/fa/ - Fashion

Never let a thread 404 ever again, faggots

Reporting for duty!

Good job

best sunglasses for /sprezz/?

What does the ideal sprezzy husband look like

>>15885000
ones that match your outfit

>>15885003
Hairy, muscular, bearded, Roman god-bodied, dainty penis, massive throbbing brain

Loose cream linen shirt rolled up, trim grey size adjuster trousers, watch of your choice, loafers

>>15884940
rip /tip/ and /sprezz/

>>15885074
based

Threadly reminder that cecil never has and never will post a fit.
He will reply to this post with seethe but never with a fit.

>>15885097
/tip/ sucks but it didn't 404. /sprezz/ did

>>15885505
404? What does that mean?

>>15885513
Page 10 and off the catalog. /fa/ is a slow moving board and yet no one had anything to post on /sprezz/ and it fell off

SA anon is missing, without his fits there is few to comment

>>15885547
He's out saying '69' to girls at coffee shops

keep thread alive please, looking for change my wardrobe and sprezz is my only inspo.

ITT : americans larping as neapolitans

>>15885639
Literally no one here is American though

>>15885050
Give examples.

These threads had a good run, it's been fun, but it's obvious no one on /fa/ dresses sprezz so these threads are pointless and always dead. When this one inevitably 404s super early don't make another one

>>15885855
Tortoise shell frame with tinted glasses is great, avoid yellow glasses, though. That's too 2000 movie villain style

>>15886392
Obvious classic

>>15886000
based. death to /tip/ and now /sprezz/

>>15885074
If only

>>15886000
>it's obvious no one on /fa/ dresses sprezz
A lack of evidence does not disprove the possibility.

>so these threads are pointless
The thread is not pointless despite an apparent lack of fit pics. There is no single point to a thread. People can discuss and learn from each other through these threads.

>and always dead
kek true dat

>>15886986
Reddit

Does anyone have experience with wool/linen blend? It looks less wrinkly than pure linen, but does it get warm in the summer?

>>15888470
Yeah, I have a summer pair of pants in wool/linen. They're really nice and light and the wrinkling is significantly less than regular linen. And they smooth out after awhile like wool

when your friends say "you are too tidy dressed" ^^

>>15889075
>>15889069
>>15889064
>>15889061

i love jort kelder's style, more men should try to dress the classic, old time-way instead of t shirt and jeans

anyone have tips for good brands? i know massimo dutti and van lier (dutch brand) but they have patches on the shoulder whic look ugly to me :/

>>15889083
scotch and soda

>>15888545
Sounds too good to be true

>>15889297
That's the point. It's like the best of both worlds
It's light and breathable like linen but doesn't crease to shit like it. I find it a bit too light for winter wear though, personally

https://youtu.be/lz6g2FhkIkU
After watching this guy make some pleated trousers I no longer feel bad about paying $180 for a pair.

>10 posts in a day
lol I feel bad for /sprezz/
if any of you poorfags wants a nice pair of shoes, check out jack erwin

>>15889079
Based Jort. Decent guy all around. Rich and posh, but with humor and wit.

>>15889522
>check out jack erwin
I think I will.

>>15889709
nice. saw a pair of loafers at the thrift today, was shocked that they retailed for sub $200

Thinkin of getting a pair of wallabees again. Any ideas on how to make them sprezz? Is it even possible?

>>15889719
I’m for sure picking up a pair now, they look extremely well made for the price.
>>15889733
Don’t.

>>15889083
an old man
wearing old man clothes

>>15889418
Interesting video. A shame that he uses fusible interfacing, though. Essentially he shows how it would be sewn industrially, especially the waistband... Very good accuracy when using the machine, though!

lethato

>>15890682
what the fuck did you just call me bITCH?!

Reminder that you should order things when you want them, not when you intend to use them. Waited with ordering a specific fabric, because it would just by lying around in my room.
Last week I tried to find it, the shop only had a scrap left, luckily it was the exact amount I wanted. The package arrived on Wednesday, without this fabric, apparently they sold it to someone else but it was still in their system (this was marked as first come first serve).
Naturally, I asked when it would be available again, and the replied that the manufacturer discontinued this line entirely.
The other fabric is really gorgeous, though, can't wait to work with it.

>>15891112
My issue is that I'll want something that's seasonal like linen or whatever, and by the time it's ordered and arrived it's almost winter and I can't wear it for months.
I keep doing this

>>15891406
You could order in winter and wear it in summer

this jacket and trouser for around $600 is a good deal?

its 50/50 linen/silk blend

>>15889418
That's a big button

>>15892593
Yeah, looks ugly

>>15892593
For you

>>15892193
Fully canvassed? If so, sounds decent. Mtm would still probably be better, though.

>>15892193
>linen silk suit for 600
Yikes

>>15893144
What's the issue?

>>15893634
Silk is an expensive fabric. I can understand a jacket for 600 but a jacket and pants? Makes you question where they're cutting corners to get the price that low.

>>15893975
You have a point as to it being oddly cheap, but as to the silk thing, the silk % of the fabric is usually like 5%.

