/fa/ - Fashion

Is the DateJUST too dressy for everyday wear?

>>15948933
>too dressy for everyday wear?
its boomercore, so no

>>15948933
it's faggotcore, so no

How are the bands from Rios1931? I’ve always wanted a chunky leather stitched strap like this.

>>15948955
>Genuine leather
It's shit, but you probably won't get anything materially better unless you scale the price to unreasonable amounts for what it is.

>>15948962
there are better leather for like $15

>>15948967
Are there? Nice, then. Sorry, I'm just tired of finding genuine leather straps for unreasonable prices and made a swift assumption

>>15948933
If it's 36mm, it probably is unless you have really spindly wrists.

>>15948928
Why have Hamilton come so close to the perfect field watch, but ruin it with bizzare long lugs. Looking for something tough i can daily at work that is less autism than my current g shock

>>15948994
hammy has a 34mm but its quartz only

>Looking for a beater
boldr venture? kamasu? vostok? san martin stuff? that $99 chinese flieger with crazy stats? 5kx? bertucci?
hammy khaki field is classic but the price point and lack of wr is a sticking point

>>15949013
I don't need any water resistance. Kind of want something a little nicer than a Vostok, since I'd be wearing it so often. But I have really been thinking about getting a 420 blue scuba dude

>>15949020
hmmm yea i get that
hamilton, zelos , glycine combat subs/airman, victorinox inox, citizen promaster ecodrive, seiko land tunas and prospexes..

or you can just get the sarb alpinist, it really earns its super meme status
also take a look at the zelos horizon, its a great piece at 39mm, theres field and dive variants

Anyone know a good place where I can buy a new second hand for my omega? Mine is corroded.

>>15949029
Looking at that picture the minute hand is also corroded. Full handset might be better.
I plan to sell this soon so cheaper the better.

>>15949031
>>15949029

changing the hands will actually lower the value, you know that right

>>15949033
Really? I’ve just found a few NOS genuine hands for £30 on eBay which look identical. Nobody would know.

>>15949034
they would know because the indices will look different from the brand spanking new hands

if you change everything including dial it will look too new and set off all sorts of alarm bells

dont be retarded, people who buy vintage want them "as is". If im going to buy a vintage omega im not going to want some smartalec tinkering around with it and spoiling the whole patina appeal. You are just going to waste your time and money and nobody will buy it

>>15949039
I dunno man. If I know watch enthusiasts I know they’re autistic as fuck and want everything perfect.
How the hell does gold corrode anyway?

>>15949034
>>15949039
cant he just keep the hold hands and change them out if he wants to sell them or am i brainlet

>>15949020
forester

Does anyone get the urge every so often to get rid of all your watches except for one or two?
I have been reading about the paradox of choice where people are generally happier with something they didn’t choose because of the concern that they made the wrong choice.
I’m thinking keep my BB58 and a square G shock.

>>15949053
I know the feeling anon. I've considered selling my GS and 62mas, but particularly with the later I doubt I'd ever be able to afford to buy it again.
But this 'paradox of choice' thing, you bought the bb58 and the g shock no? so.... you made the choice already?

Bambinofag from 2 days ago here, is this acceptable ? Mainly want to wear it with polos at work in the summer

>>15949043
for vintage collectors there are 2 camps

>NOS buyer
they want the watch as untouched and new as possible, preferably still unworn
>Wabi Sabi buyer
they want the watch as unaltered as possible, they are not turned off by patina, age spots, scratches, in fact its highly important that a watch is as *original* as possible

weathered crusty old watches like pic related fetch very high prices because its unaltered and untouched and "unfixed". The wabi sabi buyer loves signs of age

you should just leave it as is and let the buyer do his own thing and decide on alterations if he wants to. Trying to change the hands and attempting to pass it off as "original" will please literally nobody, plus its a really shitty thing to do

>>15949045
yes but hes going to sell it

alternatively he can change it out but also include the old hands in the sale, but its kinda a waste of time

Should arrive early next week. I'm punped

>>15949062
this dial objectively looks like anemic dogshit but I still kinda dig it.

>>15949043
>How the hell does gold corrode anyway?
its not pure gold, probably 14 or 18k, with gold alloys they can corrode

>>15949060
Looks fine. What is the concern?

>>15949064
fuck i hope it has drilled lugs. This will probably take the place of my current dress watch, which is a sinn 556.

>>15949069
its the IV with 42mm, I doubt anybody knows about dress watch rules half of the people are engineers anyway

>>15949060
slightly big but looks fine
not sure how i feel about the thinner hands on this IV version. If only they are 5%-10% thicker and longer

it'll look even better with a brown strap

>>15949062
Yea I think I'll leave it as is as I don't think the new hands will add more than the value of the new hands anyway.
It also has a non-original crown. It is a bit of a dog but it is over 50 years old.

>>15949080
thanks brown strap is already planned if I keep it. I doubt ill get thicker hands soon im already at my all time weight high 85kg/193cm I had a lot thicker arms when I was working out instead of cycling tho

Copped this beauty as a birthday gift for my GF.

>>15949092
you should consider swapping it out for the version II, its more cohesive as the watch is smaller and the hands dont look as anemic

there is also a 36mm unisex/ladies bambino if you are based enough. Perfect size. Less colourways though

its up to you, its just nitpicking austisms

>>15949098
Nice, there needs to be more watches with vertical brushed dials like that.

>>15949098
Nice. My girlfriend bought me a bayonet for my birthday that just went past

>>15948994
Citizen BM8180.

Wrist check? Wrist check.

This tacticool chink shitter for me today.

>>15948994
the simple cwc is the only way, accept no substitutes

>>15949115
was that a warning not to fuck up or something

>>15948832
>These dials are fake shit
No shit Sherlock, imagine giving a fuck. People have been redialing russian watches for forever and both of those redials are both late 80's/early 90's ones which also makes them interesting in their own right in my books. There's quite a few pictures of these dials with genuine aging on them kicking about, so they're not recent ones.

Personally, I like the pair of them, especially the space dog watch and no doubt the Anon who bought it likes it too, so who gives a shit?

>>15948928
What do you guys do with watches that were gifted you but don't wear anymore/don't like?

