/fa/ - Fashion

Model

Being self employed so you don't have to follow a dress code and can wear full rick all the time. Extra points if you have people work for you and enforce a strict business dress code yet lead meetings dress like a goof ninja.

>>15777771
This is a question you should answer yourself....
but I can tell you this - on one of my last days in class before graduating - my prof asked something I wish someone asked me before I picked my majors:

If you had billions of dollars and never had to work again - what would you do with your life?
(My answer didn’t align with what I studied I can tell you that)

Aside from the “nothing” answer which is an option but not very fulfilling...literally if you didn’t have to work another day in your life - what would you do???

>>15777851
My answer is just mountain bike and learn martial arts and different sports. None of these thing will pay the bills.

>>15777771
fashion industry is hellish at pretty much every level. for lower levels— assistants, editors, junior stylists, etc. it’s torture and it doesn’t pay shit. just go into finance and use the money you make to hang out in the fashion world.
>t. nyc freelancer

>>15777856
Plenty of people making bank as personal trainers.

>>15777856
If you are smart enough you can figure out how - everything is an industry dude - an industry you can be a part of.
If you have the passion for something - find a way to make it your job

These things can pay bills just like all industries if you have enough passion and drive

(I know I sound corny but fr find a way to make a living doing things you enjoy)

>>15777857
Yep
Agreed 100%
And some of the people are the worst people you’ll ever meet.

>>15777864
>Plenty of people making bank as personal trainers
I wish it was that easy

>>15777871
I have to say this is really solid advice thank you tripfag

>>15777864
>>15777871
I don't want to be a teacher. I'm not even good at these things. I want to learn them. And even if I were a martial arts prof that doesn't mean I could be a good teacher, which I know I'm not since I have zero patience for other people.

>>15777851
How can I make money by playing vidya and blowing money traveling to tropical places anon? Plz no bully.

>>15777985
Be a semi cute girl, stream twitch, hire a marketing team.

>>15777992
>Be a semi cute girl
Well fuck. I should go try the /biz life and invest in meme money.

>>15778011
Buy xrp and hodl. Enjoy being rich in 5 years.

>>15777913
I didn't say it was easy kek

>>15777921
All I'm saying is that if it's your dream it's at the very least worth giving it a try. You don't have to be good at them you can try making a youtube about getting good at them. Or you can spend your free time getting better at them so that in 10 years you can do it. I mean I don't expect you to take my advise seriously lol but it's just, if it's something you love doing I don't see why you wouldn't spend part of your free time on it. Even if you fail at making money it should be fun either way.

>>15778023
Honestly better advice would be to start a business with your friends doing something you don't hate that makes decent money
t. Started a construction company with zero experience and work with 2 of my friends. It hardly feels like work.

>>15778033
do you build houses?

>>15778015
I don't know what these letters mean anon. I did swing trading years ago and did 50% roi in a year but I know fuck all about crypto. I only stopped bc as the gains grew so did the stress and I was tired of always being fixated on the markets 24/7. If I could do it again I would def set up stop loss orders and dabble in options. Fuck maybe I should. I just don't have a lot of capital to invest atm.

>>15778036
I should have said ''construction''. I instal kitchens. It hardly takes any skill. We can fo a 10k contract in 2 to 3 days. The cabinets either come pre assembled or we have to assemble them ourselves if it's ikea.

>>15778037
Look anon. Xrp is crypto that may get very big in a few years. Hodl is a biz meme, just means hold. Xrp is like 60 cents US now a coin. Buy in before it's too late.

>>15778043
That's still pretty cool. Opening a company with your bros sounds like a dream.

>>15778043
How do you find your customers/contracts anon? I knew a mason who made mad money and loved it.

>>15778056
As long as your arms are growing out of the right place it's easy shit. COVID fuckes eveything though so now I'm going to school to be an electrician on the government's dime. If covid ever ends I'll be able to add electronic work to the companies resume.

>>15778061
Craigslist/kijiji/facebook market place. Talked directly with ikea and other places that sell kitchens.

>>15777877
> Worst people you'll ever meet

You ever think it's you? Notice how you argue with everyone and act bitchy 24/7

With 2 duis and multiple drug charges in life you belong In prison

>>15778135
You're literally the least likeable person on /fa/, atleast Me makes attempts to contribute.

is daytrading /fa/?

>>15778147
How do I into day trading? How to start?

>>15777771
Any career that gives you as much time, freedom and money as you can possibly get. Ideally being self employed but realistically something like a computer science job. Don’t follow the whole “follow your passion” meme unless you are financially set for life or something.

>>15777771
Lawyer is a pretty good choice. You get a fair bit of money, and it's one of the few professions where you can wear a suit and tie without it being seen as cringe LARPing.

>>15778225
>Don’t follow the whole “follow your passion” meme unless you are financially set for life or something.
This is very true. There's people who became millionaires selling pots made out of cow manure. I guarantee you that wasn't what they wanted to do in life but it's what ended up giving them the most fulfilling life.

>>15778235
Lawyer is shit because half of lawyers are making literal minimum wage tier money while the other 50% are making loads of money but working 80 hour weeks and want to kill themselves.