>>15885000
Persol

>>15894731
>50/50
>= 5%
I'm guessing you failed mathematics

>>15894766
You nigger. That’s a cumpliment

What an embarrassing thread

copped these allen edmond for $140. Supposedly they should be worth $400.
jewish trick?

>>15895717
Ugly as fuck

>>15895717
>chunky sole on sleek oxfords
whoever did that was a retard
They don't fit you right btw

>>15895772
elaborate how you summed up they dont fit right? Im purposeless contorting my legs for a top and side view of the shoes.

>>15884939
Pic is 'Sthetic

>>15895795
That's the point my dude

>>15895794
Oxfords are closed lacing and the eyelet tabs should be closer together at the throat. Yours are wide open.

>>15895811
You're correct. Proper fitting oxfords should be a lot closer when laced up. Bespoke pairs are made to close completely.
Those are way far apart, but that's more probably to do with AE being shit tier shoes

How old do I have to be to dress like this and not look retarded

>>15895858
as in, I like the style but be able to pull it off without looking like I'm larping

>>15895858
>>15895860
30+ with a "real" job. I work in finance as a 30 year old and wear this stuff and no one bats an eye.
25 is probably the absolute lowest you could be without being looked at weird

>>15895811
>>15895814
thanks anons, I tightened em a bit to see if I had wiggle room. I just need to relace them when I get home, it'll be a snug (but not tight) fit, so I'll work out.

>>15895695
what happened to /sprezz/ anyway?

>>15895717
at least you post content. people here are cancer.

the socks are probably too thick try some proper dress socks. def would return if you can, go with something with proper leather soles instead of those rubber ones

>>15895955
>what happened to /sprezz/ anyway?
It's just dead because no one on /fa/ actually dresses like this

>>15894745
>luxottica

>>15895955
>proper leather soles
have fun ice-skating

>>15895860
>>15895946
I'd say not looking totally babyfaced is one of the requirements. Take Preston from gentleman's gazette, he looks younger than he is, in the videos at least, and therefore it looks more out of place on him.

Bump

>>15897829
Kek

>>15895955
>what happened to /sprezz/ anyway?
checked
It is hard to pull off without looking like sexcore or urkel
No good posters after SA anon left
/tip/ification in the form of gatekeeping and adherence to strict guidelines rather than being the carefree, experimental style it was supposed to be
It's winter. /sprezz/ looks best in warmer temperatures.

>>15895814
This. In my experience that effect has more to do with the shoes being built that way than the tabs opening because of a tight fit. Hell, I don’t think it is possible for any of my oxfords to open that much.

>>15895957
>It's just dead because no one on /fa/ actually dresses
Fixed.

>>15897862
I was referring to the bump in my pants from looking at the OP

>>15898037
>after SA anon left
Did he actually leave? It just looks as if he disappeared, usually because of more urgent matters than posting here

Just a heads up, Spier and Mackay is having a liquidation sale right now. Just bought a half canvassed suit with trousers made of super 130 wool for 250 bucks. I'm a huge fan of S&M so wanted to make the /sprezz/ bros aware

>>15896617
wtf are you talking about, Preston has the opposite of a babyface, he has the jaw of a chad aryan soldier. It looks out of place because his physique is fucked from cerebral palsy and he overdoes his fits à la Sven

>>15898306
He looks very young to me, 22-24 perhaps, but he is 28 or so and dresses like 50, so I agree that he overdoes his fits. He is an extremely based individual, though.

>>15898174
He hasn't posted since his embarrassing boomer-tier '69 LOL' gaffe. Until then he was the king of this board.

>>15898341
Yes, he is absent, but I don't recall him saying that he has had enough of this board or something like that. It happened in the past when he moved to a new place and so forth.

>>15898233
Nice, was looking to buy a bunch of cheaper pants.

>>15895717
jesus christ how embarrassing

>lapels on my jackets start bowing/breaking ever so slightly
>jackets in the next larger size are xboxhueg
Is there a European RTW maker who cuts a bigger chest? Is it high time to take the MTM pill?

>>15898574
Many brands do a slim option and a "regular" or contemporary fit. Just get the regular fit and have a tailor take in the sides

>>15895717
>contrasting rubber soles and full brogue on dark grey oxfords
>weird matte finish

I wouldn't say you overpayed but its a questionable choice of shoes to say the least

>>15895717
also the laces are supposed to close completely, they're either designed like shit or will hurt you like hell

>>15898574
Abou a year ago I was at some rtw store and the same thing happened to me. The sales assistant said that the jacket had some extra fabric to loosen around the waist that their tailors could adjust. Next time you are out it may be worth it coloring this possibility.

reposting from tip

anon with the shoulder issues on the sports coats here. i decided to take apart the cheapest one ive got to try and figure out what i need fit wise, but i cant seem to find where i should place the shoulder by pins. anyone got any good visual examples of a proper shoulder fit?

>>15898174
Probably left because there are so many jealous and bitter people on this board.

>>15898341
Your framing is all wrong. It might seem that way to you, as a male, but younger women are totally different and very juvenile. If an attractive guy makes a silly joke with them, it works.

If you try and be really complex in your jokes with women, it works against you and you come across as just autistic.

