/fa/ - Fashion

>>15618290

* sad music *
I just noticed this a few days ago.
Might it be from the minoxidil that I started taking a few months ago ?

>>15618290
You seem alright.

How bad is it?

>>15618290

>>15618290
It's too bad to post. Anyone here had a transplant before?

>>15618290
Mate, that looks completely fine
I'm a Norwood III vertex just km

Shid

>>15618343
still salvageable

>>15618301
why does this woman look like someone moved both of her eyes half an inch one way

>>15618290
Nobody cares about your faggot hair go to /fit/

I'm 18.

I'm 18.

What are we working with?

>>15618290
RIP

>>15618314
Unfortunate

>>15618343
Not awful but you should do something soon.

>>15618421
Same as above

>>15618592
Not bad

>>15618959
Red alert. Shave or treat immediately

>>15618959
18? That sucks. I'd say get on fin but you could still be in the age range where DHT is needed.

it’s over now

>>15619143
cringe

26

>>15619361
How old?

>>15618994
Nothing to panic about, maybe keep an eye on it though.

>>15619461
24

Everyone who's balding needs to watch this video

https://youtu.be/1ysGYRSYF6A
https://youtu.be/1ysGYRSYF6A
https://youtu.be/1ysGYRSYF6A

Don't go on the hairloss forums whatever you do.

stop your bitching (22)

How bad, hairdresser told me they were growing back

>>15619602
Sorry to say anon, but that's very bad. You're 100% balding.

>>15618997
You have a terrible eye. No idea what you're talking about.

>>15619626
Correct me, then.

>>15619468
It's a bit high on the temples, but it could just be a mature hairline. I'd keep a close eye on it, maybe consider treatment.

>saves your hairline

>>15618343
hard to tell because not everyone has the same hairline shape, and you could just be maturing. i don’t see that as thin for a blondie. compare older pics if you can, you’ll know best but you could start dermatology there if you want to head start before adding cumin/fin like 75% should have done years ago
>>15618440
i am also NW3V at age 26 and just now starting min/fin/dermarolling/rosemary oil. do you have hopes for yourself? does anyone have hopes for me? transplant fund is about halfway there, trying to wait until 30 to pull the trigger though.
>>15618592
eh i think you’ll honestly be fine. if you were blonde i’d worry.
>>15618959
oof bro i’m sorry, that looks pretty drastically receded but idk how thin you’re getting because blonde. if you have full vertex left grow out some bangs to cover it for a few years until you’re ready for the meds.
>>15618994
keep an eye on it before you get to >>15618959 level, you’re only receding not thinning
>>15619361
no you have a legitimate widows peak that isn’t from receding hairline. but also you maybe are receding in the very sides there. i’d say dermaroll that shit if you’re fine elsewhere.
>>15619437
i don’t think that’s receded, i think you just don’t have a straight hairline.
>>15619453
bro fuck you lol
>>15619554
you know what man i will absolutely stop my bitching, that is a travesty at your age. sorry m8.

Is NW3 average for a 33 year old?

>>15619702
literally just depends if you’re married or not

>>15619702
Seems right from my experience, most men 'maintain' until about their late 40s.

>>15618959
What is your diet

Tfw male family line keep full head of hair until death only catch us I started getting silver hairs as an adolescent

>>15619659
only slows down

>>15619737
If your balding sure. I just had a shitty hairline and if fixed mine

i'm 21 yo and norwood 1-2 should i start taking finasteride? I'm kindas cared my dick could fall of.

>>15619659
what that supposed to do

>>15620003
Increases collagen and revives dormant hair follicles

>>15620031
Cope, keep stabbing your hairline, fag.

>>15619728
I eat a pretty healthy diet with plenty of vegetables and protein. I think I'm just unlucky desu.

>>15619728
I eat a healthy diet with plenty of vegetables and protein. I think I'm just unlucky.

I don't understand the obsession with hairlines, it's such a minor criteria among others.

>>15619477
"everyone saying 'just shave it bro' is miserable and misery loves company"
you could say the same thing about everyone whose dick doesn't work due to finasteride. i trust this guy as much as i trust the baldcels aka not at all, but at least i don't have to fuck with my genes to shave my head

>>15619143
6ix9ine

>>15619143
face tattoos are cringe but if there's anything positive about them it's that you won't look half bad if your hair loss ever gets bad enough that you have to shave

>>15619737
implying thats not a huge win if youre balding

>hair recedes at 24
>shave it off
>people say I look weird and leave it as it is

these last 3 years have been the most depressing of my entire life

>>15619554
>>15619666
Eh had the initial fuck my life moment, but after buzzing it for almost a year now it's normal and I don't give it a second thought

If you're as bad as my hairline was just try shaving/buzzing it once, It'll be a shock for sure in the beginning but try and let yourself settle in before jumping into crippling insecurity and spending a shit ton on stuff that will make very little difference in the long run or a hair transplant that could go wrong and make no difference.

Obviously easier to settle if you have facial hair or a strong jaw line. If you have a weird shaped head though or a weak chin n no facial my condolences

So why don't you all get on
- 1mg finasteride a day
- 1ml minoxidil a day

>>15620833
because hormonal fuck ups are bad

>>15620156
That's your choice.

