/fa/ - Fashion

>>15782691

>>15782685
>>like/respectability/price ratio
>you'll never make it
>pathetic
What do you mean? Unfortunately when you're poor you have to make compromises, of course I'll never "make it", I'm poor. It's too late for me to be whoever your Instagram idol is, sorry to disappoint.

Rate my shitter and post a better dial than this one if you can.

All of you, the watch community, the system that knows so much, you decide what's tasteful or garish. The same way you decide what's good value or not.

The absolute madman OP intigrated the shitposting from last thread, again. Very based.

Post og /wt/ memes

>>15782713
Used to hate vostoks. Discovered recently my love for silver/steel bezels and arrow hands. Now i like these two models. Case shape is awesome but would use a different strap.
Thanks /wt/, now i have even more shitters soon.

lmao watchniggers

>>15782705
I remember this beauty.
ref?

>>15782713
Ive felt myself coming around to a lot of watches I used to hate i think the constant shills of /wt/ are rubbing off on me

>>15782768
CONSOOM INDIAN AND CHINK SHITTER

>>15782707
The guys at my weekly poker night will get a real kick out of this watch!
Hope Sandra and the kids are doing well.

Sent from my iPhone 4s

>>15782779
thats a chaykin joker retard, its worth more then your house

>>15782783
Weak shitposting

>>15782788
no

Well this thread is off to a good start

So I'm the guy who posted the "what am I missing?" picture that you guys turned into a meme, I think I've decided I'm selling the JLC in order to buy a few cheaper watches. I specifically have these three in-mind.

>>15782805
>Well this thread is off to a good start

>>15782820
Wow, this looks pretty epic, how much is it?

>>15782831
I got it for $140 in 2015. Just changed the battery, it runs out quite often.

>>15782811
ah i remember your ass
those are mostly still boring and i dont like any of them but at least there's a spot of red on the boctok

>>15782834
Wait what the fuck? I thought it's a 10k watch, how?

>>15782844
It's quartz.

>>15782811
The jlc was based tho. Shoulda sold something else

>>15782844
>rough finishing on the hands & indices, including dust & scratches
>looks like a 10k watch

>>15782856
I haven't sold it yet, but being a dedicated dress watch it's certainly the one that I get the least use out of, and for some reason I have this weird notion in my head that a dress watch should be manual winding.

>>15782759
I don't know almost anything about the actual watch got it from my grandma as birthday gift from my deceased grampa, I'm spanish (other brand called Dogma has similar watches and I have seen it on spanish forums as a classic shitter brand), my grandfather was poor so the watch isn't anything remarcable, all I know from the brand is that is french and the company was running at least during the first quarter of XX, some anon dig a bit for me and pointed some story the movement and about ebauches and that's when the watch becomes a bit more valuable in historic terms. The movement is the AS 1130, workhorse movement that was used in german military watches during ww2 and many other brands by Ebauches SA. a big company very important in the swiss industry that ended merging into old ETA creating the modern ETA.

I love this watch, the dial is pure art deco, big dial but short lug to lug perfect for my taste and it runs extremely well, +25s/day.I only wear it maybe 3-4 days per year, so this watch will die with me. For me its the perfect watch, aesthetically I like it more than haute horlogerie watches and it has sentimental value, so nothing can beat it.

>>15782861
>12 year olds aren't appraisers
I'm shocked!

>>15782811
Don't know about the others, but buy the sturmanskie, it has soul and is smol and cute, for sure people will notice it.

>>15782883
Agree with >>15782856 the master control is based. Have you thought about try trying to casual it up on different straps.
Have you though about getting something more colourful? Maybe a zodiac seawolf or something. You seem like you need some joy in your life anon

Why are modern watches so boring?

>>15782848
oh I didn't know it's jeweled. nice

>>15782919
But modern watches are all just reissues of previous watches anon.

By shitting on modern watches you are shitting on the watches you apparently love

>>15782911
That one's actually already ordered since it's under $300 on Drop right now. Unfortunately it's the automatic version, I'd have preferred manual-wind, but they seem to be yearly limited releases and you could only get a manual in a 33mm, which on a 7.25" wrist seems a bit small.

>>15782929
>But modern watches are all just reissues of previous watches anon.

Would love that being true, modern reissues are extremely big and souless, if the original was 33mm the reissue is 40-41. If the original was thin and hand wind, the reissue is thick as fuck and automatic. If the original had no date window, you must be sure the reissue will have one. Original with acrylic dome?, reissue with straight glass or curved at most.

>>15782929
The majority of vintage reissues are sad, soulless, bloated, shells of their former selves

>>15782913
Here's my issue with color, and that certainly seemed to be the most common suggestion when I posted my collection, I just don't wear much color to begin with. My clothes are all black, grey, or occasionally blue. I'm just a boring guy, so my watch collection is likely to follow suit. I do sometimes wear my Speedmaster on like a burgundy NATO strap, but that's about as wacky as I get.

I may consider just keeping the JLC and picking up some of these anyways, the Sturmanskie is already on order. The JLC I think even on it's stock strap could be worn casually, it would just mean that it would get beat up a hell of a lot faster being a fully polished case.

Looking for a cheapy watch that displays 2 times. I was thinking about this casio that has analog and digital display. My s.o. likes my gold a168 so I felt thatd be a good pick. He's not super into them just occasionally wears one of my extras. Any other brands with two displays for under couple hundred ?

>>15782946
>s.o.
fag

>>15782957
I'm not familiar with that brand. Is it french?

>>15782965
Yes, fagget le coultre.

>>15782971
Link

>>15782976
Link?

Luigi

>>15782887
Cool watch anon

>>15782943
Just wear some color, if you wear all dark neutral colors pretty much any watch will go with them. You need to challenge yourself.
How about one of the enamel dial anOrdain watches? They have some color but they are more subdued than other bright watches

>>15783062
those look like such shit on video, the cases are odd and cheap looking, weird proportions

Got my Pepsi Arnie and thankfully everything is aligned.

>>15782946

why is it so hard to find a nice chronograph, even a quartz one, for <1000 USD? inb4 your Sea-Gull trash

when the accessories for your Russian shitter exceed the cost of the actual Russian shitter
>>15782705
based
>>15782687
mirin that elgin

>>15783074
I thought citizen was making bitching quartz chronos.