That's what guys do not understand. You have to dumb down. You don't approach a woman and start talking about the universe. Nor do you approach her and just say she is hot. You dumb down your speech, make it fun, make it joking. That's the most easy way that she will warm to you instantly and talk back.

>inb4 some kissless teen virgin hits back with HURR NOO UR WRONG CECIL!!

That's the zoomer issue. Too stupid to listen and learn and with self esteem too low to do that and admit they're wrong.

>>15899682
How much padding is in there? On a heavily padded shoulder you need it wide enough so that the sleeve can hang straight down from the end of the pad. On a minimally padded shoulder you can shorten it, so that your arm peeks out from under the seam.
Easiest would be to take a pic of you wearing the jacket without sleeves, but people are likely going to make jokes.
I'll see if I can dig something up for reference.

>>15900077
Let's hope he returns. About the joke, it's also very much an issue of delivery. As you said it, silly and light-hearted is the way to go. A different guy could come off as a total creep with that line.

>>15900682
How do we fix /sprezz/?

>>15884939
What material would you say this is? Pure linen or a blend? I want basically this exact suit

>>15899374
>>15895811
>>15895814
>>15898080
Turns out its an Allen Edmond problem. Better off not buying from them again.

>>15901078
Looks like a blend to me. All the linen cloth that I've seen has a distinct texture, and I cannot see it here.

>>15901026
Posting more fits

>>15899682
How are the quarters so much shorter on one side?

>>15900671
not a lot, the padding is on the breast of the jacket mostly. im considering ripping the shoulder padding out desu.

>>15901279
I wouldn't, even if there is not much padding it makes the shoulder look cleaner.

>>15901322
will reattach it later then. would you suggest i just fold back the fabric and try tacking the padding on different points to see where i need it? wasnt expecting this to be so difficult desu.

>>15901333
I'll look for the reference pics now. How is the pad attached to the sleeve/shoulder? That would be interesting for me.
Why would you pin it differently?

Been wearing a black neck gaiter with my suit for work. Figured it matched better than just a regular mask. Is it too much? Or just fine since it's overall simplistic?

>>15901376
The folded surgical style masks look better with a shirt and tie imo, also these things supposedly protect less than a regular cloth mask. Might work with a turtleneck in the same color.
The suit looks a bit dark for work?

>>15901384
Job ask for black. And yes, these have less protection.

>>15901360
if memory serves it was stitched to the sleeve side of the shoulder seam. its currently not attatched to anything.

>>15901384
none of them protect anyway anon, its all one big larp for the sake of politics. if youre concerned just make sure youve got a healthy intake of vitamin C and D, especially if youve darker skin and you live in a colder climate.

>>15901376
it is a bit much but tbqh theres literally nothing you can wear mask wise that wont make you look a tit. t. guy who wears a folded bandanna to go into shops.

>>15901393
Reference 1/2: The white line marks where I locate the bone of the shoulder joint, the red line is the shape of the guy's arm and the other red line is the shoulder seam relative to the bone seam.
In this pic the pad extends further than the shoulder, it will be more loose and give a more straight edge.

>>15901409
Reference 2/2: Same here, the actual difference may not be that much, but I hope you get the idea. The seam is not "inward" of the joint, rather on top of it. Think a shirt/t-shirt where the seam is exactly on top of the joint, not hanging on the arm.

>>15901414
Another design, here the pad extends very far into the sleeve.

>>15901409
i notice the seam is slightly after the bone, this is good to know. i was unsure if the seam should fit such that the entire arm including all of the upper shoulder muscles should be contained in the sleeve. i also notice that the shoulders sit slighlty away from the mans natural shoulder blade, is this typical on a jacket?

some concerns i have is that i have a relatively narrow shoulder width compared to my chest width, so i have concerns about arm mobility should i move the sleeves inwards. the chest fit is already somewhat tight so i was thinking of darting below the armpit if i need to better fit the underside of the sleeve. any of this sound like a bad call to you?

>>15901434
Instead of a dart in the sleeve you can make a fold, it will leave enough room for your arm then. What else did you change? If you took the jacket apart, then the sleeve should already be at the correct length/circumference.

>>15901434
The "slightly away" is caused by the padding, it's normal.

>>15901450
i havent actually changed anything yet, just detatched one arm from the shoulder. my thoughts on moving the arm inward would be to make it fit closer to the armpit, but i am not sure if thats desireable. i saw it recommended by a video of a black fella with a whole bunch of tailoring vieos where he explained that if a shoulder has to be taken in often so does the armpit.

>>15901466
You can make it higher, but you need extra fabric for that.
The other option is changing the slope of the shoulder, but I'd avoid that, because it shortens the jacket and makes the fronts flare outward. That is likely to make the chest tighter for you.
Try basting in the sleeve as it is, at your preferred seamline, then adjust as often as you need. Without the changed armhole I mean

>>15901475
so just tilt the sleeve inwards at the shoulder then while maintaining the armpit point of contact? will i need to adjust the sleeve hem?

