/fa/ - Fashion

23 Invictas...
and a Fossil

New watch who dis

>>15542846

lmao, /fa/ are poorfags

>>15542836
>when the box is more valuable than the watches

>>15542871
>Yes I'd like to purchase one of your fine swiss watches today.
>Which model do I want? Can I have the fuck ugliest?
>No Yachtmaster II's in stock you say? Alright, I suppose I'll settle for the second fuck ugliest.
>No I'm not Italian, why do you ask?

>>15542836
jeez, that's a lot of shitters

>>15542873
but you can't put a price on sentimental value.

First for marathon. Real military watches, snowflakes need not apply

Should I get the best Bond watch?

>>15542884
poor strap, lol

>BEAMS and Citizen have reunited for a duo of retro timepieces. Offered in black and silver, the Ana-Digi returns in two circular variations.
>Complete with black polyurethane straps and monochrome faces, the BEAMS-exclusive Round Face Ana-Digi Temp watches are graced by matte metal cases and extra functionality. This includes the analog-digital displays, thermometers, chronographs and alarms, all located on one crowded face. Convex glass and enlarged characters yield heightened visibility, regardless of model — black or silver.
>Quartz, 50 WR, $300

>>15542887
Only if you buy the much rarer olive Pvd model

>>15542884
That's a wrist that had never been in the military or run a marathon.

>>15542892

Posted just before the thread ended, just want some more opinions before i pull the trigger. Thanks for the dude tha answered
Poorfag here, don't know shit about watches, but i've been thinking in buying one to use everyday.
Found this citizen promaster 3560 for like 50 usd, is this alright?

>>15542900
?the 1963 comes in 38,40,and 42mm versions from several manufacturers, official and grey. HKED has the 38 and 42 iirc. Get the acrylic one its nicer

>>15542659
like the other anon said, ETA is a movement maker. Many brands either do not have their own movements or choose to use ETA for the sake of convenience/ keeping costs down. (it costs millions to develop your own calibre). Other noted movement providers that sell their movements for other brands to use are Sellita (very similar to ETA and some parts are interchangeable), Seagull, Seiko (many microbrands use the seiko NH35/36)

>>15542911
yea thats a pretty good price. 50 usd sounds about right. Citizen has a lot of SKUs so demand is diluted. Make sure it runs and all that. You might have to change the battery due to the age.

>>15542924
The obsession with in house movements is a recent thing. No one gave a shit about movement sharing in the past.

IIRC Rolex Daytonas used to have zenith el primero movements for a while

>>15542937
ya but its a good gauge for the price. ETA2842 for example costs like $250-$300 per pc, so whatever else remaining is the cost of the rest of the watch + brand premium.

columbia meets switzerland

>>15542954
Jumping from the last thread, here's a movement shot for the DiaStar.

>>15542862
Stop posting your pictures upside down

>>15542884
I too enjoy wearing my watch around my ankle.

>Following the drop of its Pac-Man edition, Timex is releasing its next T80 in celebration of Pride following Pride Month in June. For the exclusive model, the watch brand has included rainbow accents in its design, reflecting the rainbow Pride flag and symbolizing the movement.
>Pride is the promotion of equality, dignity, self-affirmation and visibility of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, intersex and asexual (LGBTQIA+) people within the global community. The major aim of Pride movements is to remove the social stigma and shame surrounding those who identify as LGBTQIA+. Pride events usually take place on dates which commemorate a key event in that country’s LGBTQIA+ history, as well as during Pride Month.

Good morning, / wt/.

>>15542980
Gay

>>15542937
Fuck off, if you don't even have in-house movements I'm not even gonna consider paying your bullshit mountain jew tax.
>P R E S T I G E
>L E G A C Y
>C R A F T M A N S H I P
Cocksuckers.

>>15542996
Seikos are as in house as it gets. Pretty sure they even grow their own jewels

>>15542951

>dads birthday in a couple weeks
>cant decide on a watch for him
i'm thinking american vintage but cant decide, FUCK

>>15543024
well whats ur budget

>>15543007
Yeah, what's that got to do with anything I said?

>>15543025
id be willing to spend up to 3k.

LUME

>>15542937
>No one gave a shit about movement sharing in the past.
We don't live in the past, though. You pay a premium these days and expect them to put in the effort and r&d of producing their own movements, and not a modified ETA. I don't really have a problem with it if they use other high quality movements from respectable brands for their entry models. Like VC using Cartier for example.
It's luxury products so you kind of have to make these ridiculous rationalizations.

"A great movement as manufactured by Zenith, it was the industry’s only self-winding chronograph movement that met Rolex’s high quality standards. Even so, Rolex extensively modified the caliber to its own specification, including:
- A new escapement with a much larger, freely sprung balance and balance spring with Breguet overcoil - a preferred, and more costly configuration for Rolex that leads to higher accuracy.
- A reduction in the balance's oscillation rate from a speedy 36,000 beats per hour to a more relaxed 28,800 beats per houre - requiring less frequent service.
- Elimination of the date function.
Retaining just 50% of the Zenith caliber 400's parts, the final result was the Rolex caliber 4030."

>>15543040
Lume?

>>15542937
The in house movements obsession is pure autism and marketing, it is mostly not a big improvement and is more about muh craftsmanship. In the past people only cared if the movement was reliable, now you can have a reliable movement but if it's not in house the watch automatically is seen as an inferior watch.

>A Rolex sub in 1970 cost $1,300 (adjusted for inflation)
Fuck you grandpa.

/fa/ af

>>15543058
Daytonas cost around that when they first came out too

Then Paul Newman made it famous

>>15542980
Sasuga mutt company.

