/fa/ - Fashion

>>15896762
Really on the fence about the Oris Divers 36mm. On the one hand it looks really good and the bracelet is pure sex. On the other, the only fully stainless steel variant, has a blue dial and a black bezel, while the black dial version has bronze hands and bezel ring. They made so little options for the 36mm, it's like they shot themselves in the foot.

Why doesn't Orient release a 38mm Bambino? Why do they hate money?

>>15896797
They have a 36mm version

>>15896793
>the bracelet is pure sex
I fucking hate that thing, I think it looks hideous.

>want to check the time
>eyes directly go to cyclops
What were they thinking?

>>15896793
>$1200

Absolutely a ripoff. This line may have revived Oris for the short term but I don't think they offer enough to ask these prices.

I'm annoyed Seiko didn't make anything to update their 38mm and midsize divers when obviously there's a huge audience willing to pay for smaller.

>>15896812
when you are a boomer who buys a rolex datejust your eyes and mind start to go so you forget what day it is and want to see the date without having to squint
many rolexcucks have tried to make excuses for why the cyclops is a good thing. it's not

>>15896812
They were thinking "hey, if we make the date wheel out of paper, it won't require as much torque to drive!". And then they sold that as a "pro" somehow.

>>15896816
its $2200, not $1200
many brands worse than Oris ask for more
i think the price is high but still reasonable
Oris is not a homage or no-name brand

Why is it so hard to make diving watches that are under 13mm?

I feel like this is literally Rolexs’ greatest strength. They make thinnish watches while Tudor and others are out there making fucking hockey pucks for your wrist.

>>15896837
It is when it's obviously sourced in China and San Martin sells you the same parts for $280 bucks.

>>15896841
>comparing an actual heritage brand to a homage brand

then buy san martin and stop whining, nobody is stopping you

>>15896843
>actual heritage brand
>chinese parts
>heritage

lmao you really got suckered by swiss marketing didn't you. do you really think your Oris was crafted by elven swiss blacksmiths?

>>15896839
Yep. Honestly one of this biggest selling features for the baltic aquascaphe for me. 12mm thickness with the crystal. The sinn u50 is also nice and thin and has a 500m depth rating. I'm too much of a poorfag tho

>>15896839
People buy divers because they want bulky watches. Mine's 9mm thick, and I wouldn't mind it being a bit thinner.

>>15896839
My thoughts exactly gonna get a sub for sure because it’s somewhat thin

>>15896848
>do you really think your Oris was crafted by elven swiss blacksmiths?
y-yes

>>15896848
cope and seethe
why dont you complain about omega and swatch group also making their parts in china?
literally everything is made in china now
you are not going to get actual 100% swiss for under $20000, retard

$2200 is like half a months salary, you poor?
its just aesthetic tax, are you going to complain about microbrands like baltic charging $550 for a seagull now?

>>15896863
>y-your poor
>I'm not extremely silly or nonsensical with my swiss wank even though I acknowledge they literally have no advantage whatsoever

Lel also who said I'm giving Omega a free pass?

>>15896878
>why does an european brand with european staff and european taxes cost more than a chinese brand based in china WTF this is a ripoff???

whine whine whine, like a woman
literally go buy your aliexpess stuff and stfu if you are so concerned and tight about your monthly budget

I mean look at this.

How did Rolex manage to develop such thin movements? This is nothing new either, Rolex watches have been thinner than competitors since like the 1970s.

>tfw too poor to buy the new zenith chronomaster sport

Why are luxury brands now moving in the 10k region for new releases? and even smaller brands like oris area creeping up in the 5k region. Except for Tudor there's no brand offering watches with good specs for 3-4k

>>15896881
My BB58 is 12mm thick while the Submariner is 13mm thick L O L

>>15896848
There is no reason to engage with the Oris autists. Everyone knows they make overpriced dogshit, these retards have just done astounding mental gymnastics to convince themselves Oris is not just a cope brand for people who can’t afford Rolex or Omega.

Embarrassing.

>>15896886
Veblen goods homie. Nobody would actually want this shit if it was 1-2k. Well except for us watch autists

>>15896888
actual rich people dont even buy rolexes

rolex is the seiko5 of the luxury world

there are waiters and taxi drivers going around with a rolex
lol@you thinking its some exclusive club

>>15896880
At least I would be paying the aliexpress price for the aliexpress product unlike you lmao.

>>15896890
Yeah but who are they selling to at $10,000?

Or is this just an "alternative" for people willing to buy a Daytona?

>>15896881
The BB is just a fat piece of shit. Compare the Sub to a real thin watch like a JLC ultra thin.

>>15896899
you're fucking retarded if you cant understand why higher wages and taxes = a higher price

imagine whining over a mere $2000 lmao, i pity you
get a REAL job

>>15896886
I've just resigned myself not not becoming too attached to any watch model until I'm ready to purchase. In the case of Zenith, they introduce, redesign, and discontinue models rather frequently so it's possible that they tweak this model a few times before I'm in the market for one.

The reality is also that, aside from a handful of brands and models, most luxury watch dealers will give a customary 20%ish discount, and depending on a variety of factors you can sometimes negotiate further. If you give it a few months or years for the market to cool on this Zenith model, you would probably be able to get it in the $7000 range or even less. There are new Chronomaster 2 El Primero pieces (which are limited editions with MSRP of $10,000, an identical movement to the Chronomaster Sport, and a ceramic bezel) on sale, online, for about $6,500.

By that token, you can get a lot of good watches for $3-4,000; you just have to go into the dealer and see what they offer. "Window shopping" for watches online is largely futile because what you see on manufacturers' websites doesn't always reflect practical reality.

That said, the Zenith Chronomaster Sport is priced too high at an MSRP that is just slightly under the Daytona. The Daytona is obviously very hard to get, which won't be the case with the Zenith, but I feel like most people who are actually willing to put down $10,000+ for a watch would be inclined to be waitlisted for the Daytona and hold off for some time rather than rush into a purchase of the Zenith. After all, these are "lifetime" watches. What difference does even a couple of years make?

>>15896909
>still doesn't get it

Sad. Don't be mad because I gave you buyers remorse and all the fantasies you built up for your trinket personal totem actually weren't real.

Wear gold
craigshipp.com/grandseiko

>>15896930

What do you guys think about the last Tudor Prince Date Days they are selling in Asia? You can get them for $2000 but they only have bicolors left.

