/fa/ - Fashion

>>15454378
At first I thought that was his forearm on the left and I was like "whoa, dude has a thick forearm with a quick taper. I wonder how that happened."

is the old Alpinist (sarb017) still worth it at $470?

which raketa is your favorite?

>>15454389
That one that has Rolex on the dial.

>>15454394
Leave me alone.

>>15454384
That's the seiko steve jobs right? Just get this one

>>15454389
the windrose or copernicus

the soyuz is very pretty but probably extra hard to find a non franken one

>>15454389
Copernicus all day every day.
Big Zero is great too but too much of a minefield to get.

>>15454418
ive seen a lot of redials of copernicus as well, it is a popular model

whats worse, there are hands and cases and dials on sale.

>>15454438
It's not as bad as the Big Zero, I'd say a good 75% of these are obviously frankens, and not even with replacement parts but with very obviously inappropriate hands or made-up "alternate dials".

>>15454388
I'm thinking the same thing, Worst case scenario I can just sell it for a minimal loss or even a small profit.

>>15454443
>alternate dials".

a while ago i saw on of these on sale, 85? usd
the dial is very nice looking to be frank, and the seller was honest enough to list it as a "new serviced dial"
was kinda half tempted desu

>>15454466
>both eclipse hands are the same colour
he blew it

>>15454453
yea
im only hesitant because while its nice its not really one of my "to get" watches. And at 6" wrist it will be a tight fit.
the specs are still great though, and with the new prospex ones being at $725 MSRP there is plenty of room for price inflation

>>15454394
>swiss shitter trembling in his uggs

Not troll but want real inputs.
I went to a party and this dude was wearing a rolex I think? He looked hella weird with it and not your typical "Refined and luxury" look either.
So what is the deal. Some people who wear these touted watches look extremely tryhard.

I get it if Nadal wears a custom millie or rappers/singer/star wearing a nice watch but to your average person? Doesn't look right

>>15454557
it was probably a fake

>>15454557
What is your question? Are you wondering why you're so poor that you can't even afford entry level luxury like Rolex which literally everyone on an average salary can afford? I don't get it.

>>15454562
I can afford a watch. I really like grand seikos. But i don't because I don't need an indicator of my wealth with a wrist strap. Plus work is not a great place to have nice things because seeing patients and blood. Why are you projecting. I asked a question yet you rebound it without answering it.

>>15454558
Even if it is a fake, he looks awfully weird with it. He also had a samsung ultra shit with 6 camera lens. He just looks incredibly incredibly try hard. I'm just wondering if this is how you guys look talking about watches

>>15454557
probably a fake but who cares
theres no use buying a lUxUrY wAtCh if your lifestyle isnt that, you'll look like a joke.

are Zeppelin watches any good? anyone have an experience?

>>15454378
should I buy one of those cheap india HMT watches?

how good is their reliability compared to vintage vostok/raketa etc

>>15454570
why do you guys say it's a fake? I said in here >>15454568 he owned a samsung ultra photo. He would have the money to blow on a watch since he seems like a person that other want to know he has money. He talked about stocks and all this other shit.
But my focus is that he looked incredibly tryhard. Is this not you guys too?

>>15454568
Most watch guys are either fat, super small/skinny, Asian or simply ugly, watches are definitely a cope. If you go to a watch convention or whatever you’re not gonna see many handsome Chads.

>>15454577
You should get a circle of friends that's appropriate for your socioeconomic status, might I suggest contacting the guys congregating in front of the local liquor store?

>>15454575
do Indians make their own movements??? if so then definitely

why would anyone buy a Tissot watch when you can get just get a ladies size at literally half the price and a better size

>>15454577
do you even post in this general?
most people here dont have rolexes, only a few. In fact rolex is often the target of shitposting (just because its rolex)

the majority of posts are about buying <$300 watches, sometimes about watches in the $2000-$5000 range for the professional, only occasionally a luxury watch and even then its also about entry luxury brands like omega/breitling etc

we dont gush or fawn over rolex or do stuff like WOW BRO YOU HAVE A LUXURY WATCH WOW DUDE THATS SICK

everyone is civil (mostly)

>>15454582
Bro read what you wrote. If you're defending your interest of watches you are describing what stereotype people have with watch enthusiast

wearing a petek to my retail job

you're telling me Dan Henry couldn't pick a better name for his brand?

>>15454575
>“The most fascinating aspect about collecting HMTs is the sheer numbers that the company made for each of its model. Nobody has a definite list,” says Ithichanda Ponappa, 38, who has over 1,100 HMTs in his collection. “The company has made over 1000-plus models in five decades. One discovery leads you to another, and it keeps going. You cannot get to the end of discovering this brand, as many aspects of its production are not documented.”

>>15454403
I have this. The numerals font (helvetica) is very pleasnat to look at. The whole watch is great, small but awesome proportions.

>>15454652
based king of shitters

>>15454577
> why do you guys say it's a fake?
Because nearly all of the posters here struggle to afford a <$100 watch so think anyone posting anything more expensive has to be fake. Also they all hate Rolex because it's popular and too expensive to them.

As for that guy you saw he's probably an Instagram whore who thinks he needs to show off to fit in.

>>15454668
post your rolly cracker

>>15454588
they use a manual citizen movement they licensed back in the 50s or something
>>15454575
most of those HMTs are redials but everything else is usually pretty good. they are reliable because the movement is extremely simple and they made so many of these watches, entirely by hand. if you read up on the history of HMT they literally had a gigantic village where people just lived there and made watches 24/7 with childcare facilities and schools. so they got pretty good at it. most run within 30S a day, fast or slow, it's a coin flip. some are better, within 10S. again, coin flip. for 10-15 bucks you really can't lose.

>>15454669
I have more than one.