>>15783083
I don't know if you meant to reply to me, but they do have some. This one isn't cheap, though.

>>15782943
Can you post your collection again?
But ya it was def just lacking colour.
I recall thinking it was a pretty cool mix of stuff especially the JLC.

>>15782811
>selling your best watch to buy 3 literal shitters
Please god don’t fall for the /wt/ memes, holy fuck

>>15783074
This one is better. One of the rare cases where negative display actually makes sense.

>>15783155
There are also other versions, including titanium. But no black dial + negative display + titanium at the same time, for some reason.

>nooo you can't just wear your left handed watch on your left hand you have to wear it properly!

Is Raymond Weil a good brand.

>>15783180

>>15783075
It isn't
Also you should make one.
You could build your own valjew chronograph with a top grade movement, this 39mm , 13.t mm thick ickler german made case. And a half decent dial and handset for less than 1k usd.
Yiu barely even need any tools to put it together

Omega 1020 $250

>>15783203
sure you couldn't push it any further forward? real men wear their watch over their knuckles

>>15783184
what's wrong with that?

>>15783226
Caring about watches being worn above or below the wrist bone is tedious pedantry. Reminds me of those classic menswear forums filled with autistic men who dress like they are cosplaying Dick Tracey.

>>15783232
it's a wristwatch not a handwatch

>>15783180
>>15783227
Just looked at their lineup, most of their watches are too big (42mm three handers)
They have a mall watch aesthetic, they have a bunch of collaboration models that are just them putting the names of dead bands/musicians who's ip is know owned by various holdings corps. Just nothing exciting really.

https://www.amazon.com/SEIKO-watch-chronograph-SSB031PC-Japan/dp/B00B7UUOI0/ref=sr_1_32?dchild=1

Yes or no?

Fug am I gonna regret it? I do love how it looks..

>>15783311
You have been posting this shit for like ten fucking threads.
Fuck off, retard. Either buy it or shut the fuck up.

>>15783311
Just buy it already nigger. If you get it and don't immediately like it return it right away. Don't keep it if there's any doubt

>>15783312
>>15783315
Its tough guys I can't physically interact or manipulate it till I get it. If I was able to handle it in person I wouldn't be constantly worrying about it.

>>15783099
Had to re-make the image and Pixlr is being weird tonight, hopefully this looks right.

>>15783317
They have free returns. Send it back if you don't like it.

>>15783320
did you go 39mm or 42mm on the laco?
My wrist is 6 1/2 but a 39mm seems like it's too small for the watch's history/use. I realize that no bezel/ straight lugs makes it appear big but even still, would not feel right I imagine to have it be smaller in diameter then 40-42mm dive watches I have with albeit shorter lugs.

>>15783325
Yeah I went 42. I'm at 7.25 inch and I did even think about 45mm because of the history like you said.

What's the best diver I can get in the $3k - 5k range?

>>15783317
Just do it faget.

>>15783287
You could at least post a working link
Also no, mechaquartz sucks for a number or reasons. The chronograph hands will loose alignment over time. The shitty useless 24hr subdial is always there, taunting you for being a faggot.

>>15783328
One of the black bays, pelagos, any of those seiko reissues with the 8L movements, etc.

>>15783327
does it wear larger then a 42mm or is the 50mm lug to lug not a big deal? And did you go hand wind or automatic? Hand wind seems like a no brainer... but then it's only you that knows about it so... not sure which direction to take there

>>15783311
Buy it already, make sure you get the tropic strap along with the metal bracelet.
I guess you could check out this chinkshit vintage rolex homage if you like the gilt style.
38mm, nh35, obviously not original at all
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005001586987013.html

>>15783320
You need something red, or one of those awesome orange and blue dive watches. Something with some color.

I keep seeing talk about this Q Timex now. Is it worth buying/wearing, or is it basically just the latest meme shitter?

>>15783320
>>15783337
Something with some color, please, just a crumb just an accent color or something

>>15783338
it's absolute trash, if you buy this you are a sucker
it's a $200 watch that looks and feels like it should be $30. they don't even put a good quartz movement in it, they put some bottom dollar SHIT tier quartz movement. for $200 you can buy some vintage quartz credors if you get lucky on ebay. don't fall for this scam.

>>15783338
It's a fashion watch, it has a cheap movement, a cheap bracelet, plexiglass, minimal water resistance, but it looks good. I don't really think they are a bad buy if you can get one for less than MSRP. People are mad at timex for overpriced reissues with mediocre specs but i don't really think the price is that unreasonable.

What are /wt/'s thoughts on panerai?

>>15783345
I like them, I'm too wristlet to wear much of anything they make but they do some cool stuff.

>>15783334
It wears relatively fine for me, but pretty much all of mine are larger anyways. I did go hand-wind. I tend to like my main daily wearer to be auto and everything else to be hand-wind just because I wear them once a week maybe.

>>15783341
>>15783344

Ah yeah, I think it looks good, but everything I've read about it describes the feeling as being low quality. Not sure I'd want to spend more than 100 bucks on something like it then.

>>15783337
>>15783340
I've looked around for things with color that I don't immediately hate, I haven't found it yet. Like I said I wear primarily black and charcoal grey, bright colors like that just aren't my thing. I know everybody thinks it's boring, but I'm just not the flashy type.

>>15783329
I have angina

>>15783357
Then at least take it to the extreme, get a grey side of the moon or dark side of them moon, something extremely monotone and stealth. Embrace it instead of beating around the bush. I know you don't need another speedy but just some examples of really stealth watches.
How about meteorite dials? Is that too flashy still? How about a GS snowflake dial?

>>15783375
I love the GS Snowflake dial, unfortunately I just don't really have room for a GS. I'd love a spring drive watch as my dress watch, but they don't really offer any without a date window and power reserve for less than like 10k.

>>15783381
Yeah that makes sense. I guess you have most things covered with your current collection I'm not really seeing where the gaps are other than maybe some fuckoff grand complication perpetual calendar. And those are all bloated and expensive.

