/fa/ - Fashion

Is Sinn the ultimate tool watch brand (real watch not Seiko) or is there something better?

How would your watch fair against an onslaught of mud?

>>15638571
i guezz g-shock
i think its the best outdoorwatch

but what do u mean with toolwatch? a smartwatch could be a toolwatch as well i guess

>>15638571
Sinn & Damasko come to mind as some of the few brands that focus on actual modern tool watches.

>>15638571
Why is Seiko not a real watch?

>>15638573
Pretty good I think

>>15638571
Vostok. If you somehow manage to break it you can replace it for peanuts

>>15638599
lol no. anon wants a real watch.

https://www.amazon.com/Seiko-Prospex-Divers-Solar-Watch/dp/B07WW86J7H/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Seiko+SNJ025&qid=1602645096&sr=8-1
reposting from last thread, i still need a diver in my collection. should i get this, i really like it. if not, why?

>>15638620
its your money. buy what you like.

>>15638625
well yea, obviously. i just want to hear some opinions on this watch.

Should I ??

>>15638575
>i guezz g-shock
Sorry I meant Casio.
>but what do u mean with toolwatch?
https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/what-exactly-is-a-tool-watch.3646714/

>>15638583
"Below my budget = shit" usually.

>>15638616
How is vostok, a historic watch brand, not a real watch?

sup fags

I'm looking for a 34 to 38mm GMT that looks good on a leather strap with extremely casual wear.
Budget is, dunno, say 700.
Help is appreciated, thanks.

>>15638564
>A casio plastic diver it is then. They are like 35 bucks. Look up other casio MRW models, they have like 12 variants. But most are with numbers.

They don't have a screw down crown, so you can't wear it to dive or swim deeper elevation. Having to change batteries also suck cuz you have to reseal it properly and put the gasket back right. I'd rather just get a cheap Vostok.

>>15638565
anywhere to get old vintage watches that nobody wants anymore? something cool and worn that'll only run me like $100?

>>15638712
swapmeets

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>>15638749
>Not Solar. Have to change batteries.
>Made in China

https://hiconsumption.com/best-tool-watches/

Why are non-shit-looking tool watches so expensive? It's ridiculous that something like IWC Timezoner costs 12k.

>>15638759
Post one (1) current production digital watch that isn't made in China or Thailand, reminder that most "made in japan" stuff isn't.

>>15638644
The numerals look really bad. Get a rotary, they have several dial layouts. Or get any other square watch if you like it.

>>15638571
>tool watches
no such thing anymore, not for these prices and especially not when everyone who would still need a tool watch now has computers that do absolutely everything, do it better and are ridiculously more versatile for the price
the only "tool watches" that still exist are G-Shocks because of how cheap they are and because they basically work as a tool array with several sensors

Just checked out German amazons prime day. Holy fucking lol!
The best they got is Fossil and micheal Kors!
Other than that, it’s all stuff like czoka, burei, gigandet, lige, bewell, bersigar or pagrne [sic] design chink fakes. I really hate it that there’s virtually no distinction between AliExpress and Amazon anymore.

Fuck, didn't notice the thread changed.
>>15638417
>If you take out the modern GS and credor movements, what is the best one seiko has made?
For vintage automatic, I'd say 5646 if it didn't have the annoying breaking quickset problem. So instead probably 5246 (which is objectively better, but I like the 56 design more). Both are slimmer and much more elegant in design than the high-end models of the 61 series. For vintage hand wind, the 4502.

For modern movements, the 4S15 and derivatives (which is just a resurrected 52XX). The 4L/6L movements look interesting, but I don't really know much about them. The 4R and 6R movements are ok, but in design they are essentially the same as 7S so a bit boring.

>>15638712
you can get soviet vintages for like $35 on ebay

watches are a meme get a real hobby

>>15638899
>Everything I don't like is a meme

>>15638899
meanwhile your hobby is telling others to get a real hobby

I really like this design.

>182 sterling

Wtf? Why on earth will anyone with common sense pay that much for an automatic shitter that has only a "nice" design.

I know this is the basic bitch amphibian but I really like this one. Like the casio fw91.

Maybe because it features in that Bill Murray movie. I want another vostok.

>>15638952
Imagine buying a nu-Bond promotional watch.

>>15638958
I didn´t even know that. I just like swatches designs, like the 51 or the 112.
But come on man, more than 100 bucks for that shit?

Moving to the point that really matters, where can i see all Vostoks Amphibian classics and specials as a list? I wanna buy another one. And searching in Meranom it´s just a pain in the ass

>>15638966
Meranom, just click the category name instead of clicking + and it will show all the watches from that range

What do you think about this?

>>15638958
>Bond promotional watch.
arent all bond watches omega?

If you had $5k for your entire collection of watches for the rest of your life, would you buy one watch, and which one/why, or would you buy multiple watches, and which ones/why?

>cant afford an automatic

>>15638990
1 or 2 decent watches. quality >>> quantity.