>>15949216
i do like the dial, only downside is that i couldnt find a strap that has stars and moons on it to theme it more, but went with this snowflake nato strap for so it more star like.

i did have a couple more watches, ones a coin dail and the other a franken watch that i did with my partner and i painted the dial. had posted it ages ago in a watch thread and my paint job wasnt greatly received but was still a fun project

>>15949223
throw them in a drawer

>>15949223
Thankfully it's never happened but I'd treat it the same as clothes I've been gifted that I didn't really like, never wear them apart from on odd occasions when I see the person who gave me the gift.
Obviously it would be a different story if someone gifted me an expensive watch that I didn't like.

>>15949223
I wear most of my watches. I have one watch I'm not a huge fan of but it was a gift from someone and that in itself makes me like it in its own way.

>>15949231
Not him, but please post pics when it arrives. Where did you get your dog watch from anyway? Ebay? How would I go about finding one? I really like it for some strange reason I can't put my finger on, it just makes me smile.

>>15949239
>Obviously it would be a different story if someone gifted me an expensive watch that I didn't like.
You'd flip it? Pawn it off someone else?

>>15949248
i got it from ebay, there isanother with the same image with belka and strelka, but smaller and framed by some black lines and its pic related,
just look for Vostok Belka and Strelka and itll come up.

>>15949257
the Pobeda ZIM one is cute too,

>>15949251
If I had zero emotional attachment to the gift I'd be highly tempted to sell it and replace it with a passable replica.

>>15949223
>watches that were gifted you
Good one

>>15949031
If you were gonna keep it I'd say do whatever, but as far as selling it leave it as is.

>>15949223
I'd probably trade/sell them for watches I would wear and like if they were worth anything. Otherwise juat throw them in the box to collect dust.

>>15948933
No, and if you want a less dressy Datejust, you can always get a smooth bezel, oyster bracelet version insteead.

>>15949379

>>15948994
If you want something a bit smaller, Hamilton makes a Khaki Pilot Pioneer that is 36mm with shorter lugs.

Guess a random fact about me

>>15949395
you're as lower-end-of-middle-class as they come

>>15949392
>mineral crystal

>>15949395
You wear glasses

>>15949395
you're a military brat

>>15949413
Hadn't noticed that, never mind that model then.

>>15949395
you are a scorpio and you have brown hair

>>15949395
you suck putin's cock on the reg

>>15949395
penis length below the average

>>15949408
I'm not a normie, I make low class income but have 300k in crypto.
>>15949414
My eyes are shit but I don't wear glasses even tho I have to.
>>15949415
No, I find dying for the ruling class laughable.
>>15949426
Nope, aries and red hair.

>>15949395
You think you're being cute with the orange and black strap combination to match the orange and black watch.

>>15949442
I am part russian but I do not care for the country or Putin but I consider the home village of my dad in siberia a last resort if boogaloo.
>>15949444
Quite the opposite, cock's thick.

Okay you can stop now that's weird I wanted to discuss my collection with fellow shitter enthusiasts

>>15949450
Ding ding ding. It looks like a fun swatch on the wrist, kinda like OP actually. Perfect watch for summer days at the lake

>>15949413
>>15949418
what's wrong with that?

>>15949459
The original ask was for a tough watch that could take a beating. Mineral crystals are too easy to scratch to be suitable for that role (with some rare special exceptions).

>>15949465
mineral is actually worst of both worlds
sapphire shatters but is very, very hard
acryllic scratches easily but is easily buffed clean and indestructible
mineral scratches but is a huge pain in the ass to buff

>>15948994
Boldr Venture
Titanium and sapphire
$300

>>15949470
what about the gorilla glass that is on my phone?

>>15949477
that is a tempered glass impregnated with silica or something

>>15949395
You're Reddit

>>15949182
>>15948994
These two should have a baby.

What are you wearing today /wt/? Always like to see what other Anon's have got on in these threads.

>>15949395
Really cool collection, anon. I do enjoy that Vario, and the Vostok looks really fun.

>>15949489

>>15948928
Why does a statistically significant number of 4chan watch enthusiasts possess hairy wrists?

>>15949489
Oks

>>15949395
You bought an edifice because you couldn’t get hold of an Oceanus

>>15949490
Thank you anon, I enjoy them a lot as well.
>>15949524
Nah I bought it because I liked it more. Although it's hard to argue against anus

>>15949489
This, have a lume shot of it too.
>>15949168

>>15949574
Lume looks surprisingly good for chinkshit. What even is that watch? Really weird looking bezel.
>>15949519
Baltics always look awesome but I've never seen one in person. With me having skeleton wrists and no money I doubt I'll ever get one but I really like the look of them. What do you make of it?
>>15949515
Really cool Vostok, I've always liked that case type but I don't think it would work on my twink wrists. I have a really nice non-frankenised Kommandirskie with the зaкaз мo cccp dial but I hardly ever wear it because the strap on it is shit. Any suggestions for a cheap but decent one for it that isn't a nato?

>>15949395
you are a bender or else you wouldnt be on /fa/

>>15949379
>smooth bezel, oyster bracelet

>people even scratching their mineral glass crystals
how does that happen?

do you all just not take care of your watches

unless you are rock climbing with a big bubble domed seiko cocktail, what is your excuse?

>ohhhh my old boomer eyes can’t read the date

>>15949612
The silliest shit, like moving a piece of furniture or stepping out of the shower. >>15949489

>>15949622
When you take off the cyclops you realize that Rolexs have misaligned date windows and the cyclops is actually just cope to cover that up.

>>15949622
i remember there was this video on youtube
real rolex vs an AAA fake
the cyclops was better aligned on the fake

>>15949064
think it'll run fast?

>>15949013
What is the name of this flieger?

>>15949612
It's literally impossible not to scratch a watch, it's very easy to knock a watch on door frames, furniture and all manner of other things regardless of how careful you are, it can happen without you even being conscious of it.
The main thing though is that my mineral crystal watches all have scratches but my sapphire crystal watches are still immaculate.

>>15949582
>Lume looks surprisingly good for chinkshit. What even is that watch? Really weird looking bezel.
It's a chink 'homage' of a Luminox Navy Seal, the lume is half good because its in a tube to look like it has tritium tubes.