>>15620847
Almost no studies verifying these claims, all studies point to only temporary effects and they effect only 2% of men.

>>15620863
I don't know man
Took it for 4 months, felt like shit and man boobs were growing

I just black pilled and realised I will never be able to have my hair back

I once got in trouble in Japan for calling an almost completely bald man bald. Apparently over there it is uncommon that it is considered incredibly rude to acknowledge it when it happens.

>>15620866
You were the 2% unfortunately.

>>15620947
I've been on them 4 years, 0 sides.

how young is too young to start miniature finland? When do you not really need DHT anymore?

am i being paranoid or is it thinning in the center?

could be worse?

>>15620980
Age?

>>15620968
It's not thick but that kind of looks like your swirl. Maybe it's just high on your head.

>>15620893

I'm almost 100% sure the "samurai" hairstyle was a baldy cope

>>15621072
18

>>15621105
it's over

>>15619657
what treatment do you recommend?

>>15621079
You might be ok. Could just be a mature hairline.

>>15621138
I'm not an expert, but people usually recommend minox or finasteride.

>>15618301
why does that woman look like shes about to be decapitated live

>>15621105
oof

>>15620699
van gogh lookinass
doesnt look half bad though to be honest man, just embrace being slightly excentric

>>15618290

27 , welp I guess it was a good run.

I'm only 19 this is the end for me

>24 years old
>1 year on fin and minox
>2 hair transplants later

>>15621342
Before (21 years old)

Some questions regarding Finasteride / Dutasteride usage for those who have experience; I'm a Norwood 2 steaily going on 3, at age 29. How and when should I begin Fin / Dutast, if ever? Also, what potential side effects have you experienced? Lastly, what're your personal views on these compounds and how did you get prescribed these drugs.

>>15621341
I’m sorry brother

>>15621361
I can’t post sources here without getting IP banned. But I bought the 5mg pills for prostate cancer. Paid $20 for 28 pills. Crushed them in a pestle and mortar and diluted them with baking flour. Then used a capsule filling tray to make 300~ Capsules with around 0.5mg finasteride capsules.

Haven’t had any side effects other than being less horny, which for me is definitely a good thing. Haven’t had any problems with wood.

> Lastly, what're your personal views on these compounds and how did you get prescribed these drugs.

I wish I could’ve started at 17

>>15619659
what's the name of this?

>>15621394
Derma roller

>>15621374
Ah interesting, and regarding dosage did you take one capsule of 0.5mg per day? This was which drug too? Also, why not just take Fin or Dutast?

>>15621399
thanks

>>15619659
>>15621394
>>15621399
The "Derminator" is actually miles better, it's costly at about 150 but when you use it, it's far less likely to causing scarring inside your scalp. YouTube and Google it.
As you use a roller your skin rips at a microscopic level and through prolonged use can cause issues like scarring and blood flow problems
Any auto needler like the Deminator is considered a better machine/technique. Where the needle literally goes in and out and does get "dragged" like a roller

>>15621361
I have been taking 1 mg fin a day for 5 years now. hair has not moved a mm since then. dick is still hard, annoyingly so, as usual.

>>15621406
anything for the dick, lads?

Am I just being a paranoid autist? I'm 19. I've always had a bit of a U-shape but it's definitely gotten worse in the past year and a half.

>>15618959
You'll regret not shaving it. It's also too far gone to get on fin or whatever. Just own it.
>t. Was in your situation 5 years ago

>>15621402
Finasteride
I use minox too because the results from fin alone seem to be total shit.
https://www.bernsteinmedical.com/medical-treatment/patient-photos/
Neither fin or minoxidil will regrow dead follicles. To actually move your hairline forward, you need a hair transplant.
I’m also planning to get hairline advancement/forehead reduction.

I have a pretty expensive derma roller too (Dr Pen V8) but there isn’t a huge amount of data that derma rolling is effective.

>>15621410
Sweet, thanks for the reply B R U H
You just buy it online or prescription?

>>15621420
>>15621415
It’s not too late. If you’re willing to pay -10k in surgery and start on the drugs, your hair would be great. But you really have to commit.

>>15621423
I bought it online. In bong land, you can’t get anything cosemetic on our healthcare system (unless you’re a woman in which case you can get everything from breast implants to hair transplants for free). I could’ve gotten it from a private doctor but it would cost hundreds.

>take the buzzpill they said
You lied to me. I now look like a cancer patient. Thanks

>>15618343
stop wrinkling your forehead

>>15621433
Yeah UK here as well, I'm the OP of this post: >>15621361 and >>15621423

I didn't think the NHS would give us any to be honest, what site do you use for Fin then? I was thinking Dr Fox or something? Seems a good site, have to fill out a quick questionnaire to get the goods like.

>>15621444
Is that your knee?

>>15621374
you're hot

>>15621444
you look like the coomer

>>15620960
You need to be a fully grown man to do finasteride. DHT is necessary up until you're an adult.

>>15619666
So as far as I can tell looking back through pictures my hairline has always been stupid high. I think the corners sort of formed when I was around 19 though and haven't changed since. I'm paranoid that my hair has gotten thinner overall though but that might honestly just be because I went through a horrific breakup and now I'm hyper aware of every one of my physical flaws. I've hopped on fin + min so we'll see how it goes.