>>15901481
>so just tilt the sleeve inwards at the shoulder then while maintaining the armpit point of contact?
Yes. The sleeve has more circumference than the armhole anyway, so you'll be able to accommodate that tilt. Just don't cut anything off at the shoulder yet.
> will i need to adjust the sleeve hem?
You shouldn't need to.

>>15901488
cheers my man, will baste and see later. also nice digits

>>15884939
>https://pastebin.com/KMAUhYTC
What’s that boutique sunglasses maker think it’s Italian that gets posted here

>>15901087
Allen Edmonds has been a shell of a company since they were sold several years back. They're not worth buying unless they're on sale and heavily discounted

>>15901613
The Bespoke Dudes

>>15902031
Also known as TBD Eyewear by the way

>>15902031
Thx

>>15901746
Is there another company that makes dressy looking shoes with good traction runner soles

>>15902095
Pretty much every brand out there has models with traditional leather soles and models with rubber soles. It's all a matter of determining your budget and checking out the brands in that range
What is your budget?

Pity bump

>>15903172
Give a Piti bump next time

>>15903555
Actually thought about typing that but didn't for reasons

>>15889064
very aesthetic

It is effay to dress full /sprezz/ as a graduate student at an Ivy League school? Asking for myself

>>15904503
Philosophy, law, economics or something similar? Then yes. STEM or some loser humanities degree? No.

>>15892193

I wouldn't try to be sprezzy in a mao/band collar, but otherwise you'll be fine with the fabric blend.

Some of the best stuff I've seen has been from Lapo Elkann, though he's had his IG deactivated for some time. Filippo Fiora also has a relatively good understanding of Milanese flair without being overly pompous.

https://www.styleforum.net/threads/waywrn-classic-menswear-casual-style.253842/post-10510918

What colour is this shoe and how do I find similar colour/pattern? It almost looks like wood with the differences in colour.

Where should I look for a raincoat which cam border casual and can be used for atleast three seasons in England? Are my only options barbour bedales, whatever private white has, or some form of field jacket? I'm not sure whether to look for a Navy, Olive, or Brown.

>>15904672
The color is a simple brown. What makes it exquisite is its painted patina, which is quite beautifully. Right now I can only think of Stefano Bemer when looking at those shoes, bit I’m sure there are rtw alternatives out there.

>>15904743
>painted patina
I think it's museum leather, not a patina that's painted on

>>15905357
Agreed

>>15885000
Vuarnet

>>15906181
Can you give an example? The ones that I found look really bad.

>>15906491
The 02, 1624, 1908, and 374 are all good among others. Pic related, 1908

>>15906811
I like all of those, except 1624

>>15906922
Shit, I meant to type 1623. I have a pair. They feel better than my Persols.

>>15906968
Those are much better, yes.

>>15906989
I’d highly recommend checking some out in person if you find somewhere that sells them

The South African guy has to return

>>15907703
Post your own fits instead of waiting for him

>>15907734
I post em once in a while. It's less about the fits, he only has so many clothes, so it gets repetitive. His opinions are what kept these threads alive.

>>15907811
You mean his shitty PUA blog posts? That shit was beyond cringe and pathetic. Good riddance

>>15907858
tldr?

>>15907901
Several threads back he was making these posts about how to pick up girls and it was retarded shit like "your change is .68 cents" "make it 69" faggotry. God that shit was so pathetic.

>>15907973
My advice is not pathetic. You, who can’t learn social skills, are pathetic.

>>15907984
Nigga, I'm married with a "real" job. I've done the girlfriend and dating thing.
Worry about yourself

>>15884939
I follow him in Insta. His fits are so good

>>15901414
mirin that arm

>>15907973
The question you should be asking yourself is:

>was there a positive response
>did it work
>was it an overall success

The answer is YES and that's how it should be measured.

OMG U PICKED UP A GIRL IN A WAY I DON'T FIND COOL UR SUCH A FAGGOT!!!!!!111

Right...

>>15908468
Shut the fuck you raging faggot. Lose the trip and go hang yourself from a phone pole, retard
Imagine giving a single fuck what you have to say

>>15908498
Imagine this person trying to convince you they are happy in life.

Lmfao.

Imagine using a name and trip on a thread dedicated to menswear on an anonymous Japanese anime image board because you're that much of an attention whore faggot

>>15908513
Bro I promise you that it's going to be OK. You have no idea how great things are going to be. Hang in there.

Filtered. Shit the fuck up, faggot. Don't bother responding to me since I won't see it, but you still will

>>15904672
I think those are John Lobb shoes.

>>15908531
You’re the one shitting sprezz with your immature tantrum. Devaluing trips is a genetic fallacy.

>>15908582
>Devaluing trips
put your trip back on so you can stay filtered ugly.
hint: no one talks like that but you

Is body hair sprezz

>>15908582
You took your trip off just to make that worthless post because you knew I wouldn't see it otherwise
Goddamn, you are so fucking pathetic

In-fighting over petty shit is why sprezz is dead. Long live /tip/.

>>15908587
>>15908598
There would be no need for me to take off my trip, I can tell by your incel replies you would never filter me because you're too insecure I might say something back.

I think everyone here can see how you're raging at every sprezz regular and are a shit posting incel troll. People like you ruined TIP and now you come here.

Just sad.

