/fa/ - Fashion

>>15802871
You forgot the link to the previous thread you numpty

How do I fight the itch that just won't go away bros?

>>15802871
watch general is one of the coziest threads as well as the fragernce one on all of 4chan

Previous thread:
>>15800598

>>15802877
I'm sorry anon, I'll do better next time

>>15802879
Calamine lotion

Asking here again since I didn't get any answers last thread
>1957 rail/speed/seamaster hands
>36 to 39mm
>3 or 4 hander
>old skin diver style domed crystal that disappears under bezel
>budget of around 1.5k but I'd rather not spend that much

Still looking for military/tool watches like this, please post any that you know of.

Fug I keep looking at lorier and baltic. I wish the lorier had sapphire and I wish the baltic had gold highlights

>MUH FINISHING
>MUH ATTENTION TO DETAIL
Meanwhile:
>date is just a shitty cutout
nice

>>15802910
stop buying microshitters. They'll never fill the void.

>>15802890
You’ve been posting this for the past few threads, why aren’t you buying it?

>>15802916
That can't be real, maybe the border fell out?

>>15802927
I'm poor so I have to do maximum research on everything I buy. If you have an extra 5k lying around to donate I'll buy it right now without thinking.

>>15802916

Can't unsee. Fuck that's horrid.

>>15802935
>I'm poor
Then why are you making luxury purchases?

I'M ABOUT TO DO IT
I'M GONNA PULL THE EFFING TRIGGER
SOMEONE TALK ME OUT OF IT FUCK

>>15802890

Glycine combat. Now fuck off you nigger.

>>15802947
do it or not you’re still going to be a massive sack of shit

>>15802947
POST IT FIRST AT LEAST

>>15802947
>>15802952
Wait fuck you better be talking about a purchase

>>15802947
Suicide isn't the answer, anon

>>15802935
>I'm poor
>I want to buy an expensive watch
And you'll always be poor, because you're a fucking idiot.

First time posting here. Looking for something elegant 80s business, preferably Japanese around the $500 mark. Thanks!

>>15802985
MUDMAN

>>15802919
I haven't even boughten one micro shitter. I've been looking at baltic on and off for almost a year.

>>15802988
then dont
baltic is trash and I would make fun of you if I saw you wearing it irl

thirdie poorfag bumping

>>15802977
>>15802945
>ass burger preps don’t understand the concept of window shopping
he was probably never gonna buy it, lighten up autists

>>15802989
How mature and non autistic of you to do.

>>15802985
Seiko King Quartz - "Penis Watch"

>>15802996
>quartz
Grow up.

>>15802977
>>15802945
I mean, I have the money for one, I just don't have the money for 10 other similar watches so I can try them all out and compare them and then flip them and all the other shit people on the forums do. Is that so hard to understand?

>>15802998
Cry more - the 80s was the age of quartz.

Explore my asshole anons

>>15802871
Saw some dude with what looked like a Submariner. I asked him about his watch and he showed me it's an Invictus. I fucking cringed into the next dimension when he showed me that. He thought it was so cool, and I pretended to play along, but the entire time I was thinking how gay it was that people wear Subby clones and are so oblivious.
Meanwhile, my boss is wearing Omega and I see other dudes with Breitling, Omega and Rolex all the time.

>>15802916
Looks shooped

>>15803034
Glad to know snobbery isn't limited to the English speaking world, huh.

>>15803027
Are you a Kabbalah practitioner?

>apple watch
copeland why

>>15802871
>Christmas

thanks for the proper name of tge holiday. we all remeber when the thanksgiving thread was fucked up with a red dit name

>>15803056
Christmas, New Year's and my mum's birthday are literally the only days I celebrate.
Fuck all these new faggoty International XYZ Days that mean absolutely nothing.

Big dialed watches look so dumb

>>15802951
>>15802952
>>15802961
>>15802968
I pulled the trigger.

>>15802992
Honestly I really fuckin' like this.

seiko kinetic
nice

>>15803068
On?

>>15802916
>>15802932
>>15802943
>>15803035
wtf is this schizo posting?

Some of the most desirable watches in the world have "just a shitty cutout" for the date.

Friendly reminder that cyclopses are for boomers

>>15803137
A Seamaster Pro.

>>15803142
Which one?

>>15802992
>>15803095
It's a fake bros, at a glance no small "u" under resist and shadows under the numbers are a dead give away.

>>15803139
This Patek is literally beveled you dip. Look closer.

>>15802992
yessss very nice
bumping with my seiko

>>15803152
Blue dial.

>An interesting thing about the Big Date complication in this Ronda caliber 519 is that the date does not flip to 01 after day 31. It keeps going to 39, then flips to 00, then to 01. This will require you to set the date every month, and not just on 31 day months.

What the fuck is their problem? How can anyone fuck up a datewheel so bad.

Aquis
65
or Big crown pointer

>>15803176
Pointer

>>15803176
I like the look of the Aquis Great Barrier Reef II.
Might be a bit too thick for most people though.

>>15803179
III*

>>15803141
Not even for boomers, just ugly and a bad idea. The seconds and minute hand literally pass through it regularly and it looks like absolute aids.