My hair started turning white at the ripe age of 11 but I like it

Thank god.

My hairline is alright but my hair's becoming a bit thin at the top and the bangs. I shampoo every day with a biotin + collagen sulfate-free shampoo, which may be overdrying my hair, so I'd like to shampoo less often. Problem is if I don't shampoo for one day it looks super oily and really shows how thin it is. I tried ACV + baking soda every other day for a couple months and my hair didn't get any less oily. What should I do?

Would dry shampoo overdry/cause hair loss just as much as shampoo does? Or would it be better to use it in between shampoo days?

>>15621679
God may have blessed your hairline, but not your under eyes

>>15621710
He cursed me with chronic insomnia.

>>15621342
>>15621348
Amazing result.

>>15621701
your scalp is used to being dry because of your shampoo tendencies so it takes every chance it gets to overproduce oil. if you take it down to shampooing once a week gradually and just massage your scalp in cold water and a little conditioner, it will probably improve in a couple weeks

>>15619143
face tattoos are unironically signs of low-t
you're cleared of balding king

>>15621679
why do bongs have these ugly dark circles?

>>15622019
>>15621714

>>15622019
Also, I'm a mick, not a bong.

>>15621444
That's shaved not buzzed

>>15621444

checked, also are you ?

>>15621342
>>15621348
sides??

>>15621079
oh you are fucked

>>15621341
im sorry friend

Im 19. My maternal grandad had a good head of white hair until he was 86.

I’m 19

fin is giving me gyno lads

>24
Redpill me

>>15623668
>>15621415
>>15621348
>>15621341
>>15618959
what is your environment like? do you eat healthy and exercise? do you have a lot of stress in your life? what's your sex life like?

>>15623674
>eat healthy
No. Any specific tips?
>exercise
Physically demanding job.
>stress
Only physical.
>sex life
Sporadic, mostly by choice.

>>15623674
>Health
Healthy diet with lots of protein and veg, work out 6 days a week
>Stress
About average, normal student stuff ig
>Sex life
Lol I wish

>>15623690
My hair looked its best when I was happier and healthier and had a girlfriend. I think bad hair is an indicator of negative emotions, poor environment and stressors.

how bad is it, and what do

>>15621348
you kinda look like Nick Fuentes

It is quite bad

I ordered fin today then cancelled the order, as soon as i get my refund im going to order it again thanks to this thread.

>>15623698
nothing to worry about

>>15623786
Why would you cancel? The only thing I regret about taking finasteride is not taking it sooner.

>taking pills mentally ill trannies take

it can even fuck up your fetus, and you put that shit in your body?

>>15623786
atleast try it, if you get bad sides just ditch it - they won't be lasting

>>15621879
I could try but my hair looks so awful if I don't wash it
pic related is without washing for a day (w/ the camera flash on). I'm only 18
I'm going to the dermatologist next month, is there anything I should ask for? is this even salvageable or can I only stop it from worsening?

>>15620035
it works if you arent actually balding. for 10 dollars its worth trying

Balding is also caused by low test. Hence when you see a chubby soi boi baldie he is low test.

How bad is it bros? I've had this same hairline since childhood where it's slightly higher in the corners. Took fin for a few months 3 years ago but stopped due to sides. Haven't had any recession since. I'm 23 now and worried if I should start taking it again just to prevent any recession. Dad has full head of hair in 50s with my same hairline, mom's brother is the same.

>>15623698
that negative canthal tilt should be your biggest concern

>>15623873
what do

For me its almost over, bros. I dont know what could have happened, but withing a this year I went from a mature hairline to almost no hair at the top of my head, sheding like crazy. Maybe corona, but my life hasn't change that much because of it.

>>15623903
Canthopexy is the only way.

>>15623903
It looks okay, take a picture looking straight at the camera instead of down

>>15619731
I went grey at 35, but still have a full head.

>>15623698
>>15623903
Also looks like you may have ptosis in addition to a NCT.

>>15623926
any idea why? stress? break up? diet? move house? age?

Hey you faggots want to know the secret to hair loss prevention (unless you're completely genetically fucked like some people are)

SLEEP

Fuck Danny Roddy. Fuck fin, min, and derma rolling. Pass out at 9-10 PM and wake up at 6-7 AM. No screens in your bed. Cold room. Don't do anything that compromises your sleep. No caffeine after 11 AM. No drinking alcohol before bed. Shed the stress in your life. Your goal should be to get the highest quality sleep possible.

>>15624024
any reason for that whatsoever

>>15624005
I'm 27. To be honest, my life is not as calm as I wanted it to be, but years past it has been even worse with college and such. No break ups.
My diet is pretty decent, I exercise, dont do drugs nor alcohol.

>>15624042
>one of the most evolutionarily preserved biological functions up there with literally breathing
>hurr why should you sleep

Because your body literally fucks itself if you don't

It's literally the reset button for the daily stress of being conscious

>>15624024
Hair loss is caused by androgens. Imagine ignoring all the science and biology and posting that. People have been bald forever despite many different circumstances and environments.

The single best hairloss prevention currently on the market is finasteride. That's just a (scientific) fact.

>>15624085
He never said why would you sleep. Of course you have to sleep for numerous things. But hairloss is caused by androgens in the body, and if anything, good quality sleep is likely to raise test (androgen) levels.

