/fa/ - Fashion

Reminder: Stop buying watches over $1000 with no precious metal content. It's foolish.

>>15405423
I picked up mine from Watchunique which is in the Netherlands. I didn't know if they were good or not, but I got what I wanted, and the service was good.
>pic related.

>>15405662
Before purchasing, did they send you a pic of the movement? Also, did you go with the reduced size due to the price, or the fit? Also, do you know how large the bracelet and if it'll fit on your wrist? Links can be expensive.

How do you pickup a girl if her watch costs more than your car?

>>15405766
Hey, I have one of those that my dad gave me. It's not a big boy Speedmaster but I kinda like it.

>>15405810
It's a great watch; yours has a nice patina on the lume. I miss mine a lot.

do quartz watches need servicing?

>>15405789
Yeah I went with the reduced size because I prefer smaller watches.
I tried on the 41mm full size at a boutique a while ago and didn't dig the size at all.

They did, plus I know the bracelet is significantly larger than my wrists so thats fine. It's also been serviced by Omega ast year and comes with the receipts for that
I bought it from a private seller BUT I bought it on Chrono24 via the escrow service so I'm confident that everything is as it should be.

I just want my boctok to arrive

>>15405808
A girl wearing a luxury watch is either married or works as a high-class escort. In the latter case picking her up will only take money, while in the former... nothing.

>>15405808
You don't. That bitch is financial irrational.

>>15405823
Excellent; you did all the due diligence you can, so best of luck with the purchase. I've never bought on Chrono24 before, but they seem to do things right by the buyer, so hopefully everything goes well for you.

The movement is a good reliable one, so it should last you for a long time.

>I always liked this design too, only for the extreme legibility.

>>15405766

I feel like we need a sticky/guide that gives a description of each of the watch styles, or even how to use some of the most common features that are often overlooked by all (tachymeter).

I have no clue what a pilot watch is, and 2bh, can't really find info on that with a succinct definition. I would love to have just a description of the major watch design types.

>>15405816
Yes. The only reason they don't is if the movement is so cheap that it's not even worth servicing.

>>15405834
Yeah man, I had a 2 week back and forth correspondence with the seller. I think Chrono24 (or Watchuseek, forums are the same) is excellent for buying watches over 1k, theres an actual back and forth and haggling + you can ask for as much additional information as you like.
Ebay is shit for that in imo
I like smaller watches but I'll admit I prefer the symmetry on the full size ones like that one (even if it's a quartz)

>>15405808
Be much better looking than her

>>15405843
A pilot watch is just a watch used by / with features useful to pilots (same with divers etc). It's a pretty broad and vague definition but over time they've tended to settle down into some distinct visual styles, I can definitely see though how someone unaware of the history of watches and these trends would have a hard time distinguishing what's what. The issue is that there are no succinct definitions and any attempt to make any in the would result in inevitable and never ending flame wars.

>TL;DR
Lurk more ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>15405874
*in the op

>>15405858
>never even been to space

>>15405843
>I have no clue what a pilot watch is, and 2bh, can't really find info on that with a succinct definition.
That's actually an interesting point, and in part it's hard to define because there are several different styles that could be referred to as "pilot watches" and some of them aren't even relevant to pilots except as status symbol jewelry. The most iconic ones are probably chronographs with really busy faces and E6B slide rule bezels, but these are the ones that have the least actual use for pilots. Then you have Fleigers, large ones with simple, easy to read dials, which were once standard issue watches for actual pilots but aren't really used in aviation anymore. After that you have a bunch of random stuff that's actually used for aviation, like the Rolex GMT, which is more like a diver in style but was designed for airline pilots, and the Breitling Aerospace, Omega X33, and G-Shock Gravitymaster lines, which are actually designed as tool watches for modern pilots but don't fit the style commonly recognized as a "pilot watch."

>>15405874

But that isn't accurate at all, though. Diver watches, for example, have very strict definitions and literally have requirements they must meet in order to be designated a diver watch.

Pilot watch, however, does not have such consensus.

I wonder: could a such-and-such watch be defined in this way?

>An X watch is a watch that, in addition to telling the time, is designed with the occupational requirements and hazards in mind.

Thus, a 'pilot' watch would be one that, in addition to telling the time, is designed to be easily legible, and can include extra functions like a slide-rule bezel or a GMT function that are both beneficial to pilots.

A 'Divers' watch is one that, in addition to telling the time, is designed specifically to be water resistant and highly legible, with additional features such as a graduated uni-directional bezel, screw down crowns, etc.

We can always add that 'Divers watches can follow the guidelines of design by ...(is it ASOS)? You know what I mean.

Same way that COSC certification has it's own rules different from Master Chronometer or Superlative Chronometer..

>>15405922
>Superlative Chronometer
that's just more Rolex marketing bullshit

Oh baby, too bad it's $330.

>>15405834
>>15405855
just as a last test, heres a pic from the actual listing. everything looks pretty good (yes, I know the hands have yellowed slightly. I like that) but if anyone can spot anything else suss feel free to let me know.
to my knowledge as well there isn't really any decent fakes of the midsize. I'm sure someone could correct me if I'm wrong

It's up, boys.

https://youtu.be/ggbqdDY7g3M

>>15405964
Yeah, even so for a watch to be called a 'chronometer' it has to pass some kind of certification, right? The point is, it's the same issue with dive watches.

The problem that I see down the road is that the average person who comes here won't be wishing for the hard distinction to be made because members of the watch community tend to have different boundaries that distinguish watches. To me, a pilot watch is a flieger (A or B) or a combination of chronograph + bezel complication (GMT or Slide Rule). But someone else might include things like the 1963 Seagull (which is technically a watch made for pilots in the Chinese Air Force) but doesn't fit the description. The average person who knows nothing about watches except Swatch will not care if there is a distinction, but they'll want to join in the conversation and understand what we mean by, 'well, it's not a bad pilot's watch, but there are better options for you...'. Same goes for dive watches, or dress watches.

Dress watches in fact have their own problems of definition. Some traditions suggest a dress watch as being made of a precious metal (i.e Gold), have only the minute and hour hands, and a leather strap. Then some might allow a small-seconds subdial, or a bracelet. Some might even allow a single complication in addition to the small seconds (moonphase). This definition obviously changes with the decade, and since no one today cares, the term 'dress watch' really just encompasses a wide variety of watches that are expensive but with simple aesthetic lines.

What do you Anons think?

>I would wear this to dinner...

>>15405922
The problem with that definition is that "pilot watches" are not, and never have been, of use to pilots. The slide rule bezel is a joke, an invention of Breitling's marketing people rather than something pilots actually wanted, and a tiny chronograph isn't much better. The only thing that's actually useful is a GMT display, which is why the Rolex GMT was the result of an actual airline going to a watch company looking for a pilot's tool watch, and why modern pilot tool watches look like pic related rather than the insane clusterfucks that are normally marketed as "pilot watches."

>>15405974
I don't see anything obviously wrong with it. That being said, you mentioned that it was serviced recently (with paperwork to prove it). I'd hazard a guess it wasn't serviced by Omega, because they would have replaced the second hand (for the red tip), the bezel and bezel insert, the crowns, as well as polished up the bracelet, in addition to the interior work.

I'd suggest you make room in your budget for a servicing from your trusted watchmaker or even sending it to Omega. I've had brick-and-mortar owners lie to my face about watches being serviced when they weren't, so just be prepared.

Since Omega keeps on increasing their prices to service, as well as not selling replacement parts to independent watchmakers, I thought it best to service the Mark 40 when it arrived from Japan immediately. Keep it in the back of your mind.

Thoughts?

>>15405999
Correction. You wrote:

>It's also been serviced by Omega ast year and comes with the receipts for that

That's a shit-tonne of damage to accumulate in a single year Anon. Either the owner wears it on rollercoasters for their day job (in the sun for 8 hours a day, 7 days a week to fade out the red second hand tip) or they might not be telling the whole truth.

When watches come back from Omega, they come back 'like new'. It's rare for them to agree to not repair or polish the case and hands.

