/fa/ - Fashion

>>15446217
>>15446229
So.... if I understand this correctly, you're against people flaunting wealth and status but you're trying to win an argument by flaunting your (unearned because you're not from a "3rd world shithole") wealth and status compared to the other guy...?

>>15446265
Hush now

second for autistic amounts of gizmos that no one will ever use

Money posters get the rope. Post watches. Discuss watches.

>>15446259
>less autism
>posts a picture of 10 watches displayed in alphabetical order
Great start OP

>>15446273
I didn't even notice OP's image was alphabetical order. Are you an autism detective?

>>15446273
>that's the joke

First for German autism

nth for G S H O C K
>>15446247
>>15446234
ya its a gal
shes nice and actually not snobby
>>15446255
nah its just autism + butthurt
i even vaguely remember the incident that caused it like a couple weeks ago
>one random anon was talking about maybe buying this expensive luxury watch
>and [guy] got bitter and said wow if you donated just a bit of your money to me I could live nicely for a while. You *should* help me, Im very poor here in this country. How can you not feel bad
>then 1st anon replied with Im ok with charity but I dont like people who beg like that
>[guy] then got angry and thread got derailed a while
>rinse and repeat a few times

so basically if you guys see any OTT shitpost like this >>15446265
trying to stir up classism bullshit its this [guy] so just ignore :)

>>15446259
>>15446273
4 of the watches are almost-but-not the same time and the rest are totally off
REEE

>>15446273
It's more autistic you even noticed that

>>15446291
>>then 1st anon replied with Im ok with charity but I dont like people who beg like that
That's a complete contradiction, how is someone going to receive or accept charity if they're not a beggar in the first place? What, is that guy actively looking for the temporarily embarrassed captains of industry who refuse all help at least 200 times so they have to be forcibly restrained and fed soup kitchen soup lest they perish, and then he gives them money?

Or is he just a hypocritical weasel like all the other rich people.

>>15446273
BBBDFOORST

I inherrited a bunch of watches from my Granddad recently, I think this one is particularly nice. Fairly new to watches myself, not sure about how based Bulova is.

>>15446355
It's a cheap mall shitter.

>>15446355
Not worth a lot but it's about the sentimental value

>>15446291
Fugg I like that red background w/dark text version. Very neat.

>>15446355
They're not very expensive but that one looks pretty decent. It's about how you enjoy them as well.

>>15446355
They make some interesting pieces and some mallshitters

>>15446366
i like it too
its a new release this year but the prices are already 2-3x

Convince me to not order this absolute beauty.

>>15446259
at least use a nice version of the bathyscaphe, not that fume monstrosity

>>15446387
i just can't

>>15446355
OH NO NO NO NO

>>15446387
you can get that cheaper, new on ebay/etsy
iirc ebay has them like $60 burger dollars

also those are chrome plated brass with no display back so you cant look at the smoll shitter movment. But the premium steel+sapphire+display back one is like $150 and a hassle to find a shipper

>>15446259
Timex cocaine watch and brass shells

>>15446421
>the powerglove for TRUE neets

>>15446421
>why yes I do wanna die a virgin how can you tell?

>>15446421
I wish the japs had made some nicer programmable watches before smartwatch cancer kicked off.

Seiko's best attempt was a mess, who the fuck wants a watch with a 2 month battery life?

Just bought a green Range Rover, what's a watch that would go with it?

>>15446355

Thats one of the uglier bulovas I've ever seen. They aren't all mall shitters but yours is.

>>15446431
hulk green submarnier

>>15446421
>d-daddy?

>>15446430
I'd take 2 months over what we have to deal with in smartwatches

>>15446440
We must go deeper

>>15446419
Based.

>>15446434
Already on the waiting list for that, guess how long they "predict" it's gonna take?
Was thinking of copping this fine piece in the meantime.

>>15446440

>>15446259
>Less Autism & More Variety Edition
Lol, do you know where you are?

>>15446449
>yes i want a watch thats like a kilometre thick please

>>15446431
are you asking for a green watch rec?

>>15446431
>Range Rover
The quintessential "I have money but no clue what I'm doing" 4WD.

>>15446444
You can get them these days with a month of battery life, although not if you enable seconds.

Personally the only smartwatch I have any respect for are the Timex Datalinks, I've been waiting fucking years for a USB dress version with the expanding bracelet to pop up on eBay. I've got one of these on right now, 2 year battery life, fully programmable (if you can handle the hell that is writing assembly code), my only issue is the dumb look and the bizarre bracelet that's half folded links, half shitty pieces of rubber that will eventually degrade and fall apart. Battery life drops a lot if you play tetris on it though.

>>15446431

Reminder that if you wear a Seiko you're a poor nigger and all my Rolex bros are laughing @ u

>>15446271
I really want a slide rule watch. Those really tickle my 'tism.
Are there any good, respectable, cheap ones?
I.e. the 1963 of slide rules?

>>15446465
A little cheesy, like something I'd expect from a smart watch downloadable face. Color scheme is cool though.

>>15446459
at least it's pretty wide too

>>15446462
not necessarily but you can keep them coming

>>15446463
I think the Mercedes ML would fit that description much more

>>15446465
not too bad but not exactly great

>>15446475
>japtrash
oh no no no no no

>>15446477
>I think the Mercedes ML would fit that description much more
I can't argue with that. Mainly busting balls, Range Rover is a great vehicle overall.

>>15446447
Thanks love your set up too fren

>>15446452
>fuck, I miss her.

>>15446486

>nokia lumia

Absolutely BASED

Does this white dial black eyes panda exist in 38mm?

>>15446483
I mean you weren't quite wrong the Range Rover brand has been very diluted in the past few years.
The big daddy Range Rover is still pretty good though imo. I'm more of a hater of small crossovers, either buy a wagon or get a proper truck/SUV. (pic unrelated)

>>15446501

Yes but they are rare. Get the green one

>all of these poor pasty chicken wristed faggots with their cheap ass seikos LARPing as rolex owners
lmao bro hold me in dying laffin

>>15446494
It truly was way ahead of it's time. BBOS10 also was quite great, but now we're stuck with crappy iOS or worse - the add delivery platform posing as a smartphone OS.
Where did it all go wrong?
Maybe we'll see a return of good phones, just as mechanical watches came back after the quartz crisis, but I doubt it.

