/fa/ - Fashion

reply with a funky watch you'd still wear

>>15398049
interesting moon phase integration

Juvenia had a few interesting designs

>>15398064
how does this one work

>>15398041

Okay, question on actually styling watches in an effay way.

How do you properly wear watches with long sleeve shirts?

>Dress shirt
Do you wear it underneath the cuff? If so, then you're just hiding your watch. And if your watch can fit beneath your cuff then you aren't wearing your dress shirt properly. You should button the wrist of your shirt tightly.

And if you expose your watch while having your shirt cuff fit properly, then one sleeve is shorter than the other. Not to mention that the shirt cuff now becomes pushed up against the watch and gets wrinkled/pushed/ruffled/looks weird. And on top of that you now have one cuff sleeve that goes all the way to your wrist and one side that does not.

And if you wear a sweater you have the same problems as above. Either hide the watch beneath the sweater (also indicative of an ill fitting sweater). Or have one side longer than the other and have the shorter side bunched up slightly.

It seems like a lose-lose scenario.

And obviously the "shorter" sleeve isn't bunched up as if it had inches of extra material. But what I'm saying is that the cuff won't lie flush on your skin the way it would if you didn't have a watch there. Nawwwww mean.

So how do you wear watches properly with a suit or long sleeve? Or is that just no possible and something that no one really brings up...?

>>15398094
it's a regular watch just has some odd hands.

heres a funky one I used to have, I regret selling it quite a bit. Electro-mechanical movement.

>>15398120
that's why dress watches are supposed to be thin. if your shirt is so tightly buttoned that a few mm watch can't slide underneath it then you're probably cutting off bloodflow lmao

>>15398120
The watch goes under the cuff. That is why dress watches were originally made thin so they can easily slider under. Also a well fitted shirts will not bunch up like you say and these days there is usually enough gap between the shirt and wrist to cover sport watches.

>>15398132
>usually enough gap between the shirt and wrist to cover sport watches.
Your tailor should be asking you what watch you'll often wear with that particular shirt anyway

>>15398135
Well excuse me mr Gucci loafers. Dress watches are rad though I should get one

Are there any watches like the Ulysse Nardin Moonstruck that are under $5000?

I just want a watch that has moonphases that accurately represent the procession of the moon. Even on other very expensive watches like Patek they have an inaccurate model of the moon phases.

Almost all watches have the moon travel at the top of the semi-circle from left to right. This is done so that it accurately reflects what the moon looks like in the sky. However, this inaccurately portrays the moon's movement which actually goes counter-clockwise around the earth, instead of the clockwise motion that nearly all watches portray (I do understand why they do this, however).

I've only seen the Ulysse watches portray the moon phase and procession accurately and I want to know if there are others out there that don't cost >$75,000.

tl;dr
>want a watch that has moon phases
>want the moon phases to accurately portray the counter clockwise procession of the moon around earth
>If it also had the sun's position that would be p chill -- but I'm sure that makes it v expensive (and may not even exist).
>Want it to be under $5000 (if not possible, what are my options aside from Ulysse?)

Thnx for the help.

Why are there so few watches with colored dials besides blue?

Looking for an analog with a round black face/surrounding and black rubber band. No special features/dials, black hands preferred. Timex is close if I switch out the band. ~50-150 USD. Any suggestions?

Has anyone tried straps from the watch steward?

Or similar elastic hook straps?

Are they any good?

>>15398198
Casio MQ 24

Are Daniel Wellington watches reliable? Don’t really care too much about craftsmanship and stuff just looking for something that looks nice. I had a $5 fake from aliexpress but it broke after a few months. Hoping to get a few years of wear at least

>>15398219
Shit, that was the one thing I forgot, posing the question because I'm a Casio slut. So, not Casio, I own a dozen already....

>>15398232
no
at least get a cheap watch by a "real" watch brand (timex, casio, etc.). my ex gf bought me a MVMT watch and it died within 18 months while my timex that I got for 1/5 the price 8 years ago is still ticking loudly

Here you go, guys.

https://youtu.be/oKOACikr6qo

>>15398041

What are good affordable straps for SARB033 for someone having a small wrist ? Preferably dark brown

>>15398232
Get the Timex fairfield if you really want that DW look but with a solid reliability

>>15398325
Morellato

>>15398346
this thread made it a relatively long time before someone finally posted a shitter

>>15398182
What are you on about? There's tons of colorful watches.

>>15398124
ID please.

>>15398325
debeer paris

>>15398049
thats the first hermes watch that I dig.
I bet it's fuck-huge and overpriced but it's fucking cool still.

Could someone ID this model for me?

>>15398386
Learn to use image search (Yandex)

What's bad about this? Apart from it maybe being slightly too big at 40mm. I really like how it looks, and a pointer date is always sexy, especially when it means you can have Arabic numerals with none missing which I feel messes up dial symmetry.

I'm looking for a chink dive watch with bezel that's sub 38mm case diameter, sub 40mm lug to lug. Any suggestions, or are they all dinner plates?

>>15398443
fuck off mongrel cuck

>>15398239

>>15398443
the islander is at 38 but with lug to lug of 44.

those are hard dimensions to fit for all dive watches. You'll need to look in non usual places like youth watches and womens watches that look very unisex.

I bought a armani exchange 35mm watch because I have thinspo child wrists, did i fuck up /wa/

I listened to you. Leather strap is on it's way. Is this how an addiction starts or did you just fuck with me?
Why does my image flip here? Stupid shit.

>>15398478
>why does image flip here
because 4chan strips metadata so your actual location is not disclosed

i crop and downsize my photos with an app and that issue goes away

>>15398452
yes
>>15398475
yes cause you bought a fashion watch

>>15398499
There isnt many 35mm watches that i know or 34mm as a wristlet my watches are restricted

>>15398452

>>15398520
it looks terrible

>>15398520
That's pretty nice actually

>>15398520
if anyone wants one, i have the 39mm version from jf, worn 5 times, no signs of use. had a service done and runs perfectly smooth
rwi says its a superrep

>>15398535
Yes, please. 5€ seems appropriate.