>>15454673
post them with timestamp or shut up

>>15454673
then post them

>>15454674
No because you're an annoying cunt and didn't say please.

>pasty, fragile looking skin
>small dainty wrist
>sparse light arm hair if any

why do Seiko wearers have this physiology?

>>15454672
>most of those HMTs are redials
so i shouldnt even bother trying to find an full "authentic" one and just find one with a design I like the most?

>>15454575
Yeah you should, some look pretty good

Micro is the future.

>>15454683
yes
you may still be able to find fully authentic ones, but it's a huge hassle, you have to do a lot of research, they tend to get snatched up by collectors, you may end up paying like 3-5x the price of a regular one. meanwhile the redials use authentic movements and cases, usually the only inauthentic thing is the strap or dial but HMT straps are almost universally fucking terrible (awful scratchy fake leather like cardboard with exposed stitching) and the redials often look good anyway.
the reason it's difficult to find fully authentic HMT watches is twofold. first, these watches were often given as gifts so they were worn frequently and had sentimental value, so the fully authentic ones are still held by people or they were beaten into pulp from daily wear.
second, HMT watches were once so ubiquitous (and still are to this day in many parts of india) that you had watches specializing in HMT servicing and repair all over the place. literally even roadside huts with 1 grizzled old man who would fix your HMT in the open air with a bunch of parts just hanging off of racks and spread out on a rag in front of him. at some point, they have all had replacement parts and the dial is usually the first to be replaced.
so yeah, just get one you like.

>>15454682
those are all signs of of higher, more refined biological evolution.

humans dont need to engage in hunting or brute force manual labour anymore.
so its only logical that a silm body with small wrists and delicate limbs also have a big brain and big IQ and also appreciate brands like seiko.

>>15454682
>>15454702
Or they're just 12 and never go outside.

>>15454575
they found fecal particles in one of the movements
i'll find the thread for you

>>15454720
it's india bro you know what to expect

>>15454699
thats a very enlightening and fascinating post, and makes sense
thank you for taking the time to type it out, i appreciate it (really)
hopefully I wont fall too deep into the indian shitter hole. Yes many of the hmt im looking at on ebay isnt bad looking and actually look nice. Some of it even looks very modern, unlike the typically heavily dated soviet stuff.

>>15454418
Why not getting a brand new copernicus instead of a vintage one?

>>15454720
fake because no one tests a movement for 'fecal particles'

>>15454720
really? kek

>>15454720
>shit hardened steel

>>15454652
>The company has made over 1000-plus models in five decades.
and yet they did not make a single affordable coomer watch, how come?
>>15454672
>>15454699
different anon here but I'm in awe of your knowledge of vintage HMTs, too. collecting them sounds like a fun niche so let me ask please: did HMT have some kind of a flagship model? are there some rare or iconic models desired by local collectors?

>>15454726
>1450 EUROES or 1700 USD

soul vs (((soulless))

>>15454385
It's pop-eye's wrist

>>15454737
I am a novice to this kind of thing, my knowledge of HMT is barely scratching the surface. there are enthusiasts who know so much more.
>did HMT have some kind of a flagship model?
no. there were a LOT of HMT models with names either describing what they were for like pilot or the names of random people. I would say the most "iconic" HMT is probably the janata devnagri with its hindi numbers. the vast majority of these are redials, IIRC the devnagri was only ever made in white and most of these dials have become faded so it is nigh impossible to find an authentic one. other popular models are the sona, a heavily gold-plated dress watch, the kohinoor, akbar, jawan, sandeep (a classy model), the pilot of course... these are the ones that are easiest to find. there are literally dozens of other basic models with even more variations and this is without going into their automatics and digital efforts like the kanchan (automatic)
>are there some rare or iconic models desired by local collectors?
a non-redialed one but the ones I listed are all solid picks. there is the HMT kaushal, an unspeakably beautiful watch which is basically legend

>>15454562
If you can't buy it on a whim without worrying how it will affect your bank account you can't afford it.

>>15454728
just open the caseback and take a deep breath bro

>>15454748
I don;t know why so many former soviet brands have decided that they are luxury watchmakers now. Luch has the right idea though

Question I was looking at some old seiko and citizens watches on ebay, like somcalled vintage that are for sale just for 10 or 20.
Are they worth buying? I like how they look but am I wasting my time and should I buy a new one instead?

>>15454781
those are indian frankenwatches that may or may not even be authentic and just redials of other stuff, the citizens may just be redialed HMTs because they use the same movement
but if you like the way they look, these are still functional watches

>>15454781
are they from India? because if they are then they are frankenwatches

>>15454772
raketa would have made so much sales if they became the other vostok. Ie making cheap reliable russian shitters like vostok but not 95% divers

maybe theres a effluent class in CIS who buys these ~$1000usd domestic watches that we dont know about

>>15454781
dont get into vintage unless you do your homework. There is are a ton of pitfalls and dodgy stuff to avoid for a newcomer. Those are largely indian sellers, right?

>>15454786
>>15454787

No not India, its ebay uk. I'm looking at stuff that's up for auction, they look like old used watches.
As in watches from 80s or early 90s

>>15454791
quartz?

Here is an example of what I'm talking about
This citizen, uk seller , it's up for auction

>>15454760
best post ITT. thanks anon

>>15454760
that is a pretty watch, and very indian aesthetics.

Dear Yema anon,

Fuck you for putting the flygraf on my radar and making me probably buy one.

>>15454760
Thank you very much for your reply anon, I really appreciate it. I've checked out the models you've listed and I'm amazed, their design is really timeless and unique even when compared to the Japanese pieces of the era. That Kaushal isn't a watch but a piece of art. Thank you again for introducing me to them.

>>15454760
>cant find the kaushal anywhere
how much do these things usually go for?

