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One Watch Collection Edition

This thread is about the appreciation of watches and their design, their history, and the engineering and materials that are required to make a functioning timepiece.

Guides:
> Poorfag guide: https://m.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV (embed)
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2 (embed)
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE (embed)

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size

Old bread >>15764028

>> No.15766274

what time is it

>> No.15766292
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>>15766265
>Not buying the blue dial, dauphine hand model

>> No.15766296
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>>15766274
I don't know, I don't own a watch

>> No.15766303

post fliegers that are under $500. i want one

>> No.15766310

>>15766303
Laco Augsburg or Aachen
San Martin Flieger
Tisell pilot watch

Those are your main choices.

>> No.15766315

https://www.shoppinginjapan.net/casio-protrek-prw-1500yj-1jf
https://www.shoppinginjapan.net/casio-protrek-prw-1500yj-1jf
https://www.shoppinginjapan.net/casio-protrek-prw-1500yj-1jf
WHY IS THIS DISCONTINUED IT'S PERFECT

>> No.15766318
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Out exploring this fine Saturday

>> No.15766319

day 7 of UPS holding my package in customs and not telling me if, how, when i should pay fees.

>> No.15766320
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15766320

>>15766292
A beginner's mistake, although the Duoface version is even better imo

>> No.15766321

>>15766310
those laco have "Laco" on the dial though. that doesnt look right

>> No.15766322
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Bonsoir /wt/

>> No.15766324

>>15766315
No one bought it because it's horrific.

>> No.15766325

>>15766320
Very nice.

>> No.15766333
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15766333

I wear Reverso.

You wear Cock.

>> No.15766337
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>>15766333
based trips

>> No.15766338

>>15766321
Stowa make those ones you look for

>> No.15766368

https://www.mtmwatch.com/

Does anyone know anything about these?

>> No.15766373

Why would I buy anything but a $200 Casio Solar G-Shock with radio/atomic time keeping? It’s more accurate, durable, and long lasting than anything else. I have a Khaki Field automatic, Vostok Amphibia, Seiko 5, Orient Bambino. Those are all useless compared to the G-Shock. I hardly ever wear them except the Khaki Field when I feel in a automatic mood.

I guess for fashion? But then why would I spend $2,000 or more on a Nomos when a $200 Junkers looks the exact same and nobody can tell the difference. $5,000 for an Omega or Rolex? A fool and his money are easily parted.

If you spend more than $200 on a watch, you are wasting your money.

>> No.15766376

>>15766373
Good points anon. Alright guys I guess its time to shut down /wt/

>> No.15766383
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15766383

I fell asleep last night looking the the lume on my watch glowing from the bedside table. It made me smile.

>> No.15766392

>>15766373
> If you spend more than $200 on a watch, you are wasting your money.
Thanks for the advice. I wonder how I've made over $100k by trading watches in the last 3 years then?

>> No.15766395

>>15766376
Am I wrong doe? Non-smart watches themselves are basically obsolete. If you must get one, get a beater that will last a lifetime and a cheap fashion watch. You’re wasting your time and money getting anything beyond $200. Nobody cares about your 5 grand Swiss designed shitter (majority of parts drilled manufactured in China) except for autisismos who are secretly self loathing envious cretins who are either addicted to wasting money (watch buying) or trying to justify spending 2 grand on their forgettable Swiss shitter


>>15766392
Because you’re lying on the internet. I’ve made $100,000,000 buying and selling Seikos. get on my level bitch

>> No.15766399

Is there any watch guide or website where watches are distilled into their quintessence based on type or type/price ratio, or something like that?

For example, something where you'd analyze 100 flieger watches, 100 field watches, 100 divers, etc. and eliminate everything so that you get only a handful or single option that's best (maybe in a few categories - best heritage, best buy, best features, that sort of thing).

I'm asking about this because I've been reading about watches for a few years now, and for 90% of watches, I can find another watch that makes them essentially pointless (and it's not even always a Rolex so don't start that shit).

>> No.15766401
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15766401

I bought this Seiko Sports 100 from a Salvation Army for a $1 years ago is it worth taking in to get fixed? The hands are discolored and do not move at all

>> No.15766404

>>15766395
> Because you’re lying on the internet.
pick a brand

>> No.15766406
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>>15766368

>> No.15766411

>>15766373
mechanical watches arent supposed to be practical. watches are jewlery, except instead of precious stones and metals, its engineering and craftsmanship

>> No.15766412

>>15766325
Thank you anon. It's a super watch, pictures really don't catch how it looks in real life

>> No.15766418

>>15766401
I say it’s worth it. Vintage Seiko quartz divers have a solid collectible market, and there’s always people looking out for them. Get it fixed and wear it in good health.

Get the movement number and pick up a donor watch with the same, but working movement. It seems that all you need is a movement swap. I’ve had a fellow WUS nerd do a similar project for me, and he did it quickly and cheap!

>> No.15766422
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>>15766368
>MOVEMENT
>Japanese Quartz – Miyota OS-80
>€1000+ for a reskinned quartz shitter
OH NO NO NO

>> No.15766432

>>15766373
If you don't find anything interesting about mechanical watches then there definitely isn't a point to you buying them.

That doesn't mean that there aren't watches with similar accuracy, good durability, that will be long lasting. There are some extremely well made quartz watches out there that are accurate to 10 seconds a year, 5 seconds a year or even 1 second a year without needing to depend on any external reference time. There are even solar radio sync Casio models that are much nicer than a G-Shock for ~$500. But, again, there is no point in looking at them if you don't appreciate the things about them which make them more expensive.

>> No.15766436

Is the Glycine Airman literally the only GMT worth getting under 38mm?

>> No.15766438

>>15766418
>Get it fixed and wear it in good health.
kill yourself faggot

>> No.15766441
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15766441

for future reference

>really like the Planet Ocean GMTs for their antimagnetism
>read through pic
>dont know where to go from there
Whelp, I guess GS it is then

>> No.15766450
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15766450

i usually have the day set to english but it looks more interesting with the japanese

38mm seiko 7N48-7A00

>> No.15766458

>>15766450
do you know how to read the days of the week in japanese? otherwise you are being a weeb retard

>> No.15766459

>>15766441
It’s really not that bad. My impression of Omega’s integration of a coaxial movement is that it’s a wash. No real benefit, but no real obvious downside these days. A watch having one wouldn’t keep me from buying it. I think Omega made a bigger deal of it for marketing memes but didn’t expect people to be skeptical at best of it anyway.

A GS is an objectively better watch in many ways though...if you like their design. They make a lot of fucking ugly watches.

>> No.15766464

>>15766458
im a weeb who cares

>> No.15766465

>>15766441
Quartz always wins in practicality, no contest.

>> No.15766467

>>15766441
With the modern 85xx and 95xx co-axials I would say that as long as you are prepared to get them serviced every 5-7 years max and not to try and push the service intervals based on the co-axial meme, don't let it stop you from buying a watch that you really like.

I would never buy a used Omega with a 25xx though.

>> No.15766469

>>15766465
What if you're that guy who plans to live in the woods?

>> No.15766474
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>>15766310
Seiko snk803 (or any other snk80*) could be considered as Flieger by it's dial.

>> No.15766478
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15766478

>>15766441
Many modern Rolexes are also anti-magnetic. Maybe less so than the Omega-Coaxial movements but how much do you really need? If you work at a magnet factory you might but nobody else does. Also you can usually get your watch demagnetized by your local watchmaker.