>>15896934
Tudors are dogs
Go Grand Seiko

I just wanted to get some opinions on the Divers 65 and started a flamewar

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Seiko-Mens-Automatic-Divers-Watch-for-REPAIR-or-SPARE-PARTS/324463281204

50 quid SKX033, if anyone wants it. I've already got a diver.

>>15896945
It’s a fucking off-the-shelf movement no-name (No one fucking knows who the fuck Oris is faggot) piece of unequivocal trash. What did you expect retard?

>>15896892
Archie tier post. Literally nobody gives a shit about a gold calatrava that looks like an orient bambino, rolex sets all the trends and will forever be the watch to have.

>>15896934
That unironically looks like some bootleg Rolex you would order from China. There is nothing unique about this watch. You might as well get a DateJUST Rolex, or some other watch entirely.

>>15896839
>what is the BB58

>>15896793
Looks like a knock off omega

cop?

>>15897059
>misaligned bezel
AAAAAAAAAA

Kraut field watch with a full coom dial, plus Kevlar woven strap for maximum tactical tacticality.
>tfw not satisfied with these Pella aluminum clad window and trim frame options

>>15897067
lume*
I meant full lume dial

The ones I have collected over the years.

>>15897092
Those Armani watches are classy, well made, and retain value for the resale market. Wear them in good health okay ciao

>>15897092
lol

>>15897092

>>15897100
Come on, don't be such a watch snob, you're better than that.

>>15897100
Wow, such a thoughtful, intriguing, and beneficial thing to post. Keep it up.

>>15897106
The Cartier is fine if you're okay with quartz but come on, the rest are trash. There's nothing of note, it's as generic a group of watches as you can get.

>>15897106

>>15897092
Cartier is nice. Rest look like crap

>>15897092
Fucking SHITTERS

>>15897117
>>15897135

The Cartier is automatic but it looks like crap because it is huge and the date window is badly designed

>>15897096
Thanks man.
>>15897100
Post yours anon.
>>15897117
I got all except the Cartier as a teenager lol. Looking to get something circular in gold and brown leather strap now.
>>15897135
>>15897136
Thanks for your inputs anons.

>>15897141
You think it's huge? I always saw it as kinda small. And what's wrong with the date window?

>>15896981
>following trends like a good goy
sad

>>15896925
>the poorfag still whining about value after X posts
go get yout bootleg watches, nobody cares

>he actually argues about “value” when talking about watches

You know what watch has the best “value”? A smart watch. An $11 Casio F91W. Or, the most value-packed watch, no watch, because as a member of the 21st century you have an electronic device on you at all times that gives you the time, date, day, weather, and literally anything else you could possibly need. Every single watch, then, is overpriced. Even your Chinese San Martin shitter.

Take the red pill and realize this and you will finally enjoy watches for what they are - visible extensions of yourself, cool engineered trinkets, or just nice-looking jewelry for men. The days of a watch being a “tool” are over, and any argument of value-for-money or lack thereof when talking about watches is completely null-and-void.

>>15897201
The F91W sucks, retard. Wish you know-nothings would stop memeing that trash watch. A700 and AE1200 blow it out of the water. 10 dollars more, 10 times the watch.

>>15897207
Congratulations on completely missing the point.

>>15896945
i think its genuinely one of the nicest divers under $5000
its hyped for a reason

>>15896977
>getting watches based on how well known they are
>not knowing Oris
they bought themselves out of the chains of the swatch group and literally just released a built-from-the-ground-up 5 day power reserve inhouse movement last year

try and keep up you absolute normie

>>15897210
When you make such a sanctimonious watch but keep shilling the basic bitch memewatch it makes your point weaker. You don't know what you're talking about, you just repeat the same BS but from the other side, the poorfag side.

>>15897213
you missed his point again
its not about actually recommending the f91w but about framing his argument and the f91w just so happened to be the most well known cheap digital casio

maybe go back to school and get some reading comprehension this time

We're live, guys. Come join us!

https://youtu.be/e8OAZ-X9ke0

>>15897221
His(Your) point is retarded anyway.
Yeah we all know watches are overpriced, but you can still try to get better value. When people talk about value with watches they don't mean raw dollar-to-performance ratio. That's idiotic.

>>15897213
Okay, replace the F91W with (cheap watch of your choice). Whatever “better” watch you choose is overpriced. Any watch is overpriced. The F91W is overpriced. Which is why the idea of buying a cheap watch simply because it is cheap and “gets the job done” is missing the point, because you already have a device that tells you anything a watch will with no additional spending required. A San Martin, a Rolex, a Casio, and an AP Royal Oak are all equally overpriced. So the enjoyment a person gets out of a watch should not be dictated by “value-for-money.”

>buying anything from the swatchgroup

>>15897201
>The days of a watch being a “tool” are over
I can't agree with this by virtue of using my watch(es) as tools for field work, especially in sensitive areas where phones and in some cases all handheld electronics are not permitted. Otherwise you're pretty spot on. Value depends solely on the user/buyer. Bang-for-buck is subjective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gaiFsgeO1k

>Take the red pill and realize this and you will finally enjoy watches for what they are - visible extensions of yourself, cool engineered trinkets, or just nice-looking jewelry for men
This ^

>>15897227
So? Because they're all overpriced you shouldn't care about value at all? You are delusional. If you could be 90% happy for $300 or 100% happy for $8000 are you telling me that value would not be worth considering at all? If you could have the best watch for $1 million or the second best for $5000 the value doesn't matter? Get real, you sanctimonious faggot. Value is ALWAYS considered.

>>15897234
Can you enjoy a watch for having more features or being “better” than a cheaper watch? Sure. And that is a decision that, at its core, is rooted in value.
But if you are shitting on Rolex or AP or (insert luxury watch brand here) and proclaiming that your cheaper watch is better because “why would you pay $A for Brand Y, when I paid $B for Brand Z? You wasted your money!”,
then realize that you’re wasting your money too, just like the luxury watch buyer did.
If you can make peace with the value of your watch, then so, too, can the luxury watch owner. He has decided that the values of his watch are worth the price, just like you have decided yours is worth the price you have paid.
But neither of you have made the decision with respect to maximum value-for-money.

>>15897267
We all know we're wasting money, retard.
But you can waste less money. There are thresholds.

>>15897234
>90% happy for $300 or 100% happy for $8000
but you can't. you can only be 100% happy at $20 and delusional above that

>It’s a “poorfags derail another thread with aggressive cope posting again” episode
I’m so tired

>>15897201
>The days of a watch being a “tool” are over,
I use my watch as a tool constantly. I wake up, and I can see the day, date, and time in half a second. When I'm cooking something, I can set my bezel and check it again in later to see how much time I have left.