>>15782811
Not the JLC ffs

>>15783386
Yeah I wear the Pelagos 90% of the time, so I don't really need another "everyday" watch, which is where most of the Grand Seikos sit. I do have the Stermanskie coming that's shown in >>15782811

>>15783338
no, its extreme terrible value, 50$ watch being sold at near 200$. just look at the flat printed dial, printed bezel, folded links and stamped out hands

even within timex itself its one of the worst purchases. Keep in mind they have actual miyota automatics at slightly more ($200), handwind seagull marlins at less ($130ish). And for about a hundred more you can get the new seiko5 sports range (the skx looking things) from grey vendors

you should only buy when you are abosolutely aware its 100% a fashion watch through and through and you dont mind spending the money

>>15783336
Why get both straps? Just curious why you mention that detail

>>15783408
Because tropic straps are super comfortable, look really good with that watch, and it's nice to have a nice soft rubber strap to wear sometimes instead of a bracelet. Also I'm in love with tropic straps right now. I just mentioned getting theirs because it's good quality and at decent price point. You could definitely get one off of aliexpress for $10 instead.
I did extensive research and this is the best tropic strap on aliexpress right now. Dozens of vendors sell it but this is the first one that came up.
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005001704192663.html

>>15783180
mall brand watches with the usual marketing fluff and some polish
nothing remarkable
You might as well go into the swatch group

>>15783345
Based.

>>15783372
LONDON

Any reason to buy a squale when chink shitters exist?

>>15783510
No, maybe for GMT watches but otherwise no. Get a chinkshitter with a pt5000. Apparently it's a very good eta clone.

>>15783320
Is this the generic reddit meme collection?

What is your upper quantity limit for a watch collection?

>>15782820
This one is really pretty

>>15783203
So much cringe

>>15783533
That's what people tell me. I guess having a small collection while still trying to cover a lot of bases is "very meme".

/wt/ you managed to meme a man into selling a perfectly good JLC for three memewatches.

>>15783592
What JLC model was it?

>>15783592
I haven't sold it, I'm just thinking about it. To be fair I got it used from a friend and I just haven't had much reason to wear it.

>>15783594
Master Ultra Thin Small Seconds

>>15783592
well he has not sold it yet
but i do agree with the rest that the collection needs a bit of livery
>>15782811
>>15782943
huh, wasnt expecting a sturmanskie, much less that one. What a surprise out of left field. Do post it when you get it. Ive not seen anyone here even having such a thing.

>>15783338
I got and it's a nice shitter. Too expensive for what it is but if you really like the looks then theres no harm in bying one.

>cant touch water
>soaks up sweat and stinks
>has to be swapped out regularly to prolong its life
>ideally should have a deployment clasp which adds even more bulk
>often too thick and unwieldy, or
>really expensive if you want nice thin ones
>cracks after some time
>darkens with age

are leather straps shit or shit?

>>15783597
>huh, wasnt expecting a sturmanskie, much less that one. What a surprise out of left field.
Outside of my daily-driver dive watch, most of what attracts me to a watch is a cool story. First watch on the moon, WWII German pilot's watch, now the first watch in space. The Stowa similarly because it's modeled after a marine chronometer or deck watch which were used to calculate longitude before GPS by comparing the local time you were in with Greenwich Mean Time.

Frankly that's sort of another reason the JLC doesn't particularly do much for me. I didn't buy it because of any interesting thing about it, I just needed a dress watch and my friend happened to be selling it. Granted I know that JLC is a major company who has supplied movements to Audemars Piguet, Patek Philippe and Vacheron Constantin, but there's not like a weird angle thing that attracts me to it.

The MeisterSinger, I'll be honest, just neat that it's got one hand.

Thoughts on the san martin milsub?

>>15783613
i say go for it
wear stowa as dress watch if u need

what are the chances that casio will refresh gw5000 with stn screen?

>>15783620
The new one? I ordered one recently. Overall it looks good there was an issue with the micro adjust on the bracelet but they fixed it.
My complaints are that the rehaut around the dial is painted black, i don't like the fake rivet bracelet, and that the case isn't brushed in between the lugs, under the end link for the bracelet it's just polished, i think the inside of the lugs is brushed.
These two videos both suck off the watch but they have the best shots and most complete info.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1wzMA_Jw91Q
https://youtube.com/watch?v=z_pITF2fQzI

>>15783628
>rehaut around the dial is painted black
why does that matter

>>15783630
It's something i associate with more edgy youthful watches or less traditional watch brands. It's not a huge problem and i think it helps accentuate the dial but if it was up to me i would rather have it be brushed stainless.

>>15783634
I have no idea why that even bothers you
what the fuck is wrong with you people

>>15783472
Ginger detected

>>15783382
Not bad

>>15783637
>what the fuck is wrong with you people
autism

>In celebration of its 85th anniversary, Porter has linked up with G-SHOCK for a special edition GM-5600 collab, built with the fashion luggage label’s iconic design sensibilities.
>Staying true to its own colors, Porter has dressed a matte black stainless steel GM-5600 with orange detailing coming in the form of text and outlines on the dial, which match perfectly with a unique wrist cuff constructed from the accessories brand’s Tanker nylon fabric.
>Two additional straps come with the timepiece, including the standard black resin band and a military-inspired olive NATO strap complete with black-finished hardware.
>The Porter x G-SHOCK GM-5600 will be available December 18 over on Yoshida & Co. for ¥39,800 JPY, or roughly $383 USD.

whos this watch for..?

No date masterrace

>>15783345
>>15783472
NWBG

>>15783649
hype beasts

>>15782779
Way to ruin the joke retard, just had to follow it up with your own bit. Fuck you

>>15783650
Is the bezel fully lumed?

>>15783650
As much as I vastly prefer the look of a no-date watch (especially a no-date diver), my daily driver watch has to have one. Frankly I'd love a day/date, but you don't tend to see day/date divers outside of budget offerings.

>>15783671
it is yeah, sapphire insert

>>15783637
how new are you to the whole watch thing?

The GS looks like a toy next to proper HH lmao

im trying to decide between getting an iwc cal83 or a cal89, which one would anon cop and why? (given i can find one of both of roughly equal quality)

>>15783679
Date is practical in a whim, but day? Unless you permanently pull night shifts and wake up dazzled, what good are they? Another reason if you travel a lot between timezones and use GMT or UTC or something, then yeah, daydate, but otherwise, I think they clutter the dial. Pic unrel.

>>15783691
>comparing a sports watch to a dress watch
the Lange literally looks like a DW

>>15783691
>.png of a youtube vid
Damn nigga. But ye, I never understood why GS are so fatt and bloated.