>>15398442
I have the 36mm. I love it

How would I find a Japanese day dial for these? Do they even exist or does everyone just use the English?

>>15398554
you can source them easily, even buy them off ebay

any recommendation for next watch?
budget: $1000 USD or less
style: chronograph, flieger, anything but diver really
size: as you can see from the photo I’m a wristlet, so <40mm
movement: preferably manual/automatic, or solar quartz

>>15398232
Not really.
Your battery will die quick since it's a bottom-of-the-barrel cheapo, and the price of a new one is higher than the watch is actually worth.

>>15398581
I loved my Seiko gen1, very cool watch.

I did it Reddit. Black or grey NATO?

What is your "fuck you I like it" watch?
>hurr Tag ruined everything
>nice pricing fgt
>still pricing what was innovative in the 70s as if it was innovative today
>LARPing as a race car driver
>you will never be Steve McQueen, stop trying
I dun care, it's still a cool watch.

>>15398535
repfags are the worst and have no dignity.

>>15398600
ooof what a beauty, a bit over my price range though. I saw one up for auction on eBay in last year, sold for like $2000 aud ($1500 usd ish)
How’s the lume on yours? I heard Pm last for like 50 years or something.

>>15398602
r

>>15398612
I like this too, but fuck paying £5k for modern Tag quality.

>>15398443
chink divers? you're going to struggle
I know christopher ward does a 38mm diver and the SKX 013 is also small, but they're both like 43mm lug to lug

>>15398612
the indices randomly thrown around the edge of the dial, god what were they thinking. 'they dont fit.. eh just stuff em in'. Yeah it's an iconic watch but not for me.

picrel is it for me, probably the most elegant diver ever made, yet I've seen tastelets here criticize it.

>>15398630
r?

>>15398628
No way, they go for a little under 1k. Theres a superb one for sale right now https://www.mwrforum.net/forums/showthread.php?89592-FS-Seiko-Gen-1-RAF-Chronograph-1990

Not sure where you heard that about the lume, the promethium isotope has a pretty short half life, I think 6 years. Mine didnt glow at all.

>>15398635
the bezel and domed glass makes it look like a flying saucer lol

Whats some watches that are 35mm 34mm for wristlets

>>15398649
Ladies watches you limp wristed virgin

>>15398651
Kys retard fatty, uh ohh overweight virgin

Where will the watch industry be in 10-20 years? Will Swiss watches still be a thing or are we all gonna wear smart watches? I can't imagine strapping yet another computer on my wrist but what if they get so good that it would be a joke not to wear one?
I just read an interview with the CEO of the swatch group that they are struggling immensely with the corona crisis and the ongoing Hong Kong thing. They also laid a lot of monet for the new Bond and the Tokyo Olympics sponsorship that won't pay off until next year. Like 60% less demand in May and they are still one of the brands/groups that are better off because they own all the small plants that make the parts that almost everybody uses for their mechanicals. Plus they still have a billion dollars left from the better times before 2020.
Also an interesting note from the interview is that next year the silicon spring patents expire and Seiko appearantly has great things planned with that technology.

what do you guys think about the 3 new AP ROs?

these are 44mm and ceramic.

>>15398612
this is my dad's grail watch
his 60th is in 6 years, that's plenty of time for me to save up for one

>>15398649
White dial Rolex Datejust 34 mm unless you are on a strict budget. In that case...I don't really know. Vintage dress watches or that one Timex Marlin reissue that occasionally is mentioned here.

>>15398662
Ugly as shit. The plain metal ROs are the only good-looking ones.

>>15398645
thanks I’ll have a look.
Interesting. Can’t remember whom it was but some guy told me the promethium lume on his vintage jdm Citizen still glow to this day. Maybe he got it repainted.

any other recommendations?
I like the seiko alpinist but the green dial kinda threw me off. Haven’t seen it in person though.

>>15398668
Thanks for the reccomendation, didn't know rolex did watches that small, ive been looking at the timex merlin

>>15398662
the middle subdial being a bit closer to the top dial compared to the bottom fucks with my ocd.
The AP initial makes the dial look too busy imo

>>15398628
If you're concerned with lume it can be redone for fairly cheaply (and well) if you shop around a bit.

>>15398631
Either buy classic to get the real deal, or get a "barely used" one from like 2018 that's already being resold for half it's value.
That's what I'm planning. Modern ones aren't worth 5-6 grands, but 2-3k is more reasonable.

>>15398232
DWs are fucking garbage. Literally the worst. Not even worth $10

>>15398674
Oh yeah, they make the Datejust in all kinds of sizes from 28 to 41 mm.
Nomos has a 34 mm Version if the Tangente which looks good and Junghans has the Max Bill Handaufzug that's also in that 34-35 mm range. That's all I can think of for now though.
Everything else thats "small" begins at 36 mm.

Found a use for my chrono

>>15398671
I believe vintage watches far exceed modern ones in style and value so I'd only be recommending them. Watch in OP is mine >>15398041, I think 50s/60s Tudors are a great value if you find one you like, you get a beautiful dial and Rolex Oyster case often under 1k. But research is required, the movements can be tough to service.

Heres a Movado that caught my eye and is selling far less than I would have thought
https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/fs-1950%E2%80%99s-vintage-movado-triple-date-calendar-steel-case-serviced-manual-wind.5163265/
Has that whimsical look of some of the hugely valuable Rolex, Patek, etc. triple calendars. But I know little about these and again research is needed with vintage. It's what makes things interesting for me.