>>15454817
no problem
just remember that if you're after authenticity you are in for a rough time with these watches but if you just like the designs, they are great value for 10 bucks
>>15454824
I forgot when the kaushal was first released. it was in the early 2000s I think. even then it was a limited production because the watch took a great deal of skill to make and it was one of the more expensive HMTs. how much? I think a couple hundred (lol). HMT is now defunct and the kaushal is exclusively held by collectors, you would probably have to pay thousands and that's assuming that you could find someone who owns it, much less is willing to sell

>>15454808
Why? It looks like it can't make its mind up if it wants to be a pilots watch or a diver.

>>15454836
Part of the appeal. Getting tired of cookie cutter aviators and cookie cutter divers. This one has some unique design choices and a good true in-house movement from a storied company at a price point below $700.

>>15454562
>Rolex which literally everyone on an average salary can afford

>This is what boomers think.

Oh my... Even if your salary was 60K a year (which is well above average, just letting you know), you should not be spending 10K on a watch. Mainly because 60k is gross, and you have a multitude of other expenses. Whatever you have left over after all of that should not be spent on a very luxury, very niche item like a watch. That 10k can be of far more use for numerous other things.

Of course, I say "should" -- but there is no "wrong" way to spend that money, just better ways. Regardless, the point I'm making is that you cannot afford a Rolex with an average job.

>I remembered there used to be an old HMT showroom in Unity Building, and it was exactly the way it would have been in 1975,” Venkat says. “He had no Pilots, no Janatas, basically nothing. He told me to go to a private dealer 10-15 feet across the street from his store who might have these models.
>Then, he literally went out the back door and greeted me at the other store — turns out that was his private dealership. Then, he said he would give me a Pilot only if I bought five other watches — models he wanted to clear. I thought he meant for free. No, he meant he would sell it to me only after I bought those watches. Later, I found out that the salesman is a legend himself.
Damn, HMT salesmen were even more hardcore than contemporary Rolex ADs

>>15454800
looks like an Indian franken, probably some Indian in the UK gettimg them from India

gonna start collecting watches with dictators on the dial. any suggestions?

>>15454942
https://www.fratellowatches.com/tbt-stevie-wonders-magic-watch/

>>15454959
interesting...

Thread is strangely educational today

>literally has thousands of watches worth less than fifty USD a piece
are HMT collectors the biggest chads in the watch community? I feel a strong sense of respect

Okay, so obviously this is fake?

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/rds/jwl/d/delta-rolex-yacht-master-everose-gold/7162459337.html

But what I don't understand is how, even if this was fake, it's priced so low. A watch that retails for tens of thousands being sold for under 1 grand? It just doesn't make sense to me.

Or, is this more likely to be a stolen item?

>>15455021
They are madmen

>>15454959
Kek, what makes the story even more interesting is that it's a customized "Time to Fuck" watch, judging by the very similar case I'd wager that it's from the same maker, "Leisure Time".

>>15455043
>warning! do not try to keep up with this watch!

>>15454989
Feels good.

>>15455026
It’s a scam, not a sale of a real or fake watch. Collecting contact information of suckers

>>15455068
better add an HMT before the hodnikee shill ITT writes an article about them

My girlfriend wants a nice watch, but also needs it for work. She works as a nurse in neurology and it's a relatively demanding department.

Anyway, we were looking at Rolex since it's something she wants to have for years, even though it would be an every day watch and a utility watch, and she also wants it to be analogue.

Would just an Oyster Perpetual be a stupid idea? Like, will these watches be able to withstand every day use? Do they break easily?

>>15455119
Does she have hairy arms?

>>15455043
That's like $330 in today's money

>>15454772
Because Russians are niggers who like bling and pretending to be worth more than they are.
t. Russian

>>15455119

Get her this

https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/datejust-oysterquartz--id14551914.htm

>>15455123

No, she does not.

>>15455068
>seiko, orient and casio collection

>>15455164
Then she doesn't deserve my help.

Budget Auto GMT options?

Picking this up next week.

>>15455165
You left out Maratac and Aristo, but other than that, yes, you can read.

>>15455206

congrats anon, it’s gorgeous

>>15455206
Very good looking

>>15455206
Why not just get a real Rolex?

>>15455237
Probably because he doesn't want to put his name on a list now so he can pick his watch up in three years.

>>15455277
There's millions of them on the second hand market though, I don't get the buying new meme.

Why yes, I am somewhat of a watch enthusiast myself... *open up my zelda triforce box full of Casio and Seiko pieces of shit* care to take a look fine maiden?

Tell me about the 2824. Is it a quality movement? Long-lasting and reliable? I see dozens of low-mid range watches using it or some form of it, from $300 to over $1000. How much is too much?
There are several watches I am considering that use that movement but before I buy I need to know if it is reliable. not for resale or investment, just a good quality movement that will last a long time.

>>15455279
Secondary market pricing is retarded on the Rolexes people actually want, buy from a reputable dealer and you end up paying $12-15k for a watch that's already overpriced at its $9k MSRP. (Corrected for inflation, the date Sub was a $5-6k watch for decades and then suddenly jumped to $9k in the last few years basically just because Rolex can get away with it.)

It's just not worth it unless you're the kind of guy who can spend $15k without caring about it, or somebody buying the watch as an investment.

>>15455292
Back in 2009 it was the movement found in all fake rolexes

Eta 2824 blanks

>>15455323
> Buys watch for $9k
> Wears it

> Asks $15k for it a month later.....

These guys aren't getting asking for these watches are they?

>>15455343
I'm pretty sure they are. Lots of rich guys out there willing to pay a premium for the "privilege" of not waiting on a list, and maybe even more middle-class dupes scraping pennies together for something they think is an investment and not realizing that it was the guy who waited on the list, bought the watch at list price, and then flipped it who made the real money.