>>15949622
Watches are about tradition, and the cyclops is a uniquely Rolex tradition. I like it.

>>15949662
dates are anti tradition

>>15949651
search Escapement Time on aliexpress>>15946735

>>15949395
You think that digimon is better than pokemon.

Is the Casio GWM5610 worth the premium over the DW5600?

>>15949665
Based schizo.

>>15949681
no unless you need solar or radio, or have ultra skinny wrists

>>15949518
most 4chan users are male

>>15949681
No, it's really not that hard to change a battery every 3-5 years and everything else is nearly superfluous.

More messing about

Okay paint stripped, I'm going to repaint it with a sharpie. If it doesn't turn out good will put drops of white acrylic paint into the holes and then use a sharpie over those, should come out more vibrant.

>>15949710
You should put in some actual lume in one of the pips. It always bothered me that BOCTOK makes divers with no lume pip on the bezel.

>>15949710
Does the bezel lack any kind of spring? It looks quite nice without bezel, may even keen one that way.

>>15949728
vostok bezels just slide around freely because they expect water pressure to hold them down

choose a dress watch for me? im 6" wristlet

>Seiko Presage Cocktail Ladies Red

>Vario Empire Emerald

>Orient Sun and Moon v5

>>15949728
Meranom sells smooth bezels

>>15949728
Yes there is no spring, it's clean metal

I am not gonna keep it that way because pic related is a bit extreme LOL

Does anybody know where to get a divers extension clasp in 22mm? I’m only seeing options from strapcode, but it’s going for $75. It’s not that expensive, but my inner Jew wants to save a few bucks. I was gifted an incredible diver on a solid bracelet, and it needs a good extension clasp to become perfect.

>>15949735
*budget is $500 + -

>>15949737
You can get a clean bezel for cheap. Boom, instant field watch

first for wristlets wearing the biggest cope rolex

>>15949728
others already pointed out
vostok clean bezel mod, its literally a empty bezel you pop over the thing.

>>15949756
Absolutely beautiful, where can I get them?

>>15949735
Isn't the Orient Sun and Moon really big and thick?
The cocktail time is 34mm compared to the 38 of the Vario. Usually it's better to err smaller so the 34mm might look more proportionate but at 6 inches you could just barely pull the Vario off and it's got a more "all purpose" look to it with the brushed sides and being less loud in general.
But I would not get the specific Vario in your image, because in the first gen Empires the hour hand is a bit too skeletonized and this makes it a little hard to read at a glance. The new seasonal models have a slightly thicker hour hand that works better, although the dial is not the same.

>>15949759
https://meranom.com/en/index.php?route=product/search&search=clean%20bezel&filter_name=clean%20bezel

>>15949622
>glance at watch quickly
>instantly see the date
it's hilarious how hard you idiots deride genuinely useful features

>>15949788
I only have to look at the date, maximum, 2 times a day, when you can afford to take the extra half second.

>>15949761
thanks, i hadnt thought about the skeletal hands
>Isn't the Orient Sun and Moon really big and thick?
yes, sadly they are all rather big and thick. Its a distinctive watch though, i like it. The last one (v5) is the smallest at 41.5 x 13mm

>>15949783
Thank you.

>>15949797
I have a 6.5 inch wrist and I think I could just barely pull off the Sun&Moon. It looks good but for a 6 inch wrist it'll look too large and thick. So sadly that might just be out of the running.
Look up video reviews of the Vario Empire to get a better sense of the size of the hands. Maybe the thinness of the hour hand won't matter to you but my eyes aren't that great and it did bug me. However the way light plays off the hands can make it legible enough anyway. I like the Empire because it is very distinctive, I think the execution of the numbers is absolutely perfect and the brushed sides, again, make it versatile because it's not overly flashy and by dulling down the case a bit it emphasizes the dial. Also the case itself is interesting, the lugs are done in a way that they seem like they were attached to the case or the rest of the case is rising out of them. It adds a sense of layers.

shitty sharpie just testing ideas

>>15949744
is it really 22 mm at the clasp end? that would imply a really huge bracelet.

>>15949735
Those other brands are not exciting. Get the Seiko. Only problem with it is you might need to change the strap out for something that doesn't taper as aggressively since it's a ladies watch and Seiko straps are usually crap anyway.

>>15949395
>Edifice Casioak
Based 19-y/o

>>15949652
Imagine going through life with such undeveloped motor functions.

You got your SARB after you heard they were getting discontinued, right anon? You definitely got one while they were still less than $500, right anon? You knew they were going to double in value by now, right anon? Wait what? You didn’t? You thought they’d always be cheap? You slept on the SARB? You thought you’d find a “Swiss” watch this good for that price? You wanted to save up for something better? Okay, whatever you say anon.

>>15949843
>tfw bought a SARB alpinist instead of 033 and 035
I took the chuffpill and I didn't like it

>>15949850
>SARB alpinist instead of 033 and 035
but that is the correct choice
alpinist > all
if there was ever a list of the "TOP 5 NON-HH WATCH RELEASED IN THE LAST 30 YEARS" the sarb017 alpinist would definitely be on it
both the 033 and 035 have more expensive versions in the SARY and SARX line
only the 017 is truly unreplaceable

>>15949843
Weren't those cream SARBS unobtanium even when all SARBS were 250usd and common?

>>15949857
What? If anything the smaller size of the 33 and 35 make them more unique compared to the newer versions. OG alpinist and the new prospex version are pretty much identical.

>>15949869
the new one has a hideous cyclops and gay prospex logo

>>15949869
>OG alpinist and the new prospex version are pretty much identical.

>cyclops
>changed text
>X logo
>matte green instead of brilliant sunburst
no.

>>15949857
The alpinist has an entire presage line as well. Not as good but you can still get it. >>15949850
The 017 is a great watch, don’t fret. The 033, 035, Alpinist and Cocktail Time are all great watches that continue to cast a long shadow over all sub $2000 watches, including Seiko’s own offerings. No choice is a wrong choice.

>>15949873
>matte green
The rest I was ok with but that I didn't know about. I stand corrected.