>>15638999
Is it possible to get 2 decent watches for 5k though, it sounds like a 1 G-Shock + 1 decent watch budget.

>>15639001
its possible. a Sinn and a Nomos would work in that budget for example

What does it matter anyway, if the watch I actually want to save up for is too big for my skeleton wrists?
I feel nothing but pain.

>>15638986
The watch that james bond wears is an Omega, but swatch group doubled up and gave Q a quirky swatch that they could sell cheap to all the colectorfag comic movie tipes that can't afford an Omega.

>>15638990
I would spend 3 or 3.5 thousand on a top of the line Citizen Chronomaster then spend the rest on one of the black titanium g-shocks.

>>15638990
>>15639009
Yeah sinn and nomos.
Minimatik and a sinn 556

>>15638990
The new 2020 rolex OP 34 with the sick new silicon hairspring movement in it.

>>15638999
i rather have a whole box full of shitters. Imagine only having the choice or 1 (lol?) or 2 (only two..?) watches. Kinda sad to be so limited with choice

>>15638572
Trying to find a Seiko SNK809 for sale somewhere.

>>15639043
Only half of those watches are actually nice.

>>15639044
It's over man, time to move on, they were overpriced at $90 and now they are going for over $100, they just aren't worth it. Save up and get a hamilton khaki on the grey market.

>>15639025
Weird choice, 2 non-luxury watches. Why not just wear the G-Shock everywhere if you're not concerned about the brand positioning at all?

>>15639043
The bulova curve is awesome, that and their spacewatch would probably sell like hotcakes if they were smaller.

>>15639043
Nice toes anon.

>>15639044
>>15639056
>look them up on amazon
>$150
lol....................

ebay has them for $90-$100.
their actual "worth it" price is like $65, but that was years ago and whatever.

>Citizen chronomaster
>Non luxury
It's a more of a luxury watch than anything the bottom half of the swatch pyramid makes.

Speaking of citizen they are about to release a new, and their cheapest to date, watch using their caliber 0100 movement. That's the ±1 second per year quartz movement they introduced a few years ago. MSRP is around $6,700

>>15639093

>>15639100
Star dials like that are cool as hell.

>>15639093
If you're using a quartz, might as well get the radio sync, what's the point of accuracy of the movement?

>>15639093
>>15639100
is there one without that inflated Articuno on the dial

>>15639110
>radio sync,

thats cheating and goes against the entire spirit of watchmaking

>>15639093
Imagine paying this much for a Rolex ripoff

>>15639093
The reality of the matter is that if you have that amount of money to burn, you use it to buy something to flex on bitches, not a fucking Citizen that looks like a $50 Cadisen off aliexpress, no matter how good it is.

>>15639043
>rather have a whole box full of shitters
That is the first big mistake any watch collector makes and one we almost all do. Once you own your first really good watch you realise what an idiot you have been.

>>15639114
So is quartz lmfao

Fortis has gone insane btw, 4300CHF

>>15639119
there are many different kinds of collectors and you are wrong

many of the most hardcore collectors are those of the "gonna catch them all" spectrum

>>15639119
I'd rather have a diverse selection from the strange stuff in the 500-2000€ range than the same bunch of Rolexes and Omegas everyone already has.

>>15639129
all you are doing is buying a pile of scrap when you buy like that

>>15639138
then don't buy Rolex or Omega. duh

>expensive=good
lol

>>15638980
Mwc are fucking garbage overpriced, and that model looks like photoshopped chink shit

>>15639144
>i-if you dont buy this heavily marketed (((overpriced tool watch))) you are buying a bunch of scrap!!

brain conditioned

>>15639154
>overpriced
that's your own prejudice showing.

>>15639110
They keep threatening to turn off the radio for timesynce in the USA. It's located pretty far away from lots of the country and the reception can be pretty unreliable or require you to put the watch in a window at night. Radiosync is good but it's not a silver bullet. A super accurate quartz movement is much more satisfying from a horology perspective.

>>15639145

>>15639167
keep mentally justifying how its ok for speedmasters to go from 2k to like 5k in just a few years

a watch is overpriced the moment it gets more expensive than a similar watch released earlier(after adjustment for inflation)

fite me jews

>>15639168
Well, from an engineering standpoint, I'd argue that a cheap innovative workaround is a lot more impressive than iterating upon a concept to the extreme. Maybe thats why I like quartz shitters so much.
Maybe its just because I'm poor.

Thoughts on Thomas Sabos?, I get there just overpriced flash watches but would like abit of bling without paying out the arse for it, also seeing as it german made it cant be too bad surely.

>>15639193
well its your standard quartz chrono, perfect for daily use. Not too bad if you want to have a 'manly' watch

>>15638749
i have this watch, it's fine. I surf, exercise and work outside with it. Tough as stone

>>15639173
My biggest regret in life is that I didn't get it while it was 2k, I still can't fucking understand why.