>>15454378
That looks like a friggin duel disk

>>15455292
Depends what you're buying. In a watch that costs a few hundreds it's generally very high quality for what you're paying. I'd argue that upon reaching a certain pricepoint you should probably be desiring something a bit more unique however. The two prices you listed sound like a sweet spot for ETA movements, you're getting proper value for what you're paying for, and due to widespread ETA movement adoption your watch will be easy to service.

The ETA movement may be sort of like a midlevel milestone in watch collection. It's like how everyone is told to buy one of those Seiko 5 SNKs as their first watch. After time with the watch many begin to desire a bit more, and after further collecting begin to view the SNK as simply a respectable starting point rather than a favourite. In the future you may look at watches and desire expensive inhouse movements rather than massproduced movements like the ETA, but that doesn't mean buying the ETA was pointless, just like buying the Seiko wasn't.

That's just my take on it, make of it what you will.

Would this be tacky to wear, or should I just go for it??

>>15455409
I think you can ascend to elder god chad status by wearing that

literally zeus tier

Casio all day, everyday

>>15455340
>Back in
Oki granpa, didn’t want a dissertation about the old west

>>15455409

>>15455119
She's a nurse Bro not a doctor.
My wife is a doctor, bitch don't wear no rolex . See your gf is a nurse cuz she is dumb as fuck and thinks a rolex is a good watch to be wearing as a nurse in a hospital.

>>15455119
First, basically any luxury watch will be able to handle daily use. The movements are not that fragile, and role, is not the kindlg of durability. Second, for other options besides Rolex, check out omega Aqua Terra line, women's (and men's) Cartier watches, jlc reverso, or Zenith defy lines. All good everyday options. Plenty of nice watches below luxury tier as well, like Hamilton jazz Master.

>>15455469
*Rolex is not the king of durability.
I am a stupid phone poster.

>>15454597
Have you read this thread, or any if the others? The amount of Rolex fanboy shitposters? They are definitely trolling and/or insecure about their own status, but it's still very annoying.

>>15455119
Wearing anything other than a digital shitter on the shift is fucking stupid.

>>15454921
So what are these Indian franken
Are they watches with internals of some other cheaper watch?
But are they bad in that they don't work ?
Like I'm not looking at investment value etc.
I'm a novice when it comes to watches. I am just looking for something aestethically pleasing to wear.
So I do prefer the look of these older watches. Just wondering of i get them for a few bucks or damn cheap. Will they at least work ?

>>15455492
If you look at watches for investment value you're already a lost cause.

Are there any companies that aren't bulova that makes spaceview like watches?

>>15455495
Haha your right. I didn't mean it in that way. I meant more as an investment in a good watch for many years of use

>>15455499
I would go with luch or vostok if you want a vintage looking watch. Vostok amphibia SEs look more like real watches and less like toys compared to regular amphibias.

>>15455400
Thank you, well written and informative. Might go ahead and pull the trigger on one of them soon. Again your thoughts are appreciated.

>>15455492
if its a HMT watch its (probably) just as reliable as any vintage. (ie your mileage might vary). HMTs are based on citizen calibres and made to withstand years of wear

ask for a photo of the movement, it should look pristine, even for a vintage watch.

if you get it for cheap i guess its a dice worth rolling?

>>15454726
The new Raketa models are not only overpriced but their designs miss the point so hard it's insulting.

>>15454575
I have one.
It's not very precise but it's a nice, lightweight watch for general use.
No point in comparing it to Vostoks, they have nothing in common and are nowhere near the same market segments : Vostoks are waterproof, retardproof, russiaproof machines, HMTs are simple, reliable watches made to be worn by train conductors or school teachers on the indian government payroll hence the options on some models to have your numerals in any of the many systems used in India.
Their movements are Citizen movements built under license starting in 1961 but since they all kept ticking, they were never updated.
I've been wearing my Jameta a lot because having the Urdu numerals looks funny and is a cool departure from pretty much everything else. It sits really comfortably, which is nice, holds its charge well, gains about 20-30s per day which is not stellar but I've seen worse.
At thr end of the day, it's a mechanical watch for 15 bucks with a design that's actually a bit unique, you can't really go wrong.
Just don't take it underwater and be careful with the acrylic dome.

Can you guys help me decide which one to keep and which one to sell? They both run very well (seiko +2 seconds per month, omega +3 seconds per day).

>>15455587
Personally I'd keep the double penis.

>>15455588
It is clearly the better watch, the I ly thing that makes me want to keep the Omega is the fact that it's an Omega.

>>15455519
>>15455549
Hey thanks for both your replies.
They are UK sellers and it's ebay auction. So think i might chance bidding cheap at the last minute. I mean if i get one for less than 10 including postage then I can't really complain

I just haven't won a watch in 20 years and I honestly don't know if I'm going to like wearing one or not .
So I liked the look of these older watches. And by older I mean 1990s or 1980s

I don't want to spend money on buying a watch and not wearing it then. As it's 20 years I bought a rotary watch and worse it for a while before giving it to my father

>>15455590
The geneve isn't really that special imo. Perhaps later on you can find some omega that really catches your eye.

>>15455292
>from $300

where do you get an eta 2824 for $300? the cheapest ive seen is $480

What strap would you wear on a type A flieger that isn't leather?

>>15455596
>Vostok
>10 including postage
Be careful that you're not buying a manual-wind watch, unless that's what you're looking for. Some sellers don't make it very clear.

>>15455465

Yikes!