>>15778236
Honestly it just makes more sense to pursue your dream while you have time and money. Let’s say you wanted to become a painter or something. It’s stupid to work a minimum wage job with no time on your hands and just hope your dream will take off. If you got a successful stable career that you don’t care for, you can at least chase your dream and not be broke.

>>15778251
This. A good paying job is just a stepping stone to fulfilling your dreams.

>>15777771
Whatever makes you the richest, or that you are in the top 10% worldwide. Being a mediocre anything is not cool.
Musician is extremely fa.

For realistic suggestions though, engineering and CS aren't terrible, but OG engineers and programmers are pretty rare now; everyone is a tryhard and success in the industry is just luck after you meet a basic skill threshold. Literally everybody and their mom nowadays works in these fields, so not effay unless you're actually good.
Mathematician, geologist or physicist can be effay, since you can earn a living wage but they're rare enough that you don't meet them everyday, and can act like you're smarter than others. But you'll never rake in big bucks doing them.
Finance and marketing are cool after a certain threshold, but lots of junior people end up whoring themselves out to get to the top.
Overall, choose something marketable but use your spare time in community college or university to make a serious attempt to pursue what you're naturally good at/want to do. Most people's "dreams" don't work out (and they don't like them as much as they thought they did), but nothing's more embarrassing than not trying.

>>15778260
if you knew literally anyone who does engineering or comp sci you would know 95% of the people with those jobs are cargo short wearing manchildren, absolutely not /fa/

>>15778260
Did you seriously just type all that bullshit and start by saying that fucking CS and engineering are effay? What kind of retard shit is this?
CS and engineering STEMcels are probably the least fashionable people alive. They are disgusting and wear t-shirts with Marvel logos, cargo shorts, socks with sandals and glasses.

>>15778280
>>15778274
The jobs itself are effay retards not the people who work there. Having that amount of money and time while being effay is an amazing combo

>>15778304
Most engineers and CSfags aren't actually making a lot of money unless they live in Silicon Valley. And if they do live there they're still poor because rent is 6k a month.
There is nothng effay at all about STEMcels

>>15778309
>t.hasn’t worked an engineer or cs job

>>15778348
Because I'm not a sperg

>>15777851
>what would you do???
Coke and plow multiple escorts everyday.

>>15778202
youtube

Study mathematics and data analysis with some finance maths and you'll have a bigger change of getting to work in finance over some typical finance bro

>>15778682
That’s 2 industries bb
Pick one
Unless of course you’re a multi talker and a risk taker

>>15778869
I think I fell asleep halfway through your post geek
But good on you if that’s your passion bc you’ll probably make more money than most of the people here

>>15778869
based literally me, start learning a language or two as well if you want the big bucks

>>15777771
/fa/wise I think that either industrial design or UX/UI is breddy good. Creative field, decent pay, aesthetic products, ability to branch out into other industries if you get lucky

Trad fortune 300 investor/advisor
Crochet art instructor

is medschool /fa/? i hate the dorks that attend it but it looks like something pretty fun to do if youre not pretentious about it

literally anything that actually creates value for society rather than being parasitic

>>15778886
> tfw grew up knowing 4 languages

Get mad languagelets

>>15778931
Imo it is on the same level as being a lawyer but actually useful to society in most cases. Well paid? Possibly. Prestige? Likely. Free time and relaxing? In most cases no. But if you feel passionate about it then why not;)

>>15778935
How do you see industrial design then. On one hand you’ve got creative approach towards furniture, household and daily use items and putting a spin on them. On the other - it is literally pure consumerism and producing more shit to sell

>>15778939
unironically makes me really fucking jealous

>>15778939
Ftw fluent in 2 but beginner in other 2. Where you from man, most burgers dont know that many

>>15778940
How are lawyers not useful to society?

Also if you are talking about /fa/ jobs then lawyers are somewhere near the top. Sure the education you have to take is a pain in the ass but once you are a lawyer it gets interesting. My dad is a lawyer and he always tells me "classified" info about criminals. It's more interesting than you would think, you get to visit asylums, prisons, talk to psychopaths, and study interesting cases.

>>15778950
*Tfw

>>15777797
I was with you at the first part but then you went full retard.

>>15778869
Finance bores me but data analytics for marketing is my goal, have a internship lined up with asics once I finish school

>>15778950
im from Sweden, grew up with a german dad and a Peruvian mom, English just came naturally from being online and learning it on school. I think Swedish is kind of insignificant since its not talk anywhere other than Sweden and i am already planing to move out of this shithole country. German and Spanish are obviously very usefull

>>15778956
lamoa i wrote that in the most broken English ever, it was missclicks don't start doubting my English

>>15778952
Nah man I ain’t denying the prestige and possibility of having a proper, interesting job just as you mentioned. But in plenty of cases you gotta have some support in form of your lawyer-parents or other superiors that you’re on good terms with as you take first steps in the career. Outside of that the chances are quite slim for those outside the circle.
T. friends with 3 lawyers 2 of which have a headstart thanks to their parents legacy. Even they say that law is fucking abysmal in terms of working hours, stress and other problems. What’s the point of having loads of cash when you don’t have much free time to enjoy it until you’re past 40?