>>15803179
I'm looking for a smaller watch so I think I'll go with >>15803178
thanks boys

liking my microbrand shitter

>>15802916
>>15802932
>>15802943
>>15803035
>>15803139
https://www.grand-seiko.com/us-en/collections/sbge255g
The date window itself is fine. It's supposed to look like a dial marker, and it kind of does. Fancy border would've made it stand out too much.
What really bothers me is why didn't they put it at 3:00 instead of 4:00.

Any webstores that sort watches by movement grade?

>>15803056
>proper name of the holiday
>good goy doesn't know it's a rebranded Yule with 0 basis in their sand book
just leave this website, npc

>>15803157
>beveled
The pattern stops half a mm before the window yes lol.
"Beveled" he says.

Anyway, have another.

>>15803157
Would you call this beveled too?

>>15803202
>developed from NH35
You mean they changed the rotors and added perlage, no info on actual stats or grades of calibers used.
>500-600 a piece
Their kickstarter was 800k, company created by a finance student, marketing manager, photographer and lawyer. Zero horological background.

>website full of nice pictures and the whole buzzword dictionary:
>every single
>hand crafted
>local artisans
>best materials
>secular tradition
>unparalelled look
>peculiar patina
>sustainable luxury

Smells of a scam, but you do you.

>>15803213
>it's a rebranded Yule with 0 basis in their sand book

>>15803243
based good goy dabbing on the native europeans, now if you only adopt a refugee with your wife ande celebrate all the christian civnat holidays

>>15803262
Catholicism has been the mainstay in my country for 1500 years, you pleb.
Pic related.

>>15803221
>>15803226
You're either blind or dishonest. In the former, please do yourself a favor and adopt patience and a more thorough examination before you embarrass yourself. In the latter, this conversation is over.

>>15803153
op here, i think you're mistaking it with original f91w this one i'm wearing is the variant of f91w i believe all the f91wm models doesn't have letter 'u' under 'resist' and the shadow is just bad angle cause of direct sunlight i guess but whatever i looked up on youtube reviewing this watch all are very similar as mine so i'm still loving it

>>15803268
Nice vintage version of the watch I posted, anon.

Also, since you didn't seem to see the other images, let me reiterate.

>>15803275
It's the same model and my comment was reserved for the picture. I'm not interested in engaging in your strawman.

>>15802889
does such a watch exist? like modern

maybe a zodiac sea wolf/longines legend diver/helson homage

>>15803153
i think only the base f91w has the "u"

all of these F-91WM-3A dont have it, even on casio's website

>>15802871
> Your budget
$500
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
"Blingy" everyday watch (think tissot gentleman, Datejust, Longines Conquest) with lume
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
Automatic
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
200m, sapphire crystal, high polish
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
Bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size
38-41mm

>>15803286
>5711 and 3700
>"it's the same bru"

lmao

>strawman
This entire discussion is about date windows simply being cut out.
As I showed you, it's a style choice seen in everything from Patek's high horology to Rolex's luxury sports watches.

reminder to also buy anime watches or else youre not a real watchman

>>15802889
https://www.lorierwatches.com/collections/watches

>broad-arrow hands
>39mm
>3 hands
>domed mineral
>$500

>>15803335
Who is the TGV or JOMW of anime watches?

>>15803335
that watch is $800 btw
SZER065

>>15803335
>paying for fateshit

>>15803323
Maybe try some of the hamilton Jazzmasters on Jomashop. There are a few on bracelet <$500 depends on how you feel about the style.

thoughts on meteorite dials?

>>15803328
Yes, it is the same as far as the date windows is concerned. It is, to correct myself, chiseled (the inverse of beveled). I don't really know what you are trying to prove and to whom, but please, find peace.
>>15803314
>>15803274
It's possible I'm mistaken about this one. The printing does look very good and the resin case solid. I'm just on edge because I saw a recent eBay listing that sold 1000s of obviously fake F91w pieces.

>>15803351
>Yes, it is the same as far as the date windows is concerned
It's really not.

And stop trying to change the discussion, this is about date windows being simply cut out.
As I showed you, the likes of Patek and Rolex do it too.

>>15803349

>>15803274
>>15803314
Mine if somebody cares. Should I get polywatch to fix the scratch?
>>15803354
The chisel is right there. You're disingenuous at this point. And again, I'm not participating in the discussion if they're nice or not, you just provided a poor example, and you'll have to learn to deal with this part of your life.

>>15803361
>when polywatch costs more than the watch itself
just use toothpaste desu. the normal kind.

>>15803356
>>15803349
modded seiko
flamed meteorite

>>15803361
>The chisel is right there
On the 5711 there's hardly any bevel to speak of.
On the 3700 the bevel pretty pronounced.

And why do you keep latching on to the Nautilus?
This was just an example, and I showed you two other very clear examples of Patek and Rolex clearly having "simply cut out" date windows.
See pic again, since you apparently still haven't looked at it.

>>15803349
I think meteor dials rust incredibly easily so I would only ever get them on divers. They look really cool.