>>15624086
>imagine thinking that sleep isn't necessary for proper endocrine function
>imagine thinking that androgens are the only epigentic regulators

>>15624111
Bro, I'm being nice to you. I could say you're absolutely fucking retarded if you think sleep is a "cure" for hairloss.

Imagine thinking not having enough sleep means you go bald..

Imagine thinking every guy can come off fin and be fine if they just get enough sleep. Imagine thinking all the science is wrong and simply sleep is the answer.

Like holy shit, we even see it in action such as then some tranny takes drugs to suppress their hormones that cause the loss.

I just can't even...

If anyone is serious about hairloss, I highly recommend this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ysGYRSYF6A

What I don't recommend is new age quacks such as people who tell you to have a cold room and get 8 hours of sleep to cure and reverse hairloss lol

>>15624024

Even though almost all that they said applies to 99% of guys anyway. Nobody drinks coffee and alcohol after 11pm unless they are some addict lmao. Yet they're all bald.

>>15624128
>muh science
>doesn't know the science

Then why does estrogen cause hair loss?

is it too young to get a hair transplant as a 24 yo?

>>15624138
Because estrogen is balanced out with progesterone and when you have too much estrogen, you have less progesterone which protects the hair follicles from dht. So it's not the estrogen that directly causes it.

Next question.

And even if what you said was right (it's not) getting 8 hours of sleep in a cold room isn't going to fucking change your hormones.

I can't even believe you are continuing to think the cure to hair loss is simply sleep and you can reverse it form sleeping.

This is really a case of when someone can't admit that they're wrong and just continue and it gets more absurd and stupid.

Nobody in the community is (nor has ever) pressed for "get enough sleep" to cure millions of men of male pattern baldness lmfao. Just wow! You're a fucking idiot.

>>15624146
It depends on a lot of factors. You really just need a consultation first in person at a clinic. Def hop on fin right away.

>>15624155
gonna order a consultation asap

>>15624152

So you're admitting disregulated endocrine profiles contribute to hair loss?

And what hormone has a higher binding affinity than DHT that is upregulated with lots of sleep? Could be progesterone.

>imagine being willing to break your dick to protect your follicles instead of increasing your sleep quantity and quality, which will increase your overall quality of life

Not saying you're going to grow back the hair that you lost by sleeping more, but you're certainly going to slow it down and regrow shrinking follicles by sleeping more. I also prefaced what I was saying that if you're genetically fucked, you're fucked. But keep popping those dick killing pills.

>>15624172
I think it's worth it. Never fall for the "just shave it" meme.

>>15624178
>yap yap yap
>i can't admit i am wrong
>i want to continue a retarded debate for hours

It seems like sleep hasn't raised your self esteem lol..

You need good quality sleep for many things in life, it's vitally important but it's still not going to somehow protect hair follicles that are susceptible to dht damage.

It's just absurd to tell people if they are experiencing hair loss getting 8 hours of sleep a night wills top it. There is nothing ti support that at all whatsoever in any way. Please go and debate this with hair loss professionals. It's a garbage debate.

>imagine being willing to break your dick to protect

The percentage is tiny and you take half a pill at first to see how it goes. Then it's reversible. There are people that say their life got fucked up by a simple over the counter pain killer when it;s likely the issue is with them. Then the other option is a life time of being bald and hating yourself.

>which will increase your overall quality of life

Cool strawman. I'm an advocate for long sleep and no shitty social media before bed. But that wasn't the argument.

You;re saying sleep is a hairloss cure which again is fucking batshit insane. Hair loss is not worse now than it was 200 years ago and life can be much faster paced and stressful now with tv before bed. What you're saying just makes no sense whatsoever.

So if a guy has good sleep his dht will drop and his test? Just what? Less stress will mean less cortisol hormone and stress induced hairloss (Telogen effluvium) is different and usually reversible.

Just please, for the sake of people here, stop posting nonsense. It's just cruel if some guy thinks his hairloss will be cured by getting some extra sleep. Evil.

>>15623867
you have the best hairline in this thread. Your forehead is just big

>mfw no family history of balding but widows peak and high hairline
one time i picked up a girl from a bar and my hair was back after a shower, and she pushed my hair back and said "wow you've got a high hairline"
i've never been memed on before or sense, but it stuck with me

Should I take fin or duta?

>doctor said im thinning and have early mpb
>going to derm for second opinion and to rule out all other causes but not hopeful
>might be on fin within the next month
time to play russian roulette with gyno, brain fog and impotence

Does anybody else take avodart/dutasteride? I’ve been taking it since 2018 and had a horrible shed the first year but the hair that shed grew back and I’ve seen no further hairline receding

Is finasteride known for causing or exacerbating psychological issues? Asking because I've had a lifelong problem with anxiety and severe depression.

>>15624828
>>15625268
You're looking at this the wrong way.

Millions of men take fin. They have for many years. Only a tiny amount report problems from it but in a lot of cases the reasons are other factors. The people that have no issues go on with their life. The same way in which every single medication has had people report problems. You can start on a very low dose.

As for the guy with depression, watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgYczERIkBg

I have a natural curl pattern and idk if the scalp at my crown is because of curling (which happens sometimes) or if I should be concerned about it, and my hairline I think is fine.