>>15783698
~spring drive~
also they put display casebacks on everything.

>>15783694
You'd be shocked at how rarely I actually know what day it is. When I was actually going into the office (before all of this COVID nonsense) it was an extremely common thing for somebody to say something like "hey, that think I asked you to work on, any chance it'll be done by Friday?" just for me to respond "depends, what is today?"

>>15783637
Honestly? I would have thought the same thing until you showed it to me. I hate it, too.

>>15783691
https://youtu.be/mEgtjXDkbBE

Yes the Lange is better, hugely better on the movement, but to be fair its also 3 times the price.

What are some vintage watches under 100€ that are easy to find with their original metal bracelet (that fits the bezel curve)?
All the modern alternatives to Seiko 5 are either too big or not mechanical.

God I want a spring drive but I cannot for the life of me justify spending that much on a watch.

>>15783628
>"Chinese shitters are such incredible value for money, look at the specs!"
>"Wtf stop cutting corners"

>>15782687
watches are for faggots

>>15783728
Any particular model in mind?

>>15783628
The fake rivet bracelet is not really a knock against the watch.
Tudor does it on the real BB. It's gay and rivet bracelets are stupid anyway but this isn't some Chinese cost cutting, they are faithfully reproducing the original.

>>15783700
Ah, I guess there are enough of people like you that the watch industry adapted to it and made it a thing. Never would have thought.

>>15783728
Then don't. That is why they are luxury items. Not essential but nice to have if you can afford them.

>>15783727
>under 100€ that are easy to find with their original metal bracelet
Delusional
>that fits the bezel curve
The fact you don't know the term fitted end links suggests you have no idea what you're talking about.
>Seiko 5 are either too big
Baby girl wrists
>not mechanical.
Post a quartz seiko 5 now

>>15783613
>The MeisterSinger, I'll be honest, just neat that it's got one hand.
Just get yourself a luch and save $

>>15783727
>All the modern alternatives to Seiko 5 are too big

are Orient Tristars too big for you? they have a wonderfully retro styling and they are cheap(100 burger tokens). 36.5mm, 42.5 L2L

i mean.. you probably -could- find some vintage soviet shitter/timex whatever still with its bracelet intact but it'll be a gamble on the movement which might need servicing

>>15783738
Probably the silver GMT or snowflake. Basic I know, but beautiful.
>>15783742
I realize that, yeah. I also don't think that, even if I did have one, I'll ever comfortably wear something that expensive on my dumbass wrist, so there's no point anyway.

>>15783740
not him
im a neet and i work from home
having the DAY displayed on the watch is a huge help to me.
otherwise I would have zero idea whether it's sunday or thursday.
I work everyday and theres no variance to my days, time just blends together into a featureless soup for me

>>15783759
Anon, a NEET is unemployed by definition.

>>15783759
You work from home, so I presume you work on your PC or laptop or whatever, do you really need a watch to tell you what day it is?

>>15783760
erm, ok
im a hermit then
i only go out to buy food (sometimes)
>>15783763
you have to mouse over the time display on the taskbar and wait for the popup to see the day. Versus being reminded of it whenever i look at my watch which is often

>>15782883
Another anon saying to not sell the JLC, I always liked that watch, probably the only 5k+ watch I like. Change the strap and you can dress that without any problem, it's not a gold watch, you can be casual with it, not saying to put it on a NATO, but a perlon/genuine leather or even a milanaise can fit that watch.

From that collection if I had to sell, this would be my order

1-Pelagos,nice but a bit generic and toy looking
2-speedy, nice but unless you really like moon/space stuff is not that good and you can get some money for it
3-Laco, pretty similar to an original model, its vintage or its new laco, if you like fliegers its a must have, if not, you can sell and get a chinkshit homage.
4-JLC, I wouldn't sell this watch unless I hadn't enough money for food.

Casio, never sell it, its good, you can beat it and its cheap, you wont get any money for it, its the watch that has more utility of your entire collection, if you want to use a watch in a non jewelry way, Casio is your friend.

>>15783750
Are they any good though in terms of build quality and finishing? Yes I know a one-hander is inherently a novelty watch but I'm also into luxury watches, I don't really love wearing watches that feel like junk. I tried on a Slow Jo once and it felt like it came out of a bubble gum machine.

no date gang reporting in.

>>15783628
I'm torn between this and the San Martin 62mas. Both a distant dream, like the more expensive oceAnus, until kopohavirus gets owned by vaccination, the economy recovers to the point where I'll have money again, and I'll get my debts squared away.

So here's to hoping San Martin isn't about to just die in the next year or two. They have some mouth-watering offerings, honestly, not just the divers -- their datejust looks very nice as well if expensive.

>>15783744
You can't make that kind of aggressive post when you're so shit at reading comprehension. It's the Seiko 5 ALTERNATIVES that are too big and/or not mechanical. See >>15782812

>>15783751
Thanks, I'll look into it.

>>15783772
That's actually the exact opposite of my order, *maybe* flipping Speedy and Laco. If I had to sell all but one it would be the Pelagos without hesitation. It's on my wrist 90% of the time. The Laco and Speedy get the next highest wrist time, probably then the G-Shock and then the JLC.

Like I said to the other guy I don't even think the JLC is necessarily to dressy to wear daily, I just really don't want to get it banged up that quickly. Being so expensive *and* fully polished I feel like I sort of need to baby it. Dress watch is sort of inherently a safe-queen, no?

>>15783781
Were I to ever buy a Submariner, the no-date would definitely be the move. I can't stand the cyclops date window that Rolex uses. I'm also personally not big on the mercedes hour hand though.

>>15783779
The build quality is fine long as you get one in SS and not plated brass, the movement is very reliable and actually has some history behind it. Yeah the finishing isn't great but if you want one just for the fact it has one hand I don't see the point in paying thousands extra for some case polishing. Even if you don't like it you're only down like 50 bucks

>>15783799
True, i suppose at the very least I should try it and see if it scratches the itch for that little money. Who knows, maybe I hate the 1-hander in general.

>>15783781
Seems like a lot of real estate with nothing to do. No cyclops I get, somewhat, Im in my early 30s and it DOES help at a glance, but dismissing date altogether, meh, personal choice, I guess. I wouldnt call either choice superior.