>>15778956
Damn that is nice, Eurobro as suspected:)
I’m from Poland so there’s polish and english on C1/C2 levels but I also have beginner level of german and french

>>15778958
I feel ya, typing on phone or laptop causes some horrendous mistakes

>>15778960
Yeah, I get what you are saying, there is a lot of paperwork involved. There is also the drawback of it not being an international career. My dad got fucked over because he studied in Germany and then moved to Sweden. In Sweden, the laws are obviously different so he could not get any jobs.

>>15778965
Yep, and if you want to go international then you are mostly bound to the corporate jobs in like LDN or NYC where you’re worked to death. I had a brief thought about going for it but design is something much more interesting to me

>>15777851
Let me see your flaps you roast!

I'm an architect. People in my profession are either normies or RickOwens looking tryhards who only wear black and use esoteric language. I'd say its very /fa/ though. public perception aligns us with doctors even though we don't make a fraction of their $$$.

>>15778982
Are generally salaries in archi. low? I hear a lot about architects having a ton of work to do but for generally little pay

>>15777771
Making career decisions based on 4cham is a good way to end up killing yourself when you're 35 and burnt out

>>15778982
I want to study architect and use esoteric language

>>15778878
Oh fuck that, I hate math and finance. But I study chemical engineering and I hate that even more

>>15778988
It's a very slow career. I have 4 years experience and I was making about 60k in the suburbs near LA. I have a friend making high 60k and another at 86k in LA somehow. Location and building sectors factor a lot. It is a lot of work and schooling was a brutal grinder of 5 years for a BArch. There's a lot of really boring, tedious work we do, but at the end of the day it can be fulfilling. Design is what we do but the fun part of it is a very small portion of the monumental amount of work that goes into a building.

>>15778995
go for it. Academia is wrought with it. here's some starter literature
https://monoskop.org/images/archive/c/cd/20170506121429%21Venturi_Brown_Izenour_Learning_from_Las_Vegas_rev_ed_missing_pp_164-192.pdf

>>15778988
I left out that people with maybe 20+ yrs experience probably cap around 120k a year as a project manager. Unless you're going upper management or a principal of a firm or your own I don't imagine people making much more.

>>15779019
Just as I suspcted. I’ll be better off sticking to ID and eventually maybe making a consultancy with my archi friends in the future. Btw how is the ratio of men to women in American architecture industry? It is quite female dominated here in EU

>>15779022
yeah because construction is becoming so specialized the fee we would charge gets cut so many ways between disciplines that it's hard for the architect to make a huge earning. If you're a developer you're raking in cash though.

I wouldn't say its female dominant here but there's solid representation. Maybe 60/40 men to women.

>>15778250
Can confirm the latter

>>15778946

fine imo, it's all on a sliding scale. not everything needs to be purely altruistic, but design definitely has value for society. everybody can't be a doctor or scientist.

on the parasite end of the scale are the investment bankers, VCs, and the rest of the wage thieves.

>>15778309
I thought this was true until I spoke to some friends and realised they get paid a good £10k less than me and I am the lowest paid programmer in my company and am in my 20s.

Is intelligence fa?

>>15779019
>https://monoskop.org/images/archive/c/cd/20170506121429%21Venturi_Brown_Izenour_Learning_from_Las_Vegas_rev_ed_missing_pp_164-192.pdf
Thank you pal

>>15779369
This somehow makes me feel better about visiting a friend of a friend of a friend (investment banker) who has a 1.5 million dollar house on the beach in his early 30s

>>15779994
y-y-you're welcome

Man why is it I'm the only tradie who has an interest in fashion?

Welding is probably not super effay but it's good honest work that is always in demand and if you can live off 80-120k and aren't afraid of breaking a sweat, it's the most high T profession one can have. Plus you can use gamer words in casual conversation

More traditional answer would be model, fashion designer, musician, etc. But it’s really what you wanna do imo. I’m a detective for a pretty big city in the US. Planning on retiring at 35, opening up a PI firm and doing that for the remainder. To me that’s the sickest shit but for some people that would seem too restrictive. Be the author of your own story anon

>>15780555
do you just stalk people professionally? I like finding people's locations based on photos. like if they have a distinct roof of a house in the background or mountain formations behind I will use that info on google maps to just search for where they are.

One you’re good at

>>15780555
OP Here

I have a natural affinity for the arts (graphic design, fashion, music), but I don't want to go to college for something that won't make much.

Probably going to school for electrical engineering after I transfer from community college.

Detective seems /fa as fuck. How much do you make?

>>15780743
>Detective seems /fa as fuck.
Sitting for hours on end in a car following possibly cheating spouses sounds soooo /fa/.

>>15780753
If someone tells you they work as a detective, you automatically think "damn he's cool as fuck"

>>15780763
Except I personally know a detective and know how boring his job is and how much time he spends away from home.

>>15777771
I'm a recipe developer and I work for food based startups as a consultant. Money is very good for how little I work and I get to cook all day which is what I want to do anyway. pic related is dinner

>>15780778
>food-based startups
>they either rot or get eaten

>>15780778
I'm so goddamn jelly you fucker. What is that process like? Your job sounds a million times better than being a chef or being a famous loser like the people from BA.

>>15780555
what do you do as a detective?