>my Seamaster after service

>>15405999
>>15406002
Another correction:
I looked at some of the pics you posted in the previous thread; the red-tipped second hand looks fine. Dismiss my concern about that.

The scratches and shit on the case and bracelet though are of note. While it's not impossible for someone to treat their watch this way, it really does require someone horsing about with their watch to accumulate that kind of damage in a year. Did you get any pics of the crown and H valve? Do they look new/recently replaced? It's Omega standard procedure to replace those, always.

>>15405999
>>15406002
I'm a moron, I just checked the back and forth; it was serviced (movement only) by an independent watchmaker.
I don't mind the used condition. I am slightly worried it could be fake, but judging from the pictures it doesn't appear to be. He agreed to send me pictures of the serial number above the 7 o clock lug before he ships it.
I'm just re-examining the clasp and does it look off to you? Maybe I'm paranoid, idk

>>15406009
It doesn't look off to me, but you have to make sure you're comparing it to the bracelets of other mid-size Seamasters. That being said, the clasp is normally 'brushed' stainless steel as opposed to polished, which is why it might look strange in the pic.

I think you'll be fine, but don't take it in the water unless you've had your watchmaker examine it.

>>15406021
true, well I was likely going to see if the newer micro-adjustment clasps would fit on the bracelet anyway.

this is now an omega thread
post your omegas

>>15406030
https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/smp-mid-size-replacement-clasp.4989867/

Check that thread, it might be useful (it's from 2018 though). It seems like it's a pain because you need specific parts to make it work, and Omega tends to make it more difficult to do just that. How were you going to do it? (does your watchmaker have a connection?)

>>15406038
Okay...

>>15406042
here's my lume brother

>>15406042
Love it. That's one thing that Omega consistently gets right...their lume. Granted, if/when>>15406009 gets his Semenmaster, his lume will blow the shit out of ours if it still holds the charge.

How's the Master Chronometer working for you? Keeping good time? I've always been impressed by their testing requirements, but I haven't bought one yet.

>>15406042
True, hadn't looked that far ahead. A guy has it on his mid size here:
https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/what-omega-watches-have-people-used-adjustable-clasp-117stz001154-on.3609002/page-9#lg=thread-3609002&slide=5
I'll be taking it straight to an Omega boutique before I consider any clasp options lol, I know they do a certificate but do they do an authentication on the spot or nah?

>>15406073
I don't honestly know, but I'd like to check with you for clarification.
>I know they do a certificate
Do you mean the one for authenticity and tracing the history of the watch? If so, it's a little expensive (maybe 600USD or so) and somewhat useless unless you plan on reselling the watch. As for
>an authentication on the spot
I'm not sure about this, as I've never taken in an Omega that I've suspected of being a forgery. Usually you can tell by the movement and opening up the caseback; the Omega 1120 has been faked before I'm sure, as it's a common ETA ebauche, but the fakes in the past usually haven't gone to the trouble of making it one-to-one.

If you wanted an authentication, I'd assume there would be a fee. And being a betting man, I'd say that the fee for an independent watchmaker to establish authenticity would likely be far lower than for Omega to do it.

Remember the watch you're getting; it's pre-coaxial standard 1120 movement. Fakes from this period (i.e. mid-90s to 2000s) tended to have shit movements inside, but given the case and hardware that I can see it seems like your watch is legit. It would be a genuine surprise (to my dismay, of course) if the movement inside were a cheap chinese shitter, so I think you're fine taking it to Omega if you wanted to.

I'd only take it to them if I wanted it pressure tested for diving or for a complete service. Anything else can be done by a trusted watchmaker for a fraction of the cost. As for the clasp options, if you buy from Omega directly it'll be very expensive (3--500USD range depending on what). What a lot of us do is buy Hirsch straps (the company is rumored to supply Omega, Breitling, and Panerai amongst others) and switch out the bracelet when we feel like it. I know that doesn't help your micro-adjustment clasp wish, but it might be a stopgap while you save money to buy it from Omega directly, seeing as parts are more and more difficult to come by on the open market.

>>15405766
Bring this back you fucking nips

Sbgh037

>>15406111
bring back the most soulless GS there is? brother there are hundreds of better models than this
having your own name printed on the watch 3 times is not soul btw

>>15406115
This has more soul than modern clown dial bullshit

>>15405808
why is that women's watch sideways?

>>15406111

>>15406122
>better-finished seiko 5 has soul
>>15406123
it's a driving watch, meant so you can read the time while your hand is in driving position. in reality it's just an autistic larp that happens to look pretty unique and interesting

>>15405766
I give up, watchbros. I've enjoyed learning about them, but the money you have to spend is just not something I'm willing to do for a wristwatch. I'd rather go have a fun vacation somewhere than have an "entry level" mid range watch. Maybe if my priorities change someday I'll be back. Cya bros.

>>15406145
based, I wish I didn't care so much about such a frivolous hobby

>>15406145
Safe travels Anon. We all have our hobbies, our personal luxuries, and for some people travel and life experience are what make them happy.

If you do come back to watches of any kind, consider them as tools that may remind you of human ingenuity, mathematical and scientific brilliance, and the remarkable autism necessary to quantify something that in our experience is continuous and ever-changing. Watches are not really 'entry level', any more than they are 'mid-range'. Watches are watches, and if you wear one that makes you happy with its performance and its aesthetic appeal, then you win, regardless of price.

I've never owned a watch above mid-tier (and I include the Rolex GMT in this); they all were either mass-produced or easily available at the time, and they all brought me happiness in some way. But what I've found is that I have tended to gravitate towards the ones that just make me happy regardless of their reputation in the industry or their engineering. Perhaps that's the point really...you 'collect' until you find what makes you happy...then you're done.

>>15406148
Ditto the above.

Post titanium watches.

citizen OR seiko?

god watch "reviews" are so fucking terrible.
they don't review the watch, they just describe it and say positive things about it. any watch "review" will make a watch seem like a 10/10.
are there any watch reviews that absolutely clown on them? I want a review of a multi-thousand dollar watch that points out its flaws and calls it shit for the price.

>>15405766
Grail.

>>15406194
>thickness: 1.73 meters

>>15406192
This is an Idea for a youtube Channel
Go make some money
Don't be too harsh though, they'll pay hitmans to get your ass

>>15406192
Unless the reviewer buys the watch with their own money that will never happen. If a reviewer gave a bad review that brand or even the entire group will never loan that person another watch again to review, so the reviewer would have no content.

Just look at Hodinkee, they have never give a bad review in their life because they now sell those brand watches.

>>15406179
>pic related...the only titanium watch I ever owned.

>>15406187
Citizen for the aesthetics, Seiko for the technology.

>>15406192
A lot of the watch channels rely on either companies or businesses to send them watches to review, so shitting on the watches usually discourages brands from being associated with the YouTuber. It's another form of 'access media' that film reviewers complain about.

>>15406145
>>15406159
Just get a tag f1

>>15406213
>>15406211
I wasn't asking "why" they did it this way. I understand they're at the mercy of watch companies to do this. I'm curious why they're called "reviews" if they're basically just sponsored demonstrations.
Just get people to loan you their personal watches for some kickback from the video and you can mog the watches as much as you want. It's a breath of fresh air in this stuffy-ass industry anyways. Imagine clicking a video that says:
>we give the Air-King 2/5 for its lack of individuality and high asking price given alternate options in the same price bracket. The extra point comes from the rolex crown, which guarantees at least a modest resale value, which you'll want to take advantage of once you're tired of this watch after just a month

>>15406179

watchbrehs is this a good option for my first big boy watch? Right now I have an F91W and a shiny Fossil I wear to weddings.

https://www.amazon.ca/Seiko-SNE495-Solar-Black-Leather/dp/B07MT93Y7Z/ref=sr_1_17?crid=2D0KE2SHHJGX1&dchild=1&keywords=seiko&qid=1594868010&refinements=p_n_material_browse%3A2305044011&rnid=2305041011&s=watch&sprefix=sei%2Caps%2C251&sr=1-17

>>15406222
I can imagine it. I can imagine their site or channel producing one review and are never seen again.