>>15783799
To add to this anon, if you are going for a one hander, you have two choices, a simplistic cheap piece or an eyecather that is going to cost you, for what it actually has. Pic rel is a very kino setup and once you get used to it, you will wonder why other watches use two-hand movements. If you can ommit a seconds hand on a dress piece, you will be right at home with a Meistersinger with a 5min dial.

>>15783803
There are other options, going wilder still.

>>15783779
get the 3.0 stainless steel version from their website (luch.by). I would avoid the plated coloured metal(pvd etc) ones

i bought one recently to gift to a normie friend and for what it is its surprisingly decent quality. Its a press back so theres a small protruding seam/lip in the middle. The winding and setting is solid, there's no wobble at all. The glass is very slightly domed, the steel is well polished and theres a small exhibition back with printed text on the metal. The indices are not flat print but with a very subtle raised effect

the packaging protection is almost nonexistent though, dont expect the box to survive well. Mine just came in a bubbled envelope.

hnnnnnngh

with meistersinger you have to look around their models, to catch which ones looke like aliexpress thin bezel shitters and which one look like actual aesthetic stunners

they have a lot of case and crystal variations

>>15783798
the cyclops is imo fugly. same goes with the maxi case on the newer subs. jeez, it's fucking terrible.
>>15783808
i'm in my twenties and i don't care much for a date. same goes for the 4-liner versions of subs. too much noise.

>>15783817
Going by that image it does at least look pretty nice. I will say I think I'll prefer the way Meistersinger does their markings, with emphasis on the 15 and 45 instead of on the 10s, but I'll definitely pick one of these up first as a test run at the very least.

>>15783821
>i'm in my twenties and i don't care much for a date

virgin cope

>>15783834
lol'd. good one

>>15783345
pure shit. it's proof how far /wt/ has fallen that they are tolerated and even liked here now

>>15782687
HELM is going to start having a waiting list for their watches. Should I get on it when they start one for the Khuraburi?

It finally came bros, I'm absolutely chuffed to bits.

The specs are unreal for the price, definitely the best value piece I have ever gotten. I was contemplating getting the silver one, but it looked kinda bland. The gold one screams class without having to pay an arm and a leg for the equivalent Swiss one.

>>15783892
looks gay

>>15783892
people get silver watches because gold plate wears and then looks cringe

>>15783889
>waiting list for a microbrand
Quit while you are ahead.

>>15783892
nice value
wear it in good health anon
how big is it
>>15783889
do it
you can always flip it later, their watches are in very high demand

>>15783075
Dan Henry
Certina
Jacques Lemans

>>15783612
are you a nigger or a nigger?

Wrist watch check!

>>15783939

>>15783898
>gold plate
If you're buying a gold watch that isn't gold filled you're messing up.

>>15783345
Great if you buy a replica of them.

Pic related, my top tier replica on a croc strap

>>15783939
wist wist wist WIST WATCH CHECK!

>>15783952
>If you're buying a gold watch that isn't gold filled you're poor
FTFY

Recommend me some more casual and fun straps for my semenmaster

>>15783978
>>15783612
Try cork.

>>15783976
this, you go full, real gold or nothing.
the only exception is if it's some vintage watch with a very unique design that is only available in gold and there is no modern equivalent.

>>15783320
Get a JLC Duoface Tribute so you have some colour but can retreat to the white face if you decide you can't bear to be seen in public with a blue watchface that day.

>>15783345
The external and movement finishing on most of their range is so mediocre that even used watch dealers can't tell the difference between real ones and fakes and won't take used Panerai's without box and papers for that reason.

Panerai is one of the ultimate modern triumphs of marketing and trendyness over watchmaking substance in modern times. A consummate pleb-catching brand.

>>15783996
Heh, I live in portugal so that would be appropriate. But I keep seeing a some green suede strap posted here and it does tickle me right.

>>15783978
i feel like your post was directed at me, Sir, and i thank you greatly for it!
*cooms uncontrollably*

>>15783381
>I'd love a spring drive watch as my dress watch, but they don't really offer any without a date window and power reserve for less than like 10k.
I assume the SBGY003 doesn't tickle your fancy then? Don't know how easy they still are to get a hold of, but it is a spring drive without date window or power reserve for less than 10k.

>>15783691
I've never liked the case shape and especially the indices on the Snowflake. They should have used a 44GS cased model or the new 62GS cased cherry blossom.

The external finishing on the GS withstands the comparison very well, considering the price gulf between the two. If you'd put a Rolex, Zenith, entry level JLC or the like next to that ALS they would have been utterly BTFO.

why half you fags always hating on my sweet explorer?

>>15784021
>The external and movement finishing on most of their range is so mediocre that even used watch dealers can't tell the difference between real ones and fakes
Also applies to Rolex, Cartier, and most other popular manufacturers.
>Panerai is one of the ultimate modern triumphs of marketing and trendyness over watchmaking substance in modern times. A consummate pleb-catching brand.
Nice meme perpetuated from the mid 2000s. Panerai makes more than their fair share of haute horlogerie. Panerai has a lot of issues - like poor water resistance on the Luminor Due and a glut of limited editions no one wants - but to act like they’re totally devoid of character and value is laughable. They’re no more reprehensible than Rolex or Omega.

>>15782811
oh nononononono

>>15784056
Not him but all you are saying is that Cartier, Rolex, and Panerai are equally overpriced junk coasting on namebrand faggotry.
Which I always knew but it's nice to hear someone else admit it.

>>15784052
This pic really shows just how much better the proportions of the 114270 are.

just wore my vostok while i fucked a girl, now it runs on kinetic sex energy, nice

>>15783652
¿Qué?

>>15783949
Aqua lung looks cool. But wait til he finds out about service costs of that thing. Putin didn't do him much of a favour with this.
>>15784052
Overexposure and too many times using some keywords. It dehumanized you and made you easier to hate. Because people are less inclined to shit on some guy that adds cool stories or fun memes to his watches. Repetition frustrates most 4chan posters. Then there is hidden envy and ofcourse the stigma against rolex, coming from years of hate towards the current issues with the rolex brand and luxury watches. Don't take too serious, enjoy the shitposting.

Right one looks better, proportions are nicer and it fits your wrist very well. Whats the story behind this? Planing to swap or just comparing?

Why would you buy a Seiko when you can buy a PAM?