What's the best way to find sellers of sapphire crystals on AliExpress? Searching for "sapphire crystal" or anything similar just brings up thousands of useless results.

>>15949873
Don't forget the date window went from a vaguely colour matched wheel with a gilt frame to a white wheel with no frame.

>>15949843
>muh $300 shitter
Who cares?

>>15949904
>Seiko
>shitter
Pick one

Enjoying my Seiko 5 Sports. No idea where the hate is coming from.

>>15949919
its easy to hate a shitter

>>15949919
you mean the new one?
it's probably because it's a "dive watch" that can't dive, yet costs more for no real improvement other than the movement. it doesn't even offer sapphire. you get much better value out of any $300 microbrand

>>15949919
We are all rich from cryptocurrency and shorting GME and spent our earnings on luxury EDC goods and luxury watches. Seiko is a poverty brand for redditor wallstreet wannabes

>date windows on a dress watch
how uncouth

>>15949903
>went from a vaguely colour matched wheel with a gilt frame to a white wheel with no frame.

>>15949788
Still uggo

>>15949843
Sarb...

>>15949919
The value proposition went all wonky. Basically they upgraded the movement, but lost the water resist the SKX was known for. And I think they're like $200? You might as well get a microbrand with the NH35, an orient, or the next level of seiko divers up (Samurai, Sumo, Turtle) that didn't sell well.

Is the seiko sur311p1 and sarb033 the same watch? If not, is the sur311 any good? I see recommendations for the latter but not the former.

Any other good smaller watches under 300? I don't like those huge bulky diver things. I just missed a huge sale for pic related so I'm kinda upset.

>>15949978
No. The sur311p1 is a quartz that is somehow even larger, the sarb033 is 38mm unless I remembered wrong and uses a 6R15 automatic movement.

>>15949810
Man, keep posting this progress, I'm hooked to it now.
May I ask how hard were for you to change the hands?

>>15949985
Gotcha.

I just measured my wrist circumference, seems to be between 15 and 16cm or so. So I need around a 38mm, right? Any good picks at that size that look similar aesthetically to the SARB or above Panda Chronograph Seiko?

>>15949644

>>15949665
>dates are anti tradition
Ah yes, I'm sure everyone is well aware of there not being any sort of long tradition of there being a date display on the fucking DATEjust. Idiot.

>>15950025
>rolex invented watches

>>15948933

Is it the perfect one and done Rolex?

>looks great as a sport watch or dress watch (with leather band)
>shiny so people know it's expensive and a Rolex
>cyclops lens is iconic
>white gold on the shiny parts
>solid jubilee bracelet is amazing and iconic
>hour markers are simple and legible
>dial is simple and legible with nice hands and lume

It's the perfect one and done steel stunna, fuckas!!

The Seiko Tuna is based, but my wrist is too small to wear one

>>15949947
You're wasting your time on that front here, some people seem to think that a watch with lume can still be classed as dressy.

>>15950039
Get the mini one, they make a tuna that is 11.5mm thick and 42mm in diameter, one of the lowercase editions

>>15949369
ooh that one looks nice. sauce?

>>15949843
No, because I did the real big brain move and bought the SDGM003 when it was the best externally finished watch under $750 in the world, period. Seiko charges over $1k for these kinds of watches now.

>>15949978
the sur311 is a quartz
-nothing wrong with quartz and they are more reliable but many watchpeeps like watches for the mechanical aspect so most quartz watches automatically gets disregarded unless they are something special
-the 6r15 is a pretty decent mid range movement for seiko, that combined with everything else made the sarbs a great deal at their old price of ~$350
>>15950002
im a 15.2cm
your max size will be roughly 39mm with a 47mm lug to lug, plus minus. Lug to lug and case shape is more important. Some watches are big but their lugs are short so it'll still fit.
>or above Panda Chronograph Seiko? under $300
look up Dan Henry 1964 or the Sugess Panda
the 1st uses seiko mechaquartz, a quartz that ticks at 4 times a second
the 2nd uses the seagull st19, very attractive and commonly used column wheel mechanical chrono movement.

>>15949754

How is that a cope? Becuase it's not a GMT?

>>15950027
>Other watches are relevant in a discussion about the date display and cyclops being traditional on the Rolex Datejust model.

>>15950047
I yield on the SDGM Brightz, great watch and honestly looking at one now, just not sold on the size.

>>15949866
I think you mean the pink SARB, which is genuinely rare. The cream SARB is still the cheapest afaik

>>15949843
Shut your shit fiend :(

>>15950074
its not pink, its SALMON.

>>15950051
Thank you. The dan henry looks kinda cool but it's not available here.
I'm guessing there's no practical difference between the Seiko SNK789 and SNKL41J other than slight looks?

>>15950047
What's so special about that one compared to the SARX watches people liked?

>>15950079

based! What model?

>best daily chornograph coming through

>>15950080
>I'm guessing there's no practical difference between the Seiko SNK789 and SNKL41 other than slight looks?
nope, totally zero practical difference
both are 7s26 seiko5s
only difference is indices, and one uses baton the other uses dauphine hands. The alphabet behind the numerals (K or J) refers to the manufacturing (either in malaysia or """japan""")
J will have a "made in japan' text on the dial.
J variants cost ~50% more--but in actuality they are both made in malaysian factories. J ones have japanese overseers, K dont.
>>15950089
sarb037
good luck camping for one, this is one of the seiko unicorns.

>>15950085
The SDGM001/003 were available for a much cheaper price back then than the SARX models that came later, and they had beautiful sunburst cocktail style dials. I got mine for around $600 and the equivalent models today are damn near $1k without the amazing dials.

It's also worth noting that several years ago when the SDGM001/003 were still being made, many of the sub-Rolex Swiss brands had really mediocre external finishing. I went and looked at an Omega Aqua Terra 2500 several years ago to compare the external finishing to the SDGM003 and the Seiko absolutely BTFO'd the external finishing on the Omega, much less anything you'd find on a lesser Swatch Group brand at the time.

Times have changed in the industry and there are now microbrands and mid-range Swiss brands actually offering decent external finishing for the money, which makes Seiko's upper-mid range a lot less compelling at the ~$1k mark than it used to be at the $600 mark.