>>15446511
BUT I WANT A PANDA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I really like this thing. Currently in for a service that's going to cost me way more than the shitter is worth, but who cares. Independent watchmakers have to earn a living too (though with a 4 months waitlist, I guess he's not doing too bad).

>>15446523
based and cusion-casepilled

>>15446501
i can only find in cream, here
cream X black 38
https://www.poljot24.de/7100sb.html
you might want to look around

other variants
--
HKed's cream X black 38
sold out on his store, AE 3rd party
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001234223276.html

SUGESS's white x black 38 (pic related)
https://sugesswatch.com/collections/vintage-70s

>>15446505
Hey, you're not allowed to actually dive with your divers. What type of certs do you have? Haven't touched the subject since I got out of government employment.

>>15446526
Cushions are cute.
Just not sure if they work for tool watches.

What is the best cheap watch I could get? A Seiko?

>>15446533
Thank, anon.
I don't know if I could look at that creamy shit tho.

>>15446539
Define cheap. Seiko is always a good choice for ballin' on a budget. Orient is in the same tier usually. Plenty of others depending on your preferences and budget.

>>15446538
they only work for tool watches

>>15446539
What do you want from it? What do you consider "cheap"?
>I just want to tell the time
f91w
>I want something that will never ever die
GShock or Vostok
>I want something that looks nice
Seiko, Orient, Tisell
>I'm faking it 'till I make it
a Rollexs from the arab at your nearest tourist trap

>>15446535
That's not my pic, it's taken from an article of how some of the more popular divers compare in an actual diving scenario.
https://watchesbysjx.com/2017/03/real-world-test-diving-with-the-rolex-submariner-sinn-u1-seiko-turtle-and-seiko-prospex-scuba-diver-padi.html

I only use my dive watches for the light recreational diving I do, which is rare.

>>15446546
Only doxa can really pull it off.

>>15446539
casio/gshock
vostok
orient
citizen (yes they make $150 inhouse mechanicals too...)
san martin
seagull
-
steeldive/pagani/cadisen/guanqin/ AE homage shit

seiko is ok but their new stuff is all too expensive for what it is

>>15446544
>>15446549
Cheap is 125€/150$ max for me.

>>15446550
Understood. Diving always interested me until I had to do it for work, then it became a chore. Parachuting and free fall never got old at least.

>>15446549
>>15446554
>>15446544
Also, I want something that looks nice, I already own two super cheap Casio.
I should've been more clear. Seems like Orient Tisell, Citizen may be for me. Thanks for the advice.

>>15446562
Seiko would be a good brand to browse then. Other anons laid out a number of viable alternatives. Plenty of microbrands packing a lot of value into watches in the $200 ballpark as well, better features than you'll often find for the same price from larger manufacturers. At $150 the world is your oyster though, find some styles and models that speak to you and come here with some questions or seeking opinions on them to narrow it down.

>>15446554
>1,2,|,4,|,6,|,8,|,10,|12
not
>|,2,|,4,…
(Yeah, yeah, but seriously, that doesn't work with roman numerals)

>>15446553
>>15446538
The classic Amphibia has a cushion case too.

>>15446242

Should be fun I just ordered a 9400 gshock to replace my protrek daily driver. Have an alpenis I like and a seiko windy boy I’m increasingly meh about because the red and blue are not bright at all in person. Will replace at least one maybe both with a green and blue I prefer perhaps with quartz to save money but we will see. The sne109 will be pricey for what it is because discontinued but oh well. The victorinox I have handled in another color way and it was quite nice. After that just have to round it out with a gold formal wear and perhaps my two grails, a seiko skyliner deco in light blue and a Porsche compass watch.

>>15446542
i found this 40mm variant too lol

its 40mm but you get the extra tianjin text + extra large display window
its without those kino tier indices though

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001221403172.html

What kind of band should I get for this? The current one is an ill-fitting piece of shit.

>>15446568
>$150
snkl41 for $100 and then $10 for a leather strap.

or just get this, cadisen c1032
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000594179737.html
has a better movement, better glass,better bracelet, and its not even $60

>>15446615
>https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000594179737.html
Looks nice. Thanks.

>be me
>an engineer
>daily beater pic related
>boss doesn't recognise it all these years
>boss's of boss doesn't recognise it all these years
>one day have meeting with boss's of boss's of boss
>boss's of boss's of boss: "nice watch anon"
>me: "thanks i got a good deal on it bla bla bla"
>3 months later
>boss's of boss's of boss: "we're giving you RSU worth half a million dollar vesting in 4 years"
is this the power of the crown?

>>15446621
np, the watch also comes in black

mind want to get here instead, somehow it didnt link me to the main store
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33021815128.html

>>15446514
Who are you quoting?

>>15446638
cope

>>15446627

My story:

>job interview
>interviewer is a woman
>she checks out my reverso and immediately starts sucking my cock
>become her boss

>>15446627
nice fake watch

>>15446627
>had a rolex
>has 4 levels of bosses above him
The fuck?

Redpill me on Hardlex crystals

>>15446602
Shark mesh

>>15446653
>>15446658
Is this the best investment form?

>>15446661
Rolexes

>>15446464
neato

>>15446455
Do you really need the joke explained to you?

>>15446668
They're almost as good as sapphire, and you're pretty unlikely to encounter anything over an 8 on the mohs scale anyway.

https://www.amazon.ca/Seiko-PROSPEX-Solar-Divers-SBDJ017/dp/B06XSJLBH4/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=seiko+prospex&qid=1596141144&sr=8-6

Convince me not to get this.

>>15446687
Seiko is cheap gook dogshit trash worn by pauper tier niggers who want the look of a Rolex but could never afford one in their meaningless lives.

>>15446675
How old are ya?