>>15784062
36mm is always the best size,34mm for dressy watches.

The hands for my Sub project came and I finished it today.

>>15784059
> Not him but all you are saying is that Cartier, Rolex, and Panerai are equally overpriced junk coasting on namebrand faggotry.
I would argue almost every luxury watch is overpriced and coasting on name brand faggotry. There’s no real value proposition when looking at inherently irrational items like luxury watches. In my opinion people buy Rolex, Cartier or Panerai for iconic and recognizable designs first and foremost with a guaranteed level of quality second. I don’t view it as a real knock against any of those brands, it’s just inherent in the industry. AP and Patek certainly suffer from the same thing, but since they’re significantly more expensive and offer a better product all around they don’t catch as much flak for it.

The only way to get around the fake problem is to create some insanely autistic movement that is ridiculously hard to fake. Even then I have no doubt the Chinese would figure it out eventually but perhaps the cost and labor would be so high as to make it not viable to mass produce them. I don’t know if there are any Freak replicas around - I’m sure there are, but I’d be really impressed if they worked.

>>15784083
Looks clean. Did you relume the indexes yourself? Where did you source the case and movement from?
Glad people mod their shit. Hope more start doing it, it's fun.

>>15784056
>Also applies to Rolex, Cartier, and most other popular manufacturers
Panerai's external and movement finishing (but especially external) are significantly worse for the price than most of its competitors.

>Panerai makes more than their fair share of haute horlogerie.
Having other Richemont Group subsidiaries design and manufacture high end movements using Panerai's brand name does not do anything for the vast majority of its range being pleb catchers. That's like saying TAG's aren't plebcatchers because LVMH's advanced watch design group released some limited edition technically innovative watches using TAG branding.

>>15784094
I got the case, dial, hands, bezel insert and bracelet from Aliexpress. The movement was the old 7S26 movement from my SKX after I swapped it to an NH36.
I didn't relume anything and the lume is probably pretty shit.

>>15784094
>>15784110
This is a shot of the lume after charging it for a bit with my phone torch.

>>15784110
>>15784118
I see. Because it looked like you painted those pips and wanted to make them extra full with lume. The lume being like this is probably due to phone led's not being very strong or uneven charging. I'd try with something strong and evenly spread. Because the parts that light up are stronger than many regular dials. Fun project tho.

Here is my current/future collection. Shitty picture but you get the point.
Black square denotes what I own.
Red squares denotes 1 of 2 that i am looking to buy soon but am unsure which to get.
what do you guys think i should get? The speed or the prospex?

>>15784133
Ordinarily I'd tell you to get the speedy because you already have a seiko diver but that one is actually pretty nice, and you already have an omega with chronograph even if it isn't the iconic one.

>>15784103
>Panerai's external and movement finishing (but especially external) are significantly worse for the price than most of its competitors.
You’re welcome to your opinion, but I have a titanium Luminor Marina circa 2008 that is not noticeably better or worse finished than a modern Speedmaster Professional or Datejust. It has a worse finish compared to an LC Tank which cost ~3x what it did.
> Having other Richemont Group subsidiaries design and manufacture high end movements using Panerai's brand name does not do anything for the vast majority of its range being pleb catchers.
This is a frankly bewildering argument. Panerai has a patent on their tourbillon system and they have a manufacturing facility in Switzerland, opened when they moved their movement production in-house. They are one of the few brands pushing the envelope through materials science with carbon composites, 3D printing, and other weirder things. There is no, I repeat NO phantom brand in the conglomerate passing these material research secrets down to Panerai.

If you really want to make the argument that HH is irrelevant to the rest of the brand, that’s fine but it’s a far cry from your previous position that they are all marketing and no substance.

>>15784141
He's probably saying that because the lower end Panerai with the unitas are a complete and unjustifiable scam to anyone in the know.

Panerai sells a marine watch with 30m water resistance which shows that they are not a serious watch company.

>>15784147
I’m no great defender of Panerai. I criticize them as much as anyone else and already listed some grievances earlier in the thread. I’m just sick of idiots who obviously don’t know anything about the brand repeating criticisms from the early and mid 2000s that they read on Reddit or WUS. To state that they are all hype when the brand has not been in fashion for almost 20 years is a complete joke, and to handwave their pretty numerous innovations away as the result of Richemont telling daddy Vacheron to give them a tourbillon is blatantly uninformed.

>>15784155
>all criticisms of Panerai are illegitimate because you're just parroting WUS, only I can decide what is valid or not

Just got my first real watch a few weeks ago, Seiko Cocktail Time with green dial. Is nice

>>15784155
I kind of feel you, I posted my grail once and had to deal with people saying it wasn't shit because it's associated with channel

I don't understand this hobby. Why do people consider a collection like "Speedmaster, Submariner, muh G-Shock" good? Why do people recommend buying the most basic watches ever?

>>15784168
Actually if you post a collection like that here people will say it's boring.

>>15784168
Buying watches is not a hobby and anyone who considers it one is generally really dull and insufferable. Maybe if your collection has an actual theme like all watches from 1 company or something but that's not most watch enthusiasts.
Your best option is to ignore 90% of what you hear about watches because most of it is dickwaving and retarded market hype.

>>15784161
I have debunked every argument you’ve given. There are legitimate criticisms of Panerai to make. Here, I’ll help you:
>Luminor Due with 30m of water resistance is a joke
>Tasteless constant limited editions devalue current models
>Display backs on lower end models are pointless and should be done away with
>No ultra thin watch, the thinnest being the Due at 10+mm is horrific. Make an ultra thin 2 hand Radiomir at 42mm
>Steal some fuckers from Vacheron to do real movement finishing on the high dollar watches
>Steer marketing away from the dudebro retards that were attracted during the 2000s boom and toward people who actually know watches

>>15784179
>I have debunked everything because I am the Panerai authority, I decide what is right or not, I have that power to bunk and debunk and rebunk at will
>Here are the "real" arguments, not your fake arguments that I debunked
>BTW they're all your own arguments but when I say it it's right and when you say it it's fake news
Get a trip

>>15784076
thanks anon, this was a comparison from the friend I bought the watch from

he puchased the newer 39mm and rather than worrying about selling on the grey market he knew me, AD guy as I have been also called out here, with a stellar deal. So I sold my SMP (Pic related) and bought the 114270 from him. It was minty fresh in the pics he sent. The morning I shipped the SMP to the other side of the country I collected the cash and met my friend downtown in my super faggy city. It was a little tight so I ordered an after market link from texas to my gay country and it arrived yesterday. It fits and wears like a dream and I am very happy with it.