I don't carry my phone with me everywhere like a drone, and even if I did, the things run out of battery occasionally.

>>15897289
my man that's a story about how you need a new phone and nothing else

>>15896906
Yes

It's up! Keep it gentry.

https://youtu.be/NsauWIVV7UY

>>15897270
Sure. But you can’t fall into the us-vs-them trap of watches so many fall into, which is this:
“I own a watch that is relatively cheap. It tells the time and even has a couple complications. Other people have spent up to one hundred times the amount of money I have paid for this watch, and their watch might even do less than mine. Therefore I am a smart and educated consumer, while others are simply stupid. I cannot imagine how someone could spend that much money on something as simple as a watch.”
This viewpoint can be found in every single watch thread created on this board and is silly. Your watch is cheaper, yes. But it does not objectively hold more value in a strictly non-utilitarian sense. Neither does the person who has spent more money on their watch necessarily have a watch that is better in other senses than yours. But both of you have settled on the prices you have paid as being reasonable. Do not segment yourself off as some genius as if you’re the only one who can truly see the truth.

>>15897331
that's what you're doing though. follow your own advice

>>15897335
Judging by the responses I’ve gotten to my comments - maybe I am a fucking genius.
Wear what you like. That’s all. But don’t pretend you are the only one who understands what the utility derived from a watch should be and how that translates to money.

>>15897345
>But don’t pretend you are the only one who understands what the utility derived from a watch should be and how that translates to money.
Literally strawmanning. Nobody is claiming to be "the only one who understands" blah blah blah. You are bitching that people have opinions. Opinions that are usually asked for. And your argument is, that you have no opinions because you have no dick so nobody else should express their opinions on value either. Who are you to set these rules? What makes your idea more valid?

>>15897349
Because I’m based.

>>15897360
Based!

>>15897360
dangerously based

>>15897229
based watch, not as convenient as a normal slide rule but usable

my wrist circumference is the same as my dick circumference

:)

Hello, /wt/. How are we doing today?

>>15897498
deciding to wear my casio as a cock ring or not

>>15897494
this is a class 1 pics or it didn't happen emergency you freak

>>15897502
That's a thick rooster bro

>>15897498
Damn that's a nice watch

R8 cop

>>15897515
Neat /10. I'd probably change the strap but I'm also a faggoot.

>>15897513
Thanks buddeh. The Nipponese have blessed us all

>>15896934
that cyclops grabs all attention from the thin hands, the day and the small text

i fucking hate these things
it would have looked so much better without one

>>15897515
nice watch but you are wearing it in the wrong place

>>15897531
based SuitSupply anon

how do I ask if there's a discount on a watch? tomorrow I'm going to buy my first kinda expensive watch and i wonder if i have to ask to the ad if he can give me a discount or if he's going to tell me if he can make a discount

>>15897582
You have to ask if they can give you one, and typically they will

>>15896837
still not worth that at all, should be 500-600 at most

>>15897582
Let the ad do her sales shtick, act all excited and agreeable. When she thinks she won you over and gets down to finishing the deal look into her eyes and say the following in a firm and calm voice:
>You know [first name], I like you and I like the watch and I'd like to make a sweet sweet deal as much as you do. However...
-here you hold your phone right in front of her, revealing Jomashop®'s start page-
>I'd like to see the Jomaprice® first as a starting point for our negotiation

>>15897360
baste

>>15897582
Many times the AD will be an attractive young woman to cloud your judgement. Assure your dominance by acting all polite but distant, referring to her as "young lady", "doll" and "sweetheart", and asking for her boss to "discuss the finances of the deal, like man to man". Your attitude will remind her of her emotionally removed dad driving her to try and please you by offering a huge discount.

>>15897649
You come across as a weirdo that tries to talk and act like Clint Eastwood in real life but everyone thinks you're an autist and is worried about if you're strapped underneath that trench coat.

>>15897649
based autist

what kind of watch is she holding?

>>15897582
Any AD worth his salt will be familiar with /wt/ and the ultra high-net-worth-individuals frequenting it, so make sure to namedrop /wt/ in order to get the best experience. Something like "yeah, /wt/ told me this model is particularly based, but then an anon pointed out that it's also kind of cringe and seeing it irl I somewhat agree with him. so, is it based or cringe, what is your expert opinion?" will do. It also wouldn't hurt to start noticeably browsing the thread while he's replying to you.

>>15897704
Also, make sure to say "Kek, shitter, next" every time he brings you a new watch. It'll show that you know your stuff.

>>15897699
>>15897699
prolly an invicta, looks like a reserve venom snake/dragon but I can't find the exact model

>>15897718
its probably some fake watch, but she said it was $3000 i think you might be right on the brand

>>15897699

Looks like some Invicta nigger tier shit. Would not expect anything else from a used up roastie begging to stave off her imminent death and tirelessly trying to cope with the fact that she spent her entire life jumping from dick to dick instead of starting a family.

>>15897621
san martin themselves ask for that amount if its a SW/ETA movement

and you have brands like longines charging $3000 and above for ETA

a old brand like Oris asking for $2200 is entirely normal

Why fid nobody mention that citizen makes wall clocks?
Also would this look okay in my living room or is it more of an autism mancave basement kind of clock?

>>15896762
"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
<3k
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
Dress or Pilot
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
Automatic
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
Dual time, preferably with inlaid mini hour/min hands showing the other time
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
leather or bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size
Will take any

>>15897649
this is why you slap her after she greets you, make her know where you stand in the transaction

>>15897768
https://www.sinn.de/en/Modell/857_UTC.htm
https://www.sinn.de/en/Modell/856_UTC.htm
https://www.archimede-watches.com/pilot/pilot-42-gmt-steel-and-bronze/
https://www.stowa.de/en/Flieger+GMT.htm

>>15897768
http://www.dodane1857.com/collection/type-23/type-23-gmt/#top

is wearing three watches ever socially acceptable?

>>15897760
Lots of watch manufacturers make these and distribute them to dealers. Honestly, they’re a bit cringe and don’t belong in a living room. I wish they made wall clocks that weren’t designed to look like watches

>>15897777
>https://www.stowa.de/en/Flieger+GMT.htm
thx anon, nice looking choices
my terminology is probably incorrect, i meant along the lines of this in terms of the second time:
https://www.hannoushny.com/baume-mercier-classima-men-s-watch-10218.html

Guys I don't have much money but I wanted something that looked nice I guess. I bought this. Did I do good or jump the gun? I-it has indiglo...