>> No.15766485

I'm gonna buy a Sinn watch and it's not gonna be one of the 15mm tall chronographs, going to wear it as a general use casual watch
104 105 or 556

>> No.15766488
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>>15766467
Good to know, thanks ! 5-7 years is a long time as is for servicing, to me at least.

>>15766465
>being practical
I would just buy a solar watch and call it a day, but where perhaps is the fun in that ? Especially knowing that I have a few lol

>>15766478
>Many modern Rolexes are also anti-magnetic
And while that may be true, the GMT is well out of my means.

>>15766485
The blue 104 is quite handsome imo

>> No.15766493
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>> No.15766497

>>15766485
The 556 is the most versatile
I find the 105 the most fun though, at least the black version
Don't really like the 104

>> No.15766508

>>15766497
>>15766485
On second thought, i would say it would come down to the 104 blue or 105 in black. The center day\date alignment is really nice.

>> No.15766529

>>15766469
you can pick up a watch battery when u go on your quintennial supply trip into civilization

>> No.15766536
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15766536

a 321 SNEED for sale from 1967, one time own

>8500

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.15766540

>>15766536
I've seen vintage 321 speedies go for a lot more on chrono24 to be honest familia.

>> No.15766546

>>15766493
gamer gear
rise up

>> No.15766549

>>15766536
>8500
>For a vintage 321 Speedmaster he allowed the Swatch Group Service Center to butcher
lmoa

>> No.15766662

>>15766322
based

>> No.15766675
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>>15766469
>after a suppsed apocalypse, which are more common or easier to find?
>a button battery
>replacement parts and watch oil with knowledge on where and how much to apply

Mechanifags dreaming about an EMP are a good source of laffs, meanwhile my bragain bin shitter is keeping better time than your astronomical observatory certified chronometer meme bunch of overpriced china-made shit.

>> No.15766684

>>15766392
By being a sociopathic piece of shit just like in every other industry, that dude was talking about normal people.

>> No.15766687

>>15766675
what movement is that
looks cool

>> No.15766697
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15766697

>>15766478
You can do it yourself with a €12 gizmo. The question is why should you in the first place when you paid 3-6-12 grand for a SWISS MADE meme. Mechanifag companies are just trying to keep up with three or four decade old tech just to stay relevant and try to stay in business by trying to meme "horology". No, nigga, a bucktooth €50 quartz trashcan will keep better time and be more resilient to outside forces like smacks and magnetism.

All mechanical watch -thing- is a cope and looking for solutions that have been answered decades ago (Sinn, Damasko, Omega). Romanticism and finishing are the only selling points of todays mechanical pieces. Nivarox, gas fillings, silicone whathaveyou, you have ALL been passed 30 years ago with a cheap as chips battery powered mass-produced movement.

>> No.15766698

>>15766441
You can summarize all that in one word
>cuck-axial
also
>GS
kek if you thought omega servicing is bad, GS service makes it look good.

>> No.15766702
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>>15766469
then you get one of these and change the capacitor out every 25 years.

>> No.15766722

>>15766469
Did you know that watch oils have an expiry date? If you ever even opened the back of your watch to do anything you'd know.

>> No.15766725

>>15766722
just rub some deer or boar fat on the movement

>> No.15766730

>>15766469
you can have a watch that sits alone in a room completely unwound for 10 year straight and it would still need to be serviced in order to work

>> No.15766733
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15766733

>>15766265
Any alternative to the Khaki Field Automatic Men's Watch H70455733 below the 400 USD mark? Or is it better to save up for a more expensive watch like the Tissot Gentleman 80

>> No.15766736

>>15766725
genius

>> No.15766739

on the topic of innawoods watches, what is a good watch that is under $300? it would have to have useful features like temp and what not

>> No.15766741

>>15766739
apple watch

>> No.15766810

>>15766315
it looks like it's covered in abcesses

>> No.15766824
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15766824

Black or Blue?

I have a number of black dials.
Straps hard to match with the blue dial?
Braclets worth it?

>> No.15766828

>>15766824
For me, that blue doesn't suit the aesthetic of the watch. I'd go black every time. Also, Damasko's bracelets are expensive but extremely well made.

>> No.15766854

>>15766493
>more Genta homages

>> No.15766858

>>15766824
Normally I like blue but that one is a bit to bright for me.

>> No.15766863

>>15766824
Black
I really love that they upgraded to the X1 grade of superluminova, maybe it barely makes a difference but It's still the best available atm.
I love the bracelet and think it's 100% worth the money. Wether or not you get it comes down to what aesthetic you want from the watch. The bracelet definitely adds a more aggressive and heavy look.

>> No.15766865

>>15766854
kek

>> No.15766868

Can I get a list of the shill youtuber microbrands to avoid?
>mvmt
>vincero
>dan henry
>nth

>> No.15766874
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15766874

>>15766824
Hnnng, it's so good bros.
I don't think anyone else other than Rolex and maybe some of the trinity make their own bracelets 100% in house. I know omegas are made in China.

>> No.15766876

>>15766868

You are comparing two fashion watch brands that are selling alibaba dogshit that costs 5 dollars to make for 200, with two microbrands that is alibaba okay shit that costs 200 to make selling for 400-500. Some microbrands are good some aren't but I don't think you know what you are talking about when you compare mvmt to dan henry.

>> No.15766877

>>15766824
Black

>> No.15766880

>>15766824
Black, but why not just get this instead?

https://www.amazon.com/CASIO-OCEANUS-OCW-S100-1AJF-tough-solar/dp/B0073B4KVO/

>> No.15766883

>>15766741
good luck charging the watch while outside the grid.

>> No.15766890

>>15766876
What would a good/bad list be? Is a $200 cost alibaba watch selling for $500 worth getting in your opinion?

>> No.15766892

>>15766874
On their mid-range and up models, Seiko manufactures their cases and bracelets in-house in Japan.

It would also be my expectation than any legit haute brand would make their own bracelets in house as well.

>> No.15766893

>>15766438
Why are you angry at me?
_____________________
God bless

>> No.15766897

>>15766824
that blue is awfully bright.
I guess it's ok since the bracelet makes it sporty, but I don't think I've seen a blue dial that bright outside of swatch

>> No.15766900

>>15766880
>Ocean of the Anus
No but seriously that thing is huge and a completely different watch than the damasko.
The oceAnus has that nice self correcting tuff movement quartz with radio time set an all those bellsband whistles, it's titanium with a titanium bracelet. It's pretty fantastic overall.
It's also like 43mm compared to the 39mm Damasko which is an automatic watch made out of surface hardened steel with a newly released movement that looks pretty dam durable and shock resistant for an automatic.
Still very different watches.
The oceAnus looks great and has some fantastic details but it has shades of that casio mall watch edifice style.
The Damasko is very austere and has and is 100% focused on legibility over everything else.

>> No.15766902

>>15766824
I really want to know why the blue dial version costs 100€ more than the black dial.

>> No.15766914

>>15766890

Depends on the specifications, things like automatic movements and sapphire crystal, good quality of polishing etc are good indications. Most microbrands make their own designs and have chinks assemble them and you are paying a little premium for the design. The very best value for money would be direct from the factory chinese brands such as Cadisen, San Martin, Pagani Design, Guanqin on aliexpress. You are getting lots of great specs for the smallest mark up possible, however the designs are often blatant ripoffs of swiss luxury designs if you care and chinks don't do much QC.

>> No.15766920

>>15766890
>>15766914

Also any watch company that engages in significant social media especially Instagram advertising is basically a drop shipping scam. These are your bauhaus minimalist mvmt type shitters. If you really want those just buy cheap ones off of ali.