>>15784168
Because they're too poor to buy actually good and interesting watches, and those have the best price/value ratio in their specific categories.

>>15784180
Not an argument. Goddamn you got destroyed. Kneel before Panerai-sama.

>>15784129
I've got a UV torch somewhere, I'll try to find that as it should work better.

>>15784192
It's called a flashlight

>>15784167
Just remember that /wt/ is mainly populated by poorfag undergrads who have never handled anything more expensive or valuable than their dad’s Tag and who totally lack the guts to make their own choices. Why do you think half the posts in these threads are asking for advice on shitter Casio #1 versus shitter Casio #2?

>>15784198
Maybe if you're a septic.

Friendly reminder that wearing a G-Shock casually without the intent of doing physically demanding outdoor activities is fucking retarded and you should strap on a proper watch or cease existing.

>>15784138
I got the seamaster bc it was discontinued and wanted to get it before they became impossible to find. The seiko is already hard to find and has so much bang for buck on top of the aesthetics. The speedy has been discontinued as well and ive wanted one for years now. Its been a tough decision.. I may go with he seiko bc of how much it offers and bc you said it. Thank you for the input.

>>15783963
I wouldnt throw out 6k on a new one, or 3k for a used on, for that matter, but I love them none the less, only their pricing is IWC tier outrageous. How much did that run you and did you get it from Getat or an actual fake swiss watch site?
>Im looking for a transporter

>>15784023
hello?

might buy this

>>15784243
>45mm diameter
Kek

>>15784213
>you can wear a 300m+ diver only if you plan on getting wet
>you can wear a Stowa or LaCo only if you are about to bomb Holland
>you can wear a slide rule only if you plan on flying with all your intstruments broken
>you can wear a moonwatch only if you are actively deployed in vacuum

SPASS VERBOTEN!

Got my Pagani Autavia today, it seems pretty good quality for less than £50. I need to size the bracelet though and I bet it's an annoying pin & collar one.

>>15784213
That's actually a pretty low bar to hit, most people have done things like yardwork, warehouse work, or shooting guns

>>15784141
>I have a titanium Luminor Marina circa 2008
Panerai's cases and dials and hands are extremely simple to manufacture and finish, and the polished surfaces on their cases are all done on a high speed buffing wheel that slightly lozenges every surface it touches.The sandwich dials are easier to manufacture than adding machine applied indices or pad printing dials. The hands are all flat, stampable shapes with no edge cleanup and no polishing or brushing (as they're usually colored).

Now, fair, a 2008 Speedmaster Professional will have similarly shit external finishing because that was probably still in the period before Omega began fixing the pathetic state of their case/dial/hand/bracelet finishing. (Just compare a 2500 era Aqiua Terra to a current one side by side and you'll see how much Omega's external finishing has improved since the mid 2000s.)

I don't agree that the external finishing on your average Panerai is competitive with a Rolex Datejust from the same period. Rolex has crisper edges, crisper transitions between brushed and polished surfaces, less lozenged polished surfaces and case edges (because they use lapidary polishing machines not high speed buffing wheels), A Datejust has finished applied indices, three dimensional finished hands, and well executed bracelet.

Basically, in my mind Panerai's external finishing would be somewhat acceptable if they were charging Tudor or Omega prices, but they do not. Panerai charges Rolex/Zenith/GS/entry level JLC prices, and at that price point I don't think their external finishing or movements are nearly good enough.

>>15784259
Looks good. I quite like the texture on the dial.

>>15784141
>>15784272
>There is no, I repeat NO phantom brand in the conglomerate passing these material research secrets down to Panerai.
You mean besides Richemont’s ETA equivalent ValFleurier which develops and manufactures all of Panerai’s movements, as well as movements for Mont Blanc, Baume & Mercier, etc? Which also developed and manufacturers “Panerai’s” tourbillon? See link: https://monochrome-watches.com/watchtime-wednesday-panerai-became-manufacture/

Furthermore, much like the situation at TAG where the LVMH’s TAG Research Institute comes up with crazy innovative limited edition watches that have absolutely nothing to do with 99% of the product portfolio, Panerai’s HH models have absolutely nothing to do with awful price:quality ratio of most of its product line.

What's the best Reverso money can buy ?
I have a 277.2.62, what would be yours ?

Evening gents.
Today, I learned that everyone wants a Rolex Submariner and that they are too poor to afford it, according to Chrono24

>>15784292
I might just have to cop a sub, I want to quit this depressing, autistic "hobby" of looking at watches and buying up shitters. The sub seems to be the perfect one watch collection and I think I'd be done with watches for good. I didn't even care about watches, I just needed one, started researching it, bought one and didn't stop researching.

>>15784287
Assuming you mean base Reverso's and not Duofaces, then it's the Tribute Small Seconds in red or blue.

>>15784168
There are many approaches to this hobby, sadly many times the hobby is corrupted by money and many people will turn the hobby into just something to dump money following guidelines such as YT channels and websites, purchasing ''must have'' watches, classics, best value propositions...that's falling into the consoomer meme trap, meny ''collections'' from wealth people are not really collections and more specific items elected considering the perceived value on the market.

>>15784181
Glad you are happy with the swap. I like the omega more, but to each their own. Yeah, personal deals are often nicer. Gray market can get fucky and some people just don't have time/interest in learning all of the stuff you have to consider when dealing with it.
>>15784192
Sure you want to try out UV light? What if it reveals some specs on the dial and you won't be able to unsee them and it could annoy you?
>>15784198
There are special UV light flashlights. Often used to see the watermarks on money/documents or detect stains on materials. Black light is another name for it.

>>15784278
You know that this is standard practice in Swiss watchmaking for any company that is not fully vertically integrated right? La Joux-Perret does the same thing as Val Fluerier. La Joux-Perret has supplied movements to dozens of very high profile brands, though they were purchased by Citizen years ago.

