless sapphire jewels. They are all the same thing (corundum)

>>15952080
The real autism's in this thread with horrible nerd geek faggot taste in wrist jewelry

>>15952449
damn that's interesting I thought you meant it was literally made of stone like some yabbadabbadoo shit

>>15952438
Seiko Cocktail Time? You got a bunch of options

Pic of my oyster perpetual date to bump the thread.
>>15952322
Read the filename :^)
>>15952324
>Beads bro, not enough beads
I used to have a picture of my entire forearm covered in beads while wearing this exact same watch but I lost it years ago. I think I posted it on /fa/ way back and it made people seethe.
>Also that thing is beat to shit, has to be the cheapest rolex you could possibility buy. Did it even work?
It worked fine, but the bracelet was pure dogshit like most of the cheaper Rolex bracelets from the time. I haven't owned it since 2016 though.

>>15952438
Get you a grand feiko s o i boi deluxe burrito supreme. They're great for chumps with tiny wrists. The company is amazing, they make watches for Naruto and Street Fighter and Tekken

>>15952438
>Suggest a watch please
>>300-600$
>>Dress
>>Automatic
>>No desired features, really
>>Leather Strap
>>36-40mm
Look through these results
https://www.jomashop.com/certina-watches.html?movement=Automatic&watchsize=35-40+mm
https://www.jomashop.com/tissot.html?movement=Automatic&watchsize=35-40+mm
https://www.jomashop.com/mido-watches.html?movement=Automatic&watchsize=35-40+mm

>>15952421
It's rubies. Translation from German, where it is called Steinankerhemmung

>>15952314
>wearing a bracelet with a watch
Do not fucking do this. Makes literally any watch look cheap.

>>15952476
That's the point, you're supposed to look like you don't give a shit about your Rolex, it's just another accessory to you. You're never going to make it nerd.

>>15952438
presage cocktails, they have these slightly smaller 38.5 ones
or an orient star classic, the same size but far more conservatively styled

Designed and manufactured completely in house in Switzerland, no chink outsourcing at all, and ridiculously good quality and amazing field aesthetics.
Victorinox are hugely under appreciated. You will struggle to find better in the under £400 market.

>>15952510
>quartz

>>15952120
I love the autistic fascination with watches going to space. A blue collar laborer puts more abuse on a watch than an astronaut. Going to space is not an impressive feat for a watch other than
>soiface: ERMERGER AN ASTRONAUT USES IT!!!1!1

>>15952455
kek
well there are rock watches. Was a thing in the 80s. Mostly shitter movements inside (not rock)
you can still find these tissots for dirt cheap on ebay, other brands did them as well

and theres some HH watch made of concrete too

>>15952476
>Makes literally any watch look cheap.
A cheap watch always looks like a cheap watch. Your overpreened toys are cheap tech.

>>15952512
Yeah fuck maintenance free watches that are more accurate and durable than mechanicals that cost 20x as much!

>>15952519
invicta also tied a bunch of balloons to some shitters and brought them to "space". Total chad shitpost move

>>15952521
b-but muh heritage and craftsmanship and details the discerning eye can perceive and the romanticism

>>15952510
>Swiss "army"

>>15952476
For some reason every rolex wearing boomer I know does this

>>15952476
>>15952520
>>15952544
Richfags signify to other richfags. It doesn't matter what the poorfag thinks looks expensive or how the poorfag would wear a luxury watch. A rolex would look awkward on him

>>15952563
the ultra rich dont even wear rolex
its like a seiko5 to them

>>15952533
I get it, I appreciate mechanicals as well, but there's not a fucking thing in the world wrong with quartz.

>>15952564
Depends on the person. I know guys worth more than most of this thread combined who think luxury watches are stupid, they tend to wear the same shit the average fag wears.

>>15952044
Pretty much. 5 spy accuracy, perpetual calendar, independently adjustable hour hand, very good external finishing. GS quartz have a bit nicer external finishing in my opinion, but the movements are only 10 spy and most still don't have independently adjustable hour hands. Swatch Group has some cheaper HAQ models like the Certina Precidrive and Longines VHP but their external finishing isn't on the same level at the Chronomaster either, so I don't think the discount is worth it.