>>15398690
I've never had such useful info from a anon ever before, thankyou

taobao watchbox just came
time to fill this bad boy up with shitters

>>15398478
yea
straps are great for changing the look of a watch without the cost of a whole new one
>>15398554
alternatively you can buy kanji daywheels for the 7s26/nh35 and have them changed out by a watchmaker
>>15398602
neither
i think a leather strap would look sweet with that

>>15398717
are you in China or do you use a forwarder?

>>15398704
Thanks for the recommendation, I really want to get into vintage watches but the risk of buying a lemon and maintenance cost are the biggest turnoffs for me. Where do you usually go for vintage watches?

>>15398649
You have plenty to choose from if you go vintage.

>>15398535
>>15398520
not the guy that posted that, but I also want a purple dial and that's my favorite Rolex. It's a shame there's not really anything cheaper for men

>>15398717
How much did you pay? I see the same box on Amazon for $30-40

Are the "JQueen" winders on Amazon reliable? Was thinking of picking up a 4 watch winder for my chrono watches as I'm lazy af to set the day and date on some of them.

>>15398649

>>15398720
If the seller says it runs and there's a movement pic and the movement doesn't look beat to hell, you're generally safe. Just do a bit of research on the movement to see if it's regarded well and not incredibly rare, so that parts aren't an issue, A watch service costs around $200, bit more for chronos, so just factor that into the price.

I've bought mine either on Ebay (cheaper) or various forums (safer). watchrecon is a good aggregator. Also buy the seller, google their name and see what else they've sold and where.

I've made some mistakes but you learn from them and I just can't look at modern watches and get excited anymore.

>>15398719
nah im in singapore, not mainland china
but they offer shipping here, no need for a forwarder or anything, just need to pay shipping fees

>>15398729
it was only 94rmb which is $13.4 usd, lol

>>15398748
thanks!

>>15398700
Hol up, is that a pregnancy test?
I always have a hardon for a chrono, but I seemingly have zero use for one, I never time anything I couldnt do with a diver bezel.

>>15398768
same boat, a dive bezel is generally more useful. Plus the good vintage chronos cost a ton, only hand wind, and have literally no WR, probably not much shock resistance either. The movements are a thing of beauty but they're too impractical for me.

>I'll probably get one eventually

>>15398442
I would rather go with a German brand for Oris money like Nomos or Stowa. Just that Oris use basic movements with no finishing but the pointer date is a unique design so if you love it go for it.

>>15398635
I can see why someone wouldn't like the fat hands, honestly.

>>15398768
Yeah, the missus is late but it came back negative.
Practically speaking I have almost no need for a chrono either, it still does occasionally come in very handy though, and the crunchy pushers are so satisfying to push.

>>15398751
ahh that's pretty good
taobao doesn't do the UK yet which is super annoying

inherited this, runs but v slow, worth getting it serviced or no?

>>15398798
Good you dumb fucking breeder

>>15398846
Find someone who can service it, ask them what needs to be done and get a quote. If it just needs dissembly cleaning of the movement and lube it won't be to bad, replacement parts might be depending on what the movement is and how common it is. Don't have them clean or restore the hands or dial at all just leave them as is.

>>15398846
>>15398859
Oh i just noticed the glass is cracked too, that's worth replacing if possible.

>>15398846
Nah probably not worth it unless there’s sentimental value.

>>15398662
Imagine paying 35k for a kids mall shitter. Wtf are they thinking when designing these things?

If I'm being perfectly honest with myself, an AP RO extra thin "Jumbo" is my dream watch.

VC really dropped the ball by not making their thin Overseas the standard Overseas.
This was the perfect way for them to stand out, and they botched it.

>>15398883
Pic is the VC "ultra thin".

It would be the perfect alternative to the RO, being less of an obvious richfag plebcatcher than the ubiquitous RO.
But no, they just had to make the ultra thin Overseas in gold.

Thoughts on this VC?

>>15398662
Those are not RO's they are RO Offshore's. To this day I still can't believe anyone actually likes Offshore's despite how well they sell.

Saying that though AP are probably the best brand at using ceramic.

>>15398891
people give seiko shit for unnecessary date windows but goddamn this is a VC
also while I dont like a book of text on a dial (looking at you modern rolex) the lack of anything above the 6 looks unbalanced.
I'm sure the case/movement finishing is hi-tier but I wouldn't cop

>>15398885
The only good thing about the Overseas is the movement and the replaceable straps & bracelet.

Now that all the hype and backlash has died down was there a consensus about the Odysseus yet?

>see accutron on eBay on auction
>Had Make Offer
>No bids
>make an offer but runs out before seller could get back to me
> message seller asking him if he'll put it back up
>says he will but lowest he'll go is starting bid
What's the point in doing make offer if you won't accept anything under the starting bid?

>>15398897
Ya, the DW is all left justified to stay in line with the ring.

>>15398906
Bracelet looks rather wide in that image.

>>15398906
The bracelet is too big and it will forever be the problem with this watch

im getting a stowa, using it for the rest of my life, and none of you can stop me.

>>15398898
Yes, the standard Overseas has a great movement and features.

But I have a feeling it's too chonky to compete with the RO (which is also chonky but much more established).
I'm tall with muscular arms so I could most likely pull it off just fine though.

>>15398906
Still the same: it's a Frankenwatch.
Sports bracelet slapped onto a conventional case with discordant "sporty" dial features.

Lange has actual heritage in "sports" watches with their Fliegers. They should've gone down that route.

>>15398041
ID on this watch? looks very nice.

>>15398919
Get a TOP model and you would be commended by several people from these threads on your purchase.

>>15398846
Cortebert is/was a very nice brand. Like the other anon said. Go to a proper watchmaker and ask them for a quote. Even if it would cost 500 that woulf be worth it for me. Very nice watch, what's the diameter?

>>15398934
sorry whats that mean? i was going to go for a handwound marine classic

>>15397537
Not that ugly piece of shit, a proper one.