>> No.15766921

>>15766733
hello is the tissot gentleman powermatic 80 movement ok?

>> No.15766929

>>15766902
Its the robby strap, if you spec them with the same strap they cost the same.

>> No.15766937
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>>15766824
Black. Unless you want to have some more color in your collection. Bracelet is probably the best in the world but it ain't cheap for sure.
Either way good choice bro.

>> No.15766950

>>15766739
bump

>> No.15766951

>>15766900
>casio mall watch edifice style
I love how everyone started saying this after I introduced it to /wt/ as a concept. Dance, puppets, dance!

>> No.15766955
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15766955

what would a watch AVGN be like

>> No.15766964

>>15766955
a casio a700

>> No.15766997

>>15766964
no I mean an AVGN style review of a watch
>this lume is ASSSSS
>I'd rather have a horse shit in my mouth than WIND THIS SHITTY FUCKING MOVEMENT AGAIN
etc

>> No.15767001
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15767001

Where can i buy one of these milled clasps with the push button divers extension?

>> No.15767027
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15767027

>>15767001
All the bonetto cinturini cut to fit straps come with these crappy stamped clasps.

>> No.15767030

>>15766675
what watch is this? looks solid

>> No.15767041

>>15766900
Think it's like 41mm and that might include the crown since casio is weird. Still bit bigger tho

>> No.15767044
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15767044

*mogs your swiss shitter so hard it changes identity*

>> No.15767047

>>15767030
I thought it was one of the modern bulova accutron movements but it doesn't look like it. A reverse image search just turned up a bunch of articles using the image without saying what watch it's from.

>> No.15767051

>>15767041
>The case measures about 41mm in diameter, about 11 mm thick and about 46 mm lug to lug.
Yeah you are right it's bigger but not as big as i thought

>> No.15767064
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15767064

What watch does costanza wear?

>> No.15767067

>>15767064
Impossible to tell at that resolution.

>> No.15767075

>>15766265
Considering how hot and humid where I live, I have to take it off in the sun and wear it only in the office or something

The leather strap will definitely get fucked by my sweat in a year or two otherwise

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>>15767067

>> No.15767102
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Looks kinda like an orient bambino
george would totally wear an ortient kek

>> No.15767104

>>15766469
solar powered quartz obviously

>> No.15767105
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15767105

Can anyone id good ole Jocko's watch to the exact model please?

>> No.15767117

How do I get the date to change at midnight?

>> No.15767118
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15767118

Navitimer for Jerry

>> No.15767121

>>15766937
ew is there cum on your crystal?

>> No.15767129

The band broke on my second f91w, just as it did on first. Considering buying a g-shock instead. Are they better or the same trash just more expensive?

>> No.15767131

>>15767129
Buy a Rolex and move on

>> No.15767138

>>15767117
Set the date to one day before today. Turn the crown until the date switches to today, that's midnight, keep going to the desired time.

>> No.15767139

>>15767129
the band will always break because it's plastic and it becomes brittle with time due to the accumulation of stress, heat, and sweat. it is always the first thing to go and it happens to g-shocks too.
you have 2 options, you can buy a g-shock and buy secondhand adapters which will make the watch a bit bulkier but allow you to use any straps you want and not just be stuck with proprietary g-shock ones (so you can put indestructible nylon straps of your choice on it). or you can simply buy an 18mm strap of your choice and put it on your f91w
but the f91w sucks anyway, I'd upgrade

>> No.15767141

>>15767121
Possibly. But don't think so tbqh.

>> No.15767142

>>15767138
I mean you turn the crown to set the time, not the date.

>> No.15767153

>>15767142
Also might be a good idea to have the hour hand at 6 when you start just to be sure. If it's at 12 you might get problems I don't know.

>> No.15767160

>>15767129
put it on a 22mm nato strap retard

>> No.15767169

So I'm looking at the Hamilton Converter at 42mm, am I right in saying it would be too big on my wrist? I'd say mine is 6 inches in circumference but its probably closer to 5.9.
Bit of a bummer since the next smaller one would be a Breitling at 3x the price.

>> No.15767171

>>15767169
>am I right in saying it would be too big on my wrist?
Yes.

>> No.15767178

What is the ULTIMATE tool watch, in two categories, mechanical, and quartz?

Let's list what it should have as a mechanical watch first:
>chronograph
>diver (proper water resistance and visibility)
>good lume and visible markers
>no ceramic anywhere
>possibly GMT
>timer/diving bezel
>sapphire crystal
What did I miss?

For quartz it would be:
>subsecond chronograph
>solar powered, battery/capacitor lasting for at least 10 years
>atomic/radio/GPS time sync
>again water resistance, shock resistance
??? What else? Temp/alti/baro sensors? Compass? Alarms?

>> No.15767188

>>15767171
k thanks I hate my genes now

>> No.15767190

>>15767105
It’s a Timex T66801. These were originally $100 on Amazon, but now they’ve gone up in price because of Jocko’s celebrity.

>> No.15767192

>>15767188
Go vintage familia, there's plenty of choice (as long as you research whatever you're looking at properly so you don't get a franken or whatever) and it'll likely be small enough.

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15767200

>>15767131
>Buy a Rolex

>> No.15767202
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>>15767200

>> No.15767215

>>15767188
I feel ya fellow wristlet bro.
I wish i could help but all the slide rule bezel watches are pretty big.
Focus on lug to lug length (not lug width) you should be able to get away with anything 44mm or smaller up to maybe 46 if the lugs have a good curved shape against the wrist and the bracelet or strap can hang straight down.

>> No.15767219

>>15767202
>cucksplorer

>> No.15767226
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15767226

>>15767178
This one for mechanical. I should have bought one when they were cheap on Jomashop.

>> No.15767231

>>15767226
>those retarded lines
>valjew

>> No.15767232

>>15767226
Literally why does every good watch (except for the CUT NUMERALS) get discontinued?

>> No.15767234
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15767234

>>15767178
This one for quartz [ GPR-B1000-1JR], has all the things you listed

>> No.15767235

>>15766955
THE WRIST WATCH

>> No.15767238

What's the deal with non-flanged springbars? Do they have any benefits over regular ones?

>> No.15767244
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15767244

>>15767232
You can still get this one. No comfy wavy fortis bezel though.

>> No.15767249

>>15767226
>>15767244
>no subsecond markers

>> No.15767260

>>15767249
I hate that shit makes the chapter ring look ugly as fuck
fuck you and your shit taste

>> No.15767298

>tfw i'll never own a Traditionnelle

>> No.15767310
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15767310

>37.5mm
>14mm thick
>around 1700 EUR
thoughts?

>> No.15767315

>>15767310
most boring watch i have ever seen

granted, it looks nice

>> No.15767358
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15767358

Posting a bump. Y'all is boring me tonight

>> No.15767359

>>15767200
You could buy a lady datejust with a diamond bezel immidiately in an AD though

>> No.15767406
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15767406

Heavily considering getting a Panerai as I like their styling. Had a chance to go try one on today. A little worried my wrist might not be enough for a 44mm. Am I just being paranoid, what do you guys think?

>> No.15767408

>>15767310
>valjew

>> No.15767412

>>15767406
How big is your wrist? Honestly looks fine panerai aren't meant to be small lol

>> No.15767419

>>15767406
This big watch trend is dying faster than African aids babies

>> No.15767425

>>15766824
stop filling up your box with BORING black dialed watches that all vaguely look the same

have some IMAGINATION for once, stop being a PUSSY and enjoy some COLOUR

jesus

>> No.15767428

>>15767406
panerai is such a dogshit company that literally got their start from buying movements from rolex.