Depends what you get from the in-house movement surely.
Longer power reserve, anti-magnetism (might be an irrelevant meme), complications etc.
If it doesn’t add anything you can’t get from the standard 2824, SW200, NH35 etc then it’s pointless and worse than just going the ETA way

>>15543038
a couple of weeks is tough for shipping

regarding watches, RGM has some around the 3-4k mark but its quite limited. You could get a Hamilton jazzmaster or something....ex american brand. Or an Oris big crown pointer date. Such an effay vintage look with the cathedral hands and pointer date ,but without being too stuffy, big readable numbers for aging boomer eyes and a good manly sized crown. There are many colourways and available in steel/bronze around 2000$

if you want actual vintage like Benrus, Gruen, Elgin etc you would have to do your homework.. cant help you there im not an expert on those. And with vintage there are additional hassles inc servicing

>>15543071
>anti-magnetism
Someone said his speedmaster got magnetized because he put it next to his phone in the pocket

There are probably more magnetic sources nowadays compared to the 1950s

>>15543046
>Zenith
Probably one of the most underrated brands out there. Wish the Inventor has a regular dial though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YRLzhStoWg

>>15543058
Son just get outside and be yourself and walk into a store and tell them to give you a job and buy a house and buy a luxury watch with your first paycheck what's so hard about it that's what I did like a real man I suffered but was successful in the end I even got to rightfully retire after 20 years of work at 40 years old you are too pampered son.

>>15543086
>tfw my father retired at 49
>tfw he will be worth more than I ever will
>tfw probably cant even be a home owner
>tfw probably wont retire untill age 70
>tfw my generation is the first net payer instead of net receiver to my government

AND I CANT EVEN ENJOY A CHEAP ROLEX

>>15543013
Nice

Quick, give me options for sub €100 analog quartz or manual mech field/adventure watches that are not frying pans.
No bulky autos please. Pic unrelated.

>>15543101
Remember that next time you feel like wearing a mask in public.

>>15543074
thanks m8

>>15543118
Find yourself a classic styled field watch in the 39'ish mm range.

Anon, do you know what is the lug-to-lug for SNDV30P1? wishing the lug to lug is a hair smaller. Wears just a lil' bit big.

It's a 37 mm case diameter and 34 is kinda diminutive? 35 mm feels the best desu.

>>15543128
I would like this Orient but it's fucking automatic. Why do they do this? For what purpose?

>>15543118
>sub $100
lorus lumbrites, those bertucci watches, or that 36mm casio edifice. Manual wise a 420 case vostok. (a diver but more durable than any mechanicals at this price). You can also get seiko snks but they are not suitable or swimming or any real rough activity.

Thoughts on Orient?

>>15543135
the newest version of that watch (theres 3) is handwind and hackable
>>15543140
biggest value in big brand mechanicals besides vostok

>>15543118
I got you senpai
39mm
$99 quartz sapphire, 200m water resistant, screw down crown a few different dial options
https://sanmartinwatches.com/wp/product/sn030-g-sy/

>>15542887
Yes.

>>15543135
Because automatics are popular. Per other anon, I believe they make a hand-winding mechanical version.

>>15543040

>>15543118
Citizen BM8180.

>>15543071
I argued about that on a previous thread and I got called poorfag. It's ok that some in house movements have insane and amazing complications for a mechanical watch, they are mechanically superior, but a mere 3 hand movement with maybe day or date will hardly be exponentially better than a mass produced reliable and time tested movement, not to mention servicing costs and troubles.
>>15543077
>Someone said his speedmaster got magnetized because he put it next to his phone in the pocket
Maybe, my father fucked up a couple of credit cards by putting them on the pocket along his phone, magnet from the speaker probably fucked them.

>>15543146
That's a pilot...
>>15543139
I don't want no bulky diver shit on my wrist.
>>15543145
>>15543151
It's a fucking field watch, it should be as thin as possible while being sturdy, using an automatic movement makes no sense whatsoever.
Limiting the pieces also makes it less prone to malfunctioning.
>>15543171
That is very nice, I was looking at it but day and date? Really? It looks like shit.

>>15543201
you sound like a huge whiny cunt. Be glad people are nice enough to throw related suggestions as there is very limited fieldwatch options under $100.

>>15543204
I'm sorry I want to find a watch that I enjoy, does that offend you?

>>15543210
>want to find
you are finding jack shit, merely asking people for suggestions. Dont act all snotty and selective at such a budget price when others are taking time and effort to help

>>15543201
>That's a pilot...
>39mm
>small seconds
>pilot
Not really a pilot watch.

>>15543218
Either you know it already or don't, the effort is to type it. I am searching by myself as we speak, you know.

>>15543228
>zero thanks or appreciation
>ask for suggestions but full of criticism and say they are all shit
>being this entitled in wanting to be spoonfed
I intentionally said 420 case vostoks as they are the smallest vostoks bar vostok cadet or ladies. I suggested it as a possible recommendation over their komandirskie (which are their field watches) as it has better WR and lume. There is no better choice for a cheap beater mechanical.
There is nothing wrong with that quartz san martin pilot that the other anon suggested. It may not be a traditional field watch but it fulfils field watch criteria (big readable numerals, good lume) while having 200wr as well.

>>15543255
Anon, you think I don't know about vostok? I read the guide, again, just now so I already new about the citizen solar and I see that san martin posted all the time.
I made it clear in my first post that I was interested in a manual and not in an auto, yet you posted anyway to satisfy YOUR need, not mine. Like the people doing "charity" in africa. And you think I should thank you? Haha.

Newest addition, finally retired my Damasko from daily wear at work

>>15543201
Maybe you should stop hormonally whining. I've got some further suggestions but at this point would rather see you suffer. What a cunt.