>>15638712
I usually search for good name non-Swiss historic brands on ebay and bidfun (http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun.cgi?10&ranfft&a&1usau).). Their quality is on par with the mid to upper-mid range Swiss watches of the era but you don't pay a premium for the name, some also have in-house movements and unique designs as a plus. The French and the Germans also have nice collectors' communities if you speak some of the language.
Vintage French watches (non-cult model LIP, Sarda, Difor, pre-Seiko era Yema, Airain) are quite undervalued, with some luck you can even find a Besancon observatory "chronometre" for that price.
The same can be said of West German watches (non-cult model Junghans, Arctos, Laco, Stowa).
Smiths/Astral was an British brand that became collectible lately but is still affordable.
There was a 1960-'s 1970's Japanese brand named Mikado that assembled higher quality Swiss and West German movements, fun quirky shitters.
There are then the various Eastern Bloc, Soviet, Chinese, and Indian (HMT, Allwyn) watches but sadly there are many frankens and redials among those, so do your research and bid with caution.

>>15639193
Look into Calvin Klein if you're looking for an affordable fashion shitter, they have some a handful of chronographs from minimalist to blingy to retro. CK is Swatch group's entry level brand, Swiss made, eta movements, finishing roughly on par with budget Tissots. They can be had for what you'd pay for the movement ($55-90) on Jomashop.

>>15639193
Guy's full name on the dial is such a mall shitter thing. Even if it's FP Journe. It just seems cheap.

>>15639173
That's the market. These companies are that, companies. Not maximizing your profits is dumb.

>>15639236
And yet nowhere near as dumb as falling for obvious price gouging.

>>15638571
Damaskos are functionally better as tool watches, though they're uglier.

The Tudor Pelagos is the best tool mechanical diver on the market.

The Rolex Daytona is probably the best tool mechanical chronograph as it has a free sprung balance and a vertical clutch, maximizing shock resistance.

The Seiko quartz Tunas are the best tool analogue quartz divers on the market.

Casio Oceanus models with the tough movement are the best general tool analogue quartz watches with their tough movements designed to re-align the hands after large shocks.

There's nothing that can compare with being a luxury watch owner, except of course being a luxury car/yacht/plane owner, but this is much better because it's always on your body. Imagine feeling like your dick is 10 inches and you can tell any pleb to fuck off because he's lower class than you. Fuck I'm getting a semi just writing this.

>>15639245
>This is your brain on a fifth hand Rolex

>>15638571
>is there something better?
Nautische Instrumente Mühle Glashütte

>>15639093
Nice. They starting to make more 0100 models. Hopefully they release one with a white dial on a bracelet eventually.

a PSA to NOT use a demagnetizer while your watch is RUNNING!

I did it on a cheap quartz watch and now its all screwed up kek

you should wait for the watch to stop moving or remove the battery before doing so!!

>>15639250
>Nautische Instrumente Mühle Glashütte
Problem with those is that they mostly look like kitchen appliances.

>>15639245
I know you're being facetious but I honestly do feel better when I put on a really good watch. Its like wearing a nice suit. You feel and act different and people instinctively react to you differently too.

>>15639256
>people instinctively react to you differently too.
you think too much
nobody cares lmao

>>15639256
>>I know you're being facetious
I'm not, I wish I could afford to look good and wear good clothes and a good watch, it's the most amazing feeling in the world and my greatest dream in life. I'd already feel like a king if I could buy front teeth, much less a luxury product.

I am conflicted. It has my favorite color but is so glossy it looks gaudy. I even replaced the glossy strap for a matte one but it still looks almost childish.

I want to like it. It has minimal features, and I like that because I do not need anything other than the time and date. But it is borderline cringe.

>>15639271
im sure there are other blue gshocks....

also trying to dress up a gshock is futile.

>>15638571
>why yes, I prefer to wear a watch built especially for the Royal Navy's elite clearance divers according to the strictest MOD specifications

Looking to round out this shitter collection with a microshitter. Suggesions?

>>15639286
Any reason why you want a microshitter specifically?

>>15639280
>christian weston chandler

>>15639292
kek

>>15639286
hked 1963 for that chrono action
or you can get a vintage since you lack that too.

>>15639271
Just get a square. Does everything I need. I have a phone I can check every octosensor on that

>>15639286
> want a microshitter
What could be worse than that Seiko and Citizen?!

>>15639298
post your collection or stfu.

>>15639288
The fun aspect, I guess. Feels like it's either microbrands or HH that are daring to do "new" things nowadays, and I'm too broke for the latter.

>>15639296
Thanks, I'll look into it. Might be a bit too dressy for my tastes but I appreciate it nonetheless.

>>15639298
You're watch :^)

>>15639286
First off get rid of that fucking hideous hydrocuckquest. One of the ugliest divers on the market

>>15639309
>The fun aspect
get one of these maybe

>>15638583
because he is saying non senses.

>>15639244
>Anything from Trolex in 2020
>Tool watch
Nahh

>>15639300
trust me you do not want me to do that to you.

>>15639309
> You're watch :^)
I'm not a watch but here is a watch.