>>15406222
do watch companies accept returns? what's stopping me from buying a new watch, doing a review, and returning it after the day is up?
I know they'll catch on eventually but then I just go to a different AD. or actually ADs don't give a fuck what the brand heritage is

>>15406229
why? what's stopping them from doing this? rolex can't shut them down just because their feelings got hurt

>>15406227
>big boy watch
>about one day's minimum-wage salary
you probably have shoes that cost almost this price. and even if you don't, you have 2 pairs that cost this price. yet you get a watch once and keep it for years

>>15406240
I am a min wagecuck.

>>15406222
It would be hilarious, no doubt, but unfortunately it's not possible because the luxury watch industry is dying, and because it is dying, the media around it tends to go universally positive because of several factors that are all interlinked.

You have the YT reviews being all positive, like we mentioned, but you also have things like Baselworld which also never really critique things, they just showcase them. You have boutiques where the lovely lady in the skirt shows you JLCs and Vacherons, never critiquing one or the other but subtly gauging the reaction on your face as you try one on, going 'positive' when your eyes light up because one fits better on your wrist, and going 'negative' when one is clearly lower in price and thus 'may not be as good a fit' as the more expensive model.

You see the same in other dying industries; as soon as people stop spending money on things like this en masse, they companies can't afford bad press of any kind, so the circle feeds itself.

Reviews are just as you describe: sponsored demonstrations. If critique is to be made, it's supposed to be made in private to the company, not in public. That beings said, doesn't 'man on the motherfucking moon' bitch and complain about watches all the time? He gives 'reviews' of a sort...

>>15406233
You take a hit when you return; as soon as you walk out the store, you'll see at least a 10% drop, but depending on the model it could be higher. So ultimately you'll lose money...just to say what people think but don't say.

>>15406238
Yeah, but Rolex would never be hurt by a review on YT; normies would think the reviewer is having a sour-grapes moment rather than the watch actually being awful, because 'Rolex is King'.

>>15406227
I think it's fine. Have you tried one on in a store yet? Do so before purchasing. You only know if a watch works for you if you see it on your wrist. For all you know, it could look 'too big', 'too small', or simply weird.

>>15406257
I mean obviously most reviews are positive because most products people push out are positive. my overly-critical review was kind of a meme. the ultra-negative could be reserved for shit like vincero, or MVMT.
however, I feel like "honest luxury" is a niche that isn't really filled. and something that I, as a watch owner, would really appreciate.

>>15406238
Unless a reviewer gets watches to review they can't produce content people want to see. They wouldn't be shut down but why would anyone spend thousands of bucks to buy a watch to produce a video for a tiny amount of viewers with no monetary return.

That is unlike say book reviews where you can find YT channels where you get honest reviews that rip books or authors to shreds because it only cost the reviewer $5 to buy the book.

>>15406273
yeah but what if you review things that are either cheap or can be borrowed from other people/viewers/etc..
just because it isn't currently done shouldn't mean it's impossible to do.

>>15406211
Hodinkee were hilariously pathetic when the Code 11:59 came out. Every where on the internet was destroying it but they went out of their way to say nothing bad because it would upset their mates at AP.

>>15406281
to build on this, I can imagine becoming partners with an AD who lends you the watches to review, but isn't named in the video (so they maintain the relationship with their companies). they give you the watches to review, you split the video revenue. nobody knows it's them

>>15406281
> what if you review things that are either cheap or can be borrowed from other people/viewers/etc
So like Archie kind of does but he's not a great example because he's more interested in shouting loudly and being his obnoxious character rather than giving proper reviews.

>>15406290
never watched an archie video but I guess yeah. just have a bunch of good connections with watches who don't care what you say about them because they'll make a few hundos from a youtube video

>>15406287
> I can imagine becoming partners with an AD who lends you the watches to review
Isn't that how Jenni gets most of her watches? She's actually the closest I've seen anyone come to criticising a watch, but it's still pretty mild.

>>15406270
Well, consider what you're asking for. In order to fulfill your wishes, the reviewer would have to establish a few things:
1) Definition of luxury, either by price or by specific quality vectors.
2) Definition of 'honest', and how to represent this in the review.

Both of these have problems. No. 2 is nearly impossible to verify, so you have to trust the reviewer. But No. 1 is even worse. What is luxury, as a price-point, and what should it be compared to? How does one compare finishing, or movement accuracy and precision, or feel on the wrist, or aesthetic beauty in design and use of materials? Then even if you find a way to compare these things, will your conclusions match with the expectations of your audience?

Finally, how do you put a price-point on something like a mechanical watch? Are you paying for R+D for the movement? Price of testing the movement before and after casing? Materials, design, and then performance; can you put a price point on them?

You will need these kinds of things just to be able to set a bar that makes sense to an audience, so that if you say that something 'isn't worth the money', you can explain precisely why. The problem with luxury watches is that they are a luxury; they're unnecessary, and there are better alternatives to actually tell time, so this means that no watch over 3.50$ is a bargain.

Because of this, comparisons fall apart, and you end up where we are: all watches are awesome if you're personally enthusiastic about the watch. Sure, Rolex charges an arm and a leg. Sure, you'll never get a 'proper' tourbillon for under 100,000$. That's not great value. But does the watch make you happy? Well, that's another story, isn't it?

Watches are not universal commodities like potatoes. They're technological objects offered by the makers, at the price they command (like Apple products) That's all; if you want in, you pay the price.

>Or you do what I do: buy secondhand and service it.

>>15406300
exactly. but she advertises her AD in the video and I feel an AD wouldn't want to be associated with so much negative attention.
basically just doing the same thing but undisclosed so you can trash things. and then you augment it with a bunch of videos of cheap watches too so you're not just a hyper-luxury channel

>>15406308
Sorry, forgot a pic.

>overpriced to the max. But it's still beautiful to my eyes.

>>15406308
you're getting way too autistic. anything above a certain dollar point is "luxury" in most people's eyes. and I misspoke by saying "honest luxury" I guess "honest watches" is better since I think you'd need to include the cheap shitters to get good enough viewcounts. and because it would be fun to just completely tear them apart.
>can you put a price point on them?
for everything you said the answer is obviously no but you can consider them. this is why honesty is needed; just because a company spends millions of dollars on the 11.59 doesn't mean it looks good. they wasted it. and people deserve to know.

>>15406192
pic related boomer is pretty close to what an "independent" reviewer should be
pros
> just a retired guy with an engineering background
> no AD sponsors
> doesn't shill any "premium" straps
> buys watches from his own pocket
> does his research before buying
> goes to the AD to try it out first
> knows how to repair a watch
cons
> doesn't fuck ladyboys
he's like a wholesome archie

>>15406319
>way too autistic
That's what happens when I'm drunk..it comes with the package. Tearing apart shitty watches is unnecessary because the average person can do that. Do you think people buy Fossil watches for the horological merit? They buy them because the watch will match their outfit for a few months. It's disposable shit, like Swatch. There's no challenge in that.

To make a 'dent' in the industry, you'd have to review everything 15grand and up essentially, including independents. Then you'd have to find a way to compare what you're critiquing so that it wouldn't sound as if you're just throwing out groundless opinions, and you'd have to offer alternatives or ways to improve the problems.

For a moment, I'll give you a review of my own.
>I hate the Lange Zeitwerk, in all its iterations, and I've hated it since they came out with it. While the technology has merit, it has serious drawbacks due to the power required for the number wheels, which over time will affect the accuracy and performance. Furthermore, the aesthetic appeal is lacking both in size, proportion, and layout of the dial; this is glaringly obvious when the Zeitwerk is compared with any of the other models, from the simple Saxonia even to the oddly proportioned Ein-und-dreisig. Perhaps Lange should stick to their origins.

Now, I know that fans of Lange love this watch, even people I know in person. I know that it's been a successful model for them. I still hate it. It's ugly as shit, and not worth the price in my eyes. How can I justify what I said above? The finishing is just as good as their other watches...the attention to detail as immaculate. I simply hate the design and think it's should be priced lower.