>>15543271
then find your own damned watches if you are so capable. What a homo. Typical entitled zoomer

>>15543271
There are very few manual wind watches under $100, the only ones i even am aware of are some classic model chinese watches and some 44mm pilots watches from parnis. You should probably just stop being poor and buy a Hamilton hand winding field watch from a grey market retailer since that's apparently the exact watch you want.

>>15543284
The only bitch here is you. Well and that other guy too but you get the point.
>>15543292
You are the entitled one, Greta.
>here's a watch that doesn't respect your indications but who cares I like it
>not what I was looking for
>REEEEE HOW DARE YOU

>>15543301
Enjoy dying alone and angry you insufferable cunt.

>>15543311
Decent loo,ing watch overall but would be exponentially better without lume and the magnifier.

>>15543301
just because people give suggestions to XYZ watch does not mean they personally like those watches.

And you type like a woman.

I know a watch under $150 that will fufill all your points but like the other anon said Im not going to help you.

>>15543307
Ah, yes, the ad hominem, the resort of those that put feelings above reason.
>>15543326
Okay, Greta.

Discuss

https://youtu.be/QjAnQjlWQ3M

>>15543295
That was actually a contender for my first watch back then.

>>15543118
You can get one of the cheap bertucci field watches, 36 mm quartz stainless no date
https://www.amazon.com/Bertucci-10112-Durable-Stainless-Steel/dp/B003BQ5EII

>>15543340
dont bother. I already told him lorus/bertucci but he wants a H A N D W I N D ONLY and everything else isnt good enough

>>15543101
that might change pretty soon if people start getting violent with politicians

>>15543340
Yeah, these look fine but damn they're expensive for quartzs.
>>15543346
Not handwind, manual, it's different.

>>15543319
and maybe a leather strap

>>15543118
why?

You are a fucking retard

>>15543354
Because I want a reliable beater (for real) that isn't bulky, with good lume and with a clean dial. Analog.

>>15543349
>Not handwind, manual, it's different.
what did you think manual meant?
manual = handwind
manual does not mean automatic. Manual is exactly what the word means, it you have to manually wind the watch.

>>15543347
Imagine the satisfaction of wearing a luxury watch that you took off the bloody corpse of someone richer than you. Like a proper war trophy

>>15543362
You can handwind automatics, you know.

>>15543118
buy a hodinkee travel clock and carry it in your purse faggot

>>15543366
that is not the usage of the term.
When people say handwind, they exclusively mean manually wound watches. It does not matter that you can shake an auto or whatever.

why do you think some automatics also list "handwinding and hacking?" it is to say they can be wound via the crown and not just a plain automatic.

>>15543373
I already have it, who do you think I am?
>>15543376
>why do you think some automatics also list "handwinding and hacking?" it is to say they can be wound via the crown and not just a plain automatic.
Exactly?
A manual is called a manual (handwinding) watch, not "handwind".

>>15542951
>columbia
>u
kill yourself

>>15543393
>A manual is called a manual (handwinding) watch, not "handwind"
>handwinding is not handwind

what am I even reading? handwinding IS handwind. Are you an ESL student? handwind does not refer to automatics nor the action of shaking them

>>15543393
>He's not only insufferable but also mentally retarded

>>15543417
>is called
>handwinding is not handwind
Yep, he's retarded.
>handwind does not refer to automatics nor the action of shaking them
Never have I stated the opposite.
>Are you an ESL student?
Asks they guy incapable of nderstanding a simple sentence in his own language.
>>15543429
Okay, Greta.

Can’t believe there’s someone even more annoying than igor here now

>>15543437
Anon's mad about never having his penis touched by a woman.

>>15543178
One of the pitfalls of buying holy trinity watches is the servicing cost

They'll come and bite you in the ass

>>15543393
automatic = mainspring is wound automatically using the rotor
manual = mainspring is wound manually by turning the crown by hand. Aka a handwinding watch. Handwinding and handwind is the exact same word and pretty much used interchangeably (eg "Hey can I handwind this watch?")

not all automatics are handwind and not all handwinds are automatic, the terms are 100% exclusive and if a movement can do both it is listed.

fuck you are retarded. Learn what watch terms mean

>>15543434
>Asks they guy
>nderstanding

>>15543437
and possibly the most downright whiny person I have seen on /wt/

This guy slaps your girls ass in public and says

"heh I bet you are tired of girly wrist men, why dont you have a REAL man for once"

what do you do?

>>15543455
If you can afford a $30k watch then paying another $500-$1k every 5 years is not going to be a problem.

>>15543464
Watch with a smile as my wife punts his balls into his throat.

>>15543482
implying your wife wouldnt drop her soaking panties immediately and dump your baby wristed ass.

Ill block any wimp attempt to hurt me with my watch, another awsome perk of having a shield sized watch

>>15542965
it's not on purpose, wherever i open them they are turned right, and then when i post them here (just some, not all) the turn out upside down...

>>15543464
>"I-i have a thick wrist!!"
>end of the strap is sticking out like a dog's dick

roll my eyes, turn 360 degrees and walk away with my girl(boy)

>>15543507
4chan strips the photo's metadata so your IRL location is erased (along with the orientation). You can prevent this by cropping the photo before posting.

>>15543522
checked and thanx for the tip!

>>15543401
it's the beans, you utterly fucktard

>>15543437
>now
I was here before you.
>>15543447
Says the simp.
>>15543463
>not all automatics are handwind and not all handwinds are automatic, the terms are 100% exclusive and if a movement can do both it is listed.
Exatly, you dumb motherfucker. If you say handwind instead of manual you only generate confusion because automatics can handwind too.