>>15446691
31

>>15446668
Get a scratch
>CHADacrylic
no worries master you can just rub me with some polywatch or autosol, I will be like brand new again
>memelex
sorry DUDE you cannot remove the scratches unless you use diamond paste and a dremel.
>Sapphire
*laughs in near invincibility*

Shattering
>CHADacrylic
i might crack but I will never shatter, master!
>memelex
I will crack 1st before shattering
>Sapphire
I might shatter if you hit me really fucking hard (like seriously way harder than hitting with a hammer hard), so WTF are you doing?


its either a lower-sidegrade to sapphire or just seiko cutting costs, you decide. Their expensive stuff is all sapphire anyway.

>>15446602
I've really grown to like this style of heavy link bracelet. This one is a solid-link 316L Vollmer but plenty of folks are making similar.
>inb4 anon gets triggered about the wallet

>>15446702
What wallet?

>>15446687
>just a vanilla black sub
honestly its a very boring watch to look at...

>$600
>solar quartz
>solar
>quartz
literally just get the citizen prodiver for $300 less and that watch actually has a whiff of character.

>>15446722
one that cannot hold coins

>>15446702
You got a whole deck of cards in there bro

Espresso and perfection.

Gf got me pic related. Is it just another Jap shitter? I was thinking of saving for a pre owned Grand Seiko but not sure, heard good things about them.

>>15446753
i think its a seiko, not sure though.

>>15446730
Whaaat? How could you not like the pope hat hour, lighthouse minute, or and lume-eclipsing date?

>>15446757
it also has a CYCLOPS

>>15446730
That's awful.

>>15446769
i think it looks great and the 4oclock crown is quirky.
its infinitely better because its not just a soulless sub clone #78322838

it has better light tech, and I dont think the finishing difference (if any) is worth $300.

>>15446702
>continuing to avatarfag with that terrible "wallet"

>>15446784
Looks like cheap trash from a dollar store bargain bin.

>>15446387
I got mine for like £40, shop around more

>>15446820
What doesn't look like dollar store trash for under 800£?

>>15446784
I got two of these when Amazon was fireselling them for like 120 bucks a couple months ago. Amazing. Citizen tries with their quartz movements, the lume is superb, the colors pop, the 60 click bezel is nice and is easy enough to turn although I'm not a fan of the tooth pattern, everything about it is great. Gave one to my dad and he loves it.

>>15446753
It's Seiko so it's automatically trash

>>15446421
Can it run skyrim?

>>15446832
ur automatically trash fgt
post wrist

>>15446833
No, but will run Doom smoothly at 120fps.

>>15446501

Where the FUCK do you buy watches in Ausfailia???

Which looks better with summer casual wear: Casio F91W or A158W?

>>15446886
>nerdbroke or nerdboomerbroke
neither
exchange friendship bracelet with your GF/ BFF instead.

>>15446880
Watches? I thought Australians were still doing live Speaking Clock time checks using an empty fosters beer can and a length of twine?

>>15446880
aliexpress

>>15446627
>boss's of boss
apostrophe-s indicates possession. so does "of". pick one or the other. I don't get how you got an engineering degree if you couldn't pass 2nd grade grammar.

Anyone want to admire this watch and come over for movie night? I'm watching Spy Kids 3D

>>15446922
i see, how does this affect my rolexes or my money or my shares though?

only wear womens watches now

>>15446935
well, it indicates that you don't understand how logic works, which if you used it in an email, your boss's boss's boss might doubt your logical capabilities, which should be at a premium in the engineering biz.
but by all means ignore me. plenty of stupid people with money out there. why should you be any different?

>>15447001
last thing you have in life, online grammar policing, not gonna keep it off you
enjoy

>>15447007
yes, I enjoy it very much when someone makes a fool of themselves in public. even better, when they double down and tell themselves it doesn't matter.

>>15446675
>https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn
I really like the one on the left anon- I've been checking it out on a few sites. Have you thought of pairing it with a leather strap? Just a thought.

>>15446722
"The Ridge." It's a relatively inexpensive way to hold cards, IDs and cash that's easy and comfortable to carry. Some like it, some apparently hate it.

>>15446742
Tell me about it. Have more than a few IDs taking up half of that thanks to requirements of work and the state.

>>15446675
nice pagani homages

>>15446784
Based budget blue diver.

why dont more watches actually have *useful* functions?

If your wrist is small are you fucked or can you expand it with lots of muscle training? Trying to lose the skeleton look.

>>15447063
you are pretty much fucked.

with a lot of training you might increase it by 1/4 inch. Its not explosive growth like a bicep because the wrist doesn't have any big muscle its mostly just tendons.

your eventual wrist size is largely determined by genetics (body frame type + gender) and secondarily to a much smaller extent if you have engaged in a lot of manual labour/training during your puberty phase.

>>15447109
body frame type

lanket/normie/stocky

>>15446421
Oh damn this dude lives in a Battlefield 3 map.

>>15447133
Back to Karkand lookin ass.

>>15446880
From an abbo named Gary that lives in the dumpster behind Bunnings

>>15446431

Zenith has an official Range Rover watch

>>15446474
If quartz isn't out of the question, Seiko Flightmaster or one of the many Citizen pilot watches. (I'm a fan of their ana-digis, especially the Skyhawk.) Auto is gonna be a lot harder because it really needs to be a chrono for that Navitimer aesthetic and decent auto chronos are expensive, Hamilton makes a few and they're the cheapest respectable ones I can find but they're still over a grand.

>>15446903
At least I have a gf, faggot

>>15447160
prove it

>>15446701
Wow how can he dance like this

>>15447162
not him but i have a f91w and my gf has an a15 kek. She wears my f91w now because the steel itches her wrist on long shifts

>>15447170
>because the steel itches her wrist on long shifts
Is that a thing for some people? I think I’ve met someone who had something similar to them and my ex girlfriend was twiggy about touching anything metal (always brushed it off as part of her being a crazy bitch)

>>15446661
Not that unusual in really big companies, I've known people who make 300k+ and still have many layers of management above them.

>>15447179
It's only now during summer when she gets sweaty. The salt collects under her wrist and it annoys her I guess.