>>15897794
>http://www.dodane1857.com/collection/type-23/type-23-gmt/#top
nice, very nice

>>15897815
what's your budget and what type of watch do you want?

>>15897768
https://www.laco-watches.com/en/watches/pilot-watches-special-models/frankfurt-gmt-schwarz
https://www.bellross.com/our-collections/vintage/br-v2/br-v2-93/br-v2-93-gmt-steel-strap
https://usd.farer.com/products/morgan
https://montawatch.com/products/monta-skyquest-black-dial-ceramic-bezel
https://www.hamiltonwatch.com/en-int/h76755135-khaki-pilot.html
https://www.hamiltonwatch.com/en-int/h76755131-khaki-pilot.html

>>15897820
Fair warning that inner dial is a date wheel not gmt time.
>>15897808
Yeah i figured, im not really finding any pilots style watches with the small gmt subdial. Maybe someone else can suggest some.

>>15897830
thank you anon, outstanding choices
i had in mind the dual-time inlaid something like this:
>https://www.hannoushny.com/baume-mercier-classima-men-s-watch-10218.html
happen to know any with that type of dual-time?
thx

>>15896812
I fucking love the cyclops

>>15897815
very effay, I like it anon

>>15897836
understood, thanks

I've owned one of these for a while now
Kinda wish it had a cyclops
thanks for reading my blog

Please share alternatives for the Alpinist. The gold and green dial looks nice, but the internal bezel is useless for any practical application. It is also Reddit’s favorite Seiko, therefore I hate it because 4chan makes decisions for me. Requirements:
>no external bezel
>screw down crown
>100m minimum WR
>easy read dial, field or Explorer style dials are better
>display case back is okay, but not desirable
>no internal bezel, one crown only
>no Vaer or Boldr or similarly shitty microbrands

>>15897867
Forgot pic

>>15897860
I found a cool one, it is a little over your budget but you can probably get a deal. It has an independent 12 hr and minutes subdial with an am/pm indicator for tracking a second time zone.
https://www.oris.ch/en/watch/oris-big-crown-propilot-worldtimer/01-690-7735-4063-07-1-22-72fc

Actually never mind I already found it. Simple dial, good manufacturing, bulletproof design, and no piece of shit display case back. Thanks Hitler

What's a watch that an elite spec ops spy operator marine secret agent assassin bounty hunter on a vengeance path would wear in 2024?

>>15897830
God that Laco GMT looks perfect
I wish I could pull it off, but alas, my 6.5 inch wristed self can only ever wear women's watches.

>>15897876
Sinn gsg9 special edition
Oil filled neatly indestructible diving watch with a high accuracy quartz movement
https://www.sinn.de/en/Modell/UX_S_GSG_9.htm

If you are cool with high accuracy quartz these certina chronographs have a 24hr subdial and look sorta like a pilots watch
https://www.certina.com/en/watch/ds-podium-gmt/c0346541605700
https://www.certina.com/en/watch/ds-podium-gmt/c0346541104700

>>15897867
just buy the alpinist bro.
I fucking love mine more than my GS; plus since it's been discontinued eventually people will stop posting them every day over on r*ddit.
alternatively get the new not-quite-an-alpinist with the more textured/fiume-esque dials.

>>15897867
SPB155

can anyone explain the GMT meme to me? why would you want that on an everyday dress/diver watch? it's so pointless unless being mindful of at least one alternative time zone is extremely important to your everyday life (e.g., finance professional)

otherwise it's literally and objectively NOISE and CLUTTER

>>15897885
>whacks it against a rock in the mountains of Pakistan
>oil leaks out
>has to wait 6 months for Sinn to service it before he can continue the mission

>>15897895
ppl who wanna believe they jetsetters mostly. makes sense for say, a pilot to wear one but otherwise I think it's a bit of a meme.
plus if you don't have a GMT it's an excuse to wear 2 watches when you travel like the fucking autist I know you are.

>>15897890
It's not discontinued, they just added Prospex branding.

>>15897875
That watch is so fucking awesome.

>>15897867
It doesn't suit your requirements at all, but I can tell that the Nautic Ski is what you're looking for:
https://www.lip.fr/fr/80-nautic-ski-38-mm
It's the anti-Alpinist, succeeding everywhere where its rival fails.

>>15897900
it's a different watch.
>exhibition caseback
>ar coating
>thiccer
>6r35 not 6r15
>the sarb017 actually has 'alpinist' on the caseback, new one doesn't.
>unreasonable price increase on the newer models
>that 'x' that some people hate/don't hate
the sarb017 alpinist is objectively discontinued.

>>15897890
That’s quite nice! I like the sandy dial, the somber shade of green, but I don’t like their “XXX FACTOR” Prospex logo. The dial ruins an otherwise nice and affordable alternative to the Explorer. Boo.

I’m getting the Archimede Protekt instead

Rate the new longines silver arrow reissue. They sized it up but only to 38.5 which seems reasonable.

>>15897900
thats like saying the Explorer 14270 hasn't been discontinued. you are a fucking idiot

>>15897890
What's with the retarded textured spray paint and the Xtreme logo? Going for the snowboard/skateboarding audience from the late 90s/early 00s?

>>15896762
"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
Approx. US$10,000 or under; maximum US$12,000
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
Sports chronograph
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
Automatic with column wheel and vertical clutch
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
Water resistance of greater than or equal to 100m, 150m or greater preferred; at least chronometer certified or better; hacking seconds
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
Bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size
No restrictions on diameter, less than 14mm thick

>>15897905
>improves and capitalizes on redditors while still looking exactly the same
It's the same watch.

>>15897895
When you far away from PST/EST/GMT it'd always handy to have a reference since most online events are referred to in those time zones.

>>15897914
solid dress watch/10

>>15897914
Very nice design. I wish Omega used hands like these on the Globemaster.

>>15897929
>improves
you saw the cyclops right?

>>15897920
https://www.watchesonnet.com/rolex-116520-blk.html

>>15897937
Wow. This is an amazing price considering these models are going for 4x the price on Chrono24. Seems too good to be true.

>>15897914
>They sized it up but only to 38.5 which seems reasonable.
makes sense because it's the kind of unisex watch boomer husbands pick for their obese boomer wives for their 40th anniversary at the local mall jeweller
it's destined to be next year's jomashop valentine special

>>15897935
You mean the one like on the originals?