>> No.15767430

>>15767406
They make a lot of Luminors in 42mm. That one looks big on you but cell phone pictures always make watches look bigger and Panerai are obviously on the bigger side anyway.

>> No.15767432
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15767432

>>15767428
They’ve come a long way since then gramps.

>> No.15767435
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15767435

>>15767412
About 6.75 in. The 42mm looks just a hair too small, but I really dig the 44 more.

>>15767430
I took another picture from a different angle and it looks fine, but in other angles it looks big as well.

>> No.15767437

>>15767428
>start from buying movements from rolex
how did rolex get their start again?

>> No.15767446

>>15767435
Looks good from that angle. I say go for it. I have an older tobacco dial 44mm Luminor Marina in titanium that I really enjoy. I got used to the size after wearing it a few days.

>> No.15767453
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15767453

Should I pull the trigger on this watch? Looking for a casual watch to wear and I like the blue dial, but was wondering how versatile it would be with outfits that have a predominantly black color scheme/if it would clash. Already have a black dial watch but without the complications.

>> No.15767455
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15767455

>>15767178
acrylic >sapphire when it comes to durability

acrylic gets scratches that can be easily polished away
sapphire shatters like glass when you drop it wrong

>> No.15767456

>>15767435
Looks good m8. The largeness is part of the panerai look

>> No.15767460

>>15767453
anon thats a midnight blue thats very muted anyway
dont be afraid of colour
blue is like the 3rd most popular after black and white

>> No.15767463

>>15767460
Hmm. I see your point about that muted blue. Thanks for the advice.

>> No.15767466

>>15767435
cute boobs

>> No.15767471

>>15766322
What model is this? Do they make it anymore

>> No.15767473

>>15767435

Is that PAM312? Looks fine from that angle.

>> No.15767482

>>15767455
Just don't throw your watch across your kitchen on to your tile floor and it's not a problem.

>> No.15767490
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15767490

Anybody tried one of these single-handed watches?

>> No.15767507

>>15766322
Looks damn good, french friendo. The plastic bezel screws and the amount of wear look so comfy.

>> No.15767517

>>15767482
>just baby your tool watch like a dress watch and you'd be fine

>> No.15767518
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15767518

>>15766322
Tres kino mon ami

>> No.15767521

>>15767044
What am i looking at here? The smaller is the japanese one? But the bigger one is easier to service i guess. Not that i want to defend the swiss tho.

>> No.15767526
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15767526

>>15767105
This guy and the copypastas about him are comedy gold.

>> No.15767528

>>15767521
Nobody is servicing those things
It's hilarious that they advertise them as reparable as if anyone with bother trying to fix an $8 movement

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15767532

>>15767129
Buy a new band and don't wear it so tight, fatso. It's beyond me how you tards manage to break these casio bands.

>> No.15767547
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15767547

>>15767490
>diameter:43mm
i have a single hand watch and I love its simplicity, its not a MS though
its also not as user unfriendly as some people think it is, personally quick-reading it is on par or even better than a normal watch. Knowing that "oh its roughly 8:45pm" is enough for me

you could get a red star or a luch for $100 (both share the same movement) and try out how a single handed watch would work for you before fully committing to a $2000 MS

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15767551

>>15767518
Good stuff, I have one just like this and I love it to pieces.
Currently wearing my Pepsi 009, it's a great watch for the price and I love the colours. The lume is fantastic, too.

>> No.15767552
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15767552

Should I..

>> No.15767560

>>15767552
if you are looking at a baltic you should pull the trigger already
nothing will come close $500 north or south
there was an anon who spent weeks agonizing over it even though it was clear nothing else would hit the same itch

>> No.15767561

>>15767528
I'd do. Would love to be able to take it apart and replace the faulty components. Feels way better than bringing it into service and feeling ripped off later, because you don't know enough about the movement to tell if it's all legit that has been done. I like feeling in control with these things.

>> No.15767566

>>15767547
They have smaller ones, I think 38mm and 40mm, that was just the first to come up on Google.

Yeah. nobody schedules a meeting for 10:47, I feel like knowing the five minute intervals should realistically be plenty.

>> No.15767579

>>15767560
That may have been me when I was looking at their chronographs. This is a toughy. Also was looking at lorier but I don't like how they only have lume at the 12 oclock on the bezel. Love their gilt though it looks like gold where the baltic gilt looks more like a dull brass

>> No.15767584

>>15767552
I would get a BOSTOK instead honestly

>> No.15767592

>>15767117
If it's not, there's no way but to re-set the hands.

>> No.15767594

>>15767579
nah it was someone else, he was looking at the exact same diver >>15767552 and it was like 3 months ago

>> No.15767597

>>15767584
None have "that look" for me
>>15767594
I'm tempted to get it if I make enough holiday pay

>> No.15767608
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15767608

When are these gonna get a US release?

>> No.15767610

>>15767597
i think aesthetically its a very handsome diver, even though im not a diver person at all. Everything is just right and theres a very good balance.

>> No.15767656

>>15766459
>A GS is an objectively better watch in many ways though...if you like their design. They make a lot of fucking ugly watches.
But GS is a bigger meme than Omega and Rolex

>legendary zaratsu sword polishing technique
Zaratsu is actually the Japanese pronunciation of the German word Sallaz, the name of the German manufacturer which appeared on polishing machines acquired by Seiko in the 1950s. Regular GS models do NOT have hand finishing cases
>springdrive
A trivial technology as old as quartz itself. No other producer cares about it because if you want an accurate watch using quartz - just make it into a regular quartz movement
>hi-beat
9S85 is just a 9S65 with increased beat rate and therefore reduced power reserve. It does not provide a better accuracy and is actually a less robust movement because of the increased wear by higher friction

9S65 is a decent yet somewhat ordinary movement that does not have legendary reliability of R31xx and is less advanced than R32xx, O8xxx, UN-118, MT56xx in terms of antimagnetism, service intervals and even accuracy and positional variations.
Their newest 9SA5 movements is an amalgamation of existing technologies developed by Swiss competitors including a variation of co-axial itslef, which seems to be costing a fortune.

What they do have is superb dials finishing that matches higher level Swiss brands (Breguet, VC, PP). That however would better fit elegant dress pieces and look odd on GS clumsy sportish (casual?) line. And given that most of those dials don't have lume, GS bracelets provide mediocre comfort and quality, and zaratsu polishing is getting quickly destroyed by scratches from daily usage - AT, Expo, Sub seem far better candidates for ultimate one watch collection.
The only real reasons to go for GS are either if you put dial finishing above everything else, or just love the brand itself and don't care about rational choice.
Otherwise Tudor provide better vfm than either GS, Omega or Rolex.

>> No.15767681

>>15767656
>But GS is a bigger meme than Omega and Rolex
Hows that? Only watch nerds know what a GS is. Rolex and Omega has normie brand recognition.
>Zaratsu
Yeah agreed. Its not nearly as big a deal as it's made out to be.
>springdrive
idk, a completely smooth sweep is cool.. It's overrated (and fuck trying to get it serviced outside of Seiko) but it's still interesting and innovative
>hi-beat
since neither Omega or Rolex (to my knowledge anyway) offer a hi-beat of any kind it's interesting. The Zenith Daytona had an El Primero movement which they dropped the bph because Rolex can't fucking service high beats, or doesn't want to. Worth pointing out.
>9s65
I have one in my SBGR071. Its deadly accurate. Something something in-house, good to mix it up.
>superb finishing
You got it. Thats the reason you buy a GS. Its cause you an autist who's obsessive about dumb details and aren't super impressed by the Swiss offerings >inb4 someone posts that macro of hand comparisons
>Tudor
Tudor takes some rolex-esque deisgns from it's back catalogue, puts snowflake hands on them and actually makes them fresh and interesting. I'd put Tudor and Omega in a similar category for VFM but GS pleases my autism far more.