Is there any justification for my thoughts, or is it just me being an ass for the sake of being an ass?

>pic is the best Lange. Prove me wrong!

>>15406030
>>15406042
>>15406073

I have the adjustable clasp on both my speedy and seamaster, go to an ad with no on site watchmaker (100% non rolex ad). Your looking for an ad with no omegas in store, online on their website.

They will most likely not know the omega rules on part swapping.

>>15406358
My watchmaker could do it. But the problem I'm talking about is the actual ability to get the part in the first place. That's where things are getting difficult. Omega stopped selling their parts to independents a few years ago, so for movements if it's a generic off shoot (like Lemania, ETA, or Valjoux) then you can replace with generic parts, but for things like the co-axial, it becomes a problem.

With regard to cases, crystals, bracelets, etc., it all depends on if your watchmaker has the parts already in stock. If they had to order it, that's where the problem would begin.

How does one get the part to swap? That's the challenge.

>>15406257
>I think it's fine. Have you tried one on in a store yet? Do so before purchasing. You only know if a watch works for you if you see it on your wrist. For all you know, it could look 'too big', 'too small', or simply weird.
Everything in this commie province is still closed.

>>15406448
Then wait until it opens. No sense making a 147CAD potential mistake. Right now you can do some research and find out who sells it instore so you can try one on in person.

Even for watches of this price-range, it saves you money in the long run.

>hope things open up for you soon Anon...

>>15406001
I don't know about that, but goddamn do I love nutella. I know it's basically chocolate in a jar, but it has the goodness of hazelnuts and like 15 cups of milk in every container. Whatever the fuck it is, it provides me with the energy I need to start my day. Sometimes I put it on toast with a little bit of brown sugar and cinammon, but believe it or not I sometimes stir it into some vanilla yogurt too. Try that shit. It's also great on strawberries, melons and peaches. It's remarkably low calorie and delicious as fuck. If I had one wish, it would be to visit the nutella factory to see how exactly they make this magic happen. Holy shit I'm now craving nutella like a motherfucker. The open jar is just about empty, but I have another half dozen downstairs in the cellar. Got the lot of them for $15.99 at Costco, which might seem steep until you price it out. That's less than three dollars a jar. When the chinese finally lose their shit and launch the nukes, I'm going to be sitting pretty, because I'll be chilling in my basement watching That 70's Show on DVD and mowing down on some delicious, life-sustaining nutella. Anyway, that monroe girl looks pretty good I guess, but you've got to admit she'd look a whole lot better slathered in nutella. Thanks for listening, Geoff.

>>15406349
You must be wasted. No one can hate the Zeitwerk.

Has Omega every come up with something on their own? No hate, just asking.

>co-axial
Daniels
>liquid metal
Some university.
>ceramic
lolex did it first
>speedy movement
Lemania

>>15406475
I always have...the numbers are too far apart so it looks like it has some kind of genetic deficiency. It's not appealing to my eyes at all.
Anyway, my point is not that I will always find the watch hideous...it's that I could go on a rant about it as a 'review' and there's little one could do to either support it and likewise it would take nothing at all to tear it apart.

That's why in my view watch 'reviews' can't really exist, because no matter what modern watches are so far away from the actual cost of producing them that the idea of 'value' needs to be thrown out the window on the onset. The secondary market proves this point.

>>15406483
I find asymmetric dials and open face dials to be abhorrent. So no matter how much I like Lange that watch makes me disgusted. However that isn't a review, that is personal preference.

Is nixon trash for casual wear?

>>15406477
I have no idea Anon. Maybe their technology for producing the Master Chronometers?

>>15406489
I understand; the proportions of the subdials is what attracts my eye. But that's the beauty of watches; they appeal to some, but not to all. The details have the same distribution, which is why it's very tough to find objective reasons why a watch design is shit/amazing.

>>15406502
Nixon? Post a pic to prove you're not a crook.

>>15406510
Oye, forgot to add to my previous post.

>silicon hairspring
Joint effort of several companies.

>>15406213
>Seiko for the technology.
lol no

>>15406477
Movable balance stud (1959)
"Omegametric" (balance/hairspring pairing) (1962)
Single-barrel alarm watch (1968)
Independent hour hand and 1-second corrector(1970)

Why is it that the Japs seem to make the best digital shitters?

>>15406510

>>15406556
autist race makes the best autist watches

>>15406556
What's the model number?

>>15406401

I haven't looked into the mid size fit honestly, mine is the 41mm. Your half right about the parts, braclets and braclets parts are available, no problem walk into any ad order your part ref but they will want your watch ref, >>15406358 will get you around that issue, I had issues getting clasps as on side watchmakers knew omega doesn't like part swapping (avoid watchmakers) that's why alot of guys get turned down when ordering an adjustable clasp. I only bought a clasp like 4 months ago from an ad.

Straight fit for the Seamaster you just need the clasp, speedy needs 2 x end links to fit the clasp, think I paid £180ish a clasp and £40 of each end link.

>>15406591
Just search seiko digital tuna

>>15406619
Thanks for helping Anon; I learn something new everyday. Cheers and good morning.

>>15405766
>In For Servicing Edition
My soviet pegend is away for a service and according to tracking, I borked the address. Wish me luck!
However...
BOCTOK’s back, alright!
Dumm dummdummdummdummdumm
Throw you hands up I the air
Or something
Took only 18 days from Siberia to Austria! The red is really bold, and fuck me, that thing feels heavy, but I like it.
Also, is this because kommandoerskis are their expensive line, or did they generally improve? The crown is milled and the bracelet is much better than the one on my Amphibia.

>>15406556
I want one so bad (almost as bad as the Arnie) but there’s no way I can pull off that diner plate.
Very tempted to just order a steeldive tuna for ~100, so that I know it won’t work and I won’t have to torture myself thinking about them daily.

>>15406475
>why yes, I love to wear a hockey puck on my arm

This orange planet ocean 2500 put an end to my nasty perpetual flipping habits. It's the only watch I wore for the last ~3 years and I just fucking love it.

Is Audemars Piguet the greatest watch brand of our time?

their watches are worn and loved by esteemed pillars of society. This is true haute horologerie

My gf offered to get me a watch for our engagement. Her budget is $5000 and I'm looking for something dressy (I mean I'm wearing it at our wedding) and versatile enough to be worn with a jean or a chino.
Preferably two tone, as I will get a gold ring vut I still wear steel, mostly.
Also, I have a smallish wrist at 6"5.
Right now my options seem to be a two tone datejust 36, a Cartier Santos galbée, a tudor BB58 and a quartz Grand Seiko.

Is there anything notable I'm missing beyond these absolute normie models ?

>>15406556
Because they are the only ones who bother doing them, with the chinese. It's like saying Canada makes the best poutine.

God I want one of these so bad. I don't care how gaudy it is

>>15406725
No bicolor.

>>15406211

Perhaps. But maybe not. I know within the makeup artist YouTube circles, they give shit reviews all the time. And these are big accounts with over 1mil subscribers -- they'll outright say that they wouldn't purchase a product or that it isn't good or that they don't like this or that. And the brands are okay with that feedback and continue to send kits to those MUAs.

Obviously, makeup is less expensive than watches (though some makeup is expensive as fuck). But still. Being "real" isn't always a bad thing.

>>15406729
>why yes I do want wearing a spaceship on my wrist

>>15406729
It's absolutely hideous, and that fucking black-outlined lettering is the vomit-inducing cherry on top.

>>15406738
Thanks for your opinion, but I'll stick to baby-tier advice for another occasion.
I know how and why I want to wear a two-tone.

Hey guys recommend me a watch

>Your budget

<€500

> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot

Dressy pilot, something that I can also wear formally

> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz

Automatic

> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone

Don't really care as long as it's classified as a pilot. 30m WR should be enough for splashing.

> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet

Leather

> Wrist size or desired watch size

Wrist size is 17cm (6 3/4 inches) so 38-40mm should be perfect.