>>15639253
... Why the fuck did you try to demagnetize a quartz watch? What did you think it would do?
Magnetization is a problem of mechanical watches, and even there one that is blamed way too often for all kinds of problems it can't possibly cause, because people think they know something about watches just by parroting things they read somewhere.

>>15639328
nice san martin homage, w2c?

>>15639334
Thanks. You can cop one at your local PP boutique.

>>15639341
i think i'll go for a gshock instead

i kind of don't mind this

>>15639350
That's your prerogative. Each to their own and all that. I prefer mine, a lot.

>>15639352
forgot to add, decent movement but 40mm would have been nice

>>15639356
nah 3 handers are boring to me and the texture reminds me of a soccer ball

>>15639352
why did this bit have to be off centre, its triggering

>>15639352
Yeah it's like a Richard Mille but with taste

anyone know what watch Hedi is wearing here?

>>15639352
I don't like the logo but everything else seems fine.
Speaking of logos, which chinese ripoff company has the nicest logo? My vote goes to Pagani.

Also curious what watch Hedi is wearing here

>>15639286
Dan Henry 1937

>>15639328
based PP poster.

How do I regulate this? There’s a tiny screw on the end but no +\- arrows anywhere...

>>15639399
with a magnet

>>15639286
Get a watch by my favourite microshitter brand.

>>15639399
By giving a tiny little nudge on the lever with the two brass pips on it. Look at the mechanism underneath to determine which direction makes the effective length of the balance spring shorter (for faster ticks) or longer (for slower ticks). I may have those the wrong way around.

>>15639407
They should pay a graphic design student 5 euro and a sandwich to come up with a real logo for them

or this Hedi's watch?

>>15639407
Christopher
Ward

>>15639271
You can probably sand it with some fine grit to knock down the gloss some. Might be a bit of work but if you are already invested in the watch it's probably worth it.

>>15639352
Ooh a fellow Squale poster

>>15639292
The merge is coming.... Any day now.

>>15639424
what's the diameter and thickness of that model? Also, is it eta?

>>15639379
>>15639328
Post more pics.

https://mwcwatches.com/collections

What do you think about these?

>>15639437
Yes, it's an ETA

>>15639444
I don't know them but they seem to be operating in like 40 countries and claim to manufacture watches for militaries everywhere etc.

I'm not about the origin of manufacture or dimensions if they qualify for a larper's dream, but the prices seem OK. Nothing outstanding though from what I've skimmed over as far as performance/price goes, but I kinda liked this one

https://mwcwatches.com/products/mwc-24-jewel-300m-automatic-divers-watch-with-pvd-bracelet

>>15639286
Do you have a style preference for your new shitter? Plenty of decent microshitters out there utilizing workhorse movements and nice aesthetics.

>>15639458
What is an "elaborated grade?" Does that mean it's been tweaked/regulated beyond standard watch spec?

So basically, all of the last seiko movements before quartz are the peak? Which of them do you think is the easiest to get parts for, considering they're like 50 years old?

>>15638583
Because it is popular and inexpensive, thus terrible. This thread is typically filled with snowflakes who can't stand the thought of buying something a lot of other people own.

>>15639458
i dont mind the gmt one, it's 40mm

and there's this one too but bit larger

>>15639474
This one looks an awful lot like >>15639280

>>15639475
Well, I'd prefer a GMT or chronograph. As the other anons have suggested, I'm
looking into CW and Dan Henry's catalogs. Nothing too formal, I want to be able to wear it casually, with shorts and the like.
I got 6” wrists so my options are pretty limited, thats my main concern.

>>15639408
Thanks mate. I hope you’re right.

>>15639507
Yeah that limits your choices. Those 39mm Dan Henry chronos seem like they would be right up your alley. I've been tempted to check one out myself.

>>15639438

>>15639484

>>15639438
One more and that's it.

>>15639560
Grönefeld.. You sure must have a sick collection, anon.

>>15639560
Wow, how hard did you study and work to get such an important job that contributes to society so much that you can afford those?

>>15639040
34mm maybe for a vintage watch, not for a daily. I have small wristlet but fuck me dead, 36mm op at the least

>>15639555
Thank you anon, learn something new every day.

>>15639328
>>15639538
>>15639560

Very nice, excellent taste

>>15639597
More than likely born into a very wealthy family. I could be wrong, but everyone I've known who spends that much money on so many frivolous items was born into wealth as opposed to earning it from scratch. It requires a certain unfamiliarity with monetary struggles. More power to him either way.

Look at this focking dial

Rate my future collection, I'm looking timeless watches, maybe have it finished in the next 5-6 years, I'm happy adding slowly, using disposable income.

Recommdaions or advice is welcome

>>15639660
Like everyone told you last time, these are good but very safe choices, I'd definitely add some Germans to the list like Glashutte or Sinn.

>>15639660
>buys the most full on boring le leddit collection that every (mid life crisis) guy gets

get some imagination. It tells me nothing about you or your personal taste except the lack of one

its not even about cost or anything, the picks are too safe, too sterile and too lacking of any personality whatsoever.