>>15952527
That's pretty solid IRL shitposting.

>>15952438
go to chrono24 and use these as settings you will find something browsing tru

>>15952564
>the ultra rich dont even wear rolex

>>15952580
>I know guys worth more than most of this thread combined
You know people with jobs?

https://youtu.be/z6AAinF8Ca8?t=210

Identify this watch please.

>>15952632
a carl f. bucherer

>>15952630
Lol. Guys with "fuck you" levels of money. Only ones who I personally know that go all out on luxury stuff are the inheritance/trust fund dudes.

>>15952652
Alright, where do I sign up for a donation?

>>15952652
I generally agree with this. The few very very rich people I know don’t care much about watches. The people I know who DO care about watches come from wealthy families and have relatively high but nowhere near 7 figure incomes.

>>15952691
I know wealthy people who don't know shit about watches or care about them too. Like I know a guy whose whole family has been wealthy for generations, he doesn't even have to work but he does for the hell of it, and hardly anyone in his family wears a watch. He wears a Citizen and he said he might get a Rolex in the future but he doesn't know how much they cost. I've met middle class guys on the other hand who are watch fanatics and owned either multiple luxury watches or collected special edition G-Shocks.
Watches are just niche as fuck in general. You either like them or you don't and wealth has little to do with it.

£50,000. I will never get Credor. I know they are seikos version of lange or patek, but why 50k? I'd choose a lange over this monstrocitiy any day. The front of the watch looks like shit too btw.

>>15952698
Front of this 50k timepiece. Looks so underwhelming, i know its going for simple but the calatrava destroys this. I would love to see who exactly buys this shit.

>>15952706
Thr stupid crescent moon on the seconds hand ruins it.

>>15952706
no, you dont *get* it
the calatrava is just the calatrava, but the Eicii II is something else

>This is an interesting take, but I disagree. I would contend first of all that abstraction does not signify a lack of assigned meaning. The beauty of Eichi II does not lie in polyvalent interpretation but in its harmony and modulation of subtle meanings. The text is not just text on the dial; the typeface carries feeling which is complemented by the deep blue indices, by the subtle interplay of straight and curved lines on the hands, by the diffusion of light on porcelain. There is both bold elegance and restraint. Indeed, the whole watch is moonlike in its appearance, softly glowing with a platinum corona. It is possible to decode the abstraction here because it is full of intended meaning and, crucially, the moon strengthens this reading. The curve of the crescent moon is referenced in the other hands and is complemented by the typeface. A symbol of cyclical change, often conjured in waka on chilly autumn nights. The moon glides ceaselessly through the seasons, the years, ever propelled by the Spring Drive.

the dark colourway is like the inky sky, and the moon a shimmering silver crescent.
It is a simple design, but like a haiku it has depth

>>15952706
Lets be real the calatrava also looks like shit. The minute markers are a fucking joke.

>>15952706
imagine comparing a boring shitter like the calatrava to the ultimate kino that is the Eichii II

This is now a shitter thread. Post your shitter collections and make the luxury faggots and hodinkee reading faggots seethe.

>>15952721
Nobody would care about the Eicii at all if it wasn't made by muh glorious nippon hands.

>>15952706
>>15952738
Why are you even talking about haute horlogerie watches if you don't have any understanding of what goes into their external finishing and movement finishing? The Calatrava is not finished on anything like the same level as a micro-artist studio Credor and doesn't deserve to mentioned in the same breath.

Credor's micro-artist studio pieces are finished to standards more comparable to high-end independent watchmakers, and manufactured in similarly small quantities for the same reason.

>>15952510
they use the cheapest trashiest quartz in the world, i forget the name of the exact movement but its shit, and btw im not a quartz hater, nor do I expect you getting a 9F tier calibre at 400. I would like them to at least use the mid range quartz eta (only 40 bucks) but they cheaped out spectacularly and use the absolute (literally) worst eta (or ronda?) possible.