>> No.15767692

>>15767490
Thick gimmick. Next

>> No.15767710
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>>15766265
Thank you OP. This made me come up with the perfec nickname for my aq 230.
The poorverso.

>> No.15767714

>>15767692
It's only 11.5mm, not that thick. :^)

>> No.15767718

>>15767681
I don't think we have any real disagreements regarding the subject.
By meme I meant some weeaboo watch nerds pushing myths about GS to create an impression that it's levels above Swiss trash like Rolex and Omega. There are plenty of such people in the watch community.
Otherwise it is a decent watch if you really know what you want, though personally I prefer the Swiss (and Germans).

>> No.15767728

>>15767656
>>15767681
>actually Sallaz
That's just the reverse weeb shit getting to you. Japan man can call his technique after the japanese pronounciation of the machine it was first done on, and thenceforth it'll be zaratsu regardless of its etymology; regardless of how the resident weebs at seiyajapan dot com might feel about it in their knees.

>> No.15767735

>>15767030
It says 'swiss' at the bottom left and it looks like the strap has a G on it so maybe a quartz Breitling?

>> No.15767737

>>15767001
https://a.aliexpress.com/_msntGpF

>> No.15767739

>>15767608
Who cares, fuck any chrono with that useless 24hour subdial

>> No.15767744

>>15767737
Thanks anon but those ship with the rolex logo on them. I would feel kind of silly wearing that.

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15767748

>>15767490
>tsss tsss tsss tsss tsss
>*silence*
>shhhhhhhh
>THUMP THUMP THUMP
>shhhhh
>THUMP THUMP
>shhhh
>THUMP
>*silence*
>tssssssss

That's 130/90 Mr. Anon, elevated by newer guidelines but nothing too worrisome. As first step i'd suggest modifying lifestyle factors like including more aerobic exercise in your daily routine, eating less fatty foods and avoiding salt. If that doesn't bring results, we'll consider including some blood pressure medication. All well Mr. Anon and have a nice day!

>> No.15767783

>>15767748
That's funny, usually I hear them compared to bathroom scales, never heard blood pressure cuff before.

>> No.15767810
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15767810

>>15767490
Meistersinger are extremely ovepriced for what they are. A simple off-the-shelf movement in a boring and simple case. There is zero reason to get one of the yuge ones, for they have a very slim bezel, or a new one, for that matter, their prices drop quick. The face is all dial, so 40mm is heaps a plenty. As far as colours, I would go with sunburst blue on a polished SS case, saw one in the flesh and I got a hardon. The white one looks like a Luch that has been marked up to €1800.

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>>15767810
My reference point, look at that shit, goddamn hnnnngh. Beware that some of their models have printed dials, which makes them feel even cheaper. I think the Circularis is the optimal variant if you arent looking for moonphases, calendars, etc.

>> No.15767829

>>15767810
>simple off-the-shelf movement
I feel like people underestimate the higher-tier Sellita movements. The tier of the Sellita SW 210 that they use (tier 3 of 4) are like $200 for the movement alone. That's before they get them re-finished and engraved/gilded with their logo. People always seem to expect every watch with an ETA or Sellita movement to just be insanely cheap, but they spend more on the movement alone than people think the watch should cost altogether.

They're definitely more expensive than I'd prefer to spend on what's essentially a novelty watch, but I also really appreciate it when there's some overlap between novelty and luxury. I really enjoy watches with unique ways of telling the time, but most of them are just super poorly-finished pieces of junk.

Also I think I'd specifically be looking at the No. 1 40mm. I do like the smaller bezels on the Neo versions, but I don't love their date window implementation.

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>>15766412

2 bad it's fake. The chinks made the duoface a few months ago but it's 12mm thick

>> No.15767834

>>15767455
>>acrylic >sapphire when it comes to durability
>acrylic gets scratches that can be easily polished away
>sapphire shatters like glass when you drop it wrong
A tool watch will have prolonged constant exposure to smaller scrapes, and you'd polish through the other side in a few months if you wanted to keep it legible. Unless it comes with 20 free spares, acrylic is a really bad idea for a tool watch. And both will go to shit if you punch a wall with them.

>> No.15767844

>>15767834
2 of the most iconic toolwatches ever in history comes in acrylic (omega speedmaster and vostok amphibia)

>A tool watch will have prolonged constant exposure to smaller scrapes, and you'd polish through the other side in a few months if you wanted to keep it legible.
and this is not true unless your idea of a hobby is rolling down a hill sitting on your facedown watch

>> No.15767851

>>15767830
? Mine is most definitely not fake

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15767856

>>15766368
>black patriot
>black air stryk
>silver cobra
>grey silencer
these names holy shit
It's like Razer but for tacticool tryhards.
also
>higher end model is 10k
>automatic ETA
>day/date
>200m WR
>500 pieces "only"
The fact that this is in the same price range as some Breitlings is wonderful.
Literally less WR than a Vostok or a G-Shock

>> No.15767857

>>15767844
I really don't care dude, I said the truth and you can stick it up the asshole.

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15767866

>>15767857
>i-i dont care dude
>proceeds with butthurt ad hominem
>wrongful use of the word "true" because you are butthurt

they specifically chose to equip the speedmaster with hessalite (acrylic) due to acrylic's unparalleled impact resistance
if sapphire crystal breaks its going to send shards of sharp glass floating everywhere in space
sapphire has very high scratch resistance but for actual impact its dogshit. It cannot flex at all. People have cracked their watches just having it drop off the kitchen counter.

Nice """tool watch"""" LMAO

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>>15767748
noice

>> No.15767888
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15767888

>>15766955
You know it.

>> No.15767892
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15767892

>Despite the robust build quality of Rolex watches, they still have the limitations of the materials from which they are constructed. Although metal is remarkably strong and durable, even Rolex’s proprietary alloys will wear down after repeated and prolonged contact with another surface.
>The owner of this watch wore it on the same wrist as a large bracelet, which resulted in a significant amount of wear on the bottom edge of the watch from it rubbing against another metal surface for many years. Although the internal components of the watch were in decent condition, the extensive wear to the case and case-back prohibit the watch from ever being able to be sealed properly again.

anal bead lovers btfo

>> No.15767893

>>15767866
Yo retard literally no one gives a shit about what they did back when Elvis invented twerking, if they had quartz, they'd use quartz. Are you using your everyday tool watch in vacuum moron? Have you implanted it into your skull?

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15767896

>>15767870
>name
I cannot help but hear Tony Soprano saying Doc Cusamano.

>> No.15767897

>>15767893
>doesnt care
>replies with even more butthurt screeching

why are you behaving like a woman?

>> No.15767904

>>15767866
>shattered glass
Big deal? Do some people expect their watch to be indestructible if they pay a few grand for it? Get a Victorinox Inox quartz if you really want a bulletproof beater, or a digi casio.

>>15767892
Again, what is the point of this? Everything has a life expectancy. It is only logical that over time a harder material will wear down a softer one, no? Get a tegimented case if your wrist looks like that of Johnny Depp.