>>15623831

You have the same thing as me >>15621187 , Since you're going to the dermatologist next month , ask them what you asked now , if it's salvagable or not. I might go to one as well soon.

>>15619143
thats lil peep's tats

>>15624132

>>15625852
alright, good luck to you anon
I'd say I have it worse since I'm ten years younger so you shouldn't have to worry quite as much, but a dermatologist visit might do you good too

>>15626371
Holy balls autism. Of course sleep is the most important thing. But not to keep and reverse hair growth.

He's a buff lifter and has a healthy lifestyle. Lack of sleep will fuck you mentally and physically but it won't cure baldness or reverse it. Every single day posters here remind me why this board is the lowest of lowest on the IQ scale. It's fucking tragic how stupid some people are.

It's why I revert tot rolling, I need mental stimulation and it's like shooting fish in a fucking barrel on here.

>>15624201
>never fall for the shave meme
i buzzed so i could apply minox to my vertex more easily, in addition to fin of course, but aside from that scenario everything cecil is saying is absolutely based. a lot of you guys freak out over nothing and a lot of you are coping, but the best person to tell you is a fucking doctor who actually knows their shit.

now cecil what are your thoughts on minoxidil on the top/hairline? wasted product entirely or worth trying?

>>15626376
Okay that other anon wasn't right in his "fuck fin" remarks but I think first and foremost if you're getting like 4 hours of sleep a day, you should fix that as soon as possible
If you start using a DHT blocker but aren't doing anything to fix your sleep you're still putting yourself at risk.

>>15626396
Of course you need to sleep or your hormones will be all over the place. Sleep is the most important thing for everything.

First you need to see to that. Then you need to see about using hairloss products.

Sleep in itself is not a hairloss product though and that's not what they mean.

ARGHGHH. Why is this so hard to understand???

It's like saying to build muscle sleep is the most important thing. It is, but it doesn't build muscle alone. You're going to hit the weights for that or else simply sleeping will build nothing. Just like how simply sleeping will not cure hairloss.

The point being the poster is telling people to avoid all hairloss products and if they are balding simply "sleep more" and their baldness will stop which is outright fucking stupid. Period. They are saying the cause of baldness in hundreds of millions of men for thousands of years is lack of sleep and if they only slept an hour more baldness would nor exist.

Just LOL. Not even worth replying to, so more the fool me.

>>15623990
i'd trade my right testicle for genetics like yours. all men in my family are hirsute baldfags. only exception is my maternal granduncle, and i'm certainly not following in his steps.

>>15626410
ok i think that's a fair conclusion :)

>>15619996
It could fuck up your dick

>>15626395
This is going to be somewhat shitty news but... have you tried using 1 of the products fin/minox rather than both at once? Because sometimes people will use minox and if they get regrowth, they will stop the minox and believe that fin will keep the new hair.

That is not always so though as they work in different ways so it;s honestly better to just use fin and see the results and if you get no regrowth, then use minox.

>your thoughts on minoxidil on the top/hairline? wasted product entirely or worth trying?

If you have had no results from fin in that area then absolutely try minox. The generic brand costs next to nothing, there is nothing to lose.

You can even look into "zix" if you have never heard of it. It's something you can make yourself. Now you might think it's some bullshit solution people have made up, but the main ingredients feature in almost all of the other non-minox hairloss topical liquids and they;re usually much more expensive.

https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/my-zix-experience-how-b6-and-zinc-have-saved-my-hair.101629/

>>15626416
I hate people that say they can talk to the dead. Charlatans that sell fake hope. It's twisted and evil to me.

Now hairloss is devastating, some guys commit suicide over it. Think about it 24/7. Then when someone gives people here "hope" they can cure it by simply sleeping a little more, I just do not think it is right. We know why hairloss occurs. It is down to hormones. If you're sleeping 1 hour here and there you will fuck up almost all of your body, that's a given. But if you're not, you need to address the hormones killing your hair follicles.

It just seems cruel to ignore all the science and facts of what we know and push an agenda the cure to not being bald is sleep.

Guys, eat 1 (one) Castanha do Pará (Brazilian nut) a day, it WILL improve your overall hair quality and maybe even grow some back.

>>15626432
Oh look. Here we go again. Brazil nuts stop baldness and regrow hair..

You know how third world people still believe in old wives tales and myths etc. Like their beliefs and cures are really backwards and outdated. I feel maybe this board has a lot of 3rd world posters that post stupid shit. Borat style that gypsy tears protect from aids.

That's why it is so scary science is being called a white persons thing and racism because we're going to go back to the point of eating cow shit cookies cures diseases.

>>15626430
Do you know stuff about skincare as well?
If you do I was wondering what I could do about a mild nasolabial fold on one side of my face. I'm going to ask my derm for tretinoin but is there anything else I can do in addition, or if she doesn't end up prescribing tret/insurance doesn't cover it?

>>15626435
It really helped me, but I also have always had good sleep, plenty of exercise, healthy diet, don't drink alcohol or sodas
I only occasionally smoke weed
And it won't hurt anyone to just eat some healthy fatty nuts

>>15626441
Honestly, most are really changed by a large extent by small surgical procedures. Creams at best tend to slightly change the appearance only. if it;s mild you should be able to purchase for not so much over the counter. Sorry though, it's not really an area I look into much. You're legit just better researching all the choices online rather than asking here.