Put a metal case on my Gwx-56 and now it feels like I'm wearing a big shiny shackle

>>15447166

Learned it from this guy

>>15447063
Eating junk food will do more for your wrist than any exercise. See big wristed people showing their watches, most of them are not Arnold/Silvester genetics tier, they have meaty arms,even fatty ones. Very hard having big wrists if you are not a fatso.

who here /hairy wristlet/?

i want it

Had sex with my watch on today and I’ll be honest with all of you, I have never been more glad to have had it on a steel bracelet.

She would have 100% ripped that shit off my wrist had it been on anything else. Crazy Korean bitch was pulling on it at times like a lunatic.

>>15447170
wholesome, enjoy your watchfu anon

>>15447189
I feel like a voodoo mac daddy wearing mine. The heft helps keep my 7in pimp wrist strong.

>>15446753
I like it.

The Alpinist is nice too

>>15447231
How much did it cost?

>>15447254

The sex was free but the hotel was $120. It would have been $100 but I opted for the early check-in option.

>>15447231
>Crazy Korean bitch was pulling on it at times like a lunatic
Get a NATO

>>15447260
>>The sex was free
What, how? Is it one of those "rent a hotel room, the lady comes with it" places?

>>15447260
So not free.

>>15446431
a Seagull 1963
now you can have a chinese watch and drive it in your chinese car

>>15447290
>>15447295

Listen, let’s not turn this into a conversation about my sex addiction. I just wanted to point out that steel bracelets have their place and I would strongly recommend them if you’re in a situation where you don’t want to damage your watch.

>>15447298

solid roast

bird watch
bird watch

>>15447352
finally a VC watch that I like.

>>15447353
>finally
bro they have the most bangers out of all the major brands

>>15447352
no other watch company (besides Jaquet Droz) is as committed to birds

RUSSIAN NAVITIMER
russian navitimer

>>15447375

MIGHTY RUSSIAN WARRIOR ONLY NEED ONE NUMBER SCALE

>>15447375
"No."

How do you take care of a watch ? How do you clean it, and with what ? What do you do for the strap if it's leather ?

>>15447456
wash it under cold water and rub it with my fingers, making sure to dry it really well

>>15447456
Wash watch, oil leather.

>>15447189
thats how nixons feel

Do people unironcally like cheap Seikos or is it just to LARP as a poor gutter dwelling spic?

>>15447530
you're on a fashion board, where people routinely discuss the best quality clothes at lower price brackets

There are “faces of /soc/“, “cars of /o/“, etc. How come no “watches of /wt/“?

>>15447552
because everyone's probably tired of seeing mine

>>15447560

I’m not, looks nice.

Also I meant putting all the watches in one image, similar to OPs.

>>15446447
Looks like you are trying to intimidate your watches into keeping accurate time.
>”Go one second fast again, I dare you.”

>hodinkee just released a massive write up on the 36mm Explorer

i’ll never sell, but let’s see how far up the prices go.

>>15447575
Do you like the 36 better than the 39? An Explorer 1 114270 is probably going to be my next purchase, but I wish the numerals were lumed along with the rest of the dial.

Rate my Swatch...

>>15447552
Nobody likes mine

>>15447598
Forgot pic

>>15447585

i do. i feel like the explorer was meant to be a small watch. the idea being for it to be ultra reliable, out of the way but there when you need it.

i agree on the lack of lumed numerals, but it’s never bothered me. my 114270’s other strengths outweigh its weaknesses. it’s like a tiny/little 36mm tank on your wrist. i’ve gone through a ridiculous number of watches in my life and the 114270 is the one that feels perfect for me every single time.

if i were you though i’d wait. who is to say rolex won’t bring it back down to 36mm in its next iteration? if they don’t, you’ll still have your pick of a ton of mint and NOS 14270’s and 114270’s from tons of sellers. rolex pumped out so many of them between the late 90s and 2010 that i wouldn’t worry about missing your chance to own one.

>>15446474
Pic related satisfied my craving for a sliderule. Awesome quartz, and the only one in my stable that I wear regularly (usually when shooting).

>>15447560
I'm not. You're the only person I know who owns a Master Chronometer, so I can ply you with questions about its reliability over the long term.

>>15447591
late 80's terrorbased...

>>15447591

Looks great and nice jacket. Where to cop (wtc) ?

>>15447598

Looks fine

>>15447552
I don't have much of a collection and I've posted my only noteworthy watch enough already.

Next watch will be some kind of mechanical GMT with a max budget of like 5k, so it'll be by far my nicest watch, but I haven't decided what to get yet.

>>15447616
You're the Anon with the Ball...I remember. I think your collection is just fine; I always wondered personally what the Citizem flightmaster was like (it had by far the most complex dial layout I'd ever seen on a watch....I love the idea that one can 'do anything' with it...).

What draws you to a GMT? Is it the function alone, or something additional? Are you thinking Rolex or other?

>you're a nice Anon who doesn't yell at me. Thanks for that.

Someone said bird watches?

>>15447352
cute

Any opinions on the Orient Mako III? I’m looking for a watch I can wear for when I need to dress up for work or a nice dinner. I can find it around $180 which is right in my budget range.

>>15447649
bracelets aren't very dressy, this is definitely a sports watch. I would look for something on leather.

>>15447649
Also in addition to what >>15447651 said. "dress watches" or 'dinner watches' traditionally were gold, so if you want to fall into that category, go for something different in style. Why not try this:
>pic related.

Don't know if they still sell it, but the point is look for something gold, no complications other than numerical date, and leather strap.

>>15447659
silver dress watches are fine, gold looks bad on some people. this is less of a distinction in the watch design itself but more what looks better on you.
I look terrible in gold since I'm so pale, so I'm just waiting for platinum.

>>15447651
>>15447659
I thought bracelets were okay for a dress watch, so that’s good to know. I’ll try searching around for something different.

>>15447662
I don't believe that for a second. Gold looks fine on everyone; the challenge is what leather strap colour you have. Rose gold is a challenge, as it introduces a red into the skin which an be a problem, but yellow gold is fine.