>>15398952
But that is a proper Air King. In fact, it's the newest model, so it's the definitive one

>>15398950
The Top version of the movement, a bit of engravings, so nicer to look at, but better parts and better regulated, so more accurate.

>>15398906
Love it, looks absolutely amazing.

>>15398920
> Yes, the standard Overseas has a great movement and features.
It does but I feel the rest of it is mediocre.

>>15398896
>Saying that though AP are probably the best brand at using ceramic
After Rado, you mean. You might not like what they do with it, but they pretty much started the whole thing and made it their thing.

>>15398635
One of the top 5 best looking divers of all time imo

>>15398952
Nothing ugly about it imo. Love the green and gold contrast on the logo.

>>15398885
>less of an obvious richfag plebcatcher
>bezel is literally a ninja throwing star

>>15398972
Rado may have started it but AP use it the best. They've improved the manufacturing to make it more shatter proof and resilient and are the only brand I'm aware of that can polish it as if were metal. The all ceramic Royal Oaks are a real technical achievement.

Why do Patek Philippe watches look like replicas of themselves?

>>15398475
Update

>>15398980
not him and its horrendously ugly

oversized mallshit numerals and 2 different kinds of them. why? and what even is the role of the watch. is it meant to be a pilots watch? then the arrow at 12 is not even pointing the right way, its a total joke

What moonphase watch would you guys recommend me? I have a very small wrist, so below 40mm would be perfect

>>15398991
the indices are too long, even if it was the intent they could be made a couple mm shorter and then the hands should have been either full squared batons or at least the minute hand should go all the way to the end of the indices.
but for a fashion shitter... not bad really

>>15398988
Why does a model copying an early Calatrava design from the 1930's look like every wristwatch that has imitated since then? No idea anon, no idea at all.

>>15398988
Because Swiss are fucking lazy

>>15398991
> No wrist shot
This import question that needs answering is how does it fit on your anorexic wrists?

>>15399011
Barely, my wrists are 6inch, need alot of links off

>>15398968
It's really not though.
The movement and case are Geneva Seal.

>>15398992
>and what even is the role of the watch
To use up their leftover stock of 3, 6 and 9 indices from the old explorer

>>15399040
I don't understand your point?

>>15399048
"Geneva Seal" is a standard of quality and features: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Seal
(scroll down)

The Overseas bears that seal for both its movement and case.

why do people like crummy old watches that also need servicing and all sorts of issues and moldy dials and broken missing lume

just buy a gshock baka
its all the watch you will ever need

>>15399051
I don't care how well the case is made. It's boring and uninspired just like the dial.

>>15399058
Just saying it's not "mediocre" in terms of build quality.

But you're right, aside from that blue dial (which is the same blue as the Chronomètre Bleu by FP Journe) they're mostly sunburst dials or something.

>>15399057
>t. Tranny who made the other gshock thread

someone is selling these 18 k gold vintage Jaeger LeCoultre from 1960 for 500 euro, do you guys think is it worth it or not?

>>15399094
Even if that is real, and I have my doubts, the condition is so bad it is not even worth what they are asking for.

>>15398991
Could be worse but its still a shitter.

>>15399101
the point of buying vintage is that they show signs of wear. Thats what gives it character and a story. I dont understand people who choose to buy vintage but get scared or turned off by shit like cracked glass or a few nicks here and there. like duh what do you expect? $500 for 18k and a vintage from a big brand like this is a steal.

>>15399115
how about you buy your own new watch and give it your own story instead of just wearing some old busted ass shit and taking inordinate amounts of pride in imagining it was worn by a man cooler than you?
god you people are fucking pathetic

Пpивeт, bitches

>>15399115
> the point of buying vintage is that they show signs of wear.
pretty sure that's not the reason people buy vintage.

>>15399000
>wanting a moonphase under 40mm
How about stop being a dumb wristlet instead

>>15399101
>>15399115
i understand both of your perspective,just wanted to know if it is really worth it or not

>>15399115
>"Why is your watch all fucked up anon?
>"It's character bro, the scratches tell a story"
>"Oh really? What story?"
>"Idk some jew sold it to me for a markup"

>>15399119
Go buy your new gshock watches you retard. Vintage is about appreciating design and history. And part of that history is the life that the watch had so far in its lifetime. It is what adds colour and actual value to a piece that will be unique. Its like appreciating fine wine. Stupid

>>15399125
say that again when vintage rolexes with browned out crusty dials literally sell for like $300,000

>>15399137
>>15399119
This
The watch tells a story if you actually know what the story is. Usually from it being your watch and you having done a lot of shit while wearing it so you know the scratch on it is from when you hit your hand against a hold while rock climbing in the Pyrenees or something.
Saying you bought some random vintage watch for the story is retarded because it could have been bought by some fatass like you who just kept the watch in a drawer for 40 years, scratched it hitting the turnstile in a subway, and his wife's son is selling it after he died choking on a pot roast

>>15399137
>having a brainlet tier imagination
it could be anything that is why it is interesting

>>15399145
>i wore this while i fucked your mum

>>15399145
>it's interesting because I can just make shit up
you are literally living a lie

>>15399156
>having no imagination at all
your sad and empty life, only seeing black and white in terms of "worth" and "value"

the mystery and possibilities makes it interesting. Its like a old book from centuries ago with half the pages missing or damaged.

>>15399140
I can't argue for patina, I think it's retarded people now buy that shit. It's actually a very recent trend created by dealers and auction house who had old faded and worn watches that they then marketed very successfully to rich idiots when previously no one would touch then with a 10 foot pole.

>>15398980
Held one a couple times and it's absolutely disgusting to me. By far the ugliest Rolex I can think of.

>>15399172
The scratch is from when i nut in your mum and it caught the bed

vintage is just poorfag cope

>>15399174
you cannot deny that some examples of patina is actually very beautiful.
if it gives old watches with soul some love instead of them being discarded why not?