>>15543481
>paying another $500-$1k every 5 years
why even service if the watch is running fine. There are $100 seiko5s and vostoks still working after 10,15 years. This (((you must service your watch every X years))) shit is just another way to milk money as if its a netflix subscription

>>15543534
literally nobody is confused except you. When people say handwind they 110% mean manual watches.

>>15543536
They will run, there are Rolex watches that have run for over 50 years, but they may not be keeping the usual +/- 2spd accuracy anymore. Its up to the owner if they actually want to follow to brands recommended policy.

>>15543534
>automatics can handwind too.

this is not true at all. Older seiko5s and O. tristars are examples of common automatics that cannot handwind.

>>15543545
Oh really?
https://www.ebay.it/itm/Reloj-Automatico-Hombre-Orient-Defender-RA-AK0403N-Hand-winding-correa-tela/303601729727?hash=item46b012c0bf:g:vJ4AAOSwkYhe9Hy-
>hand-winding
>automatic movement
>>15543563
I never claimed all autos can.

>>15543494
Is this a Diesel ripoff or did Diesel ripoff Oulm?

>>15543101

We’re going to die of cancer on Mars bro. We’ll leave this planet to the boomers.

>>15543566
are you like actually retarded?
That is the 3rd version of the Orient defender, which has a updated movement that added handwinding and hacking. Which is exactly why it is listed on that ebay listing. The 1st 2 versions of the Orient defender cannot handwind at all.

>>15543563
>automatics can handwind too
>can
Meaning they can, but not neccessarilly have to.
how hard can it be?

>>15543052

>That one retard who doesn’t know how mechanical movements work and continues to pretend there is no difference between them in any way

It’s this guy: >>15543052

>>15543566
ya??
that watch (defender II) is a manual AND automatic.
how hard is it to get?

in contrast the 1st orient defender is not a manual.
>.it
>italian whiny retard confused about english

>>15543587
Different movements but achieving the same thing: telling the time.

>>15542941
>ya but its a good gauge for the price. ETA2842 for example costs like $250-$300 per pc
it's actually a good gauge of the price in so far as you have to remember that consumer prices for singular movements, if you can get them, are not representative of the wholesale bulk price that most of the watchcase+dial manufacturers that we call "watch brands" pay for these things.
some may be just buying an ebauche rather than a fully functional movement
either way, there's no way they're paying such high prices for a movement
the more you buy the cheaper it is
so take that retail price you'd buy a movement for and divide the shit out of it
puts things even more in perspective really

>>15543621
so this glow in the dark $3,250 USA microshitter featuring an ETA valjoux 7750 movement is a bad buy? it has a custom rotor

Name a more beautiful watch

>>15543682

Here

>>15543591
>that watch (defender II) is a manual AND automatic.
Full retard.

>>15543682
>>15543686
Terrible. Not even the best moon phases.

>>15543670
It's "swiss made" which means 99% of the parts are made in china and then it's assembled in switzerland. It's not the biggest rip-off ever if you really love it. it has a decent movement. It's a watch you could buy if you love i guess, most /wt/ posters would call it hideous garbage.

>>15543692
i have taught kids smarter than you
here is a venn diagram so (You) dont ever get confused again

>>15543670

4 different types of hands? really?

>>15543720

Fuck it’s actually 5 types. Who designed that watch?

>>15543716
No, you only refer to watches that are manual-only as manuals, even if they hand-wind.
You've dug a pretty deep hole for yourself, friend.

>>15543728
>>15543707

it is designed in Austin, Texas and made in Switzerland. It has a custom skeletonized rotor and is hydrodipped in glow in the dark paint

https://tockr.com/products/hydro-dipped

>>15543682

>>15543736
this.

the only moment you will see the watch advertised as MANUAL (WIND), is when the watch is manually wound. Even if a watch has automatic and manual winding you dont call it a manual

>>15543736
>still cannot understand even when i made a diagram in mspaint
you can use it either way you wish. You can keep it running, even if it sitting still in a drawer, by only manually handwinding it every 2 days. Handwind is manual. Literally nobody is confused except you.
>>15543747
>samefagging

>>15543753
I'm not confused, you should learn to read your own language.
>you can use it either way you wish.
Ah yes, that's what language is for, to use words interchangeably and make communication less efficent.

>>15543747
Both conditions are true, though.

its only advertised that way because pure manual is uncommon nowadays. Advertisement lingo is stupid anyway. You will regularly see unisex watches marketed as "ladies" watches just because they are smaller. Everything should be ignored and just scroll down to the specs sheet.

>>15543766
>I am not confused
>spends half the thread arguing with several different anons

>>15543753
>>samefagging
resorting to buzzwords

you dont deserve me screenshotting as proof because you and the other guy are both autists for arguing on a mongolian basket weaving forum

does polywatch work for mineral?
some sites say acrylic only

>>15543782
No. It's for acrylic only.

>>15543780
>not even creative enough to change the overused "mongolian basket weaving" to something else
low effort post

>>15543782
there is polywatch plastic polish. And polywatch glass polish. The latter works on mineral. The former doesnt.

in reality just buy diamond paste for $1 off AE and DIY.

>>15543740
Most watches have custom rotors, they cost a few dollars to make and add very little cost to the watch, it's not really a feature worth getting excited about. Like I said if you like the watch buy it. Personality i think it's ugly but you can spend way more money on way more shit watches if you really want to.

>>15543795
>thinking just posting samefagging is not low effort

>>15543810
effort is subjective
the truth depends on perspective
a post can be both low effort and high effort at the exact same time.