>>15950079
penis colored

>>15950074
I bought my 035 last year off amazon for $400. Now it's sold out there and people are trying to sell them for well over that.

>>15950136
I didn’t say cheap, I said cheapest. The 033 is $600 minimum now.

>>15949933
the cost of adding a screwdown crown would be negligible, and sapphire isnt even that expensive
its purely an economical decision. The old SKX was definitely cutting into sales of the turtles/sumo/samurais. Some analyst crunched the numbers and figured it would be more profitable to push the prospex divers than it would be to sell a ton of upgraded 5kxs
>>15949919
the Seiko 5 Sports (5kx, dresskx) are very accessible, fashion friendly aesthetically pleasing watches. They are like the kind of watch you'd buy for a guy friend who isnt that into watches. I dont think the value is *that* bad, as they have good solid bracelets which is historically very unusual for seiko. The niggles are that they are so damned close to being exceptional watches, only lacking small but crucial things like lume pip, screwdown crown, and the option of a small sized model (like the skx013). Regardless, seiko probably does sell alot of them. The departure of the skx007/skx013 left a big void leaving many to turn to Orient or the various micro/aliexpress brands.

>>15950146
the value sux
they could have at least given you sapphire
chinks can shit out a sapphire and slap it on sub $100 cadisens so don't tell me this can't be done

>>15950150
Seiko is a big company, they'd have to lay off people to compete with chinkshit on price

Serious question
Why does Seiko get a pass on copying Rolex, but Invictus which has same exact style, just another imitation as the SKX and 5 series
Oh but it's shit?

Thoughts, maybe someone already has one ? Definitly like its look more than the green Orient Kamasu

>>15950169
they released a less capable watch for more money in order to actually give consumers less value so that they are forced to buy more expensive models to get superior performance.
you are defending this and saying that in exchange for increasing the price whilst simultaneously lowering value, seiko should not even provide at least sapphire on the watch, when microbrands that actually have to deal with startup costs and shit can do it on sub-$300 watches easy
how can you suck so much cum?

>>15950218
lmao should have skimmed tru first
>>15949919
>>15950146

>>15950201
Seiko is Japanese so they get a pass from the weebs and redditors. The real issue with Seiko is not that they are ripping off Rolex, it’s that they keep raising their prices and releasing worse products.

>>15950201
seiko is a true homage, the design is inspired by, but not a copy
invicta is straight up copying everything, even down to the mercedes hands

>>15948928
Once and for all: What is the cutoff between shitter and timepiece worthy of investment? Is there a specific price (and what is the number?), a certain characteristic, or does it just need to be from a particular brand?

>>15950254
an investment is something that produces revenue either by production or appreciation.

>>15950079
There are better SARBs still.

>>15950254
Shitter = thing I don't like

>>15950254
A non-shitter is supposed to hold or increase in value. So almost everything is a shitter and even many very high quality watches could be called shitters just because they hold less value than worse, but more desired, watches.
Really it's a meaningless term.

>>15950254
the term originated from ArchieLuxury where he used it as a form of derision. But /wt/ have reclaimed it as a beaming approval of kino-esque non pretentious watches. Shitters are the best watches.

>>15950029
Yes it is. Does everything well. I wish they did a yellow gold (not two tone) version though.

>>15950254
Hard to give a number but just because a watch is cheap doesn't mean it's a shitter for me.
a beater is a cheap watch
a shitter is a watch that's too expensive for what it is that can also be cheap (but doesn't have to be, see pic related)

Thoughts on this holographic watch?

>>15949395

>>15950310
Looks like something you'd win out of a claw machine in a dive bar

>>15950340
So should I buy it?

>>15950344
Absolutely

>>15949623
that looks dope. how much did that set you back

>>15949623
Tudor 1016, very nice.

>>15950254
I'm an autist who doesn't give a shit about the status flexing aspect of watch buying these days, so for me shitters are watches that are significantly overpriced relative to their level of quality and get away with it based on marketing the watches heavily to unsophisticated watch buyers.

Probably the clearest example of what I'm talking about was when Panerai were pleb-catching people with $5k+ Unitas powered shitters essentially indistinguishable externally and internally from $250 chink reps.

>>15950224
Seiko aren't really raising prices. They are consolidating grey market dealers massively and therefore the watches are being sold nearer to MSRP than before
>>15950218
this only has 100 metres water resistance, therefore isn't an actual diver.
no screw down crown either
but if you don't care about that go for it.

>>15950361
Do you guys actually go diving, and need a watch for it?

>>15950079
>>15950269
>not knowing the true unobtanium SARB
SARB027/029 says hello.

>>15950366
of course not anon
but to some ppl it's important to some ppl that the watch has minimum diver specs if it looks like one.

>>15950366
I buy watches with diver specs because I'm a retard and the robust water resistant watches are harder to break.

>>15950344
Only if you really like it and will enjoy it.

>>15949989
Pretty hard honestly, the hour hand had to be widened slightly, not very happy with them (from raffles times)

>>15950369
Fuck that's hot

>>15950361
i mean how many people in the world actually dive below 100 meters and dont even check their watch before. Diving depth is the biggest autism argument anything below 30 meters is overkill

>>15950381
uhm bro your Moonwatch ??

>>15950394
37mm, box dome mineral crystal to mimic old acrylic.

>>15950254
Don’t think of watches in terms of investment if you want to maintain some degree of sanity. They’re similar in cars in that 99.99% of them immediately take a massive value hit as soon as you buy them. This isn’t a bad thing - if you’re savvy, you can get pieces you wouldn’t be able to afford normally from the second hand market. Watches have an advantage in that they don’t record wrist time in the way cars have odometers, meaning you can buy a used JLC for 30% off retail, wear it for a year, and sell it for what you paid or damn near close to it.

In response to your actual question, Nomos/Tudor is generally accepted to be where you are out of the shitter bracket and getting into luxury. Brands like Sinn are a special case in that they’re typically cheaper, but I wouldn’t call them shitters or luxury.
>>15950361
>Seiko aren't really raising prices. They are consolidating grey market dealers massively and therefore the watches are being sold nearer to MSRP than before
So Seiko aren’t really raising their prices, they’re just ensuring their watches are sold at higher prices. I don’t want to get into an absurdist semantic argument but the end result is the same for the customer, which is they’re paying higher prices.

