/fa/ - Fashion

>>15747441
I don't get this ad.
If I pay a shitload of money for a watch the last thing I want to hear is I don't own it

first for most based horology content creator. get in here bros

https://www.twitch.tv/mr_horologist

>>15747395
The navy baltic is guilt homie

>pay $20,000 for a Calatrava
>machine finish that gets mogged by a fucking Seiko
Here’s your $40,000 MSRP 5712 bro

>>15747447
look at that fucking nose

Explore my anus anons

>>15747452
Ya fuck Patek. Get a Lange or Journe and call it a day

Oh I am laughing

JAG edition.

>>15747456
god i wish i could bro. im so fucking horny for anons you have no idea. i would literally fuck the shit out of your asshole and then eat it

>>15747457
I think this would be the perfect watch if they could have just made it a little bit smaller. Christ it looks huge.

>>15747452
This is a 5712.

>>15747467
It's 42mm which is large but not *that* large, must be a wristlet. To be fair given the movement and complication in that watch it must be hard to make it smaller.

>>15747461
Post your collection and the loupe you wear everywhere to inspect your watches at x20 magnification.

>>15747473
The new one is 44mm diameter and 12mm thick.

>>15747477
Oh yeah, that's the date. Wider but thinner than the other Zeitwerks.

>>15747476
>finishing doesn’t matter!
So why are you paying $30,000 again? The butthurt caused by a multiple year old image is hilarious.

>>15747452
>machine finish that gets mogged by a fucking Seiko

Can you post some comparison pics?

Looking for a nice Diver I can rock as a versatile everyday beater watch. Are there any divers out there that won't make me look like a poorfag besides a Rolex Sub?

Bonus points if it has an in-house movement.

>>15747486
>>15747461
Top is GS
>f-finishing doesn’t matter!
Top zozzle

>>15747482
I just find it hilarious the amount of autism over something not visible to the naked eye and how the same one or two examples posted over and over are comically extrapolated as if every watch a brand produces is the same. I'll probably never buy a Patek but it won't be because of some laughable macro shots.

>>15747490
>it’s only one watch! It’s a fluke! No fair!! I don’t care anyway!!!
kek

>>15747493
> One watch
Find the faults in this pic then >>15747469. That machine finishing and rough polishing is so obvious right?

>>15747488
thanks anon

anyone else wear other accessories with your watch?

> Your budget
$1000-2000
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
Dress
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
Hand-wound
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
None, 2-hand or sub seconds dial
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
Leather
> Wrist size or desired watch size
36-40mm

>>15747502
Celadon imperial maybe?

>>15747502
Maybe a stowa marine 36 small seconds? Not a true dress watch but dressy side of casual

>>15747501
mixing steel and gold...

>Gaudy ruby speckled gold ring

Nice try tony soprano

I wish I could find more watches with little bits of gold on it.

>>15747450
Its more of a dull brass than gold compared to >>15747535

>>15747535
Most breitling watches has some. The B on all breitling watches is made out of 18 karat

>>15747501
I usually wear this.

>>15747504
I don't think I can quite get down with their dial designs, unfortunately.

>>15747508
Not bad! I particularly like their bronze recolor. I shall add it to the potential buy list.

>>15747511
titanium and gold actually, and there's nothing gaudy about it. also the inlay is ruthenium which matches pretty well

>>15747447
Magnitude better than those shitubers

>>15747545
Cheers bud. I've been lusting after one for awhile now

>>15747501
Only tribal bracelet is acceptable

>>15747543
I just want gold color I can't afford more gold jewelry at this time.

Can you display the time on the digital display on this model?

>>15747501
Why are you wearing a left handed watch on your right hand

>>15747591
I’m retarded I meant it the other way around

>>15747407
I'm really happy I waited on buying a metal case. Now I really want to get a second casioak to recase.
>>15747431
That one not so bad. The negative display on my res casioak is death. Even in daytime. But one press of the light and its fine

>>15747577
You can always display the time on the digital displays.

>>15747553
>noo is titanium not steel
Big fucking difference. Silver and gold accessories don't match. You accesories your watch like shit. If it was gaudy 2 tone sure but 2 tones are ass.

>>15747502
Get a sugess memebillon

>>15747610
I'm not sure about that model. I've never seen it done even in reviews.

>>15747621
Unfortunately those cheap Walmart skeletonized watches have made me see tourbillons as tacky and cheap, but I'll have a peek at their other watches.

>>15747621
>>15747622
Oh, they're all hardcore clones, not for me unfortunately. I'd rather wear a Swatch as a dress watch than wear a clone.

>>15747615
cope retard

>>15747591
because who gives a shit. it looks natural on either wrist, and I prefer not to have the crown digging into my wrist

>>15747625
I'm definitely coping this moonphase after christmas money presents come in.

>>15747635
>cope retard
The words of an injured ego. You're projecting your cope onto me. I'm not shitting on having a nice watch or wearing gold, I like those things, but your silver colored watch and your gold ring look like shit together.

>>15747635
>it looks natural on either wrist
Anyone who knows anything about watch will know you're doing it wrong.
>I prefer not to have the crown digging into my wrist
Then don't wear it like a retard on your wrist bone.