>>15543670
Seems to be a bit expensive, basic ETA with just premium finish and a cool rotor, for a bit more you have the Sinn 140 which is similar to that watch but everything about it is better except it does not have funny colours or day, the movement is modified eta 7750 to work as the old lemania, has some gas inside to keep the watch dry, special anti scratch coating,antireflective coat on glass,On top of that, the watch is considered as a space watch since previous models have been on the space, not sure about this model.

>>15543845
That watch is just as ugly if not more ugly than the one he is looking at

>>15543740
Hideous and stupid. Your warranty is too long, that paint won’t last two years if worn daily.

>>15543845
>has some gas inside to keep the watch dry, special anti scratch coating
but then how will the watch acquire PATINA and WABI SABI?

>>15543864
this dial almost makes me puke

worst patina I have ever seen

I like the galaxy patina some dials develop but this is too far

>>15543874
you kidding?

that is extremely beautiful patina!

It looks like river stones in dusklight or a mossy glade in a dim enchanted forest.

pearls before swine, I say. Such a example is highly desirable,

>>15543849
It's a toolwatch, no need to be ugly, it must be efficient, it's a pilot watch, designers were not thinking about aesthetics, they went for the utilitarian route, other chronos are similar shaped like this, and remember, this is not a new design, the original watch was from around 1985.

>>15543864
>dried cum patina

To put this to rest, it's a matter of language regarding automatic vs manual winding. Saying something is "a" manual and "an" automatic is incorrect. Saying it is automatic "with" manual winding is OK. Quotes for emphasis.

>>15543895
I don’t think you’ve slept even one night outside of a city

>>15543845
>german "design"

>>15543920
At least this guy is honest.

>>15543864
another example of extremely beautiful patina
this is a vintage Longines

it reminds me of weathered terracotta brick in a medieval village, the glow of a fireplace through old dusty windows, the twinkling of sunset on venetian waters. Truly magnifique

>>15543945
thanks for the laugh hahah, quality post

>>15543945
>>15543864

Is this a clone of the black bay case?

What are the differences between the seiko 5216 and 5206 movements ?

>>15543984
>>15544019
i don't appreciate the parody

>>15544036
https://www.watch-wiki.net/index.php?title=Seiko_5200
>A modest upgrade came a year later with the 5216, which added a spring-loaded pawl to eliminate the risk of breakage if the date was changed around midnight.

>>15543984
reminded me of this watch, at first I thought it was shome photoshop, but surprised to see a brand focused on fauxtina.

>>15544038
>taking watches this seriously
>getting his jimmies rustled by a lowbrow shitpost shitter
its actually a funny watch and takes a swipe at pearl clutching purists

>>15544048
>penis indices
ha

>P A T I N A
>T R O P I C A L
>S O U L

Evening /wt/

>>15544048
kek
Based Italian engineering.

How do I find and purchase estate sale wristwatches?

>>15544082
Looks like shit. Would rather just buy a fake one and paint the lume orangey yellow.

>>15544206
...
Go to estate sales?

>>15544224
do I just go to my local one even though anyone in the entire country can look at the viewing online and out bid you?

Average quartz watches are nowhere near as some people like to pretend.

I good quality and well adjusted mechanical can nearly keep up and sometimes surpass it in accuracy these days.

>>15544236
Near as what?

>>15544229
What estate sales are you going to? I've never seen one where there's bidding online. They've always just been everything in the house with price tags on everything

>>15544240

Accurate

>>15544236
Only if the person wearing it is mostly sedentary

>>15544039
Thanks anon guess I should have RTFM

>>15544229
How is that any different from bidding on Ebay? You never know with auctions, sometimes you get outbid and sometimes you get a steal. The chase is part of the fun.

>>15544273
All ebay auctions are fraud, almost every seller has a second account (or several) they run through a proxy to bid up their auctions.

found this inside the locked drawer of an old desk today

>>15544351
I wish I ever won something in my whole life

so this is what it feels like to buy a rolex
price is in AUD btw

>>15544655
Congrats anon

How safe is it to buy luxury watches online and have them delivered by mail? Any horror stories of customers getting the old switcheroo with a replica?

>>15544666
If you are really worried about it use a website like chrono24 that lets you put the money in escrow, find a trusted local guy who can look at it and get the seller to agree that the sale is conditional on the watch checking out, most of the dealer type sellers will be fine with this and at worst you will be out shipping and whatever fee the guy charged to look at the watch for you.

My grandfather gave me this watch the other day. Belonged to my great great grandfather and I am trying to collect as much info on the watch as I can. Not sure where my grandpa's grandpa got it or when, but the calligraphy on the front are his initials. A weave of my great great grandmother's hair takes the place of a chain.

Got a bunch more detailed photos here:
https://imgur.com/gallery/y5AmQMj

>>15542871
Is daddy paying your way through college?

>>15542836
This is the cheapest in the range of these relatively cheap watches but I like it more than the others. Also does anyone think a leather strap is less formal than a metal bracelet?

Morning /wt/

Thoughts on this?

>>15544666
Chrono24 or one of the other major online dealers with secure / escrow transactions should be fine. Personally I'd avoid Ebay for vintage.

>>15544714
>Also does anyone think a leather strap is less formal than a metal bracelet?
No, leather is the most formal, metal bracelets are for sports watches.

>>15544723
Literally nig

>>15543740
it's design in whogives a fuck (I doubt it was designed in texas, you can outsource design to china too) and made in china
>>15543670
>$3250
for a microbrand shitter
i don't think i'd recommend for anyone to throw that amount into such a thing
if you reeeeealy fucking like it and can't live without the silly novelty of a splotchy glow in the dark case that looks like it fell out of a 90's children's cereal box, then go ahead
if it was perhaps $1000 max maybe, and even that is stretching it to the absolute furthest limit, but 3?
lmao

>my budget
$300-$400 usd
>type
dress
>features
looks nice, recognizable brand

suggest anything for me?