The Seiko situation doesn’t impact me at all, I have some shitter Seiko 5 I bought for pennies years ago and that’s it. I just find it funny that Seiko, the brand known for being one of the only watch brands that offers decent value for money, is seeing their prices both new and used seemingly spiral out of control.

UOH IM GONNA COOME
Seiko Alpinist with steel band

>>15950395
a watch rated to 100 metres can only go down to like 30.
a watch rated to 30 metres can only survive a wash under the tap
https://www.thrillist.com/gear/what-your-watch-water-resistance-numbers-mean

>>15950421
100 meters is fine for most people anyway. I think the reason people hate it so much on the SKX is that it's the successor to an actually ISO certified diver, that now cannot dive, and doesn't even have a lume pip

>>15950218
if you like it, get it
all these talk of "100 vs 200 water resistance" and "lume on the bezel" literally doesnt matter 99.9999% of the time

a watch can have the bestest stats in the world, but if you dont like it what's the point

seeking digital
will cop pic related unless persuaded

>>15950441
Buy it, it's cool

>>15950441
is it for work or for play?
anyway, that gshock is already out of production. its a nice choice and the red is very striking

>>15950415
Seiko was the last large watchmaker that used to still offer good values up and down their range (mostly), but the downside this came with is that outside of the global online watch enthusiast community (and actually even among many of them) this ended up holding back brand perceptions of Seiko in the upper mid-range and Grand Seiko level.

What Seiko is doing today is making their entry level and lower mid-range models a worse value in order to try and increase their brand's prestige and perceived value higher up the product stack in their upper mid-range and upper range models, the same way that Swatch Group kneecaps Tissot and Longines to put more of a shine on Omega. It's quite annoying for people who appreciated the value that Seiko brought throughout their product stack, but the modern post-quartz revolution, marketing driven approach to selling watches has now firmly taken root at Seiko.

>>15950449
daily wear
watches can frame your fits a uniform

>>15950441
i was seriously considering this but i went for a casioak instead.

>>15950464
people who want value can go for Orient. I don't know why seiko fans are so adamant that it *has* to say seiko on the dial

>>15950464
it's this pretty much, it's left other brands to try and fill the void
that said i'm not a fan of the orients i've seen and their QA/QC leaves something to be desired from what people have told me

>>15950513
I just prefer Seiko designs to Orient.
Orient is excellent value and I'd recommend it if people like how they look.

>>15950428
the real successor to the SKX is the mini """turtle"""

>>15950524
>their QA/QC leaves something to be desired from what people have told me
>saying that when seiko still has misaligned chapter rings and bezels on their $1000 watches in 2021

Picked up a second hand "Victorinox Original" this week as my new beater - took it up the Welsh Hills this evening. Fucking freezing up there.

>>15950530
>mini turtle
>$450
>successor to the skx
kek

no, its the $200 kamasu

>>15950531
you're going to be able to return the seiko
value heads going for orients are getting them from 3rd parties where sales are final
>>15950538
well that's what we mean by them trying to trend upwards as a brand

>>15949518
Are you a woman or a twink?

>>15950549
Wouldn’t you like to know, daddy

>what kind of crown guard do you want?
yes

hello /wt/. how are we doing today?

>>15949168
Just copped pic related, i thought it looked tiny but it seems reasonable on my wrist. What's effay's opinion on the brown strap?

>>15950595
>>15949810
>>15949756
>>15949737
>>15949710
>>15949693
>>15949519
>>15949515
>>15949395
>>15949100

Fucking Vietnam Shitters!

>>15950614
>looked tiny
no, thats the correct proper size
brown strap is great

>>15950603
I'm pretty good, kinda wanna die too, so conflicting emotions really.

>>15950614
is that the 35mm or 38mm?

>>15950641
>rotor
>self winding
lol, of all the things you could rip off..

>>15950667
35mm. I opened the box and thought they fucked up and sent the 33mm ladies version, but it definitely wears bigger than it looks in the hand. Or it could be that it's my first watch under 40mm and I just didn't have a point of reference.

>Sir, Seiko, Citizen and Casio all have slide rule chronographs! as a fellow japanese brand we must also have one!
>Sir, what should we do to differentiate our offering?
>BULLHEAD ORIENTATION
>hai!
>INTERNAL BEZEL
>hai!
>CRAB LUGS
>hai!
>NUMERALS. AND CUT ONE OF THEM.
>HAAAI!

>>15950675
It’s not just you, I had the exact same thought when I tried one on a few years ago. It looks tiny in the hand but much larger on the wrist since it’s all dial with the long lugs.

>>15950674
It's an homage!

>>15950687

>>15950675
bauhaus watches look their best around this size. Any bigger it becomes an ungainly saucer perched on your wrist. Yours look great and very proportional, dw about it

>>15950687
That date window is amazing, they could've placed it slightly further towards the 5 and colour matched the date wheel with upright numerals but no, they must said fuck it.

>>15950687
this watch is almost cool but the date window is one of the worst I've ever seen

>>15948928
I think I'm going to get a marathon field watch. How durable would the mechanical watch be? Should I go the quartz if I anticipate being pretty rough with it at work?

>>15950752
They're meant to be thrown away every mission dude.

>>15950687
You know... this shit would actually be epic as fuck if not for the numerals and the retarded date window.

>>15950752
If you are afraid of your watch getting beat up during work you should not get the watch in your image since it is coated and the coating will look like shit when it scratches. Just get a GShock, that's the ultimate work watch

>>15950752
>Should I go the quartz if I anticipate being pretty rough with it at work?
Yes absolutely, it's pretty easy to fuck up a mechanical movement

>>15950774
So what do you mean by this?

>>15950046
$99 flieger from Escapement Time on Ali Express. 316L brushed case, NH35 movement, sapphire crystal, metal movement spacer, BGW9 lume, 300m depth rating (supposedly), nice retro style crown. Stupid good price for the specs regardless of being a little known Chinesium piece.