>>15399179
>poorfag
this watch literally costs more than your house.

>>15399179
stupid kpop zoomer
vintage is where the prices go out of all otherwise logical considerations and normal rules to goods dont apply anymore

>>15399094
>>15399094
What's the size? Looks quite small and get a photo of the movement if you can.
Just because it's a jlc doesn't mean it's valuable and 500 might be a fair price.

>>15399221

>half the daily steps done
>nice and low blood pressure
>all by 9:05am

Well done grandpa! Keep it up!

>>15399221
>imperial units
cringe
even NASA uses metric now

>>15399184
I hope you're memeing because that is fucking disgusting.

Here’s my favorite watch, with a full year of daily wear

>>15399277
it reminds me of marble, or the moon, or of worn leather bound books. Its visually striking and interesting.
If you get it you get it.
if you dont get it you have no imagination and vintage isnt for you.

>>15399294
>wears a rusted watch covered in literal sh*t

>you just dont get it
>you have no imagination

>>15398612

I too like fag Heuer and don’t care what they say about it being sullied

>>15399174
>>15399125
>>15399115
Spotless dial is pretty much the only thing I won't compromise on when buying vintage, because most other problems I can fix. If you have a cracked class you swap it ffs.
I buy vintage to find great watches that just need a bit of love for a fraction of the original price, and because I enjoy fixing them up, not because I want meh watches that look like shit but "muh stories".

>>15398612
I unronically want a Hublot Classic Fusion and a Big Bang

>>15398612

>>15399294
The patina in dials caused by silver paint oxidizing can in some cases look nice. The patina caused by sewage leaking into you watch like that is horrible.

>>15399184
Jesus that's fucking disgusting. If it's anything like this vostok patina then I can cope.

Just ran into this fuckboi watch reviewer. I actually like his reviews, he actually mentions things that he dislikes about some watches which so many reviewers refuse to mention in their videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUqH28oajaE

>>15399302
You must be one of those people who sees a charming old house in the woods and complain that it doesnt have a asphalt driveway or a garage with a remote controlled door
trained by corporations from birth to only like NEW AND SHINY

>>15399313
>swapping anything on vintages
>wanting a spotless dial on vintages

>>15399267
Maybe it's just really hot where they are?

>>15399369
New and shiny > shitty and broken
Keep coping poorfag

>>15398386
i suspect this is an homage for calatrava which is an homage to DW

What watch brands do you dislike most?

>>15399500
rolex

>>15399500
patek, hublot, richard mille, rolex, tag heuer

>>15399500
definitely rolex

>>15399500
Tag Heuer, Hublot and most of the swatch group.

>>15398700
did you knock her up?

>>15398700
W2c watch band.

>>15399510
>>15399525
>>15399529
>>15399544
Would you fine gentlemen like to elaborate on why you dislike those brands?

>>15399562
probably something to do with blacks, besides tag

a new jenni is up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymhRaMgxwz4

>>15399500
Rolex for being a fucking meme at this point.
Raketa for ruining all of their designs by "updating" them. The new Copernic is an insult.
Movado for cruising on the Museum's design alone by releasing new versions of it that all miss the point by a few kilometers every time.
Richard Mille for making me puke every time.

>>15399179
>vintage is just poorfag cope

/wt/ will never admit it but this is 100% true.

Buying "used" or "vintage" screams "I-I'm dirt poor."

If you can't afford it new, you shouldn't buy it used.

>>15398973
picrel

>>15398909
Dont try to understand ebay sellers, there are a ton that dont know what they're doing, laughably overvalue their item, or are praying for some miracle ignorant rich buyer to throw them a ludicrous amount.

Ebay is good because there is a minority of sellers who just want to move the item quickly without hassle and if you monitor saved searches and get lucky you can pounce and get an incredible deal. I got >>15398041 for around 1/3 what a dealer would charge and when I really opened it up and looked its been taken care of way better than I have any reason to expect.

That said, the things you buy in ebay almost inevitably come with at least one nasty surprise the seller did not mention.

>>15399369
Don't bother arguing with brainlets >>15399596
anon.

>>15399094
If it's real, sure. Don't know much about JLC, but it's worth looking into, even in the shape it's in.

>>15398973 #
picrel

>>15398909 #
Dont try to understand ebay sellers, there are a ton that dont know what they're doing, laughably overvalue their item, or are praying for some miracle ignorant rich buyer to throw them a ludicrous amount.

Ebay is good because there is a minority of sellers who just want to move the item quickly without hassle and if you monitor saved searches and get lucky you can pounce and get an incredible deal. I got >>15398041 (OP) # for around 1/3 what a dealer would charge and when I really opened it up and looked its been taken care of way better than I have any reason to expect.

That said, the things you buy in ebay almost inevitably come with at least one nasty surprise the seller did not mention.

>>15399369 #
Don't bother arguing with brainlets >>15399596 #
anon.

>>15399562
Can't speak for every brand but
>Rolex
overpricing, resting on their laurels and having lost their innovative edge ages ago
>Hublot
tasteless, gaudy design
>Richard Mille
same problem, except the prices make these an even better indicator of young-money and proof that you definitely can't buy style
quintessential footballer watch
>Tag Heuer
ruining their own rich heritage in racing and aviation by lowering their production standards, lying about the origin of their movements, messing with their older designs with re-releases
>the Swatch group
very good at killing its competition in the entry and mid price range, has a strong chokehold on the industry in general, making it hard for newcomers to grow and get out of the microbrand stage especially in Europe

>>15399500
Rolex because it's faux-luxury. The brand went from a quality robust service watch to "luxury" brand, but they didn't do anything to make it luxury. They don't hand-finish movements. They'll refuse to service their own watches (pray your dial never gets damaged). Their quality control is garbage (I bought a new 34mm date and their was hair beneath the crystal, I had to send it in to get in removed).