>>15777851
I've never found anything to be fulfilling

>>15778956
Man tvekar ju på att du är flytande när du skriver "on school", "not talk anywhere" och stavar "useful" med 2 L...

>>15777851
Ignoring unrealistic expectations and social pressure will obviously result in more authentic decisions, but ignoring the appeals of money and status completely is a psychogenic lobotomy, they make you who you are.

>>15777851
I’ve thought about this question and my answer to it is that I would be a pianist. Grew up playing piano and still do but never to a professional level of where I may be if I never gave up that dream.

>>15780568
Exactly, that’s what I hope to do. I have a trust fund as well as a ton of savings so as soon as I retire I’m starting it up immediately.
>>15780743
College is tricky. And it’s smart that you’re not gonna drop money on something that won’t make much. However, you could still tie it in. If you do electrical engineering, maybe you could try to carve out some business working in music venues or orchestra halls with their electrical systems. Maybe you could run a side business doing graphic design. The fact you have so many interests will do you well man
>>15780753
>>15780769
>>15781208
I started out doing narcotics as an officer. Got promoted to detective. Now though I’m doing robbery, it’s less destructive on social life and since I have a wife and kid, that helps. I usually clear north of 100k which for me is plenty. But being a detective has MANY boring parts. A lot of paper work, interviewing, waiting, etc. it has a lot of spontaneity and excitement though and no day is different so for me it’s effay

>>15777771
Navy officer

>>15780452
>I'm the only tradie who has an interest in fashion?
it doesn't show

>>15781231
jag sa ju missclick horunge

>>15777877
you live in the Virginia boondocks you don't know shit old bitch

>>15781072
I was a cook a line cook throughout high school and I hated it but it's a fun job if you like drugs. Then I went to college and did food studies while working on sets of food tv shows and stuff like BA. It was a lot of fun but the money is so shit and obviously the politics are retarded so I switched to more like business oriented food stuff. Right now I'm making really boring recipes with broad appeal but the upside is that the money is very good. I'm working on a pitch for a cookbook right now which would be unbelievably cool to do. pic related is a Korean glazed chicken I made for Thanksgiving

something creative like architecture or any other design field

>>15777851
I'd work. Its what drives me. Believe it or not retirement kills, most men dont live long after losing their purpose

I’m a night club manager. Of course there’s no work rn, but it’s super sick witnessing my concepts and ideas come alive and be appreciated. Also i enjoy the attention i get, even though it’s mostly freaks wanting to skip the queue or free drinks. Insta dms used to go hot during the weekends.

>>15781349
if you were in any way good enough or had the potential to be a professional pianist, there’s absolutely no way you would’ve been allowed to quit

>>15777851
>>15777871
>>15777877
>>15778875
>>15778878

taking job advice from a criminal lol

>>15782962
>my concepts and ideas
any examples you could share without revealing too much?

>>15782985
>I’m a night club manager. Of course there’s no work rn, but it’s super sick witnessing my concepts and ideas come alive and be appreciated. Also i enjoy the attention i get,

attention-whore-speak from a prideful shit who takes credit for doing nothing kek

>>15782962
>it’s super sick witnessing my concepts and ideas come alive and be appreciated
>Also i enjoy the attention i get,

lol disgusting subhuman

>>15782982
LOL

>>15782985
My job is for the most part bookings and events. Good events is what makes a place popular; the music, interior, the entire vibe of the evening. My favorite part about it all is booking artists that I appreciate. And all the blow.

Besides the logistics, it’s great to work with something creative full time.

The night club is this really old castle, and the main place to be in my city.

>>15783017
>My job

nightclub king larp lmfao chop off your penis and feed it to me

>>15783017
useless job desu ngl kek

>>15782982
It’s the horsefucker

Associate professor/filmmaker/producer

I guess you could spin it as /fa/ but not at all in a glamorous way.

>>15783060
effay only if you’re a hairy bearded big-dicked daddy

>>15777771
>he’s coming to fa for career advice
zoomers are so fucked as a generation

>>15782962
>it’s super sick witnessing my concepts and ideas come alive and be appreciated.
>Also i enjoy the attention i get,

Yikes

>>15783065
yes
Based

>>15777851
I would dedicate 100% to music, creating, playing, working with other people, producing, releasing stuff etc

>>15777771
At Costco you can wear whatever you want.

>>15781392
thoughts on True Detective s1?

>>15781711
goddamn that looks good. where do you source your protein usually? Is costco all shit?

>>15778147
No, those guys are incels.

>>15778869
Mathematicians and finance bros do different jobs in finance. Finance bros don't get hired for their math skills.

t. MSc in Finance

>>15783562
>>15783045
>>15782720
>>15781476
>>15781349

>>15782720
>mindless cheap labourer mentality

LOL get fuckt

>>15782720
>work is what drives me

>>15783746
fuck outta here with your coomer pic

>>15782720
>work drives me

>>15782982

>>15782962
Explain how you ended up as a night club manager

>>15784607
>be me 14
>go on grindr
>start taking raw loads for cash
>local business man/pimp tells me i can make 2k a week off my ass if i let him run my business.
>take his bbc raw and say "uwu sure daddy"
>he beats me and then turns me bloodied out into the street
>"bitch bettah have $300 for me by 5am or i break a finger"

tl;dr went that way for several years until i had finally saved enough in my hollow dildo to buy a bus ticket out of there. moved to los angeles and became a night club manager and never looked back!