It’s not uncommon for the prototyping of a movement to be done by another company like Val Fleurier, then the components to be assembled at a brand workshop. At this point you are grasping for straws pretty desperately. Is it no longer an in-house movement because there is another company involved? Are you also aware that Val Fleurier has designed and prototyped movements for Vacheron Constantin, like the cal 1326 in the VC FiftySix? Next you’ll be arguing that Vacheron is not worthy. Pathetic

>>15784078
NWBG

>>15784243
okay

>>15784167
Don't get discouraged from shitposting. You should have doubled down and shitposted your fashion shitter even more, for some butthurt. People are eager to hate on fashion brands but this thing is inhouse and unique design. So they have no reason to shit on it. I don't care much for the inhouse meme, if i like it then nothing but my decision will change my mind.

>>15784287
I don't know, but something with small seconds, and sword hands, and small, big tank watches are tasteless.

>>15784032
Thank god it was just the reflections messing it up, for a moment I thought the minute hand was hardly longer than the hour hand.

>>15783781
Iktfb

>>15784311
you are here forever

>>15784340
>>15784363
new phone who dis

>>15784032
dial it really nice
>>15784363
what happened to auto winding on this valjew

I removed it, it's broken but gonna try to fix it. It fell out of a locker onto hard floor.

>>15784213
I only ever wear mine to the beach

where I lie in the sun and drink beers

NEED WATCHES WITH BIG DOMES, NIGAAS

>>15784379
>>15784386
That's the dent left on the crown from the drop. Might be the hacking mechanism that's broken and stopping it. Can probably get the replacement part from ebay for cheap.

>>15784389
Why? So you can shove it up your ass?

should i cop or should i stop

>>15784403
Rolex rectum dweller

>>15784413
>nice bottle open...oh

>>15784413

>>15784417
Kek

>>15784347
I see that the goalpost moving has started now that your claim that Panerai did all its own movement R&D and manufacturing in house was shown to be flatly wrong.

In the first place, I never claimed that ValFleurier should be held against Panerai, only that the HH movements ValFleurier designs and manufactuers for Panerai have no bearing on the vast majority of Panerai's range being seriously overpriced relative to quality and reliant on marketing towards people who have money but aren't watch nerds (i.e. the Panerai, Hublot, IWC, Bell&Ross target demographic). You're the one who irately made the blatantly false claim that Panerai R&D's, designs, prototypes, or manufactures its movements in house without relying on another Richemont group subsidiary.

Also, yes, the 1326 is an ebauche supplied to VC by ValFluerier for their most entry level models and makes those models a terrible value compared to similarly priced JLCs. This is not because the movement is an ebauche, per se, but rather because the 1326 is basically a highly decorated ETA 2892-A2 competitor and isn't in the same class as the 889ac you'd find in a Master Control Date in either technical or finishing terms.

Panerai is a joke.

dont care i still love this one. the colors are so loud and impractical it makes it an anti-watch. its what a watch shouldnt be and thats why i love it.

>>15784243
Looks amazing but I have a feeling it's huge, is it?

>>15784243
it's massive and doesn't even have the precisionist movement

>>15784458
if you think about it, the colors are really practical. goes with anything you wear, perfect gift because everone's favorite color is on it, seperates the information well and presents it in a clear and visible way. objectively it's a great watch

>>15784458
its not horrible but honestly i dont see the point in the analog at all. many gshocks are like this but most dont putt of ani digi combo. just go full digital at that point

How much do I have to earn to buy a watch like this one?

late thread stalling huh

>>15784350
¿Qué?

>>15784503
10,000 grains of anthill sand

>>15784512
meaning?

>>15784259
What's the real version?

>>15784311
>I might just have to cop a sub, I want to quit this depressing, autistic "hobby" of looking at watches and buying up shitters. The sub seems to be the perfect one watch collection and I think I'd be done with watches for good. I didn't even care about watches, I just needed one, started researching it, bought one and didn't stop researching.
I wish there was a Sub alternative, it really sucks because I hate Rolex and I hate everyone who has it, but there's just nothing better for the price. Fuck everything and everyone.

>>15784524

>Tfw wristlet

>>15784523

>>15784536
sorry, no higher res. the image i took from some news article. it was cropped.

>>15784535
i was thinking like this but then i noticed that all the cool watches are <40mm anyways and look weird on fatties

>>15784535
Dont worry about it mate. Anyone who insults someone on predetermined genetics, and not something that can be improved upon is ultimate low iq

>>15784535
Just wear whatever you like bruh.

Is there a reference chart for lume strength on watch brands? Im not worried about getting the brightest lume but I just want to be sure im not getting sub par lume.

Casio shitters arrived from costco

>>15784560
they will be as soulless and the automoton bug chinks who assembled them on a slave production line

>>15784558

>>15784560

>>15784535
Then get yourself a 1950's vintage watch like an Omega or a Polerouter in 34mm

>>15784569
nice ediface, i think i want one

I JUST WANT ONE FUCKING WATCH IS IT REALLY THAT HARD

>>15784569
Are you a masochist? That is painful to look at let alone wear.

>>15784569
That Edifice looks great, post more.

New
>>15784580
>>15784580
>>15784580

>>15783691
What are you talking about, the GS absolutely mogs the Lange's external finish.

And if it's the styling you mean, you could just as well say the Lange looks like a Daniel Wellington if you want to trollz0rz

>>15784610
compare with GS

>>15783711
>>15784040
The GS is miles better than the Lange in terms of external finish.

>>15784490
Also, G-Shock is meant to be tough, and moving parts aren't making it any tougher, that's for sure.

>>15784395
>>15784531
get a movement holder you fuck. rodico is gonna leave smears on everything.

>>15784032
Yeah that dial pattern just seems too busy for a dress watch to me.

>>15784083
I really love the big lolipop seconds hand

>>15784535
Best sizes are 34-36, so you should be fine.

>>15784569
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>>15784825
Thanks

>>15784213
I go to the gym when I wear my g-shocks or have to move shit around at work. Does that count?

>>15783232
you think his pic actually looks good?

>>15783350
They have a 38mm

>>15784552
But iq is at least partially genetic thus making you low iq too

>tfw when watches are low iq in general making you low iq as well

>>15784083
another builder on /wt? nice

thoughts on this Carrera?

>>15785639
Oh wait I posted the wrong one.

>price on request
but like
why

>>15785586
This was my first attempt, I might make myself a Seiko Tuna too. They sell the cases on Aliexpress.