>>15747641
>reee you have to wear your watch the right way!!!
spare me. divers wear LHD watches on either wrist depending on where their other gear is worn

>>15747638
yeah bro the words of some jackoff on the internet really cut me to the bone lmaooo

>>15747648
>yeah bro the words of some jackoff on the internet really cut me to the bone lmaooo
Then why are your jimmies so rustled? Why post cope retard? Why are you so fragile? You're not a diver btw you're just a cheapass who bought an LHD watch on sale and is now coping hard because he's being called out for it. There's no need to reply honestly, you'll just embarrass yourself some more.

>>15747660
on sale for full retail you full retard. I don't buy secondhand watches

faggots like you are why nobody posts on here anymore. you see something you don't like, throw a fit over it, and then sperg harder when the other person kicks back. it's pathetic. post something you actually own or piss off

>>15747670
>>15747660
Get a room you two

>>15747670
I just agreed with the other anon that gold and silver don't match. You're the one having a fit. I honestly don't even give a shit about your LHD but you're too thin skinned for some bants. Why don't you go to reddit, I'm sure they'll tell you how cool and unique you're being by wearing a lefty watch like a righty and that the ring and watch together are pure class. Fucking faggot.

Reposting from last thread
The chinks now have a V3 of the casioak metal bezel and bracelet.
This one has the bracelet directly attached to the bezel.

>>15747501
Your fashion sense is extremely tasteless.

>>15747675
Definitely coping one now. Still not sure which casiaok is best to get though. Black dial white indices is boring. I want either the grid purple dial or a blue dial one.

So who's the chick who does the watch pictures with her tits out?

>>15747682
>chick
Call her what she is anon, a whore.

>>15747674
why don't you go back to plebbit since you seem to know its tastes so well

I asked a question. I gave an example for reference. Instead of responding to the question like a civilized person you decided to trash the example. we get it, you don't have anything to post. try not posting at all, it would really help the quality of this board

>>15747676
don't recall asking for your opinion but thanks anyway

>>15747675
who wants a 1 for 1 AP knockoff case

>>15747675
Here is one on a watch.
Hilarious that they beat casio too this. It's pretty likely that casio will release an all metal casioak next year that looks pretty similar.

>>15747687
>don't recall asking for your opinion but thanks anyway
Holy shit you're such a twat. Grow a thicker skin you fucking gay loser.
>muh civilized answer
Go suck off a duck.

>>15747693
i will never understand this meme. you're wearing a complete knockoff of something popular but anyone who likes watches will be able to tell at a glance that it's a knockoff. what's the fucking point

>>15747696
again, cope retard

>noooo you can't respond with hostility to my shitposting that contributes nothing of substance

left handed again just to make you rage

>>15747697
>watch nerds: the seiko 5 series is great! you can customize it any which way you like, there's a whole cottage industry of partsmakers and even amateur watchmakers making their on 7s26 based watches!
>also watch nerds: n-no you can't buy a metal case for your casio shitter, that's not allowed

>>15747697
Personally I would do it for laughs. I would honestly never own a royal oak, I don't see the appeal. I much rather get a lange or something at that price point. But making your g shock look like one is just kinda funny.

>>15747702
oh I got confused, is the case made by a third party? because I thought casio just went full retardo chink knockoff

>>15747699

>>15747697
I don't think anyone is buying these because they think they can fool people into believing they are wearing a RO.

>>15747707

>>15747706
It literally said in the post
>chink case
And in another post
>chinks beat casio to it
Learn to read numb nuts.

>>15747710
you're implying that casio would actually make something this tacky and obvious

>>15747686
So who's the whore?

>>15747715
How the fuck am I implying that you retard?

>>15747709

>>15747716
idk some bitch interested in whorology

Are there any forums about watches for normal people? This general has turned into niggers and capitalists showing off, so I'm looking for a better place.

>>15747648
Do you take it up the ass anon ? Because that's what the ring is telling me.

>>15747757
It's that one third world criminal moron obsessed with rings, just filter any post with a ring.

>>15747761
It's not. He doesn't take pictures like that and isn't a thin skinned faggot

>>15747768
Same shit, neither are people, so why do you even engage.

>>15747441
Check what just came in the mail. My only complaint is the lack of AR coating but otherwise I'm super happy with it. Strap was still stiff when I took the picture but it fits better now

>>15747754
You can just look at the pictures, anon, and perhaps mock the gaudy-ass $45,000 heile-hitlerique piece someone purchased unironically (or is pretending to have, doesn't really matter).

>>15747815
Nice bro

>>15747821
It's just stupid, I want normal people talking about normal watches, like where am I going to get someone's real opinion on Luminox or some shit like that, on both watchuseek and reddit normal watches are called "affordable" i.e. poorfag watches and are looked at with disdain because they are forced to share the same website with the 'my Rolly don't tik tok it just glide' retards.

>>15747815
I can dig it

>>15747838
Wtf are you talking about, WUS has tons of discussion going on about all sorts of watches.

>>15747757
No but your little sister definitely does

>>15747488
I want to lick that Dufour movement
It's sexual

AHAHAHAHAHA

https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/help-first-time-watch-buyer-with-some-advice-choices.5257346/

>DUDE IS FIFTY
>CAN'T AFFORD MORE THAN 1K
>THINKS IT WILL BE A FAMILY HEIRLOOM

AND THESE PEOPLE PROCREATE HOLY SHIT WHY

>>15747902
Desu I would never buy a used watch to start a family tradition

why is this thread so shit?

post some nice watches you roodypoos

>>15747902
my grandpa left me a no-name swiss shitter and I wouldnt trade it for anything else.