>> No.15767906

>>15767892
What's your point? Rub metal against metal for years and you get wear. No shit.

>> No.15767907
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15767907

>>15767471
It's a W450 from the early 80s, they're known as Marlins and were precursors to G-Shocks. They're pretty pricey nowadays since they're highly collectable. Mine isn't a great example, it's pretty beat up and two of the segments on one of the seconds digits don't work, despite me thoroughly cleaning the module.

>> No.15767909

Do Cartier watches hold or increase their value reasonably well? If I can scrape the funds together I might get one if so.

>> No.15767914

>>15767435
This is right on the borderline of being too big for you, if you really like it then you can just about pull it off but personally I'd go 42mm

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15767922

>>15767897
Better a woman than a gay.
>>15767904
But where does the metal go???

>> No.15767923
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>>15767904
>cant follow the thread
poster here >>15767178 is talking about the "ultimate" tool watch but recommended sapphire when its not a good candidate in a "ultimate tool watch" scenario

>...sapphire is not the wonder material that many people think it is. It actually breaks easier than glass.
>sapphire is more likely than glass to break when you drop it. This is the biggest problem of them all, obviously. While sapphire is good at preventing scratches, it's not good at preventing cracks from forming. Those cracks eventually lead to the screen shattering. Glass has chemicals added to it that prevent cracks from growing into a big problem.
https://www.businessinsider.com/heres-why-apple-didnt-use-unbreakable-sapphire-glass-for-the-iphone-6-2014-9

>one of the main criteria for NASA when selecting the watch that would go to space was that the crystal needed to be shatter-proof. Omega delivered the Speedmaster, equipped with an acrylic crystal.
>One of my most worn watches is, likewise, a Submariner with an acrylic crystal. It was built to be a tool, and I have used it as such. You see, you can drop a watch with an acrylic crystal on the ground, and it won't shatter. There is real peace of mind to be had from that.
>Some things that I think about when buying a new watch are legibility and how reflective a particular watch's crystal is. Many brands will apply an anti-reflective coating to a watch to aid in protection against direct sunlight. With acrylic, such application is not needed. Inherent to its composition is a high clarity and resistance to UV rays. The acrylic crystal is like looking into the clearest waters, with the dial beneath ready to greet you.
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-acrylic-crystal

>> No.15767926

>>15767922
>Better a woman
imagine typing that
cut your balls off already
you cant even post a proper photo lmao

>> No.15767934
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>>15767656
>Regular GS models do NOT have hand finishing cases
Yes they do, the polishing machines are basically just disc sanders. The work is still done by hand and eye

>> No.15767938

>>15767923
Ah, well, at any rate, good luck finding a modern "tool" watch with an acrylic. Everybody and their mother uses sapphire. Maybe a marathon field watch has plastic?

>> No.15767943

>>15767923
>https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-acrylic-crystal
>unironically posting copeaganda from Shillinkee

>> No.15767944
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15767944

>a toast my friends, to horology!

>> No.15767968

>>15767938
watch casuals clamouring for sapphire without thinking need to be neutered (because polishing a crystal is too hard, apparently)
the default speedmaster when you go to omega's website is still offered in hesalite aka acrylic
https://www.omegawatches.com/watches/speedmaster/moonwatch-professional/product
and vostoks and the flexing domed acrylic glass enables the watch to go all the way to 800m+ (even though its only stated as rated to 200m)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-YKyDkpXbc
in fact, the caseback started to cave in 1st, before the crystal did. The acrylic crystal literally beat stainless steel in pressure resistance.
"Crush test of a vostok amphibia 110 case"
"Case back starts to deform around 70 bar and complete failure happens around 82 bar."

>>15767943
>attacking the messenger and not the message
imagine being this weak, that you can say nothing besides screeching

>> No.15767971

>>15767934
Even the seiko prospex 300m has some hand finishing.

>> No.15767982

>>15767744
I got this bracelet for my Sub homage build and it came with a glide lock clasp, it has no logo.
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMdOXrb

>> No.15767987

>>15767982
>https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMdOXrb
whats this fit on? looks half decent. like a poor mans ginault bracelet

>> No.15767994

>>15766997
>500 fucking dollars? For a MIYOTA shitter? Give me a fucking break
>Wait till you hear this shit, the rotor's fucking LOUD AS BALLS
>This bracelet is ASS, I've seen slap bands that are better than this

>> No.15767995

Is the Forester spammer gone for good?

>> No.15768011
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>>15767987
It fits Sub cases, here it is on my Sub homage (I need to put the hands on it now they've arrived).

>> No.15768015
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15768015

Yo bros. What is even horology?
Buing watches?

>> No.15768022
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>>15767995
I hope not.

>> No.15768023

>>15768015
Coming up with answers, technologies and materials to questions quartz has answered four decades ago.

>> No.15768041

>>15767968
>the default speedmaster when you go to omega's website is still offered in hesalite aka acrylic
Literally no one cares about Amigo MOTMOMTOEOTTOYLANBO

>> No.15768048

>>15768015
It's an hobby that makes sense only if you can afford at least an entry-luxury watch. Poorfags should stick to quartz

>> No.15768059

oh look, the troll is back again.

>> No.15768061

>>15767892
You kinda deserve this if you're a bracelet wearing faggot.

>> No.15768071

>>15768041
other than the daytona, the speedmaster is the most recognizable chronograph of all time.
for most people, when they hear of the brand Omega, the speedmaster is the 1st watch that comes to mind.

>> No.15768080

>>15767923
>acrylic... Inherent to its composition is a high clarity and resistance to UV rays.
the exact opposite is true, why write this

>> No.15768088

>>15768080
??? do you even google
>Acrylic is sometimes called Plexiglass, but Plexiglass is just one of many brands of acrylic. This particular material has several benefits, including:
>Resists yellowing from the sun
>Better clarity than glass transmitting 92% of light
>Has an impact resistance that is 17x that of glass
>Acrylic is inherently UV resistant with as little as 3% degradation outdoors over a 10-year period.
https://www.piedmontplastics.com/blog/acrylic-vs-polycarbonate-understanding-the-differences
>Acrylic displays weather resistance which is unmatched by other general purpose plastics. It will withstand exposure to high levels of UV light, salt water spray, extreme cold and dramatic temperature changes without shattering, fogging or losing its lustre.
>In fact, clear acrylic has been known to last up to 30 years in use outdoors without turning yellow, crumbling or losing its strength.
https://www.cutplasticsheeting.co.uk/blog/clear-acrylic-2/faq-how-weather-resistant-is-clear-acrylic/

>> No.15768089
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15768089

>> No.15768098

>>15768089
Nice watch

>> No.15768100

>>15767310
External finishing looks pretty soft, the date isn't even centered in the date window, and it's 1700 Euro. There must be better value options out there for a 38-ish mm Valjoux 7750 based chronograph.

>> No.15768109
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>>15768048
Is "the hobby" itself just buying watches?

>> No.15768112

davidsw

>> No.15768121

>>15766478
fuck that's a nice dial

>> No.15768129

day 8 of FUCK UPS CUSTOMS

>> No.15768131

>>15766478
Someone managed to magnetize his sneedmaster by putting it in a pocket next to his phone speaker

With shit like that magnetic resistance is more relevant to the average normalfag than 60 years ago

>> No.15768139

>>15768109
No, learning about historical pieces, technological advancements and companies in general is a part of it.
Military issue watches are deep rabbit hole, example: https://www.fratellowatches.com/raf-pilot-omega-ck2292-30t2/

>> No.15768141

>>15768109
It's also about trying to figure out which ones to buy and maybe regulating or modding them. Fixing a watch would make it actually a hobby, but few do that.