>>15782962
cringe

>>15783065
based

>>15783764
lmao she’s a bitch

>>15783676
Loved true detective season 1. I liked the other seasons but 1 sold it on me, fairly accurate as well at least from the character level. Most accurate police show I’ve seen is The Wire or maybe Bosch.

>>15783017
Based, which country ?
And what kind of DJs do you book ?

>>15784706
fuckyou

>>15784706
>responding to low quality bait

shaking my (cock)head

>>15778274
retard, your meant to rise above those mouth breathers not become them
its effay being consistently the best looking in the room

>>15778956
Sucks that you wasted a language slot on Swedish though, due to that I'd say that you really speak three languages not four. English is S tier, Spanish and German is A tier Swedish is D tier. I am a burger and I know English, French, Spanish, Italian, Portugese, so mostly Romance languages. I don't think Italian or Portuguese is that useful, French can be but as for English and Spanish those are essential in 'murica due to the Mexicans. I don't plan to learn any Asian languages because fuck chinks and bugman cultures. I definitely want to add German since it's good for business. I can't think of any other languages that I might add since I don't want to do business with the middle eastern muzzielands or anywhere else for that matter. I was learning a bit of Russian earlier but honestly unless you want to work in government or want to read literature it isn't worth it.

>>15777857
How to freelance in finance, anon?

>>15781417
>bro do you even wear full Rick to construction sites

Want to know how I know you have dainty hands?

I realized I actually really like coding after spending 5 years on a finance degree. Is there a way I can spill over into development rn, if I know VBA and R and am doing CS50 now, but don't have formal CS fundamentals?

How to become freelance journalist? I think that's what I would do if i could do any career.

>>15777851
Live in Thailand and train Muay Thai and hang out.
Already getting there; I work as a teacher in a boarding school; plan is to move to Thailand to teach there.

>>15778260
>or that you are in the top 10% worldwide
If you live in the developed world and make enough to sustain your life (Ie food, water, shelter), you're in the 10% of the world. even if you work a shit minimum wage dead end job for your entire life.

>engineering and CS aren't terrible
This is retarded. spend anytime at a uni with a competitive Engineering and/or CS department and you can literally point out who the engineering and/or CS major students are by how they dress (Very poorly)
>Mathematician, geologist or physicist can be effay.
Anyone can be effay in what ever they do, but generally speaking people in these professions are not effay, nor are they much smarter than people with comparable degree's in any meaningful way socially, which is what ditactes effayness.
>Overall, choose something marketable.....
if you're marketable, you're whoreing yourself out either ways..

>>15786563
This guy...Idfk where to start ...I guess I’ll guess point out the 1 thing that does makes sense - anyone can be fa in what they do

The rest is just verbal vomit

Painter
/thread

>>15785065
mongrel mutt having an opinion lmaoo, go lick kike boot like rest of your pathetic country people

>>15778682
ok, be pornstar

ICO-ing shitcoins. Pictured is said person.

thoughts on volcanology? I want to go into earth science because it interests me, and I am an eagle scout so I figure I have a decent shot at becoming an astronaut, then if the astronaut thing falls through I can get a PhD in volcanology and chill somewhere nice like Hawaii or Japan.

>>15787457

>>15777851
wow that's so insightful, very helpful if I ever have a billion dollars

>>15787463

>>15787466
It's easier than you might think anon. Create value for others and be smart about it and it isn't that hard. I know a guy who owns almost a dozen million shares of TSLA. Got in really early on the VC side. It also comes down to luck :)

>>15787495
>It's easier than you might think anon.
Yeah most billionaires had very little trouble inheriting wealth form their parents. I agree, it is easier than you'd think

>>15783852
>>15783782
>>15783767
What's wrong with liking your work? You faggots must be 15 or something.

>>15787508
Wealth had to start somewhere, didn't it?

>>15787514
Yeah, often times from free labor or your great grandfather's patent, doesn't mean choosing a career based around a scenario that almost certainly won't happen is a good idea. People who give this advice have often never had to worry about bills

>>15787525
>People who give this advice have often never had to worry about bills

I wouldn't say I personally grew up wealthy at all. I simply socialized and networked until it made me sick, taking full advantage of where I lived. Being friends with very powerful people is invaluable. I'm not saying everyone lives ten minutes from Bel Air, but just being a sociable, fun person to be around has unlimited rewarding potential.

>>15777771
Airplane pilot or delivery driver (only for small local restaurants).

>>15787548
>trick people for profit

hope that’s fulfilling for you

>>15778043
similar thing man. i install all types of furniture for family business. you can make anything fa if you want to

Engineering

There's nothing more /fa/ than actually creating something, unless you end up as a worthless desk monkey.

t. Control systems engie

>>15778280
>They are disgusting and wear t-shirts with Marvel logos, cargo shorts, socks with sandals and glasses.
most of them don't in Europe, but I wouldn't call them particularly effay either, the most effay lads here are in business and some of the humanities

>>15778280
You will never make something.

>>15787206
Jokes on you I am a kike just forgot to mention Hebrew.