>>15952634
>carl f. bucherer
one of my grandpas favourites he had a cap from them and lost it during holidays, he cant stop talking about it

>>15952751
They are quite an underrated brand

>>15952752
>they
cringe

>>15952622

Who ever this is he just looks like someone's grandad being collected and taken for a monthly trip to the coast for an ice cream.

The least effay image possible thus whatever point your trying to make doesn't apply.

>>15952752
i never seen one in real life myself, i think his most expensive watch is an omega seamaster. I tried to find a new cap for him from time to time but they only seem to pop up in the US and it would be 100 bucks to ship them just for an ugly black cap worth 50 cents

>>15952748
Ok that might be true, maybe shouldnt compare to lange or patek. If you compare it to voutillinan or greubel forsey its still SHIT. Get the fuck out with your blatant seiko fanboyism, fucking weeb.

Based Federico putting out great content. I bet poorfags in this thread will seethe when they watch.

https://www.youtube.com/v/O_BumY_MSvo?version=3

>>15952773
If I was poor wouldn't I celebrate watch boutiques going out of business?
Although to be honest the whole AD model is very outdated so this might be a good thing in the long run.

I apologise for the potato mega crop but does anyone have an inkling as to what this watch is - it's in the Eddie Bauer climbing K2 documentary on YouTube - this is the only scene it's visible, and is no better uncropped

>>15952773
his head literally looks like a potato

>>15952773
No respect for fat cunts. Obese means null opinion.

>>15952772
Your problem is that you assume you design preferences are universal, but that's a silly way to evaluate watches. Taste is, up to a point, subjective. Micro-artist studio Credors are hand made and finished to a standard comparable to high end independents, which is why a watch like the Eichi II is priced at $50k.

Just as one example, the movement on the Eichi II features curved anglage in the same style as Dufour's, because Dufour literally taught them how to do it by hand, manually, using polishing compound on pieces of flexible wood. In case you are unaware, manually polishing anglage that way takes many times the labour of the flat type of anglage that can mostly be polished used hand held powered buffing tools.

You don't have to like the design to be able to understand why the watches are priced the way they are. Aesthetically I can't stand virtually any of F.P. Journe's designs but that doesn't stop me from recognizing the obvious quality and ingenuity with which they are made.

>Jaeger Le Coultre
How do you pronounce it, /fa/? I call it Jäger LeKultre, because f the french

>>15952622
Rolex are like g shocks for the rich

>>15952773
Nice watch but I can't look at this guy. He is so fat I can't comprehend how this is even possible. Original (modern) Ferrari California sucks btw, the later facelift is much better.
But seriously how does this guy even move himself?

>>15952719
It's blandness galore

>>15952779
>>15952786
>t. Seething poorfags

>>15952778
longines logo maybe

>>15952796
The Jaeger is “supposed” to be pronounced as “yay-ger” because it is a German name. However the Swiss watchmaking industry views French as the superior language to German so the “official” pronunciation is with a French accent.

>>15952790
My initial point had nothing to do with finishing anyway. Just design, and I understand the little japs work for years on a piece to get the blue just the right way and wooden spatulas to polish shit. What I dont understand is WHO CHOOSES to buy a credor. Its subjective, but the credor doesnt impress me enough to ever consider purchasing, and I wonder who would choose one over a Lange or Patek or god forbid if we go into independant haute, which btw - there are better Japanese watches at that price point. Much better. Better objectively. Someone clearly does buy these pieces but it confuses me who exactly.

https://youtu.be/17n2zSXPwuc
id on the watch?

>>15952118
Playing in mud

>>15952758
>the ultra rich dont wear rolex
>posts picture of ultra rich guy wearing rolex
>noooo this doesnt count

>>15952814
As far as I know, most Credors are still sold domestically, so for the most part I assume the answer would be Japanese people. Micro-artist studio watches are made in relatively tiny volumes so they don't need to sell that many of them to keep the place busy. Also, some people just like really minimal designs. I mean, people also buy $25k H. Moser & Cie watches with no dial markings at all.

Personally, I'd be more likely to want an ALS Saxonia, but to each their own.

>>15952816
vintage omega seamaster? constellation?

>>15952812
But the original dude was called Jaeger, I wouldn't want people mispronouncing my name like that.