>> No.15768149

>>15768139
>Military issue watches are deep rabbit hole
This is what /k/ommandos really believe when military history is ridiculously well documented.
Try figuring out civilian agency issues. THAT is where the challenge is. The official documents stay in a closed circuit and no one cares anywhere near as much about the postal services of a given country than about its military.

>> No.15768166
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15768166

Kino

>> No.15768191

>>15767656
>Zaratsu is actually the Japanese pronunciation of the German word Sallaz, the name of the German manufacturer which appeared on polishing machines acquired by Seiko in the 1950s. Regular GS models do NOT have hand finishing cases

Compared to polishing using a buffing wheel or even a felted lapidary, using Sallaz polishing machines is significantly more labour and skill intensive. On a Sallaz machine, even a small variation in angle or pressure will be immediately visible on the finished product. Also, each polished facet has to be done separately, and Grand Seiko cases have many more individual polished facets than most other brands.

There is a reason other watchmakers don't try to do the same thing. It's a huge pain in the ass compared to even the kind of lapidary polishers that haute brands use.

>springdrive
Yeah, it was so easy it only took a couple of decades to work out the technical challenges required to be able to industrialize is, with dozens of patents along the way.

>9S85 is just a 9S65 with increased beat rate and therefore reduced power reserve. It does not provide a better accuracy and is actually a less robust movement because of the increased wear by higher friction

This is incorrect. The 9S8x/9S6x was designed from the ground up to be a hi beat movement. One of the major motivations of incorporating MEMS manufacturing into the escapement was to reduce the amount of energy required to drive the escapement to offset the increased power requirements and accompanying wear and tear of a higher beat rate.

Also, as I'm sure you well know, up to a point faster beat rates reduce both positional variance and reduce the effect of small shocks on rate stability. The idea that magically the 9s85 is immune to the typical benefits of its higher beat rate is silly.

>> No.15768204

>>15767656
>>15768191
>9S65 is a decent yet somewhat ordinary movement
Yes, we all know how ordinary it is to use photolithography to make escapement parts, to use the same kind of gear tooth polishing equipment that haute watchmakers use on every tooth of every gear in the whole movement, not to mention Grand Seiko's proprietary complex inner terminal curve geometry and being the last major watchmaker to extensively adjust regulated balance escapements to beyond COSC standards.

Obviously, being a regulated balance it is not going to have the positional variance advantages of a free sprung balance, but it is the last series produced regulated balance having so much old fashioned adjustment labour thrown at it. I also think the hi beat in particular has advantages in terms of worn vs. resting rate stability that offset a lot of the disadvantage in positional variance.

>Their newest 9SA5 movements is an amalgamation of existing technologies developed by Swiss competitors including a variation of co-axial itslef, which seems to be costing a fortune
It is not a variation of the co-axial escapement at all, actually, and it represents the first attempt by anyone to industrialize production of a direct impulse escapement, which means GS must believe they've solved the main technical challenges of implementing it.

>GS bracelets provide mediocre comfort and quality,
I really don't understand this complaint, besides the absence of glide-lock. Yes, I know about the end-link to lug fitment, but that applies to most brands other than Rolex/Tudor.

>> No.15768231

is this guy throwing an autistic tantrum the same one who thinks designing a brand new watch movement is trivially easy and that anyone could do it in their sleep?

>> No.15768254

>>15767656
>>15767681
>Zaratsu
>not nearly as big a deal as it's made out to be.

t. never ever in your life handled a watch finished with a Sallaz-type spinning disc machine (GS, Royal Oak, ...)

>>15767656
>>springdrive
>A trivial technology as old as quartz itself.
Only Piaget ever managed to replicate Spring Drive tech, and they only did it in a single prototype. Apparently they can't get it to work in production.

>What they do have is superb dials finishing that matches higher level Swiss brands (Breguet, VC, PP).
The finishing of GS dial furniture and hands FAR exceeds the vast majority of Breguet, VC, PP, ... offerings.

Same with case finishing.
Only the Royal Oak (and its derivatives like VC Overseas, PP Nautilus, ...) can match GS case finishing because they're also finished with Sallaz-type spinning disc machines.

>> No.15768258

>>15768166
It's weird how unfilled this niche is. Precious metal but with an iconic sporty design and unmatched bracelet

>> No.15768262

>>15768109
And bragging about how much you have in watches on forums, yeah.

>> No.15768266

>>15768258
Used car salesmen just get a fake one.

>> No.15768277

>>15768166
>$60k
God I hate those faggots in charge of Rolex

>> No.15768282

Platinum is just a meme right? Can you even tell a difference from steel by looking at it? I doubt I have ever seen a platinum watch in person.

>> No.15768286

>>15768277
It's the best day date you can buy with a solid platinum case and bracelet. That thing must look and feel like you are wearing $60k on your wrist. Unless you know about the ice blue dial to most plebs it would look like any other steel rolex.

>> No.15768288
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>>15768282
Apparently it has a different sheen, more on the yellowish/greenish side than steel, which is colder

>> No.15768297

>>15768288
>only niggers wear gold watches, the pic

>> No.15768303
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15768303

>>15768282
It's very hard to tell at a distance especially with modern steel alloys that are made to look more shiny than regular steel. Up close there is a difference in sheen with the way it catches the light, more so with platinum - it shines, but you need to know what to look for. However if you hold a platinum watch in your hand it's very very obvious due to their weight.

>> No.15768310

>>15768282
You can mostly tell by the weight; it's a lot heavier than gold even.
If you hold them side by side you can tell the difference in hue between it and steel, but it's not obvious at all.
Platinum is extremely soft though, more so than gold even.

>> No.15768318

>>15768310
> Platinum is extremely soft though, more so than gold even.
Completely wrong. Pure platinum is harder than yellow gold and even white gold and when it's used in watches and jewellery it's an alloy, still 95% pure mind you, that makes it harder still. That's partly one of the reasons it's more expensive because it's more difficult to work.

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>>15767995
>>15768022
I miss him. I'd rather see the 10th forester post than seeing thes cucks argue about pointless shit, they have no clue about.
>>15768080
>>15768088
>>15767923
>>15767922
>>15767904
>>15767866
SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH YOU FUCKING GLASS DEBATE. I'LL SLIT YOUR THROATS WITH A BROKEN WATCH.
>>15767656
>TL:DR

WRITE AN EVEN BIGGER WALL OF TEXT NEXT TIME YOU FUCKING NIGGER. YOU CAN'T AFFORD ANYTHING OF IT ANYWAY.

>> No.15768338

>>15768329
>cant read
>not interested in actual watch stuff
>rather have a shit overdone forced meme than read anything about watches in a watch thread

kill yourself

>> No.15768352

>>15768277
It has a platinum case and bracelet so yeah

you can even push it to like $105k with a diamond bezel and a pave dial

>> No.15768355

>>15768318
>Completely wrong
Angry autist detected.

Anyway, I looked at about a hundred sites on the matter and they nearly all say platinum is softer than 18ct gold (common case gold alloy).
But then all the sites that actually give figures (mohs, vickers) show that platinum is harder than 18ct gold.

In short: people are retarded.

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>>15768338
It is fucking USELESS! It's half truth and no real new knowledge to me. It's just some cucks autists arguing back and forth while they never saw a watch from the inside. Same would be reading thier tips about women.