In fact all regular sprezz users should use a trip in these threads so the genuine guys can get along and ignore bitter angry trolls who are jealous at some of the great fits and people here.

cecil never has and never will post a fit

>>15908614
are you retarded? you haven't either so why should we listen to you?

Cecil calling me out when I literally created the /sprezz/ threads he shitposts in. Grow up you faggot

>>15908632
Uhh I create the threads, idiot. It's the only time I take my trip off. Lying incel.

No life at all.. many such cases. Sad!

>>15884939
Sup retards, hope you're enjoying this cringe shitty thread as per usual, nice to contain you all in one place and not have you spread your autism elsewhere. Fucking die all of you

>>15908637
Fuck you. Autism is MERELY DEVIANT MINDS.

>>15908637
I believe autism is something we all have. It is merely idiosyncratic thinking. Deviant minds. You are autistic.

This thread is containment for hairy Italian men fetishists and LARPERS.

The post count keeps going up but the thread isn't changing at all for me which means that someone I filter is posting and people are replying to him. Please grow up and post /sprezz/ shit instead of replying to tripfags.
Si*g, C*cil, or one of the others I filter, whichever you are, please fuck off already

Everyday I wake up and curse at God for not making me Asian

>>15908028
Link?

>>15908695
https://www.instagram.com/gatsby_osaka/
Some of the best fits I've ever seen. And this dude is what, 50? 60? And he's absolutely jacked, 6 pack and all. Quite an inspiration desu

>>15908700
Yes excellent fits.

>>15904716
Brown or olive sounds good, but it obviously depends on what you want to wear with it. Can't help you with the shop, though.

>>15908658
Based

Why does that faggot always say people are larping?
Larping stands for live action role playing. That implies you are playing a character, pretending to be something you aren't.
Tip is full of larpers because they're pretending they're old money WASPs that went to Ivy league schools. They're dressing up as the Kennedys. That's the character they're pretending to be.
How is sprezz larping? It's just menswear. You're not pretending to be anything by wearing a sport coat and some high waisted trousers. You're just dressing well. Larping implies there's a character you're pretending to be. There's no one to impersonate with sprezz.
Is calling something "larping" just that faggot's way of saying he doesn't like something because he's too insecure and lacks the confidence to do it himself, so he hides by calling it larping?
Someone enlighten me

>>15908632
Why are you so bitter even? Only a few threads ago you cheered us all for creating new threads and so forth.
All because one guy has an opinion that you dislike? Come on...
Chances are you aren't the real creator.

>>15908788
He's an attention whore faggot who thrives off of shitposts and baiting people. Stop making him feel welcome here and hopefully he'll leave.
If he kills himself tomorrow I'll throw a party

I'm the actual creator of these threads. Stop arguing and post a fucking fit.
Got a new striped shirt from Spier and Mackay and I like the way it spices up a fit. Here's probably the first real OC in weeks in these threads

>>15908800
Point out his shit posts in sprezz threads then. He's 100 times more helpful than you. All you do is throw tantrums. Post a fit please. You sound like a bitter loser.

>>15908801
I think the shoes could be lighter, the striped shirt is excellent.

>>15908801
What sunglasses do you wear?

>>15908858
Tortoise shell Wayfarers.
I want to get some TBD Eyewear frames or Oliver Peoples but I'm content at the moment

whats the right time of the year to be thrifting overcoats cheap? i want something warmer and comfier for next winter than what my peacoat or sports coats can provide.

>>15908590
Not if your physique is pathetic like pic related.

>>15908775
>Tip is full of larpers
>Is calling something "larping" just that faggot's way of saying he doesn't like something because he's too insecure and lacks the confidence to do it himself
the irony
not even /tip/, don't @ me

>>15908775
>You're just dressing well.
Are you one of those people who think there's such a thing as 'timeless' style? All clothing communicates something that you want to say about yourself. It's all a game of acting to a degree.

>>15909299
faggot larper

>>15909433
Me: just being myself, soul
You: not being yourself, soulless

>>15909482
>being yourself

lol what a dumb meme.

>>15909299
Very cringe post

I have reached a point in my life where I don't want anything slim fit. Especially not my pants
I can't imagine being 30+ and wearing a slim shit suit.

>>15909698
Ok

>>15908590
yes but not that degree, it's the difference between looking like a southern European CHAD and a sheepfucking arab chud

>>15907973
>>15907858
you're retarded if you those posts were about getting laid

I’m following a bunch of Permanent Style capsule stuff to actually get a decent beginning of a wardrobe I can use before experimenting more. For knitwear, would I be better off with some cheaper uniqlo knits in different colours and crew/rollnecks so I can get maybe five lambswool for £100-150, or am I better off buying better like William Lockie, Alan Paine etc and maybe starting with three or so for £300ish?

I’m not sure if it’s stupid to buy anything but Uniqlo tier knitwear right now when I could save an extra couple hundred towards the price of a sports jacket or pants or shoes? I’m not pressed to save by any means but it seems less daunting. I’m really not sure which colours should be crew neck and which should be roll necks since I can’t imagine pants or jackets to pair with and I want to get as much as I can out of a few items.