It's over bros, top dogs dont wear watches anymore

Tfw getting obsessed with the Reverso line

>>15747919
the duo or the classic?
having a classic engraved sounds kinda fun

>>15747923
I have a Tribute but I think it would be fun to have another 'verso
They're quite cheap on the secondary market for some reason

>>15747911
>>15747911
>my grandpa left me a no-name swiss shitter and I wouldnt trade it for anything else.
POST IT

>>15747476
You can absolutely tell when the edges of the hands (and bridges) are sawtoothed like that with the naked eye when the light hits them.

>>15747490
>something not visible to the naked eye
You can tell the difference between Lange's anglage and Patek's with the naked eye, anon.
It's why Lange caused such a storm at the end of the 90s, their finishing absolutely shit all over Patek.

>>15747501
LHD looks damn neat, love the cream indexes.

>>15747469
>>15747452
Soul

>>15746356
>44KS reissue
https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/new-and-upcoming-seiko-watches.2393034/page-941#post-52685511
As said previously, 38mm and fairly thin for a modern Seiko, looks like it'll use a hand winding 6L movement. 3000 piece limited edition, around $3500.
Too bad 44KS is so ugly compared to 45KS.

>>15747446

https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/11/luxury_branding_the_future_lea.html

Someone should buy the new Oris Holstein edition. Cute bear shaped movement that's actually very impressive, 1 of only 250 made, stamped bear caseback for the meme, all bronze. I can't do it since I like how bronze looks clean but am triggered by the patina.

>>15747947
That's a different argument. Just because Lange have better finishing on average across all their models doesn't mean Patek's is bad.

SOUL

>>15747990
The difference is Lange applies the same level of finish to all its models.
Patek scales the quality of its finish depending on price range.

> Your budget
~$150 or less.
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
Pilot, I guess. Something like pic related - I like the slide rule on the bezel a lot.
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
I don't know enough to be picky about this, and I think only quartz fits in my budget. Automatic seems cool, though.
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
Slide rule on the bezel
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
Leather or nylon
> Wrist size or desired watch size
I think my wrists are 7" around, or so.

>>15747996
> scales the quality of its finish depending on price range.
So what? That is how every single brand in the industry operates apart from Lange. Hell even top end Lange pieces are better finished than their cheaper models.

>>15748002
Brands like Vacheron tend to do the same for their "lower" price ranges, they have the Geneva Seal.
It's an absolute disgrace for a 20-30k watch from one of the most prestigious watch brands ever to have machine-finished anglage.

And btw, virtually all European high-end watches have hands that are finished like absolute dogshit.

>>15748007
> Vacheron
Not in their Fifty Six line they don't. In fact they got shit on because some of those models don't even have movements made by Vacheron.

>>15748020
He probably meant the entry level patrimony or traditionelles as they still have the seal

Did y'all lads see the Moireaux-Bergeron Deep Sea Paraglider yet? Shit's cash bro, first genuine HH innovation in decades

>>15747502
Nomos
Longines heritage
Vintage omega

>>15748020
>>15748028
The vast majority of Fifty-Six models have the Geneva hallmark too.
It's just the models around 15k that don't have it. Which is reasonable considering the price point.
All the Fifty-Six models above 20k have it.

Are there any youtube videos about disassembling random Chinese shitters and fashion watches too check their components?

>>15748020
>In fact they got shit on because some of those models don't even have movements made by Vacheron.
The Holy Trinity have a long history of outsourcing movements, especially during their heyday.

*designs and builds your movement*

>>15748111
Don't look at macros of their current movements.
Unless it's $50k+ watch, don't do it.

>>15747670
You're bragging about paying full MSRP? That's retarded man.

- AD Bro

>>15747699
Looks big for your wrists desu

>>15748116
I know what you're trying to say but compare a $6-8k JLC movement to other brands at that price level. Of course you're not going to top end finishing but
they are still far better than their competition.

>>15748116
I was referring to the fact that JLC built movements for AP, VC and PP

>>15748135
They still make movements for AP iirc. The 15202 still uses the same movement that was used in the original Royal Oaks.

>>15747476
thats not the point. if you pay 40 grand for a wristwatch, you expect nothing short of perfection

>>15748146
Why would you when there are watches worth millions? Know your place in the market and be happy with it or earn more.

Talk me out of buying this
I have 6in wrists

>>15748155
???

>>15748155
>why do you expect your car to run? don't you know spaceships exist?

>>15748146
You obviously don't know much about $40k watches. You have an incredible amount of choice and variety at that price level. Finishing, brand name or independant, resale value, design, investment, and so on. People buy a watch for many reasons and it is not only because of some polishing you can only see at high magnification.

>>15748178
if my watch costs as much as a new car, every part of it had better be flawless, even the shit I won't see or care about
why are you against getting value for your money?

>>15747497
Literally like if you went off and bought a mclaren p1 and got it home to find it had a civic engine it in and being told it doesnt matter because you cant go over the speed limit anyway

>>15748183
You seem to be obsessed on only one thing that makes a watch "worth it" in your opinion. Most buyers aren't especially those that can afford that much money on what is basically jewellery.

>>15748189
>only one thing
what are you, fucking retarded? for that much money, the watch has to meet the highest standards in every aspect, not just one.