What's going on with Tag, are they still alive? Haven't heard anything from them in ages in these threads, other than the occasional Monaco posting.

>>15639677
They have an amazing new Carrera that's literally the perfect watch except it's 2mm too big.

https://www.ablogtowatch.com/tag-heuer-brings-the-heuer-02-movement-to-new-standard-production-carrera-models/

>>15639637
Actually I come from a dirt poor broke asf, single mother, abusive alcoholic father, in debt most of my life background.

>>15639597
Harder than most, not as much as some but yeah getting a good education was key to escaping from my shithole childhood.

>>15639660
You have taken some of my advice to heart, but let me say that you shouldn't get a watch merely to tick the boxes, even if you are rich. Really think about whether you want each one. Maybe take some time to look at what else is out there, even if they're microbrands, even if you aren't going to get them or they're inferior, just to see more designs.

>>15639697
>Harder than most, not as much as some but yeah getting a good education was key to escaping from my shithole childhood.
Well, how did you afford it, what do you do, let's hear the details.

>>15639660
I bet the people who shit on the new Rolex OP's with the double indices will be same ones who say the GS is the best watch ever.

>>15639700
> Zeitwerk Decimal Minute Repeater
you and me anon could be friends.

>>15639707

Fuck off with your weird autism about people having money, every fucking thread with you whinging and complaining that some people aren't poor. Just save us some steps and skip straight to demanding that he gives you money to prove that he's not a bad person or whatever your weird bullshit logic is.

>>15639700

>>15639660
>go to popular watch channel
>sort by view count
>top 6 watches
gives off the vibe that you are so afraid of "buying the wrong choice" that you even avoided coloured dials. Its not a collection, its meekness. Like a kid who stuffs his pokemon team with all the OP legendaries with max stats and none of the pokemons he really likes because he does not want to lose a battle. JFC get a quirky omega tourbillon or something

>>15639697
My apologies then, you're a unicorn from my experience.

>>15639707
Nothing that original. Get a good Math degree and Msc. Ended up doing technical financial modelling and ML work for an investment bank. My last review bonus more than paid for that Grönefeld.

>>15639725
isnt atelier wen kinda expensive?

>>15639740
It's not even the most expensive one on the poorfag list, it's like $700. That being said while I was thinking about whether I REALLY wanted it the models I wanted was sold out.

>>15639719
Wow who hurt you?

>>15639732
That doesn't mean anything to people who aren't in that specific field, how did you pay for your education if you came from a "shithole childhood", and how exactly did you land all the positions that led you to your current job?

>>15639752
Nobody, I'm just sick of that third world grifter trying to use this thread to beg for money

>>15639503
MWC offers the same models as CWC does, built according to the same public domain MOD specifications but at a significantly lower price. Unlike CWC, they were never an official supplier to the MOD.
It's a legal, but not necessarily moral business model. You can also read about MWC making dubious claims and various quality issues resulting in them having a rather poor reputation as a shady copycat brand that's generally looked down by the military watch community.

>>15639758
It's called loans, pell grants, and scholarships, if you weren't such a bottom feeder that the banks, schools, and government wouldn't even lend you anything for college, you'd know.

>>15639758
Not every country is the US and makes you pay ridiculous money for higher education or even have to pay at all.

> how exactly did you land all the positions that led you to your current job
I applied and interviewed with the advantage that banks, hedge funds etc love mathematicians. Fairly sure at least half my masters group ended up in similar jobs.

I could keep going on and on, but you get the idea. There's a whole lot of stuff out there, and you probably don't have the same tastes as me but there's a whole world of watches out there.

>>15639777
Just ignore him, he is going to start saying that you cheated to get ahead of other people and demand that you buy him a watch or send him 5 grand, he is some weird third worlder that is mad as fuck that the average monthly income where he lives is $20.

>>15639040
this has a tiny women's watch movement in it

>>15639806
It's the same one they use in the small yachetmaster but without the date complication.

>>15639806
whats wrong with smoll movements?

like is there an actual technical reason besides that it is small?

>>15639769
How would I know if I don't ask?
>>15639777
So what is it exactly that you do? What is a hedge fund?

>>15639761
I wish people would just stop responding to him in the first place, he's really easy to identify once he gets going.

>>15639798
Fucking hell man you sound butthurt af.

>>15639818
In general, smaller movements will be more inaccurate and less robust, because everything needs to be finer and has less tolerance.

>>15639768
>You can also read about MWC making dubious claims and various quality issues
Link?

>>15639660
Drop the GS, get an used Calatrava.

>>15639818
it's just low brow to fit small movements into large cases
makers like FP Journe never do this
does it have meaningful real world differences no but nothing does in watches

>New FPJ limited edition
>green
I'm moist, fa.

>>15639824
PSA. If someone replies to your post and 1) instantly starts asking passive-aggressive questions 2) brings up his lack of money in a creepy way 3) states that everyone™ who is not a failure has a Rolex and people judge other people purely on a has Rolex - no Rolex -axis, do not reply. Even if he gets around to asking if you live in a cave and wear rags, it's still not too late to disengage.