>>15897949
lol, they used a white date wheel without a gold coloured frame for it. it looks cheap by comparison

Let's all be objective (KEY WORD) for a second.

When it comes to automatic/mechanical precision & craftsmanship and aesthetic, does anything under the $75k+ bracket beat the Spring Drive?

Remember not to be a childish fanboy or bad-faith shitposter.

>>15897956
>aesthetic
>objective
uh

>>15897956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVoRoK1u3Dg

>>15897956
Shut the fuck up you pretentious twat

>>15897920
You should be able to get one for 12k with a bit of haggling
https://www.grand-seiko.com/us-en/collections/sbgc223g
Also this, pic related which you will either love or hate based on the pushers
https://www.grand-seiko.com/us-en/collections/sbgc203g

>>15897978
I love GS but those pushers look fucking ridiculous enough to be from Astroboy or some shit

Lads, I have a weird question. Just got my first watch and had the bracelet adjusted to remove 2 links. I'm making a habit of putting my watch in the case I got with it every night.

However, up until today I never fastened the watch when wrapping it around the pillow. I realized today that that's probably a mistake and the clasp should be fastened around the pillow. The issue is the pillow is much longer than the bracelet when it's fastened.

Is it okay to squish the pillow to snap close the clasp or will that mess with the watch in any way?

Also, is it okay to push/squeeze the pillow down into its groove or can that also harm the watch in any way?

Both are probably stupid/obvious questions, I know, but I don't want to mess up. Thank you for your help.

>>15897920
Breguet
3817ST/X2/3ZU
3810ST/92/SZ9
3810ST/92/9ZU

>>15897956
Of course there are more accurate watches under $75k. Quartz watches. Radio controlled watches. Smartwatches.

Assuming you mean mechanical watches, to my knowledge there are no mechanical movements that are uniformly as accurate as GS's claim of +1/-1 seconds per day for the Spring Drive. Of course there are individual examples of watches that approach or meet that degree of accuracy but I cannot find an example of a testing certification that requires that accuracy standard.

In terms of aesthetics, you set the bar way too low when you made it "under $75k". Do you know how many truly special and remarkable watches there are at $75k?

>>15897989
>In terms of aesthetics, you set the bar way too low when you made it "under $75k". Do you know how many truly special and remarkable watches there are at $75k?
Can you elaborate on this, wise anon?

>>15897920
Ariain type 20 re edition.
https://www.airain.com/product/type-20-re-edition-421437/

>>15897987
>Is it okay to squish the pillow to snap close the clasp or will that mess with the watch in any way?
It won’t affect anything.

>Also, is it okay to push/squeeze the pillow down into its groove or can that also harm the watch in any way?
Calm down, nerdboy

Does anyone else get a bit bothered by high end luxury watches that just have the hour and minute hands (ie JLC Classics and Cartier Tanks)?

It just seems like something incredibly cheap and backwards on something that is premium.

>>15897956
What is the point of that blue hand?

>>15898008
They don't include the second hand because they know they'll be embarrassed by the stiff movement.

>>15897991
There are many fully hand-finished, precious metal, high complication watches by true top of the line haute horology manufacturers that are available for $75k or lower.

>>15897993
These guys had Manufacture La Joux-Perret S.A. design or at least modify an existing design specially for this to get something thst matched the features of the original type 20.
Handwindig flyback design

>>15898008
It's a classic traditional dress watch style that usually looks a bit stuffy these days, but it looks okay on some watches.

>>15898009
Hour hand for the secondary time zone etched on the bezel. Usually this feature is described as "GMT" (Greenwich Meantime/London time), as the dial denotes above the 6-o-clock indicator.

>>15897978
Thanks for the recs but both are too thick for my liking.

>>15898009
It points at the gay people in the room. The “GMT” stands for “gay man teller”

>>15898009
GMT hand. Moves twice as slowly as the hour hand, corresponds to the 24 hour wheel. Usually set to a different time zone or Greenwich mean time (+0), hence the name.

>>15896762
Went for a look at the Grand Seiko boutique as well as the Tudor dealer, wish I didn't like the Pelagos so much, hard to choose between it and a few of the Grand Seiko. Looking at the 37mm quartz, the quartz fixed bezel gmt, or the 39mm black dialed spring drive from Grand Seiko. Got a 10% pay rise earlier in the week

>>15898012
Would you be kind enough to link some examples? I would like to go down the rabbit hole.

>>15898024
Congratulations on the pay raise! I always recommend a dress/elegance watch unless you have a true everyday use for multiple time zones, slide rules, and so on.

You cannot go wrong with pic related. However, I must admit that the Spring Drive sweep is absolutely immaculate. Never seen anything so smooth in my life. You'll be transfixed just looking at it while the minute hand moves without you even noticing at all. It's a flawless execution of a very complicated complication.

>>15898024
Thr pelagos is such a great looking tool watch, as long as the size and thickness is right for you and you want a pure tool watch aesthetic. It would be perfect if it was 2mm slimmer.
My other favorite from the ones you listed is the GS quartz gmt.

>>15898020
>tfw you check your watch and the gay man teller is pointing at 6

>>15898010
>They don't include the second hand because they know they'll be embarrassed by the stiff movement.
Yes I’m sure Jaeger-LeCoultre, one of the most celebrated movement manufacturers of the last century, is so embarrassed by their movements they elect to forego a seconds hand.

This general is irredeemable.

>>15897993
>cut numerals

>>15898024
Go for the penis dial gmt

>>15897867
you know, you can just use the compass bezel as a timing bezel. North is red for a reason

>>15898026
Well, I'm not very well versed in that price category and the "trinity" houses aren't always transparent with their pricing, but consider for example the Patek 5139 which is on the secondary market around the $70k mark. It is a 38mm x 8mm perpetual calendar in white gold with a 48 hr power reserve, completely hand finished, and one of the most beautiful watches ever produced.

Or, for something more basic, consider a Vacheron Overseas chronograph at approx. $25k.

>>15897993
>>15898013
Interesting rec but it's manual wound and isn't chronometer certified. I like the flyback complication but the watch isn't quite for me.