>>15748178
A new Rolex Day date is around that price and it's basically jewellery.

>>15748000
Browse for a Casio Edifice, there are hundreds of models and probably one of them fits the bill

>>15748193
Exactly my point. Some people want a gold Rolex because it's a gold Rolex. Some people want a Patek because of their history and designs. Other people want a Grand Seiko because "muh finishing" and Nippon Banzai!

Saying only one choice is right and every person should want the same thing is beyond retarded.

>>15748200
...So why can't Patek have exemplary finishing like Grand Seiko? Shouldn't Patek, with its rich history and prestigious status, be able to offer finishing up to GS standards as a matter of course, especially since Pateks are five to ten times the price of Grand Seikos?

>>15748200
>"muh finishing"
Craftsmanship is what high-end watches are supposed to be about.
If it were any other way, everyone would be wearing quartzes.

It's funny how the complexity amd finishing of PP movements is supposed to be one of their selling points but when you point out they don't finish them as well as they could, the shills say you shouldn't expect it anyway unless your watch is 10 million dollars
This whole industry is built on cope

>>15748205
You do realised that GS polishing is just a different method and an aesthetic choice right? It is not inherently better. 'Basic' GS models are cheaper because yeah you are partly paying for the PP brand name but GS also don't finish their movements to the same standards, not even close. The watches they do make on-par with a Geneva Seal are at the same price point.

>>15748218
>a high standard of finishing is just a stylistic choice

>>15748218
>GS polishing is just a different method and an aesthetic choice

Turbocope.

>>15748216
I doubt people are paying 2-3x retail for a 5711 because of it's complexity and finishing

>>15748226
You are right. That is all instagram hype and lack of availability and doesn't affect just specific Patek watches. Once a commodity gets to that level everything else goes out the window. The Chronometre Bleu is a great watch but that doesn't make it worth over 3 times list price it is currently going for.

Is this watch too dressy? Can i wear it casually? Im 18, a lot of people told me its more suited for boomers.

>>15748232
>that
>dressy
nah

looks like a fine everyday watch

>>15748234
I dont consider it dressy either, i dont know why anything with roman numerals is considered suit tier to normies.

>>15748232
>people laugh at horned fatass archie for putting himself into the poorhouse collecting pateks that look like $100 seikos
>patek defenders say that it's worth it because pateks are in the highest echelons of hot whorology and the finishing of those watches are incredible
>now it turns out they aren't that well finished at all
>"w-w-well who cares, finishing is a meme"
are you fucking serious
get the fuck out of here you dickless copelords
luxury watch fanboys are fucking pathetic

>>15748232
that watch looks fine and if you feel it's too dressy you can put it on a brown leather strap and it immediately becomes casual

>>15748222
>>15748225
Post the Grand Seiko watches you own.

>>15748237
That doesn't have roman numerals, it has indices

>>15748237
Just realised i posted the one without numerals, anyways thanks guys.

>>15748237
Pic related is roman numerals while that Seiko has indices

>>15748249
>>15748245
Metal braces are dressier than leather ones? Or it depends on the watch in general?

>>15748252
Leather, especially alligator is definitely dressier compared to a bracelet assuming it isn't a gold one

>>15748252
Generally a metal bracelet is sporty. A leather strap can be both casual or formal. A bracelet is shiny though and sometimes that makes it seem more dressy to some people.

>>15748252
No metal bracelets are sporty (easier to clean if you sweat, more resistant, can go in the water). Leather (shiny alligator especially) is dressy

>>15748170
>>why do you expect your car to run? don't you know spaceships exist?
I mean don't expect Lambo for a Golf price, don't expect a Formula 1 for a Lambo price, and so on. What, you thought you can get the best for what's basically just a mid-level luxury price? You have no idea how the actual upper class lives and you're going to have your mind blown one day if you catch a glimpse of it.

Imagine spending all that money and ending up with a Nautilus instead of an actually cool PP piece

>>15748268
Blame instagram faggots

>>15748268
>common grey market price for a 5711 is $60-70k
That's the same price as this annual calendar chrono

>>15748271
>a steel Nautilus with a date is as expensive as a rose gold Vacheron Constantin perpetual calendar
OH NO NO NO they do be like that

>>15748279
To be fair its price isn't going down unless someone can 3d print it or something

>>15748268
>>15748278
>>15748279
People want what the see other people have. Marketing 101.

Less than 10 years ago you could buy a Nautilus at less than list price.

>>15748191
>for that much money, the watch has to meet the highest standards in every aspect
Why?

>Mfw enjoying the sneedverso I bought (new with papers and box) at 25% off retail price
When the normies will wake up I will be already far away

>>15748158

>>15748294
I remember seeing a VC Overseas having a 10% discount in a local AD (not the blue dial)

If only I have $18k for a watch

>>15748178
>spend a few hundred thousand on a new rolls royce
>pull open the plastic door handle
>there's gaps in the headliner
>the seat stitching is wonky
>the fake leather on the steering wheel is already peeling
>"it's fine, I bought it for the resale value. You can't see that stuff from a distance anyway"
You see how ridiculous this sounds?

>>15747916

She must amazing in bed.

>>15748304
I've driven my friends Ferarri F40 and that is now a million dollar car. The seats are hard plastic and uncomfortable as fuck, the interior is more basic than a $3k banged up piece of shit from the 1970's and it's a logistical nightmare to enter or leave the car. High price does not always mean perfection, in fact in my experience it rarely does.