Do you have a specific interest in using a diver for a dinner watch, or is it just an option that came across and you like the design? Also, have you tried one on?

>I've worn the Seamaster with my tux numerous times, though to be honest one day I'll probably just pull the trigger on a Patrimony and be done with it...never gotten complaints though.

>>15447671
They're okay for modern dress watches, but the tradition was one of luxurious comfort. While a bracelet indicated refinement in manufacture, it still would take away the eye's interest from the watch head, so the leather band is a 'neutral' element to the design, allowing all the attention to be focused on the horological execution.

For women it's different, of course: the more precious metals and diamonds the better. But for men, you're looking for something that could be described as 'understated'. This literally means 'efficient' in terms of legibility, simplicity, and aesthetic balance.

>I don't own this, but I think it's an excellent choice for a 'dress watch' in this budget range. What do you think?

>>15447156
>Auto is gonna be a lot harder because it really needs to be a chrono for that Navitimer aesthetic and decent auto chronos are expensive,
Handwind would be OK too (maybe even better, because affordable movements with complications are already quite thick and an auto rotor tends to put them into hambeast territory).
But it must not necessarily have the navitimer design (though I wouldn't mind a homage), it just needs a slide rule. Flighmaster and Skyhawk I know and I kinda dig their ultra-busy looks, but they're even busier than the navitimer or pic related, and those are already hard enough to read, so I'd like to have something a tad more minimal.

>>15447659
There are some traditions that are worth keeping because they make sense (dress watches being simple 3-handers) and other traditions that make no sense (dress watches being made of gold).
The former has a logical justification while the latter is just >muh tradition

>>15446259
dive watches are for faggots

>>15447552
Because everyone is too lazy to start a compilation and no one wants to bother to post timestamped pics to prove their watches?
Pic related. It's mine but I can't be arsed to get a more recent pic.

>>15447624
I'm a pilot, most aviation stuff runs on UTC rather than local time so the GMT function is really useful to have, plus it's nice for travel. For now I use the Skyhawk's little LCD display but when I finish my commercial license (next year hopefully) I want to get something nice, parents might get it for me as a "graduation present" but if not I'll just buy it myself.

Rolex is definitely out of my price range, especially if my folks end up being the ones buying it. My basic requirements are:
>2-5k
>40-43mm
>Not too thick
>Clear dial without too much clutter
>Easy to read, and hard to misread, 24hr GMT display
>Natural steel or titanium finish with a nice bracelet
>Preferably a rotating GMT bezel
Beyond that I'm pretty open to various options. The Breitling Aerospace is high on my list but I'm not in love with the styling and it's a lot of money for a quartz. I'm also liking what I see of the Tudor GMT. Sinn makes a few contenders (pic related), and a GMT Seamaster could also be a possibility.

As for the Citizens, they're technically really cool watches and really nicely built for the money, but they're also chunky dinner plates with too much dial clutter and I only really use the GMT function on them. I've had the black Navihawk for years, got it as a gift and liked the idea but it was just too hard to read and I don't really like black watches, so I went looking for another affordable watch with GMT and ended up settling on the Skyhawk, which is basically the same thing but wears smaller (due to the smaller crystal) and is much easier to read.

>>15447695
>too lazy to do something that likely doesn't require standing up
the state

>>15447690
Well, you're talking with an Anon who doesn't give a shit about tradition; I'm only going by how horological houses tend to group their own watches and the function they serve (as dictated by the general clientele they serve and the expectations reserved within).

I've worn my Seagull 1963 to funerals, the Seamaster to Black Tie affairs, and the Nighthawk to the gunrange. In a sense, none of it really matters if it's the watch you want, either for the purpose, or because you just want to wear that one on that particular day. When I get the Mark 40 back from servicing, I'll be wearing it all the time, regardless of the function (unless I'm working on tour, which is when the Waltham Vanguard is used exclusively).

The old traditions are long gone in the western world, and unless you're having dinners in Olde Englishe Clubs or fraternizing with Masons, none of this shit matters.

The 'dress watches made of gold' actually does have a logical justification; it was the most expensive and workable material available for watches from the 1800s until the early 1940s. It didn't tarnish like silver, it was beautiful and coveted, and so forth.

>>15447695
Fun...what is it? I don't have any time-stamped pics either, but people know me anyway. Here...it's in for servicing, and I miss it terribly.

Were do you buy mod parts for Vostoks?
Of course Meranom has some, but they're all either original spares or rather safe options.
Where do you get the out-there and garish stuff (in Europe)?
Where do the ruskies get theirs?
I would have assumed aliexpress, since that often feels like it's got 90% russian customers anyways, but I can't find shit when I search for Vostok or Amphibia dial.
It's all only Seiko NH35 parts galore, from
>hey, that looks nice
to
>WTF man!
(pic related)

>>15447698
Jokes on you. I'm already running about, but taking a good pic takes time, which I don't have (gotta shitpost and work).

>>15447696
I feel like this is something worth spending on, personally. It's relevant to you in a way that UTC watches almost never are.
Check out the IWC Timezoner Spitfire for something above your budget that could be cool. Or just the IWC Spitfire UTC for a cheaper version without a rotating bezel.

If you're still not sold just get a Sinn or ((Zodiac)). Maybe Oris Aquis GMT since I have a friend with this one and it actually looks quite nice in real life.
I only caution you against getting something that you'd later want to upgrade because, if you're doing this for a job, the watch is likely going to matter more to you than it would to joe schmo. Just my unsolicited two cents.

>>15447702
>Fun...what is it?
Some $20 AliExpress special, which I got to take apart and put back together again to see if I actually can do it, before I try my "expensive" Amphibia.
(Of course it's terrible, but it's quite surprising what $20 or so gets you. Works quite well (+-20s/d) and has no totally obvious faults (besides the hilariously bad pleather strap)

>>15447696
Well, first off good luck for getting the commercial license (my uncle was a pilot for Lufthansa until he retired a few years ago); you should be proud and your parents doubly so.

To be honest, here's what I'd suggest. Wait.