>>15898034
I am only talking finances since it is anonymous. But I got a $5k bonus at the end of the year as well, my girlfriend is fronting up half of the deposit for a house (thought I was going to have to do 100% of the deposit for the mortgage)

I can't really wear any dress watch enough, since I am pretty young, can't wear it to work and haven't for the wardrobe for it. The issue with grand seikos for me isnt that they have too many good models, can't pick between any of them. Going to start investing in stocks as well, so I'm headed in the right direction financially

>>15898035
You are bang on right about the size, I was hoping it would be too big for me and make the choice a bit easier, but I am a real big bloke, so I can pull it off

>>15898055

>>15898065

>>15898013
Should I go all in?
https://www.airain.com/investor-benefits/?v=35b5282113b8
What are some watch companies to /invest/ in?

>>15898058
Okay one last weird suggestion
The Archimede outdoor chronograph. Its just a pretty basic valjew auto but it has a nice sports watch design and a german made case.
It's also only 13.8mm thick
https://www.archimede-watches.com/outdoor-chronograph.-s

>>15898044
We're in 2021, old man. No one cares about your rinkydink French watchmonger.

>>15898068
Is the swatch group or Richemont publicly traded? I don't think i would want to invest in any kind of startup especially a what microbrand that hasn't shipped this first model yet.

>>15898063
Good for you, anon - sounds like you you have many blessings to be thankful for!

If you ask me, you can't beat the Seiko in battery or mechanical until a much higher price point. Once you get to PP/AP/VC, which is about the $30k range, then you can start really differentiating by aesthetic, but even then, nothing is as precise as a GS on other side of the fence - that's God's honest truth.

Read these to understand further just how special GS is, and why their price points are God-tier:

https://www.plus9time.com/seiko-the-neuchtel-chronometer-competition

https://watchesbysjx.com/2013/06/explaining-seikos-legendary-history-in-swiss-chronometer-trials-with-live-pictures-of-its-landmark-astronomical-observatory-chronometer.html

https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/how-seiko-gave-the-swiss-a-blood-nose-and-the-birth-of-high-beat-movements.4871793/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVoRoK1u3Dg

I own a Rolex, Tag, VC, and GS, for the record.

>>15897920
Zenith defy land rover limited edition
The only non skeletonized defy model
Plenty available on chrono 24 and from ADs

>>15898086
How much? In before 5k+ lmfao.

>>15897914
nice

>>15898087

>>15898072
>watchmonger
more like clockmonger, I did some googling about this Jaeger brand and these frenchies made their fame manufacturing clocks and instruments for vintage racing cars, then they go all mon dieu when it's 2021 where everyone drives a Tesla and no one wants to strap a 60mm clock on his wrist anymore

>>15898101
many such cases

>>15898086
Best rec so far and checks most of the boxes. I actually don't mind the skeletonized models. My problems are that the El Primero uses a horizontal clutch, the seconds don't hack, and Zenith (mostly) doesn't chronometer certify them

>>15897169
I'm not even close to whining I'm laughing at your lack of knowledge :^)

>Calling me a poorfag
>Hypes up Oris

Lmao

>>15897201
>this is your brain hook, line and sinker for watch marketing and journo blogs

Cringe

how does this watch hold up.
anybody have one.

>>15898112
Yeah you are correct. There are some newer models that use the new 3600 movement which is still a horizontal clutch but it's a heavy redesign of the el primero movement and has hacking seconds..
But i think it's only available in this guy right now and not the defy line.
https://www.zenith-watches.com/en_us/product/chronomaster-sport-03-3100-3600-21-m3100

I really want a 3 tick-per-second quartz.

>>15897867
>no Boldr

You just shut yourself out the best explorer watch in that price range.

>>15898008
Lack of seconds feels elegant and graceful. Do you really need to know the exact seconds of time while you are in a dinner party?

>paying $2000+ for a watch

Seems excessively wasteful. Just spend a few hundred bucks and use that money for something meaningful like ecological conservation, extinction prevention, sponsor kids in developing countries or even simple charities to help out hungry and homeless. Will a pricey watch really bring more joy than knowing you changed the world or someone's life for the better?

>>15898124
Redditcore meme-watch

>>15898079
I don't think Grand Seiko can be beat either at the price point, but I can really understand why some people would never purchase one, a lot of people are just in a euro centric watch world. I honestly hate how Rolex have became, otherwise I would purchase one. Not for brand whore reasons, but because they make a fugging good tool watch. Grand Seiko just don't have the design and dimensions down pat like Rolex has (had maybe, not sure how their new designs are) for their tool watches. But I also hate the scarcity shit Rolex are trying to pull, so won't be getting one regardless

Guess I've got some thinking to do before pulling the trigger

>>15898145
I make a lot of positive decisions regarding others all the time, i make a lot of effort for lack of plastic waste and chemical disposal at work even though it is so much more effort, buy local produce for groceries, buy clothes made in first world countries, give stuff to charity. Ongoing actions are more powerful than writing a cheque to some organisation that pisses the money away under "admin" costs

>>15898119
Not him but I dont get your point? there are far worse examples of overpricing

If the free market is the ultimate decider in a capitalist system as long as these watches sell they are "acceptable" price wise

do you have a hate boner for Oris or something?

its kinda dishonest to compare a brand like san martin to a big brand

>>15898093
LOLOLOLOLO

>>15898149
>buy clothes made in first world countries
Thanks for fucking up employment opportunities for people in my country fucker.

>>15898149
It's good to think about your decision as well, but GS has jumped to the top of the aesthetic rankings as well for most people in the scene with their 2020 and 2021 releases. The Four Seasons collection, especially Winter and Spring, are magnificent. The dial finish is untouchable and the bezel-less sapphire crystal is beautiful to look at as well. The finish also includes streamlined lugs. In conjunction, the exterior design makes the watch appear thinner in both dimensions than is actually is.

I definitely recommend looking around. Outside of GS, Rolex, Omega, Tag, Cartier, Tudor, Credor, etc. all feature a bunch of great designs in that $6k-10k USD range.

However, I promise you that nothing can match the frictionless glide of the Spring Drive movement. That is the final mastery of the mechanical watch.

>>15898079
>you can't beat the Seiko in battery or mechanical until a much higher price point.

orient and microbrands absolutely BTFO seiko in anything <$1000

>>15898159
I should've specified Grand Seiko; my mistake.

>>15896793
its a really, really nice looking diver but im not sure about the smaller size

>>15898149
I believe GS has surpassed rolex in terms of their dress watches like oyster perpetual. Putting them side by side the op just looks so dated and basic compared to GS's offerings.