>>15748327
So what you're saying is that all the luxury shit is actually terrible, overpriced crap?

>>15748331
No, it's just meant for a different class of people who don't care about retarded shit like a watch having to be perfect because they can buy a dozen, or a car having to be perfectly comfortable because they don't drive it every day 24/7 like some retarded uber slave or a soccer mom, they just drive it on track days, they have a driver to drive them the rest of their time on this earth.

>>15748331
No. It's worth what ever people are willing to pay for it and what you judge something on isn't some fixed set of rules.

>>15748340
So what you're saying is luxury shit is overpriced garbage being sold to retards who just want to spend money they have too much of? You aren't making a good point here, if at all. If I only have to drive once a week because I'm so fucking moneybags rich I expect the car I drive on the 1 day I drive per week to be incredible. I expect it to massage my ass and for me to be able to enter and exit it so smoothly it's as though I'm levitating in/out on the power of my own smugness.

>>15748108
Watch Repair Channel has done several. It's what you'd expect, they are cheap because they frequently have hairs, fingerprints, scratches, poor materials and botched adjustments.
He's a great guy to watch, somewhat autistic but really knows his shit.

>>15748331
He's basically saying it's made for people with more money than sense that don't actually care about the things they buy. Seems valid if you can wipe your ass with hundred dollar bills.

>>15748239
Great argument, tiger.

>>15748342
Yeah that guy who spent $17m on Paul Newman's own Daytona isn't buying it for its craftsmanship

You’re arguing with the angry, self-pitying third worlder.
It makes him extremely angry that there are people spending big sums on watches that aren’t perfect while he will spend the next two decades trying to decide on which watch will be the most perfect for his budget.
If you want to spend the rest of your weekend feeding him, be my guest, but I suggest finding something else to do.

>>15748327
The F40 was always supposed to be spartan like that, all about performance like a purebred racing car.

>>15748348
Has done Chinese movements, I mean. I pretty sure the shittiness of fashion watches is clear the moment you pop it open and see the tiny trash tier quartz movement held by all the plastic.

>>15748356
I'm not that fag, retard.
If you want to spend 10 billion dollars on a watch, then fine, but for the money it had better be absolutely flawless in every way. Yet here you are, saying that luxury watches costing $50k with unfinished edges and movements like you would see on watches that cost 10x less, are fine because "richfags don't care"
It's a trash argument, you are defending getting fucked in the ass because rich retards are clueless or have no standards or something and you should just buy a million dollar watch if you want good finishing
It's retarded

>>15748356
Just pointing out the obvious.

You want to see cope, you read shit like >>15748218
"GS polishing is just a different method and an aesthetic choice"

lmao

With Lange, you’re paying for exceptional finishing and quality. With Patek, you’re paying for exceptional design, very good finishing (exceptional on minute repeaters and above), better resale, and the name. Simple as

>>15748344
>I expect the car I drive on the 1 day I drive per week to be incredible.
It is incredible for that purpose, it's not supposed to be a Homer-mobile with everything dude.

>>15748364
>>I'm not that fag, retard.
Yes you are. Get a job.

>>15748366
>Lange
>not also exceptional design

>>15748359
Exactly. It's worth the price for it's performance and not the quality of its upholstery.

>>15748344
That's a grand tourer or a luxobarge, not a performance car. Although, these days a lot of hypercars are an uncomfortable mixture of both that just get shit on by things like 911s and corvettes.

>>15748377
This doesn't apply to things like Patek watches though.
With Patek, it's supposed to be mostly about the old-world craftsmanship.

>>15748384
So then shouldn't the finishing be better?

>>15748385
No, people who buy an inferior product because of the name and price don't have a love of horology. PP is one such brand that coasts on their name and the fact that people who are above watches don't care. You should be better than that, money or no money (probably no money though lol)

>>15748375
Fuck off. It's time Euros wake up and smell the coffee, and stop shitting out crap watch hands.

Lange, Patek, VC, ... all of their hands are fucking SARB-tier.

>>15748376
lmfao they didn't even paint the sky wtf

>>15748327
You're literally retarded

>>15748355
Not remotely the same thing

>>15748385
Absolutely.

>>15748376
Yeah Lange does have exceptional design they just don’t have the same breadth of models yet.

>>15748396
That PP is pure soul
I don't understand why so many just lust over the Nautilus which is Instagram-tier overpriced bait for retards

Bros, how come no one talks about Zenith other than the lab defy which became vaporware and the el primero?

>>15748376
Lange certainly have a few good designs but Patek have many many more. Look at AP. They are a single model company with the Royal Oak. The Nautilus is better and isn't even Pateks most iconic watch.

>>15748396
They really shat the bed with that fuck Odysseus abomination.

Lange literally has actual heritage in pilot's watches, but they cucked out.

>>15748401
I like the defy classic myself

It's pretty legible despite being openworked

>>15748404
The Nautilus is derivative and worse than the RO, although I agree PP has a better range overall

>>15748405
>Odysseus
I see tons of people hate the bracelet before deciding it's not that horrible after trying it in person

>>15748400
I agree, it is probably my favorite Patek watch of all time. It’s just perfect
>$40k
Fuck.
>>15748401
Unironically too expensive. An El Primero is a cool watch but it’s firmly in Rolex/JLC pricing territory. It takes a special kind of autism to buy a Zenith over one of those brands.