But the worst thing is the people who fucking wear them. The only people who buy Rolex do so because "It's a Rolex".

>>15399596
I knoe an ophthalmologist surgeon who makes more than you ever will in your life and he only buys used because he knows that buying them new is a ripoff.

>>15399630
Giving a retard £100 doesnt validate anything he buys as usefull

>>15399596
yesssss buy a DayDate that's totally still worth 14k because no other watch anywhere displays both the date AND the day, and shell out for a Submariner, it's the only true reliable diver after all, Seikos and Vostoks are just so flimsy, we totally aren't ripping you off or anything, the entry level and mid level luxury range is perfectly priced

>>15399630
If you're buying a vintage watch "because of the value" you're a fucking retard.

If you care about value, you'd just buy a Casio F91W.

>>15399596
on the contrary buying new is for stupid poorfags
richfags know how the system works, they buy everything used

>>15399648
>they buy everything used

No they don't

>>15399651
>t. poorfag

>>15399642
What the fuck are you even saying? Are you having a stroke?
>>15399647
It's not about value you dipshit, it's about not throwing your money away. If a man who makes a little under a million a year understands this you should too working your shitty 9-5

>>15399648
>a-actually if you buy used y-you're a richfag who's gaming the system.

Jesus Christ I'm actually cringing at this COPE right now.

Just say "I want a cheaper version of the same watch" and move on. Stop pretending like it's some 10,000 IQ play to buy a used watch. A used watch (usually) loses it's value because of scratches, marks, discoloration, and damage. That's why the cost less.

If you don't care about damage, then just say that and move on.

what if I just want a model that's discontinued tho

>>15399657
>Jesus Christ I'm actually cringing at this COPE right now.
Anon, just read your own posts. The only one coping here is you. You probably save money to buy your watches and drive a mazda or some shit.

>>15399657
and because in very few cases the vintage version is finished worse, has a worse movement, less advanced materials.
exception for historically significant watches like speedies

>>15399657
if you use the watch in 2 months time it will have the same amount of scratch, unless you're a poorfag who only wear watches on special occassion
even a BNIB is 20% disc
same with cars
stop arguing so much and start having money

>>15399655
Newflash incel: Watches are a waste of money period. There's no "smart" why to buy a watch. You're throwing away your money every time you buy something that's not a cheap digital watch.

Stop pretending like "the rich KNOW the smart way to buy a watch" because there is no smart why to buy a watch. If you're dropping more than $20 on a watch, you don't care about value—you care about something else (i.e., brand, heritage, status, etc.). That's fine. If you care about a brand that's great. But at least be honest with yourself. Stop feeding yourself the bullshit lie that "hurr well muh VALUE!!"

Why are most of you so fucking angry *all* the time?

What’s wrong with you?

>>15399679
self made poverty

>>15399677
>t. wasted money on a new f91 instead of getting one used for $0.50

>>15399677
I'm not him, but his simple point you aren't seeing is that there is relative value in vintage compared to new watches, even if overall watches are not a value purchase.

>>15399679
Using the word "cope" gets 75% of /fa/ users into a wild frenzy.
It doesn't matter how much or how little sense it made in the first place.

>>15399677
>There's no "smart" why to buy a watch.
Yeah there is, spend less money on it, dumb fuck. You are a perfect example of the sunk cost fallacy retardation that plagues the watch community.
>>15399679
No sex probably. Also being angsty 20 year olds

if you're not going through watchmaking school (on a scholarship), buying your own wholesale raw materials and building your own watch entirely from scratch for the lowest possible cost then you're overspending on a watch

Stop buying 2nd hand £5 smeared in sh*t watches poorfags

>>15399596
vintage rolex are more expensive than new

>>15399690
THIS man gets it!

>>15399691
>BuT MuH g00Dw1lL C0p

>>15399690
>implying the time you'll spend on all of this won't make it a complete waste compared to getting some used quartz swatch on ebay for 3 bucks
I don't think anyone can make a watch from scratch in less that one hour, so making your own is necessarily a waste of money compared to getting the cheapest used shit you can find

>>15399690
It's not about overspending on any watch, it's about overspending on a specific watch. If I want a rolex explorer I want to get it at the best price possible, because I'm a greedy fucking kike, so I'm gonna buy it used. I don't want another watch for better value, I want an explorer, because I've wanted one since I was a kid. You are so fucking stupid it hurts.

>>15399700
>>15399696
>>15399691
>>15399671
>>15399657
>>15399677
samefagging moron ruins wt thread like usual

>>15399702
A piece of paper i cut into a circle and glue some hands on probably has better qc than most brands

If you're not telling the time by checking the position of the sun or the stars and instead buy something to do that for you, you're just wasting money. Watches are inherently a waste of money for brainlets who can't use their own eyes.

>>15399548
Thankfully no, I'm not quite ready for that yet.
>>15399551
Cheapnatostraps, it was the adjustable single pass strap.

>>15399715
To tell time using the sun you'd need a sextant and a sunfilter.

That's easily $400-$500.

>>15399622
I see Swatch being colossal jews regarding their ETA movements, so more and more microbrands are turning towards Sellita.
Also the internal hierarchy of Swatch means unless the brand leave the group, we will never get actual good watches from the lower brands like Longines and TAG, bacause the exclusivity will be reserved for Omega and the like. Allthewhile artificially keeping the prices of the formerly mentioned brands high by playing on heritage and SWISS MADE memes.

>shit value
>overpriced
>chokehold on lower brands coming up with new tech

Swatch is cancer, but Im sure the rest of the watch groups operate in a similar manner.

>>15399722
A sex tent for when i f*ck your mum

>solid gold case watches for less than 500
how come no one ever mentions “le ebbin” Lord Elgin?

>>15399722
>not being able to tell the time with a 2 hours margin of error just by looking up, no instruments
retard

>>15399729
>solid gold case watch
What is it a 10mm diameter or something? Perfect for /fa/ wristlets. The case would have to weigh less than 10 grams for it to be sold just are gold weight price.