>>15626443
>It really helped me

Will respect, this is not how it works. An anecdotal evidence story holds no real value.

You have to explain why it works. Why it would grow hair. Why it would stop hair loss. Have studies being conducted and tests done?

>And it won't hurt anyone to just eat some healthy fatty nuts

Brazil nuts have selenium in them and too much of that causes HAIR LOSS. Their diet might already contain plenty of selenium so there is no need for anymore.

And look at it this way, If I said an orange cures hair loss, would you eat an orange every day for the rest of your life now because it can't hurt to eat a healthy fruit? I doubt..

We just need to be scientific about this. It's the only way.

>>15626443
>It really helped me

With respect, this is not how it works. An anecdotal evidence story holds no real value.

You have to explain why it works. Why it would grow hair. Why it would stop hair loss. Have studies being conducted and tests done?

>And it won't hurt anyone to just eat some healthy fatty nuts

Brazil nuts have selenium in them and too much of that causes HAIR LOSS. Their diet might already contain plenty of selenium so there is no need for anymore.

And look at it this way, If I said an orange cures hair loss, would you eat an orange every day for the rest of your life now because it can't hurt to eat a healthy fruit? I doubt..

We just need to be scientific about this. It's the only way.

>>15626452
alright thanks
from what I've researched it looks like tretinoin/retinoids are really the only topical products that can reverse mild skin creases

>>15626488
I'd look on independent skincare boards regarding this, see if people are posting their actual results. I figure docs are just trying to make the most money so talking to real people in the same situation first helps.

It’s over for a few in this thread, but most of you just have a post-pubescent male hairline, widows peak or thin hair. It’s not about the shape of your hairline, it’s about the change over time. You will know if you’re balding because it will start coming out in clumps while showering and you’ll see it in the mirror. I’ve had the same high widows peak since I was 17 and it has barely changed. Not everyone will have a Chico tier NW -1.

My father had worse hairline at my age and he lost it slow and hard. He still looked good well into his 30’s because he grew it out and the bangs hid the recession. Plus he has a good face. I’m still going strong so far. My maternal grandfather had a perfect hairline at 60 if that’s worth anything.
Most men bald. You should have married by the time all falls off. Stop stressing so much and stop taking pills that kill your dick, just live healthy.

31 years old

>>15619361
Yikes

>>15623631
You are hairy. Hairy niggers do better with fin than non hairy niggers

What's the deal with Nizoral? It's supposed to help hair loss, but it made me lose a lot of hair the shower. Was it knocking out my weak hairs so they could be replaced by stronger ones or did I just have a bad reaction?
Also, the bottle says that it's only supposed to be used for a few weeks. How is it that people apparently use it for years?

>>15626422
interesting, i will look into it. currently use shea butter to carry a little argan and rosemary oil as a conditioner and will consider using fin without min for awhile. i have seen regrowth while using both. hard to see because of color and lighting but my vertex isn’t bare skin yet, but it was close 3 months ago when i started. btw appreciate the honest help cecil, i’m just trying to get to 30+ before a transplant, because i know it’s basically over for me

>>15626807
Your frontal recession isn't really that bad, unfortunately, yes, you are a bit of a diffuse thinner in the vertex area.

If you stop minox, you could grow your hair a little longer. If you're keeping your hair buzzed to make applying minox easier, it kinda defeats the purpose in some way, like you;re using it to stop going bald but you keep buzzing to make yourself look as bald as possible. If that makes sense.

If you grew it a little longer, then added hair fibres in the thin areas, you'd only look like someone who was slightly receding. Of course you could have a shorter cut at the bag and leave it slightly longer as you get to the front and the frontal recession would show even less.

Maybe also check out "exosomes hair regeneration"

>>15626807
Your frontal recession isn't really that bad, unfortunately, yes, you are a bit of a diffuse thinner in the vertex area.

If you stop minox, you could grow your hair a little longer. If you're keeping your hair buzzed to make applying minox easier, it kinda defeats the purpose in some way, like you're using it to stop going bald but you keep buzzing to make yourself look as bald as possible. If that makes sense.

If you grew it a little longer, then added hair fibres in the thin areas, you'd only look like someone who was slightly receding. Of course you could have a shorter cut at the back and leave it slightly longer as you get to the front and the frontal recession would show even less.

Maybe also check out "exosomes hair regeneration"

Hell, even if it got so bad, I would even use a hair system. The "just shave it crew" is because misery loves company. Bald guys want you to be as miserable as them.

>>15625793
that honestly looks horrific jfc

>>15626870
thank you for being real with me. i also thought the buzz was counterproductive but my dad recommended it, yet he lost it all just using min and buzzing and he never tried fin. the buzz was twofold because of ease during da ronas. looking back at pictures of me in high school my hairline was pretty much that shape around 18 when i got rid of the bieber bangs but i had no diffuse thinning at that time. i think my few years of vegetarianism after college fucked me because i didn’t do it smart and lost a lot during that time then it slowed dramatically when i went back to a normal healthy diet. should i keep at 1mg of fin or split these pills?

pic was me before buzz btw for everyone else thinking of buzzing. nobody called me bald on here before that lol

>Hop on finasteride after 3 months on minoxidil
>Good for a few weeks then
>Noticeable but light shedding for a week, seemingly stopped now
>Every now and then a slight "heavieness" in balls that subsides after a few minutes
>Seemingly stronger erections and more forceful ejaculations, although reduced sex drive

Been on it for about a month now. after noticing minor diffuse thinning at crown and no recession in temples. Is this normal?