>>15950793
FEDERICO PEDERICO DE LA JOURNALE
INVETORO DI FECALIS

Begone Chinese shills.

>>15950800
it's not 1970 anymore, the swiss need to acknowledge the chink or die

>>15950780
I've already got a g shock I wear at work, wanted to change things up a bit. I'm not that fussed about what it will end up looking like, but maybe a brushed stainless watch would be a better choice

>>15950784
Yeah, I am kind of aware about the limitations of mechanical watches durability, I think i needed to hear it from someone else though, I don't think id be able to wear a mechanical, as much as I would like to have a hand wind watch

>>15950814
this helps if you mention what your job is
but anyway mechanical/automatic movements are more susceptible to magnetism, shock (both high levels of shock and repeated low level shock/vibration), the PVD will wear, if the crystal isn't sapphire it'll scratch, etc. etc. etc.
I'd rather get a boldr venture, it's a nice field watch with a sapphire crystal, titanium case, and has a more casual look to it that's more versatile.

https://octonwatches.com/?v=7516fd43adaa

Wtf are these new companies that appear on facebook or instagram?
This Octon co. sounds awesome and assembles shit in Sweden. Sounds better than shit assembled in Japan

Should I try one?

>>15950822
I make orthopaedic devices, so composite manufacturing really. I think I'm going to get this one fren. I appreciate the advice

>>15950797
Uhhhh wut.

>>15950835
screams a f f o r d a b l e l u x u r y to me
I lik the lume though

>>15950836
well you might be happy to know that modern mechanical movements are a little more resilient, they typically have a baseline magnetic resistance and shock protection so unless you're working around big electromagnets or something that causes a lot of shaking it should be pretty fine.

>>15950835
They have limited menu

>>15950835
>place it's assembled means more than the history and resume of the company making it
You're the exact target for marketing teams in the industry.
>I'll trust this no name watchmaker more than the watchmaker with hundreds of years of history and proven designs because muhsweden
It's run of the mill microbrand watchmaking.

>>15950835
Literally tudor black bay 58 knovkoffs with Rolex miligaus second hands for some reason.
That watch is 100% off the shelf chinese parts normally used to make fake watches

>>15950835
Replace the Daniel Wellington with any Rolex/Tudor knockoff watch you can think of and this applies. The op exists for a reason.
https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

>>15950865
Thanks for the speedy response. That's exactly what I thought. Going get an Orient then.... Just looking around

>>15950875
WTFFFFF I swear there are so many chink companies that are spamming our markets doing exactly that. And it's not just watches for sport-casual joggers n shit

>>15950835
Shitty Rolex submariner "homage" #908912389151

STOP BUYING FUCKING SHITTERS. GET A REAL ROLEX OR FUCK YOURSELF. YOU AREN'T FOOLING FUCKING ANYONE WITH YOUR SHITTER, BARELY ANYONE EVEN FUCKING NOTICES YOUR PIECE OF SHIT SHITTY SHIT SHITTER!

>>15950835

>tfw someone shrinks your watch and leaves it in a cup of Sprite

>>15950535

Huh, it's got more charm on wrist - I still prefer the "original" Original but they've still kept the joyously stupid decorative bezel I love so much on mine.

Good on you getting out. Furthest that way I ever went was Chepstow and Offa's Dyke. Can confirm fucking freezing.

>>15950951
for what reason

>>15950957
what if you want mondaine
but square

>>15949693
>>15949710
>>15949810
Love the creativity, this thread needs more of that. Even if you are just testing things out, it's worth it and might give you new ideas. I suggest something contrasting, not blue. Those hands look so good. Where did you get them? I'm a huge autist for that helvetica font, got several casios because of that font. I'd put them on this white one. And a leather strap. Divers on leather can look great.

>>15950951
Do it for him, Anon

I have to go to the jungle soon where I'll probably be sweating a lot. What's the most sweat-resistant type of watch band?

>>15951011
Probably perlon, or rubber.

>>15950835
kek. Their whole raison d’être is swindling midwits like you out of your money. They case some garbage off the shelf parts from China, take promo bullshots wherein you can’t see anything, then spend 3/4 of their annual budget on marketing to people dumb enough to watch ads on social media with phrases like
>we cut out the middleman
>affordable luxury
>hand assembled
>Swiss made
which all sounds very impressive to someone who does not know anything about watches. These companies are the lowest of the low.

Is wearing a dinner plate on your wrist effay?

>>15950995
I'm looking at leathers for summer but honestly the thin lug width doesn't serve well, I'll find a leather that stays straight and doesn't taper thinner than 18mm

In the meantime purchased this to see me through winter wearing over coat while fishing

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Premium-Hand-Woven-Nato-Watch-Strap-18mm-19mm-20mm-22mmm-Green-Sand-Black/233847732695?pageci=a220d944-685c-4843-93e0-c538e9e65263

>>15950925
If no one notices it why waste all that money?

>>15951023
Order one made of ray skin or sturgeon or something like that from some south east asian country, lots of options for cheap semi custom leather of acceptable quality on etsy. Just make sure to check reviews and look at customer photos.

>>15951018
That may be an unflattering picture but man, what an ugly watch.

>>15951035
A Rolex gets noticed. An Audemars gets noticed. A Patek Philipe gets noticed. A Vacheron might even get noticed.

Anyone who sees your garbage shitter recognizes it for what it is in seconds, and bases their entire opinion of you on that impression.

>>15951016
So they do the same shit as every sub-Rolex Swiss company then?

>>15951018

>case looks bad
>no lume

I wish they would make a spring drive that was basically a copy of a Datejust or Explorer. Just something simple, classy, well proportioned, but still expensive and shiny, with legibility front and foremost.

>>15951045
No, none of those watches you mentioned get noticed. Nobody cares. There are even millionaire stock broker bros and pharma execs who have never bought a Rolex and probably don't know what they cost. You are living in a very small bubble.

>>15949388
based

>>15951050
They're Grand Seiko so they will continue to churn out crap that no one outside of Reddit memers wants.