>>15952830
warren buffet also drives a shitty cadillac, hes the exception not the norm

the ultra rich go for super flashy stuff like RM/J&co or niche independents making 20 watches a year

>>15952846
This is some poorfaggot UFC guy, its even better that you bring this prole up as an example of what the ultra rich spend their money on.

>>15952831
Yeah, I think the same about those h. moser pieces too. Real shit.

>>15952796
https://youtu.be/jQ2dG3poS1w

>>15952849
bill gates is richer than buffet and that weirdo wears a casio duro

so by your logic casio> rolex now?

>>15952846
>hes the exception not the norm

>>15952850
>they are not gaudy, diamond encrusted maximalist richard mille levels of bling so they must be shit watches
shit taste is shite

>>15952856
even elon rarely wears a watch

>>15951878
>"Suggest a watch for me."
>Your budget
100-200
>Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
Pilot or field
>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
Mechanical
>Desired features
100m wr
>Wrist size or desired watch size
34-36

>>15952864
The Escapement Time flieger from Aliexpress ($100)

>>15952877
That is 40+ mm

>>15952314
You need more beads

>>15952518
If they had only used the stone for the dial then they would be effay as fuck

>>15952864
-the Escapement Time flieger is the best value and its only $99. But its also 42mm.
-the san martin flieger is $199, doesnt have nearly as good stats as the ET watch, but its smaller at 39mm and the stats still btfo 99.999% mechanical watches at this price point. Lugs are abit long though
-the seiko snk is a $100 37mm flieger/field hybrid. However it has a mediocre entry movement, very basic WR (only 30) and mineral glass. You can however mod-upgrade it in the future
-glycine combat 6 is 36mm, comes with sapphire and 50wr. But this is also pre invicta glycine and its not produced anymore...you can try to find.
-marathon has the 34mm mechanical GPM (WW194003) . However it is above $200 and its also plastic case(fibreshell). However it has a very strong simple AF no-frills field watch look, was issued to the military afaik, and has SW200 movement inside. Longislandwatch has it at $288

>>15952931
?
the dial is stone
its one solid chunk of rock with quartz inside

>>15952773

>>15952948
I think he means if they had used stone for the dial but kept the case entirely steel. It's shit either way without any indices.

Is there anything wrong with this watch?

>>15952984
Isnt breitling using $50 ETA movements?

>>15952986
No, it's an in-house calibre.

>>15952984
The fact that its not 36mm

>>15952984
Besides being overpriced by about 400%? Not really.

breitling navitimer for wristlets?

>>15952761
So bite the fucking bullet and get it for him.
It isn't some random guy, it's your grandfather.

>>15952997
400%? How so? What other chrono with these specs is that cheap?

>>15952948
>>15952965
>I think he means if they had used stone for the dial but kept the case entirely steel
Yeah, that's what I meant. The entire thing being stone is off putting, but having a stone dial with the right metal case would look great

>>15952984
>7K
>Breitling

>>15952984
I really like the Premier with the panda dial but I can't justify the price for it

rate my picks

>>15953072
>not a field watch
>not a pilot watch
>not a dive watch

>>15952984
Yes. Breitling's have trash external finishing for the price. Their cases and bracelets are all lozenged to hell from being polished with high speed buffing wheels by trained monkees and they tend to use cheap looking flat, stamped hands without cleaning up the edges at all, their dial printing is usually cheap stenciling rather than richer looking pad printing,

For the money Breitling wants for this watch, I'd unironically take a new Moonwatch instead. The Moonwatch has a free sprung silicon balance, better external finishing, and is cheaper.

>>15952984
It's a fucking SHITTER

>>15953072
Here are my picks.

>>15953137
I like the Moonwatch but as far as I've seen the finishing on the hands sucks. Thoughts?

>>15953144
I mean, the finishing on the hands isn't great but I can't think of any chronographs in that price range with vaguely comparable movements that have significantly nicer hands, either.

>>15952984
I literally thought it was a Hamilton before this dude said Breitling - >>15953137

So yeah, get the 10 times cheaper Hamilton.