Yup, just wait. When you're a pilot, you'll be making bank, and in a few years you can easily afford a Rolex GMT or anything else that comes across your radar. When I graduated (not as a pilot, as an expert in another field), I was more deeply concerned about my ability to get employment than anything else. My parents didn't get me a graduation present, but I never expected them to given that they paid for my higher education in full. I graduated debt free, ready to take on the world. It's been a few years, but now I can simply go after the watches I've always wanted without them necessarily being connected with a singular event or time in my life.

If you can hold out, then simply wait. Get a job with a major airline, make bank, and then buy whatever the fuck you want. Pilots are paid well, for good reason, and if you're careful with your investments, a Rolex isn't out of the question. I can personally recommend the GMT II, though I only owned it for a few months before trading it for what I really wanted at the time. There's nothing wrong with the watch, but lose all prior expectations about owning a Rolex if you've never owned one before. It's just a watch...a very well engineered and reliable watch, but just a watch nevertheless. As a pilot, you won't stick out with it, but it doesn't matter if you love it. I bought it for the reputation, but didn't love it...therefore I traded it for another watch.

Just go for what watch makes you smile, but make sure you try them on in person before planning your budget. If it doesn't sing to you on the wrist, it's not worth it.

>>15447722
Well, if it serves the function (time or fashion or both), then no complaints.

step aside bitches

>>15447729
Is that the Laco?

>>15447734
affirmative

>>15447728
how do you get a lume shot that isn't either too dark or ridiculously overblown like picrel?
I'm just trying to use my phone and I think it's trying too hard to brighten the background.

>>15447738
I've been tempted by them before. In my eyes, they produce the most 'Flieger' watch existent today. IWC fucks them up by having their logo on the face, and Stowa has an odd case (it's too round...not sharp enough, not utilitarian enough). Fuck me...I have 'finished' the list under 10,000 for now...but the damn Flieger A from Laco keeps vying for my attention like a prostitute in the window near the Oude Kirke....
>pic related...not a prostitute, but just as expensive...

>>15447739
>>15447739
I used an old-fashioned digital camera, not a phonecam. I'm not technologically advanced. I haven't done a lume shot of the other watches in my collection, because quite frankly I've never needed to...so there are no shots of the Mark 40, the Panerais, the Rolex, or any others.

Basically, for lume you make sure the camera is stable, the watch is stable, and you're in low-light and that you can adjust the exposure. Then experiment.

>>15446880
>he doesn't check the time by looking up at the sun

>>15447729
Just buy it already jesus christ

>the avatarfag loser is back

>>15447779
Meant for>>15447743

>>15447716
Oh damn, I didn't even think about IWC. That style of bezel wouldn't be useful to me anyway (I need numbers, not cities) so the plain version could work.

>>15447728
I'm actually planning on getting the Rolex GMT or something like it eventually, but realistically it'll be another five or six years before that's possible, and I'm planning on doing it when I hit a career landmark that feels appropriate (I'm probably not going into passenger airlines so I'm not sure exactly what that'll be, but getting promoted to captain wherever I am seems about right.).

I'm in my 30s doing the career change thing and paying my own way through flight school so my situation with my folks is a bit different as well, and they want to do something nice for me when I finish training, and I'd really like to have something nice to wear during the first 5 years or so of my career. I also have a specific motive for wanting a nice midrange/entry level luxury watch as well, which is that I'm leaning toward corporate/private aviation and the right watch can be a big benefit when dealing with very wealthy clients (something I'm already used to doing in my current job), and a watch in the Breitling, Tudor, Omega, etc. range projects about the right image of social class and professionalism to make me seem right for the job.

>>15447673
>Do you have a specific interest in using a diver for a dinner watch, or is it just an option that came across and you like the design? Also, have you tried one on?
I mostly liked the design to be honest. And with the current crowd I run with anything that’s not a Garmin or Apple watch is basically considered dressed up. That being said I need to be able to dress a bit nicer for work time to time now. I haven’t tried one on yet, but it’s pretty comparable to my current daily watch.

>>15447679
All good info, and I’ll try looking at some more “understated” watches.

>>15447788
>Oh damn, I didn't even think about IWC. That style of bezel wouldn't be useful to me anyway (I need numbers, not cities) so the plain version could work.
Yeah it's only 19k.

>>15447788
>a watch in the Breitling, Tudor, Omega, etc. range projects about the right image of social class and professionalism to make me seem right for the job.
Not really. That's the waiter range that everyone makes fun of. Check this out:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/news/article.cfm?c_id=7&objectid=11717643
https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?74982-waiters-and-their-watches

Is it really possible that Submariners are 7.5k now? Am I getting scammed? I thought they're 10k+

>>15447854
~7.5k seems to 2nd hand prices

>>15446447
Please tell me you don't carry/store that 'retta cocked.

>>15447843
I looked at IWC's site, they've got a UTC pilot but it's some bronze special edition and lt's like $8,500. Not 19k though.

>>15447847
That's certainly not the normal case here in the US, not even in Southern California, and if you actually look at that second thread it's mostly people expressing shock at seeing waiters etc. running around with Daytonas and Subs and stuff on. The reactions there actually go along with the way I feel about watches in this regard, though, if I were to show up to an interview straight out of flight school with a GMT Master on my wrist it'd seem weird and inappropriate, which isn't a reaction I want to get.

>>15447886
>I looked at IWC's site, they've got a UTC pilot but it's some bronze special edition and lt's like $8,500. Not 19k though.
The one from the pic a few posts ago is 19k on chrono24.

>>15447456
i never wash my watches, just wipe with alcohol swab once in a while. I oil my leather straps with oil from my face, I like to think of it as marking my belongings.

>>15447902
Oh, fuck. Maybe that's because it's discontinued.

>>15447456
Wipe with a clean microfiber cloth. Q-tips or a non-scratchy pointy thing with a bit of cloth around the tip (I have some plastic gun cleaning picks that work well for this) for nooks and crannies. I don't really have a good answer for leather now that I think about it, I get a rash when I sweat in leather so I don't wear them in the summer or when doing heavy activities so they don't really get nasty.