>>15398717
Got any interesting designs/makers of leather straps you’d recommend? I was also considering a Milanese loop, but again I have no idea where I’d go to find a good quality one.

>>15399729
>solid gold case watch
What is it a 10mm diameter or something? Perfect for /fa/ wristlets. The case would have to weigh less than 10 grams for it to be sold just at gold weight price.

>>15399735
this but unironically

>>15399720
Thanks, found it. I love the diagonal weave pattern on it.

NEVER, NEVER PAY RETAIL FUCKERS, NEVER PAY RETAIL UNLESS IT'S ROOOOLEEEEX.

>>15399562
associated with rich with no taste or just to flex others, meme, overrated, overpriced, list goes on

>>15399625
this

>>15399767
i want to pay retail for daytona

>>15399773
>>15399770
fuck off rolex is beautiful
you all are just hatin'

>>15399729
That's beautiful. Love the numerals.

>>15398554
grand seiko > patek phillipe > audemars piguet > cartier > rolex/tudor etc > casio > seiko > citizen, timex etc > hospital wrist band > apple watch > cheap trinket > hair bobble > elastic band > festival wristband > sweatband > self-harm scars > duct tape > fitbit > chain bracelet > band of string > band of cotton

>>15399812
> casio > patek phillipe > audemars piguet > cartier > rolex/tudor etc > > seiko > citizen, timex etc > hospital wrist band > apple watch > cheap trinket > hair bobble > elastic band > festival wristband > sweatband > self-harm scars > duct tape > fitbit > chain bracelet > band of string > band of cotton > grand seiko
Ftfy

Thoughts?

>>15399828
I want it. Personally I have gaudy tastes so I would skeletonize the dial but it's brautiful as is.

>>15399729
cause its '70s Tolkien Hawkwind tier

>>15399826
casio is up there believe you me, but I didn't want to exaggerate
I stand by the list

>>15399828
ugly 'grandad died killing women wearing this' tier
trade it in and spend the money on a g-shock

>>15399842
As a huge casio fanboy I have to tell you to go fuck yourself eith a tree branch. That accutron is beautiful and you should feel ashamed. G-shocks are based though.

>>15399845
its horrid in my opinion. but I actually bought a versace watch so we all know who the true loser is in this thread

I wanna know everyone's favourite Casios

I might start a new thread

>>15399851
The 2nd hand goodwill watch poorfags

>>15399857
I like Texas Instruments better.

>>15399828
The watch looks nice enough but that bracelet is nasty.

>Seiko
>Grand Seiko
>Casio
>???

Where's my Grand Casio F91W?

>>15399877
just imagine the price on a Grand Rolex Daydate

>>15399866
I know what you mean

>>15399880
Grand Rolex MAAAAN ON THE MOOOOOON

>>15399369
Watches are meant to be fixed if they are broken, dumbass. Do you think a leaking washing machine is charming?

>>15399884
I meant exactly this.

>>15399857
For me it's a tie between these 2, I'm thinking of buying a silver dbc610 and putting it in the gold case.

>>15399845
>>15399877
>>15399884
I made a new thread for Casio

>>15399890

>>15399900
They're both gorgeous

Post em in the new thread
>>15399890

Monetary value has no relevance to something being 'effay' or not
And Casio are 100% effay
>>15399890

>>15399925
>>15399909
>>15399904
fuck off retard shitter spammer

>>15399929
bruh one of your own gone rogue. Please take responsibility

Lemme see those lady watches!

>>15399944
I once dated a chick with a long ginus. No watch tho

>>15399929
*yawn*
why not contribute?

LARPer

I'll wade in for a moment about vintage watches. To me it's really simple: either the value to you (and thus what you'd pay) of the vintage watch is tied to its historically original condition, or it's not. Furthermore, either you're buying it to wear or you're buying it as an investment in the hopes it appreciates in value over time.

If the watch is for investment, then you need to keep it original: no servicing from the dealer (as they'd replace parts), preferably not wearing it at all. A safe-queen.

If the watch is to wear, then you can either try to keep as much original as you can while replacing things like the movement, or you can just send it in for servicing and get a brand new old watch back.

I fall into the latter category: I've never bought a new watch from a boutique, for the simple reason that it immediately loses value the moment you walk out the door. You're paying a premium for that privilege. My strategy is to buy a watch in good enough condition that a standard service will be enough, but that is old or worn enough to get it at a good price. My Panerais, my Oris, and my Omegas were all in this category, and the 'new' Mark 40 on my wrist is the same thing. I'll eventually take it to Omega, pay the godless chronograph servicing charge, and get back a watch that has a polished and repaired case and bracelet, repaired and replaced parts in the movement, and any hands that need to be replaced as well. It'll be, to all who see it, a new watch, because that's what Omega does when you service a watch.

This is the complete opposite of anyone who wants a vintage watch that is original, and I understand that. But I buy my watches to wear, not to invest in. If I wanted to invest, then I'd buy Rolex new from the boutiques and store them in safes and resell them 40 years later for a 'profit'.

>>15399929
Please do show us your 'wristwear'

>>15399962
tl/dr

>>15399962
what's your general opinion on Casio?

>>15399972
For the plebs.
>Don't buy new at boutique because it loses value as you walk out the door.
>If you want vintage to be valuable, keep it in original condition for resale later on.
>if you want to wear vintage, be prepared to replace parts and thus affect resale.
>my strategy is buy old and in rough shape, service with original maker, get back new watch for fraction of the price of a new watch.

>>15399974
Never paid attention to them. They had cool calculator watches when I was kid, but that's about it.

>>15399877
>>15399904
>>15399909
>>15399925
>>15399929
>>15399943
>>15399960
>>15399974
High octane autism

>>15399943
Poorfag digispammers don't meet the basic mental qualification to belong here, thus we cannot be held liable for damages. He's your problem now.