>>15953072
>Field Watch is wrong
>Dive Watch is passable
>Chrono is Fauxtina, but okay
>Pilot is god tier
>Grail I can't identify
>Dress is based and krautpilled
>Digital is shit tier, only Casio allowed
>High Comp is not really high complication, but absolutely genius
>Misc. is based beyond believe

>>15953156
>>15953072
>dive watch without a bezel
its a sports watch, dummies

>>15952984
Listen to >>15953154 or get the 40mm Sugess ST19 Chronograph. 180€, looks the same

>>15953178
Yeah but he put it in the dive watch category...

Rate and hate

Why are Rolex owners like this?

>>15953304
both those guys are assholes

>>15953304
Did they fuck after this?

>>15953304
I don't get this at all. If you are within 2k of closing the deal why immediately default to being an asshole rather than attempting to haggle a bit more? And then why do you need a Rolex when you already have 4 of them, and why are you crying over 2k when you already have 100k worth of Rolex watches?
What the shit is going on here?

>>15953317
Protip: rich people are sociopathic shitheads.

>>15953154
You must be blind, this looks like absolute dogshit in comparison.

>>15952984
I plan on getting this in the grey dial.

>>15953215
Looks pretty nice, dig the heat blued leaf hands. Has it been serviced within the past few years?

>>15953304
10-1 the seller is a nigger

>>15953304
The biggest asshole is the one who decided to try and censor every 'fuck' in that pic.

>>15953331
not him
the breitling is 20% nicer, visually
but the logo is 400% uglier, boomer ass logo
and the price is like 1000% more
so the hammy is a much better purchase

>>15953304
behaving like a child throwing a tantrum
rolex owners should be gassed

>>15951878
Im going to buy a Boldr venture to wear to work some days, so I can spice things up and not wear my G shock 5 days a week

do you rate my Tag as lumekino?

>>15953342
Thanks. I love the blue hands too. One of my favorite features next to the mirror line around the dial. The watch has not been serviced recently. I am saving up some to do restoration of the case and service in on go.

>>15952662

sexy

dropping kids off at the pool

https://www.guinand-uhren.de/watches.html

Are these any good?

>>15953366
Nice, just put it on a nicer strap than the cheap nato it cones with, the rest of the watch is too good for it.

>>15953394
why not just get a sinn like a real man?

>>15953394
Yes, they are an underappreciated brand that makes cool military and aviator style chronographs.

>>15953390
Fuck me that's nice, make sure you pay whatever it takes.

>>15953304
17k for a sub???

What is the best Speedmaster model?

The ‘57 is so good but would be perfect if it had a ceramic bezel, the “master coaxial” calibre 9900, and was slightly thinner.

>>15953390
Damn, that's pretty nice. Not often you see striping that isn't the standard geneve stripes.

>Personally like Citizen dial designs
>Eco Drive is awesome
>General build quality is really good
>Fucking huge case diameters and case thickness

Fucking why? Just give me a 39-42mm watch you fucking wankers!

>>15953437
Buy a Stiletto

>>15952814
>god forbid if we go into independant haute, which btw - there are better Japanese watches at that price point. Much better. Better objectively.
Such as?

>>15953408
I was definetly going to put it on a two piece strap, I honestly hate nato straps, the extra material and making the case so high really turns me off them. I might go a rubber strap, but I would prefer something with a relatively small buckle, since at work I pull a plastic bag made of PVA over plaster or 3d printed moulds and poor resin into them, really easy to fuck up 8 hours worth or work and $100 worth of carbon fibre by having your watch buckle put a hole in the bag

>>15953424
>>15953430
Thanks for the compliments lads. Pocket watches are getting interesting for me more and more lately.

>>15953453
You could put it on a perlon strap, those usually have a pretty thin, minimalist buckle.

would you rather have perfection? or imperfection for the sake of convenience
>inb4 maxi cases

>>15953427
For me its the new ed white. Perfect size and classical styling

>>15953468
perfection
date windows should be 6 or 12 and never a cyclops

>>15953458
I have thought about that, but since perlon is so absorbent, if a drop of rain gets on it, it soaks in straight away and then goes hard when it sets and starts to put a hole in the strap, I can do leather, nylon and rubber, think I'll buy a canvas strap and hopefully a replacement strap for a g shock square fits it, they have a nice spring bar on them that makes a change real quick

>>15953468
No date for me 100%. I never even bother setting the date on any of my watches

>>15953476
There are tons of nice looking canvas straps on aliexpress, you should also consider a "sailcloth" strap, no idea what they are made out of but it's waterproof with a canvas texture.