The price of any nice design from Rubato, Anglo-Italian, Luca Faloni etc is too much for me and I think I’m safer keeping sweaters basic for now before I explore rib, cable designs and classic shapes.

I lift regularly so I am also afraid of either outgrowing the sweaters too fast (size up to cover myself for a few years?) or having a huge ugly waist where it bunches.

I’d appreciate any advice.

>>15910331
You probably don't need five starting off. Fewer and better quality is usually the way to go in general.

>>15910331
>I lift regularly
If you have been lifting for over 3 years and the noob gains have slowed to a trickle then go for nice things
If you just started then don't bother, you will outgrow whatever you buy and have to get an all new wardrobe within a few months.
Fewer and nicer is better. That said wait until your body stabilizes a bit. It would be like dropping big bucks on children's clothes when they won't fit in a couple months.

>>15910426
Just hit 1/2/3/4 for doubles so idk how much I’ll keep grow, I guess I’m no longer a novice now from a muscle gain perspective? I’m not totally DYEL anymore. I can’t imagine how much chest size will change in the next couple years and I can exactly never buy nicer clothes if I worry about that? It’s why I’m so hesitant.

>>15910439
How long have you been lifting? what has your progress rate been like in the last 6 months? How much has your weight changed in the same time?

>>15910444
It’s been on and off for a year or two fucking around until I was consistent and followed the program so progress has come fast now, my weight has only increased a few kilos.

I’m 5’11, 81kg with a 43” chest and 33” waist. I’m hesitant to buy MTM because of this but I’m considering sizing up knitwear since it’s probably passable and wonder if I can do the same with other items.

I just have no idea how much a chest size can increase over the next year or even two which could fuck everything up.

I expect to reach 85-90 in the future but I don’t know if I should expect a lot of growth. Still on a novice progression but it’s drawing near the end I suspect.

>>15910465
Don't size up. Always buy clothes that fit.
If I understand correctly you are 2 years in but not entirely consistent? Take the following with a grain of salt as it is not a science.
Wait until next fall/winter before you start buying expensive items. It sounds like you are still growing and changing. Keep your routine consistent and eat and sleep right. When the novice stage ends you will know it as gains will plateau and there will be only slight incremental changes.
If you expect to go up in weight then hit your target weight first. Hard to say where muscle growth will occur. I am the same height as you but 96kg, 36 waist, 45 chest, 15% bodyfat. Your weightlifting and fitness goals should take precedence. Once you have hit your targets your body shape will be stable and then you should invest more into clothing.
For now get only the basics. Uniqlo is fine, it does not last long but you don't need it to as you will outgrow it. Save the expensive purchases and MTM for later. In the meantime read up as much as you can, go to lots of stores, try things on, look at how things fit online and irl.
See the following thread for more. There are a ton of e-statters who are obviously bullshitting but also some good pieces of advice.
https://www.styleforum.net/threads/lifting-weights-and-wearing-tailored-clothing.659819/

>>15910508
Thanks for the reply and the thread, useful to consider, though I did notice most only moved up a jacket size. I can’t imagine waiting another year to buy a jacket or even nicer pants. I really struggle to find good pants so maybe I’ll just get some raw jeans and an MTM drill chino from Luxire etc. My options for a nice jacket or coat is basically zero now then unless I get them slightly looser just to buy a bit of extra time until they become snug. I can still buy nice shoes so no issue there. I don’t think it’s possible to dress any better for a whole year without it being a waste is what I gather. There’s only so much uniqlo you can get away with.

Pitti bump

>>15895717
Fuck it, I like em.

What about the anon who took off his sleeve? Did it turn out looking better?

>>15901376
N

>>15911216
I

>>15911374
C

>>15911381
E

>>15911216
>>15911374
>>15911381
>>15911383
I’m proud of you, /sprezz/

>>15910508
As much as I dislike it, I see that this is thing to do and buying nicer items is just the icing on the cake (with longetivity) but cheaper alternatives which look similar can probably get me 80% of the way there I’d guess and wouldn’t look too bad unless you’re autistic about it like I’ve become from planning a wardrobe.

Where could I buy cheaper alternatives for all just to last a year or year and a half until I buy MTM when my size is stable?I’m ready to spend a few thousand on better after so I’d prefer to avoid mid range now if I know I won’t use it again.

Knits - UNIQLO
Shirts - UNIQLO? TM Lewin?
Trousers - ??
Jeans / Drill Chinos - ??
Outerwear - ??
Jackets - I think this is impossible, any cheaper jacket will look completely shit won’t it?

>>15911439
thrift, anon. half decent trousers and chinos can be had for next to nothing lightly used and brand new on ebay. outerwear will be more difficult, buy off season if you can but its still thriftable. jackets are thriftable, but sizing on them is an absolute bitch so i would just skip them for now. outerwear wise buy yourself a nice wool greatcoat in a size up when summer hits if you think youll need it in winter. theres nothing more comfy than wearing the equivalent of a silk lined thick wool bathrobe when its freezing and snowing.

thift shoes too at the beginning, if only to let you build a basic collection on the cheap and try things youre of two minds on. ebay is full of lightly used and mint condition shoes up for pocket change because some rich kid doesnt appreciate the quality loafers his granddad got him for christmas.