>>15406840
Laco Augsburg 39mm

>>15406716
>esteemed pillars of society
Hoodrats?

>>15406725
>two tone
How about something classy instead? JLC Master Control, JLC Reverse (maybe engrave something on the back), Cartier Tank, Omega Aqua Terra, grand seiko snowflake

>>15406725
>two tone
Yikes, don't make that mistake. You're not Bateman and it looked dumb even 20 (40) years ago. Unless of course you are more than 60 years old.

>>15406861

>How about something classy instead?
There is a thin line between too blingy and just blingy enough.
Plus I already have an old Calavatra homage for a gold dress watch.

>$5000 budget
>JLC, GS snowflake

I considered the Tank, but my gf just doesn't like it.
And "classy" is not a term that comes to my mind when I see an Aqua Terra. (Or any modern Omega, by the way.)

It's not an Omega, but it'll do.

>>15406892
5 identical Vostoks!

>>15406725
This looks terrible, get an Omega Constallation instead.

>>15406851
Yes, this is good. Any other alternatives?

Might have to change the strap to something dressier

>>15406145
>I give up, watchbros. I've enjoyed learning about them, but the money you have to spend is just not something I'm willing to do for a wristwatch. I'd rather go have a fun vacation somewhere than have an "entry level" mid range watch. Maybe if my priorities change someday I'll be back. Cya bros.
Same but I'm too old to have hopes of "making it" later in life. I just like watches so much, it's just the right kind of autistic physical "hobby" for me. And I'll never have a decent one in my life. I really don't know what to do, it's my main interest and every thought I can have about it, now that I realized that I'm out of its price range or class if you will, is just depressing.

>>15406939
>>15406145
there is literally nothing wrong with only owning sub $500 watches. You can appreciate workhorses and vintages. Material possessions cant buy you real happiness anyway. People with $2000 watches will envy those with $10000 watches and so forth. Its only a distraction from the mortal coil of life.

>>15406949
>Material possessions cant buy you real happiness anyway.
Ok I'll take your stuff then, want my paypal or how shall we do this?

>>15406923
What about San Martin? Great specs.

>>15406980
it literally can't. The dopamine of a new purchase sharply decreases over time. Its only a bandaid. If you are truly depressed, unfulfilled or have other stressors in life no amount of watches or cars or clothes will make you happy. If material goods really made people happy why do they keep buying new shit all the time instead of getting happiness from the 20 pairs of sneakers they already own?

>>15406985
Not him, but 42mm dial could be too much.

>>15407001
its 39mm though.

>>15406989
>>it literally can't.
Yeah it can, I'd be much happier if I could move out of a 15sqft room, and if I could afford proper food and not the shit I have to eat, and if I could afford new clothes so that I don't look like trash to everyone, and if I could afford to fix my teeth, and so on. So, paypal then?

>>15406145
>>15406939
Here we go again...
>>15406980
Nope, that’s not how it works.
All the things that make me happy haven’t been bought with money (family, friends etc) but money just makes shit easier, so I’m not giving it away for some neet.
Get a job, you useless punk!

>>15407009
You really gotta tell us which 3rd world shithole you’re living in.
You’re also the faggot screaming
>everyone who’s someone in my country has an expensive watch
Every second thread or so.

>>15407009
but then you will suffer in self respect because you essentially became a beggar.

and those are not reallly material goods, but just alleviation of basic needs like food and health. You cant eat watches.

>>15407017
>You cant eat watches.
Uhhhh, that one shitty YouTuber probably begs to differ!

>>15406949
>Material possessions cant buy you real happiness anyway
The watch I currently own was my grail and I haven't wanted another one since.
It's the only one I wear now.
every morning I wind it, it makes me happy.
I still like looking at other watches and am into watches but I never consider buying them.

I'm not a materialistic person otherwise,but maybe it's the career milestones I connect to buying the watch or the fact I had to hunt it down and get it from a private collector.

>>15407022
> The watch I currently own was my grail and I haven't wanted another one since.
It's the only one I wear now.

I can second that.

Whats your grail watch, anon?

>>15407022
>The watch I currently own was my grail
If you own it then it's not a grail. What watch?

>>15406918
This may be the worst Omega design, and this is quite a feat.

>>15407009
It all reads like a series of excuses for being a crybaby.

>>15407024
>>15407027

>>15407037
A Lange. Nice one! Congratulations.

They're increasing in price as well, which can only be a bonus.

>>15407009
>15sqft room
That’s a less than 4 by 4 feet room, so just a tad over a meter. Let’s assume it’s not square, so let’s make it 5 x 3. That’s a fucking (manlet) coffin, so I’m not gonna believe you (unless you’re a time traveler from Kowloon).

>>15407037
Wouldn’t say ‘No’ ngl.
But how about the rest of your life? Was it all shit and that watch magically brough you happiness, or ist it just an extra on an already enjoyable life?

>>15407017
Everyone is a beggar by that definition so I really don't care?

>>15407045
Clearly a dude buying a Lange was living in the gutter eating rats and earthworms.

>>15407088
achieving self reliance is very different from actually asking for money from internet strangers.

>>15407088
>Literally asks for money
>"Everyone is a beggar by that definition"

Please think a little more before posting.

Omega? More like omega shitter

>>15406906
clean Rolex

>>15406270
What about Archie?

>>15406729
Is that all clear plastic?

>>15407182
Is Seiko the reddit watch?

>>15407211
The case is machined sapphire, so I guess Seiko is /ourwatch/ now.

>>15405843
These are in my opinion the classic pilot/flieger designs. They should be easy to read and no tachymeter or other crap, that's more of a racing chronograph.

BOOM WATCHFAG!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZAl0GMJnrVw

>>15405843
Honestly, "pilot" is probably the most ambiguous style too so that doesn't help. Especially nowadays when it can describe two completely different types of designs
>classic flieger/military pilot
Very simple face designs with big lumed hands, very quick to read. You're supposed to check them in a very quick glance before going back to your stick and trigger. Almost minimalist in design, no frills, no unnecessary complexities.
>modern pilot
basically the Breitling style. These are no longer designed for pilots who hop onto single-seater planes strapped for fuel and with no interior lighting but for commercial pilots who change timezones all the time and go on 10+ hours flights. They no longer need precise chronographs since their fuel tanks are massive, but they do need GMT complications, world timezones, that sort of stuff. They contain a lot more information and no longer need to be as easy to read.

>>15407249
GMT/world timezones have become more of a ''travel watch'', since it's not just pilots who fly around the world regularly.
A pilot watch may be an outdated concept, but if you talk about a specific design they should follow the same design cues, which aren't that ambiguous if you follow the historical development see >>15407220
.

>>15407099
No one is self reliant in the modern world so I don't care?
>>15407101
Yeah no shit you have to ask if you're not already getting it? You asked for money from your boss at some point too.

>>15407276
are you dumb? having a wage is compensation for labour, time and/or skill

its not the same as asking for money without giving anything in return, aka a beggar

>>15407273
That was kind of my point though : these historical development completely ignore just about all of aviation since the late 50s with the growth of commercial aviation and the change of standards in that industry and its needs.
So unless you're going to say that tool watches for pilots aren't "pilot watches" due to differences in styling, then the term is going to stay ambiguous.
also
GMT/world timezones have become more of a ''travel watch'', since it's not just pilots who fly around the world regularly.
Let's be honest here, that's true for every type of watch that started as a tool watch.
How many Submariners do you think are actually taken underwater?

>>15407037
*sigh* unzip ...

>>15407227
>watch youtubers
Gonna be a yikes from me

>>15406556
Where can I cop one of these?

Have any of you changed dial on your Rolex?

>>15407281
>are you dumb? having a wage is compensation for labour, time and/or skill
Yeah not like you know anyone who just goes to a cushy office job that he got through nepotism and plays WoW all day or shit like that, right? That NEVER EVER happens.

>>15407346
>WAAH LIFE IS UNFAIR
>waah why cant I have what this *small amount of lucky people* have

god you are fucking pathetic. Yes life is unfair and inequality exists. But there has never been a better time in history to be able to lift yourself out of poverty, since the Internet exists. You can learn lots of new skills, be a content creator or literally do anything to improve your situation or future job prospects but you are just whining like a bitch instead. Nobody owes you anything, bud.