>>15803366
Not the guy you're arguing with but if you're having an autistic meltdown over unframed date windows you need to calm. The fuck down. They suit the styles of the watches you're posting. And the date windows are done well. They aren't exactly stamped out with an office hole punch. The finishing lies in the edges looking smooth and polished. Anyone can slap a cheap date window frame on to cover up the shitty cut out job they did. Seiko does that on some of their seiko5

>>15803373
I'm the guy you're replying to, and I'm arguing that sometimes watchmakers choose not to frame the date window. Be it GS, Rolex, Patek, ... they all do it on some of their models.

This was my first post itt: >>15803139

>>15803377
That's my bad then i clicked the wrong post i meant to reply to the guy who started
>>15802916 meltdown

id help pls lads

no info on back, just a personal inscription, was gifted to my grandfather in 1940.

>>15803386

better pic

>>15803386
get a new strap buddy
open the caseback and see if you are able
its probably some ancient 15 jewel thing

>>15803388
>>15803386
It could just be the 30s-40s equivalent of a microbrand shitter. There were many such watches back in the day that were put out by smaller companies that probably no longer exist anymore. Real Swiss parts, movements, etc. but assembled elsewhere, but this was just enough for the SWISS MADE qualification. And that design was relatively common.

Think the Laco is going out, waiting on the Stowa Marine and Vario.

Any recommendations for a blue dial watch?

>>15803388
theres something very wrong with the dial allignment here, also nice digits

wtf is wrong with rolex fags
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills

>>15803393
Get a diver to offset the samey look of your collection.

>>15803401
>3 different kinds of indices/numerals
>arrow doesnt even point the right way
retard watch that failed flieger school

Perfection

>>15803411
that looks like shit, is it fake?

>>15802889
Lorier Falcon

>>15803401
I like that Rolex made the logo and hands green so you can spot retards from long distances.

>>15803412
No, that's what Rolexes looked like in the 80s-90s.
They were always very basically made and finished.

>>15803401
The Air King is probably their least popular model but enough people do like it for them to continue making it. It's a niche in the market and Rolex sell to it. Just like Invicta do.

>>15803417
It's a trash watch literally cobbled together from scraps that they sell to retards who will buy anything with a crown on it.

>>15803416
It's only the last couple decades Rolex has become a "brand" for the nouveau rich and niggers to consuuuuuume. It's the Jordans of watches.

>>15803422
But Rolex intentionally made themselves that way.

>>15803306
Zodiac is still around, but I don’t know any copies

>>15803424
And? We all know R*lex sucks

>>15803422
Don't forget that the 70s-80s for instance were literally a golden age for Rolex.
They survived the quartz crisis by rebranding mechanical watches as "luxury" by slapping them in large (for the time) gaudy gold cases and bracelets.

>>15803422
but they make really good watches

>>15803419
So what? Rolex's goal is to make a profit and they do with the Air King. If you don't like it then no one is forcing you to buy it.

>>15803434
That's true, no point in going to a Rolex dealer since there's no inventory. So they can't force me into anything.

The most egregious thing Rolex ever did was dramatically and suddenly raising the price of all their watches to push them as a luxury product and immediately putting them out of reach of the working class people who had been wearing them for years. This then drove up the price of Rolex watches on the secondhand market until it was almost at parity with the new stuff, which Rolex then used as an excuse to push up the prices even higher, and now we're at where we're at now.
Rolex basically fucked all their customers in the ass to chase the upscale market who see it more as a status symbol or investment rather than an actual timekeeping instrument.

>>15803432
they make great watches but a certain part of /wt/ overlooks that fact because they can't afford Rolex and they are Swiss.

*keeps time like shit*

>>15803442
Nobody thinks Rolex makes shit watches. The issue is that they charge way too much for their watches and their bullshit drives up the price of watches in general. Rolexs would be fine at $2000 but they that Air King for instance is something like 6-7k which is complete madness.

>>15803401
mental gymnastics

>>15803448
a couple of threads ago some anon said there was a slow-mo video comparison between this and a seagull and the seagull won
i wonder how true that is

>>15803176
step up to Tudor

>>15803451
Basic economics was say that Rolex watches are actually under priced at retail and exceptional value. The reason that is true is because their higher-than-retail grey market prices are stable and many people buy them at those prices.

>>15803462
Still artificial price fixing on Rolex's part, just like the diamond market.

>>15803462
OK retard, the point is nobody is saying Rolex sucks because they make shit watches so you are talking out of your ass and now you're changing the argument because you're a fucking faggot who was always coming from false pretenses.

>>15803462
You could argue they’re underpriced economically speaking but “excellent value?” Come on. Their prices continue to rise, you can no longer buy anything decent from the AD without sucking $20k worth of cock, and their biggest innovation of the last several years was to continue increasing their already bloated case sizes by 1mm.

Rolex is just not worth the headache.

>>15803466
Not sure how it's artificial.

Rolex makes a huge amount of watches every year, a million or so.
The holy trinity on the other hand make like 120k watches every year between the three of them.
So it's not like Rolex are trying to keep supply down, it's actually demand that's so astronomical.

>>15803391
>but this was just enough for the SWISS MADE qualification

Does anybody know the difference between swiss and swiss made?, I have a vintage watch (probably from the 50's) and it only says swiss.

When is the New Speedmaster coming out?

>>15803466
Not the same thing. You have a lot more choices with watches than diamonds.

>>15803472
They are worth whatever people are willing to pay for them and that seems to be more than Rolex charge.