>>15639858

>>15639813
it's a 20mm movement that goes into 28mm womens OPs

>>15639859
Are you on drugs rn?

>>15639858
but thats not green its yellow

>>15639859
i just assume anyone who asks about "money" or "class" or "oh i wish I was rich~" to be him

>>15639040
even months after release I still haven't seen a wristshot or video of this watch, has no one in the world bought it?

>>15639858
That's a limited edition only for the Dubai FPJ boutique and it has already sold out.

Knowing too much about watches is a virgin tell

Are the omega hand winding cal. 551 and 561 any good?

Also what is that yellow shit on the caseback?

>>15639910
another watch has the same yellow stuff on the back. Is it corrosion or just nasty dirt shit?

>>15639905
i already lost my virginity at 14 though

>>15639858
Do they make the dials and hands shit on purpose? Is it supposed to be se statement about how the movement is what matters?

>>15639327
The Daytona is enormously overpriced, and personally I think they're hideous, but objectively the Daytona movement is the most shock resistant mechanical chronograph out there.

I can't even think of any other mechanical chronographs that have both a free sprung balance and a vertical clutch.

>>15638583
cause it's popular and for a good reason since you get a whole lot for the price you pay. And usually people hate that to be special. Dude probably buys a 30 dollar Vostok and goes around telling people how much he's into classical pieces lmao

>>15639868
I posted the 34mm OP why are you talking about the 28mm?

>>15639843
I can't be arsed to dig up 10+ years old mwrforum.net threads, sorry. MWC's named got censored on the site as *** due to legal threats but some google fu will probably guide you to the right direction.

>>15639935
>you get a whole lot for the price you pay.
true in the past
less true now

seiko has been lusting after money more and more these days

>>15639768
>that's generally looked down by the military watch community
Oh no
Not the weirdo army men

>>15639910
>>15639916
Avoid buying vintage watches if you are unwilling to invest the time required to learn enough about the models that interest you to be able to independently evaluate their condition, originality, and price. You make yourself an easy mark for others to rip off trying to buy vintage watches without that level of knowledge.

>>15639943
Prices have gone up on some lines, but they still offer exceptional value throughout a majority of their offerings.

>>15639971
what do you think I am doing you dickhead. Either answer the questions or dont respond. I am asking to learn. What is the difference between asking here and asking on another forum.

People like you are the reason this thread is dead and filled with shitposting

>>15639950
idk anon, I have this (no doubt, reactionary) delusion that psychopathic surgeons know more about scalpels, and goat fucking farmers know more about combines than the average joe does, and thus it might not be unwise to consider their opinion before making a purchase. it might be the same with military watches and weirdo army men.

>>15639941
the no date Sub movement is 28.5mm and would've fit but they threw in a girl movement to save money

>>15639292
Its christine now, BIGOT

>>15639943
yeah idk mayne I got a SNKL41 recently and it really is a beautiful fancy looking watch for the 150 euro I paid for it. But thats just me.

https://www.chrono24.com/glycine/glycine-glycine-airman-dc-4-mystery-gmt-full-black-dial-bezel--pilot-strap-gl0070--id6643847.htm

This shit any good?

>>15640026
>150 euro
>$176
>for a 7s26 seiko5

yes its a good looking watch, probably one of the best looking seiko5s, but these were 55euro/$65 just 2 years ago

>>15640040
Maybe the SNK8xx series was, which can still be found for ~$80, but I don't ever remember seeing that SNKL for below $120 in recent memory.

>>15639328
FAKE

very obvious.

>>15640061
How so?

>>15639818
In a ladies' size watch it's a tech flex. In a larger men's watch with lots of space left over, it's the manufacturer opting for the cheapest movement possible, i.e. a proxy for shittiness.

>>15639079
Nice watch but do you have an infection on your wrist bone?

>>15639324
What’s that? Swatch? I sure hope it does have a good WR.

>>15639635
Thank you, anon.

Any assumptions what is this brand / model of watches?
Taken from there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETcYGsi4XyU&t=977s

>>15640154
IWC

>>15639654
Now find one for sale.
Go ahead. You can't.

>>15640164
Nope, logo its not that one, and i can't find exactly this model.
Mb im wrong, but it looks like is a first and last name on clock face

>>15639309
>The fun aspect, I guess. Feels like it's either microbrands or HH that are daring to do "new" things nowadays, and I'm too broke for the latter
I really like this watch. seagull automatic movement, $350. 40mm.

https://us.mrjoneswatches.com/products/colour-venn

>>15639654
That date window is sickening though.

>>15639362
>>15639352
I find the alternating colors distracting. like that spinning swirl at the beginning of the twilight zone.
and I'll make my standard complaint:
>spelled "squale"
>logo is the name written within the shape of a whale
>say it to rhyme with "whale"
>"mais non, non! ignorant american pigfat! it is "squah-lay"
and this is why everyone hates the french.