>>15407382
>be a content creator
What percentage of "content creators" earn a living wage, and who is financing the rest of them? And why do you think everyone you talk to online is a histrionic psychopath?

>>15407292
Well, I'm not interested in relativism. I think it's easy enough to call a spade a spade so to speak and if it ventures to far away from that, call it "inspired", "hybrid" or "modern". I'd call Omega x-33 a modern pilot watch.
A navitimer or similar with added bullshit hard to read printing is more of a caricature of a pilot watch.

Calling a GMT a travel watch is marketing so you can sell a 'life style', because everyone needs a GMT for their two weeks vacation abroad. And GMT doesn't have to follow the same design cues at all as a pilot watch.
It's a function/complication, not a style.

>>15407382
>But there has never been a better time in history to be able to lift yourself out of poverty
lol

>>15407412
>What percentage of "content creators" earn a living wage
those who persist and put in effort do. Theres a video market for anything and everything. And im not just talking about youtube. You can literally learn how to make sound effects, 3D models, or editing videos/photos, how to code or a myriad of other skills FOR FREE on youtube or other sites and then sell your skills to other people or a future employer.

>>15407415
>thinking this isnt true
if you were born as a peasant or even just lower class in medival europe or anywhere in the world in past history you would have near 0 chances of upward mobility, if disease and war didnt kill you already.

>>15406700
Hevy is gud, hevy is reliabl.

>>15406725
Two-tone is only for sleazy used car salesmen.

>>15407276
>You asked for money from your boss at some point too.
Yup. And I made him an offer of what I’d bring to his business in exchange for that money.
So what are you going to offer me for, let’s say $10?

>>15406716
>one trick pony
>MUH HOLY TRINITY
Yup, Patek, Vacheron and JLC. The one you posted looks like a fucking toy watch lmao

>>15407220
Hol up, there are other options as well.
RAF 6B/159 Omegas and Longines. Stowa Marine would be a fitting modern alternative.

Continued in next post.

>>15407429
Iz tru. But 420 case as reliabl, but more light.

>pilot watches aren’t defined
But they are! The autistic Germans at Sinn even invented an international standard for it, by which you can get your watch certified so that it is an official pilots watch!
(I don’t know any brand besides Sinn that does so, but that’s besides the point)
Phoneposting, so too lazy to dig up a link.

>>15407441
Also Czech military issue cushion case Eterna, Lemania or Longines (who make a re-edition as well) Bulova UHF for a quartz option.

>>15407451
I think the Damasko DC56 was issued, but that might have been a publicity stunt.

>>15407440
Actually to be fair to AP they make many other models other than the Royal Oak. The problem is they simply don't sell.

>>15407425
>those who persist and put in effort do
Are rich Americans really this delusional?

>>15407479
The Ghastly Virgin made a video about watches worn by famous gangsters. The actual text was a 1-1 readout of a 2y/o article of the same theme. He even used some of the pictures.

>>15407451
>Germans at Sinn even invented an international standard for it, by which you can get your watch certified so that it is an official pilots watch!
This is pretty damn hilarious considering they aren't regulated so they'll be inaccurate even for mechanical watches, and they're mechanical and thus far more fragile than quartz.

>>15407479
>thinking im american
>thinking all americans are rich

there are literal 3rd worlders on youtube making exotic cooking shows and primative survival shows and all sorts of other nonsense and they have millions of subs.

there are videos of car cleaning, makeup, history discussions, dog grooming, fishkeeping, russian life, literally anything you can think of. There is no shortage of opportunity if you put in regular consistent effort, you just need not to be a lazy whiny bum making excuses all the time. Not even talking about the huge freelance market that gives you access to clients all over the world.

>>15407492
>there are literal 3rd worlders on youtube making exotic cooking shows and primative survival shows and all sorts of other nonsense and they have millions of subs.
What percentage of thirdworlders have this?

>>15407494
those who try, lmao
if mr tingwongmong from dalat vietnam can do it so can you. And dont give me that garbage about how they must be born into a rich family also. You already can speak English and have access to the internet so you literally have no excuses about why you arent at least upgrading your personal skillset and taking advantage of the free education and networking the online world has.

>>15407501
>those who try, lmao
So the ratio of people who try and succeed is 1:1?

>>15407505
success comes to those who try and try and try again. Its the same in every field. Do you think for example Tesla succeeded in making a viable working product from day one? or pewdiepie rocketed to #1 from the 1st video he made. You want all the success of others when you dont even fucking TRY

you are literally made of excuses. You are already self defeating before you even start. No wonder you are living in a fucking shoebox begging on money on 4chan of all places. You deserve the ridicule you are getting, because sometimes bums and utter losers need a rude awakening before they fix their own life. This is not the 1st time you have appeared here whining about your pathetic life and asking money from anons.

>>15406851
After some research, I think I'm gonna go with this. Thanks for the rec.

>>15407520
How many years do you think someone should stream for 0 viewers on twitch until giving up? Do you think they should do it until death or otherwise they're quitters, or?

>>15407533
if it doesnt work change the formula and try again
nobody is going to watch you if you have the personality of a toilet seat and suck at the game
both aspects (skill and personality) can be improved. Try various gimmicks. Ads can be bought. Things can be done. You can email more successful streamers and ask them for a collab or a feature or at least some advice.

im freelance and I literally have to send out hundreds of emails and only a small% reply back. But its not an excuse for not trying

Im not going to reply to you anymore since the thread has already been derailed to hell. You are just going around in circles looking for the easiest way out (aka an excuse)

>>15407543
>im freelance and I literally have to send out hundreds of emails and only a small% reply back. But its not an excuse for not trying
What would you do if it was zero, would you just kill yourself?

>>15407533
I made affiliate in three weeks, streaming less than two hours per day. Maybe try harder.

>>15407520
>Do you think for example Tesla succeeded in making a viable working product from day one?
If we're being honest, Tesla "succeeded" by basically swindling their investors and marketing their shares to people who had no experience in holding stocks and shares.
But that's besides the point.

>>15407211
>Is Seiko the reddit watch?
pretty sure that's the moon watch.

>>15406222
This is basically archieluxury paid reviews

>started dressing in warmer colors and rich earth tones
>belt buckles, sunglasses are now brass/gold
>gold watches are crazy stupid expensive
Why?

>>15407583
you can buy a gold coloured casio shitter for like $24.99

if you want actual gold its obviously expensive. The corona situation isnt helping either, since everyone is scared and hoarding gold. Although im not sure if price fluctuations affect the prices of already made products. If this keeps up it will def. affect future stuff, though

>>15407598
The price difference is fucking crazy. Like a gold watch with 2 oz of gold is 30k more than its steel equal. Advice for plated watches?

>>15407602
What's more crazy is that the platinum version would be $50k more despite the fact it's half the price of gold and has been for many years.

>>15407604
I really don’t get it.

>>15407604
>>15407610
platinum is a harder material (hardness and melting point almost twice as much as gold) and thus far more difficult to work with. Same reason in jewelry.

>>15407611
No, much more - who wants a platinum watch?

>>15407626
maybe cos they don't want a gold watch (too boomer, too tacky) but still want a "muh precious metals" luxury piece.

>>15407611
True but that does not come close to match the premium brands charge for platinum. The reason is simply tradition. Platinum used to be more expensive than gold and historically it was always seen as the metal of royalty. Combine that with the fact brands tend to only use it in their most exclusive and limited production watches.

I will admit though if you try on a platinum watch compared to a steel or even gold, the difference it extremely noticeable in how it feels on the wrist. It weighs and *feels* expensive.

>>15407640
Like I said, I don't get it. Like I fundamentally don't think I'd notice an oyster steel rolex vs a platinum rolex.