>>15777851
Yeah but you don't have a billion dollars. Don't take career advice from someone telling you to ignore money.

>>15789161
Engineering is the antithesis of effay

>>15789485
I get your point but we need nerds even if they smell like headcheese

>>15778147
Stupid wsb style meme daytrading? No. Actually doing some reading and not being stupid? Yes.

>>15777771

>>15778950
Yeah fuck off, I'm a burger and I'm fluent in just as many as you are. And by fluent I mean no accent.

>>15788776
OP here, you either play the game or get played bro. He didn't say he is manipulating people. Socializing and networking is the #1 way to be successful. Read "How to Win Friends and Influence People".

>>15789485
Engineering is very /fa. Most of the people doing engineering are onions but engineering itself is swag.

>>15789645
How did you learn a language? I'm thinking about learning Spanish or French through Duolingo.

>>15789660
Know someone who speaks it who you live with, or just live there. Idk about Duolingo.

>>15789660
spanish is waaaay easier than french and the dudes are hotter

>>15777771
My job! I own and import and distribution business for wines. So I am always at fine dining restaurants drinking wine and travel twice a year around the world to find new wines.

>>15789709
>daddy is a jew
truly

>>15789740
Not a jew, not daddy's money, built it on my own with the help of some initial investment.

Software engineering

>>15778147
>is never going outside /fa/
no. it's also a great way to go broke. buy the dip and hold forever.

>>15778869
or you could just major in anything at a good school

t. harvard art history major at goldman

>>15777871
>>15777851
It's a load of horse shit. This advice literally only works if you're only one listening to it. What kind of market do you think there is for professional Lego model builders? Do you think there's any realistic way that there is at least as much demand for Lego model building as there are autistic nerds who would do it for minimum wage? Or something more mainstream, there is just no way that most people who enjoy playing any given sport can do so professionally, even if they devote every waking moment to getting better at it, they have actual genetic limits ensuring they will never hack it. If a skinny ectomorph 5'4" dude wants to play in the NFL more than anyone else in the world does it doesn't fuckin matter, he will never ever be able to compete. Sorry but at the end of the day most people just have to prioritize making money.

>>15789333
>Kike
Even more pathetic.Your ""people"" opinion holds no value

>>15778202
>>15789641
>>15789812

t. retards who lost money on trading bc they cant use their brain.

I've seen people be so stupid when it comes to trading and they dont even realize it, some people just cant wrap their head around trading no matter how much they try. Trading is a very interesting profession for some people and you can make loads of money depending on how smart you are.

>>15777771
>>15777771
FOLLOW THE MONEY

that whole narrative of "if you love what you do, you won't work a day in your life" is false for the most part. unless your dick gets hard having a million excel tabs open, using matlab, or calming hysterical ER patients.

>>15790052
Have you ever heard this saying?
"If you don't work a day in your life, you'll love whatever you do."
I agree with you 100%, acquire riches and then do whatever the fuck you want.

>>15789654
>>15788776
this

it's not manipulation at all.

it's really just putting yourself out there on Indeed or linking up w/ recruiting agencies, and not taking rejection personally.

i would consider myself a little on the dorky, neurotic side of the social spectrum, but just being enthusiastic, friendly, and respectful ("thank you for your time", taking notes, etc.) does wonders when it comes to getting your foot in the door. i would consider it the opposite of being a corny networker spamming LinkedIn invites.

>>15790059
haven't heard that one. there's so many good grandpa quotes that aren't being taught to kids.

i always scream internally when i read threads of kids wanting to do creative work for a living. i have countless relatives who have gone the freelance design/art path (tiles, surfboards, you name it) and they are constantly in and out of financial trouble. luckily things are becoming stable for my dad but it's just not worth it if you're some stoner kid dabbling with photoshop a couple hours a week.

>>15790021
Did you even read my comment? I'm saying trading is cool and sorta effay if you're not stupid about it.

>>15789839
How old are you??

Listen little wabbit....life is short
You wanna spend it making loads of cash to buy cool sneakers and shiny cars ??? Okie dokie

At the end of the day —— do what’s fulfilling and what you truly love bc money is not what makes you inherently happy (I know this sounds corny but it’s true)

Cracks me up and I already know better than to think anyone on a fashion Board has substance
...but trust me people
Money =\= happiness

Just do what makes you happy bc riches and big houses is not the answer
(In fact big houses and fast cars will keep you from the fulfilling shit - you’ll be so busy paying for all that your life will pass you by)

>>15790088
I have more of a problem that my relatives are all retarded and even though they make six figures they're in massive debt.

>>15790133
>>15790138
Do you know what opportunity cost is tripfag? Someone who has a billion dollars by the time they're 40 and doesn't have to work anymore can spend the rest of their life doing whatever they want, while you will have to slave until you die on a job you """like""".

>>15790146
You’re missing the point
Obviously not everyone will be a billionaire who chooses to do what they like.

>>15790146
I’ve worked In several industries
I quit where I made most money bc I hated it and I hated the people and I hated going to work...