>>15953453
I remember seeing a rubber strap (in the halios seaforth thread on watchuseek) that didn't use a buckle at all, but a grid like pattern on each end of the strap that would interfere and essentially 'snap' it shut. Can't for the life of me remember the name though and it seems like WUS removed the feature to search within a given thread so fuck me I guess.

>>15953489
Sailcloth is typically nylon weave. The problem is they also usually have leather backing for comfort. I think rubber/silicon is king if you want a strap for your work watch that's comfortable, tough, and that you can't fuck up.

>>15953468
I have to actually see a cyclops in person, normally im 100% NO DATE but i might actually go for it on a rolex.

>>15953476
>>15953453
what sucks is that the band you are looking for is a solo loop type
but that is only available on APPLE WATCHES which are gay and homosexual

>>15953489
>>15953497
I think I'm being a pussy about the buckle, my g shock square has a relatively large buckle (probably average sized i guess) and I never really run into that many dramas

>>15953498
I think you're right fren. Pic attached is my current strap, I've got plenty of resin on it, have either washed it off before it set or picked it off later after it was set and it is still looking great

>>15953497
Here, found a pic from an aliexpress listing (unavailable now unfortunately). Just has a generic as fuck title so I don't know what you'd have to search to be able to find this specific design.

>>15953499
its quite apparent and bad in my opinion it almost takes up the one half of the dial but these were 90s models so the dials were smaller.

>>15953470
I like the look of the Ed White but I don't love the ancient movement

>>15953526
https://www.amazon.com/Lomet-Release-Compatible-Vivoactive-Replacement/dp/B08HCXCCZM/ref=sr_1_22?dchild=1&keywords=lomet+watch+strap&qid=1613255979&s=apparel&sr=1-22

>>15952512
SUPERIOR

>>15953367
I rate your tag as fag

>>15953392
based pooper

>>15953367
>that bezel
What the fuck

>>15953543
I think the original is by a swiss company named NOOMOON,

>>15953602
Yep, that's the one. Thanks anon.

>>15952892
It's a flieger, it's ok for it to be big

Fuck this board is full of retards.

One retard says the ultra rich don't wear Rolex. Someone responds with Warren Buffett wearing a Rolex and the retard says it doesn't count because Buffett doesn't look rich. He then posts a picture of Conor Mcgregor wearing a Jacob and Co watch. This is despite Buffett actually being ultra rich and Mcgregor being worth a small fraction of Buffet. It's also despite the fact that McGregor owns several Rolexes.

Elon Musk wears a fucking Omega Aqua Terra, Trump wears several Rolexes, Larry Page wears a submariner. Just shut the fuck up.

>>15953653
the ultra rich wear rolex watches but they aren't the end-all for them while for dumb people they are

>>15953427
Modern: New Ed White. The movement architecture, finishing, and serious effort put into adjusting and assembling the 321 re-issue movements combined with the head and shoulders superior external finishing make it legitimately competitive against entry level haute watchmaker chronos (e.g. JLC Master chronograph).

Vintage: 376.0822 Cal. 1045/Lemania 5100 in the moonwatch case aka "The Holy Grail". I am a big an of the lemania 5100 movement and the moonwatch cased version is the best and rarest L5100 Speedmaster.

>>15953653
Source on Musk aqua terra?

What do we think of the TV Speedmaster?

>>15953677
Honestly debating being a fag and getting this sneedy, head over heels for it right now

>>15953589
it's got the toughness of a Toyo Tire

>>15953427
>no jumping minutes
don't tell me this is a modular movement

>>15953677
extremely dated but I really like this. how much you looking at

>>15953653
What do you expect? This is a board that has a Seiko Presage as their grail watch as its too expensive for them usually.