>"Suggest a watch for me."
<$400
sapphire please, I'm going to scratch thing thing no matter what the crystal is made of
pilot
any movement that'll keep me within a minute a day
swimming waterproof
date would be nice
I love a sterile dial but don't need one
something that takes an 18mm strap would prefect, but I'll find the strap for me
33 to 39mm, I like a small watch

>>15544082
>i want my watch EXTRA rusty

>>15544835
a seiko presage is the only dress watch in that price range I'd recognize in the wild

>>15544841
I shill this thing way too much but the san martin pilots watch does it. Sapphire, 200m waterproof with screw down crown, available with sterile dial, 39mm decent reliable seiko nh-35 movement, several dials available. $150
https://sanmartinwatches.com/wp/product/sn030-g/

>>15544854
got any non dress watch reccomendations? that looks cool though

>>15544860
Look at the Hamilton stuff on a grey market retailer like jomashop, lots of stuff in that range like a bunch of field watches

>>15544855
I should note you should probably plan on spending another $50 on a nice leather strap because the one it comes with looks pretty cheap but it also comes with a serviceable nato.

>>15544870
thanks a lot! ill check around, i might also just save up some money for a $1000 range, im just making a bit of money now and me and my father are immigrants so we like recognizable brand name stuff ill take your brands into consideration

>>15544875
>my father are immigrants so we like recognizable brand name stuff
Based, take your time, lots of cool watches out there.

>>15544875
Dude there's no "recognizable brand" below Rolex. Maybe TAG Heuer as the recognizable mall watch brand, that's about it.

>>15544855
got any feelings about
>Time Module NH35/PT5000/SW200
nh35 sounds fine to me for how much cheaper it is

>>15544882
rolex and casio are the only watch brands anyone knows

>>15544889
The nh-35 is fine, the sw200 is swiss, the same design as one of the eta movements made buy a company that used to manufacturer movements for eta, the pt5000 is a chinese clone of the sw200. Any of them are fine, i would probably go with the nh 35 since they are easy and cheap enough to get you can just replace the movement with a brand new one in a decade when it's time for a service.

>>15543013
What are your wrist measurements? I sometimes um and err over Neptunes.

>>15544943
not him but Neptunes have a tiny lug to lug length because of the integrated bracelet i think it's 40mm or 41mm. Most people can probably get away with them.

Sold for 12.6k usd

>>15545009
Why?

Appreciate this

>>15542836

>box of 24 shitters

based

>>15544036
>>15544039
That sounds like a bullshit reason desu, one of the many that get passed around without question these days. The real difference is that 5206 has instant date change, 5216 gradual. The reason might be slight cost cutting or the fact that an instant change mechanism might cause more wear and takes more power to drive. As for the problem with changing the date during the turn-over period, with an instant change the turn-over is, well, instant and the mechanism engages with the date wheel only on that moment, so as far as I know, you need to be really unlucky to fuck it up. I bet the new 5216 pawl is only needed because they changed it to gradual date change.

>>15545040
the right patina on the right watch is valuable

that 1 is 2gunky4me though

>>15542980
>Got both Gold and Silver versions of this watch Last month
Oof, didn't realise it was a fag company. They both do look really good though, Not sure if I should return them or not..

>>15544698
>great great grandfather's watch
>great great grandmother's hair

that is really cool. 110% priceless. you could have it restored and glass fitted in. That is a real heirloom.

>>15545141
you sound like a loser

>>15545141
t. Closet homosexual

>>15544236
bullshit, i pulled out some no name french digital quartz i was wearing in middle school, after 8 years it was 5 minutes too fast.

no mechanical can beat that

>>15545210
>+300s/d

do you think mechanicals just spontaneously combust? sometimes they break randomly, but often its a slow decline or sluggishness as the oils dry up. I have a at least 30 year old vostok and it runs approx +20-30s/d. I'm sure I can regulate it tighter but I have not done so yet.

>>15545222
Are you struggling with the English language? He synced it eight years ago and it was 5 minutes ahead when he checked it, that works out to +3s PER MONTH.

>>15545239
it doesnt matter
timekeeping is secondary
enjoyment is #1
i'll keep my soullful mechanicals tyvm

>>15544841
That's a Vostok Amphibia 420xxx, man. 18mm strap, 39mm diameter, screw-down crown for waterproofing, nice acrylic crystal so that when you scratch it you can polish it back up. Main downsides is that it'll look counterculture as fuck because the design is literally from the sixties, and people will ask you to sell them weed.

Got my springbar kit and the new strap is now on the Casio

>>15545271
Looks really nice, what's the diameter?

>>15545278
case is 40mm, lug is 20mm

>>15545161
Naa I'm based, all fags are literally (and genetically) losers.
>>15545166
>If you hate X you are actually X all along
You need to be 18 to post here, kiddo.

>Day 58 of waiting for my Neptune to arrive (in the country, arriving Soon™)

>>15545319
hasnt it been like 5 days since it reached NZ?

postal is that slow huh

>>15545320
SOON™

>>15544698
>grandma hair as chain
That's cool but at the same time also both gross and morbid, considering she's been dead for what, 100 years now?
I personally would absolutely keep it but never wear it with the hair chain.

>>15544714
>Also does anyone think a leather strap is less formal than a metal bracelet?
No way. Do you also think dress shoes are more casual than sneakers?

>>15545330
I agree, if you're planning on using the watch, then detach the chain and store it in a safe place. It would be an absolute bummer if that were to get damaged.