>>15399989
fair dos your watch looks nice

all the other cunts in this thread are only gonna get attention from other rich male cunts

which is totally fine, and very effay, gay IS effay

enjoy yr watches dudes

The only new watches I have bought are limited edition releases precisely because sometimes they are actually cheaper there than online. If it’s a particularly sought out model, flippers will immediately put them up for sale online for a 20-30% markup.

AD’s will often be willing to give you a 20% discount, even for some of these limited edition watches.

Anyone, that’s all I have to say about that. Please remember to subscribe to my newsletter, smash that like button and check me out at @suckmydick on instagram.

>>15400010
Thanks! I really like it.

>>15400014
Interesting...I've never looked into special editions at all. My ADs really aren't looking to do discounts because in a big city with a lot of money, they don't have to. I was looking at a generic Hesalite Speedmaster at my Omega boutique last year, and the nice guy who I talked with and built history with told me the best price he could do. But when I went home and went against the Omega website and the 'suggested retail price', it was the same...there wasn't a discount of any sort by comparison. But perhaps ADs in smaller cities or places where the business is slow will be willing to do that just to move inventory.

One does have to make serious calculations though. If the cost of servicing is say, 800$, then you have to factor that into the cost of buying a well-used older watch to see if you come out better off. If you can get a speedy for 2500USD (basic and generic), you're really getting a new one for 3300USD. Is that a good deal? I think so if the normal price is 5500 or whatever. But paying full price for one new from an AD really isn't worth it unless you're never going to wear it.

You can even get gently used ones from jewelry stores, maybe because the previous owner traded it in or whatever. That's how I got the Rolex, anyway, back in the day.

>>15398177
https://www.christopherward.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-cwgross-Site/en_GB/Search-Show?q=c1%20moonglow

>>15398125
>>15398132
>>15398135


Not a single fucking watch in this thread was worn how you mentioned. If the watch was paired with a long sleeve shirt, NONE of them were able to go overtop of the watch easily. Instead, they all either bunched up behind it slightly, creasing the clothing, or they produced a weird fit with having one sleeve a couple inches shorter than the other by being placed behind the watch. That goes for nearly every single watch+long sleeve photo in this thread:
>>15398544
>>15398581
>>15398635
>>15398704
>>15398891
>>15398984
>>15399221

>>15400059
are you seriously so retarded that you cant figure out how to wear a watch with a long sleeve shirt

>>15399874
>>15399828
I took the Speidel pill so hard after getting a vintage Marlin. They look grandpa in pics but on the wrist they compliment the Art Deco of the watch. They yank at your hairs like a mofo when you first put em on, and then they become one of the most comfortable way to wear your watch. Watch has to be light and wrist can’t be too big though and not everyone can pull the look off.

>>15399000

I'm getting that ORIS Artelier someday. It's magnificent

>>15399596
Vintage watches below 1000 are almost always 10x more beautiful than modern ones.

Is Joma Shop a good online store?

Anyone here have an accutron? Where do you get you batteries for it?

>>15400271
The 387/394 is not that uncommon of a battery, so you can just pick them up at the same place you'd find other cell batteries for quartz shitters or whatever.

What is a modern equivalent to a renata 393 battery?

>>15400279
I thought you couldn't use them because they're 1.55v and the movement needs 1.3v

>>15400303
It's really not that big of a deal. I've been using those for my accutron since I got it. If yours runs fast with a 397/384 then you can get a watchmaker to install an extra diode that drops the voltage by 0.2V or pay out the ass for those 'accucell' batteries that do essentially the same thing.

>>15400313
thanks I'll keep that in mind

>>15400206
Yep. There's a fundamental difference between the time when watchmaking was a serious enterprise and entire art departments were dedicated to creating designs aseen as essential to everyday life, and the time when corporate stooges from large holding companies sit around plotting ways to make money off rich tastelets using brand names that retain some dwindling social capital.

Watchmaking today lacks the vitality to produce anything approaching the proportionality and elegance of even run-of-the-mill vintage pieces.

>>15400057

I appreciate it, but the moon phases on that watch are pretty much identical (and therefore as inaccurate) as the others.

The fact that it tracks the moon my moving slowly over the course of the month instead of "ticking" once a day is v sweet. But it still tracks along the TOP of the window left-to-right as opposed to the bottom. This is the opposite rotational orbit of the moon as the real moon orbits the Earth in a counter-clockwise rotation.

This would mean that watch makers would have to put the window on the bottom, rather than the top. However, doing so would not work with their current method of showing how much of the moon is lit up by the sun -- which is the very reason they choose the current (albeit imprecise) method.

I'm looking for a watch that not only shows the moon phase, but ALSO shows the proper rotational orbit of the moon around Earth. And for that watch to not be $75,000.

This seems to be the difficult part.

>>15400059
>"dress watches are thinner so they can go under a shirt's cuff"
>no they don't, look at all these divers and sport watches and people wearing sweaters
dude
DUDE

just passing by

>>15400457
Y tho

>>15399833
based

>>15400589
>Y tho

What are you asking, specifically? Why do I want a timepiece to be as accurate as possible instead of a half-assed approximation of real world events for convenience sake on something I'm spending thousands of dollars on?

>>15400511
>using military time
LARP
A
R
P

>>15400680
You can't actually be this retarded? There plenty of places in the world that don't use AM/PM and just use a 24h format. Holy fucking shit, the stupidity here never ceases to amaze me.

>>15400673
Yes

Does anyone have Christopher Ward coupons?

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>>15400239
>Is Joma Shop a good online store?
What do you mean by good? They are legit if that's what you mean.

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>>15400680
>military time
Thick cunt, most places in the world use 24 hour time.

is 38mm already too big for a wristlet?

>>15400680
>24h format
>military time
lmao what