>>15803448
*pozzes ur neghole*

>>15803479
It's a con so you won't go used, that way they can get you into an AD and buying the shitters so you can build up to the list for your "grail"

>>15803481
what the fuck

>>15803055
Won't get damaged drumming

>>15803479
>They are worth whatever people are willing to pay for them and that seems to be more than Rolex charge
Yeah I took econ 101, you’re missing the point. Rolex makes a great product at MSRP. The problem is you have to jump through too many hoops to get them at MSRP.
>>15803473
Not the guy you replied to. I don’t think it’s some massive conspiracy by Rolex headquarters to throttle supply, but I do honestly believe there is a lot of fuckery going on at the AD level to carefully control who gets watches. That makes sense for a relatively low production manufacturer like Patek who have a carefully curated brand image and make extremely high end watches. Rolex however is not that at all. They make very good mass produced watches.

I don’t know how far this Rolex fervor will go. I like them and have an old 36mm Datejust but I won’t be purchasing a Rolex until this nonsense goes away. It boggles my mind that people will buy dogshit like AirKings and Cellinis to get put on a list for a sub when you could walk into any number of different boutiques and buy a vastly more interesting and well crafted watch for the same money.

>>15803475
I am not a super fucking turbo nerd watch enthusiast so I cannot tell you down to exact details but basically there are 3 Swiss designations that pop up, SWISS, SWISS MADE, and SWISS PARTS
>SWISS MADE
The one people are most familiar with, however this only started being used in the 1970s. This means that a certain amount of the watch's development, parts, and assembly had to be carried out in Switzerland. However, the amount and what constitutes valid Swiss construction has changed over time. But this is probably the highest standard for having your watch actually be Swiss since a specific amount of the watch had to have been made in Switzerland.
>SWISS PARTS
Means the movement or majority of the parts are Swiss but they were assembled elsewhere. There are some vintage pocketwatches that therefore say things like "Swiss Parts, Assembled in Orient." Generally if a Swiss national did not physically aid in the assembly of the watch, this is what was put on there.
>SWISS
This is, in practice, SWISS MADE before there was such a thing as SWISS MADE and implies that the watch was at least assembled in Switzerland using some Swiss parts, labor, and development, but the peculiarities are not known as there were never any official guidelines. This is a designation made to enforce a level of quality among Swiss watches (it had to be, otherwise SWISS PARTS would not be a thing, the existence of SWISS PARTS denotes a conscious difference and tiering) but it could mean that 90% of the watch is Chinese except the dial and some parts of the movement and then a Swiss guy assembled it all, or it could mean 90% of the watch is Swiss and a Swiss guy put it together, who knows.

>>15803481
>MASTER CHRONOMETER
>MASTER
uh-oh

>>15803491
swiss made means nothing now
brands still put SWISS MADE on their ronda quartz watches with the $2 movement made entirely in thailand
its all bullshit

>>15803498
Yes they are all legal jewing to make the least amount of the watch possible in Switzerland
But that's what these terms are supposed to mean

>>15803349
sneedeorite dials

>>15803481
god omega is such shit

Omega 300, good watch for the cash

>>15803455
>a couple of threads ago some anon said there was a slow-mo video comparison between this and a seagull and the seagull won
>i wonder how true that is

I was that anon, couldn't find the comparison video, but it was like that, the subdial skipped and felt less smooth than the seagull movement, don't know if that was just a problem from that watch or just a general thing about the speedy, but was funny seeing in slow mo the seagull destroying the speedmaster, looked like the reverse videos shown by elititsts showing the superior swiss watchmaship vs aliexpress crap watches.

>>15803510
>being a fat white faggot with tattoos
Yes, a swatch is a good watch for you.

WHY TUDOR? WHY DID YOU PURPOSELY RUIN THE MONTE CARLO REISSUE? DO YOU REALLY THINK IT'S GONNA HURT DAYTONA SALES? FUCK YOU

>>15803515
n e v e r
o u t s h i n e
t h e
m a s t e r

>>15803491
>>SWISS MADE
>The one people are most familiar with, however this only started being used in the 1970s. This means that a certain amount of the watch's development, parts, and assembly had to be carried out in Switzerland. However, the amount and what constitutes valid Swiss construction has changed over time. But this is probably the highest standard for having your watch actually be Swiss since a specific amount of the watch had to have been made in Switzerland.


I guess that applies to my watch, as far I know the movement is an ébauche, around 70% of the movement was sold to the brand and then they added the scapement wheel and other piece I think,mine was probably assembled in France. The movement is reliable and known, and considering its age I don't doubt that the quality is pretty solid considering modern times and the swiss made scummy marketing, maybe some pieces were not swiss, but were probably done in some part of Europe.

>>15803484
Finally got the bracelet sized up, i didn't have to use a dremel or anything, the non screw "rivets" are press fit so i was able to pop one apart and get an extra link off. Shouldn't be necessary for non wristlets.
I'm pretty happy with this, the finishing is quite nice for $230 and it's been keeping -6 seconds a day so far.

>>15803490
>I do honestly believe there is a lot of fuckery going on at the AD level to carefully control who gets watches
That's only natural if demand is indeed so much greater than supply.