>>15455612
a nato, of course

>>15455279
Yeah let me just pay 18k for a STEEL watch

>>15455596
eh dont worry too much about it
before i got into watches ive not worn one for like 20 years also
but now even going without a watch for a while feels weird, like theres something missing

>>15455614
Oh it's not vostok I was looking at. It's seiko and citizen
I honestly don't mind a manual watch as id happily wind it when getting reday to go out. But from what I'm reading they are battery watches as the sellers mention new battery put in

>>15455682
Ya I was thinking the same. But Im wearing a wedding ring now for the past 12 months and I hate it. I hate jewelry . I'm just thinking a watch is something to help me look more present able for work when wearing a suit.

Technoslav friends ww@

>>15455661
Something that doesn't scream micropenis

>>15455323
>Secondary market pricing is retarded
more like your average mutt itt is retarded, the oldest watch in your screenshot is 4yo
are you aware that rolex has been making timepieces for decades and that the first time the sub became mainstream was with the first bond movie 60 years ago?

>>15455700
whats your point? all these watches are still 20-30% above retail

will HOMOS ever make a watch with normal looking lugs?

this is a 35mm watch

>>15455721
At this point I'm pretty sure they believe they are setting a trend.

Or they have their models with normal lugs at higher prices.

>>15455692
you watch your mouth boy

natos are HONDINKEE approved and suitable for even the most luxurious of all watches.

Morning lads. Quite hot in Spain.

>>15455716
>retail
no such thing
>whats your point?
that some retard posted a screenshot of 15-20k subs while you can buy one for less than 10k, that vintage models are better than recent ones and only new money plebs haven't got the memo yet, that this general is garbage and that you're just a bunch of niggers trying to justify your niggardry
>muh hommages
even worse than replica, literally what the fuck are you doing, buy a rolex or wear a shitty timex, people are fucking laughing at your shitty watch

>>15454388
I personally think it's fucking fugly and I hate it but in all fairness it's a 6R movement and Seiko doesn't put 6R really anywhere near that price point anymore. They put the 4R shit at that price point and moved the 6R up in shit like the MM200 for like 700-800.
So it's still good value desu
The resale is still good and I don't really see it getting worse
I'd say go for it

>>15455612
Canvas?

>>15455206
PELAGOS
CHRONOMETER
OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED
CUNNY SELF CLEANING
500m-1640ft

>>15455587
Well what are you after? The omega will have the prestige and value for money while the Seiko will scratch the autistic itch.

>he wears a metal bracelet with his flieger
>he wear a leather strap with his diver
>he collects exclusively modern watches still in production
>he collects only luxury """timepieces"""
>he hasnt opened a caseback once
>in fact, he hasnt regulated any of his watches before
>most of his collection are quartz shitters
>owning more than 1 (one) gshock
>he doesnt have almost a 100 shitters of all kinds on his ebay watchlists
>he hasnt watched almost 300 hours of watch repair videos

oh nooooonononono

>>15455736
This looks really good Anon

Where do you buy 2nd hand watches besides eBay?
t. newfag

>>15455786
Yahoo auctions japan using a proxy buying service like zenmarket. Just remember whitu piggu NO REFUNDO

>>15455736
Ι love those phat phucking Seikos, nice color scheme as well. I'd personally have it on a rubber.

I’m rich and want a watch that will impress my friend that is a massive watch nerd. He saves for half a year to get a 50k watch so probably something around 100k to dominate him but I don’t want to waste too much money either so something where I can get most of the money back if I decide to sell it again. I want it to be understated so that normal .people don’t know it is that special(no all gold watch for example) I also don’t want it to look too modern but not ancient either. Any ideas?

>>15455810
>100K

get a Patek desu. Of all the HAUTE HOROLOGIE its the most well known, even normies will know what a PATEK is. You'll decimate his ass.

>>15455810
Patrimony perpetual but you will lose money

>>15455786
Chrono24

>>15455810
RW Smith.
Very well known haute horology among collectors and enthusiasts, but to someone outside that circle it wouldn't be recognized

>>15455810
A Patek is probably your best option, even though I'd never buy a Patek if I had that money, I'd probably go for a Lange.

>>15455786
WatchUseek, chrono24, reddit, etsy (in that order)

ebay is still the best and it rewards hunters who do their homework with low prices. Franken watches be abound in ebay and etsy (especially the latter) so be careful.

>>15455740
You're right that you can get some steel sports below 10k.
Only issue is that even used the sub is almost double the price of second hand or grey market watches that have equal or better specs, more complications, etc.
Not everyone wants to dump 8k usd into a no date sub when they can get a bb58 for around 4k-5k. Even the ETA tudor BB are holding up well on the secondary market.
And I mean I was considering an Explorer 14270 but it's just so boring. Don't get me wrong, it's great for a one watch man due to versatility but in collection next to similarly priced watches, it would collect dust.
Shit at 4k-8k you're getting into El Primero, Speedmaster, Reverso/Duoface range.
Why people drop 20k on a daytona when they can get into Pateks or get a better chrono for less is beyond me.

>>15455817
I quite like the look of those. How big is the instant loss when getting one? (The one I looked at was 78k new)

>>15455825
Looks nice, I will consider a Patek.

>>15455736
Morning, Spaniard. Pretty damn hot here too. Good looking watch. I'd be tempted to throw that thing on a blue NATO.

>>15455835
>Franken watches
What's that?

>>15455852
watch build from different parts ductaped together that then still work for some ungodly reason

>>15455810
Either Patek or a Lange.

Lange will impress a watch nerd more because they are not as well known outside of watch nerd circles. An 1815 Chronograph or Zeitwerk will make him cream his pants - though the later is not exactly understated. However Lange do depreciate a lot if bought new. So the safer choice is a Patek or a second hand Lange that is only a few years old if you plan to sell it later. The Patek's that would dominate your friend are waitlisted (Nautilus and Aquanaut) and the more readily available models are very traditional or the opposite of understated. However the 5320G-001 would be a good choice - the most casual perpetual calander Patek currently make.