>>15953317
Rich people are rich because they are stingy.

>>15953698
Current bid is sitting at over 1 grand, got 5 days left. Isn't this one, just a picture I pulled from the web. It's definitely a little rough, but I dig the aesthetic so I'm trying to find out about its service history.

>>15953714
I meant to say it wasn't the one I posted first, it's actually this one I posted now. Forgive the 'phrenia, it's getting a little late in Yurop

>>15953714
Dude if you have so much money that you're paying thousands for fucking junk watches and you have such a shitty personality that you can't even buy friends to tell them about this bullshit instead of us, just shout it into your toilet bowl, literally no one here gives a shit about retards with too much money and too little brains.

>>15953730
calm down bro

>>15953653
It is beyond me why anyone would remotely care what ultra rich oligarchs wear as watches. Niqqa, wtf, just wear the watches you like, I don't care in the slightest about what a retarded Irish cunt wears

>>15953730
Gomen anon-sama, I was under the impression that this thread is about the appreciation of watches and their design, but I guess I was wrong. I'll go buy a lolex now I guess

>>15953736
Might as well go live in a cave and smear yourself with shit then, if you don't aspire to be like your betters.

>>15952408
>>15952402
Thanks again! I took a look and it seems all the Powermatic 80 Silicium variant of watches uses the 25 jewels version. Still kind of amazing they use trash movements and ask the price retail.

>>15953776
Yeah all the Silicium variants are the higher end versions

>>15953156
That's THE modern grail for most watch collectors. Picrel.

>>15953862
Lol even he is wearing a yachtmaster

>>15953862
Lol even he is wearing a gmt master

>>15953154
I was on the fence about buying one of these and I'm glad I didn't. The dial is simply too big and the lugs are too long. It would really get on my nerves after a while.

>>15953882
The original one was 36mm.

>>15953874
I didn't post that pic of him by accident. It's funny that Credor is basically Japan's homage to Dufour, a guy that wears a modern Rolex. Not sure how many people are getting btfo by this pic. The Vostokfags can still be happy, I suppose.

>>15953882
I wish for the trend of sizing up remakes of vintage pieces to end to be honest. Just keep them the same size/proportions as the original.

>>15953886
Ahhhhhhhghghghh
Fucking massive reissues that ruin the proportions

>>15953892
*indistinct screaming*

>>15953892
>>15953893
https://www.guinand-uhren.de/model-361/model-361.html

>>15953886
Ugh

>>15953687
>>15953714
Cal. 1045 Speedmasters are fantastic, but the desirability of Lemania 5100 powered vintage chronographs means that they are fairly pricey these days if you want one in decent condition.

The good news is that parts availability for these movements remains very good, and as long as the one you buy is in good working order when you get it, these movements tend to be extremely reliable. The chronograph reset spring tends to weaken over time though, so expect to eventually have to replace it unless a previous buyer did it already.

Also, if you are getting it serviced by an independent watchmaker make sure they understand to not put the delrin parts into the ultrasonic cleaner or they will destroy them.

t. 176.0012 owner

>>15953891
Well, the micro-artist studio is, anyway.

Dufour doesn't seem to buy the kinds of watches he makes. He has a Rolex GMT Master and a Lange Datograph that is publicly known.

Cop or not seiko SNG15

>>15953929
Looks nice but tiny. Why is this not considered a field watch?

>>15953929

>>15953929
Don't buy any watch that you can't handwind

>>15953941
If anons took the advice doled out by /wt/ then they wouldn't own a goddamn watch at all because everything is shit

>>15953959
>If anons took the advice doled out by /wt/ then they wouldn't own a goddamn watch at all because everything is shit
This would actually be the best outcome 90% of the time

>>15953935
it's 42 mm kek

Thoughts on pic related as an aspirational tool watch collection?

>>15954019
sorry, mechanicals aren't tool watches

>>15954019
Why bother with the Explorer?

>>15951878

>>15954019
Not enough variety.

>>15954045
See file name

/fa/ and no Seiko... funny.

Any based individuals here?