>>15951064
Grand Seiko watches would be amazing if they were all just 2mm shrunk in all dimensions instead of having these mondo 41+mm cases with 22mm lug width and 14mm height on fucking "sporty dress" watches

>>15951023
Good looking nato. Try it out, i had my experiences with natos and ended up not liking the look, but they are great for rugged stuff.

>>15950995 oh hands re ralfflestime and they were a bitch to put on

>>15951076
>ralfflestime

Can't find anything, i also tried "ralf fles time" and other variations. Is it some ebay account? Thank you in advance.

>>15951050
If they just put a spring drive inna SKX case I would fucking cum. Explorer would be sick too, they are losing SO much money not doing this. I think their loyal consoomers won't let them though.

>>15951047
>So they do the same shit as every sub-Rolex Swiss company then?
Yes, there are no good sub-Rolex Swiss companies. You have to go to the Germans or Japanese.

>>15951102
I disagree, there's a place for the likes of Longines, Tudor, the better Tag Heuers, JLC, Carl F Bucherer, and Omega.

None are as prestigious as Rolex and they all make some poor value watches, but it's crazy to say they make only shitters.

>>15951113
I would not place JLC or Omega below Rolex, I’d put Omega about on par and JLC far above Rolex. I’m not talking about brand identity but more general watchmaking know-how. I also think Tudor makes decent stuff but I wouldn’t pay half the price of a Rolex for one. I doubt I’d ever wear TAG and don’t know enough about Carl Bucherer to make a judgment.

>>15951130
The good news is that you don't have to pay half the price of a Rolex for a Tudor now, they're only like $3500 while stainless Rolexes have gone off into retard territory and go for 5 figures now.

god i hate these soulless chinese special editions

Going to order the new green Triton soon, but I'm guessing the strap is as flimsy as the Kamasu one, so what should I get as a replacement, a miltat or something rubber?

>>15951150
Rubber
Don't get silicone
Get one of the natural rubber ones from that Italian brand or look for fluorine rubber ones on aliexpress, Borealis also makes a really nice vulcanized rubber isofrane clone for $35, i have one of their tropic straps and it's incredibility comfortable

>>15951167
What are the perks of natural rubber over silicone?

>>15951223
it's tougher and less "sticky" so it doesn't pick up lint or feel like it's sticking to your skin as much

>>15951085
>>15951076
Nevermind, just found the site. Fucking google didn't have it. So i searched for tudor style vostok hands. Lol. Happy i've found them.

Thoughts on Tissot Seastar Silicum as first automatic watch for water activites?

>>15951250
I don't like the Seastar because it looks incredibly derivative and the giant bezel makes the whole watch look silly. The crown and guards seem to be jutting out in a ridiculous way. Can't you just get an Orient Kamasu?

>>15951250
Get like anything else. $500 can get you a lot more watch, like a Glycine Combat Sub or an SKX/SRBP or whatever seiko is calling their divers these days.

>>15951250
Get a certina ph200 or ds action 38 depending on how big you want it

>>15951279
And shop at somewhere like jomashop, don't pay close to retail for either.

>>15951066
It’s so funny that Seiko *refuses* to make another watch under 40mm. The SARB is so popular because it’s 38mm. Everyone admits that the SARX and the Presages are better watches spec wise but if you want the Grand Seiko case shape under 40mm you literally need to buy an 033 or 035. It’s such a simple thing but they can’t wrap their silly nip heads around it.

>>15951314
Seiko have been a complete joke in the last 3 years and I have no respect for anyone who purchased a seiko made post 2018

>>15951253
>>15951278
Thanks appreciate it, will look into them !
>>15951279
>>15951281
Unfortunately I'm not American and am hesitant even with Jomashop because I need to ship it back via intl shipping if there are any issues.

I guess I can try to find out repair costs if something goes wrong locally. My country's prices are literally at least 50% more expensive to buy

>>15951322
Sucks to say it but yeah you’re right. 2008-2018 Seiko was the pinnacle of affordable luxury watchmaking from a reputable house. Now you have to take your chances on micro brands to get what Seiko was giving out for almost free just 5 years ago. Sad really. Orient is promising from what I hear but they’re a wholly owned subsidiary of, you guessed it, Seiko. The percentage of “watch guys” who got into it because of all the iconic sub $500 Seikos is gigantic. The SKX, the SARBs, Seiko 5s, the Monster, the Alpinist and the Cocktail Time probably created more collectors than any haute horology house. It’s depressing when something you love no longer really exists. RIP Seiko, we hardly knew ye.

>>15948994
>>15949020
Do it. An Amphibia makes the best field watch.

>>15951344
Orient is owned by Seiko Epson but functions entirely independently of Seiko's watch manufacturing operations.

>>15951011
Steel bracelet or rubber

>>15951314
Objectively correct. I love the SARX035 enough to have bought it anyway, but it would be perfect at 37 or 38 mm.

>>15950363
Based gshock chad.

>>15949223
My brother got gifted a true chinkshit smartwatch that barely fits him.
I actually don't have ideas for what he can do with it.

https://youtu.be/z6AAinF8Ca8?t=210

What's this watch? Is it a Rolex?

>>15950752
mechanicals cannot handle hard jolts or prolonged rumbling
i wouldnt even jog with a mechanical
otherwise its fine. Plenty of cheap beaters to choose from

>>15951344
The fuck

looking for starter chrono mechanical with lume. I think so far Lorier is a top contender

>>15949223
as long as you wore them for a while, gifts are special and should be retained. i replaced two from my childhood with identical models later because i'd lost them over the years. one of them (a swatch "carlisle") could not possibly fit me but it was the first watch i ever had so it needs to be in my collection.

>>15950774
Marathon supplies armed forces. He's saying they're designed to be cheap and disposable.

>>15950805
They are the chink

>>15951094
That's what the prospex lx line is.

>>15951344
Cringe

>>15951619
Meant for
>>15950785

nu bread?

>>15950614
It looks fine, although you're wearing it too low. It should be behind your wrist bone, the crown shouldn't dig into the back of your hand like that.

>>15950793
nice. I don't care about the specs, I have a smartphone. I just think it looks cool and want one.

post weird but interesting watches like this

New Bread
>>15951878
>>15951878
>>15951878

How many replies?
Bout tree fiddy.

>>15950549
twink