I like the Defy as well but that’s a lot of money to pay for a weird novelty to me.

>>15748405
I might be the only guy in the world who actually likes the Odysseus, funky bracelet and all. Looks hilariously shit on leather though.

>>15748412
Of course it's not going to be terrible, it's just a bracelet that's too wide.
But the entire design is incoherent.

>>15748414
>>$40k
>Fuck.
Not that much for such a nice watch desu all things considered. A steel Nautilus is 70k

>>15748412
I've tried it on. The bracelet is very comfortable and well made, can't deny that, but it is still not very attractive and looks incredibly dated. The dial and movement though are great.

>>15748401
I like the Zenith Elite

>>15748396
>>15748400
It's watches like these that are the reason Patek remain at the top of the trinity. Say what you like about their prices but they know how to design a watch. Patek can shit out timeless classics at the drop of a hat while others try for years and end up with the Code 11:59.

>>15748419
That’s probably a bad example since you used to be able to get a basic steel Nautilus circa 2012 for ~$22,000. I don’t even know what they retail for now...around $38,000? Moot point since no one can get the things anyway. I don’t know who would be buying those things other than Instagram clout chasers to be honest.

https://youtu.be/127o_eXcju8
I don't particularly mind the Speedmaster but the whole snoopy meme is pretty fun

>>15748429
Yeah. Whatever you think of their business practices, their design is above reproach.

>>15748239
is this supposed to be some sort of gotcha?

>>15748435
The Snoopy sneedmasters are some of the most expensive ones around too

Also I heard the movement in this one (manual wound but with metas certification) will show up in the regular ones too

>>15748443
Anytime someone says
>post your collection
They’ve lost the argument and are fishing.

>>15748443
Since they love GS so much they must own several. I'd like to see them.

>>15748143
Thanks

>>15748442
These watches are designed to make it easier to read while driving I think

>>15748452
Where's your Patek?

>>15748480
Which one?

>>15748482
Cringe

>>15748482
That's a nice pp

>>15748359
Oh you’re the retard who thinks an f40 is the best sports car ever made. What’s the obsession autismo

>>15748486
The steel is fine but the secretly best Nautilus is the chocolate dial rose gold 5711.

>>15748501
>rose gold 5711
do they also get the retarded markups like the steel counterpart?

>>15748498
... what?

It's a simple fact that the F40 was always a spartan, barebones sports car.

>>15748503
They do now but there was a period when it was completely overlooked. I bought mine on the grey market, brand new and unworn, for list price. At the time it a few $1000 cheaper that what the steel was going for. Madness.

>>15748406
Does it come in black?

>>15748482
timestamp or gtfo

>>15748522
Even with a timestamp they could be fake, at the very least we can see that the dude likes the designs.

>>15747916
you never wear a watch with a tuxedo

>>15748522
I could but I cba.

>>15748532
Not fake, I've posted before. I have a 5227G too. I think that is a very under appreciated piece.

>>15748515
There's a black ceramic one with a rubber strap

>>15748539
how did you get all that money ? pls tell me, im broke

Never wore a watch, I need your advice /fa/. 1. What is the cheapest european watch ( not assembled/made in china), budget 30euros ) ?
2. Found dirt cheap ( 30e ) rolex and g-shock on instagram page, are they 100% fake and can i recognize if they are?

t. poorfag who wants to show off

>>15748554
You're too retarded to wear a watch, you would end up swallowing it for error and suffocating to death

>>15748554
the rolex is most likely real, some instagram pages have connections to the production in geneva and can sell them for around 30 euros

>>15748554
Luch - at least the original movement is made in Belarus. They have some very cheap models with their (((in-house))) movement.

>>15748562
>>15748573
Thank you anons

>>15748554
>1. What is the cheapest european watch ( not assembled/made in china
A rolex oyster perpetual new they start around 4,000 euro.
The only other watches that are actually made in europe out of parts made in europe get even more expensive from there.

>>15747970
Neat. It would be nice if it features the 6L. They haven't used that movement in enough models yet. While I would like a 45KS reissue, at least the case shape survives today in GS as the "44GS case" that actually looks more like the shape of the 45KS.

>>15748554
>What is the cheapest european watch ( not assembled/made in china)
Entry level Nomos models are probably the cheapest watches you can buy manufactured and assembled entirely in Europe. They're around $1,500 USD. They probably won't fit your taste if you want to flex though.

>>15748238
>you can put it on a brown leather strap and it immediately becomes casual
Are you retarded? Leather isn't more casual than a bracelet.

You never actually own a PP.
You merely buy it to sell for a profit.

>>15748658
ETA movements aren't actually made in europe. At best they are assembled in Europe out of chinese parts but even that is debatable.

>Does that mean that parts come from the Far East and are used in Switzerland ?
>>"Swiss Made" is an exactly defined term. It means that apart from the assembly, at least 50 percent of the parts are made here.
https://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=1701&rid=2

Vintage Seiko chronographs. Are they gud?

>>15748695
I'm aware of that, but Nomos manufacturers their ETA derived designs themselves, they don't purchase ebauches from ETA. At most they might still be sourcing escapements for their ETA derived movement designs from Nivarox.