>>15911450
Thrift where? All the thrift stores near me look like only Amish and polygamists donate to them

How much bigger should a shirt chest be than actual chest size? and the same for shirt waist vs waist size? so that it's a good fit without looking dated.

>>15912275
ebay, anywhere used clothes wind up for sale. at some point i really want to take a ride around my local area and visit every single charity shop.

>>15912275
just google thrift stores near you. what state do you live in?

>>15912313
2inch is slim fit, 3 is normal, 4 is loose, from a tailoring guideline

>>15911439
I feel Spier & Mackay shirts are a good step up uniqlo both in fabric and fit for not a lot extra. If you're only going to buy two or three shirts(which i suggest since your size is inconsistent) you should consider them instead, but that's just my two cents.

>>15912467
Utah, hence the polygamists

>>15912652
S&M is one of my favorite brands. What you're getting for what they charge is very good value

>>15912652
Which few would you suggest?
I considered it and checked, but VAT + duties will be around 40% so not sure. Also I checked the fits and I’m pretty sure I’ll still have a ton of fabric around the waist when I tuck even with the most tailored fit. Also, I doubt I’ll be able to find any decent pants to wear with a S&M shirt (won’t be buying a jacket) unless I just live with jeans. Like I said I really don’t want to get caught in the decent midrange trap when they’ll be useless in a year or so.

>>15912902
Okay I suppose with the VAT and duty cost it's less of a good option for a temporary shirt, it's up to you whether you think it's still worth it. If you're mostly wearing jeans and chinos then oxford shirts are definitely the way to go, must-haves would be white and blue. As for excess fabric at the waist, how much are we talking about?

>>15912942
I have a 10-11” drop, so around 43” chest and 33” (max) waist - anything I buy to fit my chest will still leave a lot of room at the waist I think? I just checked their contemporary and slim fit shirt sizing and I’d end up with a minimum of a 40” shirt waist, which is still too big unless I’m wrong.

>>15912973
Get them darted and taken in at a tailor.

>off the rack
>tfw 32 inch waist and 46 inch chest

Welp. At least I look good naked.

>>15908801
I have a jacket very similar to yours. Maybe with the shoulders a bit more structured.
I like the shirt overall but the stripes on the cuffs look a bit odd to me.
It also looks like the angle is fucking with the lower part of the trousers (stickman shins on regular thighs?), but they look good.
Loafer-wise, I like when their “crown” is lower on the feet, like a female shoe, and they may be a little off color-wise, but it doesn’t really make it look bad.
Making me tempted to do a knockoff version of your fit and post here but I’m shy and have no shoes to match.

>>15913073
New trip?

>>15913073
prove it

>>15909244
Obviously people would give away there winter stuff in spring or summer, but I am sure you can find something cheap year round.

Being a bit of a gent today lol

>>15914503
Mad style!

Has cecil ever posted a sprezz fit? Why dies he take an interest in a style he doesn’t indulge in? He’s cool but a faggot for this. I wish he use his welfare to buy nice clothes as an unemployed parasite.

>>15914503
He’s hot because he’s not a 4channer

>>15914465
yeah but i like cheap and good

>>15914669
Shut the fuck up faggot

>>15914886
Hi cecil

/cecil/i;

>>15908669
SEERSUCKA

>>15914954
Looks very good here

>>15914954
Shit, you are right. I hadn’t noticed and it is gorgeous on darker tones. Someday...

>>15916044
I think seersucker in solid colors rather than stripes is extremely underrated

>>15908642
>>15908653
This

Hey Sprezz, two quick questions.

1. Is it acceptable to wear black Chelsea's with Brown chinos?

2. What colour pants or chinos should I wear for a relaxed office look with an unstructured light tan jacket?

>>15916188
I'd use brown shoes for brown pants, tan jacket would work with that combo. Black isn't bad either.

>>15916188
1. no
2. depends on the shade. Be careful with brown pants as you don't want pants to match too much to the jacket or it will look like a failed attempt at a suit. Gray is always acceptable, navy can work well too.

>>15916188
>1. Is it acceptable to wear black Chelsea's with Brown chinos?
Lighter shades of brown can work with black footwear. Brown is preferable, but black is a valid statement.

>2. What colour pants or chinos should I wear for a relaxed office look with an unstructured light tan jacket?
A darker brown, white, grey, blue, green. Use the good judgement.

>>15916444
>>15916434
>>15916450
Thanks, don't have brown boots or loafers currently so just seeing what my options were. No go on the brown in that case.

Pic related is the jacket colour, I think gray and blue are probably the options for pants I should invest in next. Thanks guys

Guys, how do you usually measure the width of jacket's lapels? Along the collar/lapel seam? Parallell to the ground?
I'm selling a suit, so I'll include the measurement method in the description anyway; just want to know what's expected.

>>15908801
get some fucking socks

>>15886392
Basé.
I love Pini Parma.

who currently dress spress?