And it doesn't seem like Rolex is throttling supply, seeing how they shit out a million watches every year.
Unless there's some fuckery in the reported numbers or something.

It just looks like a ton of people keep drinking the Rolex kool-aid.
And there is merit to Rolex; they have the best timing accuracy by far out of any large watchmaker out there, and their designs are iconic.
But personally, I buy expensive luxury watches for the craft, so I'm not interested in Rolex at all.

>>15803401
I'd buy one and replace the dial with a normal explorer 1.

>>15803533
>And it doesn't seem like Rolex is throttling supply,
The ADs do that
If they like you or you pay in cash suddenly the waitlist isn't such a big deal and you're leaping ahead of it.... hmmmmm...

>>15803540
Again, that's very normal if demand is so much greater than supply.

Obviously they're going to reserve the really coveted watches for people who benefit Rolex and their ADs more.

>>15802890
https://www.bertucciwatches.com/Bertucci/WATCHES.html

>>15802890
Check out Swiss Precimax they are shitters but they have the look

Good morning all

>>15803481
So

>>15803411
Looks like a fake

>>15802890
Deepblue DAYNIGHT MIL T100

I'm sad that they got rid of this logo.

Cheap af but I got this, should arrive before Christmas.

>>15803202
This is a nice watch

>>15802890
Revue Thommen
Xlarge Pioneer Chrono
I see a few going for $999 on jomashop but not the pvd black dial unfortunately

>>15803401
The crime here is that the cardinal indices are in steel, not matching up with the other points of the dial. It just pops out in the worst way.

>>15803533
>they have the best timing accuracy by far out of any large watchmaker out there
?

why dont they just put the cyclops eye inside the watch?

>>15803673
-2/+2 seconds per day is the guarantee.

That's pretty insane.
That's a lot better even than +4/-0
No large watch brand offers this guarantee.

>>15803678
How is the possibility of minus better in any way?
-0/+8 would still be better than -2/+2

>>15803681
So +2/-2 is a spread of 4 seconds.
And +4/-0 is the same spread of 4 seconds.

However, with +4 your watch can be 3 or 4 seconds fast.
With +2/-2 your watch can only be off by 2 seconds every day.

>>15803683
But hacking seconds means a fast watch is a neglible issue, while a slow one is an inconvenience.

>>15803688
You're rather have 4 seconds fast per day than 2 seconds slow per day?
And hacking has nothing to do with it, really.

>>15803689
Of course I would, and hacking is exactly the core of it.
With a watch that’s never slow, you never have to set the time outside of winter/summer time change.

>>15803692
I have no idea what you're saying lmao

>>15803694
What he's trying to say is that if a watch is running fast you can just stop it by pulling out the crown, if it has hacking, and then wait until it's correct again. However if it runs slow you have to move the minute hand and also set the second hand.

>>15803695
This seems like a real non-issue if the watch is hypothetically only 2 seconds slow per day so you only have to adjust it once a month, if that

>>15803694
If your watch is consistently 4 seconds fast every day, you only have to pull out the crown until the seconds hand stops and wait four seconds and then push it back in.

If it’s consistently two seconds slow, you have to set the hour and minute hands to get the correct time.

If you eliminate the possibility of the watch being slow, you eliminate the need to set the time, at least for an automatic that you wear regularly enough that it doesn’t stop

>>15803698
Welcome to the world of watches. The home of autistics.

>>15803698
Minus two seconds is not a big issue, but given the choice, being fast is still better.

>>15803401
I like that explorer 1 meets field watch dial. I get why people dislike that watch, but if you're into field watches, the current air king is cool.

>>15803695
That's what I thought, but then he said "With a watch that’s never slow, you never have to set the time outside of winter/summer time change."

And this negligible convenience has nothing to do with the fact that +4 is obviously worse in terms of accuracy than -2

>>15803481
I wanna see archie scream "Omega speedmaster human on the fucking moon"

>>15803515
This, I love the cyclops at 6.

I have never bothered to set a mechanical watch to the exact second, and I certainly have never bothered to check if it is a few seconds fast or slow days later. What the fuck is wrong with you people? It’s totally irrelevant unless you’re wearing a Vostok that is gaining a minute a day.

Where can I get an affordable version of pic related?
As beautiful as it looks, I can't afford a £1000 watch

>>15803699
>If your watch is consistently 4 seconds fast every day, you only have to pull out the crown until the seconds hand stops and wait four seconds and then push it back in.
And you don't consider this "setting the time"?

>>15803704
But does it make up for 2x worse accuracy?

Anyway, I don't really know of any watch manufacturer who promises -0, so they all risk going slow.
Rolex is the absolute king of accuracy standards.

>>15803723
Omega METAS is -0/+5

>>15803722
orient bambino

>>15803726
So if you like convenience, that's your watch.
But the accuracy spread is worse than Rolex (5 seconds vs 4 secons), and the potential inaccuracy over time is a lot worse than Rolex.

-2 per day for 31 days: 62 seconds off
+5 for 31 days: 155 seconds off

I don't even want to buy any Rolex, ever, but the facts is the facts.

>>15803530
this endlinks are horrid
black rehaut looks weird
bezel is off but that might be a parallax effect
little to no AR on that crystal
Why do you idiots keep falling for chinkshit?