>>15626913
I'd probably start at 1/2 mg and take it from there. You can actually get topical fin, although it's not sold that much and could probably make your own from the pills so there are other options available if one doesn't work.

There are plenty of people with hair loss that you'd never know because of how they style their hair. I'd style it in the way it makes you look the least balding and then hope the fin etc. either keeps that hair or increases it.

You could grow it around an inch and have it just messed up that will cover up most of the recession. It's also a haircut you can buzz yourself on a larger clip guide.

>>15626980
The shedding is normal and a good sign, there shouldn't really be a feeling in the nuts, the sides people relate to the sex side are less sex drive and not as hard erections but a lot is probably fin anxiety and if it is really the case you can lower the dose, stop it, apply it topically and it;s going to reverse things. In fact some have even reported a higher sex drive.

>>15627033
nigga you're bald, why are you giving advice?

>>15620816
you look good man. buzz your facial hair to the same length as your head hair and you'll look a little bit better

>>15627035
>thinks i was born bald
>thinks someone with a full head of hair is more qualified to give advice on balding
>thinks i never researched or learned all about hair after going bald

The real question is, why are you so fucking stupid?

Actually one of the only things I have going for me. I'm even graying at 25 but hey at least I'm not going bald yay :)

>>15619143
Good thing you fucking died before you went bald lul

>>15627043
Yeah but you have that weird non-white hairline in which the sides are almost kissing your eyebrows.

>>15627045
Oh yeah, I definitely already know that. But it at least seems like a good genetic investment for my future. I could move up like 2 norwood levels and my hairline would still basically look normal. Like a less extreme version of picrel

>>15627052
Hahahah that's exactly what I meant, I have seen that guy before. It's funny how a hairline that low can look as bad as a really high one I think. But yes, I suppose you're right

>>15627043
Graying at 25 is normal. You notice grey hairs decades before it becomes noticable from afar.

>>15627068
Can only get better as I age, right? At least I've got something to look forward to lol

>>15627071
Other people notice them IRL and have mentioned them. Maybe it's not as visible in the pic as I thought but it's definitely very noticeable in person. I look very young though so I'm sort of hoping for a male version of pic related

>>15627081
Yeah if you start balding in the middle of your hair, transport those from the front!

If you have black hair, grey is super easy to cover with black hair dye too.

>>15627042
Your research obviously didn't work, fag.

>>15627122
Moron.

I'm 21, barely have money to eat properly, have super oily hair (just like my father did) with a heavy dandruff problem
Also chronic depression and insomnia
Should I just kill myself already?

>>15627116
Well, it's really more auburn if you see it in person. Black dye would look extremely cringey. I'm ready to just embrace the grey

>>15627127
post face and let's see how bad it is

>>15627035
cecil did not fail, he’s just found 10,000 ways that won’t work

>>15627132
>>15627127
sorry about the lighting

>>15627140
Yep, it's over, sorry man.

>>15627142
goddamit

>>15627140
lose weight until you have a visible jaw and then shave that sad hair off and also your beard. I've got the worst depression there is and I'm bald, fully shaved head and beard, but I've been seeing a total qt lately :)) and i'm about ugly as shit. you'll never be a casanova but your situation can always improve if you just let your nuts hang

give it to me straight doc

Just got my finasteride prescription. Wish me luck, lads.

>>15627126
nigga are you a dr?

Why are you giving medical advise and regime suggestions

fuck me - tripfags are cancer

(unless you are a medical dr, then thats cool mang idc)

Just turned 30, hairline has definitely matured

>>15618290
19, my dad is the only person in my family who actually started balding, just worried i might have slight thinning thatll get worse later on, my hair means a lot to me.

>>15620816
you actually have a really nice face man

>>15627282
It's over before it even began

33, still doing OK

>>15625862
no they're mine

>>15627336
I'm a Doctor. Doctor of sex. Yo momma is my number 1 patient.

>>15627565
Maybe, I kinda like that in some ways as opposed to a super straight hairline. They can look odd, even fake even when they're not.

>>15620833
is it really real. I've been debating on whether it's worth. I don't tits, i dont want ball pain or cancer, i dont want depression. Does it actually grow your hair back? Pics for proof

At what point is it too late for Finasteride? 28, took minox for years, stopped for a year or two, and started taking it again last year

So I talked to my primary care doctor today and he won’t prescribe me fin. In fact, he said he wouldn’t prescribe anything. I have an appointment with a derm coming up. What do I need to say to get this guy to give me some help. I’m 27 and at a Norwood 2 approaching Norwood 3. It’s gotten much worse in the last year.

I have low libido, don't masturbate, can't really cum from masturbation, have periods of depression, and am gay
would finasteride screw me up because of these things or does it not matter with all of the 'side effects' that I already have

Hello, effei (20)

ive got the fucking mcdonalds arches imprinted in my hairline and my forehead is kinda big but other than that im ok i guess

>>15623661
what do you use to style your hair?