>>15917128
Note, I'm wearing a pyjama at the moment

Noone, I see

>>15917128
I'm definitely more /tip/ today with my OCBD and loafers. My pleated high waisted pants are getting cleaned at the moment

I’m a sports jacket and jeans guy but I usually spend cheaper on jeans since my leg measurements change because of sports but I have a few questions if anyone can help.

Just how different does a 12” rise feel compared to a 10.5”? Significant? Better looking with jeans?

Thoughts on wearing women’s jeans? I check sizing of say Uniqlo tier jeans, it seems that almost every garment measurement (hip/leg/opening) is the same except for this higher rise? (I imagine the same is true for other denim brands) Would there be any other differences? Seems like a no brainier to wear women’s jeans for the rise.

>>15918210
>legs change because of sports
>still fits into women's jeans
how small are you?
Women's clothing is cut differently. Unless you are a complete twink with feminine hips they will not fit right.
Rise is something you should try to get an idea of. Feels like your pants are secure and are not falling off or exposing crack at any given moment.

>>15918221
Oh ok understood, seemed like it wouldn’t matter since they show the thigh as the same size.
32” waist, 26” thigh (widest), 42” hips so odd sizing

>>15918229
post body

>>15918221
>>15918231
I should have mentioned that they are straight cut jeans and not skinny fitting so I don’t know if they’d still be cut that differently and worth the higher rise. phoneposting atm with no pics to hand unfortunately, imagine T. rex legs

>>15918253
try them on. If online make sure they have a good return policy. Finding the right cut takes time and effort.

>>15918210
The higher rise would look more 80s, just try it out. Maybe order online, can't see you taking women's jeans and trying them on in a store.
Should you opt for something other than jeans once in a while, then pleated high rise is the way to go for these thighs.

>>15918231
I think I pull it off well

>>15919394
it's ok. get a grip of your lower abdomen though

>>15919394
>>15919453
>>15918231
This isn't me.

>>15919453
This isn't sprezz

>>15919852
of course it's not. women can't be sprezz.

is this /sprezz/ and would it translate well IRL?

>>15919869
You'd look like Saul Goodman

>>15919872
wish I got an iota of Slippin' Jimmy's charisma desu.
I actually went ahead and got this custom tailored, it's nothing fancy. now just gotta find the right shade of purple/blue shirt and a yellow tie.

When it comes to "influencers" my issue is whether or not they actually have real jobs or if they literally just post pics on instagram and give fashion advice.
There are many that own menswear stores or are related to the industry, and them dressing in suits and taking pictures isn't seen as weird. When it's just some guy like Justus Hansen who literally just posts bullshit on instagram while dressing up in a suit to go grocery shopping, then that's when it gets bad

>>15920000
Why though? He just wears stuff

>>15920552
He's fake as fuck. Not to say influencers aren't fake, but there's a difference between Carlos Domord who is creative director of his company and Luca Rubbinaci who owns his company posting fits in their suits versus Justus dressing up to give AlphaM tier advice on insta

>>15919856
>women can't be sprezz
this, but unironically

>>15920662
So, companies promoting their product are good and a guy who actually uses their product is fake?
I am blatantly trolling here, of course. In this case I get it, in clothes you can see the quality of the product more easily and of course their makers are proud to wear them. On the other hand, certain influencers sell out to sponsors, abandoning their own opinion.

>>15920778
Why?

>>15922233
women can't wear menswear idiot

>>15921618
>On the other hand, certain influencers sell out to sponsors, abandoning their own opinion
Ben Brewster comes to mind. His Instagram is literally just him shilling for sponsors and Indians eat that shit right up

what brands do you recommend?

>>15922861
>what brands do you recommend?
Deez Nuts

>>15922861
Have a look at the OP, there is a pastebin with three or so shops/brands. Feel free to expand it

whats the best wat to open up a small segment of a seam without the rest of it being able to open? looking to make my trouser cuffs button up

>>15923333
Wait a sec

I, Me !1n6WugqKa6, am a prison whore and a slut for horsecum. I eat cum from all sentient beings. I get high by snorting sand. I drink mouthwash as an alcoholic beverage. I give the best advice on /fa/. I am beautiful and intelligent. You will not bully me into gay Italian sex.

>>15923333
Thread was on page 10, so I bumped it before typing a long answer.
Say you turned the garment inside out and you can see the stitches of the seam. Before you open it, reinforce the seam by sewing back and forth over the old stitches. Do this for 1.5cm or so left and right of the part that you want to open.
This should make it easier to understand:
>----==-----==---
Here = are the parts where you sew over and the part in-between is what you want to open.

Sprezz men don’t look like this :(

>>15886392
model name?

>>15884939
why do the japanese always kill the fashion game? it's not fair

>>15924403
History of conscientious-conformity and attention to detail.

>>15924449
don’t forget the importance of upholding tradition and craftsmanship

>>15924394
No idea, it's from the Pini Parma website, maybe it's one of their glasses models.

>>15885639
Isn' t that style more akin to Milanese mafia more than Napolese?

Is slight gap (1cm or so) between chest and lapels acceptable? Or can it be tailored? I'd ask an actual tailor but lockdown.

>>15924641
New thread... repost the question there. Generally I'd say yes, but maybe your tailor has an email address?


>>15924564
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