>>15640210
>"squah-lay"
That's not even how you say "squale" in french.
I blame every watch reviewer on the internet for pretending they know how to pronounce french in the first place.
>"squale" should be pronounced "skwal"

>>15639993
If you had searched for "Omega" "551" or "Omega" "561" even one time you would have figured out what the deal is with the "yellow shit on the caseback" immediately.

You will learn far more, and far more quickly by searching for key terms about the vintage watch you are interested in and reading everything you can find than you will learn by asking one question at a time on a message board. For one thing, if you don't do your own reading you wont be in a position to evaluate whether the things people tell you on forums are even vaguely correct.

Also, I just image searched those pics and found the overpriced listing they are from. In general don't trust sellers who post washed out, shallow focus pictures like that because they could easily be concealing the state of the watch case and/or dial imperfections.

Here are some general tips:

1) Avoid vintage dealers unless you know very well what you are looking for and are prepared to pay a significant premium for something in A+ condition.

2) When evaluating online listings make sure images clearly show whether and to what extent the case has been polished, as polishing vintage watch cases destroys their lines and their value.

3) Avoid listings that don't show pictures of the movement.

4) Never believe anyone who tells you a watch was "recently serviced" and expect you will have to have it serviced as soon as you get it.

5) The best quick way to check if a dial/hand/case/movement combination is correct and that you aren't looking at a frankenwatch assembled from spare parts is to websearch the exact model and make sure there are others out there with identical specs.

6) Learn how to spot redials and avoid them like the plague.

7) Never EVER buy a vintage watch from India, anywhere in Asia besides Japan, or anywhere in Eastern Europe (unless its a Vostok from Russia and you really know your shit).

8) Specialty vintage watch forums are great resources for learning about vintage models.

>>15639286
Check out lorier or halios

>>15640253
Thank you for the answers and tips. They were really helpful.

>>15639993
>>15640253

Oh and make sure you know a reliable independent watchmaker who is familiar with working on vintage watches. NEVER send a vintage watch to the official service center. They have no experience working on vintage watches and are likely to destroy the originality by wantonly replacing parts.

About those old Omegas, the 551 and 561 are members of one of the better movement families of the pre-quartz era. The chronometer version at one point succeeded in having a million movements in a row pass chronometer certification.

Also I would specifically recommend the Omega vintage database and the Vintage Omega Forum as resources if you are interested in these kinds of watches.

>>15640078
Ignore that idiot. He posts fake any time someone posts an obviously real and expensive watch.

>>15640271
Thanks, you said the listings were overpriced. I was actually looking for a hand winding geneve for some time. But most I saw were at least 900euro (for a decent looking dial that is).

What price is it worth according to you?

>>15640154
any suggestions?
guys pls

>>15639665
I was just looking some more advice, not everyone is on here daily. Have stowa, nomos and laco, nice watches but I. Looking to the furture and a step up.

>>15639670
>>15639700
>>15639727
I have been collecting for 7 years and have had a lot of watches. Don't think for a second if I'm paying thousands for a watch that I don't outright love the design and brand of the watch, I picked what I liked at a realistic price for 6 watches that I could buy without effecting other parts of my life.

Other watches I didn't go with: navitimer, santo, tanks, datejusts, explorer, 36mm daydate, panerai, Monaco, IWC portugieser / fliger, vintage omegas seamaster, polerouter, etc. There's a lot I didn't go with, I feel uses would have said the same thing whatever 6 watches I'd picked.

Coloured dials look like a joke, apart from blue. For me they never last more than a few months.

>>15639711
I would take a GS over an OP, I'm just not a fan of the OP.

>>15639853
Your on the money, I do like the 5107G-001 but idk if I like it £13-14k more than the GS

>>15640280
For a Geneve in reasonably good condition with a linen dial I wouldn't pay more than 750 Euros, and I would only consider that if a listing had good clear shots of the case and dial, and a movement shot.

Is the Timex t80 case steel?

>>15640154
>>15640285
JS Watch Co. Reykjavik: https://www.jswatch.com

>>15640078
the 3 o'clock index.

>>15640354
the specific models is "Islandus Black Roman"
https://www.jswatch.com/islandus-2/101-38mm-6bj89-n5rka-mt2f6-9b684

How do I get into watch autism

I have a Casio F-91W (no I am not a virgin) and looking to get my first proper watch. I like leather armbands desu. Brown. But I am not sure what to buy. Price range up to 400 quids.

>>15639407
>circular design
>only type is two rows both alligned as far left as possible
for what purpose?
also the trident is cringe.
too bad. those are both deal breakers on otherwise awesome watches.

>>15640378
You can put a leather band on anything. Read the faq at the top. Good place to start is decide if you want a chronograph/diver/pilot/fashion/"minimalist" watch

>>15639560
this movement is one of the most beautiful I've ever seen

>>15639654
needs more numerals and indices

>>15639660
I don't care about divers or chronos, but the GS and JLC are quite nice

>>15640391
What makes it even more impressive is most of that finishing is done on steel. No one does that to such a level because of how hard the metal is.