Switched to what I enjoyed - not as much money but it’s so much more tolerable and I enjoyed it

COVID hit and took a while nother turn and started doing something that I literally enjoy and I’m so much more fulfilled even if I make squat

(I realize not everyone is in the position to Do this...and some people need to make money money money but I’m just saying.....so much better getting out of bed in the morning when you’re doing something you actually enjoy”

>>15790150
Obviously if you're not at least rich enough to live off passive income if you choose to, you have no real freedom and are a slave. You don't make choices at that point, they are made for you. Born an animal, live like an animal, die without succor.

>>15790162
>live off passive income

>>15790101
I did not.

To be normal/comfortable you should have at least 2 millon dollars of net worth and as much as liquid nas possible by the time you hit 29.

I paid off my loans in my mid-20s and everyday in my 30's is how. I going to make $500-1000 today to pay off my bills. I'm getting lucky right now because I work from home 9-5 and that's good for about 60-70of what I need. and also derive income from online sales of shit especially during the holidays.

But if I fuck up and sink 2-3 hours into some shit on fusion360 that doesn't sell then I'm behind on bills.

Car note, power, solar panel payment (I financed), food, gf is going for her phd

Shit just adds up and it's fucking stressful. Taking out loans because the apr is less than the interest rate of just leaving it in a checking account but it's more work...more people to email constantly.....I always feel like I owe people shit or something.

>>15790142
All the normies I knew in high school are doing so well they don't have stress. Got married had kids, healthy at least 2 living in the suburbs and don't have trouble paying for shit. Brand new lexus every few years and shit easy life.

I don't know where I fucked up, probably some mental illness or maybe I'm stupid but my life has always been short term thing to short term thing. Revenue starts drying up for shit.

Two years ago I was using a script to buy graphics cards to mine ehterum. Last year I was signing up for as many space drops as possible to get an extra $1200 a month ish....

And "hodl" then dump into spdr index fucking rat race keeping up with tech.

>>15790571
Student loans*

I still have a ton of debt, 0% apr car loan, 0% apr solar panels, 1-2% apr small business loans

I can pay off all my loans with my savings account but I'm making 4-10% (ytd) an various investments

So I'd lose money of I paid off my solar panels and my Toyota if I dumped my savings. Would also not have the 9 month emergency fund to live off of

>>15790162
She dropped out of college, did time throughout her life and now she scoops horse shit for her friend that pays her $200/week and housing

PSA:
Fatfuck knows nothing about me

Plumber is the most effay

>>15790184
Living off passive income is the most /fa/ of careers. Sorry peasant.

>>15789839
the advice is relevant to high iq people, so what they "love doing" isn't shit like lego building or becoming a football player

>>15790733
High IQ people love having sex and taking drugs.

>>15790613
Not having a job just aimlessly wondering around is the most effay thing you can do

Ofc you’ll need rich parents to leech off from to substantiate that lifestyle cause you’ll need money to cop exclusive drops

>>15790610
PSA:
No one fucking cares

>>15787457
I think that would be a very cool thing to study! I'm finishing up a degree in general petrology. Earth science is definitely one of the more rewarding and fun science majors. Igneous petrology and GIS would be good. Rooting for you anon!

>You will never EVER be Conor McGregor

Why even live?

>>15785603
I can't imagine being into fashion and being as fat as you are, such a waste.

>>15782720
Anon, retirees die because they are old.
Being exploited is not effay.

>>15787467
effay wie fick!

>>15777851
sex sex sex

>>15777777

electrical engineer here,
work for a utility doing protection and control
pensions are pretty effay
90k in the southwest in my 20's is as well
otherwise not effay at all tho, but i'll write up a bit
pretty low stress, generally don't work very hard, and if i get more on my plate than usual i bill for overtime even if i'm still working less than 40 hours (salary but track time against job numbers)
wfh now and the workload has slowed during covid, so i don't usually head into the office unless i need prints or have to do lab checks, on the days i have to do checkouts at substations i wear a tailored FR shirt (tucked or untucked), japanese denim and red wing classic mocs... park at the office and take a work truck to the site

i'm supposed to wear safety toes but the safety toe mocs are xbox huge and hurt
i get vouchers for red wing every year so i've got 5 heritage pairs now
i'm in air conditioned control houses at subs anyway and not allowed to do any physical work so it's really just for show
iron rangers are pretty versatile, but i don't wear the classic mocs to the office, i'll change into them before i hit the substation, put on my hardhat from where i park the truck and take it off when i walk into the control house (again essentially just for show, there's no need for me to walk under equipment so i'm never in danger)


downside is i work in the southwest so heat eliminates layering as an option
the office is pretty casual with most people wearing casual shoes, jeans, and a polo
the older guys all wear jeans with a dress shirt (seems to be the uniform across utilities)

i just make sure everything fits well and don't rock the boat too much, dress up jeans with shirts, dress down chinos (sweaters in the winter or polos/ untucked style long sleeve button downs in the summer) to get a look going that looks white bread enough to go management track

>>15792657
i'll add that hr at my utility tends to hire engineers that are able to converse well and seem personable
what i mean is they filter out the spergs so that the average engineer is technical, but also blends to a white bread "likes to hunt" or "like to golf" look
in my department that means field engineer that deals with tradies or management

there's only a few women and while we have some cuties in the engineering development program, meeting women isn't viable in my department
other departments have a lot more women and hr tends to only hire attractive women, so there's that but cross departmental interactions are limited once out of the development program

>>15777771
I have a business where I make photography and cinematography lighting for indoor and night shots to simulate daylight. I custom order the components, refraction and diffusion layers, lighting elements, casing, potentiometers, wiring and microcontrollers all from chinese sweatshops, then I assemble them in my apartment and ship them out through Amazon.
It pays well because I'm the only employee and I compete with big companies. Easy work too, other than initial setup and planning. I just have to fit things together.

actuary here. are actuaries /fa/?