>>15803716
Seriously, as long as it's not over +/- 10s a day I'm happy. I only demand under 4s if the watch is 5k or over

>>15803731
The problem is that sometimes Rolex leave the factory and are off by 5 or 10 seconds. Their QC is not as great as they say, which begs the question, where does the money go?

>>15803738
>The problem is that sometimes Rolex leave the factory and are off by 5 or 10 seconds. Their QC is not as great as they say
Well that would be shitty.
Shit happens, but I'm pretty sure these would be extremely rare cases.

>>15803738
They make a million watches a year. Doesn't matter how good their QC is, it's impossible for each one to be perfect.

>>15803707
>I get why people dislike that watch, but if you're into field watches, the current air king is cool.
It looks like fucking shit from a butt.
It's a field watch that goes from 5-10-15 to 3. What kind of an absolute joke is that? Look at the lume shot too. If a microbrand put out a watch like this, it would be mocked across the internet.at $300 so there is no way in hell this is acceptable at $7000. There are so many better options for a field watch than this indefensible TRASH.

>>15803730
not as clean but i'll check them out, cheers anon

>>15803738
>where does the money go?
Marketing

>>15803722
PerpetuaL SC-03
ST17
$200

Hamilton Khaki Navy Pioneer
ETA
$750

>>15803767

Not involved in this autist debate but this cope / goal post moving is epic >>15803738

>>15803095
f91w does look better in olive drab than black, I would agree

>>15803788
I just want to point out that I am the guy who argued for fast over slow and I did not make that post, which indeed is goalpost moving and irrelevant to the discussion.

>>15803674
Probably just convention. Vostok puts it inside.

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>>15803800
Can anyone recommend me a watch that looks like this but doesn't have hamilton branding? Thanks

/wt/ wishes they can be this cool with their watch

>>15803814
Please. Is there a watch that looks like pic related that doesn't cost $700

>>15803722

At the bottom of the price range, there's a range of Citizen models starting with "NH8350" that have that general look, that you can usually find for under/around $100 on ebay. I'm happy with the one I have.

>>15803823
Hello please answer me i need a watch that looks like this one

>want to buy the no date Damasko 3 hand
>in house movement
Why?
Though, I don't think I can justify it given my 214270 are both sterile sport watch designs

>>15803202
the colors all work together. the dark brown leather with the dark grey dial blends together; a true black would clash imo. the army green goes with both and smooths the transition even more.
I basically hate divers but watches (and everything else) seldom seem to get colors dialed-in well, or just completely wrong, nice to see some thought there.
the text and indices look good, too. everything adds up.
hopefully the movement isn't shit but I don't know beyond what gets memed here.

>>15803731
If you want to put things this way, just use quartz. It shits on any mechanical watch from an 'everyday convenience' point of view.
In the world of mechanical watches, however, precision is valued much more than accuracy i.e. a watch that constantly gains +3 sec/day is considered to be superior to a watch that goes -1 then +1 the other day.
So what matters is deviation which is 4 sec for Rolex and 5 sec for Omega - both are superb actually - but the fact that Omega never goes late makes it more predictble which is worth the 1 second difference from some point of view.
Btw GS VFA guarantues -1/+3 secs per day, and PP Tourbillion is -1/+2, so Rolex is not untouchable in this regard no matter how you slice it (though yes those are much more expencive watches).
Also Longines and GP used to sell observatory chronometers guaranteed to be accurate to within a minute a month back in the 60's.

The cope.

>>15803802
>>15803826
just sand it off.

>>15803722
Tissot Le Locle, its about half as much with a similar aesthetic.

>>15803802
Get an original pulsar
>>15803818

>>15803388
it sure is neat, but lol the case is like the door frames in my apartment: the foundation shifted and they're all crooked.
it's kind of charming, though.
having it engraved to your grand dad is incredibly based, though. I wear my great-uncle's navy ring that was engraved to him from his dad. I wish it was my grandfather's, I wasn't close with his brother or their dad but it is still a cool family connection that reminds me of him by proxy.

>>15803393
the laco looks ten times better than the stowa marine. I don't know why you bought the stowa if you had that laco already. I know you just got the stowa, but you're getting rid of the wrong watch imo.

>>15803401
no, you're right. the new air king sucks dick.

>>15803802
Yema LED is pretty similar

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>>15803730
>too big for the wrist in the official photo
smdhtbhfamily

>>15803802
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>>15804000
these kind of watches look great, but they don't constantly display, correct?
you have to hit a button and the display comes on for a short while?

>>15804015
Yes, it is objectively worse technology

>>15804017
fuuuuck.
I want one but fuck that bullshit

>>15804020
Unless you want to change batteries every month, you don't want the numbers being shown all the time.

>>15804002
I doubt it's a photo from Orient, it's a real mess
>straggly strand of hair on cuff
>time set so the hour hand is hidden
>random junk in the background
>strap keeper visible
>far too big for the wrist it's on

>>15804021
yeah, I get that, but I mean why even bother making something that doesn't constantly display? either figure out new tech to make it right or just don't make it. both battery tech and led tech is better now than when the OG models came out, I was hoping they'd gotten past the push- button baloney.

>>15804023
ah yes. I didn't process the fucking battery charger and teddy bear in the soft focus, lol.
still, aren't the bambinos 40 or 41?