>>15447456
just wipe it down once in a while. I avoid washing my watches. Get a deployant(butterfly) clasp if you do care alot about your leather strap and if its nice. It'll avoid the creasing and massively prolong the life of your strap. Occasionally you can oil it with mink oil or a conditioner but keep in mind this will darken the strap, just how it is.

>>15447788
>(I'm probably not going into passenger airlines
So freight?
You need to get Sinns Lufthansa cargo 777 watch then. (I think it’s cargo, but not sure. It’s a nice watch anyways) phoneposting so no pic, sorry.

Look, I like the tech behind the Citizen Chronomaster (5 seconds per year, perpetual calendar, 7 month power reserve, etc.), but I simply can't really deal with the 10-year lifespan of the solar cell/battery/capacitor.

Yes, some individual pieces will last longer, but it's pretty much luck of the draw.

I can't help but want it bros.

>>15447978
theres one selling out of JP for $6.7k on chrono24 now. box and papers

>>15447978

>>15447978
Nice zit bro

>>15447986
you can easily dremel some of that huge windy knob off

>>15447974
>>15447974
So get the version with eco-drive? Like literally the one pictured here?

>>15447971
Yeah, I've seen that one (this one, right?) and I actually like it a lot, but I think it's sold out and it doesn't come on a bracelet, which I'd really prefer if possible. Sinn prices are apparently about to go up as well so I'm not sure if they'll still be the bargain pieces they currently are by the time I'm ready to buy.

Not sure what direction I'm gonna go though, I don't have a degree so I probably can't fly passengers for a major airline, but I'm not sure I'd want to do it anyway since it's by far the worst lifestyle in the industry, especially for the first few years. I might go do something really nuts like flying water bombers if I can but we'll see, I'm a few years away from looking for serious jobs beyond basic instructing or banner towing or whatever.

>>15447992
>eco-drive
That's what I'm talking about.

>>15448001
My bad, I misunderstood. Well, I suppose it is the best thing we have for now.

>>15447649
honestly unless you are in mid-high society it wouldn't matter. Many people just wear divers everywhere now.

>>15447974
I don't understand the chronomasters, honestly. They offer nothing over the equivalent Grand Seiko, the finishing is worse, and a 9F will probably only need a service after 50 years because the movement is sealed. I guess replacing the battery every 3 years instead of every 10 is a negative, but who cares? Batteries will never last forever. Perpetual calendar is a gimmick that saves you from touching the watch a whole 5 times a year.

Why are you all so wound up if a watch is accurate with within 1 or 2 seconds per day as if that is the only thing that matters??

> Does that watch look good? Yes. Great, I'll buy it.
That should be the main factor in a decision.

>>15448065
my next watch is going to be a Longines VHP so fuck you

>>15448065
Different strokes for different folks.

>>15447061
wow this is fucking neat

For me, it's this watch right here. 40mm, small seconds, clean, refined. This is my dream watch.
I'm debating between the IWC and a GS Snowflake, but as much as I like GS, I've always been an IWC fan

>>15447978
Get it then, it's basically a Grand Seiko Hulk

>>15447978
Cool looking watch. DO IT.

>>15448065
>you all
its only a small group of people. If accuracy was a big concern nobody would be buying mechanicals. Im ok with my watch runs fast or slow. Adjusting the time is not a hassle for simple watches.

Behold

>>15448216
IT'S BEAUTIFUL

>>15448120
It's neat, but I'd rather get a Glashutte or a simple Speedy if I had that money to burn.

>>15448201
I was going by every post in the thread which has no correllation to how everybody I've ever met decides to buy watches. Guys choose watches like how they choose girls. Looks, status on the arm and cost. Not if they turn up for a date with exact second accuracy.

RAISED INDICES
Yes this is a real photo

>>15448065
> Does that watch look good? Yes. Great, I'll buy it.

yes but no. What movement is in the watch? what material is the case? what size is it? what is its heritage? is it a new watch or a vintage? what year is it made? how rare is it? whats the cost? if its a vintage what is its condition or patina? theres a lot of factors. Many fashion watches "look good" but they are totally dogshit worthless horology wise and not even worth the shipping cost.

>>15448250
If it's a cheap watch then none of that matters. Design is everything which is why fashion watches sell so well.

>>15448258
what? it absolutely matters. There are a ton of cheap vintages floating on ebay, but their true worth is their condition, history of manufacture, age, rarity etc. Anyone can buy a brand new watch still in production with enough money. But vintage hunting can take weeks or even months for the right specimen to show up

>Design is everything
>everything
it is "everything" only for normies. For people into watches and collecting there are many details to be considered

>>15447352
OWL WATCH
owl watch

>>15448265
That's not an owl that's a pokemon

>>15448262
> it is "everything" only for normies
So this thread isn't for /fa/ or 99% of the buying public but instead only for your little cliche?

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
500 euro
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot diver/pilot /chronograph
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
Automatique
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
Day/date
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
Bracelet or jubilee
> Wrist size or desired watch size
No More Than 42

>>15448065
>mfw my indian HMT has a 3-5 minutes/day inaccuracy window
>mfw my east-german Ruhla usually shits the bed and stops working until you give it a shake at least once a day and if it keeps going for 24h, it gains anywhere from 7 to 20 minutes
Accuracy is for tools

It's almost like people have different tastes, opinions and requirements for a watch. We should argue about looks vs. function vs. history the entire thread though.

>>15448272
Diver pilot or chronograph i Don't Really have a preference
I'm looking for a watch I can where almost everyday something strong
If possible a sapphire glasse would be perfect

>>15448271
>implying normies browse 4chan
this isnt facebook

this general didnt even start on /fa/. And people who care enough to post in forums or small places like here arent the ones buying fashion shitters. Most of the "buying public" who buy mall watches dont actually care about horology or their engineering.

>>15448271
The issue is, for lots of folks materials of construction matter. Quality visible materials will drive up the cost of a watch regardless of the movement. "Looking good" typically requires a good base metal, a nice crystal and attention to detail on the dial and hands that you will not find in cheap mall designer watches. If you can't spot the difference it means you don't know what you are looking at which means your opinion is void.