Epidemiologists are hot right now.

>>15793472
no lmao

>>15777851
professors are clueless

>>15777917
its not good advice.

>>15783764
God, this is the people I talk to on 4chan.

>>15782720
>Believe it or not retirement kills
no. They retire because they lose the ability to properly continue working and then they, as expected, die. Nothing to do with purpose.

>>15789558
Coaxing women into fields they'll hate is sort of unethical.

But whatever keeps wages down.

>>15787457
During my B.Sc. in Physics I was super jelly on all the geofags making these kick ass excursions while I was in a windowless basement measuring if a wire gets hot when you apply heat, or looking at melting ice for an hour

>>15777985
From what I've seen on streaming its fairly easy to make money if you have a personality. Half of the recommend streams are crusty overweight guys playing fps and barely speaking over the course of 8 hours.

I was a cook for years. Pretty fun job not really /fa/ would of kept doing it but covid layed off about half of all restaurant employees plus I started having lower back issues and knee swelling.

26 and unemployed got me wondering how to work for myself from now on.

>>15793541
semantics

>>15790627
>passive income
>career
a career is about doing shit with your life, not sitting on a pile of gold.

I'm an research economist working in a central bank. Is my job /fa/? People fall asleep when I speak about what I do

>>15778015
I just yolod $20 bucks (poor) u better be right anon

God I hate work so much... I just can't imagine being passionate about anything. 23 years old and wasted all this year trying to study something my parents wanted me to study. I live in a 2nd world shithole and all everything pays like shit, emigration is a hassle... Can't even afford nice clothes baka.. this sounds like an r9k post but what should I do in this situation

>>15794413
It’s not too late...you can literally still go back to school and do something you enjoy. Or not - just go do something that doesn’t make you wish for a car accident on the way to work everyday.
I’ve been there and have made several changes over the past decade - sometimes takes a while to figure out exactly what you want out of life/work but having a job that you actually like and is fulfilling is more important than loads of money (ofc you need to be able to support yourself and yada yada - but you can do shit like flip houses to supplement your income)

>>15777857
>finance
if you want a soul destroying job sure

>>15778250
this, my dad's tried both. Biggest regret of his life and literally killing him. Don't do law.

>>15783562
musician here
you dont want this, youuu dont rlly want this lol
nothing but fake people and the late realization nothing is good or bad, it just is
u can do it though, simple as recording yourself and putting it out, not difficult at all anon

polymathy

>>15777777

>>15777771
Any job that involves working in your community is the most /fa/. I wage slave as a fish monger, but I know everyone in my local area, get to wear whatever I want, and get to deal with people on a regular basis. Plus the pay is good enough I can afford a place with my partner and I get to buy whatever clothes I want. honestly jobs like this are rare but working stuff like this is honestly the most "fulfilling"

>inb4 easy job/not demanding/challenging yourself/im a wagie
I have so much free time and its so so stress free that after hours I have the energy to do whatever I want which is honestly better than indebting myself to be a code monkey for the rest of my life in a completive soulless environment surrounded by basedmen or incels

>>15789660
Learn Italian.

>>15787512
i work in design engineering and like it enough, but if I had a lot of money to where I didn't need to work, I'd rather spend that time on my hobbies and social life. There's more to life than working.

>>15789161
controls engineering blows holy shit im so glad I did not go down that specific path

>>15795817
post salty dog fits

Also the MOST fa job is an Oxymoron because working isn't effay and if you have to do anything someone else tells you it's not going to let you flex your full creative side to its fasionablest potential

You have to figure out how to whore yourself out most effectively and get independently wealthy so you can rock sick fits and only ever be in public for leisure or consumption. Anything less is not 'MOST' effay

Good luck! It's possible... a lot of people in this thread have said stuff along the lines of follow your passion and and anything is an industry these days wich is TRUE however many times turning your passion into a profession can destroy said passion. Not always, though, and finding that line is the real goal...

>>15777851
I would study, discuss the ideas with others, and just do different hobbies like foreign languages and fitness.
I'm studying German to become a teacher or get into academia.

>>15789208
Who cares?

>>15790052
awful advice

>>15795929
Nah he's right. I hate my job but I'm going to retire at 30 and live off my passive income. If you have money you can do whatever the fuck you want. Poor people cope.

>>15778956
How you look like, I'm curious. Peruvian bruh here.

Working at a bank right now and doing my BA in Finance I Love wearing suits

>>15796021
>>15796009
Also half peruvian half German

I work in the third sector in project management and it's definitely not effay

On the flip side it is FULL of highly conscientious, thicc, christian women.

>>15793719
this

>>15795817
based

>>15796021
lol

Yes

>>15777851
Go back to aviation and try to build my own airframe around pt6

>>15796021
la creatura...