GS needs to make a knockout dive watch to push out the Sub. The 62mas could've been a good template but they just keep making 45mm monstrosities I have no idea who wears. I think rolex also fumbled with their switch to maxi cases. There might actually be a rolex bubble when you think about it rolex has never innovated or offered anything unique other than their brand cache. When people start changing their minds and get better educated about horology. They could very well likely get left behind.

>>15898155
You get paid substandard wages to operate in dangerous workshops that produce a lot of pollution as well as considerable environmental impact from the inherent disposalness of the final product. I ain't crying for you fren, only shedding tears for the textile workers that lost their jobs when the outsourcing trend came through a decade or so ago

>>15897301
bet he can check the time quick then you can check your phone. I guarantee it.

it's a more effective tool then a smartphone when dealing with telling time. and it looks better.

>>15898146
mind explaining? I'd rather not buy a piece of shit.

>>15898124
Probably going to buy one just because it would piss >>15898146 off. I can't stand no fun allowed dipshits who thinks anything that's popular is now "reddit" whatever that even means

>>15898178
the virgins on this channel love their virtual turf wars

>>15898175
Yeah much better to starve in a ditch or get sold into sexual slavery as kids. Retard.

>>15898178
It's your money, consoom whatever suits you.
What do I care how one tasteless NPC on an online Bahamian fashion forum decides to spend their money?

>>15898124
>>15898146
>>15898177
It's not bad but it's one of those groupthink recommendation watches. I'd rather get something that wasn't spoonfed to you by internet consoomers.

>Speedmaster
>Casio royale
>Orient ray
>Rolex explorer
>etc

>>15898158
>GS has jumped to the top of the aesthetic rankings as well for most people in the scene with their 2020 and 2021 releases
No they haven’t. Fixing the SEIKO GRAND SEIKO dial was a step in the right direction but they still have a ways to go. Watches like the Snowflake look good but they still don’t make a decent diver or chronograph. I don’t know if it’s a cultural difference or what, but the massively oversized divers and chronos especially look like total dogshit to me.

I like GS, their only fault is their design team is either catering to a different market or they are incompetent. It should not be hard to make a decent sub competitor, or a chronograph that doesn’t look like it was designed by a blind guy.

>>15898158
Are you the PoliticsFag from a few threads back who bought the GS? I think with a little refinement to case dimensions Grand Seiko could become the easy front runner out of the luxury manufacturers. I was only planning on having the budget for the quartz grand seikos, which start at $3.3k aud, but I figured I'd stretch it for the spring drive model that is about $5.3k aud, once I considered stretching it, I guess I had to give Tudor a chance as well. Not in the budget atm to look at the more expensive Spring drives, but I can really appreciate them none the less

>>15898173
100% on dress watches, the op39 looks like shit on a leather bracelet. Like I mentioned above, dimensions tweaking will put them out in front by a large margin

>>15898184
I literally do not care one bit m8, sorry. The environmental impact from clothes manufactured in developing countries as well as how the outsourcing made hundreds of locals in my community lose their jobs comes drastically far ahead of the concerns about your economy. Start a union fighting for decent pay, safer work places and better environmental regulations and I'd be happy to donate money. But I aint buying clothes made in sweat shops

>>15898191
I literally don't care about anything you just said (assuming you were the "reddit watch" guy) I just hate you for being a mouth breather who thinks calling something reddit is some kind of opinion

>>15898194
generally agree, but the >SEIKO GRAND SEIKO seems like a non-issue when you compare it to the fucking chapter ring on a modern Submariner.
The dress watch-on-a-bracelet they've almost got down if they could up the anti and taper the bracelets and make something like a easylink/glidelock but they seem partially deaf about this shit so who knows if they'll ever do it.

>>15898199
K, go ahead and buy your $20 reddit shitter as if that's going to somehow own me.

>>15898194
Unironically mall shitter design on the level of TAG Heuer or worse.

>>15898194
You're obviously entitled to your opinion, anon, but I'm talking about general community opinions (here and on Reddit) plus social media plus well-trafficked watch websites like Teddy and Hodinkee and others.

On a macro level, the GS aesthetic is highly appreciated these days, especially in terms of dial and case finish.

Also, just to be clear, I'm referring to their Elegance and Heritage lines - I agree their tool watches are a ways off.

>>15898197
Hey, anon, that's me. I should be asleep right now as it's 2am here and I have a team meeting at 10, but I'm being irresponsible.

You'd probably really dig their 160th anniversary LE at 37.5mm x 9.5mm.

https://www.grand-seiko.com/global-en/special/kintaro_160th/

I think Tudor vs. GS for tool watches comes down to whether you prefer a mastery of movement or a higher tier of case finish.

I just registered for the Grand Seiko seikret klub. I wonder what the benefits are.

>>15898206
I've had my fair share of late nights and early mornings, at the moment I ain't a politics fag (yet, I'm working on it). So I can't really appreciate some of Grand seikos dressier pieces since my current wardrobe and my hands on work just means I couldn't wear one often enough. The spring drive model I was looking at today has some nice dimensions at 39mm and 12mm thick. The dial is a matte colour and goes a more charcoal in light rather than a glossy sunburst like other black dials

>>15898197
>>I literally do not care one bit m8, sorry. The environmental impact from clothes manufactured in developing countries as well as how the outsourcing made hundreds of locals in my community lose their jobs comes drastically far ahead of the concerns about your economy. Start a union fighting for decent pay, safer work places and better environmental regulations and I'd be happy to donate money. But I aint buying clothes made in sweat shops
Are all Americans this fucking retarded and myopic? Do you learn anything in school except slavery and holocaust? Have you ever seen the inside of a book?

>>15898214
Got it. That's fair. If you're very hands on, you may want to invest in a G-Shock or something until you have more of a desk job, no? Even if you buy an expensive tool watch, I imagine the crystal or bracelet/strap would get roughed up pretty quickly if your job involves manual labor, doubly so if it's outside.

>>15898219
Imagine being so dumb that you must work for a living, especially blue collar shit, how do people like that even exist in 2020?

>>15898221
blue collar is based. I'd rather be blue collar than an unemployed rich NEET; better for the soul.

>>15898221
To be honest with you, I've never really appreciated the concept of "blue-collar wealth" until I started working in politics. You'd be amazing at how well a lot of manual labor bosses live - especially when it comes to property development.

Why the fuck are the hands and indices on $6,000 + watches made of 14k or 18k white gold?
It's not a lot of money in gold and it would keep the dials looking nicer longer. There is really no reason i should have to buy a solid gold watch just to get gold hands.