>>15803730
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>>15804023
bambino is an iq test
real men will get the smaller 36mm ladies version
thats the far better "dress watch"

>>15804041
wisdom

>>15803802
G. Gerlach Kosmonauta.

>>15804015

I think the Hamilton uses some sort of new tech allows the display to stay on in a dim state until you hit the button and it lights up. But’s it’s kind of cheating and not real old school LEDs.

I'm wearing my based Gold Seiko today.

>>15803404
I have a 300m

>>15803980
You are probably, I do like the laco more in many ways but 42mm is very big on my 6.7inch wrist. I think the Stowa will look better in person.

just ordered my first gshock discounted for £90
fourth watch so early days

>>15804107
Not him but I like the Stowa more.
did they give you that swiss army knife as a free gift?

>>15804107
>42mm
oh, ok. that's unfortunate but yeah it makes more sense now.

>>15803856
>If you want to put things this way, just use quartz.
The idea of mechanical watches is still to be timekeepers; the pursuit is still accuracy.
That's why they have things like full balance bridges, silicon hairsprings, regulators, MEMS, etc.

Just remember it's not 'practical' accuracy, but 'nifty' accuracy.

>>15803722
find some chinkshitter automatic watch on aliexpress because this thing is a void of design

>>15804110
You can't add it into your basket! €0.00 :)

>>15804119
I have a flat wrist and its honestly doable but when I see it in the mirror it looks like a fashion watch due to the size and it annoys the shit out of me.

>>15803625
Should've ordered this one instead - it's almost identical, but has mineral glass instead of acrylic.

>>15804129
They all keep time.
But when it comes down to which watch does it better - aspects other than sheer accuracy are valued no less.

>>15804204
In the end, the more accurate the mechanical watches are the better/more impressive.

>tfw starting out hating rolex but now love them

>>15804206
Not really.
Imagine a COSC watch with -4/+6 spec and no other realiable timekeeper to check its perforamnce daily. After 10 days you know that your watch is somewhere between -40 and +60 seconds, but you have no idea where exactly not for the 10th day, not for any other day before or after.
Now imagine a watch that goes +20 sec for every single day. Now with that watch you know the exact time for every day (just subtract 20*n passed days sec). However after 10 days it will be 200 seconds off if you don't reset it.
So according to >>15803731 and "accuracy uber alles" logic watch no1 is superior. Whereas in reality watch no2 is MUCH better and requires better technologies and adjustment to create.

Whats the best CasioOak colorway?

>>15804247
Anon, the spec applies to all watches.
Individual watches will typically lose/gain roughly the same every day.

>>15804247
Also, a large part of accurizing watches is making them stay as consistent as possible day to day.

A watch that loses/gains a large amount of seconds per day very consistently is extremely easy to adjust to be very accurate.

>>15804251
>utilitarianfag
white/black
>actual underrated semi fashion choice
yellow
>tacticool larp
blackout
>"uhh im only buying this because everything else is sold out"
red

Do there exist any 36mm Dress/Sports watch hybrids other than the Explorer (1)14270 and the Black Bay 36?

>>15804251
The best colorways you have there are the blue/purple and the black one with white indices on the furthest right top row. The yellow one also looks very nice. If you want tacticool, the olive green or camo bezel ones are actually very good looking and do a good job of expressing what mood they are going for. There is also a new colorway you do not have there, which is gray, and it is fantastic.

>>15804270
longines legend diver
even comes on milanese

>>15804251
The christmas/roulette/retro colorway is pretty snazzy looking

>>15804247
>Not having a regulateur
Do you care about watches and do not have anything to compare and synchronize?

>>15804251
Yellow, you must be alpha male to wear it without caring about others opinions.

>>15804275
>inner rotating bezel
I dig this anon, good suggestion

>>15804273
I'm kind of torn between the grey and yellow ones myself.

>>15803639
What the hell is this brand, this actually looks pretty good.

>>15804280
The gray one just looks very nice all around, like you could wear it anywhere and it's got a cheeky style to it, and it's the one I'm thinking of getting myself. But the yellow has tons of character, it's much more youthful and bold.

>>15804283
The yellow is hi-viz in a good way, like what you'd wanna wear while cycling or hunting or something.

>>15804288
Yeah I really like the yellow. I don't want to end up getting both but they're both great in different ways.

>>15804276
Looks like the black power version to me

>>15804256
Yes and no.
The way the watch performs on a wrist depends on wearing circumstances and on positional deviations - another aspect of a movement valued no less than the accuracy itself.
>>15804267
Consistency is a form of precision, which is what I'm talking about.
Nothing is more consistent than a watch with 0 sec deviation.
Rolex consistency is 4 seconds worse. Also it is very easy to adjust a watch that you know always goes +20 sec/day - just hack it for that amount of time daily.
>>15804277
>Do you care about watches and do not have anything to compare and synchronize?
I don't think you got the point of the post.

>>15804298
>The way the watch performs on a wrist depends on wearing circumstances and on positional deviations
Yes, but the daily variances are not supposed to swing within the spec.
That's not what the spec is for.

>Consistency is a form of precision, which is what I'm talking about.
That's what we're both talking about.