>>15748704
Oh i didn't realize you could get a nomos movement watch for that cheap. I thought they started around $3k

>>15748712
Nomos earlier movement designs are derived from ETA movement designs, but they manufacture them themselves now. Nomos also designs and manufactures their own ground up movement designs, including manufacturing their own escapements, those movements are used in their more expensive models.

Check out the amazing finish and attention to detail.
FROM THE EARTH
TO THE EARTH
MUDMAN

>>15748694
You never actually own a PP.
The bank does.

>>15748731
Damn it I want one.

>>15748734
That's too accurate. Anyone who finances a watch because they can't just buy it on a whim is a full on drooling moron.

Could i put a waffle strap or any other seiko oem style strap on this or would it look stupid? I already ordered a tropic style strap for it but i was wondering if any other rubbers would look good. I was considering an isofrane style strap as well be I don't think it would work at all.

Buy a sneedverso guys

>>15748744
Waffle strap (yeah i know the san martin ones are overpriced i just grabbed this as an example)

>>15748744
>>15748749
Seiko oem style

Quartz Chronograph > Mechanical Chronograph.
This is an irrefutable fact.

What are /wt/'s thoughts on TAG Heuer? Been thinking about either the monaco or aquaracer.

>>15748769
Wow that was easy.

>>15748769
A mechanical chrono makes a lot of sense though; the intervals you time tend to be pretty short, so the "inaccuracy" of the mechanical movement is going to be insignificant.

>>15748773
Monaco for sure due to it's icon status. Aqua racer is ok if you can get it for cheap. Though if you get a monaco make sure it has the crown on the left side of the watch like the original.

>>15748658
What makes the Nomos Club so much cheaper than all the other ones, anyway? I'm not even talking about the ones like the Lambda or the world timer.

Anyone thinking of getting this "Hruodland" fifty fathoms homage? It's sized down to 41mm.
$530 with an sw-200

>>15748749
Definitely waffle or anything else. I don't understand why anyone would want a seiko oem style strap. No a differ doesn't look stupid on a rubber strap it's a good choice.

>>15747697
This is why I went full Mardi Gras/metal Mario with mine, it has its own chink soul and isn’t a straight rip of anything. But interestingly enough, Casio has since done a metal Mario cased version of one for their smaller models.

>>15748554
buy a luch one hander, it uses their old inhouse movement, has novelty value, looks good and is cheap. stainless steel with small exhibition window
https://luch.by/en/kollektsii/odnostrelochnik/

>Found dirt cheap ( 30e ) rolex and g-shock on instagram page,
110% fake, dont be stupid

Should I? or stick with known brands

Girlfriend just asked me if she could borrow and wear one of my watches.
Kinda don't wanna give it to her, cause i think she wants to keep it.
On the flipside, who cares it's just a watch and it would be a nice gift.
What do?

>>15748836
you should stop spamming this shit every fucking thread like a shill
it's been like 3 or 4 threads, either you should fucking buy a watch or shut the fuck up and stop shilling

>>15748825
I still think this is one of the best recased 5600s I ve seen.

How about a "Feice" brand homage?

>>15747916
Why is the richest man in the world with a legit freak like that?

sneed

>>15748838
Tell her to jump off a bridge

>>15748792
Thanks anon.
Yeah i agree the seiko oem style strap looks kind of cheap and crappy, I kind of like it because it feels nostalgic, reminds me of g-shock straps

>>15748838
what kind of watches are we talking about?
its kinda rare that a woman is actually interested in whoreology
>>15748836
>memequartz
why not, whatever

What happens when you unscrew the screw?

>>15748838
>gf
if it's a watch under $100, then go ahead. I wouldn't really let her "borrow" anything more expensive than that. Why not wife her already and give her something decent?

>>15748863
>unsdrew

>>15748850
I like this photo a lot

>>15748863
>>15748870

>>15748863
>over $200 for engrish watch
oh no no no hahaha

>>15748838
Give her a fucking watch

>>15748848
Awww shucks, thank you very much anon

>>15748850
how much lul

Post watch collections

>>15748850
Feice? More like "faeces", lol

>>15747577
Please respond.

>>15748252
Metal bracelets are fucking stupid to run or bike with. Nylon is the best. Plastic 2nd best. Leather 3rd. Metal clanks and rattles and never fits perfectly unless fabric or leather or plastic.

Weight, another big deal.

Metal is formal. The rest are pretty low key and comfortable and not flashy for everyday.

>>15748554

No anon I'm sure a 30 euro rolex is totally legit, you are about to get the deal of the century!

>>15748723
What is your goal.
It's a great lightweight piece that tells time for half a decade. 75 ¢ for a battery and it'll work flawlessly for another half decade

>>15747441
How do you think the watchmakers and personell at brands like PP feel? They usually don't wear the watches that they make and Patek is taking the piss. Even in my small-ish town the Porsche dealership guys all drive Porsches, the lower end employees obviously don't own them but still.

>>15748902
It's like $200 on amazon

>>15748946
That can go for any manufacturing. The people that build yachts, construction guys that build luxury hotels absolutely laugh at the ultra elite that buy such consumer shit. They have pride in their craft but deep down, genuinely know that I'm the halo effect/ synthetic aura of high end stuff is just human consumerism that makes think that women will want them for buying certain shit over other shit

I used to hate this brand so much. Why am I starting to think they're cool?