I have seen all of this crap on /g/ay already. Always uninformed stuff and half truths and then they try to win a pointless argument. With no new facts.
And somwhere here hides the coaxial nigger too. Seen the coaxial debate like 5 years ago. Are you fucks just retarded or is it pasta to furthere these threads?

>> No.15768378

>>15768368
Bold statement, calling others cucks, autists and niggers while posting a 3 meg stationary gif, my man.

>> No.15768388

>>15768378
Qick conversion with paint to get it under 4MB. Post a watch you wrenched on, sissy. And don't even run your whore mouth about OG paint, nigga!

>> No.15768393

>>15768071
>other than the daytona, the speedmaster is the most recognizable chronograph of all time.
Which has zero to do with its capabilities as a tool watch mongoloid.

>> No.15768395

>>15768388
I aint your nigga, homie.

>> No.15768397

>>15768352
Gold is significantly more expensive than Platinum and has been for the last ~6 years. Platinum is harder to work with but Rolex is obviously taking the piss with their pricing here.

>> No.15768405

>>15768368
You're right, instead of actually discussing watches in any sort of detail, we should just shitpost the meme watch of the week and call each other poor all thread.

If you have something to actually contribute to talking about watches, feel free to do so instead of wasting posts whining that other people are actually trying to have a discussion about watches rather than shitposting mindlessly.

>> No.15768410
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15768410

Is it a large loss to NOT have a seconds hand? Dress watches omit them, and other than to quickly be able to tell if a watch is actually running, is there a point? Just to measure short intervals on the fly?

>> No.15768411

>>15767406
I wouldn't

>> No.15768414

>>15767739
Usually I agree but solar, 60min and sweep chrono seconds make up for it.
It's nice to have those fat assed lugs of the sumo without the shitty entry-level mechanical movement.

>> No.15768420

>>15768405
don't even bother, it's probably the guy who's been shitposting in /wt/ for years
I remember reading somewhere that the vast majority of shitposting on 4chan is done by 1 faggot pretending to be different people, who hangs out in general threads making almost all of the stupid and useless posts because they are deeply emotionally invested in something but they have nothing to contribute so they just shit it up to feel some validation, since they're losers with no life
it sounded schizo as fuck but if you think about it it makes so much sense. if you see a retarded post don't give it attention, it's just the shitposter trying to get attention on himself and off something people might actually enjoy

>> No.15768422

>>15768410
It adds a bit of life and movement to the dial. Honestly small seconds are my favourite complication

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>>15767435
Still acceptable, but I feel you need to have a certain build to be able to carry a fullsize Luminor well. Gigawrist are one thing, but thicc forearms and overall masculinity help to carry it well.

>> No.15768433

>>15768410
Being able to tell if the watch is running at a glance and being able to actually see the most immediate measurement of the passage of time are pretty big deals.

>> No.15768434

>>15768397
It's just slightly harder to work with and stands in no justification to what cucklex asks. And what the other guy wrote is also true. 18ct gold is as hard as platinum. It should be no surprise that the amount of craftsmanship stands in no relation to the prices of luxury goods.
>>15768405
Yeah, lets instead argue over two threads about fucking glass instead. Of course the forester posting was a joke. But the shitposters are less intrusive than some faggots with low egos. At least the shitposters are somewhat original and you even see how it develops.
>>15768420
I couldn't even do that when i would be paid. The BS that i see sometimes is from legit crazy people. No way it's one guy. Generals usually have dedicated trolls. I am not one of them.

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>>15768434
Forgot pic

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15768437

Have a haute fucking Christmas /wt/

>> No.15768453

The guy who keeps posting about his shitty quartz "kinographs" is the one behind many of these posts.

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>>15768453
Absolutely untrue, I haven't posted in days.

>> No.15768459

>>15768457

kys faggot

>> No.15768463

>>15768397
I don't think it's only Rolex that does this. Platinum watches from PP/AP/VC are all more expensive than their gold counterparts

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>>15768434
>>15768436
Also, while posting this i already got some wonky shit with the capcha and BS about posting duplicates, that's why it didn't post my pic but the text. When i tried to post only the pic
>you have to wait 14 seconds before replying with a picture

Strange occurence. Had similar fuckery after shitting massively in some /v/ threads. Posted about shills posing as haters and counter shills to create board tribalism or at least butthurt to generate more capcha money.
>got banned the next day for 26 days for something i posted liek 4 months before

Fucking lol. This gay board has now shadowbans and butthurt jannies. My IP is not the problem, btw. Ban was lifted 2 days later by some based janny automatically. I didn't even appeal it. I suspect i made faggot here butthurt too. So maybe, see you in a month, faggots.

>> No.15768469
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>>15768436

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>>15768466
HOL UP! Why are they both not a (you)? It's both me. Awww shieet, here we go again.

>> No.15768475

>>15768469
Heartly keked, the numbers god sends blessing upon ya. Sadly the humorless cucks here won't even check. Many such stories.

>> No.15768484
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15768484

I like both

>> No.15768486

>>15768437
mirin that clock

>> No.15768500

>>15768484
The SNA411 is busyiness perfected

>> No.15768505

>>15768500
I agree, the casio has a better chronograph overall though

>> No.15768510
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15768510

Can't live without my Kinographs

>> No.15768511
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15768511

this is an audemars, right?

>> No.15768514

>>15768511
That depends on what her feet look like

>> No.15768517

>>15768109
for some people it is. but also understanding the technology/engineering and craftsmanship ideally takes some enthusiasm and study, which goes into getting the spec you want and determining what is the best value.
in combination with that, most watch people have very individual senses of taste and aesthetics. I would say the hobby aspect is combining the history and technical knowledge with pieces that reflect the individual's personality. collecting baseball cards and stamps is considered a hobby, which is "just buying things" but they might argue understanding the history of why it's valuable makes it a hobby. viewed against them, I'd argue a watch hobby is somewhat more involved.
but a lot of people just want to burn cash checking boxes getting the "best" or most trendy dress, diver, chrono, flieger, etc as a "hobby." and richfags just buying flexpieces is a lot of sales, although I wouldn't call those people hobbyists.

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I am searching ID of a watch seen in the movie Sputnik. It seems to have 2 buttons on each side.
Movie takes place in USSR 83, if that helps to pinpoint it

>> No.15768525

>>15768397
Platinum for most brands is almost always reserved for their most high end and rarest pieces. For every one platinum day date Rolex make they likely produce a hundred in gold and a thousand in steel. That exclusively is what you are paying for, the price isn't simply down to materials.

>> No.15768527

>>15768520
possibly some Elektronika variant

>> No.15768528

>>15768520
elektronika

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>>15768514
here you go anon
thankfully thread is over bump limit so i dont feel too bad for posting this

>> No.15768533

>>15768511
Yes. It looks like a yellow gold 15202 with the blue dial though it may be a smaller 36mm women's version.

>> No.15768535

New
>>15768534
>>15768534
>>15768534

>> No.15768538

>>15768529
>cheese board
The what now?

>> No.15768539
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>>15768538
The thing on which you place your cheese and appetizers

>> No.15768594
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15768594

>>15766265
My old man drives through my town almost weekly. Some time ago he dropped by with this. I'm a military man so this is something I actually need, I go through those €20 W-800s in months.
This looks much better with my thick wrist plus my gf no longer has a bigger watch than me.

>> No.15768650

>>15768594
Okay

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15768698

>>15768520
Elektronika 5

>> No.15769171

>>15768457
that's a nice watch