>>15455810
Patel 5370P

>>15454760
Holy A E S T H E T I C S
Why don't more brands do that sort of unabashedly local-looking watches?
Fuck trying to look like yet another Seiko or ape the already overdone Bauhaus styles, make french watches go Baroque, make chinese watches fo Classic Song, stuff like that.
Vostok is doing pretty well with their USSR-nostalgia pieces so hey.

>>15455868
He said up to $100k. That watch goes for over $200k

>>15455872
If he’s rich that’s nothing.

>>15455810
Any kind of Lange or Patek with a minute repeater complication. Like a Kuckucksuhr but cool and for your wrist.

>>15455852
frankenstein watches
watches that have had parts replaced/swapped
it could be a watch put together from several old watches, or new hands, cases, dials swapped in and sold as NOS (new old stock) vintage with a high price and not disclosed to the buyer (ie dishonest)

you also can have painted dials, dials painted in all sorts of colours to hide damage or ugly patina. Many times its not even in a colour that was not original

for example pic related is franken 1950s Mayak soviet watch. Original is on the left. Note the different hands, the case is from a different model of the same era (afaik) and the dial while being in a very pretty red was never in production and the markings obv painted over. In this case the prices reflect it being franken but many times sellers can be dishonest or they are not watch people and dont have a clue (ie they just collect stuff from the flea market to sell)

>>15455874
It's not nothing, it's over $100k. Just because he has $100k of disposable income he can spend on a watch doesn't mean he can easily spend over double that. Even if you're rich it's all on a relative scale.

>>15455864
Yeah, even though I like the Lange 1 aesthetics more, I'd probably go for a Zeitwerk personally, since the sister company Glashutte has nailed the Lange 1 design perfectly for a fraction of the price.

For all intents and purposes though, the Zeitwerk is a horological masterpiece.

>>15455869
It takes investment to make a watch so cowards stick to what is safe

>>15455881
Zeitwerk would be my choice too. That Zeitwerk Date is my current grail and goes for under $100k. However afaik it's a hard model to get as you can only order it in a boutique and only a small number have been made so far. I've never need it on the second hand market.

>>15455881
Zeitwerk would be my choice too. That Zeitwerk Date is my current grail and goes for under $100k. However afaik it's a hard model to get as you can only order it in a boutique and only a small number have been made so far. I've never seen it on the second hand market.

>>15454388
I have one, (Its getting serviced) heres some pros and cons:
Pros
>fantastic external finishing. SARB line still shits on everything in it's price range as far as that goes.
>has a distinct quirky kind of aesthetic
>200m water resistant, sapphire crystal

Cons
>the 6r movement is ok. Just ok.
>No ar coating, crystal is fucking annoying with light
>dial indices are stamped not applied
If you looking for something that isn't a Hamilton thats iconic in it's own right and from a brand with 'heritage' I'd say go for it.
If none of that is important to you go for a micro-brand and you'll find something as good but less 'iconic'

>>15455874
Bullshit. I've been fortunate in my life monetarily, some lucky breaks and some good decisions, lots of hard work. Despite easily affording "luxury" watches, you'll never see one on my wrist. The only justifiable reason to put $10k+ on your wrist is to try to impress people by outwardly flexing your wealth, which is a game for douche bags. you can get $50 watches that are +/- 5 seconds per day and very resilient. You can get automatics that are the same accuracy and resilience for a couple hundred. If you really like baller watches, good for the individual, but pretending they are the only watches that matter make people fucking tryhards.

>>15455897
>inb4 "sounds like poorfag cope to me :^) "

>>15455897
Same. I could afford the big baller watches but I don't see the point. The advantages over really nice entry luxury or even mid level watches just doesn't merit the exponential difference in price. Just because you can afford to drop 250k on a watch doesn't mean you should and ultimately the real value of a watch is the value we imbue into it through our experiences while wearing it, not having expensive shit just because

>>15455894
>dial indices are stamped not applied

really? they look applied but ive never seen them under macro/just assumed it was applied
maybe it can be a good thing as it avoids misaligned indices and indices falling off (have seen that happening with other seikos)

>>15455206
>>15455231
Thanks

>>15455237
>Why not just get a real Rolex?
I don't really see the Rolex connection anymore, Tudor stopped using the cases and the name a while ago. rolex is too expensive for what it is and people are likely to assume it's a fake.
>>15455780
Cleaning cunny is a speciality of mine, I hope that my watch will help me achieve cunny cleaning excellence.

>>15455917
>>I don't really see the Rolex connection anymore
Do you have eyes retard lmfao.

>>15455801
>>15455785
Thanks guys, but I didn't chose it, was a gift from my fiancee.
I guess she made the right choice since i like the limited snow monster a lot.

>>15455842
Beautiful, the colours are fantastic in combination with the strap.

>>15454836
>>15454853
Besides the crown guards, name literally one thing about it that makes it look like a diver

>>15455810
Duometre spherotourbillon.

All the way from Christopol

>>15455869
maison celadon had these suzhou handsewn silk dials, but it was a extremely limited run and at $2.5k each. I would love it if such kind of things were more plentiful.

>>15455950

>>15455962

>>15455206
Based LHD

>>15455944
> 990 feet
That's either a dive rating or a very low altitude limit.

>>15455950
>>15455962
I'm expecting a dragon dildo.

>>15455587
Im a huge vintage omega fanboy but the geneve has never been the most interesting line. Keep the penis quartz until you spot a seamaster or connie that catches your eye

>>15455962
Here she is, my first.
On reflection I should've ordered a model with a less busy face, but I like the construction of the watch itself and will wear.
Thinking of getting a Eulit Perlon strap as I'm a wristlet, possibly brown or black. Been offered a leather strap which could be interesting.
>>15455975
The smell of the box is like /g//csg/ purfume

>>15455982
You lucky motherfucker I'm on month four of my wait. How long was it?