>>15407441
Pic related is a better example. But without the distinct bezel it's a rather general design dating back to pocket- and marine observation watches. Aviation being a new thing at the time and old designs were repurposed for it. The Germans made the first distinct pilot watch.
I left out the British and US ones because the line between field and pilot watch can be very vague. The models should be judged individually if they were issued to the air force.

>>15407455
These follow the upscaled field watch linage.

>>15407654
You certainly notice wearing it. The platinum daytona weighs twice as much as the steel version.

>>15406222
A few people could afford to get a lot of high end watch by themselves and express this kind of opinion.

They will never show their face and have no interest in doing so, though.

>>15407659
Not worth 50k in my opinion, but to each their own. So, gold plated watches...

>>15407249
>>15407292
>>15407414
As I mentioned in an earlier post, the modern Navitimer-style pilot watch was never really a practical pilot tool, more of a piece of quasi-functional jewelry for pilots who liked bling and non-pilots who wanted some of that aviation cool factor.

GMT is a different story, these days they get used by travelers or international business people as dual time watches, with the GMT hand set to whatever second time zone is relevant, but the intent for pilots is to actually be set to GMT, or more accurately UTC, which in aviation is known as "Zulu time" and is used in lieu of local time zones for most aviation tasks, weather reports are given in zulu, flight plans are filed in zulu, etc. This is actually still a useful complication because you generally won't have another source of accurate zulu time at hand, especially when reading briefings and planning flights on the ground, and a mistake in time conversion can have pretty serious consequences. (Like being on the hook for search and rescue if you mess up and file your arrival time too early and they think you crashed.)

The X-33 and Aerospace are probably the most functional pilot tool watches on the market nowadays and I'm planning on getting one or the other in a few years. Right now I fly with a Citizen Skyhawk, which has a lot of useless bullshit but has that critical UTC display and is just a pretty cool piece of pilot bling at a relatively affordable price. (And, for what it's worth, doesn't actually look that huge on my wrist, that's just a result of the wide angle lens.)

>>15407533
Or how about getting off your duff, throwing the damn video games in the garbage and hitting the pavement. Find a business in your town, ask the lady at the front desk for the man in charge. When he comes out look him square in the eye and give him a firm handshake, tell him “sir, I’m here to work, what do you got for me?”. He’ll admire your gumption and odds are you’ll be employed that very day.

>>15407728
>boomer posting this hard

>>15407716
>the modern Navitimer-style pilot watch was never really a practical pilot tool
Objectively false

not a watchfag and don't care about watches because I actually have sex, but why do you geeks prefer metal bands to leather straps?

>>15407775
Depends on the watch.

>>15407716
How many timezones does your typical flight cross?

>>15407775
We can't afford watches with bracelets.

Seriously though dress watches sell more than sport watches on bracelets despite how popular the latter seem to be on instagram.

>>15407770
I'd be interested to hear why you think that. My experience as a pilot is that the E6B bezel - which is already compromised by only being a partial E6B to begin with (pic is my real one) - is too small and fiddly for practical use, especially in the cockpit, and there's virtually nothing in aviation that requires a sub-second stopwatch, especially one that again is too small and fiddly for cockpit use. I guess the Navitimer is useful as a regular watch but none of the extra features or complications have much value.

>>15407795
One at most, but again, that's not what the dual time display is for. It's there to show UTC/Zulu time, which is always used for official communications and paperwork regardless of the local time zone.

>>15407775
no not really, yes and no

being extremely general, metal is more boomer looking, leather is more youthful and /fa/ friendly.

but it is a hassle to care for (avoiding water, deployant clasp if you actually care, having leather straps on rotation because leather needs to recover and breathe). And despite all the attention eventually the leather will inadvertently fall to bits as it is after all still an organic material.

but there is a warmness and coziness that leather will always have that metal bracelets cannot replace.

>>15407775
(You)

>>15407775
I switch them out depending on the season, leather for winter and metal for the summer. Leather matches my winter clothes better and wears better under long sleeves and coats, while metal goes with summer clothes and won't get ruined by sweat like leather can. I prefer wearing metal in general anyway, though, the weight of the bracelet balances a heavy watch well and they're lower maintenance and easier to get on and off. (If you don't have a deployant on your leather straps.)

>>15407037
I want to lick it!

>matching multicolour nato straps to the colours present on the dial

effay or tryhard?

>>15407892
It's just gay. NATO straps look stupid most of the time anyway.

>>15407892
I used to work for a BMW tuner and would wear this shitter with this ///M NATO when we'd go to trackdays or car shows. Bimmerfags loved it but /wtg/ has always hated it.

>>15407716
>>15407804
>>15407819
Fuck off macchi

>SQUAAAA-LEEEEEE

What the fuck is going on with Archieluxury? I check in on his channel and a) there’s a video tour of his crack den of a house, and b) any distinction between Paul Pluta the real person and Archibald Chesterfield III the internet personality seems to have completely eroded.

>>15407908
Is that some tripfag or something? The only macchi I'm familiar with is a pre-war Italian aircraft company.

>>15407917
When you live the meme too long you become the meme

>>15407775
They're easier to take off because nobody actually makes custom leather straps with tri-fold clasps for sub 100 bucks, fit well, require very basic cleaning occasionally instead of needing to be fully washed or thrown away after years of use, and they're overall just superior.

Metal bracelets still have a ton of issues, though. Number one is how many of them are made for retards. 2mm is the maximum thickness a strap should be, but the vast majority of them are 4mm. This effectively doubles the weight for NO BENEFIT.

Number two is how pretty much everything on the market is bog standard stainless steel. Maybe 50 years ago this would've been acceptable, but today we have real materials like titanium and high quality tooling that makes working with it trivial. Imagine spending more than 30 bucks on a strap made of fucking SS.

And finally, there's how much of an absolute pain in the dick it is to find straps for anything that isn't a major meme watch. Is there some standardised measurement for end link radii? No, you just have to hope someone else bought the same strap and tried it on your watch. Got a watch where you want the look of an integrated bracelet, where the sides of the strap match the diameter of your watch? Yeah, you're never getting that in a million years unless you buy say a 22mm strap to fit a 20mm watch with 22mm outer lug diameter, and then shave down the end link yourself to fit.

>>15407918
It was some guy in another general that was learning to be a pilot and would constantly talk about that. Plus getting cucked by foreign girls all the time lmao

>>15407804
I really want a slide rule and/or a slide rule watch.
I actually would have a use for it (assuming it can do that operation; and yes, I'm aware that my phone can already do it, or pen and paper which I'm carrying anyways, but we're in a watch thread, so that obviously is of no concern):
I often have to calculate flow rates of pipes and water pumps and such, so I just take a bucket of a known volume (e.g. 15 liters), fill that with the chrono running and then calculate liters/minute.
Lets say the 15 liters took 20 seconds to fill, that's quite easy, 45l/min, but if it's 7 seconds, it get's annoying.
Which watch can do that for me (that doesn't cost more than 500 and is not a diner plate)?

>>15407892
I'd either go with some neutral, single color or make sure the colors match.
>>15407896
You're gay!
>>15407904
I like it!

People who buy replica watches should be executed.

>>15407995
What Breitling model is this?

Why the hell do San Martin write the word “replica” on their site and on the orders.
I mean the 62mas is for sure a very faithful homage, but with a San Martin logo on it instead of Seiko it’s surely not an actual replica in that sense.

>>15407995
>is not a diner plate
All slide rules are fundamentally dinner plates, they have 2 fucking bezels. You'll struggle more trying to remember how to use a slide rule over either just having a calculator watch or just a regular calculator.

>>15408015
maybe Chinese doesn't have an equivalent for homage, or Baidu translate translates it in to replica

What is he wearing?
Looks like some kind of g-shock, but can't exactly make it out. Looks like a cool shitter.

>>15408021
>they have 2 fucking bezels.
I think I've seen some old ones, from when they actually had some (limited) use that were 40mm or something, and oldschool chronos were 36mm, so it should exist.

>>15408065
They should just leave it out, would be much better. Not because people should lie to themselves about what they’re buying, but western customs officers might take offence to that exact word and have a different view on it than the Chinese.

>>15408078
You just posted cringe, don't do it again.