>>15544835
Vintage Zenith or Omega, used Nomos for a bit more more, maybe Junghans too. Oh and Hamilton.
If you want a pure dress watch that you ONLY use at work or on a date and never on mory sporty occasions because you either already have another one for that or you plan to get a second watch, I would go with a vintage Zenith/Omega, or used Nomos at most if you're into that kind of design.
Don't make the mistake of buying 3 watches that are interchangeable, get watches for different occasions. And for the love of good don't fucking buy HUEG dress watches that hang on your wrist like a pan, the purpose of a dress watch is to be elegant and as understated as possible.

>>15544882
>basically telling someone new to buy Tag HUEHUE
Kill yourself.

>>15545319
>>15545325
That sucks

Good morning, /wt/.

>>15545319
Almost there

>>15545448
Mornin

>>15545448

>>15543864
>>15543945
>>15544082
Ahhh, I see we're posting the "piss and shit" dial watches.
>that'll be 30k goy

>>15545483
Got u famborghini.

>>15545483
i wonder how much ben clymer charges to put up an article hodinkee about "piss and shit" dial watches to drive up the auction price. i figure the hodinkee tax can add at least 5k to the price of a watch

>>15545483
>>15544082
>>15543864
How does one go about restoring something like these?

>>15545502
you dont unless you want to kill the value of the watch

>>15545502
>restoring
you dont
you will actually destroy the value
for vintage collectors, no matter if they prefer patina or not, original state is the most important thing. That means all original parts etc
things like repainting, touching up, polishing, reluming will affect the value
unless you are keeping it for personal use and dont care
repairing the movement to a state of functionality is the most i will personally go. I will only replace the crystal if it is broken. Patina adds character

>>15545525
> Patina adds character
I simply do not understand that attitude. On any other item that would be call old, faded or worn and would be worth much much less.

>>15545525
Sounds autistic.

>>15545491
Dealers and auction houses were pushing the vintage patina marketing long before Hodinkee existed.

>>15545548
>On any other item that would be call old, faded or worn and would be worth much much less.
>what are antiques
even the right kind of pokemon card or nes cartridge sells for a pretty penny nowadays
people who love patina and wabisabi love it for what it is
>>15545551
well duh, the whole "hobby" is

>>15545552
I don't really get the appeal of patina, in 95% of the cases is just looking like shit, ok if the dial lost a bit its original colour, but water maks, rust, and overall shit, is not ok for me.Marks and scratches on a watch, ok only if you are the original owner, you have a watch, the watch has scratches because you used it, but buying a scratched watch makes no sense for me, it's the ultimate larping.

>>15545552
yeah but the easiest way to inflate the price of your watch today is to have it featured in some circlejerk hodinkee article.

>>15545502
never "restore" a watch

Best field watch under 100$? bonus points for solar. my current bet is alba

>>15544715
good morning and congrats on not purchasing a cuckaxial

>>15545483
Pretty much. I've seen one of these, not the custom imprint, in pretty much the same condition and it was listed for stupid money though I can't remember the amount because it was a funny currency.
I was immediately struck with just how much smaller this original looks compared with the later models.
The inelegant maxicase shit is obese by comparison.

>>15545622
Probably a solar g-shock if we're talking pure function, capability and resilience. Outside of that it's a sea of mediocre seiko 5s and the likes.

>>15545619
Seriously, y tho?

>>15545646
I'm looking for something that looks like a classic field watch

>>15545619
mind you i understand the mentality to the extent that there's so many hamfisted bastards in dingy chopshops that have mangled submariners and the like by absolutely shitty polish jobs on the case and bracelet
look at the fluted bezels on datejusts and daydates that have been polished till they're just smooth nubs
also dial jobs on vintage watches, the most common and infamous being repainting any given dressier watch's dial black and charging a premium for a relatively rare colour and that shit bubbles and flakes off in time
i've seen this happen to much older rolex dressier models among other brands
i'm not talking about bombay specials here; shit sold in highstreet stores in 1st world cities (that are generally degenerating to 3rd but that's another story)
buying something "unretouched" at least leaves you the option to send it to someone who actually knows what the fuck they are doing rather than to some sidestreet hack that has no fucking clue and just wrecks things
however buying it specifically for
>muh patinananana
i don't understand
unless the watch belonged to a family member and you don't want it fucked with at all, or someone really famous and all value drops no matter what you do with it

>>15545646
Whats the bottom row, second from the left?

>>15545622
lorus titanium is pretty neat

>>15545654
Because its the only untouched Stelline ref 6062 in "perfect condition". Hahahaha

>>15545666
is this even english? is satan drunk?

>>15545619
>buy right for 65K
>dip it on acid
>get PATINA
>Sell for 1,5M

>>15545483
Another piss and shit connoisseur I see

Waywt /wt/? I've got my gold Seiko on.

>>15545654
because the one on the left got featured in 2 (two) HONDINKEE articles ;^))

but to be serious it checks all the boxes for a valuable vintage:
- very old
- pretty much unused, "NOS"
- extremely rare model
- desirable brand
- beautiful even patina

based and shitpilled

>>15545622
I brought one, it's fucking terrible, it doesn't even have any lume, the case feels like timex quality, returned it

>>15545548
>I simply do not understand that attitude
You do but you don't agree with it.
>On any other item that would be call old, faded or worn and would be worth much much less.
Ever heard of "art"?

I am personally against any modification of an art piece, anything more than straight up conservation should be a crime against humanity.