Looking for something rugged to take camping etc. Thoughts? The yema is about £100 more
Any other suggestions for ~£500 or under would be appreciated

>>15455972
>>15454836
>only dive watches can have >=200WR

its a field cum flieger, what yema says. Some field watches have very good WR, like the sinn 856 (200WR) alpinist (200WR), boldr expedition (200WR). 300WR is unexpected but hey why not

>>15455986
Ordered 30th of June, avoided import duty too. UK

>>15455987
take the Boldr pill

>>15455323
Imagine paying 10k+ for a second-hand watch.

>>15455987
Oh I'm also considering picrel, any redpills on victorinox?

>>15455992
Would but
>wristlet

>>15455987
>hamilton
>50WR
you better take it off before you swim

>>15455991
fucking lol. send it back, it's disgusting.

>>15455836
dude I don't care I have one datejust and one ap, both vintage both precious metals both uncommon both heirlooms
and then I wear my bin laden casio because watch guys are so unfashionable it's crazy how certain people dump tens of thousands just to look like stem nerds
do you want a sub? pay 10k max
do you want a sub for less than 1k? buy chinkshit replica
'tudor' should be the name of the expression that normalfags make when you answer their 'cool watch is that a rolex?' question

>>15455950
>Christopol
It's Chistopol, anon. Meaning "clear field".

>>15455991
Why is there jizz on it?

>>15456013
Secret Soviet polishing technology.

>thicc
>>15456008
With the right strap & bezel it's redeemable, but yeah I wish I'd picked a more pairable colour and without Arabic numbers.
>>15456012
Spasiba

>>15454580
That’s any hobby because most chads are the niggers/women of their gender. Being in the top 10-20% of attractiveness they find instant success in mixed company because chicks want to fuck them so it’s easy to stay there and never develop a skill outside of “being the man”. Honestly looking for chads around you to justify your interests has to be the biggest virgin move ever.

>>15455998

>Victorinox

Mulder's field watch

>>15455842
Hello my 6t63 brother

>>15456025
ive dated a male model in the past and outside of looks he was incredibly boring. Couldn't talk about books, movies, science/engineering, general topics. His hobby was just "going to the gym" and "swimming". It was so awful.

>>15456019
OY, YOU GOT A LOICENCE?

>>15456068
Can confirm. I have a female friend who is a model and all the male models she has introduced me too have all been boring to hang with. On the other hand some of the female models have been surprisingly smart and career focused. However I can't say the same for my friend. She's an utter sweetheart but has the IQ of a cheesecake.

I just realized people are paying retarded amount of money for sarb033 so I'm going to sell mine to get pic related
Good idea or am I retarded?

>>15456103
Do you need the money?

Also remember if you sell it and then want to buy it again in the future ...

>>15456103
I prefer the layout of the 033/035 but that dial texture is bretty gud

>/wt/ wasn’t satisfied with russian shitters
>/wt/ now divests its great wealth on vintage indian watches that are packed with actual human feces

Based, but at what cost

>>15456113
>>15456117
Eh, upon further thought I'll probably just keep the sarb. The fuyugeshiki thing has worse movement and hardlex instead of sapphire while also being more expensive than sarb for whatever reason.

>>15456139
>have to shit immediately on the street
>use the bezel for scraping off the shit
>use the strap for wiping
>has a chronometer to time yourself
>have some engraving on the backside to read while you're shitting

>>15456066
Hey man. I like it in black. Mine is the SSB025PC, which I'm guessing is just the jap domestic market variant with the same meca-quartz movement?

>>15456221
No idea, there's a lot of variants in the SSB line. I bought mine 5 years ago when I didn't really know much about watches, I guess I got lucky that I didn't end up with some fashion shitter. I don't really wear it much anymore, it's the biggest watch I own and I think it's probably a bit too big for my liking, and then there's the date wheel which isn't colour matched to the dial. But for £50 I think I did all right.

REVOLUTIONARY NEW WATCH!!!!
40-44mm Diameter!
200m WR!
Loud Pastels!
Stupid Logo!
Folded Link Bracelet!
Associated With X Cause/'Heritage'/Website!
'Homage'!
NH35 Movement!

>>15456317
based

>>15456317
Only $349.95! Or $319 On A Dive-Ready Rubber Strap!

Thoughts on the choroless navi?

>>15455661
>150k split second patek on a 2 dollar nato
People really do anything in order to get attention online.

>>15456356
It looks good. I feel like if I were to get a Breitling it would have to be the Navitimee but this gives me the aesthetic with less bulk and no complication that I'd honestly probably never use

>>15456356
I personally can't get over how the bezel looks like gemstones or something. I think it's weird but even though I don't hate it it causes me to do a double take each time I see the watch.

>>15456356
>anal beads bezel
If you like it then just buy it. Stop asking the tasteless fuckwits here as if their opinion matters.

>>15456356
It's an actual improvement and looks very classy.

>>15456362
Now I can't unsee it

Got a matching NATO for my russian shitter. Cheapest watch I have, most in use one.

>>15456317
.
post a micromeme watch thats exactly all these specs.

>>15456369
Does that by extension make you a tasteless fuckwit?

>>15456356
its neither quirky-ugly nor aesthetic enough to excite me
meh/10

>>15456375
Those are from Belarus, not Russia

>>15456356
That blue one looks slick. Not so hot on the rest of them though. Navitimer chrono autists will hate it but they like a cluttered piece of shit watch so just bee yourself.

>>15456356
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfDPu9uOO-0
The 41mm version actually looks quite nice but I'd rather have a chronograph.