>>15639774
beautiful but I don't trust a fashion brand

>>15640410
Chanel may be a fashion brand but they also make high end watches. Just like Cartier though without such a rich history.

>>15639774
>Chanel boy friend skeleton
>boy friend

>>15640326
What's the rest of your collection look like? That might help narrow it down, although I don't think anyone is going to ask you to rip out the reverso.

>>15640113
jeez, that gives me the willies

Rate my best modern watches list.

>>15640423
where can I find an autismo boyfriend whos into watches as well?

>>15640210

>>15640437
seattle

>>15640436
>when you upsize the image but not the pixels

>>15640447
>when fuck you autist

>>15640210
Looks more like a shark

>>15640406
very cool. logo sort of looks like it was designed to appeal to a guy with tribal tattoos and tapout gear, unfortunately.

>>15640449
i cant rate your watches when I CAN SEE SHIT you retard

>>15640455
CANT**

i cant even see what the brand is
>>15640436
>>15640436

L2mspaint

>>15640455
If you can't recognize them then why would I want your opinion?

>>15640460
because they are several HH watches that look like that??
your watches suck dick btw
you look like some stupid producer michael wannabe

>>15640444
oh, right. that tiny line drawing is obviously a shark and not a whale. and I should immediately assume it is a french word because...

>>15640466
>producer michael wannabe

your eyes went straight to the rolex obviously you gay simp

>>15640360
Looks like it's supposed to look. Do you know what you are talking about, anon?

>>15640526
No it doesn't.

>>15640354
>that World Cup watch with a 45 minutes time for half-times
Pretty good.
Had that been 40 minutes for rugby games, this would have been the perfect watch.

>>15640360
>>15640554
wtf are you talking about? It looks exactly how its supposed to.

>thread for sinners
No one posts interesting Sinn autism.
Sad.

Apparently, this is for doctors and can be easily disinfected.

>>15640585
And this thing has stuff on the dial for firefighters and their oxigen supplies (do those guys really buy xk€ watches?)

>>15640585
The better version would be, y'know, actual nurse watches that aren't worn on the wrist.

>>15640585
>>15640590
the flatness is killing me

>>15640590
Or a watch for hunters?

>>15638417
>implying that modern seiko can even compete with the VFA watches anymore

>>15640602
And my favorite autism:
They invented an official standard for pilot watches?
So all those famous pilot watches? Well, those aren't really real pilot watches, because they don't meet the pilot watch standard! So they're just like non-ISO certified ""divers""!
But pic related of course is a certified, real pilots watch!

>>15640613
German autism at its finest.

>>15640611
You know modern seiko made VFA pieces right?

>>15640595
It's for emergency responders and ambulance heli crews and such, I think they probably wear wristwatches, but other than that, your're right.
I mean, I really like Sinn, but I'd guess they're 99% LARP (as are all tool watches apart from G-shocks and the like).
Same with Mühle.
Doubt that anyone at the DGZRS is wearing pic related for work.

>>15640601
Pleb. DFD is where it's at, not 3DPD!

Well guys, I ordered it.

>>15640626
It's interesting that the Yema air force watch was an actual military issue though. Doesn't happen that often anymore.

>>15640628
That has to be the ugliest thing I've seen since looking at Vostok Europe's website.

>>15640650
I think it looks kinda cool

>>15640345
no, even Casio won’t give you a metal case that cheap.

>>15640650
I really like Vostok Europes stuff. If it came in sizes smaller than diner plate, I'd certainly get pic related.

Just got the new limited edition ghibli lads wdyt

>>15640690
Vostok Europe is like the slav Invicta

>>15640345
>Timex t80

its so cheaply made, you can see the folded links AND the mold lines of the resin case
not even a $10 casio is this bad
and this timex is like $80!!

>>15640717
forgot pic

>>15640611
>>15640619
Not to mention the free sprung twin pulse escapement they recently developed.

My old man's 5513.

>>15640428
I'm over the older Rolex braclets and out of love with milguass. Trade up to the new sub, same for the older seamaster to the new one, want a travel watch on rubber.

I have a stowa fliger, nomos club and laco which I use as beaters around the house.

>>15640752
The white explorer is such a stunner! What's up with the old bracelets? Why don't you like them?

New thread

>>15640757
>>15640757

>>15640759
Looks good off the wrist, on the wrist not as pretty. Braclets without micros adjustable clasps are just not for me, hard to go back to bad fitting watches. Hollow links on top of that.

>>15638595
Ayy.

>>15640172
Are you sure?,looks similar to the old logo international watch co and under that schaffausen

>>15640056
Actually my SNKL43 was 83€ 4 years ago.
Sadly it was stolen this year when COVID started and I was out of my house.

Rip, I don't feel like wasting almost twice the amount now.

>>15639996
It depends, really. Are they real army men or redditors larping as them? I agree with you if it's the first case. In the second... No so much.