I can’t believe I fell in love with S I N N watches. Might as well put a bullet through my head now anons, this seals the deal and confirms I have COVID

>>15545792
What are some based and redpilled pilot watch makers

>>15545658
I am looking at the same kind of watches. These are the best ones I found for now:

- Citizen solar field (37mm, solar, seems decent but I hate the day and date windows, otherwise I would have already bought it)
- Bertucci (40mm, quartz, every kind of flavour)
- San Martin pilot (39mm, you can customize it with movement and dial but only quartz is at 100 bucks)
- Orient Defender (40mm, auto, new one with hacking)
- various Seiko 5 autos if you're into that

Avoid Timexshit, they are not durable.


This is for the faggot from yesterday, suck my dick, stupid bitch. This is how you help out people.

>>15545796
tutima

>>15545807
bertucci has 36mm , which is a more traditional and better size (get the SS instead of their memeplastic)
https://www.bertucciwatches.com/Bertucci/A1SField.html

>>15545819
Yeah. What I don't like about that is that the numerals don't appear to be luminous and that I can't find them here in Yurop without having to import them so having to pay both ridiculous shipping and custom fees.
For me it's not worth it for a quartz watch but if you actually pay 90 bucks for them they appear to be great if you use them for their purpose.

>>15545840
well, i found a full tritium (!) 200WR 39mm quartz for under $100
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32617351389.html
thankfully it has a ok name too (better than many AE brands)

the near equivalent will cost $445 at bertucci

>>15545861
the crystal is sapphire, you can even choose the colour of the tritium (green or blue). 12 index is even in a different colour for marking
and ofc bracelet can be swapped out for leather/nato for even more field watch look

>>15545792
the sinn u50 is rather nice

"Suggest a watch for me."
> <$150
> elegant if possible
> quartz of auto
> A FUCKING CALENDAR THAT WILL NEED NO ADJUSTMENT EVERY MONTH
> strap or bracelet
> doesn't matter

>>15545908
You know you only have to adjust the calendar five times a year?

>>15545908
forgot to add, I want an analog

>>15545908
>A FUCKING CALENDAR THAT WILL NEED NO ADJUSTMENT EVERY MONTH
theres only gshock at this price. Also provided you live in a radio zone.

https://www.gshock.com/watches/digital/gwm5610-1

>>15545916
no cheap analog with a nice sophisticated calendar on the dial. there is Timex T2N503 but I can't find it anywhere

>>15545690
Maratac SR35, gen 1 SST on a Vollmer engineer bracelet. I believe all of their current gen offerings for that model are Titanium.

>>15545317
I’m stealing that image.

>>15545009
Is that the rolex Bruce Williams left on the roof of his car?

>>15545861
Dude, don't buy chinkshit.

>>15546017
most (((swiss))) watches are made in china.

>>15543013
More importantly, where did you cop your drink-ware ?

>>15546021
Then just buy the Citizen solar, much better.

>>15542836
*looks at the watches..sighs*

>>15546058
>"dont buy chinkshit"
>but also recommends san martin
san martin is china..

that carnival watch is extreme value. Full tritium under $100? unheard of in western brands. Sapphire, 200WR? plus, the bracelet is milled it seems. If the movement ever craps out you can just buy another ronda quartz for $2 and replace it. I only remembered this watch because another anon here bought an earlier version while he was in china.

citizen has ecodrive but it is also at ~$175

>>15546079
>san martin is china..
difference is san martin is honest chinkshit
"swiss" shit masquerades as something that it's not and charges a much higher price accordingly
i mean honestly if you went to buy a seamaster of manonthemoon and it said
>(mostly)CHINA MADE
instead of
>SWISS MADE
would you still pay their asking price?
fucking no, that's why they have to lie

>>15545908
Orient perpetual calendar, lots of options available
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Orient-Multi-Year-Calendar-Perpetual-World-Time-Automatic-White-Dial-Mens-Watch/153559768251

>>15545782
There is a world of difference between an aged antique and a watch that is degraded and rusted.

>>15546079
Citizen is at 129 on joma. I'd rather have the ecodrive than random chinkshit with no QC, even if theoretically the value is superior.
I have no problem with chinkshit but I wouldn't buy a watch on Aliexpress, I'd rather buy it from their site or a dealer, like for Seagull.

>>15546098
>t. has never bought from aliexpress before
funny thing is aliexpress has better customer protection than ebay. They will 100% side with you every single time. I have probably bought over 100 misc items off AE.

NEW THREAD IS UP
>>15546109
>>15546109
>>15546109

>>15546111
cringe

what watch do I get to cope with being a mid level corporat?

>>15546090
No, there's not, they're both manufacts of a forever lost time that testimony craftmanship that you can't find today, like someone just said a chinkoid Speedmaster has almost no real value other than the technical one and the marketing one. For old watches genuinely made in a swiss factory by local people it's different, even if the movements were technically worse.

We will never have something like that ever again, at least not in big numbers. Seiko is the only one doing it and most of their stuff too comes from where, Thailand factories?
It's something we lost forever.
>>15546111
>0.05 credits have been deposited on your social credit account

>>15546117
are you new to /wt/? lots of people here buy off AE often, everything from straps to tools to paste to bezels to homage watches

>>15546115
Omega Deville

>>15545489
lol where can I get this?

>>15545548
nope.
you ever watch antiques roadshow? restoration devalues most antiques. watch karen's face go from smile to frown when the appraiser tells her that polishing her antique dresser drawer or gun knocked thousands of dollars off the appraisal.

>>15545908
casio royale

>>15543040

>>15545771
nigger tell me you're joking. I could not find something even near to that. day/date, solar and 60$. I thought about buying this and just replacing crystal with sapphire

>>15542836
Is this Max Hardcore's watch collection?

>>15546355
Sorry bro, the quality is bad. The only good thing is the movement is quite good

>>15546021
>made in china
things are about to change soon

>>15547070
LOL no it fucking won't get real