Best Seiko Flightmaster alternatives in the same budget range?

>>15448280
there was a watch thread on /fa/ just as long as on /g/

>>15446880
Fly to hong kong I guess

>>15448277
Have you looked at Hamilton? They have a number of field and aviator style watches near your budget.

>>15448282
I agree that build quality and so on can definitely contribute to the overall look but in the end it's that look that is always the key deciding factor.

>>15448291
Not yet just been checking the seiko/orient for now I just start watching
https://www.steinhartwatches.de/en/ocean-one-39-black-ceramic.html
I really liked this one but apparently it's a copy of the submarine few people told me what a shame to wear it
So I keep looking

>>15448273
based

>>15448297
I have the 41mm version of that watch. It's fantastic. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

>>15448297
I don't have experience or much of an opinion on Steinhart, but they are not the only submariner clone out there. Most diver watches are inspired by one of two or three original designs, regardless if they are $50 or $5,000. That one is a pretty damn direct copy, but don't let it stop you if you really like it. If you're looking for a one-watch solution to all of life's applications, you may want to consider something more in the field, aviator or chrono range as they tend to dress up better with suits and sport coats and the likes. You can pull off a dress diver, but lots of folks don't like to.

>>15448273
>east-german Ruhla usually shits the bed and stops working until you give it a shake at least once a day and if it keeps going for 24h, it gains anywhere from 7 to 20 minutes
it probably has not been serviced ever and the lubrication has dried up/gummed up
pics? have you opened the caseback to have a look? these sound interesting
>>15448292
its not always the case. For vintages if the piece is rare enough and the condition good enough looks will take a 2nd seat.

Looks dont matter as much as you think, its not 100%. People adore digital watches like the f91w even though frankly its very nerdy looking, or vostoks even though they can be very russian kitschy looking.

>>15448287
incorrect. /g/ came first by quite a while. It SHOULD still be there but some people are retards

>>15448277
It's hard to go wrong with an Orient Mako USA II. Decent movement, sapphire crystal, decent bracelet, and generally a pretty good looking watch, especially in blue.

>>15448306
You have the gmt version or this one?

>>15448309
I tend to prefer chronograph but the problem is for an automatic one it's lot lot more expensive

>>15448315
kamasu is better

>>15448317
That one, same color and everything.

>>15448311
The caseback has scratches on it showing that it has been opened quite a lot and not the way it should.
I'll try to have it serviced next time I drop by in Germany, I doubt anyone will service it where I am.
Keep in mind though, Ruhla isn't Vostok, Raketa or Poljet, their watches were never that good and do not age well in general. Their clocks were pretty good, their chess clocks almost kept them afloat for a few months after the reunification, their watches not so much.

>>15448315
I have an orient esteem 2 as a dress watch I think I prefer to try another brand
But the watch looks really good

>>15448320
Lucky you
I would go for the 39 but I think if I buy it I can save one or two months more to get the gmt version looks incredible

>>15448319
Not the anon you're replying to, but I agree.
I'd prefer the Kamasu.
The Mako II is still good for the price though

>>15448311
The strap is disintegrating, as to be expected with a cheap leather strap that was not work for ten years or so.
It isn't the original though. An east-german produce would have its mandatory notes in german or in english, this one has it in french (makes sense, previous owner was french)

Uncle left me a few omegas and a rolex.

>>15448333
>>15448324
i like the thick font on the numerals, and cushion case which is a bit of an acquired taste

>Keep in mind though, Ruhla isn't Vostok, Raketa or Poljet, their watches were never that good and do not age well in general. Their clocks were pretty good, their chess clocks almost kept them afloat for a few months after the reunification, their watches not so much.
hmm ic

how old is this watch, do you know? like 40/50 years?

>>15448319
Shit, I forgot the Kamasu also has sapphire and the better movement. I still like the Mako (which for some reason isn't called the Mako anymore) more though.

>>15448346
The Kamasu is like a more refined Mako USA. The sharper indices and stronger sunburst dial make the whole design pop, give it a stronger identity and more versatility because it becomes this perfect watch that can transition from the office to the beach to a party

>>15448272
>>15448277
>I can wear almost everyday
maybe the old seiko sarbs
no day though

>>15448350
It's just a bit too "harsh" looking for me, with the sharp indices and the lack of a chapter ring. I like the slightly "softer" look of the Mako for some reason.

>>15448345
1981 IIRC, saw it on a catalog scan from that year. It might be 83 but not before or after that window.
The cushion case and the way the crown lodges itself in are really nice to wear. You quickly forget it's even here.

>>15448351
Wow sure looks good
I'm gonna check that thanks

do u like my watch

New
>>15448394
>>15448394
>>15448394

>>15448201
even +30s/day is not a big deal, that's 3,5 minutes per week,you can just correct the time every two weeks and won't be a real problem because at most you will never be late to stuff.

>>15448246
BUT I ABSOLUTELY CAN NOT SEE THE RAISE FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

Here's the pic that got me really interested in your shitter.

>>15446449
Google up this watch. Designed for hunters, the moon phase is included because torches are not allowed for use in hunting in Germany. Thus the moon phase indicates the level of moon light available.

Impressed Sinn's approach to "tool" watches.

Go to their website to check out their collection. See the "Frankfurt financial district watches". My sides.

>>15448420
My pic is to show how the engraving on the indices throw light around. Are you jelly that my watch went to space with Matthew mcconaughey?

Any recommendations for seiko skx013 rubber strap? I wish there was a fitted ends one but nope. Was thinking about this watchgecko Zuludiver (pic related) or Bonetto Cinturini 295.

>>15448246
>RAISED INDICES
>one point perspective
you had one job.

>>15448662
Tropic

>>15447696
Check out the tudor gmt. Its chunky but it's a tru gmt with jumping hour hand and I'm pretty sure it's in your price range.

>>15448706
But look how shiny

>>15448324
>some people will never know the joy that attractive shitters bring
sad. many such cases

>>15448662
Uncleseiko is fucking fantastic, if you are euro he has a British distributor