>>15456376
Islanders use the 36 and don't have a different metal bracelet but otherwise

>>15456387
Ofc, it even says Belarus on the dial. But the original brand and therefore design was from the CCCP. Today the brand is maintained in Belarus.

>>15456421
I think they were always made in Belarus

>>15456423
Doesn't really matter. In the mind of the Americans everything in Cyrillic is Russia.

>>15456440
I am American and I know Belarus exists

>>15456423
Oh, I didn't know that they were always produced there.

>I've never seen Predator or Commando
Hodinkee is the biggest cringe on the planet, these people are not human

field watch reccs? under 500

>>15456471
A G-Shock

>>15456475
i got one already and a rock put a chip into the screen, i'd like something mechanical to mix it up

>>15456356
Stop posting this. The original is better and more iconic, this is ok for wristlets maybe but honestly just get a speed master reduced if you want a busy looking watch.

>>15456477
A Chinese homage field watch

HAI its Mawk from lawng islandwatch

>>15456505
herro wut is the status of my shitter delivery?

>>15456477
a HMT Jawan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzVfqv1sAcA

>we have now degenerated to collecting 10 dollars Indian shitters

>>15455960
>their base Yue Fei model comes with a seconds hand shaped like a fucking guandao spear
At last, a watch to fit my Dynasty Warriors autism.
Unironically based.

>>15456530
>shitters
I prefer the term "sparklers"

>>15456530
This is the logical conclusion. We are reaching definitive /wt/-core :
>HMT
>east-german Ruhla
>90s Raketa
>f91s
>only the biggest G-Shocks that won't fit on anyone's wrist
>Flik Flak

>>15456505
>Today we're going to talk about a new line of shitters I've added to my Islander line
>Instead of ripping off Seiko again I've decided to come up with my own completely original design for the first time in my life
>the world's first urine absorbent watch, with a case shaped like a pile of dogshit
>to start it, just tear the crown completely off the watch and piss into the hole
>no returns on this one guys

>>15455721
The minimatik exists

*ahem* FUCK watches

>>15456471
Hamilton has some field watch looking shit for cheap on jomashop
Water resistance is ass on most of them though, basically just splash resistant

>>15456094
>I like pretty girls
>I like cheesecake
She sounds perfect

>>15456556
the crescendo will be /wt/ discovering Orex, made in communist Romania using Sea Gull movements

>>15456621
>didn't know this existed
b-bros...

>>15456621
We must go deeper

>>15456621
That and the north-korean issued watch.

>>15456666
checked

>>15456317
But Squale already exists?

>>15456317
yes yes YES YES!!!!!!! WHERE DO I GET THIS???

>>15455987
I've heard a lot of bad things about that specific yema model's quality control

>>15456453
Disgusting and repugnant.

mmm purble :-D

>>15456739

>>15456752
t. g-shock owner

>>15456453
>didn't watch any of those peak action movies
Is that guy gay or a cavemen?

>>15456761
purple g shock

>>15456739
Andersen is the epitome of class and taste

>>15456761
G-shock has more class than that purple piece of shit.

>>15456771
basado
>>15456776
cringeado

five identical flik flaks

>>15456794
crased and pilled

is there a non-vintage chrono out there that isnt fat as hell and <46mm lug to lug?

>>15456816
reduced speedmaster

>>15456453
Commando is kino, but Predator kinda sucks desu

>>15456832
> Predator kinda sucks
Fuck off. You can't call yourself a man and not like Predator.

>>15455991
Very nice anon :)

>>15456832
>Predator kinda sucks desu

t. alien

>>15455661
Thats a Zulu, not a NATO

>>15455869
Just saw the credor fugaku yesterday I cremord hot fungicky

>>15455206
The Pelagos is a great choice, I'm torn between it and the Black Bay 58. I'm leaning towards the BB58 because I love the new version with the navy blue dial, but I wish it had a date complication like the Pelagos

>>15456497
>noooooooooo you just cant post a better looking watch than my cluttered piece of shit!!! think of the heritage and iconoclastic value!!!!! noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

>>15456375
Absolutely stunning choice my friend w2c both

>>15455206
Good choice, I prefer this to any other diver I've seen

>>15455810
Depends on what you like.
the pre-owned market (and you'll most likely have to buy pre-owned if you want any value retention) thins out considerably from 50k to 100k so you'll have to be very careful with what you buy because pieces become very hard to move and you are more likely to lose money on them.
Regardless here are some examples that are at or below your budget that will make any serious watch collector assmad jealous.

>F.P.Journe Tourbillon Souverain
One of the most respected watchmakers, the most important piece (first he produced in series) and generally considered the most gorgeous Tourbillon in existence. Price depends on the reference but you will be able to find them at and slightly below 100k$.

>A.Lange&Sohne Datograph Perpetual
With the release of the l951 caliber in 1999 A.Lange became the undisputed kings of Chronographs, you will not find one more beautiful, not even from Patek or any of the independents. On top of that they added a perpetual calendar which just adds to the insanity. Lange is generally considered to be an undervalued brand for what you are getting in the same sense that Grand Seiko is undervalued in their own price area. You will find a great Datograph Perpetual on the second hand market for 100K$ or less.

These would be the ones I'd look at in your price range.
Other than that Patek, Audemars Piguet, Lange and F.P.Journe are always a save bet so just go with whatever you like from those brands.

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>>15456920
jesus christ anon

>>15456920
FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>15456920
fuck out of here

>>15454588
>do Indians make their own movements???
Yes. They like to make their own movements in the streets.

>>15456920
Based

>>15456840

Ew, stfu, boomer. Stop with this stupid machismo shit. It's a movie. Liking it literally has nothing to do with masculinity.

>>15456068
Do you still eagerly answer his late night booty calls?

>>15456920
Based