>>15748974
B&R is pretty soul normally.
Those Genta "inspired" watches are soulless.

>>15748858
A nice watch for my standards. I purposefully left out what it is to avoid the typical /wt/ shitflinging.
She isn't really into watches. Just likes this one and i think she wants to have something of mine for the thrill of it.
Keeps wearing my shirts and sweaters also.

>>15748866
>Why not wife

I'm 27, and don't plan on getting married till I'm about 35 desu. She's a nice girl though.

The point I'm getting at is:
>Is it different symbolically to gift someone one of YOUR watches, as opposed to buying them a gift one.
I have a lot of history with this one and I'm pretty attached to it. Maybe that's why she wants it.

>>15748921
>Metal is formal
You're an idiot

>>15748977
Idk while the br05 is absolutely ro derivative I feel like they can get away with it, as pretty much all the design elements were already in their design language except the integrated bracelet

>>15748980
I hate women so much it's unreal

>>15748781
>>15748777
quartz chrono can run constantly and literally never need a service
mechanical chronos are fragile as fuck and need constant expensive service. also most have suttetery chrono hands and are thick as fuck

>>15748998
Well yeah but they look like this.

>>15748980
you dont sound that invested in her but i understand

shes trying to dominate/override you and see how far she can go, dont.

you can pamper women once in a while but give them too much and she'd step all over you

>>15749001
you spend more time looking at the front of the watch than the back

>>15748998
Quartz watches still need servicing retard. The only reason people generally don't do it is because servicing it would cost more than the movement itself.

>>15748986
I agree it has most of their regular design elements but it's still soulless. Every company except Rolex (recently, and Tudor doesn't count) and GS havent followed on the integrated bracelet meme.

What do we think of Breguet?

>>15748974
>>15748977
Isn't Bell & Ross a new brand trying to cash in on non-existent aviation heritage?

Srsly want to know.
Saw one in the wild recently and it struck me.

>>15749032
most heritage is made up
the real problem with bell and ross is their watches are overpriced

>>15749022
Good brand. But their current designs are awful.
Think the only one I currently like is pic related.

>>15749035
>those lugs
oh no no no

>>15748959
Fair enough. It justs looks so weird to me because at the end of it's still just a watch after all.

>>15749038
>>15749038
>>15749038
>>15749038

>>15749035
I wish this dial was more open, like pic related.
The dial design on that Marine makes a small watch look even smaller.

>>15748980
Gifting your watch to your lover is just one step below giving her an engagement ring, it stands for a strong bond shared and a future imagined together.
You might want to spare her from disappointment and let her know that you're not intent on marrying anyone anytime soon: being a nice girl she probably deserves as much.

>>15749037
Ya ngl those lugs are a little long/don't match the dressy look. Though, this is breguets "sports watch".

>>15749009
>>15749046

Great advice, thank you.

>>15749033
>most heritage is made up
wellllllllll

VC for instance has been in uninterrupted business since it was founded in the 18th century. That's pretty real.

>>15749064
>most

>>15749017
no they dont
battery changes dont count.

>>15749077
Yes they do. No I'm not talking about battery changes. They still have moving parts that require relubricating after a certain amount of time. Your quartz watch isn't magically immune to physics because it has a tiny tuning fork that keeps the time.

>>15749088
>require relubricating
Quartz doesn't have an escapement assembly that's undergoing constant friction you fucking monkey.
Maybe google shit before parroting things you don't understand.

>>15749110
Every other moving part in the watch does undergo friction you absolute brainlet.

>>15749124
the gear train in quartz doesn't need lubrication, or even jeweling unless you're going for HAQ

>>15749128
Yes it does, you can't be this fucking stupid.

>>15749130
https://miyotamovement.com/product/0S10/
show me where monkeynigger

>>15748971
nice

>>15748158
Look at the sideprofile

>>15748232
Looks like a good everyday watch

>>15748252
Leather rules Dressiness

>>15748344
>So what you're saying is luxury shit is overpriced garbage being sold to retards who just want to spend money they have too much of?
He's right

>>15748366
Watch IDGuy, Lange's Design is incredibly based

>>15748401
I like the 38mm el primero but a speedy (more reliable) rolex and jlc would have to come first. High cost, high service cost, not as iconic as the speedy, low resell value.

Oh and there type 20 is fucking hug, lug to lug!

>>15748482
The aquanaut, fast turning into my grial. I'm 10 years off it probably, I have other commitments.

>>15749136
Different anon, the problem with quartz is the circlet boards breaks down over time and solder cracks and other parts have a electrical parts have a lifespan.

Yes the quartz will need far less maintenance but when it dies it will been a movement replacement but you should own mechanical chronos if you can't afford to service them.

>>15748554
Yema led is cheap and euro made afaik

>>15748695
>"Swiss Made" is an exactly defined term. It means that apart from the assembly, at least 50 percent of the parts are made here

I've seen anons here claiming that if Chinese factories meet Swiss standards that the factory legally becomes "swiss" and the whole thing can be made in china but still qualify as "swiss made." it was an unsubstantiated claim but the above quote is pretty damning and that was 21 years ago. who knows how standards have changed since then.

>>15748917
This, imagine all the smirks you'd get wearing that piece

>>15749973
Japan isn't that much better either unless you pay extra, even the SAR[letter] lines and the lower end oceanus have chinese made parts.