>>15629759
baxter clay pomade

Give it to me straight doc.

>>15618290
It is over /fa/gs?
Please ignore the hairy ass hands and arm

>>15629898
looks fine but if your age is getting up there(as in, literally anything after your mid 20s) and you're noticing any shedding/thinning/receding, get on fin while you can

>>15630517
I have thick hair and always shed, should I be concerned?

>>15630541
I'm the guy, 23, he responded to and I'm shedding. Both my mom and hairdresser told me it's fine. Then again moms and barbers are known to lie. I'd like to know too and I also have thick dense hair

help me, plox

>>15624152
It’s quite obvious that you get paid to shill fin here you fucking faggot kys bitch

>>15619143
shit bros. was peep balding?

>>15630700
that's not MPB, deffo speak to a derm

>>15631073
he is bald and in his 40s. probably researched hairloss for 20 years.

>>15629898
don't wrinkle your forehead like that

>>15631450

With the amount of shit he was taking, how could he not.

?/10

alright my fellow kings in the thread. How do I pull off the receded hairline widows peak look as a skinny pale dude with glasses

>>15620833
taking pills everyday is too morbid for me

>>15626741
Lots of people say these DHT blocking products have a shedding period before new hair grows

I shaved it off a few months ago, trying to grow it back. But I'm beyond redemption. 29.

Tfw had a receding hairline since I was 4 years old

Look at that alien forehead. Fuck my entire life up bro

I'm 24, what can/should I do?

I'm 21 and I am getting a bit nervous now, my hairline seems to be pretty much the same as always, in pics as a little kid it is nearly identical, but I think it is starting to lose its shape a bit. I always had the thickest hair out of anyone I knew but it started thinning out a bit like 1.5 years ago. I still have really thick hair and it seems to have stopped but I think my hairline is starting to change.
I'm kind of conflicted because I would really like to lose some weight, but I also know that caloric restriction is just begging to have your hair fall out. How much does quality of food and exercise affect it though? I haven't been to the gym in like 2 years and I eat kind of shitty and I'm stressed out of my damn mind, but if I work out again and eat well, could that stop the loss from caloric restriction? I guess, thinking about it now, my hair started thinning when I quit lifting like a madman. Or do I just need to get on fin now while I still have most of my hair?

>>15632402
your hair is fine mate, get healthy, have fun and enjoy your twenties. worry less x

Cant tell. My hairline has definitely changed though. 23.

>>15621455
Kek, I lost it.

>>15633103
lel is it not tho

Noticed thinning sides a few months ago. I'm upset anons. What's the best way to save it? Min and fin? I've heard of things about each but I'm not sure how what to do.

I also heard they can fuck with hormones and give you shitty side effects? Anyone who's on it or has friends who are on either have any thoughts to share. I'd appreciate it

>>15633325
only 50 year olds who drink every day and full of stress have ED side effects

>>15632917
There's nothing to enjoy.

>>15632402
your hairline is definitely receding

>>15633335
A barber of mine mentioned a ~30 yr old client of his having ED problems. Any other anon experiences? 22 here btw

>>15633335
>>15633425
I'm 22 and got ED issues on fin so I stopped

Will I make it?

Am I alright all things considered?

>>15633450
Looks pretty Jewish to me

>>15633453
Half spic

Is it safe to assume that there is more to hairloss than "its just genetics bro"? im 24 and my hair is starting to go real bad after years of eating horribly, never getting enough calories, horrible sleeping habits due to an overnight job, and recently the most thinning ive seen was after the most stressful summer of my life (still stressed/depressed)

it kills me to know i could have maybe preserved my hair if i just maintained a healthy lifestyle throughout my early 20s..

>>15624201
>Hair loss is not worse now than it was 200 years ago
Source. Seems like people get it younger these days. Not that guy btw

With flash, shortly after haircut. Is this MPB or something else. Worth going to derm?

>>15628772
It's too late when the hair you have isn't worth preserving, it preserves what you have (for decades or forever, the studies aren't fully conclusive as the drug has only been available 30 years). Minox is an awful preservative, it can only be used effectively in conjunction with fin.

>>15631655
Minox and fin could bring you back, I see a lot of miniaturesed hairs all over your scalp.

>>15633526
MPB is effectively all genetics, it cannot really be noticabley sped up or slowed down outside of pharmaceuticals.

>>15633739
What does 'seems' mean anon?

>turning 30 this year
meh i had a good run

M 24

>>15635109
a natural mohawk in the making, it's amazing

>>15633526
no, it's all genetics. my uncle recently died after 15+ years of alcoholism, no exercise, a terrible diet (R.I.P).
he died with a full head of hair, while i'm posting in this thread at 24.

>>15634790
You probably won't lose it anytime soon desu.

>>15633438
Looks fine to me, how old are you?

This is what I'm working with.

>>15636924
More of a topdown pic

>>15636924
>>15636929
Age?
Nah it looks fine

>>15618290
ahahaha

>>15636955
I'm 22. I'll see if it recedes any further and then maybe I'll do something about it.

How fucked am I? 26 y/o here