>>15954084

>>15953730
Based retailcuck who buys 50 dollar seikos for 500

>>15953427
>swatch with omega written on the dial
Lol
The best Speedmaster is the CK2915

>>15953759
>aspiring to be a dirtbag convicted criminal dumb as shit Irish sportsmen

No thanks fren, I aspire to be a virtuous person, not a retard or an oligarch with a lot of disposable money. Aspiring to be like someone has nothing to do with their watch and 100% to do with the content of their character

>>15953072
skeleton cartier, eh. Could do worse. Okay if you hate money sure
>diving with a pootek
>swatch
based UG
based dufour
based lange
>dogshit
piaget is cool
>doghsit
>>15953653
>/fa/ is full of brainless goysumers who need a higher figure to guide validate their purchases
What a shock

It's up!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=tAStaJoVkak

>>15954019
Get the 36mm Explorer, ditch the rest

Is the Explorer a field watch?

>>15954153
To an extent, sure. The field watch these days is pretty obsolete

>>15954153
it's for exploring rectums

I have a Universal Polerouter as in OP with black face but with 14k yellow gold case (c. 1960 vintage). Strap is solid 18k gold.

>>15954084
you must really love the reverso, i always see this pic posted on watch thread

>>15954180
Post some pics anon.

>>15952984
No, and you can get a discount on it.

Breilting probably makes the best chronograph movement that's on the market (B01).

BUT... you buy a new 1861/1863 Speedmaster and get a huge discount, or you can buy a limited edition Grand Seiko.

Keep in mind chronographs have huge servicing costs.

All in all, buy what you like and don't let others influence you.

>>15954216
>Breilting probably makes the best chronograph movement that's on the market (B01).
Not really. Yes it's a vertical clutch, column wheel design but so is the Daytona movement and that is also free sprung with a balance bridge.

>>15954221
I'm just going by what watchmakers are saying.

The B01 has been described as a more advanced 4130. The watchmaker who developed the B01 also developed the 4130, and this caused Rolex to sue Breitling, and I believe they lost.

Regardless, kudos to Breitling.

>>15954180
Based fellow 14k micro rotor UG chad.
Show pics, is bracelet factory issued? Wouldn't expect bracelet not to match gold of the case.

>>15954216
>best chronograph movement on the market
Yeah, if every other chronograph movement except the 7750 was suddenly destroyed in 2020 and we didn't hear about it.
No silicone hairspring, modular style design, average balance wheel.
>instead of that sports chronograph, you can buy a (((limited edition))) non sports overpriced grand basedko
Now I know this is bait

>>15954249
>The B01 has been described as a more advanced 4130.
Whoever claimed that was retarded. The B01 uses a regulated balance, flat hairspring, and a balance cock. That arrangement is objectively inferior to a free sprung balance, overcool, and balance bridge as in the 4130.

They both use column wheel arrangements and vertical clutches, and there is no history of issues with the 4130's vertical clutch design, so I don't see any advantage there for the B01.

>>15953653
theres nothing cool about Rolex. Its the brand of middle management boomers.

>>15954153
>missing numerals

its a sports watch

>>15954384
Here's the ex technical leader of Vacheron Constantin talking about the B01.

>https://youtu.be/txwY-KJ6ANE?t=130

Turns out you're the retard.

>>15954406
Is this fat retard autistic? Dude starts telling him an interesting story and he cuts him off like he doesn't give a shit and wasn't even listening.

Where does a Chad got to go in order to get a nice engraved/artwork level pocket watch anymore?

>>15954433
Ebay

>>15954406
Did you actually listen and understand the details of what he said? He said the B01 is more advanced in terms of modularity. While that's useful to a watch company wanting to be able to add and remove sections of the movement to use in more watches, it doesn't have any benefits for its use as a complete unit in chronographs.

Also, that watchmaker was talking about the movements being comparable in terms of reliability, while I'm pointing out that the B01 is objectively worse in terms of accuracy and resistance to shocks.

The problem here is that you were parroting his comments stripped of their context.

>>15954503
>>15954503
>>15954503
>>15954503

>>15953427
FOIS

>>15953437
BM8180 is 37mm

>>15954019
Thats the best Seamaster