>>15898213
They occasionally will have receptions at the store after hours where they will let you see rare models like the credor minute repeaters and other extremely limited pieces, they will probably also send you a lot of marketing emails.

>>15898230
does this exist in Australia? would be dope if it did.

>>15898230
>>15898230
Dang, that's pretty cool. I've never actually encountered a true watch snob/geek so I want to go to at least one to see what the crowd's like.

>>15898234
>>15898236
No idea, here is a video from france where a guy goes to one of these owner and press only events..
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nv2YeUrj_5I

>>15897515
The 8305 is a nice early thin Seiko auto movement and the 30 jewels all actually do something so it lasts well. The lume in this is funky, shining outwards from the tubes and down from the underside of the hands, so it's reflected instead of directly visible. Too bad it probably doesn't work anymore, but you might get it relumed.

>>15898203
I don't care if it owns you I just want you to be unhappy knowing no one cares if you don't like something

>>15898193
oh ok. well i always liked Casio's and the world time is great because I have family in different times zones.

only reason I won't get the f91W is because of the horrible led.

main reason is Casio's are known to hold up for 3-5 years at least. so i won't have to worry about the battery dying or anything for a while. plus it's waterproof.

i see our point though. be unique and all that. but i have yet to see anyone with this watch on where I live. and if I do we'd probably have something to talk about.

>>15897796
Only if you're a whore.

>>15898247
>"I don't care what you think"
>keeps replying about how he doesn't care
Cool.
Keep being an emotional faggot, I'm having fun here. Did you buy your reddit shitter yet?

>>15898215
Cunt, you aren't making much sense, I am obviously going to support my local industries and local manufactured products over the shit produced in a third world country, for a whole variety of reasons

Let's agree to disagree and move on. This isn't /b/. Don't ruin the general with nonsense spats.

>>15898194
>that watch
Looks like one of the ugliest mall watches I’ve ever seen. What the fuck are they thinking

>>15898265
God she is so hot.

>>15898280
I was in the GS boutique today, they look a whole lot better IRL if that means much

>>15898279
That spamming avatarfagging loser is annoying as fuck in the first place.

>>15898145
>Donating
Zoom zoom, only thing I donate to is when I tip my delivery driver.

is F-91W the best durable timekeeper in its price range?

should i pull the trigger? i love this

>>15898327
whoosh

>>15898227
The same reason Rolex sells 10k+ watches with stamped hands: its better to make $9001 profit than $9000 profit

Tiny Bulbasaur with a interesting video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gaiFsgeO1k

>>15897895
Because people are brainlets. It's actually easier to do the calculations on a regular watch, as long as you remember the key numbers.

For example, the second timezone I use day to day is 9 hours in the future. So all I do is subtract a quarter of the watch dial off my current one. Say it's 9AM. 3 hours back is 6PM. The only people who might need a GMT hand are people who spend every other week in a different country.

>>15898124
I wore one for 5 years, the crystal gets scratched to shit eventually and so does the plastic case.

It's a nice cheap no nonsense watch, but it doesn't bring me the same satisfaction as the rest of my watches. You really don't have to pay a lot more for something you can put a 10 buck sapphire crystal in.

>>15898355
>react

The Fine brothers are gonna have a field day.

>>15898344
full stainless watch 1982 model

>>15897866
You can have a watch maker add a Crystal

>>15898124
It's pretty good for a cheap digital watch, the green map version is the best looking one.

Damn finding a new watch is hard. I want to go to mechanical since i like the steampunk vibe but it's hard to find a good watch. I want it to have a stopwatch and date but everything i want looks ugly, or doesn't have numbers (1 - 12) around the clock which makes it look both ugly and makes it harder to tell time at a quick glance.
And most watches with complications have shitty design that makes it hard to see the actual hands easily

>>15898470
>makes it harder to tell time at a quick glance.
Dude, if you can't read a clock, just buy a digital shitter instead.

>>15897796
i wear two, one analog for telling time and a smartwatch for notifications and calls

sexy

What do you think of Casio AE-1300?

>>15898206
That Grand Seiko looks so much better. The "GS" on other watches are super ugly.

>>15898527
Get a MWD-100H

>>15898527
Get a casio CPA-100 model, super affordable watch with a rare and unique set of functions

>>15898327
Yes, looks great.

$350
Y/N?

>>15898556
Have you tried one in person?

>>15898437
*cyclops

It's super ugly but i want one so bad.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=saEIO6wz3iU

>>15898133
S

Just ordered my first swatch, what does /wt/ think?

>>15898597
Be prepared for how insanely loud it ticks.

>>15897498
fucking gorgeous

>>15898556
nah, you can get chink watches looking just like that for $10
the are just as precies and nobody can tell the price difference anyway

>>15896908
>compare diver to dress watch
idiot

>>15897498
So ugly. I guess it looks better in person.

>>15898556
I like a few of the Dan henry watches. they seem to be pretty well built for the price.

Another option is the "lorsa military chronograph" you can find them on ebay and seem to be a clone of a 7750. I've been looking at them a while but information is so limited I've not pulled the trigger.

ignore >>15898619 , I doubt you can find any decent homage watches to the mk2 speedy / orfina porsche design for $10. If he wants to prove me wrong however I'd be really happy as I'd definitely purchase one.

for $350 you're getting a decent quartz chrono with an alarm function. it's a good casual watch you can just throw on. You're definitely paying a bit for the design. I think it's a really nice looking watch. Not sure how many other options there are before you start getting to sinn 144 territory

>>15898645
Also...

you could try searching for "vintage Valjoux 7750" if you're willing to go the vintage route. obviously a bit more risky with servicing etc but you will get something more "authentic" but obviously more pricey.

>>15898556
the african american one looks really nice

potential cop, any reason why I shouldn't?

>>15898665
*BIWOC
you ignorant bastard

>>15898683
It's ugly? But hey, if you like it.

>>15898274
not him but post your watches.

>>15898578
>ugly
i would be more cordial and say its... distinctive
its also like 50mm across

>>15898683
just get a f91w

>>15898665
just call them niggers

>>15898683
it kinda feels very visually cluttered even though for a chronograph its relatively clean
i think its the hands, the chunky indices, the text all competing with each other

NEW THREAD: >>15898776

Considering getting one
39mm @ 8,6mm
Manual winding

>>15898795

>>15898024
That is a ridiculously good looking watch.

NEW THREAD WHEN

>>15899776
when it's the right TIME for it

haha get it

fag

>>15896762
I GOT EM ANGEL WINGS BRO