>Rolex consistency is 4 seconds worse.
Again, you misunderstand the accuracy spec.

>>15803481
this cant be real

>>15802890
No one in the military wears watches like this, pretty much all tier 2 team guys I met wore either some cheap g-shock or f91w. One german guy was the exception and he wore a garmin foretrex

>>15804336
Really this

>>15804169
what's the penis head shaped thing do?

>>15804311
>Yes, but the daily variances are not supposed to swing within the spec.
Yes they are.
I'm not saying that the watch is supposed to go +6 secs on the first day then -4 on the second, but COSC still allows pretty significant daily deviations:
https://www.cosc.swiss/en/certification/mechanical-movements

>Again, you misunderstand the accuracy spec.
I admit I haven't seen the full description of Superlative Chronometer Certification spec, but I do believe that it allows 4 sec of deviation.
You can convince me otherwise if you actually show me the real data.

>>15802890
I love the look of their divers, but why the hell are they 18mm thick? That’s Seiko Tuna levels of thick. Breitling should make a slimmer version, by sacrificing their 3,000m of WR, and making it more reasonable 500m which allows for a lower profile.

>>15804341
Somebody in boot got grilled for wearing a Seiko diver

>>15804370
Every mechanical watch will have deviating accuracy day to day, depending on use etc.

>>15804176
it looks ok out of context but yeah 42 is giant for a thin-cased watch

>>15804381
Yes, but that's what we are talking about.
The less the deviation, the better the movement.
Whereas the original point I argued against was "accuracy is all that matters".
Also pic related was real observatory chronometer.

>>15804369
Press caseback remover.

>>15804387
>The less the deviation, the better the movement.
Maybe.
A watch that has deviation will often compensate for itself over time.
If it loses 1 second one day, and gains 1 second the next (depending on use), it evens out.
It's not unheard of for mechanical watches to come out at +0/-0 over the course of a month because of this.

>the original point I argued against was "accuracy is all that matters".
So you're fighting a strawman, got it.

>>15804251
Black & grey.

>>15804336
Ok, we're talking about the aesthetic though.

>>15804412
When I see watches with that aesthetic all I think is they are some big LARPing faggot
If you want to LARP as an actual army man your best bet is just a G-Shock and, maybe if you want to be "classy," this >>15804251 camo one looks like something a military guy would wear.

>>15804416
>When I see watches with that aesthetic all I think is they are some big LARPing faggot
Well yeah no shit? Just like you LARP a spaceman with the Sneedmaster, James Bond with the James Bond (tm) Submariner NATO (c) strap etc. Watches are a big LARP if you haven't noticed by now. So why take issue with this one, you one of those stolen valor tards who demand to be thanked for their service?

>>15804423
Because you keep talking about some military aesthetic that does not exist, since actual military guys don't wear that watch. Spacemen actually wear, or wore, Speedmasters. James Bond actually wore the Submariner. Soldiers don't wear Breitling chronos or whatever the fuck. You are the biggest LARPer of all and it's not even a good LARP

>>15804428
It's the platonic ideal of the military aesthetic pleb.

>>15802890
breitling are gay

>>15804443
not him but the cope is palpable

>>15804279
They are a type of compressor styled case design. Neat idea, a bit complicated if you want to change the dial reading under water.

For that, see pic related.

>>15804275
I have seen a blue/black transition styled dial on the webs before. Neat stuff.

>>15804392
stowa uses press casebacks? jesus christ, that's timex tier

>>15804489
I don't think so, but I can read Victorinox on the blade, and Victorinox has a model with that opener, so it makes sense as a gift from Stowa, better than an average knife with average tools, you get a watch related knife.

rolexbros....

Is that Patek phillipe on Belle Delphine's bf? Saw it on her bj video.

>>15804519
Fuck no. It's some mall-tier shitter.

>>15804506
>"here's a knife with our logo on it that you can't use on our watches, but hey, it's a watch-RELATED knife. for watches that are inferior to ours."
ayyy lmao

>>15804519
>knew it was a screenshot
>still clicked on the play button
I am NGMI

>>15803814
why is he such a massive poofter?

>>15804519
>Delphine's bf? Saw it on her bj video.
I kne she recently started showing a bit more, but didn't know she started doing the good stuff, thanks fellow coomerbro.

>>15804519
It's a Rotary

>>15803814
Nice mask, does anyone have a link to it please?

>>15802996
I'm liking this.

The Speedmaster is pozzed. What should replace it?

>>15804574
Navitimer clearly (pic mildly unrelated)

>>15802890
Why would anyone get a real Breitling when these are $330 and completely identical?

https://www.hontwatch.to/produit/breitling-avenger-blackbird-44mm-dlc-ti-ny-black-a2824/

>>15804574
Whatever chrono has a lemania 1873 in it.

>>15804590
you posted scam site, retard
at least post trusted dealers next time

>>15804601
>you posted scam site, retard
How can you tell?

>>15804559
pepper your angus for disappointment

>>15804629
>How can you tell?
looked up list of trusted dealers, and site linked was there, but with .ru

Looks like this is an old omega geneve, but anyone happen to know the exact ref?

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>>15804585
that looks fucking useless, and it's a breitling
just get a g shock

>>15804590
>buying reps