>>15407522
Np. Glad to help.

>>15407995
Seiko flightmaster quartz (SND255), just found it and it looks like it's easy to find for under 150$.
Also check out casio edifice slide rule. Casio had a lot of these. The cheapest i found was for about 49$ new and looked decent.
Other edifice go for about 130$

>>15407946
Lol at boring incels that get into huge debt because they think that being a pilot will get them easy pussy.

>>15408113
It’s pretty badass to be a pilot imo. I’d be way too scared.

What is so great about the Seiko sarb 033??

>>15408104
I have one of these, I'll sell it to you for $40

>>15408137
it hit a sweet spot of size, movement, wr, lume, design, price

>>15408144
So do hundreds of other watches, for some reason it just skyrocketed in price.

>>15408146
it skyrocketed because its been discontinued for years now

My 2254.50

>>15407843
shut the fuck up nerd

>>15408113
There are ways to not go into debt or too much debt to become a pilot

>>15407037
How does Lange do it? Their designs are just pure sex.

>>15408142
Thanks for the offer but i'm not the guy who wants a slide rule watch. Maybe he is more interested in this offer. >>15407995

>>15408197
>42mm 14mm thick
>Pure sex
Nope, just another oversized fat watch for oversized fat boomers.

>>15408192
That's true, there are programs from big airlines where you just agree to work for them afterwards for a while. And also you can make money while learning, with your small aircraft license. But i don't know much more details, just bits that i caught in conversations.

But the joke is just how many men get memed into this profession by the overblown sexappeal that hollywood gave to pilots. The stewardesses are often total whores and empty headed cunts. Fun when you just bang them but after some years shit gets old, real fucking quick.

>>15406194
That's hideous.

Right now is probably the worst time ever to become a commercial airline pilot. Unless you have a connection with FedEx or one of the other big freight carriers just don't bother.

>>15408221
True, I used to work for American airlines as a ramp agent and they had programs for employees to become pilots if they wanted but you had to work for them. Exactly there's all kinds of ways to do it. One guy I know is uses money he got from being in the army to pay for his training.

Oh I saw plenty of slutty and trashy flight attendants and the way some of the pilots would flirt with them.

>>15408240
Or use the time where people are less willing to apply for that and start now. Once corona is done, normies will travel like retarded. They need to cure that itch. Airlines are in trouble now but if the market recovers, work will be plenty and they will be overloaded with tourists.

>>15408240
Things will get better again in a few years. There's always down turns in aviation but it always bounces back and there will still be a pilot shortage once things get back to normal

>>15406001
this is the fourth consecutive thread you've posted your pic with the word "thoughts?" and everyone who has an opinion has already replied to you.
your an annoying fuckboi. that's my thought.

some famalam make a new thread

>>15408113
I don't think many people get very far in it with that attitude. I went into it because it's what I'd wanted to do since I was a little kid, and because it's a good career in a relatively low-bullshit industry, one of the few jobs left where you actually have to be qualified and can't "fake it till you make it."

>>15408181
The better version of you slid down your mother's asscrack, bitch

>>15408386

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>>15408436
fuck off you fucking faggot
this thread isn't even at 310 posts

>autistically creating new threads so early
Kys

>>15408442
You fuck off. Half the thread is poorfags crying about being poorfags. I bet you're the faggot crying about Rolex and watches as investments. Can't fucking use capital letters punctuation like an adult.

>creating a new thread with over 40 posts to go in this one

Fucking low IQ smooth brain retard. Jesus christ.

>>15408486
He's intentionally trying to derail these threads, making a new thread early and dividing anons by pushing the richfag/poorfag bullshit as far as it will go.

ehhh

Can someone rec me some leather card holders or thin wallets? I feel like the watchfags know whats up with that kind of shit

>>15408523

How thin are we talking?

I use a Trayvax Ascent. What I like about it is that it has a steel frame and very good/thick leather.

What I like about it is that it never grows in thickness/size because of how well built it is, which is the problem with most of the thin wallets you see out there. They look fine without any cards in them, but once you start stuffing them they become as big as any other. Not Trayvax though.

https://www.trayvax.com/collections/wallets-all/products/ascent

>>15408543
I just want something thin enough that I can have it in my back pocket without getting pissed off when I sit down. That wallet looks very practical but I don't like the detailing on their stuff, too tactical for my taste. tempted to just go with a st laurent desu but I like brown leather

>>15408499
I like it a lot. is this your photo?

>>15408556
based I have the st laurent cardholder

>>15408584
how long have you had it? I'm a bit concerned about durability

>>15408592
got it as a gift about a year ago? maybe exactly a year ago or a bit more?
before this I had a >burberry one, this one has held up pretty well. it's extremely stiff, with my last one the cards occasionally fell out actually. this one you have to almost yank the cards out because they're so snug in there.
corners are peeling a bit already. can only comfortably fit 5 or 6 cards total. leather everywhere except the top corners looks new still

>>15408523
I love my Aurochs wallet, great quality leather and you get a note from the guy that makes it.

>>15408580

Nah, from /r/watches . I think it looks like cheap plastic.

>>15408601
glad to hear it, thanks man. I really like their ID card ones, but they're sold out on their site, might be able to cop one somewhere else though

>>15408609
just checked them out and I really like the design, especially that cutaway on the front flap. not huge on the contrast stitching but they're very fairly priced, thanks for the rec

>>15408629
at least it matches the pewdiepie gaming chair

>>15408642
nice this is mine, looks the same on the back without the logos

>>15408652
oh yeah that does look a lot more secure irl than the pics of the empty ones do

Finally got a Rolex guys!

>>15408664
Thoughts?

>>15407220
No Sinn 556i .........

help me /fa/ what's the cheapest automatic chronograph I can buy new in box

>>15408673
Dunno about the absolute cheapest but I was poking around Nordstrom Rack's website the other day and they had some <$500 Tissot auto chronos, I almost thought about grabbing one just because that's dirt cheap for an auto chrono from an actual watch brand.

>>15408664
Is that you, Jenni Elle?

>>15408670
>556i

Yeah, nah.

>>15408706
Looks very similar to the ones in WWII German fighters. I've always wanted a watch that exactly replicated those, a lot of fleigers come close but they're not quite right for whatever reason. What's that panel out of?

>>15405922
i want to buy one of those someday
honestly looks great with the wear and scratches i dont understand why anyone would polish them

>>15408766
The 556i looks nothing like a WW2 Beobachtungsuhr given it has no hour or minute marks, modern brushed SS case, modern lug design, crown guards and even has a date feature.

It literally looks nothing like them you big dummy.

If you want the real experience, LaCo and Aristo are as close as you can get to the original looks. Stowa, Archimede for modern takes.

As for the panel, dont know, it was in a car collectors garage.

>>15408642
>>15408543
>>15408652
Do you guys really not use cash at all?

>>15408793
IN FIGHTERS MORON NOT ON WRISTS

>>15408793
I like the archimedes with blued hands but I wish they used a top grade movement like stowa.

>>15408811
The clock is the one on the very top, homie, but keep spazzing out.

>>15405808
cum in her martini

>>15408806
I have like $40 in my wallet, and haven't used cash in at least 6 months now.

>>15408793
I meant the Sinn cockpit clock in that photo looked like the WWII fighter ones, wasn't talking about the watch.

>>15408821
TARDUS RETARDUS

>>15408806
Not one of those guys but I virtually never use cash. I know some countries still have a lot of cash-only stuff (Japan in particular) but there's pretty much no reason ever to carry or use it in the US.

>>15408904
That's weird as fuck. Why would you not use cash if you can though ?

>>15408910
Why would I ever want to use cash when I can just use a card?

>>15408836
Bell and Ross BR S

>1900 for a quartz watch

>>15408917
bartenders and waiters on suicide watch

>>15408806
I mean you probably don't carry a coin purse, around, right? not much different for bills, I don't use them that much so I don't need dedicated storage for them

314 posts, now you're finally allowed to migrate:

>>15408431
>>15408431
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>>15408664
Nice replica